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I know you'll tell me "genetics" but what exactly in genetics has an impact?

How can one explain that some make slow progress while doing things pretty well and others do not track anything and INFLATE in a few months?

How do you explain that for the same numbers in an exercise, some people are already musculat and others look DYEL?
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>>75722764
Genetics and lifestyle.
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>>75722776
But what exactly in genetics?
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>>75722764
Lifting technique 100% my arms grew on 30g protein in jail because it was my one good lift try learning technique before making some jon jones ass non progress
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>>75722764
>size
How much you can rep all it is steroids make you bigger ni matter what
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>>75722821
Yeah but o want to look like Steve from mine craft but as if he didn't lift and had 5000 testosterone
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>>75722817
So technique is very hard to grasp?
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>>75722804
more androgen receptors/receptor protein density. they just have more of the good stuff
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>>75722764
probably intensity
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>>75722764
Honestly it's mainly diet and and how hard and consistent you actually train, and I know that because I used to progress slow as shit but rapidly improved later on when I fixed this shit

Thing is, most people just eat whatever they want and then show up at the gym and half arse every single workout. I literally know people who have done the exact same 3 sets of 10 with 1pl8 on bench for the past 2 years, just because they can and it's easy. Didn't even try and add more weight or do another set, more reps or anything

My progress used to be slow and shit too, I trained somewhat hard but tried cutting a lot of corners. I used to skip a bunch of sets just so I could leave the gym earlier and go home to play cod. Took un needed rest days just because I didn't feel like going. After 3 years of that I could only bench 90kg. In the space of a year from that I went to benching 120kg once I actually got locked in, trained hard and consistent, started eating real food as opposed to microwave shit for every meal. Didn't even get proper chicken before, always bought the frozen breaded shit. You don't realise what a difference diet makes until you actually make your diet good. You can only get so far when trying to cut corners like that, eating whatever you want and been lazy with training. if your workout wasn't hard and you weren't struggling, then you half arsed it
You can't just cope and say you have poor genetics when you don't even train that hard and more than 40% of your diet is junk food
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>>75723253
>literally know people who have done the exact same 3 sets of 10 with 1pl8 on bench for the past 2 years
Seriously though, how the fuck did you even pass this? It's literally me, if I add any more weight I can't lift it right and feel like I'll get injured, and if I do anymore sets it just feels like my shoulders are burning and not my chest. I'm not trying to be stuck here and I'm not halfassing workouts, seriously how do I progress?
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>>75723253
What if someone tracks what they eat (calories and protein intake), their progress at gym (they try to do better than their last session) but still struggle to make progress? I'm not saying they stagnate, but they gain every little after each session (sometimes nothing) and they still look DYEL after several years of gym although they made progress compared to their starting point.

That's actually the whole point I think: SPEED of PROGRESS, not actual existence of progress. I'm not arguing about progress vs. non progress, I'm talking about slow progress vs. fast progress. Do people who make progress fast do everything perfectly? I'm not sure
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>>75722764
This is not an easy answer, its a combination of dozens of interactions between hormones, genes, EXPRESSED genes, activity level in childhood, diet as a toddler.
Each factor influences the next factor so if you are lucky to have the building block ie (good skeleton genes with stature and correct testosterone exposure in your moms belly) it will cascade from there, you already have a very good chance to be muscular with less effort. The opposite is also true, generally if you start with bad skeleton genes you probably will end up having a fragile build in the end.
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>>75722764
Because they started from a more athletic baseline.
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>>75723944
What does it have to do with bone structure and strength? I make slow progress but I've never been injured so far, even if I go to failure
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>>75722764
There's various factors since I think newbie gains are absolutely real, but I think the real thing is you're referring to probably just related to training intensity and volume (pretty much consistency). Most people can gain quickly through maintaining caloric surplus and just training at your limit every single week. You compound that over a few months, and that will blow you up over someone that doesn't go as hard, does the same exercises, and eat at maintenance or doesn't eat enough.

But seriously, just lift heavy and do progressive overload. Get in the gym at least 3 days out of the week and attempt full body workouts or Push/Pull/Legs. Every single person that is strict to those principles will get bigger than they previously were.

Now if we're talking 1-1 same principles and people are just way different, that's genetics, muscle density, and water weight. I'll give you an example in biceps. Biceps have short/long heads and if you don't gain good short head mass, your biceps will always look smaller. 6 months of someone with great bicep bellies (short heads that grow well genetically), vs someone who has good muscle hypertrophy over all (will look bigger in the long run), will see faster gains purely based off hereditary predisposition. Water weight and how much water you carry can also make the difference, as your muscles have the ability to carry more water if you're eating more weight or taking creatine. That will give you a larger overall appearance, and will give you a bigger pump than people who are not meat eaters or do not have creatine.

Hopefully this helps.
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>>75724544
It has everything to do with it, some would argue that your strength potential is mostly associated with your bone structure.



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