>starting strength doesnt wo-https://www.reddit.com/r/StartingStrength/comments/1hyn914/635_lbs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Pretty good for a 55 year old man.
>>75728979Yes. Because a 55yo man needs to deadlift 635lbs. An old man should be trying to be fit and healthy instead of a hunchback at 65
>>75728979fuckin mirin did he actually do SS?>>75729055>never improveCan you post your nose, please?
>>75729077Breaking your back and needing back surgery is improving... all so that you could post your PR on reddit of all places
I don’t think your strength needs any starting at this point
>>75729093>doesn't post noseThanks for confirming. Shalom!
>>75729055>>75729093The more muscle mass you have and maintain the better quality of life you will have later and later in life. Nothing inherently wrong with deadlifts, they're a very functional movement pattern.
>>75729393I am not a warehouse worker so deadlifts are useless to me.
>>75729055That's exactly what he's accomplishing you worthless retard.
>>75729408he doesn't look very healthy to me
>>75729414looking like a homosexual cyclist isn't peak health either
>>75729420don't shit yourself by straining this hard
>>75729403>>75729414Post body.
>>75729403>Doesn't ever need to pick up something off the floorKek
>>75729444post proof that you aren't a homosexual fetishist and I might
>>75729453Just post your wrist then lil bro.
>>75729449care to name at least 10 examples where you do need to pick something heavy off the floor? Except that heavy thing doesn't come with a perfectly balanced handlebar, faggot.
>>75729465ESL moment.
>>75729457concession accepted, faggot
>>75729453>>75729473lil bro got mogged kek
>>75729476>neckbeard>muscle looks like an extra armpit all around the shouldergrim
>>75729476Mirin, lifts?
>>75729465>That highBro, the fact that you had to do 10 instead of 2-3 shows that you know you're being ridiculous.1. Your child (you are gonna have kids, right anon? You're not a KHHV, are you?)2. You drop something or something falls and you need to pick it up3. You get a package delivered and it weighs more than you expect4. Moving a couch5. Moving a table6. Moving a TV stand7. Moving a TV8. You're doing home renovations and you need to pick up a box of tile9. Picking up a carpet10. Picking up linoleum or some other flooring>Doesn't come with a perfectly balanced handleSure, but that honestly doesn't really matter. It still prepares your musculature, joints, and bones for picking something heavy off the floor. The fact that it's so balanced is what allows you to progress them so well and get stronger easily.
>care to name at least 10 examples where you do need to pick something heavy off the floor?
>>75729498>child>heavy>on the floorcertified american culture, here in europe we don't drop kids on the floor
>>75729531Do your children float over the ground or something? But seriously, what if they get injured and you need to pick them up and take them to the doctor?
>>75729556yeah they float above my hands
>>75729556Women's work.
>>75729564>Thinks that the average woman will be able to do something like that when they can't even do basic athletic movements
>>75729055Anon has a good point and dummies misunderstand on purpose.Old people absolutely should and need to lift but there is such thing as too much.Besides, ss is fucking gay as fuck and always has been.
>>75729556Wait, what? You mean to say your kids don't float safely to the ground when dropped?Oh man.
>>75729393>The more muscle mass you have and maintain the better quality of life you will have later and later in lifeYes. But:>compromising joint integrity and ESPECIALLY spinal integrity for the sake of muscle growth nullifies any quality of life gains from increased muscle mass, and can in of itself ruin your life. Don't egolift. Use babby weights, use perfect form, don't go full retard with lower body barbell movements.
>>75729592>Thinks that a characteristic of deadlifts is to compromise joint or spinal integrity L O L. I'm not saying you need to test your maxes every week or day or even months, but to imply that deadlifting only baby weight (proportional to what you're capable of) will get you anywhere is laughable. Not to mention this guy's form is actually pretty decent.
>>75729571Don't marry an average woman.
>>75729657>So no deadlifts for me, only for my bitch wifeKek
>>75729685Not my problem.
>>75729607Be honest with yourself. How many people do you know who have squat and deadlifted that don't have some degree of lower back injury?
>>75730324Everyone I know with a back injury from the gym blames it on squatting and/or deadlifting. I've never once heard a guy say that a 1 mile jog broke his back
>>75730324Injuries happen, you can rehab them. I rehabbed my back when I hurt it back when I didn't know what I was doing and snapped my shit. Doesn't mean that they're guaranteed to fuck your back, I haven't had a back injury since. Besides, people can herniate discs by sneezing, saying squats and deads are inherently injurious when they're movements your body is designed to do is dishonest. Whenever you sit, you're squatting. Whenever you pick something off the ground, you're deadlifting. Loading these movements in a progressive and controlled manner is one of the best ways to build up your body.
>>75730324>>75730333I don't cavort with morons so I've never heard of it. If you're stupid you shouldn't squat or deadlift
>>75729055Strength is literally the best longevity toolRetards should be in homes with controlled internet access, not posting here thinking their opinions are actually legitimate
>>75730344>Yeah I hurt myself but it wasn't the lifts fault, I was just being dumbYeah. You were stupid for doing the lift in the first place. Your body is designed to do things unweighted. That's like overloading the weight capacity for a hydraulic lift. Yeah it "can" lift it. It's designed to lift it. But you blew the cylinders because you overloaded it. Your body is the same way. You were meant to move a very small amount of weight. 200lbs at most. Anything else is overexertion on your body and will eventually break it.
>>75730378It literally wasn't the lift's fault. Nobody taught me about bracing when I first started lifting. The fact is I haven't had a back issue that wasn't a pulled muscle for almost 9 years, since my initial injury.>Blew the cylinders because you overloaded itHydraulics do not have the ability to rebuild and adapt over time to stress, poor analogy. Your body can adapt to the stresses you place on it, so long as they're gradual enough. >200 lbs max, eventually break itThat's hilarious, you should be a comedian
>>75730392>Your body can adapt to the stresses you place on it, so long as they're gradual enough.Yeah your body also wants to drop excess muscle and return to its natural state of hunter gatherer. But you don't think that's right huh
>>75730443Sure, it wants to do that but that doesn't mean that putting on muscle is bad, especially through efficient movements like squats and deadlifts. Are you gonna say what your body wants is correct now? Because most bodies appear to want to be morbidly obese due to the easy availability of highly palatable and high calorie foods. Just because your body "wants" to do something doesn't make it right or even logical.
>>75728979>rippetoe>legendFucking kekMark Roiddetoe and Bill Starroids are both weak as fuck.
>>75730469Causing your body to be fat by eating unhealthy high calorie foods is the same thing as causing your body to put on unnecessary muscle that strains your skeletal and cardiovascular systems by over exercising. Just because it's more acceptable to be a musclehead doesn't mean it's healthy, afterall you can be jacked and overweight BMI. That doesn't make BMI wrong, it makes excessive muscle unhealthy. Ronnie Coleman is the perfect example of how lifting excessively heavy is not healthy and makes you prone to injury. Here's an anon on /fit/ being "very healthy" totally no risk here
>>75728979>utm paramsretarded nigger
>>75730617>platform next to support beamthought this webm was going to go a different way
>>75728979I will be benching mire than he could have ever imagined in 1 year
>>75729093From dling 600+ right when I can sure
>>75730617It's not the same thing, not even close. Once again, having large amounts of muscle gained in a natural manner is not going to be nearly as detrimental to your health as you claim it is. The more muscle you can maintain as you age the better your quality of life will be.>Strain your skeletal systemYou mean make it stronger? Fun fact, this is one example of strength training being beneficial. https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClDIhdwg6bw/?igsh=MW9obDZvNWdoaWpwYw== Dude has a bone density of over 5 standard deviations over normal from his age group. You think he's more or less likely to have a life altering fall as a result of his increased bone density?>Ronnie Coleman and bringback/smg/>Using a roider that pushed past multiple injuries without attempting to rehab and a competitive strongman as reasons having more muscle is badLmao, surely you understand why these are poor examples for why strength training for the general population is bad.>Over exercisingKEK
>>75730617This dyel kwab thinks anything over 200lbs is unhealthy amounts of muscleThis is how you know he is 5'6 and pajeet
>>75730487The embarassing thing about it was that this was accomplished using steroids.
>>75729583I don't drop things because I didn't fuck up my hands with deadlifting.You'd think powershitters with grip that can hold onto 200kg could never drop anything weighing less than 10kg lol
>>75730617>That doesn't make BMI wrong, it makes excessive muscle unhealthy.It's not the same as being obese. Visceral fat causes chronic high blood pressure and insulin resistance. Tons of muscle doesn't, and exercise reduces chronic high blood pressure and insulin resistance.
>>75731124too bad, every powershitter is obese in the classical sense, mainly due to low IQ and buying into retarded bulking and cutting fad, but even then, you'd think that at least one could have bodybuilder physique, low bodyfat, and ability to powershit, but apparently you cannot deadlift your own mother unless you look exactly like her, fatass
>>75731135this. I fell for the powerfat meme and it was a bitch to lose. At work I see people starting the powerfat meme with those gay protein shakes. One went from skinny to obese in 2 months.It's natural selection at this point
>>75731135>>75731205>Every powershitter is obeseDo you even take 1 second to do proper research? Weight classes exist in the sport. Here is a 66 kg lifter, doesn't look obese to me in the slightest.https://www.instagram.com/reel/DChSjPOSH8k/?igsh=OGZnOG93bGIyNmMw
>>75731213okay so now we have proof that powershitters are retarded and just make excuses so they can stuff their mouths with food, concession accepted, I hope you do look like him and aren't obese yourself, yea?
>>75731222What are you even talking about? Powerlifters fit into weight classes. If they're obese with shit lifts then they're a shit powerlifter. If they're an actually competent powerlifter they usually will not be fat unless they're fairly tall. But 83 and 93 kg bw are the most populated weight classes by far, and neither of those require you to be obese to fit into them.
>>75731229I don't know why powerlifters don't list their height. There should also be height classes. If you're tall as fuck, weight class doesn't matter any more. You just focus on adding as much mass (muscle, but fat doesn't matter) as possible.
>>75731237Because weight classes are effectively height classes dummy.
>>75729582What does "too much" even mean? Clearly he's strong enough to get a clean rep not some cat-backed hitching grinder. Are you saying he should just lift 3pl8s for the rest of his life?
>>75731253Yes, he should lift to be healthy instead of hyperfocusing arbitrary number till his spine snaps.
>>75731258Not everyone is a frail pajeet glassback.
>>75731289lets talk about this when I'm 60 and still lifting while you're begging your deadbeat son to roll you over and wipe your bloodyshitstained ass
>>75730487Post your lifts totalling 1600+ while weighing under 200 lbs. I'll wait lil zoomzoom.
>>75731302Lifting is not for you raj, youll forget about it in 3 motnhs.. Find a new hobby like playing video games.
>kids go 9-0>including 6-0 varsity>forfeit 8 weights and lose the dualWeems-trained wrestlers are TOUGH (I make them powerlift) but I must get more of them
>>75731302>when I'm 60>and still liftingYou dont even lift now you fucking noodlebuilt pajeet lmao, post your brown, unwashed hands so that I may mock you
>>75732097Post body fatso lol.
>>75730324Me
>>757312221/2/3/4 for reps status?
>>75732097DO NOT REDEEM THE LIIIIIIFT!! I WILL PDESS IT! NOOO00000OOOOO0000
>>75730378>>75730324don't cast pearls before swine, bro. These niggas are insecure and think squatting and deadlifting as much as they can getting all red in the face and cortisolmaxxing makes them tough. They don't realize how shitty their egolifting form is, and for some reason think they are immune to getting their shit fucked up because they're le badass alpha male. The type that is depressed and believes pointless suffering is a virtue.I get you are trying to help them but they just have to learn from experience
>>75732166>SAAAR POST BODY BLOODY BENCHOD BASTERD!
>>75732555Ah, the classic 'I'm better than you because I don't try as hard' cope. It's always the ones who can't even squat their body weight who are suddenly experts on form and injury prevention. Post body, but we know you won’t because you are small and brown. Reply to confirm this post has upset you. Post body if it has not.
>>75732611You got mad. It happens.
>>75732555>>75730378>200lbs is the most you should move saar!I want glassback indian twinks to leave, where did they all come from lads?When did SS stop meaning Starting Strength and start meaning Street-Shitting?
>>75731302When I was 20 and playing dota 2 for 8 hours a day I couldn't even walk for long periods of time because of lower back pain but now that I'm 30 and can deadlift 5 plates my back feels better than ever and I doubt it's going to change anytime soon. Ironically the only time I pulled something in my back was when I was doing curls with baby weights lol.
>>75730344Your body is not "designed" to do a squat or deadlift with a loaded barbell for resistance. These are optimized movements with artificial loads created to produce a large amount of resistance across a plane of movement that your body has skeletal muscles to push against. Taking that load and increasing it to just under what is mechanically possible for your morphology isn't training; it's performance. Why are you performing? Who and what are you doing it for? To get stronger? Be honest with yourself.
>>75730344>>75730344No, injuries don't just "happen." You get them from doing things. Most people in the gym are training like RETARDS, and incur debilitating injuries while partaking in what they call "strength and conditioning." If you're risking serious injury, what exactly are you conditioning? Your mind to be accepting of your body falling apart? The whole point of training is to make you less injury-prone, not to incur them. For that reason alone most people should be banned from using gymnasiums.
>>75734244>Shifting goal postsI'm not talking about maxing being good for you. It comes with risks that you shouldn't take if you're fairly old. But what I am arguing for is progressively overloaded movement being good for you, because it is.>>75734252Lifting weights has an incredibly low injury rate, lower than basically any sport. And a lot of the times, people get injured from plain old bad luck. But to imply that lifting weights doesn't make you less injury prone is also hilarious, see >>75730655>People train like retardsThat's their fault for not doing proper research or learning how to brace and lift properly, not the fault of a given movement like squats or deadlifts.
>shifting goalposts>people who get injured doing x just need to git gud!
>>75734477Why don't you reply to my comment like a man? You're basically like a child staring at the ground mumbling, scared to look me in the eye.
>>75734477The dosage makes the poison, if you never did a Jefferson curl for example, would you load 5 plates on the barbell and give it a go? Or would you slowly build up from nothing while recording yourself and checking your form constantly, potentially working on mobility as needed? Same thing applies to squat and deadlifts. It's like that green text where that retard tried putting his bodyweight on the bar while squatting with sandals for the first time ever. You have to dose the movement with the appropriate stimulus for you.>>75734497Lel, but you're still weird for larping as me
>>75734513My point is that gymgoers without fail end up injuring themselves "training" given a long enough time horizon. It's not a question of git gud. If 95% of gunowners in America at some point shot themselves in a negligent discharge, while I wouldn't go on blaming the inanimate guns themselves, don't you think it would bring in to question the purpose and utility of all these people owning guns if all they do is shoot themselves with it? This is exactly what is happening with gymgoers right now.
>>75734659While you could make the same argument for sports and physical recreation, those are the purposes for training to begin with. Nobody says >man I want to get in to shape so that I can squat 3 plates in the gym!They say>So you're telling me if I squat 3 plates in the gym I'll be x% better at so forth as a football player? Guess I'll incorporate it in my TRAINING
>>75734659That can happen with any physical activity including walking. Human bodies aren't perfect.
>>75734659Injuries happens regardless of what you do with your life you stupid faggot, ERs around the world being full of snapped up people, vanishingly few who did so in a gym, is a testament to that fact.The incidences of injury per 1000hrs is exceptionally low in both weightlifting and powersharting when compared to the vast majority of other sports, INCLUDING non-contact sports like tennis.tl;dr youre a sad (probably indian) noodlebuilt faggot desperately looking for a reason to not lift and justify your choice to be a weak shit.
>>75734740Norwood
>>75734761And a sex-pest, but his wisdom is absolute
>>75734740>the incidences of injury per 1000hrsdoes that include the 10 minute rests between 10 second tension intervals?
>>75729476you look like shit dude. like im not even joking you should have just stayed dyel because then you at least wouldnt look like whatever this is
>>75734497>>75734513You couldn't even get a meeting with me. You're nothing kid.
>>75734835Post body
>>75729592>Use babby weights, use perfect form, don't go full retard with lower body barbell movements.baby weight will give you baby results. Work hard, get at or near failure with decent form. To reduce injury stay away from the below 5 rep range but still work hard.
>>75729592>Just lift to failure with perfect form>What? Use lighter weights to accomplish this? What are you a fag? Manage all 3!
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>>75734980I accept your concession lil zoomerito
