i OHP 70kg for reps and people who just hopped in the gym and immediately do a test cycle, look better than me after 3 months of doing a shitty workout routine and not counting their macros. might aswell blast test at this point. pic unrelated. cya nattyhomos.
>>75721875Holy shit
>>75721875desu they're on much more than just testtest is very mildbut yeah
>>75721875That's one huge cock on that troon
So what are you taking? My Ecdysterone comes Friday and I'm excited. That's what I plan to take.
>>75721911Thats a dude
>>75721911>Ecdysterone the only gain that increases with this, is the wallet of the person you bought it from
>>75721875post source
>>75721930you're confusing it with COACH GREG'S TURK BUILDER
>>75721875I want to use her bum cheeks as a face mask if you know what I mean
>>75721875Weeks 1-6 Testosterone Cypionate- 500-600 mgs taken 250/300 mgs on Monday and Thursday Deca/EQ- 300 mgs taken 150 mgs on Monday/Thursday Anavar- 50 mgs per dayWeeks 7-10 Testosterone Cypionate- 1000-1200 mgs taken 500/600 mgs Monday and Thursday EQ- 600 mgs taken 300 Monday/Thursday14 days out To the above add 50 mgs Tren EOD 50 mgs DBOL per day
>>75722040>first cycle>1200mg test, tren, deca, eq, anvar, dbolnigger what?
>>7572187570kg OHP is very good (if you're not a fat fuck)
>>75721875Just do higher volume lol.See how full and firm he looks? That's because they did high volume in the 80s. In the video he's doing like 5x15.
yeah no shit, frauding is unbeatable for aesthetics if your goal is to be lean all year round. you can however beat them on strength, which is funny.those people will have to come off at some point and return to total DYEL rapidly because they never learned how to lift and eat btw
>>75721911Hahahahahahahaha hahahahaha You'd be better off taking an AI
>>75721875If you OHP 70 for reps you will have a very nice looking upper body, if you are <15% bf, so you are either lying or fat.
>>75722636>>7572226020%bf. Since when does bodyfat matter for OHP? Fat doesn't store in your shoulders.
>>75721875Have you thought about doing a bodybuilding routine rather than a strength routine? Your body will improve quicker but you will also age a lot faster
>>75722297Nigger, the guy in ur pic literally has a video talking about his steroid use in the past
>>75722643>Since when does bodyfat matter for OHP?the heavier you are, the more lenient the leverages in the lift become.a 70kg guy OHP'ing 70kg is not the same as a 100kg guy doing the same, they could have the exact same amount of muscle mass but the 70kg guy is fucked if the bar drifts in front at all while the 100kg guy has some leeway. it's simple physics.
>>75722643>20%bf.mass moves mass, especially on OHP. Even if you cut and lost 0 muscle you'd probably be down to 60-65kg on OHP at 10%
>>75721875Do more reps
>>75722651And you think modern actors are natty?
>>75722661Bas at lift
>>75722661No they aren't Natty but telling a natty to just increase volume isn't going to give him a roided body
>>75722681They're smaller than several nattys I've seen because they want to stay lean while gaining considerable strength asap>I'll take gains later tyvmThen your gains ceiling is lower, there is no argument for clean bulking by anyone who's tried it.
>>75722697>clean bulked correctlyHow much muscle you put on without lying about just resting better and less depleted carbs to.increase your lifts then what's the yearly progress?
>>75722681There is nothing to discuss if OP wants to do steroids. I really dont understand the point of this thread other than OP making a blog post
>>75721875Do ny modified military presses, its all about high frequency while bulking to put on muscle asap.Mp curl like a shrimp brace chest elbows in narrow grip, no torso tilting unless going heavy, incline or flat same thing to hit the deeper front delts and try heavier speed reps than super deep stretch.Btb is breaindead easy just jump it up and dont go lower than needed.Rear delts is anything just mmc for me but my shoulders can tolerate only rear delt flies. This is one where prison reps seem to be necessary to hit like chest because of other muscles taking over.
>>75722697I'm just gonna do a summary.You can get big and strong as a natty. You'll functionally be much stronger and less injury prone than most roiders in your local gym if you take it seriously and go at it for years. You'll have to learn how to train and eat correctly because there's no free gains after the initial 6-12 months. But you'll most likely be 15-20% bf and have completely different aesthetics/proportions than what social media has fed you.
>>75722716Ya know like who even really got strong that isn't lying I sleep like shit and it just looks like it's gonna take a while
>>75722724I look like a different person once I threw the basket case of what is trying to appeal to women while respecting myself down the stairsSure your way I can still have abs and shit but my way in a few years I'll be so massive I could flirt with women's gf while they're fucking them and get her to suck my dick.
>>75722762Then again I put size on my arms in jail for 2.5wks waiting for buttfuck County court proceedings with a blanket
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