>>75730754
Very light weight. When you go heavy you force the traps to come in and do most of the work. When you use really light weight you can focus on the rear delt entirely

>>75730754
>>75730788
honest questrion, why not just work the traps alongside the rear delt? It's not like your upper back can get TOO thick

>>75730810
Traps grow easily. Big traps look retarded and give you a more narrow frame

>>75730810
It's easy for the traps to overwhelm the rest of the upper back. Huge traps throw your physique out of balance. Big traps are good but huge traps are a bad thing. The traps also grow very easily so you have to be careful not to give them too much work

>>75730810
because law of diminishing returns.
It requires exponential work to get exponential results.
The rear delts by their nature cannot overcompensate the traps, the traps will activate at a specific weight and when they do they will grow very quickly. Which with every other workout they activate on, which is most. Just compounds the posture issues of having large traps.

>back cannot be too thick
Yeah come back when you aren't 16 years old anymore.
Traps are one of the largest issues in cervical dysfunction of the neck, shoulder impingement, and nearly every other issue involving a very delicate system that influences almost half your body.
There is always a point with traps where it went from everything is fine to
>fuck everything hurts, my neck and shoulders are fucked, why does my thumb hurt now?

>>75730754
I switched away from dumbell lateral raises/flies to chad cable raises and my rear delts grew massively. Keep the weight really low and MOVE YOUR ARM AROUND while feeling your delts with your other hand, until you feel an angle that most hardens/uses your rear delt. Then do that movement, but while holding a cable.

>>75730991
cables are virgincuck shit, just get resistance bands

I use incline bench to support my chest, helps me focus entirely on lat engagement.
You can also use the reverse fly machine and go to a max of like 40° (basically stop the moment you feel your scapula begin to retract)

>>75730836
>>75730890
>>75730900
losers
this is why you stupid little twinks will never be big in a shirt
your traps should be as big as humanly possible, same as every other muscle on the body
caring about the minutia of
>muh rear delt
>muh lower pec
>muh bicep long head!
is retarded and gay and makes no difference
eat shit and stay small

>>75731819
based neanderthal

>>75730754
never isolated my rear delts and they're awesome because i do seal rows

>>75731819
If you shit talk this much and don't post your ogre balding old ugly man body you deserve everything bad that will happen in your life.

Let's see it dude.

>>75731838
Sounds gay

>>75730754
Lay facedown on an incline bench. That will eliminate most of it. Angle your arms down more too. As a last resort just use the rear delt fly machine

>>75732368
>s-sounds g-gay
Ha, what a fucking pussy, get out of here

>>75730810
ineffective
you want to train shoulders not traps

>>75730754
Why would you want to avoid working your traps lmaoooo

>>75731436
If I saw you playing with a resistance band and calling it a workout for your rear delts I’d pity you. Just use free weights or cables if you’re sped. Bands are for faggots

>>75732794
Luckily I don't hang around in places full of incels like you.

>>75730836
>I don't want to get TOO big
Post tits you woman because only women think like this and I want to see your tits.

>>75731819
Based. Traps and shoulders are the quickest path to mogging other men

>>75730754
Use a machine

>>75730754
start with 3 pounds braced against the incline bench until you figure it out.

>>75730754
You literally can't and that's a good thing. Get some middle trap and rhomboid work in there.
>>75730788
Using a traps is a matter of mechanics, not necessarily weight. You have to retract the scapula in order to generate the motion hence using the traps is unavoidable.
>>75732513
Not ineffective. It's possible to train two or more muscle groups at the same time. If you had knowledge of kinesiology you would know this. I.e. barbell curls train both the biceps, the brachialis, and the pronator teres at the same time. With only a couple exceptions, there are is no such thing as an exercise that exclusively trains specific muscle groups nor can you really set up an exercise to do so. The vast majority of motions use more than one muscle group to generate the motion.

>>75730788
Nah how about just mmc and feel it

>>75732927
It's not even too big it's too lean looks weird

>>75730754
Maybe upright rows I don't like flies so I'll post about if I get considerably bigger rear delts from just ripping apart when doing pulls

All these fucking dyels talking about how they need to deactivate their traps need to shut the fuck up or kill themselves. If you would actually train you would realise it’s impossible to work single muscles exclusively, and why would you even want to? It’s not like you’re getting better gains doing weird contortionist bullshit. Lat raises are already heavily rear delt biased. As long as your form isn’t too sloppy it gets the job done, especially for you dyels with less than a year of training experience

>>75730754
I like to lock my while wrist to shoulder and do one armed like db rows I just got a decent pump doing that, I'd think actual big reae delts are build from up top rows just like wide front delts doing up high bench.

>>75734391
Oh and turn into the fly so it hits the rear delt, if you do it leaned over the other way it's simply gravity has the traps as the antagonist. Also pimp slap que seems to work trying to out torque into it.