>CICO has been debunked>carnivore is a meme>keto has been debunked>veganism is malnutritionhow the fuck am I meant to lose weight then?
>>75726600Nice capitalization retard. Your mother should've aborted you.
>>75726600embrace paleo
>>75726600CICO isn't debunked. It's literally just a rephrasing of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. It's one of the most sound and long-standing scientific principles. The part that got debunked is your fat ass not adhering to it and taking too many calories in and not burning enough of them off.
>>75726660Cico doesn’t take into account hormones or metabolism thoughbeit
The one and only thing that matters is insulin aka the fat storage hormoneIf you keep it low by not eating carbs or excessive protein you can get shredded on unlimited caloriesIt's literally all that matters for fat loss or fat gainOn one day you could eat one 3500 calorie low carb meal for that day and lose fat, then the next day snack on 1000 cal of carbs which keeps your insulin high and gain more weight than before you started the whole two days.
>>75726600Basically the reason you are fat is god hates you, if you cut calories you will just lose some bodily functions so you can still put on fat. The only way to lose weight is to trick god into thinking that’s the best way to kill you by getting stranded and lost in the wilderness. You might die but that’s just the risk you have to take, once you need calories for survival the fat will melt away uselessly so that you can die faster, hopefully somebody will mess up gods plan for you and you will survive and get skinny.
>>75726670Yes it does. Those are part of the calories out calculus.
>>75726670>total energy expenditure is the summed result of all biological processes>B-But CICO doesn't account for biological processesRetard alert.
>>75726600P-smf + liftingThere's no guess work here it's either pouring off and visible by the day or you're cheating.
>noo you don’t understand. My body defies laws of reality because I have lower metabolismI’m so sick of you fucking idiots. Anything going on in your body is part of the calories out part of the equation. If your body burns 1000 calories a day where someone else burns 3000 just means you account for it you MONG JESUS CHRIST HOW HARD IS IT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK?
>>75726660It's a correct theory that isn't applicable to the real life due to hundreds of reasons.Yes, yiu can lose weight eating pure sugar, but your life will be a pure suffering and constant food cravings. Not manageable long term.
>>75726710Everyone agrees it's works. You are too retarded to understand that.What else you are too retarded to understand is that eating low in nutrient goyslop and managing calories isn't sustainable in a long term. While if you are eating high in micronutriens high quality food, counting calories is pointless as your body won't demand more food than needed. All in all, cico is absolitely useless.
>>75727211>While if you are eating high in micronutriens high quality food, counting calories is pointless as your body won't demand more food than needed.That's just eating at maintenance. Which is again CICO.
>>75726600>waaah waaah nothing worksokay then give up lol
>>75726600>last July, calculated TDEE>started eating 500 calories under>lost weight>average 1.8 lbs / week over 6 monthsDon't overthink it, just do the steps
>>75726670It does and you're a dumb faggot and anyone who believes you is retarded and most likely not White. Every stupid thing I read on this board, I imagine it comes from a non White and it makes a lot more sense.
>CICO / thermodynamics have been debunkeduhhh no? im a fast fag and never count calories but yoh’re retarded. all meme diets “work” at the start because ultimately they’re a calorie reduction. fuck off!>b buh buh buh this one straw man got fatjust eat less and skew your macros to protein jesus fucking christ it’s not hard
weird how people on steroids can eat more calories and yet lose more fat than natty people who eat less, i thought it was all cico!
>>75727211>another retard obfuscating satiety with cico
>>75726600CICO works perfectly. The issue is normies don't have braincells to understand the output part of equation.
>>75726674Literally the opposite. You can eat 2000Kcal surplus by consuming only starch and protein and gain only marginal amount of fat due to the inefficiency de novo lipogenesis but if you eat excess of calories from a balanced diet with lots of fat in it you gain same amount of fat from +200kcal The body is extremely inefficient in storing pure glycogen in the case of excess energy. The issue is people on calorie surplus usually have also fat and fructose intake, which in case of glucose saturation stores much more efficiently than glucose. Insulin turns off fat oxidation but it does not turn carbohydrates into fat. If you eat fat and fructose that body stores as fat while having your insulin spiked is when you store fat. Simple as.
>>75727566Is the steroid user gaining or losing lean mass and weight in your little scenario?
>>75727211I can tell a fat American riddled with corn syrup wrote this, only you retards think not eating goyslop is anything praiseworthy to begin with, everyone else just considers it being normal to not eat that shit unless you live in a slum. >inb4 I meant something else with lo9w in nutrient goyslopyeah I'm sure you did seppo
>>75727695gee, take a wild guess einstein!
>>75727223It's not eating at maitenance because if you increase co, your body will increase hunger. We have a body that self regulates calory intake without any need to count calories like a retard. Have you ever seen a fat animal in the wild in the summer when the food ia plenty? No, if you are healthy and have normal d3 levels, your body won't be storing extra fat for the winter.
>>75727845If you don't eat goyslop and go out to touch some grass under the sun, you don't need to count calories. You will always be lean.
>>75728166That's not how it works, fatburger. Normal food is more healthy but that doesn't mean it doesn't have calories. How stupid are you that you can't understand basic thermodynamics? You can be fat eating only quality beef if you eat enough of it.
