>>75726897
Nah, I'm pomegranate juicing with ALCAR and ethanol.

Ever since I started drinking 1L of OJ a day my energy and mood skyrocketed.

I don't drink juice I'm not a retard I eat the fresh fruits with the peels or I blend them
Just cos this guy wrote something doesn't make it right, you gotta be wise my niggas

>>75726947
That said, he's on to something
I've been eating hella carbs and gaining no weight Not losing, but not gaining neitha

>>75726953
The only time I gained weight was when I had stuff with, believe it or not, unhealthy vegetable oils when I had a two week period after an operation where I was weakened, and the global AI security robots targeted me to weaken me more, to kill me, ,so I had order bad food
after that, consuming hella cals and carbs, no weight gain
As soon as my morale improves and I find my direction in life, I'm going to get jacked and do steroids and find a wife and she will love me so much and we will have a nice life and be homebodies

>>75726897
I started eating more sugar, drinking OJ, coffee with honey, etc. I've gotten leaner and my energy levels are great.

>>75726947
>with the peels

really?

>>75726897
fructose and salt is bad. reasin why people with average salt consumption live longest is due to them not being morbid heartlets that restrict salt because soc toldbthem tobdo so and due to higher iodine intake.

>>75726897
This retard lost teeth because of eating too much sugar or some shit like that, not smart. This is why he smiles like that (closed mouth).

>>75729045
>or some shit like that
He was supplementing wheat germ as an experiment for a cost-effective source of B vitamins. He objectively lost teeth because he was broke and it drove him to self-experiment recklessly, which, has and always will be the mark of a true genius.

Why?

>>75726897
Actually we've all moved on to the vernonica diet.

>>75729045
Dedicated researcher o7

>>75726897
as 5 peat fans what his ideal diet is and you'll get 6 different answers
ultimately a waste of a career

>>75726897
The absolute state of Anthony Cumia

>>75730416
> ultimately a waste of a career
Not really. I think the concepts of “too much PUFA bad” and “glycine/gelatin/collagen good” wouldn’t be where they are today without him
Dunno if he ever really set out to make an ideal diet. Those always end up outdated anyway. Core concepts are more important

>>75726937
Based

>>75728078
Maybe peating works, I need to research moar. Any risk of getting diabetus?

i'm gonna explain the "peat" idiocy for people who are in danger of falling prey to his amateur psyop; OK here goes:
>carrots are good for you

>>75730416
not true at all, you're probably too retarded to understand basic ideas and think if people don't use eachothers' exact words they are different in theory.

>>75731697
YOU FORGOT THE SPECIAL CARROT SALAD RECIPE

>>75731697
you need to make a salad with salt and coconut oil

I'm always surprised that Peat isn't more popular on /fit/. It's actually the reason I don't really come here. Normally the cutting ideas are popular pretty early on 4chan - i.e. white nationalism was popular on /pol/ before anywhere else, crypto had always been big on /g/ and /biz/, etc. But I had to go elsewhere to learn about Peating.

>>75734295
*cutting edge

>>75731357
Nobody would know anything about PUFAs or seed oils without him. The Weston A Price and paleo crowds knew about seed oils but they had no idea about the mechanisms that made them bad, which led them to erroneous conclusions like advocating cod oil, fatty fish, pork, nuts, etc. Also to this day nobody else really understands how good sugar is for you and normies go absolutely apeshit with rage when you tell them that.

>>75734320
Also his knowledge of hormones put him above virtually everyone else as well. Normies still think that testosterone causes violence and aggression instead of estrogen, or think that estrogen is the female hormone and that women should take estrogen pills. It's kind of crazy how one biologist can be so far ahead of literally everybody else, it actually makes me question a lot of things about scientific knowledge in other fields and whether the well established theories aren't all just bullshit that one high IQ person could easily refute

>>75726937
And weight too

>>75729350
>He was supplementing wheat germ as an experiment for a cost-effective source of B vitamins.
So he lost teeth because it was turning into a paste in his mouth or what?

>>75734424
What kind of retard only eats wheat germ? Maybe it was all the phytic acid demineralizing his teeth. I remember the Weston A Price studies where he cured caries in patients via vitamin K2 MK4 (activator X), so Ray was also probably deficient in that (also in calcium). Anyway pretty retarded from him to consume grains up to the point of losing teeth. The peater community is obsessed with taking pills and hormones. They are mostly mentally ill drug addicts. Some of their points (like not all sugar being bad) are correct, but taking cola is retarded for example.

>>75734465
>the sugar in cola is different from the sugar in fruit and honey because...because it just is okay!!! REEEEE

>>75734465
>"taking" coca cola
ESL retard please recuse yourself. He was taking wheat germ for B vitamin supplementation and developed some systemic infection which rotted his teeth. Do you niggers realize just how unhealthy peat was? He had a full-body fluoroscope at the age of 5. Spent his whole life managing debilitating conditions. Everything he did was in a sense desperate, because he lived his life in a desperate state, always playing catch-up to damage doctors did to him as a child.

>>75734465
Some people's health is so compromised they have to try desperate experiments. If you've never been in that state it doesn't make you smarter than them, but making fun of people who are trying to fix themselves does kinda make you a faggy little bitch desu

>>75734489
technically it is
sucrose in cola, fructose in fruit and honey

y'all dum

>>75734534
what is sucrose made of genius?

I was peating from 2020 to 2023 but I realized that is not good for lifting and longevity so I stopped. I drink some OJ from time to time tho

>>75734553
glucose and fructose
that's why I said "technically"

>>75734489
Correct. Refined sugar is bad. Sugar in honey with all the enzymes is good, but it has to be unheated honey otherwise it's trash.

>>75726897
>longevity "expert"
>doesn't even make triple digits

>>75734562
>lifting
Yeah, really anything that lowers estrogen will kill "gainz" in the sense of being able to exert x amount of resistance for y given muscle
>longevity
Pants on head retarded. I get the aversion to peating from people who NEED to perform, like athletes and so on -- it's obviously in your interest to not completely nuke the same hormones in your body that help you exert maximum effort.
>but
Strength and resiliency are two completely different biological concepts. Peating objectively makes you more childlike, or neotenous, or low stress. In this condition your body is best able to manage and adapt to stressors. It's really just bodybuilders, powershitters who don't get this; even weightlifters do: you're not supposed to always be competiton-ready, and it's dumb to try and be. But for the average ego-lifter, the moment number stops going up, or god forbid even starts going down, you pull all stops to keep it going up. Cue norwooding.

>>75734617
>bodybuilder
>doesn't even look good

>>75734503
I'm not making fun of good old Ray. I'm just pointing out to the newfags why he always smiled with his mouth closed. Also, only a retard thinks that supplements are needed instead of eating natural food like all animals on this planet. Peaters are in a way just like vegans because of all the pills they take.

>>75734623
Food is undoubtebly worse today than it was even 50 years ago. Aside from the pollution, micronutrients just don't exist in the same quantities as they used to
https://www.reddit.com/r/nutrition/comments/uis73l/a_study_on_nutrients_in_food_concluded_that_we/

>>75734629
It's ok, I understand. You fell for the supplement meme, that was me not so long ago. Someday you will see the light.

>>75734629
>dude just farm your own food! lol!
>just start your own village
>just form your own government
>just make your own internet
>just genesis your own herrenvolk!

>>75734635
I take aspirin, fursultiamine, and magnesium. Is that a meme?

>>75734629
Also pretty funny post you linked. Oranges don't have any vitamin A. Just eat dairy if you want vitamin A lol. Or a tiny bit of liver. It's not hard.

>>75734637
Aspirin yes, that's literally poison.
As for the second one idk what that is.
Magnesium is fine, but any mineral you take in large doses will fuck up the status of other minerals, it's impossible to balance them out with supplements, research the mineral wheel. Natural food is the only solution.

>>75734608
How do the "enzymes" make the honey (which is 80% sugar) different from "refined sugar"?

>>75734619
This probably answers my earlier question of why peating isn't popular on /fit/. Maximizing metabolic health means you would probably avoid serious weightlifting.

>>75734669
Dead food vs live food. See Aajonus. He was a schizo but right in some of his points. Peat was also right in some of his points, of course. Also, refined sugar in liquid form fucks up with your satiety and reward systems, read "The Hungry Brain" from stephan guyenet.

>>75734623
>getting a vitamin in a 100mg capsule instead of eating 2 pounds of meat or veggies for it is le bad because...because it just is okay!!!
>getting 10000 IU of D3 in an instant from a supplement instead of spending 2 hours in the sun daily is le bad because...because it just is!!!

>>75734637
wtf is aspirin good for?

>>75734608
what makes heated honey bad?

>>75734665
Confirmed midwit

>>75734693
Honey is not alive nigga. Enzymes are not living things. Honey actually kills bacteria i.e. is antibiotic rather than probiotic so calling it living food is pretty ridiculous. Besides I wanted to hear the argument not just get referred to Aajonus

>>75734402
After the covid jab I started questioning everything to be honest.

>>75734629
Yeah the food soil is much worse.

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>>75734665
>aspirin
>poison
Uh-huh

>>75734716
Yeah honey is a great antibiotic, I use it with some cinnamon on acne and it clears after a few days. Also good on wounds apparently.

>>75734696
Because most nutrients in supplements are not the real deal, they are usually not the same molecules, for example vitamin D supplements only provide one form of vitamin D but there are actually dozens. This causes problems in the body which I don't have time to explain here. Also all nutrients in the food matrix (real food) exist in balance, and taking any one of them in large doses via supplements will always create inbalances in other nutrients. See the amount of ignorant plp taking vitamin D without vitamin K2. Not good. See the amount of plp eating vitamin A in insane amounts without any D. Now, do you think we humans are already aware of ALL the important nutrients that exist? Do you think that we already know what is the perfect ratio between all of these? No, we have no idea. We are so ignorant about nutrition it's unreal. There are actually zero (0) long term properly controlled clinical trials on nutrition. Anything but eating natural food is playing russian roulette with your body. I say this as a former supplement-head.

>>75734728
What makes aspirin so good? I have asthma so I don't think I can take it.

>>75734728
Chemo is used to treat cancer too.

>>75734733
Where can you source vitamin K2 naturally?

>>75734742
K2 MK4 is the type of K2 you want. It's in animal fat from animals that have eaten grass. Which includes dairy.

>>75729045
You know that sugar doesn't break down your teeth right? It's bacteria that eat the sugar that lingers in your teeth if you don't wash it off.

If sugar is destroying your teeth it's more because you don't have proper oral health care than the sugar. In fact, there's a particular sugar called xylitol that literally kills the bacteria.

>>75734699
It's pretty good for causing stomach ulcers. Pill pushers will defend it though because they've been brainwashed into thinking they need pills to be healthy.

>>75734755
what about K2 MK7?

>>75734778
Vegan meme, much like when they insist that beta carotene is vitamin A which it isn't. MK7 does not work on the same receptors. Go to wholehealthsource.com and read all posts there on vitamin K2 and malocclusion.

>>75734733
D3 from lanolin is literally the same molecule your skin produces from the sun. Also being in the sun doesn't produce K2.

If someone was dying of beriberi and a doctor was giving them thiamine would you say "nooooo you have to make him eat a pork tenderloin everyday"? Sometimes you have to do the best with what you have. I used to be a natural-tard too but I realized I was being refuctionist and stubborn instead if practical. There was no way I was going to be getting 400mg of magnesium or multiple
grams of glycine a day without either supplementing or dedicating all of my time to buying, preparing and eating food.

>>75734755
Thanks

>>75734771
Ok, for stomach ulcers just drink Kefir to prevent it?

>>75734770
>xylitol
Isn't that is chewing gum?

>>75734789
If you don't have the time or money to eat or prepare natural food, I get it. But it's not ideal. Let's not pretend it is.
>If someone was dying of beriberi and a doctor was giving them thiamine would you say "nooooo you have to make him eat a pork tenderloin everyday"? Sometimes you have to do the best with what you have.
No one would have beriberi outside of extreme povery circunstances or alcoholics, not if you eat natural food according to taste. Just eat pork if you want B1. Now I get the point of supplemental B1 for example in a medical settting if the patient is going to die otherwise, like from encephalopathy.
>multiple grams of glycine
Kek I used to take glycine supplements too. It's pretty easy to get from real food. Again, I get that you don't have the time.

>>75734807
It's added to a bunch of brands, but xylitol itself is a form of sugar like glucose, fructose, aspartame, dextrose, etc.

There's a few toothpaste brands that are starting to bring out xylitol toothpastes or some brands add a bit of it to their regular products. There's also some mint brands that add it to their mints but it's better to chew on "toothpaste mints" that partially function like toothpaste than on things like Smint of mentos, even if they do have xylitol in them.

>>75734830
Very interesting, thanks anon

>>75734820
>If you don't have the time or money to eat or prepare natural food, I get it. But it's not ideal. Let's not pretend it is.

It can be more optimal depending on the circumstances. Not sure why we have to be so dedicated to the naturalistic fallacy. It can even be better in some cases. I.e. magnesium is high in nuts which are also high in PUFAs and anti-nutrients. You can avoid the negative elements with a supplement. Same with vitamin E which is always found with pufa in nature.

>Kek I used to take glycine supplements too. It's pretty easy to get from real food.

This is not true. You need 10g of glycine per day which is equivalent to four cups of bone broth. The only practical way to do that is from supplements. You also need to have a glycine to methionine ratio of 4:1 which once again only occurs in nature in scallops, a few cuts of meat and bone broth.

>>75730416
That's because Peat never set out to prescribe an ideal diet

>>75734402
>Also his knowledge of hormones put him above virtually everyone else as well.
good point
he really was the sole voice on so many things that were controversial in the 90's but aren't today