>Who is /fat/ for?For seagulls practicing self control, working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Previous thread: >>76547297
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>>76549361Reminder: liars come here to trick you into eating carbs and counting calories.The most effective weight loss strategy is avoiding carbs and eating unlimited calories.
No one cares
>fat loss thread>as in one retarded schizo reposts the same retarded images and posts which neither say nor prove anythingvery fun
the schizo has done more damage to the reputation of keto diet than any other person
>>76549361you've been making these generals for years. are you still fat?
>>76549368>>76549375get with the times. everyone uses an AI assistant for their fitness regiment. if your posts aren't funny you need to go
workout time, wish me luck frens
>>76549375the source you posted says the women reduced calories in order to lose weight though.
>>76549368what does this mean?
>>76549389>>76549393don't respond to the schizounless it's you samefagging in which case kill yourself in the most excruciatingly painful manner
>>76549384The ones who do CICO are definitely still fat.
>>76549389The low-carb group ate unlimited calories. The low-fat group restricted calories.The unlimited calorie low-carb group had better results.
>>76549393It means low-carb works best.
Bros what the fuck happened to me. Today i was weak as FUCK at the gym. Like a weight that I could do for 4 sets of 9, I was failing at 6 on my third set. Normally I would think its due to me restricting calories too hard but I didn't even lose any weight over the weekend. I also slept poorly last night but its hard to imagine a bad night of sleep being that powerful on your lifts.
>>76549440If you're counting calories and eating low-fat you've probably nuked your testosterone.Eat more fat. More egg yolks. More red meat for carnitine, carnosine, and creatine.
so hungry...
>>76549453so full from my big 800 cal supper yum
>>76549453go eat
do you guys get through fasting by internalizing it as self-punishment of do you weave into it a more spiritual resolve-building asceticism?
>>76549462I just don't eat
>>76549462i just want quick results and no loose skin
>>76549440i've had bad days too. try later and if its a trend you're in trouble>>76549462i try to make it routine, once it becomes your routine its harder to break.
How do I maintain the intense motivation that I currently feel It’s great but I’m not sure that I won’t start slacking say a month from now
>>76549486going to the gym makes me feel so good, whenever I'm sitting at home I just wanna get out again, if this is just motivation I hope I don't lose it
>>76549453Have you considered chicken and broccoli?
I want a hot dog and some pizza so badly rn
i wish i had that inherent primal urge to be strong and manly so i could finally get off my ass and start working out but its simply not there. i dont mind my noodle arms that much but i really should.maybe next year will be the year i finally take up lifting.
>>76549481If it’s a trend does that mean I’m dying
>>76549543start going and you'll find that desire
my dinner sandwich is spam with chili sauce, onions and garlic. its pretty good but it burns a little.>>76549543just get two 10 pound hand weights. do curls and lateral raises. once youre at the point where you can do 100 of each you'll be in a good spot
>>76549407Are we supposed to be impressed by lefts body?
>lose ten pounds>suddenly start busting big nutswut
>>76549559i'd go to the hospital and get some blood tests
>>76549456>>76549457>>76549520I had chicken borger and potato, am no longer hungry
day 6 no booze/no nutEvery time ive ever lost a substantial amount of weight its been with ive done those two things TOGETHERand every time ive gained weight back after crushing it is cause i decided to start drinking again.do with that information what you will
>lost like 300g in a day>know that's pretty good but falls so insignificant as to basically be 0
>>76549577sounds like you lost fat that was wrapped around your prostate
>>76549379Is he still here ?!? LMAO i remember visiting /fat fairly often in 2020 and he was shitting every single thread no exception. Now thats mental illness.
>>76549599Is that what you told yourself every time you are a Snickers bar? It's insignificant and basically zero? Goes both ways bud
>>76549604It's like 0.2% of my body weight.Feels like virtually nothing.Also, if I say my weight is 135,000 grams instead of 135kg the utter bleakness of the situation is intense.
>>76549627At 300g/day it would take you 45 days to lose 10 percent of your bodyweight which is amazing. Stop being a defeatist cunt you deserve way better anon WAGMI btw.
>>76549627start checking every 3 days so you'll lose like 1 kilo each time
>got complacent and ended back at 260 from 255 a couple months agofucking kill me, why do I keep doing this to myself man, it feels over and that theres no coming back, i essentially lost all of my progress
>>76549721its only 5 pounds
>>76549726yeah but its months of time lost, basically wasted and reset
seriously thinking about going to that japanese all you can eat buffet tomorrow, but I don't want to drive an hour and a half.....
>>76549734you can recover that 5 lb with just 2 days of waterfastingWell I guess its probably too hard for you, just putting it out there
>>76549748i thought no-food fasting was considered bad for you? how do you get the energy/protein to go to the gym?
>>76549757you do it for short bursts and then refeed with high protein low carb foodAnd no, you can water only fast until you're as skinny as you want (if you aren't a body builder concerned with building muscle)
>>76549757you've got enough energy sitting on your fatstores to last half a year buddy, dont worry about energy
>>76549764>>76549765so do you duggest giving it a try? how long of a period should i am for?
>>76549777As long as you can to test yourself and understand what it means to fast and that you're not going to fall apart from it
I’m 215 pounds and I will never buy a snack again.
>>76549785Snacks are okay, as long as you can fit it within your calorie budget whatever helps you stick with your diet is good
>>76549783ok anon i will try a 24 hour fast starting right now, any tips on how to stick to it?
how am i supposed to have a set plan to work out every other day if the 2nd day, the next workout day, after workingout is the day that lands on after, where soreness is the worst
>>76549823Don't eat anything.
>>76549734>5lbs>in a couple monthsYou're supposed to actually try anon. You could have that mass off of you in 2 weeks if you would just stop stuffing your fucking fat face.
>>76549826Last week I started going to the gym for the first time, I used the chest press machine and my arms were basically useless the day after, couldn't fully extend, could barely take the cap off my toothpaste. If you're kinda in the same boat this is apparently caused by working out for the first time or after a long break. There's anecdotal evidence that working out the same sore muscles can actually make them less sore. In my case I just took two days off, and when I went again and used the same machine I had no soreness the day after. If this is your case, just ease into it and don't worry, if not, well maybe someone else will have better advice.
>>76549823drink coffee with a bit of creamfocus on work or anything elseif you start getting really hungry do some cardio (walking, jogging, cycling)
>>76549868>creamwouldn't that spike the whatever thingy...? or is that meant to be his very last bit of ''something''
>>76549873some people will tell you to do water only fasts, 0 calorie fasts, etc. but "fasting" is defined as any extended period of extremely low caloric intake (200 calories or less in one day)A bit of cream in your coffee won't break your fast. If you think you can do 0 calorie fast immediately, go ahead. If not don't feel bad about small shit like creamer
>>76549868thanks anonalso for exercise, how necessary is weight lifting rather than just cardio? i can do both but my issue is how time consuming it is, I end up losing nearly an hour and a half of my day doing them both
>>76549880a fast is no calories though? its not a fast even if ur just eating 100 calories a day
Should I bother lifting while in a massive deficit? I enjoy it but I’m not sure if there’s any point
Losing weight, I dunno if it was worth it.Over 100 pounds and what do I get? Higher test which means higher DHT.I don't wanna choose between my hair and dick.
>>76549890Yes, it help you retain muscle.
>>76549572>Are we supposed to be impressed by lefts body?
>>76549891just get the dickbreaker pills
>>76549361Well, I’ve been making these one meal a day smoothies and dropping weight like crazy. I’m down 20 pounds. Anyway thought I would post my epic progress
>>76549912ok well you shouldn’t have
>>76549902You know the rules, keto spam is allowed but posting your trash physique isn't. Everytime you do you'll get mogged by this grain eater. Have a bowl of oatmeal or something kek
>>76549930Where's your timestamp?
>>76549659So I'm going to make it? Thanks Kim.
>>76549868>Immediately breaking your fastDon't listen to him anonA fast means 0 calories.
>>76549940Where's yours? Thank you for the compliment tho I know it's hard to believe You're spamming the same old picture, the second you post a new one with a timestamp I will too.
Came up with my own arm workout plan, at least for a beginner, I get that doing anything is better than nothing but how do I know it's good enough?I don't trust random youtube videos or chatgpt to create one for me.
>>76549890i'm doing it, keeping my strength up. I consider it just a little extra calorie burn for my diet.
>>76549957If you lose weight in a week
>>76549957What equipment do you have available? I live for arm training pic above
>>76549962Not helpful, I've already been losing weight with a calorie deficit. I'm taking up lifting to get some muscle on my arms.
>>76549955>Thank you for the compliment tho I know it's hard to believeIt is, yeah.>You're spamming the same old pictureI haven't posted anything in the thread and i don't do keto, i just think you're lying. Aren't you the same poster that posted you were on a sugar diet? Seems retarded to me.
>>76549930>different filename>lifted off some fatty thread >>76525531 >reposting it as hislaffin
>>76549963A pair of dumbbells and an adjustable bench.
>>76549955It's not even him. He got it from a thread from a few years ago where an anon mentions that he's done keto. He took it and made it his posterboy. He's a fat fuck who has been doing this for a decade. We call him ketoschizo.
>>76549974>Weonly you do, moxyteyou think everyone that follows one of the most popular and effective diets in the world is the same person
>>76549971Thanks for the compliment. Not going to take a new one 24/7 365 when you spam the same year old picture. Couple days ago >>76549970Yes I'm doing the sugar diet
>>76549973Dumbbell French Press is the best dumbbell tricep movement and incline curls/seated hammer curls6-10 reps on the French press and incline curls and 10-15 on the hammer curls with some cheating (swaying to get the weight up) once you reach the top of the rep range, add weight
Would you guys say it's better for someone just starting out to prioritize just eating healthier and not worry about exercise until you lose a good amount of weight, or just force yourself to do both?
Plus hammer forearms with wrist curls by laying your arm across the bench kneeling next to it, in the 10-20 rep range (Lower will kill your wrists) again adding weight when you can hit 20 reps.
>>76549952Do you seriously think that as soon as you eat a calorie your fast ends?
>>76549980My mistake, looks legit. I still can't buy a sugar diet though especially if you're still fat and trying to lose weight, maybe if you wanted to gain weight though even then I'd way prefer to eat chocolate or something instead of raw sugar.
>>76549980Ketoschizo btfo yet again
>>76549987eat less and do basic exercise. focus on calorie burning exercise like walking, but basic arm exercises are fine too.
>>76549990People that believe in the magic of fasting aren't worth reasoning with. I love doing 16:8 IF for hunger control but if you ate the same amount of calories throughout the day vs in your eating window it would make zero, and I do mean zero difference in weight loss. They just believe in stupid bro science instead of seeing it for what it is, a way to make a deficit more manageable. Same with the keto retard. Some people would do better on keto than anything else but the missionaries of any specific diet are so insufferable and make so many bogus claims it just loses credibility
Assuming I don't change my eating habits otherwise (I'm roughly around maintenance), would 24 hour fasts be a viable way to introduce a consistent deficit?
>>76549996I'm literally doing it for ten days just to send keto schizo into a spiral. I'll post a side by side proving I got leaner on pure sugar and he might commit a war crime against one of the customers at the best buy he works at. I love trying meme diets just to see how they feel. UD 2.0, 16:8 etc etc and it'll be funny to watch him try to explain since the sugar diet spikes insulin and as long as you are in a deficit you still lose weight. It honestly has been enjoyable so far, I have so much energy it's making me stir crazy lol
greek yogurt is a gift from god
>>76549999so don't worry about a full free-weight routine? just start some kind of basic walking/jogging schedule?will this lead to me being "skinny fat"?
>>76550005>Assuming I don't change my eating habits otherwiseThat's an incredibly bold assumption tho... You think after fasting for 24 hours then opening the floodgates to a full on maintenance day you won't overeat? I mean it would work but you'd need an iron will. Completely fasting is the best bang for your suck though
>>76550021That's exactly what will happen. In a deficit especially a big one, resistance training is mandatory if you want to look like a human and not an alien when you reach goal weight. Full Body, twice a week is perfect for dieting anons
>>76550026Well not an actual actual fast, I was thinking psmf so I don't lose lean mass (but same principle)
I needs some advice i came across RETATRUTIDE weight loss injection method when i started searching for ozempic and mounjarno .Has anyone tried and what's experience?All the place i try to buy need crypto coins which i don't have.I live in Port Coquitlam,BC how the fuck i get one. Anyone know how do i get one using visa or mastercard?
>>76550032Yes that's perfect. https://youtu.be/BXLVj1vs3KU?feature=sharedTimestamp 2:40:28 and 2:20:18 and 3:17:48 this topic is addressed by Lyle McDonald the creator of the most followed PSMF protocol which describes ways to use RFL days as you are describing
male, early 30s, 6ft tallstarting my journey to cut back to my college weight of 175. I was 200 last week, 196 this week. OMAD, maybe 1000 calories, very high in protien. I started adding a cup of frozen veggies (especially peas) to the meal. Typically around 1000-1500 calories. I'm pretty used to only eating in a small window, and it's amazing how easy it is to be full with a little food.Typical meal:>1 cup of frozen vegetables>1 cup of beans>1 serving of protein (Chicken, beef, deenz)>sauce made of cottage cheese and yogurt, or eggs>glass of milkCycling 20 miles a day to go to work, and just pushups / pullups in the meantime.any feedback?
>>76550037You can buy crypto with a visa or MasterCard retard
>>76550030so should i try to do both immediately? or focus purely on weight loss first and then once I get to like halfway to my goal weight start exercising?
>>76550045If you can actually maintain that you'll get there really fast. That is pretty extreme though so it's a big if.
>>76550014>I'm literally doing it for ten days just to send keto schizo into a spiral.Kek, I can respect that. I did keto about 7-8 years ago and it worked pretty well for me but I chalk it up purely to being an easy way to have a deficit without really thinking too much about it, doing psmf currently and it also works just fine.
>>76550001>Same with the keto retardstopped reading, IF isn't the same thing as fasting anyways + you're a retard
>>76550037>>76550037this sounds like a poor person trap
>>76550044Thank you anon, I'm not a video person but roughly what goes into a PSMF? I'm vegetarian anyways so could I just eat a bunch of tofu or something and be done with it?
>>76550047My CC Company reject every transaction if i go to crypto sites ?FML
>>76550047Depends on your bank, i'm an ausfag and switched banks a few times because they don't allow it, leafs are probably similarly cucked.
you think chatgpt or gemini give decent guess at TDEE if you are accurate and descriptive enough with what you do?? i asked them both, and they initially said i should aim for 2k calories. but after i described the physical shit i do at work, and more in depth on what exercising i'm doing..they are both now suggesting 2700-2800 as a sweet spot
>Started on ozempic.>heat up a 500g pizza>Can't finish it.
>>76550052I mainly wanted to get over the plateau. I was stuck at 200 for months because of the snacking, best thing omad helps prevent. Once I start eating, I have a hard time stopping. I'll probably ease off and increase calories in a few weeks
>>76550001you're right and the more you talk to these people the more you realize nobody really knows what the fuck they're talking about. At best people just pick a study they think agrees with what they already believe, and ignore any other study that contradicts it>Fasting means zero calories! ZERO! If you have a piece of gum then you're not fasting!>Wait, there are calories in black coffee?>uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh w-well as long as you're having less than 50 calories a day, it doesn't count! No, you're not allowed to ask where I got that number from!
>>76549978>>76549974See, he thinks everyone that talks about him, even second again, is his gay redditor boyfriend that he stalks. Schizophrenic. Probably from him keto diet.
>>76549980>no response from ketoschizo
Just finished another 24 hour fast with a chicken thigh and some tuna, I've decided I'm going to that buffet again tomorrow and eating 3,000 calories of chicken + steak + sashimi + shrimpcarnivore is awesome!
I don't get why retards here think body means anything. If I had a good body I would shill some retarded fad diet for easy (yous)
>>76550045if it stops being easy then err on the side of 1500 calories instead of 1000. that's criminally low.
>>76549987doing lots of exercise makes it so your body needs more calories. most people go crazy in the beginning and start doing a bunch of cardio and also cut a ton of calories. they feel awful and then give up. we see the pattern over and over in here. the easiest way to go is to just focus on diet for a few weeks or months and then go hard on exercise. a little exercise (like walking) is a good idea though.
>>76549974anyone with a name or persona is not a real person but a sockpuppet for OP to keep the thread bumped and steer the conversation. even if the character is saying things that are blatantly untrue, it's just so you will argue against the ideas and keep the thread active. it's stupid and probably the main reason why don't really post here anymore. it's frustrating to argue with fake people when real people are the ones who actually need help and get ignored.
>No longer eat for fun.>Bored all the time as a consequence.
>>76550261True. Literally anyone here can pretend to be any known persona.
>>76550247my plan is to go up to 2000-2500 calories soon, I mainly wanted to jump start my weight loss and break my snacking habit. I feel fine but I worry about having too big a calorie deficit for a long period of time.
>>76550242your body is a testament to how much you believe in your own bullshit, and the results of said bullshitNo one expects you to look like a roidmonkey if you're shilling a diet, but the minimum is to not be a lardass and have some muscleif you've been shilling something for years (like the retard that's been here shilling against keto for 3+ years) you should have a body worth posting. If your bullshit works, 3 years is plenty of time.
>on the exercise bike at the gym>in a good rhythm feeling great>nigger music starts playing>motivation dropswe should just exterminate all blacks and eviscerate all remnants of their "culture"
>>76550339thats not very nice
>>76549987>>76550254I think progressively easing into exercise is the way to go. Just try to do a little more than last week.For example first week, just walk for something easy like 10-minutes, next week make it 12 minutes, 14 the next week, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 36, 42, 48, 54, 60. Then once you've worked up to an hour you start tracking something like heartrate, and you try to spend more and more of that time in zone II increasing your walkspeed or incline until you're in zone II. Once you've worked up to an hour of zone II walking you can start adding some basic lifting. Focus on form and learning to do the exercise right, take it slow and ease into it, start with a basic upper lower split and lift three times a week, something like Upper - Rest - Lower - Rest - Upper - Rest - Rest. You can work up to something more advanced after a few months.This is a marathon, not a sprint, people who try to go from sedentary slug to elite athlete always burn themselves out and quit.
>>76550108yeah they're really good at this stuff if you feed them properly
>>76550339My gym blasts nigger bop all the fucking time and it's legitimately the most distractingly bad shit I have ever heard. I live in England, it just sounds goofy and retarded.
>>76550347it's literally that nigger drill rap from England that started playing, it's repulsive
I've finally settled into my 16-18hour fast schedule. But what's something I can use to get some extra energy without interfering with the ketosis?The later workhours suffer.
>>76550351https://youtu.be/n714-4sekPA?feature=shared&t=18>Surely this will help you exercise anon.Yeah, thanks JD Gym, go fuck yourself. Tempted to leave a 0 star review on google just for this shit being blasted down my earholes for hours each month.
>>76549361weighed in at 176.4 lbs at 5'10 very bloated I've been eating almost entirely carbs and sugar the past month gained like 5 pounds in that time framegoing to need to fast and fix the diet to end August and throughout September
>>76550409LMAO. I don't get it though, cant they play hardstlye or house music or something to get people pumped? shits retarded. they should just have Danzel - Pump It Up on repeat lol
Lost 60/85 pounds so far this year. Now my body is on full blown retaliation. Buckle up boys, you're about to be in for some gimmicks that will be illegal in 100+ countries 5 years form now.
>>76550524Nice work, keep it up.
>>76550543Thanks. WAGMI.
>>76550108Sigh beware ai can be a trap. It's trying to please you. Chatgpt I want an answer. No not that answer look at all this shit I do. That's better. You lead it into saying what you wanted as the answer and it obliged you like a passive aggressive robo faggot
It's a grindStay save lads
>2 am>can't go to sleep>went to the kitchen and downed 300 calories of fruit + deli ham sliceslogging this here so that my sins may be judged
>>76550614That's not so bad.
>>76550614I gave in at 2amI will just skip meals today
>>76550658do u ppl not have sleeping pills or wat
>>76549361How do I deal with the fact that all fat goes to my face? I have a decent looking nose and okay looking eyes, but my fat cheeks and receding jaw make me look like a child. I feel disgusted with myself after my boss referred to me as a younger sibling ngl
>>76550665Melatonin isn't legal (outside of prescription) in some places desu
using a small Asian bowl and chopsticks works wonder for portion control
There's a church get together at the end of the year that's supposed to pair off single members. If I can manage to maintain 2kg of weight loss every week, I think I could be in the dateable range by then.
>>76550682Lose weight
>wake up>crave cardion-no... I'm not a cardio bunny...I-I'm NOT!
>>76550709I enjoy my walk everyday, it's good getting some sunlight desu
>>76550718I question how much exercise I'm actually getting by just walking, since it doesn't feel very strenuous at all, but I do like getting my 10k steps in. Plus it gives me an excuse to get away from people for a while.
>>76550758I also do 10k steps a day and even though it's not very strenuous it still burns a decent amount of calories (based on online calculators) while also being good for your health.
>Start to lose weight.>Losing at a steady rate for a month now.>Other overweight people start to get crabbuckety on me.>Are you sure that's safe? >Don't lose it too fast, you'll develop a complex!>Be careful! You don't want to burn your muscles and diet!>Are you sure it's not just a fad?>You know you're going to rebound and gain it all back, right?
>>76550682Stay true to your diet and exercise plan.More importantly, dont focus on it. You will wake up one day and the problem will be gone.
>>76550785>>Other overweight people start to get crabbuckety on me.who?tell them to fuck off
mmmm... crab legs in a bucket...
>>76550789Friends and family.
Working on a coffee meal replacement smoothie creation. Anyone do something similar. So far>1 scoop>1/2 cup cold brew>1 frozen banana>oats>peanut butter>1 cup milk
Is it okay to skip breakfast?
>>76550881no sorry
>>76550701>>76550788Thanks anon that is very inspiring
Doin' a 5x5 and counting calories. Wgmi!!!
>>76550881Sure but it's not a solution by itself. Even at my fattest, I wasn't eating breakfast. I'm just never hungry in the morning.
sometimes I think about once I hit my GW, I reconnect with my abusive psychotic excuse of a mother just to show off how skinny I am compared to her fatass. Im already the skinniest in the family, I'm also the smallest. Fucking cock-worshipping whore.
>>76549880You're joking? Fasting means no calories, or anything that can trigger a metabolic response, for x amount of time.
>>76550923>I'm also the smallest.this is not a good thing
>>76550932it is if you are a foid, I need the least amount of calories yet i mog them all.
>>76550923least psychotic fatty
>watched a full body dumbbell workout video>started wheezing by the 3rd exercise with lightweight endurance trainingBrehs, I'm so fucking fargone it isn't even funny and has gone 180 to being a really serious concernAlso anyone find a good diet soda alternative?I can't stand drinking only water, tried some cheap flavored sparkling flavored water but it had fucking aspartame in it, I read I should avoid that shit.
>>76550953if youre fat you shouldnt be concerned with "muh health" when it comes to zero sugar/diet soda thats the least of your concerns
>>76550923I would advise against this course of action. You can not make a narcissist feel the following things: regret, shame, pride in someone else. If she cant degrade you with truth, then she will do so will lies while putting up a confident face. You're just setting yourself up for more mental exhaustion.If you're really need to get back at her for what she did to you then do so from a distance where she cant reach you but can definitely see you. Nothing pisses off a narc more than seeing their nsupply thriving and doing better than them. Seeking happiness is the best form of revenge.
Why does everything have so much calories, I feel I have to skip a meal to see any results.
>>76550923Oof, doesn't matter how "big" you get little guyStop caring what negative people think and cut them out from your life, nothing makes crabs in a bucket seethe more than you forgetting about them with no regrets and being happier.
>>76550986because you're eating slop
>>76550961got to start somewhereif I change a bunch of small things, eventually it adds up to something bigI already limited my fast food to weekends only and have been eating air fried fish filets every weekday for over a week but the diet soda I can't stop until I find the better healthier alternative.
>>76550881yeah I do this if my hunger is getting out of control and I can't trust myself not to overeat later in the day. self control is strongest in the morning.
Did the 10k needfull steps sir
>>76551048good job anon
>>76550881Depends on your work/life styleIf you work during the day and sleep at night it's better to skip dinner and begin your fast sooner, it's called breakfast for a reason, it's when you break-fast.Definitely limit yourself to two meals a day with snacking in-between, when I say snacking it means fruit or nuts.
>>76551056tyWAGMI
After reaching my largest at 260lbs, I finally got below 180lbs for the first time in 5 years. It feels good to see the number 17 again. I also put on some muscle so I look even better than I did at 165 (my lowest). Still aiming for at least another 10lbs loss. No loose skin yet.
I fasted for a couple days and dropped from 139 lbs to 134. Ate a meal, fasted for another couple days and exercised but remain at 134. What the fuck do I do now? I'm trying to to 125 lbs within the next few weeks.
>>76551070NoiceI am exactly at 180lbs. Tomorrow I should be at the 17 range tooIt's a grind. Step by step.
>Have blood in my stool.>Panic>Think I'm dying from dieting too fast and giving my ass cancer.>Call doctor.>Week-long procedure of samples and tests.>You swallowed blood from a nose bleed and it passed through to your digestive tract. You are fine.
>>76549368What's considered low carb less than 20?
>>76551173Is low carb or low fat better for weightloss. Or just low everything?
>>76550881this >>76551062if you want to skip a meal, skip dinner. or even better, do OMAD and skip lunch too
Former fat guy here. Just a reminder that you can make it and you will make it. And by virtue of being here, you are on your way to making it. I wish you the best and I hope you can overcome whatever roadblocks get put in your way. Don't let anyone demoralize you or any setback put you into a depression that prevents you from improving yourself.
>>76551213Thanks bro, thats reassuring. I felt like I failed today, and I did, but tomorrow I'll do better.
>>76551223Good mindset bro. Tomorrow is another day. It's another opportunity to start off strong and finish strong. And even if you make some mistakes realize that everyone does and no one is perfect and as long as you're moving in the right direction generally you're gonna be okay.
I want Germany to leave.
>>76551254>GermanyThere's no poop shelf
>>76549361why she isn't sharing with seagull?
Mods? Can you ban the literal shitposter?
>>76551260Those are not environmentally friendly, we don't do that in Germany anymore.
>>76551281So a guy like me suddenly can’t ask for a poo prognosis after eating a omad diet I just wanna be sure it’s coming out healthy
Finally getting back in to the groove of fasting, 3rd fast in a row, after getting used to rolling em it gets real easy. ~15kg of fat to lose, lets see how quickly I will lose it this time. 105kg -> 90kg lets fucking go!
Good morning, frens. Stay strong.
178.4 on my goal to 155
First month on cico 22 days in i have lost 10 pounds so far. Im treating it like a videogame
When I did keto I had no energy after like two weeks.
>>76551374You too, fren
First dessert I’ve had in a month of weight loss. I’m down almost 5 kilos so far from 131.6kg. Might be over my TDEE for the day but I need this for my sanity.
>>76551489>Not even under 130kg>Already binge eatingpeak ngmi
>reduced deficit to 1000kcal>eating 3SMAD>still have to actively shove shit in my mouth between meals to meet the the 2000kcal intakeEating 3000kcal will be a fucking dayjob when I get to maintenance, nevermind any talk of bulking.How the FUCK did I manage to get fat in the first place.
>>76551518I’m 126.something, 130+ was starting weight. Actually think I’m gonna make it, 291 calories as a binge with 30g of protein is fine.
>>76551551If you're going to do it anyway, then don't post about it here. Because if you post about it here, the assumption is that you want a critique
Am I a weak faggot bitch if I switch from working out 4 days a week to 3?
>>76551582Yes
>>76551582No, you're not weak. At least you're working out. Everyone has circumstances in their life that cause them to reevaluate and restructure. As long as you're still making an effort, you're not weak and you're not a failure.
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>>76550881Skip breakfast bro don’t listen to the absolute retards telling you to skip dinner as if you won’t sleep like shit when you’re hungry. You can get through morning hunger with caffeine but you can’t will yourself to sleep if you’re starving.
>>76551374>>76551461Good morning sirs
>>76551644The opposite is true.
>>76550953>Also anyone find a good diet soda alternative?iced tea.>>76551106800 cal a day for 4 days, when you check the scale again you'll be lighter
>>76551644desu I agree. Having a light breakfast or skipping it feels 10x better when you can sleep on a full stomach instead of waking up halfway in the middle of the night. Then having trouble falling asleep... then when you sleep you oversleep and come late to work fuck
>>76551630fuck i cant do it. oh well, back to the retard corral.
One thing I've learnt on my fat loss journey is that good sleep is incredibly important and that you should do everything you can to preserve it.
>>76551692>One thing I've learnt on my fat loss journey is that good sleep is incredibly important and that you should do everything you can to preserve it.this 100000000xI woke basically had terrible sleep like in >>76551686I ate most of my food in the morning. Went to go workout and couldn't even do half of my sets or keep up with my usual cardio.
>>76551698>I ate most of my food in the morning yesterday
>costco croissants are 300 calories a popThey must be using like 20 blocks of butter to make these, the croissants at my local grocery are 180 a pop.
>>76551776dude costco food I swear inflates it's food with cheap calories to make everyone fat as fuck. I think ((they)) know everyone uses costco and it's cheaper? so it's a good way to poison the general population.
I got 2 yolks from one of my eggs this morning
>>76551797u just ate 2 babies
>>76551800but it was tasty doe
>>76551786I'd believe it, using the dollar tree method of creating brand loyalty
>>76550785Rule 1 of weightloss: never talk about your weightloss. With anyone. No matter how proud you are about yourself.If anyone comments about it, just answer>you think so? thanksand change the subject. Do not engage with bucket crabs.
>>76551776Butter?
>>76551776Your local grocery store is more likely to lie
>accidentally eat at my full tdee>as punishment go for 3 hours long, non stop, moderately paced walk and burn 1000 kcalAt least my progress is consistent and I'm losing 0.7kg each week at minimum.wagmi
>>76551859That's intense dedication. Great job.
>>76551861I'm currently unemployed, so there is a bit more free time than dedication desu. If I had a job or were still in education I definitely wouldn't be able to stay consistent with myself.I understand neets now.
>>76551857>Your local grocery store is more likely to lieain't no way.. they can't be that off because aren't these labels approved by someone to be within a certain range?
staring weight: 118.1 kg 20/8current weight: 113.2 kg 26/8goal weight: 70 kgheight: 179 cmmethod: rolling 72s with salt water and coffeealso do some light cardio each day
What is the healthy max kg of fat you can lose in a week?
>>76551885They only control the big brands and even those have a 10% allowed error rateI mean it really depends on the country, I'm talking about the US here and we don't have any strict controls for local foodery such as baked in store bread or pastry
I involuntary ended up having 0 calories yesterdayI feel like absolute dogshite, barely any motivation, I dont even want to eat or do anything an almost depressed state of being
>>76551921Whatever the maximum number of calories the human body can process in a week is.You can eat nothing for a week, and as long as you hydrate, you won't die. You'll feel like shit. But, you won't do any long term damage to yourself, the amount you lose will be relative to your TDEE. Now, the maximum amount that you can lose in a week, consistently over the course of several months to a year? That's a very different question.
>>76551922>we don't have any strict controls for local foodery such as baked in store bread or pastryHmm so they just smack on whatever in the calorie label? >They only control the big brands and even those have a 10% allowed error rateAs long as it is a brand name it has some control? or just the mega brands like oreos or something.From what I heard most of the storebrands are just from the big brands but with cheaper ingredients, so assuming they use the same machine to test it or whatever it should be close to each other
>>76551935>Hmm so they just smack on whatever in the calorie label? Bakery items don't have calorie labels. If you go buy a loaf of fresh baked bread or birthday cake, there's no bakery that's going to put a calorie label on it.
>>76551940>Bakery items don't have calorie labels. If you go buy a loaf of fresh baked bread or birthday cake, there's no bakery that's going to put a calorie label on it.oh mines usually has something on it. But if you go to a small local place yeah then they won't have anythingI don't usually buy anything without a calorie label
>>76551935They oftentimes just use FDA or USDA numbers and then kinda ballpark it from there by weight and scale up or downBrandnames just have a higher liability risk when using wrong labels, the more they sell the more likely its properly controlled as they would use their own researchers to provide a custom (within error margins) calorie countBut its not guaranteed to be correct, you know how they like to manipulate that to appear as best as possible
>>76551946Ok
grocery store time babyeeeegonna get me some chicken and broccoli
244>235 6'313 days in, and down 9 lbs. I was on a mini vacation at the weekend and did indulge in beers and nice dinners to eat.But I also did a lot of walking and showed restraint from temptations earlier in the day, unlike others in the party I was with. Result: didn't gain or lose anything.I had it all arranged and booked weeks before I decided to go on a diet and I didn't want to leave myself out and be a pain with friends and family
I feel like absolute shit today
>>76550923>>76550939why the fuck are here poonfrengo back to your containment thread
>>76551951>Okyou sound tsundere. can I kiss you?
>>76551931>involuntaryhow does that happen
>Ate 2100 calories before mid daywat do? how do I save this?
>>76551982Ok
>>76551988What did you eat
>>76551963Why
pro tip for any other fags who worry about your blood pressure. I started to suspect that my machine was fucked because of the high varience between readings. So I started to just take my blood pressure over and over and indeed the machine is absolutely worthless. I got 159/90 and then 125/71 within 30 seconds of eachother. It seems the only way to do blood pressure right is get yourself a manual hand pump one and learn to do it the old school way imo
>>76551931>Didn't eat>Feeling flatI think the body gets used to running off of easy forms of energy. And tends to use up the most easiest first and is much slower using the hardest to extract.Something like this sequence1 cellular atp2 blood glucose3 liver glycogen4 soft subcutaneous fat between the muscle exterior and the skin 5 hard visceral fat around your organs that give you that round distented shapeI remember watching some Asian doctor talking about it. Something like the "compartment theory of fat".
>>76551991>Okyou cutie patootie*jiggles your belly like loud alarm clock*
>>76552014>It seems the only way to do blood pressure right is get yourself a manual hand pump one and learn to do it the old school way imooh hell no, you mean one of these?
>>76552023Ok
>>76552028Yeah I think so. My machine and the much more expensive machine at the local walmart are both fucked. that or I have some crazy heart condition that makes my BP jump around from minute to minute
>>76552003Slept very poorly. Also lowered my deficit last week but I don't think that has anything to do with it. Not sure how I'm gonna do my workout tonight, might have to lighten the weights...
>>76552030>Oki'll fix you... *screw driver open your tummy*
>>76552017Not sure about that, because you still lose fat even when you have energy from just a regular 500 cal deficit
>>76549361"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.">Ephesians 2:8-9"Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.">2 Corinthians 9:15
How can people eat above their bmr without being paranoid? TDEE is like a fucking guess
>>76551304ask your doctor. they actually get paid to look at your shit
>>76551988time for intermittent fasting is what
>>76552194I actually find that calorie estimates for exercise are on point for me. If I just sit around all day I assume my TDEE is the same as my BMR.
>>76551667thanks man
>>76552212On my typical weekday where I do my weight training course the calorie counters think I burnt 4500 and I find thst suspicious as fuck so I dont eat past my bmr
>>76552014>>76552041You're really not supposed to measure your BP over and over again in short periods of time.Blood pressure monitors also have to be checked and calibrated occasionally, if you've had yours for a while it might be way past time to do that.
>>76550785i lost 30kg and my mom called me a freak, im not even skinny yet, went from obese to overweight, just dont listen to people trying to get you down anon i believe in you!
>>76552267>Blood pressure monitors also have to be checked and calibrated occasionally, if you've had yours for a while it might be way past time to do that.how the hell do you calibrate them? >You're really not supposed to measure your BP over and over again in short periods of time.Is once a day far enough in time?
fuck my worthless 1000 cal breakfast life
What's the most accurate way to measure kcal loss from cardio, a fitness watch?
>>76552362Depends on the cardio type
>>76552362
>>76552366Mostly walking, I'm wondering because I did a 40 minute walk and my regular smartwatch is saying I lost 350 cal which I find is probably bullshit
>Used to work physical labor job>got hurt (back, knees)>Went from working labor and working out at the gym to sitting on my ass for years>Was still eating like I was working out>gain 120lbs>6'5" 360lbs nowI'm sedentary 99% of the time and even just walking around for too long causes me pain. What are some low impact exercises I can do at home? I know it's about calories in/out but because I'm very immobile most of the time, should I deduct another 500 calories or something? I have a dumbbell that can go up to 36lbs and was looking at buying some resistance bands or something.
>>76552386Don't focus on "earning" more calories. Keep your activity level high and dial in a hard cap on daily calories. Find the lowest target you can hit while staying sane. Protein and high satiety foods are your best friend.
>>76552386Yeah, they're very inaccurate. A better way of doing it is to measure the distance that you walked and divide it out so that you can calculate the miles per hour and then factor in how many minutes you walked. There are numerous calorie calculators online and many apps will let you log how much you walked by specifying the mph
>>76552400>>76552405Thank you anons
>>76552392maybe you could get one of these stationary pedal thingies and use it while sitting?
>>76552392if you have the time, calorie deficit would be better for you. All that fat is causing you inflammation
>>76552422No problem. Godspeed. Keep us updated so we know how much you actually burned.
>>76552423I was looking at one of those seated stationary bikes too>>76552437that's what I was thinking. I the "average" person is say 2k calories to maintain, a deficit for them would be 1500 calories if they're walking around even an average amount. I'm not. I'm seated or laying down 90% of the time. So would my "average" be like 1200 calories to make up for the fact I'm not nearly as active? I've currently stopped gaining weight and I'm eating around 2800 calories a day (mostly fast food because I'm lazy and was eating my feelings)
>>76552450https://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.html I just use this to calculate my needs desu, I'm too lazy to get out a measuring tape and get an estimate for my body fat %
>>76552450>that's what I was thinking. I the "average" person is say 2k calories to maintain, a deficit for them would be 1500 calories if they're walking around even an average amount. I'm not. I'm seated or laying down 90% of the time. So would my "average" be like 1200 calories to make up for the fact I'm not nearly as active? I've currently stopped gaining weight and I'm eating around 2800 calories a day (mostly fast food because I'm lazy and was eating my feelings)You can just use the calculator in the OP to get a better idea. But if you are not losing anything at 2800 being sedentary, then another 500 might do the trick.
>>76552344>Is once a day far enough in time?Yup. It's "within 30 seconds of eachother" that you shouldn't do. You can however measure it again on the other arm pretty much immediately, but there will also be some natural difference there.>how the hell do you calibrate them?Usually by sending it to the manufacturer. Check if there are services nearby that can handle the entire process for you, maybe even do it locally.
>>76552587>Usually by sending it to the manufacturer. Check if there are services nearby that can handle the entire process for you, maybe even do it locally.holy fuck I've had a bp monitor in my house for 10+ years and never calibrated kek
god damn I need more fiber...
Is using an exercise bike for 15-20 minutes enough of a leg workout or should I be doing something in addition?
>>76552613Salads are delicious and a great low calorie way to get more fiber, I just buy the prepackaged ones
>>76552625>Salads are delicious
>>76552614that's maybe 80 calories burnt if that's okay with you.>>76552634true. I was okay with it but I got bored of the only salad dressing I liked.
>>76552614If you're a sedentary fatso, your lower body is almost certainly a physiological disaster zone and the last thing you should be doing is wasting time on an exercise bike.Strengthen your glutes and abs and stretch your hip flexors and quads instead.
>>76552634Yeah it was so good it came with southwest dressing and bits of toasted tortilla for croutons, I had half the package and it was like 150 calories>>76552643Actually I did 15 minutes today and the calories burned tracker on the machine said 150, when I went yesterday for 20 minutes and used higher resistances it said 250, could it be inaccurate?>>76552659But if I've been a lifelong sedentary fatso, wouldn't cardio be good to strengthen my heart and lungs and clear out all that cholesterol? I'll still try to use the leg press and extension machines more.
Ozempic make anyone else feel like you could throw up at the slightest issue? Today I was doing curls and felt like I could puke if I just did a few more. I am thinking this is from the ozempic but I might just be getting sick or dehyrated or some other shit.
>>76552690you digest food much slower which means it sits in thereit's like if you started to exercise a few minutes after eating
Cute mail-woman (as in delivering the mail) told me her name 2 days ago, totally unpromptedNever had them do that before, I of course told her my nameYou think she wants the D? Or she tells her name to any random guy she delivers mail to?Anyways I forgot her name already lmao
>>76552756ask her out next time you sperg.
Is sure hope I'll wake up to a loss tomorrow, the rebloat plateau has been going on for 4 days already.
>1600kcal/day>plateu for 5 days>didn't take a shit for 2 days>worry.jpegjust took a massive shit. feels so good.i swear that only happened because i ate too many veggies
I pigged the fuck out
>>76552767Same here bro I have had the same weight for 4 days too. If it doesn't go down tomorrow I am gonna lose it
>>76552767>>76552797Stay strong bros. Body weight can be influenced by stress, weather, air pressure, mode, the amount of sleep you've gotten, how much salt you've eaten, your hydration level, and all kinds of other things. Don't stress out about it so much.
>>76552786This is the way of Pleasure:She stings them that despoil her;And, like the wingéd toilerWho's lost her honeyed treasure,She flies, but leaves her smartDeep-rankling in the heart.
>>76552759I think I just have a fat brain where I cant imagine someone being interested in me
>>76552808you'd be surprised how many chicks are actually into fat dudes
just used a weighted vest for the first time, its not bad. went with 20lbs, but I might return it and get one at 40lbs.
>Boners +20Huge boost my confidence and mental health.
>>76552808Still feels weird. But then I'm also a stupid kv so you know.
181.4lbs
you know the pig out was wild when it's been two hours and you still feel like you're going to throw up
I also pigged the fuck out
>>76552904>>76552904
>>76552780the veggies push the poop out. that's what they're for. when they say that fiber keeps you 'regular' that's just what they mean. if you can't poop- it helps you poop, and if you are pooping too much- it helps you solidify things and poop less. it regulates you.
>>76552162you cherry pick the worst passages out of the bible to post here. please stop.
you lose weight through works, not through faith. god gave you a beautiful body and you abuse it by eating too much and not doing enough exercise. you think that god wants you to be a fat piece of shit?
>>76552932The irony of this post is palpable.
>>76550614You're doing better than me anon, i couldn't fall asleep so I ate a whole bag of herrs cheese puffs. Literally 1280 cals in one sitting
I'm a 28 year old 39 bmi 100% sedentary NEET. I probably have diabetes already and should just die. Not like I can afford insulin.
>>76552634>tranime>phone poster>tasteletyou need to be over 18 to post on this site
>>76553543diabetes goes away once you lose the weight and stop eating a ton of carbs
