>>75728533
Shut the fuck up pussy, stop making excuses for your fucking weakness.

I work full time as a gardener and still train hard as fuck five days a week.
Stop being a weak faggot.

>>75728533
Why don't you have a home gym? And why aren't you working out in the morning? Its obvious you don't have time after work, especially if you have a family. But if you don't have a gf/wife and/or kids, then you literally have all the time in the world even if you worked 10-12 hours that day.

>>75728583
What does working as a gardener pay? And what exactly do you do day to day? I'm curious. I'm not making fun of you, by the way. It seems like a very interesting and creative job.

>>75728578
>>75728595
Yeah when you have no friends. No actual responsibilities. You can gymcel too for 3 hours after work everyday

Easy?

>>75728603
Who said anything about any of those, again making excuses.

>>75728533
Working is your life goyim.

>>75728603
I'd rather lift all day and yes I'd be bigger

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I used to work 12 - 8 pm
I lifted at 8 am.
You just have to adjust your workout schedule.

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>>75728603
>3 hours
Please just leave this board.
Really, get out.
Don't come back.

>>75728628
Going to the gym is minimum a 2 hour investment of your day

15 minutes getting to the gym
15 minutes driving home
15 minutes of showering after the gym

1 hour and 15 minites minimum at the gym if you don’t want a subpar workout

>>75728597
Varies alot, day to day. Some days, especially in summer, can be pretty chill. As I'm the head gardener for a boutique hotel.
But just to reel off some stuff; landscaping, composting, watering, pruning, designing gardens, tending for the nursery and general maintenance of the social and outdoor areas of the hotel.
Pay isn't anything to brag about, but I also live in a Mediterranean country so all jobs pay like shit.
But, I have a lot of perks, such as accommodation provided by bosses, start early and finish early in summer time. Meaning lots of free time. Great work environment and have free reign of the things I grow. Including fruit and vegetables.

>>75728653
Sounds really cool. Cheers, bro. Thanks for beautifying the world.

>>75728643
>15 minutes getting to the gym
Home gym master race, once again.
Or just find a gym closer to home or work.
>15 minutes of showering after the gym
More like 15 minutes of sucking cock.

You're just really bad at managing time slowpoke.

>>75728533
wake up before work and do a set of pullups/pushups to failure daily, takes 5min, that ez. or just hit the gym on weekends. trust me you'll get 90% of the gains that way.

>>75728603
>Yeah when you have no friends. No actual responsibilities.
>24/7 im doing something important
>4chan is one of htose things

>>75728603
I bet you even your boss spends at least 30 minutes doing cardio every day.

>>75728603
I literally said in my post to workout before the day starts you moron. You seriously can't wake up an hour earlier to do a workout?

>>75728533
When I was a soldier (nurse) and working 70hr weeks I made time. It's mostly down to logistics. How far is the gym, what kind of chores are you needing to do at home (I had a 1BR apartment ezpz), what's your routine, etc. I meal prepped, ate breakfast in my car (cold sausage and bread), and the gym was 5 minutes from work.

If you're married and have kids honestly yeah you're kinda fucked. I have no idea how people do that shit.

>>75728656
My pleasure. Thanks for enjoying said beauty.
I would definitely advise getting into it. It's hard work, but extremely rewarding in so many ways it's insane.
It's also a very deep rabbit hole. Gardening is extremely varied. And there is a large difference between an actual gardener and some guy with a strimmer who comes to tidy your place up.
Not to discredit those bros though.

To me gardening is about creating an environment which consciously and subconsciously affects those that enter within it. That and making it a usable, living space which constantly changes and benefits the house/hotel/whatever.
Like I said, massive rabbit hole. Dive on in and have a look for yourself.

>>75728533 (Masonic antichrist dubs)
If you can't get up three and a half hours before your wagie shift to get a workout in, especially if you only work 8 hours a day at a physically undemanding job, you're a lazy faggot.

>>75729021
OP was never going to workout. He just wanted an excuse to justify himself

>>75729021
>JUST GO TO BED AT 8PM BRO!

You faggots are seriously retarded as fuck

>>75728533
You forgot to tell us the part where you play video games for 6 hours in a row to "wind down" from work and "relax" lmao. Just go to the gym pussy, I've never met anyone who couldn't spare 3hrs a week to lift if they actually wanted to.

>>75729054
You have mommy and daddy making all your meals

You don’t have friendships and relationships to maintain

You don’t have to commute to your part time McDonald’s shift

Kys. bro just sleep 4 hours a day ! You’ll have more time!

>>75729051
I go to bed at 10pm for six and a half hours of sleep. Regardless, you must be a fucking manchild if you baulk at the idea of having a set bedtime during the week. Did your parents not instil into you the value of a good night's sleep? Were they neglectful retards who let you stay up all night playing vidya until you put yourself to bed?

>>75728533
you can't find time for 2x FB a week?
you pussy bitch

>>75728597
>What does working as a gardener pay?
Money
>And what exactly do you do day to day?
Gardening

>>75729141
Thank you for your contribution.

>>75729063
Looks like I hit a nerve. Must mean I'm right.

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>>75729135
>bro everyone should live like a miserable worker ant NPC like me!

>>75728533
I work a 7-5 factory job carrying thread reels on my arms the whole day. When I started hitting the gym I just knew I would not be able to go everyday so I settled for 4 times a week. I could that just fine for years. Now I can barely go 3 times a week. If the people in here aren't lying when they say they can work the whole day still do a heavy workout almost everyday, then I am 100% sure they just have better genes. If I pushed myself to work out more than I do I know I'd end up in the hospital.

>>75729153
>working out should be during my fun time!
i dont understand OP. you say you have no time but you refuse to create a schedule for it. its almost like you are finding every excuse to not workout.

>>75729171
Not everyone does a factor job anon lol. A lot of people work in an office that sometimes also has its own complete gym that literally nobody uses.

>wfh 50 hours a week
>part time art gig for ~10-20 hours per week
>work out ~7 hours per week
>sleep 7 hours per night
42 hours left in the week, bro

>>75728643
If you'd started lifting in your teens you would have made the majority of your gains by your mid 20s and now you just go to maintain. And you can get it done in 45 mins.
Also, go on the way to or from work to cut down on the travel time.

>>75728533
I work 8-5 mon-fri and I live 4-5x a week. Skill issue.

>>75729186
Single, no kids

>>75728533
How much time does she spend on social media and watching netflix?

>>75728533
Everyone works a 9-5

what manner of retardation is this thread?

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>>75728643
>margin of error: 50%
NTA, but kys fag

>>75728533
i work 11 hour shifts and still get the time to lift. However, i don't live in a city and work is 6.5 mins from my house and the gym about 9.5 mins.

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>>75728533
I was fully onboard with the haters in this thread not long ago, but now I gotta agree with OP. At some point, if you have more than one interest, you'll want to dedicate a solid, continuous amount of time to them to achieve a certain level of proficiency. The "just do it 20 minutes a day" crowd has no fucking clue man, you don't "just 20 minutes" into anything you care about, you want to go deep, flow state is one of the best things in life. We can complain and bitch and moan and cope but at the end of the day we need uninterrupted time to do things well, and time is precisely what the system takes from us. So yeah, choices must be made.

>>75728533
>who work night shifts in some dead end security job
>>75728533
a full-time job, is a full time job
fucking retard

>>75728533
>time
i had a mate who straight up genuinely had 'watch TV' for a couple of as a compulsory activity in his day. Must happen and he would complain that he 'had no time' if he could not complete this activity. So when I hear about people 'having no time' I am instantly sceptical about the types of activities they apparently have no time for, their priorities in life and their time management in general.

>>75728533
Im on salary working full time, 4-5 hours per day, 4 days per week. Lower your tone qhen you're talking to me.

>>75728533
What about it? Why is this blog a thread?

>>75729349
People have so many excuses
>oh I eat out because I don't have time to cook
>but if they do have time they don't cook, they waste away

I too have many excuses
>oh I have no time to play videogames
>but alas, I got home this evening and shitposted for 3 hours in a single breath

>>75729319
how many hours do you spend on 4chan and video games?

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>>75729349
My friend who never has time always has like 60 hours played in the last two weeks on his Steam page

>>75728533
I work 30h per week. It's that simple.

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i lifted the morning of a 13 hour pizza hut shift lol
>pizza hut
i didnt graduate high school yeeeet

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>>75728533
I work 40 hours a week. I get up at 5:50, out of the by 6:20, work from 6:45 to 2:45 (office job with "flexi-hours") and then go to the gym from ~3 to 4/4:15. My sessions are almost entirely supersets to save time. If I worked 9 to 5, I'd still get up before 6 so I can gym and shower before work. Cooking takes the longest time out of the day, with cooking and eating being just over an hour. Still have time for my girlfriend and to play on my PC with friends, and to read and write.

Time management is an effective skill that (unsurprisingly) NEETS and former NEETS do not have. You need to focus on priorities and then allocate time for the rest. It'll get easier over time, but only IF you put in the effort. Otherwise you'll remain miserable at your own hand.

I'm by no means huge and jacket or cut and trim, but I lift decently heavy and I'm proud of my progress. Pic rel is from October or September.

>>75728533
>Lifting with a full time job is not as easy as this board makes it seem.
It is, actually. It's just that sometimes you have to accept the fact that you don't have the time to spend like 5 hours in the gym and there will be days you can only squeeze in 30 minutes. Then you eventually figure out that if you can cut out the time it takes to drive to the gym, shower after the workout, and then drive back, then you may as well buy some equipment you can use at home so you can cut out all the time wasted traveling to and from the gym. Yes, you might not get as good of a workout but you will at least be making some gains over the span of a longer time period.

>>75729051
If you’re not sleepmaxing and hydrationmaxing lifting is not for you

>>75728533
8 hours of work.
8 hours of sleep.
8 hours of free time <<insert gym here.

>>75728533
I have a job, a wife and a baby. Get off of 4chan and do your workout.

>>75729480
>I'm not huge
>See picrel

Fuck off

idk i work 10-6

>>75729669
You people clearly don't have a job. These 8 hours "free" aren't free in any way. In there goes cooking, cleaning, doing errands... I wish life was that simple

>>75728533
>work night shifts in some dead end security job
man i wish

>>75728533
You're just a pussy, i wake up at 6 to be able to get to my 9-5 and i still lift hard as fuck 6x a week

>>75729778
this, lifting takes like maybe an hour/hour and a half out of your day. i invested in a home gym and just binge anime while i lift personally

>>75728643
Learn time management nigger. You were going to be showering anyway and if you’re smart you’ll wrap your gym into your commute to or from work.

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>Why do you need time to do things bro?
>Why spend hours cooking and eating lunch/dinner? Just eat some fast slop so you have more time
>Why do you need half an hour to take a shower? Are you a faggot? Do it in 5 minutes. No slacking dude

I don't. Want. To live. In a hurry.

>>75728533
it's pretty easy you've just gotta want it
it's crunch time at my job and I've been working 10hr days minimum and I've still been fitting in workouts at around my usual schedule (albeit a little fucked up and shuffled around for time constraints)
this post was actually good motivation because I was thinking about skipping today but now I'm gonna go do a few sets just to spite you

>>75728533
all you need is 45 min to hour. If your doing bodybuilder stuff and not barbell you are wasting your time anyways.

>>75728533
I lift with a full time job and a part time job and I still have time to do literally everything else I want.

Nigger i work for the railroad and work a part time job on the weekends and I still go to the gym damn near every day. I work 12 hours a day and I keep a gym membership near the one depot I tie up at and another one near my house. Youre either lazy, indian or chinese or a combination of all of the above. Either way die in a fire and also all fields

>>75730067
Imagine believing this

>>75730067
*judas priest plays in the background*

>>75729832
that post was a lie btw
i'm a neet, i dont know why i posted that

>>75730206
based

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>>75728533
The trick is that you're not supposed to be losing 2-5 hours a day commuting. If find yourself working in a city that you don't actually live in so that you can afford to live wherever you actually live, your society is cooked.

>>75729338
Correct. You're supposed to choose your health and well-being over your boss's bottom line the second you figure out how to make that a possibility without ending up homeless.

>>75728533
>full time job +workout is suffering

What a pathetic
I do workout every days in condition that full time blue color job +average about 45hours added working
And I practice drawing hentai and reading books on top of that
How to do it?


Emulate the madness of donquihote and overdose stoicism pills
You are not weakling like other
We are warrior destined to die while we are fighting against something
Faggots don’t have to suffering
We have to suffer as possible cuz we are strong enough to endure that

hijacking this thread since OP is a fag

What is a solid streamlined workout routine? I've been cooking one up that fits into my desired timeframe as long as I don't half ass it.
Bench is currently my worst lift by a decent margin so they're lower than most other things, and being a fatass for 14 years means my legs are already reasonably strong so I'm not that concerned about leg lifts in the grand scheme but I still have some in there. Dips are assisted because I'm a fat fuck but I'm getting stronger because the first time I needed the whole 95lb assist, now I only need 80lb assist. Only been drafting for 2 days and I have no idea what I'm doing aside from having all my leg day shit together so any feedback would be great.

Day 1
>ohp 3x8
>incline dumbbell press 3x5~8
>ring rows 3x12
>dips 3x8~12
>tricep pull downs 3x8~12
>Arnold press 3x8

Day 2
>deadlifts 3x8
>lat pulldowns 3x8~12
>ez bar curls 3x12
>bench press 3x8
>hammer curls 3x12
>lat raises 3x8~12

Day 3
>barbell squat 3x8
>leg press 3x12
>seated leg curls 3x12
>seated leg raises 3x12
>leg press calf raises 3x12
>t-bar row 3x8~12

pls rate and give feedback. Anything I should add or cut out? Anything I should replace for something better? I'm considering changing it to a low weight high rep approach but for now I'm going to try to go heavy and see how I like it. I think as time goes on I will try to move a lot of things into dumbbell workouts so I can do some of them at home and minimize my time away. Right now I have some 10lb ones but I'd be willing to pay for some 35's. I want massive shoulders.

>>75728643
15 minutes of showering, really? Are you caked in mud and grime?

>>75728643
>1 hour and 15 minites minimum at the gym if you don’t want a subpar workout
If you're not totally exhausted at the hour mark, you aren't pushing yourself hard enough.

>>75728533
>bums who work night shifts in some dead end security job
So full time jobs
Imagine looking down on other wagies when you're a loser who can't afford a home gym and probably live in an apartment.

>>75728533
Dude, this is why people do splits. 30mins to an hour a day is more than enough time to hit a muscle group. Manage your time better retard.

>>75729153
>can't find joy in working out
Heres why you're a weak little faggot that will never make it. Mind set is fucked. You'll just keep finding bitch ass excuses.

The same people who say they don't have time for the gym spend binge watching Netflix every evening.

>>75730067
based lol i operate a ballast regulator for the rail. i get a gym memberhsip for basically every gym in the state through work and just train full body 3x a week with max intensity, some running and cardio stuff on off days if i feel like it. legit full body 3x a week is the answer just be rpepared to train hard. making good size and strength gains.

>>75728533
Just do full body once per week. You can thank me later.

>>75728533
I get up at 6 am, work by 7. Work 10 hours landscaping, off by 5. Pick up gymbro at 9, we hit it hard n heavy for about an hour. Get him home and I'm in bed by 11 for 7 hours of sleep. Simple as.

>>75729284
>I live 4-5x a week
based deathmaxxer

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I'm a medical student
I have no life, no friends, and get no pussy but I do make time to lift
>>75728643
My gym is like 5 minutes away. Stop fapping in the shower and taking 5 minute rests

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>>75728643
>1 hour and 15 minites minimum at the gym
what the fuck am i reading

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>>75728533
Get a home gym. Lift sets while you're multi tasking like cleaning, cooking, or shitposting. That's it.

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>>75728533
>Monday: arms (at home with dumbbells)
>Wednesday: full body
>Saturday: push
>Sunday: pull
I hit all muscles twice a week, plus give some extra love to my lagging arms. The price: three hour long sessions at the time plus skipping a masturbating session on Monday.

The hard part is getting your sleep on point. Also it used to be easier when I worked from home on Monday but I'll manage.

>>75728603
Why do you have friends? Are you a fucking faggot or something?

>>75729051
Okay I see now, you're just a pussy

>>75729424
maybe he's botting for cards. I have over 120 hours cause I'm botting.

>>75728583
>>75728653
>>75728701
>there is a large difference between an actual gardener and some guy with a strimmer who comes to tidy your place up
my job title is gardener but i just mow lawns and trim hedges
i think i am the latter

A lot of people are just spending way too long working out for nothing but greatly diminishing returns

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>>75728533
>he fell for the 'real job' meme

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>>75728533
The average man nowadays is expected to have a full time job where he is exceptional, lift regularly, maintain a relationship, maintain his social circle and also work on a personal project trying to make it.
Its hell but its always the darkest before dawn I guess

OP is a troll most likely but for people who are actually going through this as professionals, you're REALLY not supposed to be commuting. Either you live close to where you work or you work close to where you live. Don't share your number at work, don't respond to messages before or after working hours. If you're on call figure out how to minimize the chances of problems happening as priority #1. If you can't do these things, then the extra pay isn't worth what is about to happen to your health.

>>75730774
Netflix is a brain-off activity, lifting is a brain-on activity (at least until you've built enough of a foundation to do it casually). It's not an excuse but if someone is getting up at 6AM to travel 2 hours to work, working from 8AM to 6PM, then traveling back home from 6PM to 8 PM, getting to the gym can *feel* difficult (not that they shouldn't just nut up and do it anyway). I could also see where going at 8PM and frying yourself with a legit workout ends with you sleeping harder and could throw the next day out of whack when you need to start your commute at 6AM or risk running late to the office. It just feels easier to take the low hanging fruit and binge some TV (though these types could at least squeeze in some light calisthenics before bed while binging TV I guess).

I think the longer term solution for this kind of problem is to quit any job that has your life fucked up to that degree and reevaluate your decisions.

>>75731390
>>75729135
>>75729641
Nta but to cut him some bail he could be on-call outside of regular work hours and not sleeping properly as a result.


In a nutshell, this >>75732411.

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You can wake up at 4 am
I'll do it to catch the late NBA games. You could do it for the GYM
t. yuropoor

>>75732893
i do all these things. the struggle makes life worth living. striving for greatness should motivate you

>>75728533
OP really wanted someone to tell him he is right

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Work 7 till 3, live small city so community pool and gym on the cheap and after have time to go eat my face off at home or local eateries and have time to get relaxed with a drink and a puff. Plenty of time to go out when plans are made. Still single tho, own house and car with toys for hobbies.
Nothing makes sense when everything works out just fine.
The fuck am I doing with my life.

>>75728603
kys immediately

>>75728533
>>75728603
Yet you have enough time to come here and post. Curious!

>>75729260
If you're doing any cardio then you're not finishing in 45 minutes.

>>75728533
>Most of you here are NEETs or bums who work night shifts in some dead end security job

this reminds me of when some roided manlet at the train station yelled at me "FATASS SECURITY GUARD JEALOUS!" I was 6'1" 200lbs like 15% bodyfat... I just noped out and got on the train... roidtrannies are insufferable.

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>>75728643
Yep. You're right over the mark.
Only issue is that you think this is a good thing: not owning the bulk of your days' time. You are a slave. NEETs are not.

>>75729773
getting my license soon cant fucking wait to just sit around all day and have all the energy i need when I am done with my shift.

>>75728533
>everybody in this thread working two jobs
jesus christ and we call it the land of the free.

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