>Who is /fat/ for?For former feasters, working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Previous thread: >>76549361
it's ok to throw away garbage
fucked up the subject field you double nigger
I'm finally losing weight again
oink oink oink!!!!! I'm such a fat pigger.... ooops!! I pigged out again!!!
>>76552934wheres ur greens anon
This general is like at least 200% more schizo and avatar fag riddled than last year
>>76552941greens?
>have binge eating problem>go to the kitchen 1 - 2 dozen times a day>eat small amounts of food throughout the day>just realized that isnt normal>started strictly only eating 3/4 times a dayi cant believe im that retarded to not have realized this earlier, but at least i got it now.
>>76552910i just threw out stuff I think wouldn't fit into my diet. too calorie dense and wasn't as good per calorie
>>765529503 or 4 times a day isn't normal. Most people eat 2 times a day.
ate a big breakfast (5 eggs, 2 pieces of toast, jam, butter, orange jews)now i'm gonna go to class then i'll have ONLY a pot pie when I get home and I'll have my calories for the day
my metabolism is through the roof. earlier this summer i started working 1000 hours a week and found myself hungry as fuck all the time. i worried very much that the change would completely derail my weight loss progress and that i would stop meeting my weight loss goals. that didn't happen. i'm still losing weight. this month i lost about 5lbs. that's slower than my old average of 1.5-2lbs a month but i am extremely close to my goal and getting too lean to lose weight that fast anyway. the main difference, as i said, is that my metabolism is going crazy. i can eat more food during the week when i'm working and then eat very close to sedentary TDEE (minus 500) on the weekends, and i still lose the same amount of weight as i did when i cut a lot more calories. it seems like my metabolism stays high on the weekend and i burn more fat during that time. there's another difference though- the plateaus and water retention has gotten worse. it's more difficult to measure my exact weight now. just today i experienced one hell of a whoosh after a week of wondering why the number on the scale wasn't going down. stay strong, fatties! you can achieve your goals too you just need to stick with it. i've been intentionally losing weight since february and i am down 44lbs since then. i'm just 6lbs from my goal weight.
>>76552991>1000 hours a weekI mean are you a schizo or is this chat gpt?
went out to eat with family. i brought a food box with me and stored half the food i ordered. nobody said anything which is nice of them.I think i ate my daily cal in that meal so i wont eat dinner. and now i have tomorrows food ready as well.>>76552950ditto, i just ate when i was bored/out of habit.
1200 cal supper fuck my worthless fatcel life
So why don't you guys like keto? I have about 10kg to lose and I'm tempted to give it a try for three months or so to see if the mental clarity benefits are legit. Losing weight has given me ten times the energy but I'm still tired of the post-lunch energy crashes and feeling exhausted each night.
>>76553014People don't like keto because its associated with mentally ill freaks shitting up threadsIts a decent weightloss tool if it works for you as it helps reducing calorie intake through satiety and possibly helps by increasing fat metabolism
>>76553014All the tastiest things are made of carbs plus fiber is carbs
>>76553014you're free to give it a try it's mostly that in the end no matter how you cut it it's all CICO.That said everyone's metabolism reacts differently to different stuff. So it's a possibility that your body doesnt handle carbs well, but on the contrary maybe your body handles carbs well and keto isnt gonna do shit.What people dont like is a single retard shitting threads up with bullshit allegations.
so hungry...
>>76544699>350lb attempting to walk 200 miles in August.Days 24, 25 & 26 complete. Currently sitting at 177 miles.My average has dropped to <5 per day. Good thing to, my ankle is starting to stiffen at mile 5. I've booked a doctors appointment for next week to confirm nothing serious.The T-Bone was so good. Made me feel human. I hit maintenance that day, but I am very happy that I did it. It gave me the motivation to make these last few days.We are finishing this thing together at work as a team by taking a walk around a country park on Sunday, followed by a team meal that boss man is stumping for. I don't plan to eat that much (certainly still at a deficit), but I might get myself a decent meal/no dessert.This has been a crazy month and now that I am nearing the end, I am so glad I did this. IAGMI.
>>76552926>I'm finally losing weight againGud job anon! I believe in you.
>>76551993>What did you eatMcDonalds's double cheeseburger, 3 nuggets, medium fries, medium iced lemonade, McFlurry and 73 KFC Popcorn chicken.I would have replied sooner, but I've been on the toilet all day because of this.
>>7655305773??
>>76553014its fine, i've read alot of scientific reports on keto lately where the participants have lost weight and felt less hungry, and they recommend 1400-1600 calories a day where less than 20% of the calories come from carbs.this seems like the type of diet most of us follow anyway
>>76553005it's a playful exaggeration for comedic effect. i also don't want to give up too much anonymity so i'm not being too specific. i'm just a vague lean-looking blur.
>>76553066They are currently doing a bucket of them for 5.99 and I wanted to try it...
>>76553086That popcorn chicken alone is over 3k calories
Why would anyone bother with CICO when the results are so bad?
i think i should go down to 1500 calories, 2000 seems too much even on days I go to the gym
>>76553114this meme doesn’t work if the guy doing cico was only on a small deficit, didnt track things by weight, and only stuck to it for a month maximum.cico works just fine, the only time it "doesn’t work" is when the person doing it, is simply doing it wrong.
>>76553091>That popcorn chicken alone is over 3k caloriesIt was delicious though, but I did feel a bit of a fat fuck sitting in a KFC shovelling handfuls of popcorn chicken in to my mouth.It will be ok. I am not planning on buying any more fast food any time soon.
I worked out for the first time in months yesterday for no more than 30 minutes, breaks inbetween sets included, so it was basically nothing at all and yet my arms are already sore as hell. why must i receive more pain than gains, this lifting stuff feels like scam.
>>76553125CICO never works, ever. People who do CICO always end up back at their starting weight after 2 years unless they stumble blindly into doing low-carb because they think things like sugar are "empty calories".
>>76553148Yet again, human error, not the fault of cico.
>>76553148There are countless;Millions upon millions of successes on CICO
>>76553042hey fat umaru anon. My coworker is such a try hard. He always bugs me and asks when I am going to complete the task he gave me 1 hour ago and it usually takes 8 hours to complete. This fucking asshole is driving me insane. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU KEEP PINGING ME ON TEAMSAnyone else deal with this and have to stress eat?
>>76552950I still go into the kitchen when I'm bored just to look at my empty pantries. My fat brain will likely never fully go away but at least I know how to deal with it.
I see schizo hour has arrived
>general hits bump limit multiple times a dayThere is no way you fat lardfucks are actually losing weight when you spend every waking moment posting in this general.
>>76553043This journey has been exciting to follow!
>>76553043Great job anon. Keep up the good work. I am rooting for you.Only 23 miles to go. You can do this.
>>76553147https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_onset_muscle_soreness
>>76553057>McDonalds's double cheeseburger, 3 nuggets, medium fries, medium iced lemonade, McFlurry and 73 KFC Popcorn chicken.How in the actual fuck does one human consume that much food in the fucking morning?What are you, 500lbs???
>>76553169Human error is falling for the CICO lie in the first place. Perfectly executed CICO doesn't work because it's unscientific biology-denying nonsense.
>>76552950eat 1 - 2 meals a day in a 6 hour interval, then fast for 18.it will shrink your stomach, making each meal fell much more filling. it will also allow your body time to properly digest the food and restore your metabolism to balance. Obesity isn't cause by the volume of the food, but by the frequency of consumption
>>76553218Weird how it's worked every single time.
>>76553014I don't have diabetes so eating carbs fills me up.
>>76553218Putting aside that what you're saying is a straw man if you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't be in the fat loss general spamming this endlessly.
>>76553188What does posting have to do with intaking too much food?
>>76553188>The irony of posting in this general while critiquing other people posting in this general.
>>76553218People who have 250 extra lbs to lose have mental issues that cause their disordered eating. Putting them on TV and having a bunch of producers do everything they can to make the person lose weight is not sustainable, they go back to their original way of life and that's why their CICO diet fails.
>>76553229You're responding to a graph that shows CICO doesn't work, ever.
>>76553243Learn to read. The CICO diet fails because it causes lowered metabolism.
>>76553188If there's no schizoids fighting, the thread hits bump limit ever 2 days or so.Issue is we have multiple schizoids who think their unique approach to losing weight is gospel and can't shut the fuck up about it - the mere concept that someone else may do something else that may work for them is impossible for them.Ketards, CICOcksleeves, ozempigs, sugarbaiters, anything and everything will be discussed, though arguably those 4 are the worst offenders.Part of me hates them for being mentally ill and shitting up the thread, part of me thinks as long as they are debating they can't be eating.
>>76553245Yeah, it doesn't show that, but I'm not going to argue with you.
>wake up, do certain hobby>go to work>return home, do certain hobby while eating>go to gym>return, more certain hobby>sleepcertain hobby is really cutting into my gym hours but I cant give up part way
>>76553253If you didn't see a problem with this, and you were actually happy with this repertoire, you wouldn't be posting it here.Now that that's out in the open, what are you going to do about it?
>>76553251>part of me thinks as long as they are debating they can't be eating.>he doesn't have a 50 oz bag of doritos next to him to duel the other schizo fags
>>76553259I will simply persevere and suffer for 74 more days until I've reached my certain hobby goal, complaining all the way but doing nothing to address the root cause of my frustration.
>>76553218>danny lost 250 pounds>regained 100 back>now his body expends 800 cals less each day
>>76553300800 kcal/day less than expected. So that's after adjusting for his current body weight.
>>76553207300 actually. But it's ok because I lost 3lbs last week.Kinda wanna pizza since day is already ruined.
>>76553399>Kinda wanna pizza since day is already ruined.compromise, buy a slice and fridge it for tomorrow, your reward for not eating it today
>>76553534Based fatty gooner.I mean it states the triggers, if those are satisfied and it doesn't trigger, either reload or you're softlocked.
>finish workout >look in the mirror>only see how wimpy my arms and shoulders aredamn, normally I feel pretty good about myself after but today I'm just not feeling it...>>76553534what game?
>>76553539It distracts me from the hunger
What do you guys think of yogurt cups like this?This one has 9g of carbs which isn't optimal sure but I can tolerate eating it. 170 calories, 25g protein.
>>76553564they would be perfect to eat in the evenings. but i just dont like the shit enough. Very unsatiating for me. id rather use my calories elsewhere
>>76553556Hey I'm not here to judge anon, whatever works for you
Damn, being full after a 500cal meal is such weird sensation
>>76553657GLP-1?
>>76553679Yes2nd injection two days agoIt feels like my stomach shrunk or something, I don’t understand
>>76553731Aren’t u worried of the long term effects?
>>76553733I’m worried about the long term effects of my fatness
>Cheat days cheat only yourselfi only started losing weight long term when i allowed myself to get some slop on the fridays, i think this is bullshit
>>76553738how do you not over eat on the slop?
>>76553792counting the calories? i eat at maintenance or slightly above, a big mac is like 600 kcal
>>76553816U consider that a cheat day? Lol
I have a varied schedule where I mike walk 3k steps or 7k steps, entirely at "random" based on my work. What I've been doing is following the calculator above (at Sedentary, 1500 calories is my daily goal) and then adding extra calories based on what my step tracker says I've burned, is this intended with the Sedentary plan or is this a mistake? t. Just started my plan, so I don't have data to look into yet
>>76553816>a big mac is like 600 kcalhuh I thought it would have been more.Regardless that is about half my calorie take so maybe... Hmm Well I am not sure what I would want on a cheat day. Maybe a croissant? Those shits are like 200-300 calories but they come in a large box of multiple. do I throw out the remainder?
>>76553825You’re not mistaken but there’s also no way to really know how many calories you’ve burned from exercise, especially walking. So be careful when allowing yourself extra calories based on what some app tells you.
>>76553823yeah, too much and my progress for the week is undone, and my maintenance is 2400kcal, i can eat 4 big macs and a large zero kcal soda, other sandwiches are even less
>>76553845Thanks, I had to give it my height and weight and I fiddled with those settings and it did change my "calories burned", but I'll remember that.I think I'll just halve whatever it tells me, just to be on the safer side.
>>76553844if you're eating that low, maybe it's not a good idea not to
>>76553868>if you're eating that low, maybe it's not a good idea not tothen what slop CAN i eat? It's not like 1 day of not eating 1g per lb of protein won't hurt right? Or do you still hit your protein goals on slop days?
>>76553872bro i have real low willpower, i only managed to do this by not being very restrictive, i eat a lot of protein for satiety, not for any particular goal, you probably have more willpower than me
>>76553844>do I throw out the remainder?thats a waste of foodsoak them in egg, cook, and eat one for each meal. thats about 1200
>>76553890>bro i have real low willpowerso do I >i eat a lot of protein for satiety, not for any particular goalso you got completely balls to the walls over like 200+grams of protein just because? I have low willpower too, just finished throwing out the majority of my slop from home. Can I cuddle with you?
>>76553891>soak them in egg, cook, and eat one for each meal. thats about 1200>1200
>>76553896total, like a 300 cal croissant soaked in an egg would be about 400,x 3 meals is 1200
>>76553906>total, like a 300 cal croissant soaked in an egg would be about 400,x 3 meals is 1200I guess so. The thing is I don't exactly want 4 of them for a day though. I rather have some milk or something else
>>76553894>so you got completely balls to the walls over like 200+grams of protein just because?i max out at 150 grams usually desu>Can I cuddle with you?sure, come here
>Drink Water>Gain 2.2 lbsThanks I fucking hate it
Infinite calorie burn fitness hack:try getting rid of a tree stump with an axemy body is crying out in pain
>>76553931weigh yourself once a week
>>76553936isn't there a powder you can get that makes them rot?
>>76553114Kys ketoschizo
>>76553936In reality you didn't increase your daily energy expenditure at all. Additive DEE is a figment of calorietard imagination.
>went from pretty consistent weight loss for a couple weeks to this annoying plateau that won’t break How does this shit even happen? I’m eating well under my MBR and doing extremely consistent cardio and weightlifting. Does the human body just retain water to piss you off when you start gaining momentum on your fat burning?
why do carbs fried in fat taste so goodand why does my grandma have to leave a massive tub of taro chips outside on the kitchen counter whenever I visit her hosue
>>76554059for how long, and what calories are you eating
>>76554071Been going on about a week. I’m eating about 1600 calories a day and alternating weightlifting and a 10k run every morning.
The top red pill to grasp is that you can have fat or carb and its okay, the devil is in their mixing.
>>76553924https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JttJh13UaxA
>>76554087you could do one day of 800 if you really really want to see it move. you might just be gaining muscle
>wanted to be fit for a trip I'm taking in the spring>alright, I'll just bulk for a few months and then cut>at the grocery store, splurge and buy myself a bag of those honey dijon kettle chips>the second I've finished inhaling them, trip gets moved up by 5 months>have to lose like 20 lbs. in a 2 monthsWell, shit...I've done 30 lbs. in 3 months on keto, but I wasn't lifting at the time and I'd prefer not to do keto again. This is going to suck.
>guys at work screwing around chatting instead of doing their jobs so I get to leave 20 minutes later than I should have>on way home get stuck behind an asshole car going 10 miles below speed limit so I take a random turn just to get away from them>new route home has a store with Krispy Kreme so I buy some and jam donuts into my face to fill the remaining 700 calories in my daily allowanceNot sure if just eating less by itself is making me irrationally angry at everything or if it's a combination of my meds not adjusting well to my body in taking in less food
i've plateaud and can't get below 16% bodyfat, this fucking sucks and I'm feeling like shit because I haven't made any progress in the last few weeks. Fasting doesn't work because I get so insanely hungry now and can't go beyond 30 hours, I did a 3 day psmf, felt hungry as shit the entire time, and lost like .4 pounds. I know if I keep this up I'll lose the weight eventually, but it's incredibly depressing because I would still need to lose somewhere around 5-6 more pounds to get below 12%, and at this point it's impossible to tell what's actual weight loss or what's water weight since the rate of fat loss has slowed down so much and my weight fluctuates greatly throughout the day.It was so much easier when I was at 20%+ and losing over a pound a week.
>>76554117>medicated>fat>wagie>eating donutsthe perfect goycattle
>>76554143>I did a 3 day psmf, felt hungry as shit the entire time, and lost like .4 pounds.how many cal? you should have lost at least 2 pounds. if you just need 5 to lose try cardio for 2 hours a day and 600cal below maintenance
wtf is psmf
>>76554181>how many calaround 1000 a day>you should have lost at least 2 poundslol>>76554184you eat almost nothing except lean meatmy diet consisted of chicken thighs and tuna cans for 2/3 of the days
>>76552904Me on the left
>>76554189try 600, a hot dog and slice of bread for each meal. if its just 3 days it shouldn't be so bad
>>76554117>new route home has a store with Krispy Kreme so I buy some and jam donutsYou fit it in your calorie allowance, so it'snot the worst thing. But this is peak fatlogic
>>76554181I did a week and had a similar experience, barely lost any weight and was miserable the whole time.
I ate at maintenance today. I will do better tomorrow.
>>76554189chicken thighs are not lean meat
>>76554350check the nutrition facts again
>>76554354Its the fattest piece of the chicken
>>76554360and that means basically nothing because chicken is lean as fuck, calorie for calorie it's leaner than salmon
>>76554360>taking the skin off a drumstick adds protein
>>76554365Yeah its not lean though, I guess it depends on your definition Lean refers to chickenbreast tierWell you're coping anyways so who cares, enjoy your thighs
>>76554372I will, thanksim starting that shit again tomorrow
>>76554366For the same weight. So the weight of the skin is replaced with meat.
>>76554360God damn this fucking piece of shit graphic is pissing me off. When you remove the skin of a chicken thigh the calories don’t change? Lol fuck you
>>76554415>>76554388Reading is hard
>>76554059When you do CICO it lowers your metabolism until you regain all the weight. See: >>76553218
dieting was so much easier when I lived alone because I had 0 junk food in my house. Now I have to live with oreos and chips in the cupboard all the time.
I ate 300 more cals than I should've and now I want to cut my stomach out fucking hell why am I like this
>>76554546Just go for a 30 minute run
>256lb last march>216lb this morningANOTHER 36 POUNDS TILL THE GOALWE'RE OVER HALFWAY THEREI CAN FEEL IT COMING I CAN FEEL IT BROSMY TIME IS NIGH
>>76554535That happened to me too, lost 80lbs on my own, got a girlfriend that keeps lindt chocolate bars in the freezer, if they run out she just buys more and acts like im a hypocrite becuase I eventually break down and eat one.Staying in deficit is so much harder when you have to deal with someone else bringing temptations into your home.
Skipped breakfast, for lunch I snacked on a tiny portion of spicy popcorn chicken while walking around walmart and then stopped at mcdonalds on the way home and got 3 double cheeseburgers. It wasn't a super filling meal but I felt content. When I got home I ate one of the pistachio muffins I had bought out of a 4 pack. I thought I wouldn't eat again and was doing ok. Then I got super hungry in the evening and ended up making sloppy joes with a can of manwich and a pound of ground sausage. I remember thinking to myself that I would just make two and save the other half for tomorrow. Somehow I ended up eating the whole thing. 4 burgers all of them with two slices of pepper jack cheese. Each one was probably 800 calories minimum. After that I ate the other three muffins from earlier. 30 minutes later I was sitting on the toilet shitting my guts out. I don't often think about calories but I had time to kill and was casually adding up what I ate. I was really shocking, I never felt terribly full, I've eaten way worse before and felt worse but I honestly feel like I could eat more but somehow in less than 30 total minutes today I ate between 7 and 8 thousand calories. Then it really fucked me up when I had the thought that to make up for those 30 minutes I would have to fast for 3 whole days. 3 days of misery just to counter out 30 minutes of eating. Not even losing anything just to break even. I know I am a horrible addict but man it just doesn't feel fair, a tiny fuck up and I'm buried in a mountain just to climb back to the starting line. I'm not looking for sympathy or anything, I know I'm a fuck up. Just sharing my misfortune so maybe it can motivate someone else not to make the same mistake.
>>76554546>fucking hell why am I like thisBecause you're eating carbs and restricting calories.You would have better results if you just stopped eating carbs and ate unlimited calories.Pic related.
>>76554571>Then I got super hungry in the eveningCorrection, I never actually felt hungry. My brain just wouldn't stop negging me that I wanted to eat. The intrusive thoughts never stop, from wake to sleep food is on my brain. I barely feel hunger most of the time, but I'm inhuman if I don't feel full.I have no mental illnesses but I feel like I am more mentally ill than the real crazy people. I've been this way as long as I can remember even as a kid. My mom used to wrap a chain around the fridge to stop me from raiding it 24/7.
3 months lose 7 kgs and now I'm stuck at 103kg after a weeks of stress eat, feel bad man.
I'm at the 17x range15 lbs to go
>>76554604im slow what is a 17x range
>>7655461117xlbs
>>76554612Just say 179 pounds, nobody's judging
>>76554631Yeah, honestly 179 is pretty impressive.Good work, keep it up.
chatgpt told me i'd lose at least a whole pound if i stuck to this week's intake plan im hyped
>>76554631Das rite. That was too cryptic>>76554633This is going to be a life long grind. I come to terms that I have to stay hungry for the rest of my life.
>>76554571You got 3 double mcslops for dinner. Grow up.
I've read all the stuff in the /fit/ sticky links and this OP but I'm still having trouble separating weight loss facts that are real vs bullshit. If I'm a fatass and lose weight super quickly by eating at a big caloric deficit is that going to lead to more loose skin than losing weight very slowly?
>>76554568>keep candy in a $5 lock box>only gf has the key>she takes key with her when she's away>while she's at home, the shame hopefully keeps your fat ass from grabbing her keys, opening the box and stuffing your face with goy chowproblem solved.
>>76554698Hahahaha that’s fucking emasculating he’s not her fucking son. Good grief.
>>76554708he has a gf and u dont, so whos really winning here?
>>76554698whats next, does she keep your balls in a cage too?
>>76554687There's an overlap between rapid weight loss and loose skin.It's not really clear if that's due to speed, or diet. People who lose weight quick tend to be at nutrient deficiencies from having a low calorie diet. And nobody knows if a highly nutritious low calorie diet, which causes fast weight loss has the same amount of chance to develop loose skin.
>>76554698This seems like a fetish thingFood-dom
>>76554583Yeah carbs are a drug. If you quit them for a few days the addiction will diminish.
>>76554687CICO causes loose skin. If you want to avoid loose skin do unlimited calorie carnivore.
Potato with butter and slaw for lunch, stirfry lamb, rice and beans for dinner. Didnt count macros but will start doing that soon. Just need to start cutting out things one by one is how I will win
165.4kg to 162.6kg (week).Feeeling Goooood on a Wednesday!
>3kg down>37 to goSo slow...
>>76554812Did you get a foot amputated or something?
>>76554708>Hahahaha that’s fucking emasculatingAnd being a fat manchild who can't stop stuffing his chubby face with Lindt chocolate bars isn't?A combo lockbox for which only she knows the combination would be less awkward btw.
>>76554687there have been no proper scientific studies on loose skin as far as I know, so nobody actually knows.
>shethis is a gay board, we do Männerbunds here, not some cringe vaginal "relationships"
>lose 8 week log>get assblasted>false report competition>time the ban so it cant be appealed before weekly tally>enjoy 1 week advantage
>>76554698I don't understand. Can't you just go buy more?The real way to solve the problem is to grow up and realize you're a grown ass man buying fucking candy bars.
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 107.45gOverall progress:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyMotivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwVBirqD2sSo who do you think dished the false ban? Makima avatarfag or keto schizo?
Been maintaining my weight loss for awhile now. Going to make another push to lose weight. Probably going to cut for a few weeks and then aim to maintain again. At 35" waist this morning.
>>76554889>Can't you just go buy more?didn't you read his post? It's his gf that buys them, not him.
it’s now 5PM of day 3 of Nofap which is probably the longest I’ve gone in over a year, and hitting day 5 would be my longest in over 10 years. I’m hoping that not masturbating will help somehow fix my brains reward system which may then help me with my overeating
>>76553147DOMS will only haunt you for a week or two at most then it pretty much stops happening unless you go all out.
>>76553564i like the dannon light variety of yogurt. it tastes the same and it's only like 70 calories.
>>76554117next time you get the urge to eat krispy creme donuts, just eat an entire watermelon instead.
>>76554571here's what you do-1. make the burgers yourself instead of buying them from mcdicks, use those little thin buns instead of a regular bun, use mustard instead of mayo and ketchup, and then load that fucker up with onions, lettuce, tomato, and pickles (hardmode: no cheese)2. sloppy joes are fine, but use lean ground turkey instead of sausage and just use one piece of regular white bread instead of a giant hamburger bun 3. no muffins! if you want something sweet eat an entire watermelon. now compare the calories in an entire watermelon with how many you ate from just those four muffins. 4. very important- you don't have to 'make up' for those calories by fasting for three days. don't do that. just get back on the horse and do a better job next time. i'll tell you a secret- your body probably wasn't able to absorb all of those calories. in all likelihood you will just shit out a bunch of them without ever storing them as fat. this is particularly true with meats for some reason. work on your food choice. instead of starving yourself- eat a whole bunch of something that is satisfying AND low calorie- like roasted chicken or tuna. WAGMI
>trying to lose weight>lil sis starts doing baking>she's like insanely good, better than any shop or bakery>only does like cookies and sweetsWhy do you have to do me like this?...
I think I'm going to try the meal replacement drink diet for like a week. I fucked up my tooth and I can't even eat solid food until I go to the dentist anyway so might as well. Two of those drinks and a protein shake is low calories, good macros and costs the same I'd spend on real food.
>>76555067soup time. Healthy and full of vitamins and tasty
>>76555071but you still have to cook it and buy ingredients for it which makes the time spend thinking about food way higher than I want it to be
>>76555076Yes but then you get to eat delicious soup you made. You can get all the macros you want and need and it'll always be way healthier than any meal replacement diarhea would be.
>>76553913He's not saying eat them all on the same day. The egg soak and cooking is to prevent them from going stale and necessitating you throwing them out.
Anyone else find it easier to eat nothing at all for a day rather than a small amount of food?
>>76554117No offense, but you're just sort of looking for reasons to binge and then using those reasons to justify it. You're using charged language like "jam donuts into my face", That's unhealthy.
>>76555090Definitely. I also have this issue where if I eat lunch or not I just eat the same amount of food at dinner regardless so I just end up doing OMAD and it works wonders.
>>76554365Comparative analysis is not a valid means of definition. It's a fatty meat. It just happens to be leaner than something that is fattier. That's like saying going 120mph down a stretch of road in a sports car isn't fast because a plane is faster.
>>76554571You have a binge eating disorder, dude. I would seriously seek some psychiatric help. I'm not saying this to mock you, but you need to get to the bottom of this before it destroys you.
I just want to say to everybody in this thread good job not replying to the guy who constantly spams charts and images saying you can eat unlimited low-carb foods And that CICO doesn't work.
>Weigh-in day.Scale go down by 3lb for the 11th week in a row.Life is good :)
>don't eat all day 'cause mum is doing giant t-bones and scalloped potatoes for din dinsMight skip the potatoes, but dang are they tempting.
>10k steps doneIt was raining but that didn't stop me
>>76555158>Scale go down by 3lb for the 11th week in a row.>>76555237>It was raining but that didn't stop meGood job anons. Keep going. WAGMI.
anyone tried copper peptide cream for loose skin?
>>76555237Rainy walks are the best, why would you let rain stop you?Its really comfy when you've got a nice rain jacket and boots, the sound of rain pattering on your head, earbuds playing a podcast, music, or audiobook, and you're nice and dry and cool, impervious to the outside weather.Beats the hell out of sweating your fat ass off in the sun.
>>76555065serves you right for saying "like" in every sentence
When does Ozempic start working? 4 weeks of 0.25 and I binged cookies and flatbread yesterday
>>76555297Fat tits is imune to Ozempig
>>76555282Not that Anon but I feel way warmer and sweatier in a rain jacket than walking in the sun.
>>76555297For me?Like an hour after injecting it.
>>76555099I think we just need to establish what we mean by "Lean", because as you said "Lean" is a relative term. it can mean different things for different people depending on their goals. You need some fat in your diet, usually its not advisable to go under 35~50g a day to keep your hormones in check so I'd say lean is anything that can get you to your protein goals while staying under that limit, but your definition may vary.If you're trying to get 150g of protein you can go the pure whey powder route and get there in about 10g of fat, that's about as "Lean" as it gets.Boneless skinless chicken breast will get you to 150g of protein with about 20g of fat, double the powder's rate but still definitely "Lean" by my reckoning.Skinless chicken thighs will get you to 150g in about 40g of fat, which is roughly double again ,but for me is still falls in the "Lean" range.Double that again and we're at Beef Sirloin which will get you to 150g in about 80g of fat, and no longer what I'd consider "Lean".Then we roughly double that again and you'll get something like Pork Ribs, they'll get you to 150g of protein at the cost of 200g of fat which is about as far from "Lean" as you can get.So how do we want to define "Lean" I think it has something to do with the Protein/Fat ratio and where we want to draw that line. I'd suggest defining it as anything with a 3g protein per 1g fat ratio or better is "Lean" and anything over that isn't, but you might have a better definition and I'd like to hear it.
>>76555337I didn't read your post. Nothing I said was incorrect, and I pointed out the fallacy by which you were using to measure metrics.
>>76555345Cool, glad we agree.
>>76555310When its sunny here its like 90°F and 80+ humidity with oppressivly stagnant air, but only like 75°F when it rains, and if it rains awhile the humidity starts to drop, and with the rain tends to come gusts of wind which makes things feel so much cooler. So I guess it really depends on your local weather how nice Rainy walks are. For me they're quite nice and I really enjoy how rainy its been lately.
What made you start losing weight, /fat/I started hanging out with a friend more often and we're clicking shockingly well, but I realized i can't ask them out if I'm a tubby slob. Even if it doesn't work out with them I'm still doing it for myself, that was just a point of realization of how fucked I looked.
>>76555166I ate some of the potatoes, but I think I should be fine.Back to the meatballs tomorrow.
>>76555458>What made you start losing weight, /fat/Saw my brother who was also fat out whole life getting thinner and fitter, I'm a creature of pure spite and seething jealously fuels me.Also my girlfriend is great and deserves to see at my best.
>put on 2.5lbs this week>exact same meal plan that had me losing 1lb/week for a month, slightly less carbs and total calories even>much weaker lifts this week with weights that weren't a problem before>sweating x4what the fuuuuuck
deficit reduction rebloat plateau continuing for the fifth dayI will trust the planI will trust the planI will trust the plan
>>76555458I saw pics of me dancing at a party a while back. I was shirtless and you could clearly see my gut and tits flabbing about in the wind and thought "no fucking shit women arent attracted to me" and got on it.
wake me up inside
>>76555588Eat less
>>76555595thanks for the tip man
Anybody got a good morning stretch routine for fat fucks?
>>76555440Yeah I suppose. It's relatively dry here so anytime it rains, it actually gets more humid, and the heat doesn't really go away. Sure it's just like 80°F or so maybe, but going from 80 dry to 80 humid isn't very agreeable if you're moving a lot.>>76555458Bad depressive bit where I started eating less, and then I guess I never started eating more again.Also nice hot guy I knew was maybe not /fit/ fit but still very active and I knew we'd be walking a lot where we'd meet so I had to get in shape a bit. Won't be meeting for a while since we live on different continents so rip kill me.
>>76555458Want a qt gf, realised no qt gf will want me when I'm the size of a planet.
>>76555458I got tired of being fat. I've been like 250lb for 10 years. I can't go anywhere without looking like a fat piece of shit. And so I decided to stop being.
having a more reasonable 650 calorie breakfast this morning, how are you guys
>>76555458peeing a lot and getting anxious that I probably have diabetes.
>>76555086bro have you ever had old croissants? It gives me the shits, probably because the oil got rancid fuck it i'll just throw it out 3 of them and just eat one.
>>76555458>What made you start losing weight, /fat/doctor said I had to
>>76555458I want to be a thin and lithe ethereal twink but even if it doesn't work not being a fat pos would be cool
>>76555458several reasons:>general health>I hate looking fat, especially when I was lean as hell in college>I hate FEELING fat>I don't want to subject others to something disgusting that I can completely control>it's also about personal responsibility and respect for myself, which is probably the most important reason>nobody likes fat people on a subliminal level, and in general, people treat you better if you're in shapeit jut hit me one day a few months ago and I was like "damn dude I really let myself go, I gotta make some changes" so I've been slowly trying to do better. it's working, albeit slowly. it's a process
>>76555674Not relevant to my point.
>>76555698>Not relevant to my point.I will fucking kiss you
>>76555702Ok
>>76555704>Okare you the ok anon from yesterday?I love u
Please give me your best options for a carb-loaded breakfast to eat 1-1.5 hours before working out in the morning. I'm getting tired of overnight oats.
>>76555718bread/fruit + cottagecheese/peanut butter
>>76555726Mmm, peanut butter. Been ages since I've had any. Love the stuff, but it gives like no satiety for how calorically dense it is.
>>76555707Ok
>>76555718Baked potato with fried eggs on top. Tastes great with either sweet potato or white.
>>76555737>OkCOME HERE U CUTIE I HAD A DREAM WE CUDDLED AND I ACCIDENTALLY STUCK MY TONGUE IN YOUR MOUTH
>>76555743can love truly bloom on the battlefield...?
>>76555746>can love truly bloom on the battlefield...?yes it can as we are both fatties trying our best so it's important to give each other morale support to help us perform at peak performance.
>>76555746more like fattlefield LMAO
>>76555458turned 30 last year
>>76555527these plans cannot be measured in days
>>76555527That's not even a week, only weigh yourself every week or else you'll become neurotic over your weight
/fat/I fucked up and slept terribly last night. I feel so exhausted at the wage cage.
>>76555458Seemingly out of nowhere I got really depressed. I'd been a content NEET for my entire adult life, an unpaid caregiver for my disabled family members, but at 34 a switch flipped in my head and suddenly 'living the dream' wasn't so great anymore, all the things I used to enjoy (anime/vidya/gunpla/ect) didn't make me happy anymore. I couldn't sleep at night. I didn't have any appetite. I was close to 400lbs so not eating wasn't doing any harm. Those sleepless nights turn into midnight walks, my dog loved them so I made it a habit. The lack of appetite went from unhealthy lengthy and aimless fasting to a more structured diet once I found this general. Then losing weight became my focus, just something to occupy my mind with to get my thoughts off endless recollections of missed opportunities and self loathing. Still got some weight to lose, but pretty much everyone who sees me says I look great now and I've lost a ton of weight (they don't see all the loose skin). People randomly stop me to ask me how I did it, ask what my exercise routine is, tips on lifting and dieting, that kinda shit. Still feel kinda depressed and moody but its better than it was before losing the weight, tried to get back into some vidya but I always bounce off it long before finishing anything, I consistently find myself starting something spending like 30 minutes fucking around, getting bored, dropping it with the intent of picking it back up, but never actually playing it again. Lifting and losing weight has become my hobby. I've somehow become even more boring than I was before.
I wish I could get up at like 5-6 in the morning, have a shower, make breakfast and watch the sunrise through the kitchen window, then enjoy the cool, crisp air on my walk to the gym, but I always end up sleeping terribly and I'm lucky if I can wake up before 11
>>76555808hey anon u sound a lot like me. I am not really in a better spot but more so I have a goal in mind.maybe you need a goal too.but you sound cute
How do I start? My wife wakes me up for everything and my cortisol is so high for no reason
>>76555833>My wife wakes me up for everything and my cortisol is so high for no reasonwhy the hell is she waking you up for no reason?Is she asking you to make breakfast or something?
>>76554687If only there was a specific link in the OP that talked specifically about weightloss side effects.Literally quoted from that link:Skin retracting and going back to (more) normal takes time. Despite seeing the claim that loosing skin too quickly can cause more loose skin I have not been able to find any studies supporting this. That being said, loosing weight very quickly means the skin had less time to do its work. Obviously a person that lost some weight over some time looks better (as in has less loose skin) than a person that lost the same amount of weight over half the time, which is what I assume caused the saying. If you have any proof one way or the other, feel free to suggest it, it's greatly appreciated.The thing to thus keep in mind is that skin going back takes time. If you lose your weight fast you should wait a good amount of time to give your skin time to retract before making any rash decisions like going and getting surgery. Give it time.
>>76555833>How do I start?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).
>>76555838The smallest of reasons anon
I'm over here stroking my [rowing machine] I got [sweat] on my [rowing machine] right now. I'm [sweaty] as fuck man I'm a freak man like for real.
>>76555852>The smallest of reasons anonGive me an example. If it's let the dog out before you go to sleep or something like that just do it before you go to bed.Stop being so secretive and you need to sit down with her and tell her you are so tired from getting waken up. Tell her only to wake u up if you are dying or an intruder is in the house
>>76555852It's your motherfucking wife anon, talk to her.I BEG YOU.COMMUNICATE.
>>76555833step 1: get an air fryerstep 2: learn how to cook chicken breast and broccoli in the air fryerstep 3: DO NOT EAT THE DONUTstep 4: profit
I have a splitting fucking headache right now, I can like feel it in my teeth, I'm gonna take a day off from the gym today
>>76555880>excusesNGMI
>>76554568My 2 cents is that you have to put your foot down. Literally tell her that there is not gonna be chocolate in your home and she can fuck off if she can’t deal with that. Obesity and food addiction are not a joke. It’s no different from if you were an alcoholic and she is bringing home bottles of wine. If you strongly but lovingly lay down the law and show a willingness to lose her that is ultimately alpha and she will probably respect you more for it if she still likes you enough to deal with it. If she breaks up with you and tells everyone about her “psycho ex who wouldn’t let her have chocolate” then fuck her she wasn’t the one anyway. If a girl really loves you she will put up with a hell of a lot more than a no junk food rule
>>76555880feel better anon. I had to wake up extra early for work but I'm still gonna tough it outa little nap doesn't hurt either
>>76555891alright fine fuck it ill go take an ibuprofen and get dressed
>>76554887lol wtf?
Fatty ContestHealthy2026353.4
Alright, so, ive been doing alright since i sarted my diet, ive lost about 30 lbs.But in recent months ive started focusing on hitting my protein goals, which has forced me to increase calories, since i cannot go super low cal AND hit 1g per lean lbs muscle.i was losing weight pretty consistently at 800 a day, but since then im reaching 1400 to 1800 a day just to meet my protein goals, and im barely seeing progress at this rate. do i give up on meeting protein goals in order to eat low cal, or should i cut even more corners, eliminate more carbs/fats ie no cheese no bread, just meat and veg?
>>76555951Depends on what your goal is anon.If you want to lose weight somewhat faster, lower caloric intake. If maintaining muscle is more important to you, keep at it.Just keep in mind that building muscle while in a deficit is doable, but a lot harder, so you kind of have to pick a lane.
>>76555951Check your math and shit. You can do .8g of protein per pound of LBM at your target. So if you want to some day be 210 pounds at 10% bodyfat, thats like 190 pounds LBM and thats like 150 grams of protein. I realize 210 lean is super ambitious for most fags in here I am kind of implying that 150 is the most you will ever need to eat.
>>76555853Stop it man
>>76556018NTA but how do I figure out a target? I've never been thin as an adult and I assume LBM is limited by genetics.
You know people throw out all these calculators and shit but a diet with a 1500 calorie limit where you get a minimum of 100~150g of protein and 30~50g fat a day with the rest at your discretion is going to work for like 95% of people. The only guys this won't work for at like dude shorter than 5'2" or taller than 6'4".You don't need to recalculate your TDEE or get a DEXA scan to figure out your body fat percentage, just eat 1500 calories until you're not fat, hit your protein and fat target, and you're good.
I swear this shit fluctuated too much in 1 week
>>76555065buy a freezer tupperware, wrap her baked goods in plastic and put it in the freezer tupperware, use it as motivation to lose weight because you can eat all these baked goods you're saving when you're done.>>76555297have you lost weight atleast?
>>76556051I've said it many many times and I'll say it again, don't weigh yourself daily, it can be demotivating, your weight can fluctuate wildly based on an innumerable amount of factors including your hydration status, the air pressure, your mood, how much sleep you've gotten, the amount of carbohydrates or sodium you ate the day before. Just weigh yourself once a week and average it out, that's the most reliable and sane method.
>>76556061>>76556059since you deleted and reposted
>>76556042Well something like my example is going to probably be above the "natty limit" for most of the cucks here who don't have elite genes. So you cant go wrong with 150 g protein. Other than that you are just going to have to do some guesswork about what weight you want to be and shit. Loose skin might be a factor, or your face starting to look too gaunt. Not everyone needs to get all the way down to an optimal BMI, in my opinion.
>>76556053trvke
>>76556053This logic only works if you sit around all day.
>>76556053Honestly dude, if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't be in this general. I think people should go ahead and not just take blanket advice like this.
>>76556080>dude I'm so active I need so many more caloriesyou don't, this is why you're fat.
>>76556088Feel free to post your body with a timestamp so we know that we can reliably take your advice.
>>76556088I'm 24 bmi now and nearing my goal. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel.
>>76556053Why does fat matter? I eat chicken, sardines, and 1-2 eggs daily but according to the app I'm under 20g fat daily
>>76556085idk, i was reading the calorie breakdowns of some of the studies keto schozo posts and the protein they were eating was surprisingly low, like 400 of their daily calories was coming from protein.
>>76556053If you can't spend 2 minutes to calculate your TDEE and plan your deficit then you probably can't even count calories, much less macronutrients.
>>76556100Nothing you just said has anything to do with my post.
>>76556085I will not take your blanket advice then since you dont know what you're talking about
>>76555090Yeah that's caused by eating carbs. Everyone experiences it. Pic related.
>>76556098If you get under 10g of fat a day you're risking gallstonesIf you get under 30g of fat a day fat soluable vitamins (A, D, E, and K) will be difficult for your body to absorbIf you get under 40g of fat a day your body may struggle to synthesize sex hormones (testosterone, estrogen)
>>76556117Sure is a good thing I didn't give any blanket advice then.
>>76555588>>76555601I warned you about CICO, bro. Calorie restriction while eating carbs always causes weight regain due to lowered metabolism.
>>76556121Your blanket advice was to not take blanket advice
>>76556041You don't get it anon, I love stroking my [rowing machine].
>>76555090Depends on the food, but yes.
>>76556121Only a sith deals in absolutes. (he said absolutely)
>>76556137No, he didn't, but ok
>>76556137The average sith may or may not invoke absolute-related language than the median jedi within a given confidence interval just doesn't have the same ring to it.
>>76556143
>>76556120>If you get under 40g of fat a day your body may struggle to synthesize sex hormones (testosterone, estrogen)are you sure that is a blanket statement for everyone or does it change based on size and weight?
Tossed a bunch of my old clothes that are way too big for me now. Shitload of 5XL shirts that just look like fucking hospital gowns now. It's harrowing that I ever got that bloated but nice that I'm fixing that.
>>76556157Not only that but the numbers are completely made up
I over ate horrendously in the morning and took massive shots to the head. I cant focus at all. What do now bros?
>>76556165Congratulations anon, genuinely.
Pls don't bully me guys. I gotta clogged heart and a fatty liver yet I still cant break it. How do you do you not get discouraged?
>>76556157>or does it change based on size and weight?NTA, but this one. How much fat you need in your diet is going to depend on how much you weigh.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33741447/
>>76556172>Took massive shots to the head.??
>>76556157>>76556169ChatGPT agrees that you need 40g-60g minimum daily
>>76556199>ChatGPT agrees that you need 40g-60g minimum dailychatgpt doesn't know shit
>>76556202I trust it know what its talking about more than I trust you to.
>>76556172are you drinking in the morning?
>>76555951You don't have to limit protein. Just eat unlimited protein. Hypercaloric protein diets don't cause gain of body fat.
>>76556199This shit isn't difficult, you don't need AI, just plug your weight in and do some basic multiplication.
>>76556207for mma fightersi dont think you should be eating the same diet as competing athletes
Last 2 digits is how many pushups you have to do!WAGMI
>>76556218sure why not
>>76556199ChatGPT will also agree that there are healthy populations that lived on less than 10% calories from fat per dayThere is actually no such thing as a fat deficiency
>>76556227chatgpt is coded by jeets and thinks india is a healthy population
>>76556218WHHATCHU MEAN ME? IT"S U THAT HAS TO DO IT U FATTY
>>76556233Yeah, my point is chatgpt is uselessAlso jeets eat a shitton of oil which is why they're all skinnyfat
>>76556118>EveryoneOnly for diabetics or pre-diabetics. Otherwise your insulin response isn't as intense and you don't get hungry.
>>76556199>ChatGPT
>>76556207Multiple variable studies are useless.
>>76556178Positive reinforcement
>>76556199>ChatGPT agrees that you need 40g-60g minimum dailyoh yeah, well I asked my magic 8-ball and it said "NO WAY". what now, pal?
>>76556186I fight randos during dawn>>76556206Ofc I get very thirsty when I awaken
>>76556243>Also jeets eat a shitton of oilindia has one of the lowest saturated fat consumption rates in the world, but go off I guess
>>76556276>india has one of the lowest saturated fat consumption rates in the world, but go off I guessexactly why they don't have shit ton of visceral fat but subcutaneous fat.
>>76556276Are you stupid, that map confirms what I saidThey eat a shitton of oil, which is polyunsaturated fatLook at the map retard
>>76556289the map shows that they eat barely any saturated fat and low amounts of polyunsaturated fat tooit's literally an entire country of shitskins doing a HCLF diet
>>76556178>How do you do you not get discouragedIt's actually the starting that's the hardest, once you've got the momentum in my experience it gets much easier.Be realistic about what's sustainable, be honest with yourself about what you can and can't do, and use every reinforcement technique under the sun to shape your behavior. Losing weight can be fairly easy if you create the right conditions, and it can take inhuman mental fortitude if you don't.
>>76556293Ah right I confused chinks with jeets, guess I'm retarded
>>76556272drinking alcohol in the morning is something alcoholics do anon. that's not good. not to mention alcohol has a ton of calories in it
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>>76556247It happens to everyone, even healthy people. Eating carbs is what caused the obesity epidemic.
>>76556222Good luck!>>76556239Of course! I also participate.
>>76553218Mr. Keto, what is your stance of cottage cheese and Greek yogurt? I east them regularly because they are high in protein. They both have carbohydrates but usually not a lot compared to the amount of protein and fat. Are they keto approved?
>>76557122Both are good. I choose the higher fat versions of them whenever possible. Instead of greek yogurt I eat a water buffalo yogurt myself with 8% milkfat. When I eat cottage cheese I have it homemade from 3.8% milk and then I eat it from a bowl with cream poured over the cheese so the total mf% is probably ~10%.
>>76557220Generally speaking what % of a foods macros should be carbs on the keto diet?
>>76557304I wouldn't worry about it. Just lower carbs until you aren't experiencing hunger and you're shedding body fat or maintaining leanness once you reach your goal weight.If you have to actually measure and track your food then your diet is probably unsustainable and won't work.I prefer to be at nearly zero carb most of the time. Zero carb food is delicious (e.g. bacon, eggs, butter, cheese, steak). I eat carbs sometimes as a treat. I also don't worry about low-carb dairy like yogurt without added sugar and unaged cheeses like mozarella or cottage cheese.
>>76554061Why can't you just have self control?