What defines weakness in a man for you?I'm not just talking about strength or lifting, but weakness in the sense of its traditional meaning.
>>75730195Stoicism. Cue on 3... 2... 1....
>>75730195I would say not having morals, no strong beliefs, being lazy, not trying to succeed in life.
>>75730267Succeed is such an abused and retarded term. I prefer the term VICTORIOUS. That makes more sense. Are ya winnin son?
>>75730195Passivity is what makes a weak man.
>>75730195lifting for women
>>75730195being poor
>>75730195emotional repression (even if it's the bad stuff, it means you cant function being yourself). Thinking there's a goal in life. Thinking you're special. Having strong beliefs, because it means being stuck on being right, someone who actually loves truth has a collection of truth in their memory which is always expanding, if you have strong beliefs it means you're right in only one thing.And the final one, mimicking an ideal, because it means you only care about the superficiality of it and that you cant control yourselfbasically not being a 4tranner/estoicism/sigma freak
>>75730195>watching cartoons>weaing a batman tshirt>being an incel>using made up incel words like "___maxx", "___pill", malding etc>playing video gaymesin other words, look in the mirror faggots
>>75730397oh and I forgot the star wars toys
I think betraying your morals for women is a sure sign of a weak man. Nothing worse than a "bro" who throws you under the bus just to look good in front of a woman
>>75730195DishonestyLack of integrity.
>>75730195Being unable to tell people a truth that they don't want to hear, sometimes that person is themselves. See it all the time at work (lots of browns and w*men). They never want to answer a question with "I don't know" so they make shit up on the spot and it causes more problems later. They never want to say "we can't get that done by then", so everyone is whipped to crunch and then we get reprimanded for missing a deadline everyone knew we would never be able to hit even with everyone working 80 hours a week. They never want to say "X doesn't agree with that", so they lie about X's position on the topic hoping they don't find out later and bring receipts. I hate weak people and they deserve every ounce of it
>>75730195lack of power in the most general sense of the word. especially in the spoken and mental narrative- slave, victim, thinking
>>75730576is it bad for a woman to have that?
>>75730195Unwilling to face consequences, wants to run away to their hugbox instead of actually talking to people with different unbiased opinions and always blames others for their own faults.
Cynicism and apathy are the hallmarks of weak men. People who have been beaten down by life instead of overcoming hardship and flourishing in spite of their setbacks.
The inability to follow what they say or announce their negative traits was positive ones. I would quit if X happened. X happens. Keeps working.Don't worry about me, I am just an asshole. It isn't my fault I get angry, I have Italian heritage.
>>75730195OHPIT IS The MANLIEST LIFT.When debating With Someone just go and OHP him.
>>75730413this. confidence, self-assuredness, and honesty are the hallmarks of a good man. deceit, insecurity, and lies are the mark of a weak sub-human.
>>75731087Nobody on this board is honest.
>>75730410they all do that
>>75730222Yeah this.Also the unwillingness/inability to break rules.
>>75730860Nah, cynicism is a normal part of male aging, like getting pubic hair when you enter puberty or getting wrinkles when you enter middle age. It just happens.
>>75730800You're asking the wrong people about women. but in the most general sense of the word lets say there can be loser women and virtuous/victorious ones and female powers and merit
>>75730195Lack of responsibility. If you're not responsible for something outside yourself, you're not a man.It could be a small business with employees, a family, or any dependents for that matter. Could be president of a club or association.if you haven't taken on responsibility for something other than yourself, you're still a boy.more weaknesses but on a slightly lesser scaleLaziness/slothRelying on other men too much to maintain what's theirs. Attempt at least to fix your own shit first. Even if you fuck it up worse at least you tried.Flakiness. Not doing what they say they're going to do, not being somewhere when they said they'd be somewhere. Both at work and home.CRYING IN PUBLIC. You may shed a tear in public during a death or if a dog dies in a movie. These are the only acceptable times. Anything else is childish self-indulgence.Vegetarians/vegans/limp wristsWEAK HANDSHAKES. You don't have to crush a mans hand, but it must be firm you fucking sissy.Thankfully the men in my life were never any of the above which gives me a good foundation of what's expected.
>>75730195Relying on a woman.
>>75731187lol square
>>75730195Antisemitism
>>75730195>Lack of own opinions, just parrots current sentiment of the current thing.>No self control.>Social anxiety.>Lazy.>No willpower/lots of addictions.Being far too agreeable/people pleaser>can't do basic diy/handiwork or refuses to>doesn't like children and doesn't want to have a family>doesn't like natureJust to name a few
>>75730860Word to that. Cant stand cunts that refuse to pick themselves up and see the beauty in struggle and suffering.
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>>75731136No only asshats do that. Like if you're talking to a girl at a bar and your buddy comes up to you and tries to punk you or tells her an embarassing story about you. There's no need for that.
>>75731236Found the kike.
>>75732435That tells you this person is not your friend.
>>75730195Lack of impulse control physically and mentally
>>75732450Exactly. You thought they were your friend but then they turned on you for absolutely nothing. That's a weak man and I've stopped associating with "friends" who did that
>>75730375>Having strong beliefs, because it means being stuck on being right, someone who actually loves truth has a collection of truth in their memory which is always expanding, if you have strong beliefs it means you're right in only one thing.How do you know the difference between a strong belief and a truth? Don't most people that believe something strongly do so because they believe that its the truth? And if they think something is the truth, shouldn't they believe strongly in it since its the truth?
>>75730195Believing in nothing. If you don’t believe in anything I have no reason to take your opinion on any topic seriously, but especially around moral questions
>>75730195>>75730195Weakness? I don't know what that is. I only know what it means to grow up undocumented, emotionally neglected, without basic healthcare, without proper nutrition, physically weak, and attacked by everyone.
>>75731151Right. Most men are weak, that was my point. That’s exactly what I was illustrating with my post.
>>75733845They all run away when consequences come to bite them in the ass
>>75732920There are broad moral/philosophical truths, but on individualistic matters having ultra strong beliefs means you are dead set on being right and wi ignore any new evidence to the contrary. I don’t “know” anything, or maybe only a little, but I’m pretty sure about a lot of things.
>>75730195Never accepting responsibility for himself and wallowing in bitterness because it feels better than honesty. It’s never *his* fault things are bad, it’s always because of women, or he was just born unlucky with bad genetics, or whatever new cause-du-jour is circulating.
>>75732920>strong belief and a truth?I just like to believe anybody who has a strong belief is right in that belief, and most people are right on a lot of things all at once, so having one that's specially strong is kind of neurotic in my opinionif you have strong beliefs in something that's wrong then that's double the mental illness
>>75734092>sophistry in the year 2025If everybody is right, then nobody is. It’s a logical impossibility.
>>75730195Someone who cares about the opinions of others and solicits opinions from others.
>>75730195Does not value honor. If a man cannot be taken at his word...
No matter how strong a man gets, he'll never thrive on his own. Men are one of the weakest species when by themselves. Those of us who don't fit in, be it by lack of ability, not agreeing with the values of society or any mixture or both, have the biggest handicap.But it's not a weakness in itself, just a handicap. You can make yourself strong to overcome that handicap. A weak man is an antisocial who fails, whereas a strong man manages to either trick others into giving him what he wants or is so full of ability that others can't help but need to rely on him.The weakest of men are probably the ones who, in spite of having a place in society, they manage to fail.
Consistently being a burden unto others. Whether it is demanding your wife tend to your every need, being the friend that constantly needs a ride and bums money off of you, or being a useless bastard at work while your coworkers pick up the slack while suffering even more from your ineptitude, you are weak if you must rely on others to take care of you. And please note the word "consistently" there, because everyone has moments where they can't perform the way they normally would. Sickness, financial hardship, or simple bad days can all cause one to temporarily become a burden on others, but the important part is to not allow oneself to stay weak and actually work to take care of yourself.
>>75730375>Having strong beliefs, because it means being stuck on being right, someone who actually loves truth has a collection of truth in their memory which is always expanding, if you have strong beliefs it means you're right in only one thing.What a retarded thing to say. Having strong believes is the opposite of weakness, in fact, not having any moral principles and political beliefs is one of the greatest signs of weakness. Your not willing to stand up for anything, and your mind will conform to whatever grifers are telling you is the 'truth' you care about so much.
>>75734373>Your not willing to stand up for anything, and your mind will conform to whatever grifers are telling you is the 'truth' you care about so much.not true, if you need truth and you're not willing to stand up for anything you're double subhuman because you have erroneous strong beliefsAlso, being unconcerned with human society is the strongest act of will power, anybody can get political, who can become an ubermensch? only me
>>75734373Having universal moral principles and beliefs that are applied to particular situations isn’t the same as have super strong opinions on specific situations. If you’re super opinionated about specific things, you won’t be able to adjust your views when presented with new information.
>>75734397>not true, if you need truth and you're not willing to stand up for anything you're double subhuman because you have erroneous strong beliefsWhat? If you're not willing to stand up for anything, what strong beliefs can you have? And why is it a bad thing to care about truth? You sound incoherrent to me.>>75734417Views on specific issues are a product of strong moral beliefs though. For example, if you strongly believe in democracy, you'll naturally be against the right-wing. Or if you really believe in global peace, you'll oppose unjust wars and governments that are likely to cause them. Strong moral beliefs will cause you to have strong opinions on things, and that's a good thing.
>>75734476Strong/rigid views allow you to become easily propagandized, you brainlet. It’s a blind spot most people aren’t aware of, as is obvious from your post.
>>75734476Democracy is not a moral or ethical issue; not a broad universal principle. You don’t even know enough to have an opinion about your opinions bro.
sinning.
>>75734476you dont need to stand up for truth, therefore it doesnt need to be strong, the truth is like the floor you stand on it, it's a tool
>>75734336>Whether it is demanding your wife tend to your every needliberal hands typed this
>>75734573I would agree that truths are self evident, but people obfuscate the truth (lie) all the time for their own personal benefit. Lying is a moral/ethical issue, so somebody who holds that moral position would find themselves compelled to speak truth to lies.We can’t even agree on objective truth anymore thanks to post modernist “intellectuals” muddying the waters, though. In my opinion, “intellectuals” should never be trusted because they can justify some wild shit if they think on it long enough.
>>75734524I wonder what ((you)) think sinning is
>>75730195>What defines weakness in a man for you?Being the guy carrying the shoes.
>>75730195Not having a reasonable chance to kill someone if you have to
>>75734736alcoholpornographygamblingetc.
>>75734893What about premarital sex?
>>75734902it's a sin but I wouldn't sperg out about that
>>75734911But you’d probably sperg out about masturbating, huh?
>>75734940yes. masturbating is for losers.
Letting shitskins and kikes into your country. I don't care how hard of a worker you are, if you let shitskins and kikes into your country, you're not a man.
>>75730195Lacking courage and valor.
>>75730397>>watching cartoonsah shit>>wearing a batman tshirtmore of a hulk guy>>being an incelI fucked>>using made up incel words like "__max, "__pill, malding etcJust for goofs>>playing video gamesI like playing games and I'm not gonna stop anytime soon