>Who is /fat/ for?For obstinately obese working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Previous thread: >>76552904
>>76556182Fuck these nigger scientists why cant I read the full meta analysis>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960076021000716They only let you have snippets
Get to moving that blubber you lazy fucks, if I can do it with a disability, then you can do it.
Going to the gym made me feel way more good than my headache made me feel bad
>>76556309REMINDER: People who want you to eat carbs and count calories are liars and swindlers.
The only moments in my life where I'm not miserable are when I'm stuffing my fat face. How do I find something else that makes me happy?
Remember to just stand up all day if you are able to rather than sitting on your fat ass.It is literally free calories burnt and good for your health.
>>76556338standing will not increase your calories burnt
This guy has been having a schizo metldown for like 3 straight days now
>>76556339yes it will dumbass, your body engages more muscles to keep you standing
>>76556338The job I've been working the last 8 years has had me on my feet for 6-8 hours a day a few days a week, it's probably the only thing that's kept my weight from completely ballooning
>>76556345An insignificant amountThe act of standing is completely supported by just locked out joints
>>76556355what if I keep my knees bent
>>76556363I just tried, kinda hard to keep up for extended periodsYou actively have to think about it because if you get distracted by work/browsing/whatever your body naturally slips back to locking out joints
Does being fat make you stupid? I feel smarter the thinner i become.
>>76556331have you tried vidya
>>76556387it lowers testosterone, which is linked with intelligence
>>76556392Can I kiss you, I think that may be a happy moment for me. vidya sounds too boring so I need something to distract myself from food
>>76556410get a dog or cat then
>>76556410Going to the gym has distracted me from vidya, I've hardly touched my steam library this week. Maybe it will distract you from food?
>>76556392I can't get myself to play for more than a couple of hours these days. Working out makes me miserable. Every other hobby I've tried is just more numbness.
>ease up the deficit>stop being permanently tired>go back to being permanently angry and hornythere's just no winning in this gay life
>>76556416No I want to to exercise our tongues together.>>76556418well it can satisfy me for an hour or two but what about the rest of the day? I need something more like anon over there
>>76556456You can do that with a dog, I won't judge.
>>76556327drink more water at the gym
>>76556327glad you got out there. good shit
>>76556473>You can do that with a dog, I won't judge.*ties you up and drags you in my room**playfully licks your tongue*anon this is a good way to lose weight for the both of us using low impact cardio.
first time I ate more than I was supposed to since I started my diettomorrow I will be stronger
>>76556482got a new 1 litre bottle, brought that with me today and finished it>>76556456idk I go to the gym for 50 minutes to an hour a day and I just have no desire to play vidya at all, maybe I'll end up breaking that streak today but I find it helps. In any case going to the gym would at least allow you to eat some of your food without guilt
I'm 5'9 330 pounds, 2000-2500 feels like a lot of calories now that I'm on zepbound. It's not really damaging to eat ~1500-1700 calories is it? Especially if I'm eating high protein and not junk food
>>76556562Don't force yourself to meet your calorie limit for the day if you can help it
>>76556489Probably just caffeine withdrawal anyway, I usually have an energy drink a day but I didn't today or yesterday
>>76556562its not damaging
>>76556562I was 343lbs and i lost 110lbs on Mounjaro. I ate like 1500kcals a day for 8 months.
Fatty ContestSuomixar524.2 lbsGot these from Costco, they're quite good
>>76556562you're like 200 lb overweightyou could eat nothing and still be fine
>>76556654Seems like lots of food nowadays love to advertise their protein amounts, make sure to always read the back and fit it into your calorie budget
>>76556654ur hand does not look like it belongs to a 524 pound man
so hungry...
>>76556676Ate a yummy burrito no longer hungy
>>76556676>>76556690U FAT UMARU ANON
>>76556654>they're quite goodNo they aren't.You've really got to stop eating carbs.
>>76556699im not umaru anon i just wanted to eat a burrito
>>76556701WHY THE FUCK DOES HE NOT LIKE CARBS? WHY IS THE SNOZ DOCTOR A KETOTARD?
>trusting the advice of a TV doctorBleak.
>>76556654>10g fat>39g net carbs>30g proteinThis is a terrible thing to eat for anyone trying to lose weight. Way too many carbs. Not enough dietary fat.
>>76556720Carbs are fattening. Fat and protein are slimming.The most successful weight loss strategy by far is low-carb. Nothing else can compete with it.
>>76556328Ketoschizo alert
>>76556737Eh it doesn't seem to be the worst thing in the world, if eating carbs is going to keep you in a calorie deficit then that's all that matters
>>76556701Average ketolard body
>>76556737it's not bad at all. No random chemical ingredients. Honestly I am considering getting it since it will fit in my deficit just for at least one meal or 2
>>76556776Eating carbs doesn't "keep you in a calorie deficit" (a.k.a weight loss). Eating carbs puts you in a so-called "calorie surplus" a.k.a it causes weight gain.Counting and restricting calories while eating carbs still results in weight gain. The fattening effect of carbs is inescapable.
>>76556788>I get my dieting advice from daytime reality televisionGrim.
>>76556796CICO is from sugar merchants. That's why "daytime reality television" as you call it (i.e. Biggest Loser) used CICO.But yes you're correct that it is severely retarded to do CICO.
>>76556780Eating carbs, even if you log it in a diary and force yourself to go hungry, will put you in a "surplus" to use calorietard parlance.In other words you will gain body fat from eating carbs.
>>76556808>By making your diet interesting, sugar and help you stay on it.Very true. The most important part to succeed with any diet is adherence, which is why meme diets that deny the laws of thermodynamics and make you miserable never work in the end.
>>76556737its not bad depending on what your other food is that day. all of those studies keto schizo posts has the participants eating 20% of their calories from carbsthis dish has 180 calories from carbs meaning if you ate high protein for the rest of the day you'll be fine
can i drink black coffee and green tea during a fast?
>>76556851It's essentially water, so sure
>>76556851>not fasting from water toongmi
>>76556851fasting is a meme anyway so sure
im gonna be lean and toned eventually, goddammit!
>>76556857how would this benefit me?
If I say I won't eat anything tomorrow because I'm "fasting", nobody panics, because it's all 'part of the plan'. But when I say that I'll eat under 500 kcals, well then everyone loses their minds!
Thinking of going all in on chicken and salad for lunch and soup for dinner for a month and see how it goesI'm sick of being fat
>>76556874your body is 70% water, you are going to need to lose some of it if you want to lose weightalso fasting is a meme, so who cares
>>76556880You can make some absolute mcdaddy salads to be fair, but why restrict the variety so much? You can lose similarly much weight with less pain by just changing things up once in a while.
My yearly physical is in two weeks, is it worth telling my doctor about my weight loss plan/diet or will he just tell me the usual stuff?
>>76556874youre supposed to drink alot of water ignore him.>>76556879it works, i need something to look forward to each day or i'll break, why not a few hundred cal a day
>>76556898Never disclose anything to the satanic overseer caste.
>>76556903>it works, i need something to look forward to each day or i'll break, why not a few hundred cal a dayI'm memeing, but I'm unironically eating in the 700-800 kcals range a day and have done so for over a month. Works for me.
>>76556838Adherence is indeed key. That's why the calorie counting meme has never worked. As if people can measure every morsel they eat, log it in a diary, and force themselves to go hungry forever. What a joke.CICO isn't even a real diet. It's just a sugar marketing strategy. It was never intended to help people lose weight.Low-carb is the traditional method of weight loss because it actually works.
Im eating like 6 slices of apple pie a day 2x a week and im still losing weight, CICO is the best thing ever!
>>76556808>>76556788>>76556328I’m just curious, Ketoschizo, How much weight have you lost in the last couple of months? I’m doing a 30/30/40 split of fat, carbs, and protein at 1900 calories a day, and I’m dropping about 3,5 kg every month, went from 107 down to 91. What about you?
Finished my 5x5 and all my calories. Some good some bad but we're gonna make it anyways
>>76556911That's about 1800 calories.how fat r u?
>>76556649are you still on? Would you say it was worth it?
>>76556939No i came off it 4 months ago, lost 30lbs sicne coming off. Yes it was 100% worth it. Change my life.
What's the minimum amount of fat I should eat a day?
>>76556921And just like that he stopped kek.
it's weird to have a saboteur in the thread for so many days/hours in a row. it's either someone being paid to disrupt this general or a chatbot.
>>76556938Im only 5 kg overweight, my TDEE is like 2100-2200
>>76556968Maybe you need some stress relief.*slowly puts my lips with yours* is this better anon?
almost time to get a new belt or put a new notch in mine
>>76556968yeah there are jewish agents who spend their days around the clock trying to demoralize and fuck anons up. You see it in other boards too. Any kind of positivity or self improvement or guys trying to get GFs have one of these.
>>7655695050g
>>76556991Same with anything productive or positive really.Building something on /diy/? Should have paid a contractor. Going hiking on /out/? Not far away enough from society and too short. Cooking a meal on /ck/? Looks ass and you should have bought takeout. In general it's just a giant pit of doom and despair. All the more important not to get deterred by that shit.
>>76556880You're gonna get sick of eating plain chicken and white rice after like a week, a good diet is one you stick with
>>76556950just dont go out of your way to eat any fried foods or cheeseits not going to ruin your diet if you eat 1000 calories of fried chicken a day instead of baked chicken, but youre not going to feel great either
>>76557002they have to live their whole lives with that kind of mindset. can you even imagine what that must be like? constant neuroticism and negativity. it must be hell.
>>76556921I've been at my goal weight for so long I have lost count. Over a decade I guess.Low-carb makes it easy to reach your goal weight and maintain it. No measuring food, no logging in a diary, no going hungry, no exercise. Just unlimited delicious food like bacon, eggs, steak, hamburger, cheese, etc.
>>76557026"We're not judged for our sins, but by them" feels more and more true the older I get. I don't believe in karma, but I do believe that every choice one makes is a vote for the person one wants to be. Relevant in the context of this thread too.
I can't stop eating Stilton cheese
>>76556661It's 390 and feels filling and it's very tasty
>>76557078Those are probably the most important things, if it tastes good enough that you don't feel the urge to cheat on your diet, and that it's not an obscene amount of calories for what it is
>>76556654I recommend the Kirkland parm and black pepper chicken sausage. 150 cal/14g protein/10g fat each. I often microwave 2 or 3 and eat with mustard and their fermented sauerkraut for a meal. How fucking tall are you that you hand looks like that at 500 lbs??
I figured out what's wrong, I've been eating 700kcal breakfasts sure as shit shows me to calorie count
>>76557119how the hell were u managing that?
>>76557119I had a 650 breakfast this morning (tho 250 of that was a protein shake)
>>76556880You can but hopefully you’re a good cook and not planning on something dumb like iceberg and a plain breast for lunch then a small cup of canned minestrone for dinner. Not sustainable vs a mega salad with greens and a few other veg, olives or pickles or something, grilled seasoned chicken, beans, light cheese etc etc and a bowl of lean beef chili or chicken pozole. Dress your salad with (weighed) olive oil and vinegar or a low fat dressing if you’re ok with the ingredient list.
>>76557119kek were you eating a muffin frmo costco?
>>76557036yet you won't post body with current timestamp after being asked multiple timesIt's clear you're fat now
>>76557119single sausage link and an egg is a nice breakfast
>>76557119protip: eat just two servings of plain cream of wheat (240 calories). it will keep you full for hours. you can add milk, and sugar or berries, and salt if you want but just plain does the trick with very few calories. it's my standard low-calorie breakfast when i'm not being super active that day. it takes 1 minute in the microwave to make you have to watch it like a hawk though. if you walk away it will puff up and overflow the bowl and make a giant mess. just stand there in front of the microwave and watch it through the window. when it starts puffing up into a pillow then you let it get near the top of the bowl and then open the microwave and stir it until it settles back down. then put it back in the microwave and let it blow up into a pillow again, take it out and stir. it's done. less than 1 minute cook time.
>>76557119>this is intuitive eating on keto
another day of already eating all my intake for the day before 3 pmsigh
>>76557119Peanut butter toast is the devil...the delicious devil...
>>76556986I just got a new one and an old pair of jeans fits well and i wear them all the time now, feelsgoodman.
>>76557156>no one mentions keto>>THIS MUST BE KETOmentally ill retard
>>76557205>no one mentions ketoI wish
Name a general worse than /fat/......Well? Yeah, didn't think so.
>>76557127>>76557141Before I leave home I'd drink a yogurt and eat a cereal bar so that's around 200 kcal, and a couple hours into my workday I'd go to the supermarket and eat a puff pastry with meat filling and a juice pack to drinkAt last I truly see the error of my ways, honestly I don't know how I never figured it out.>>76557155Thanks anon, may just try that
>>76557223>couple hours into my workday I'd go to the supermarket and eat a puff pastry with meat filling and a juice pack to drinkI can see that. anon you look so cute and cuddly
If I eat less calories and workout more will I lose weight?
>>76557219xivg easily
>>76557155>Pro tip>Just eat coarse white flour for breakfast>It'll keep you full for hours>You can even add sugar
>>76557223just pack your own lunch
Is benching 27kg (including the bar) good as a 340lb /fat/?I could probably add more, but this allows me a good 20 reps 3-4x per week without hurting afterwords.
>>76557219erg clears
>>76557142
>>76557223Actual protip- I meal prep yogurt cups for breakfast. >2% greek yogurt >2 tbsp chia or flax seeds>healing tbsp nice local fruit jam I make 5 on Sunday night and the last one is still good on Friday. I use 8oz mason jars with 6oz yogurt for a ~250 cal serving but you could go bigger, change up ratios whatever. It’s the only breakfast meal prep that works for me because I find all the microwaved egg slop things disgusting
>>76557236If you eat carbs you will lower your metabolism and gain weight.If you eat zero carb you will successfully lose weight.
>>76556676search "drain cleaning australia" in youtube, best way to deal with hunger
>>76557273Flax seeds will literally kill me.t. ended up in the emergency room once.
>>76557273i envy people who like low fat greek yogurt, i would rather go hungry than eat that
>eating breakfastngmi
>>76557236>If you eat zero carb you will successfully lose weight.Don't listen to the keto poster anon.Eat less, move more. Tried and tested for all of human history.
>>76557282Well then use chia seeds dipshit >>765572852% is 10x more palatable than 0%. I’ve tried 5% and it’s a bit too indulgent for me
>>76557259Still not what I asked for but also this is pointless There are tons of skinny people with no muscle who say they never get fat and eat tons mcdonalds or fast food everydayIn the end its all about calories
>>76556874Your fat cells act as both storage for water and calories. When you lose weight your fat back fills the lipids lost with water, however taking on water while trying to release lipids creates a strong osmotic pressure to not release the lipids. Meaning that your fat cells will release fewer calories when you're waterlogged and you get more hungry and tired.Try dry fasting a little bit. Thirst overwrites hunger by a large margin. You don't have to go full schizo about it, just keep yourself a little bit thirsty and suddenly you won't feel hunger. Plus breaks become more manageable because you just drink a little bit and move on.
>>76557303>There are tons of skinny people with no muscle who say they never get fat and eat tons mcdonalds or fast food everydayyeah this is fatty cope, those people don't exist
>>76557288>Eat less, move more. Tried and tested for all of human history.Tried, tested, and proven to have worse results than eating unlimited calories on a low-carb diet.Pic related.
>>76557259https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/75449698#75452925Try maybe a recent pic with timestamp instead of this 9 month old pic you keep spamming
had a massive latte this morning (with whole milk, of course) so I haven't really been hungry most of the day. Taking it easy with a light early dinner.
>>76557363shiiiiiiiiit sausage sounds nice but they are so high in fat.
>>76557363God I NEED a currywurst. Or five.
>>76557349So how many years of maintenance is that between pics?
>>76557366just eat some veggie sausages anon :)
>>76557366Dietary fat is good for you and is slimming.You can eat unlimited dietary fat and unlimited protein. Just avoid carbs.
>>76557377how fat are you right now that you can't post pic?
>>76557377>>76557259>>76557036Friendly reminder that this isn't even him. He just took the Pic from another anon that said he did keto.
>>76557388You're accusing me of adding carbs to my diet?
>>76557392Oh so you're fat cause you ate carbs? I guess you can't adhere to ketoI understand, its a nasty diet
holy shit seeing the 300lb whales cry about carbs every thread is so annoying… please shut the fuck up for once
>>76557396Fat people who eat carbs and fail at weight loss want other people to eat carbs and fail at weight loss.Misery loves company.
>pretends to be another (slim) anon>is fat cause he eats carbs>can't adhere to keto>praises it like a gospelWhy are you like this?
Are carbs good for you?
>>76557366yeah you can only get away with sausage on a cut if you cut out carbs
>>76557341>unlimited calories on a low-carb diet.thats not what your study says, it says the people on low carb ate less caloriesit also said white people lost more weight than black people regardless of diet, which i find funny that they included it
>>76557400you are the schizo telling people to eat unlimited amounts of fat
Literally impossible to not be fat on carbs.Nobody was slim before industrial food production made it possible for inhabitants of developed countries to live off meat exclusively.
>>76557400I am slightly overweight. I am not some bed ridden fat folds having 300lbs monster like you. I am here to have visible abs next summer, not to walk on my own. Every single athlete I know eats rice and bread along with meat and protein. It is only mentally ill planetoids trying to live off of fucking steak and butter. I don’t care for the opinions of this kind of people. Fuck off. /fat/ needs to splinter off a sister thread called /gigantic/ for your kind
>>76557416The people on the low-carb diet ate unlimited calories. The people on low-fat restricted their calories.Here's another. Unlimited calorie low-carb vs restricted calorie. Unlimited calorie low-carb wins.
>>76557416>>76557419>>76557423The more you reply to him, the more he's going to keep spamming the threat. He's been at this for nine months and has never actually posted his body. It's the same guy over and over again. You aren't going to change his mind with reason or insults.
>>76557423Athletes do better on zero carb carnivore.
>>76557431But that's what makes him so fascinatingWhy is he so enamored by the diet when he's still fat
>>76557431>It's the same guy over and over again. You aren't going to change his mind
>>76557428the pic is a direct quote from your study, you need to read further down than just the summery. the low carb group ate less calories a day then the low cal group, probably because the low cal group was told to eat 500 under maintenance and the low carb group was never given that specific cap and could go as low as they wanted
>>76557144sounds kinda comfy. i was doing oats with berries or quark with fruit for breaks for a while. now i just mix like 60 to 80 grams of chocolate protein powder into my coffee and have 100 mL of carrot juice for daily vitamin A and that's the whole breakfast.
Just had an awful diarrhea shit, should I stop supplementing magnesium?
>>76557433> Athletes do better on zero carb carnivore.No they fucking don’t. You have never been around an athlete in your life.I don’t care that a ketotard climbed a mountain.
>post your body>posts someone else’s bodywhy are they like this
>>76557458The more you respond to his bait with these irate replies, the more he's going to post. We all know it's false. There's never been a positive reply to any of his spam. Just let it go.
>>76557433
about 11 kg down since june 26. 95 kg to 83.7 today. height 178 cm. trying to maintain muscle mass but life is stressing me the fuck out. i don't think i'll end up skinnyfat but i most certainly am gonna have some loose skin. i bend over and it hangs and wrinkles up in the most awful fashion. discouraging desu.weight in adult life has bounced between 95 and 110 kg with a brief record high of nearly 120 when i was like 17. no wonder the skin isn't holding up.
>>76557275nah i'm not gonna lie, that shit looks tremendous. i would devour that
today I ate an entire tub of matcha ice cream and I'd do it again if I could
I remember when I lost a bunch of weight and still had gyno. Shit disheartened me so much I gained it all back. It's fucking over...
>>76557474i still have gyno too anon. and stretch marks and loose skin. but i'll be damned if i'm gonna be fat on top of that.
>>76556309If i put on a dress or leggings and a jacket while sprinting will i be able to finally have sex or do i have to sit this season out again?
>>76557474I know your pain. Trust me when I say it improves tremendously at low body fat levels. Fixing a chest is like the final boss, doesn’t happen at the halfway point.
>>76557474You were likely still fat anongotta get LEAN
This made me curious: is anybody willing to post body with current timestamp? No judgement, just want to see progress.
>>76557488noooooo I want to look good first
>>76557488i wish, i was too ashamed to take any "before" pics
>>76557488Feel free to get the ball rolling.
>>76557488Why so you can jack off to it? You better be a pretty girl.
>>7655748518% bf i think, but I looked really skinny. No muscle tho I just no lifed the treadmill in between online courses.>>76557482Are there any non-invasive ways that don't involve surgery? Like building chest muscles? Or will that just make it worse?I got horrible posture too with nerd neck, anterior pelvic tilt, and curved back. I also have big hips for a man. I'm starting to think I have klienfelters... I'm 24 years old atm, I may be too old to change my skeletal issues and man tits. It might be time to /wrists
>>76557508Nta but who the hell is masturbating to photos of fat dudes?
>>76557516It's a common retort to get people off the hook of posting body. If you've been around here for any length of time, you'll see it posted at least once or twice a thread.
Used to never be able to ejaculate, ever, while fat and since losing 50 pounds i am able toAny explanation for this? Definitely a confidence boost
>>76557440The low carb group ate unlimited calories. Here's another where unlimited calorie low-carb has the better results compared with a restricted calorie diet.
>>76557465>climber who eats only meat beats the climbers who eat grains and vegetablesYes.
>>76557488Everyone is scared to end up in an image comparison which shows keto is superior
I really want a nutrigrain bar, but it will put me over 1500 calories
>>76557498>feel free to get the ball rollingFuck it, why not? Been lurking and (sparingly) posting in the fatty contest for about a year. I like listening to your stories when I need diet motivation.My highest weight was around 271 lbs, today I came in at 212 lbs. I am 24 years old and 6’0.Wasn’t asking for progress pics to judge anybody. I know there are bodybuilders in here in waaaay better shape than me, and also morbidly obese people who are way worse off. I was just curious to see what you bros looked like. I’m definitely not proud of my body yet, but I will be some day. WAGMI
>>76557516Why do you think im fat? Because im not stupid?
>>76557574brutally mogs me
ah shit, it is sideways
>>76557576?? what
>>76557574>tfw 6' 200lbs and look noticeably worse than thisMy fat distribution is really fucked. Like if you saw my arms and legs you'd think I was at 12-15% bf but then all of the fat is concentrated in my middle and chest.
>>76557582So you think im fat because im not a faggot
>>76557099That's an image from Google anom not my hand
>>76557595i never said i think ur fat, idek who u r
>>76557598post hands, show us the meat gloves
does ketofag really?
>>76557590then let’s get lean togetherwon’t matter at all if you don’t have any fat left to distribute
>>76557574I thought you mean progress pic like with before and nowI can do a current pic, still fat
Fatty ContestNapoli90.4kg176cm
>110g of CARBOHYDRATES! OMFG I'm going to GAIN SO MUCH WEIGHT!!!
>>76557614when did you start and how much have you lost so far bro?
>>76557276thanks I was using "indian streetfood" clips until now for similar effect
>>76557642Lost about 15kg since I joined fatty contest but >when did you startmy entire life is just a constant swing of dieting and getting fat again
>>76557657Well you’re wiser now than you were those other times. Hope to meet you at the finish line bro
>>76556910I am not going to say that keto doesn't work, because I have a lost a lot of weight with it in the past, without counting calories. But when I reached a plateau I went back to eating like normal, because there is no way in hell I am not going to eat carbs for the rest of my life, and of course, I regained the weight. So in the end the whole thing was pointless because keto is not something that most people can do sustainably. Counting calories takes at most 5 minutes of my time every day, I can eat whatever I want (in moderation), and it is easily something that I could continue doing for the rest of my life.
>>76557625its joever you're obese.
>bmi 18>body looks more like bmi 25
If my medication gives me horrific diarrhea when I eat anything do I need to count those calories
>>76557488This is me as of yesterdayStill need to lose 3-4 more pounds to be as lean as I want, but my progress has slowed down to the point it's almost halted.
>>76557665Yeah I'll see you there, just noticed you're only 10 lb lighter than me at 6'
>>76557676Can I play with your tummy?
>>76557676you need some muscle bro
>>76557671I don't even count calories. I just counted for a few days, trying to go for different meals and I go off that. Sometimes I do it again for a few days to make sure I haven't changed things overtime accidentally and that's it.
Anything I can do to ease DOMS?I went for a long strenuous hike and my calves and quads have been blown for 48h now. At this rate im going to miss tomorrow's leg day.
>>76557684sure, its awfully hairy >>76557687i know, but i still think its bs that my bmi is so low yet appearance-wise, it doesn’t show at alli look fat as shit
>>76557699Cut down the amount you hike.
I'm 260 lbs, 6'2". Should I prioritize lifting or cardio?
>>76557712you should prioritize eating less
>>76557679Dude you’re looking great. You are at the point now that a lot of fat dudes want to end up. Hope you achieve your goals.
>>76557714I do, I only eat 2k calories a day. I used to weigh 320lbs.
>>76557723chuck that down another 500kcals buddy
>>76557723congrats anon thats impressive, i'd say prioritize lifting then
>>76557679jellyI have another 6 months or so till I'm where you are. nice workwhat did you start at?
>>76557703>sure, its awfully hairy*shaves your tummy and starts rubbing it*
>>76557726if he's losing weight and doesn't care about the time frame that's fine>>76557723start lifting then if you aren't alreadycardio is a meme unless you care about doing marathons or something>>76557733this was me 3 months ago
>>76557739i really hope ur a girl and not a guy
>>76557745>i really hope ur a girl and not a guy.... I thought you were a girl.
>>76557671The problem with estimating (not really counting) calories and tracking them in a diary is that it doesn't actually work long term. Even if you stick with it your body adjusts and gains fat.The only solution to obesity is to stop eating fattening food (i.e. carbs).
>>76557755why would i be a girl?i just said i was hairy
>>76557745>>76557755kek
>>76557756>your body adjusts and gains fatCrab begone from this thread
>>76557721thanks, I still feel pudgy and small. It's definitely a great improvement over a few months ago when I really felt fat.
>>76557758>i just said i was hairywell maybe you have PCOS or something. Who else is 18 BMI and tubby? *slowly slips my tongue in your mouth*
>>76557765>Who else is 18 BMI and tubby?thats called being skinny fatwhich men are just as capable of being as women.
>>76557488Still fat, still losing
>>76557769>which men are just as capable of being as women.well you should turn into a woman then.*licks your tongue*
>>76557259I literally look like the guy on the right ;-;
>>76557776you are a very strange anon
>>76557792>you are a very strange anonno you are a strange anon. how the hell are you 18 BMI and such a cutie?
>>76557795i am a hairy and smelly grown man
>>76557805>i am a hairy and smelly grown man*shaves you entirely and throws you in the shower*fixed
>>76557807u need help
a bmi of 18 is really lowif you’re skinny fat at that bmi you have absolutely negative muscle, you should unironically be bulking
>>76557824anyway anon. How did you get yourself to 18 bmi?
>>76557826i shouldve clarified, its bmi 18.4 not 18.0. >>76557827calorie deficit and some fasting here and there
>>76557845>calorie deficit and some fasting here and thereAre you a neet too?
>>76557741>3 monthsshit, 3 months? that pic is probably just a little more lean than I am right now but for 3 months that's awesome. your first pic is what I want to look likevery nice progress bro
>>76557846yes, 80+% of ppl here are neets
>>76557854>yes, 80+% of ppl here are neetsno fucking way you are a neet, on top of being 18 BMI. what is your plan then from here? I'm assuming you are young because neetdom isn't something that will last long
you need carbs for your brain. explains why ketolard is so dumb LOL
>>76557861>no fucking way you are a neet, on top of being 18 BMI.why is this hard to believe? getting to a low bmi is easy, just eat less. its actually getting fit thats hard since it requires working out >what is your plan then from here? i have a simple set up in my room to start lifting but besides that, nothing else.
>>76557883>why is this hard to believe? getting to a low bmi is easy, just eat less. its actually getting fit thats hard since it requires working out No that is the easy part. >i have a simple set up in my room to start lifting but besides that, nothing else.Where are you from anon? Why not go to a gym?
>>76557890im from america, i dont like to leave my house and i dont plan to workout any other partof my body besides arms/ shoulders anyways so a gym would be a waste of time
>6'1>205 lbs>30% BFis it over for me?
>>76557900>i dont plan to workout any other partof my body besides arms/ shoulders anyways so a gym would be a waste of timethat's a shame anon.with your build you could twinkmode
found out im diabetic 3 weeks ago. i've been working really hard to diet and I still get FUCKED IN THE ASS.
>>76557905i have too mch body hair and self dignity to twinkmode
>>76557901>is it overOnly if you do nothing
>>76557916>i have too mch body hair and self dignity to twinkmode>self dignitiyTwinkmode is reaching a higher power than all these other anons.
>>76557915You caused this issue. Grow up.
>>76557924twinkmode wont get me laid
>>76557712cardio daily, lifting periodically
>>76557930>twinkmode wont get me laidyes it will anon I'll show you de weihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_lByyXrC1Q
>just looked up the sodium on fish sauceDamn, I've putting it on my white rice for a while. Thought I found a delicious hack. No wonder I feel so bloated
I remember when I went from 95kg->70kg from sheer cardio and calorie deficit. I had 0 muscle, still skinnyfat and had a belly, and couldn't even standup properly without getting dizzy. How do I not repeat this?
>>76557972you do it again, and then start lifting and jogging afterwards.lift every 3 days, and after 6 months you'll look good
>>76557972you eat enough protein, cut the carbs, and lift weights
Im currently on 7.5mg of Monjauro, and the effects arent as strong as that first month. Would switching to wegovy give me stronger effects due to the change?My provider is being difficult with providing my next dose before the price goes up next week.Ive just ordered a tonne of Orlos to take alongside my monjauro.Is there any reason I shouldnt mix the two, and do you think ill lose weight rapidly taking both since it seems to have slowed now
>>76557488I usually save this for 50lb increments but I'm bored.
>>76558001kinda nuts to see the face shrink like that, how come there's no loose skin around your chin?
>>76558001Damn dude, nice work. Gonna need skin removal to mop that up when its over though, if you care about aesthetics
>>76558001Holy shit you went from boogie chin to normal human, great job anon.I know it's not a popular topic, but I hope you take care of that loose skin in terms of hygiene, skin folding over itself is prime fungal infection area. If you do get some discoloration or spots, just buy a cheap generic anti fungal cream.
>>76558001
>>76558001when david goggins said that his skin shrunk was he lying?
>>76558006>how come there's no loose skin around your chinThere is, it's just not noticeable when I look up....unlike the back of my neck, where the real horror show is.>>76558008I'm aware, still saving up for that.>>76558022Wouldn't be the first time someone here compared my old self to Boogie. Don't worry, I properly wash and dry myself. Aside from some pimples everything's fine.>>76558028Kek.
>>76557993You are peak ngmi
>>76558061Im peak motive maxing. Im going to try and get my extra month on monjauro or switch to wegovy, I got the Orlos to further lose weight.I looked into it, mixing the two could lead to vitamin deficiency from losing the vitamins absorbed through fat. So I got multi vit A, C and E tablets, multi vit calcium D and K and some vit B for energy.You say ngmi, I say maximising my chances of making it
>>76558061cut the cope dude we've solved obesityif you want to lose weight the legit way without drugs congratulations, more power to you, but he's making it with drugs.
Retatrutide is going to hit the UK like a speeding train in bombay soon. Maybe it will make monjauro cheaper
how do you get loose skin to shrink and remove strech marks? also something to help with gyno. I think I can lose most of the weight if I just start running again but I'm scared of the what it'll leave behind. No health care atm so I can't get any type of surgery, or approved if I'm being honest, my country has infamous wait times.
>>76558053>Aside from some pimples everything's fineGlad to hear anon, I just had to mention it because I got a fungal infection (nothing serious, just discoloration and itching) at much less weight from that area between moobs and belly touching for too long and getting sweaty while sitting hunched over at a pc. Generic fungal cream fixed it, but it shouldn't have to get to that point.
>>76558099Read this link in the ophttps://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Do the skincare stuff to move the needle slightly, but mostly:- stretch marks will lose color over time but not go away, it's scar tissue. They become much harder to see though in the process.- Gyno goes away 75%+ of the time with weightloss, because it's not real gyno, just fat deposits. If it's real gyno, sorry to say, it'll stay until you get surgery. So lose the weight, most likely it goes away, if not you can still fix it then.- loose skin shrinking is 99% time. You can help mildly with mentioned methods, but mostly it's time.Either way, stop making excuses. Lose the weight, you'll look better for it, I promise. Likely most issues will go away by themselves and the ones that don't you can still deal with then.
>>76558111Fear of real gyno is keeping me from taking hair loss prevention right now.Im not that anon but based and check for this list.Ive got huge stretch marks, looking like freddy kruger at the right angle. Luckily they are very pale. Id rather have more marks and be slim than stay obese
>start my regimen and cico and weight training for my first month.>sweat like a waterside in my workouts>lost 14 pounds>this week im sweating a fuck ton less despite what I feel is just as intense workouts.Is this bad? The weather has cooled down a bit but I was getting used to my shirt beinf half soaked after my workouts.
>>76558079>but he's making it with drugs.He is complaining about the effects wearing off, said his weight loss has slowed, and is now desperately trying to get more and thinking about mixing multiple different kinds together because without this rapidly failing crutch he lacks the ability to exercise free will and put the fork down. How exactly is that making it?
>>76558132Sweat meaning weight loss is a legacy misunderstanding. Its not the truth, raising your heart rate (which is easier in a warm environment) is how you lose weight. Relaxing in a sauna for example isnt weight loss.
>>76558118>Id rather have more marks and be slim than stay obeseThat's the biggest part to realize in the process of this stuff, that anons are considering if their approach is min/maxed while disregarding the bigger picture, which is that basically every health aspect gets better as you lose the weight.It's like watching a snuff film and being concerned the torturer may use non sustainably sourced tools. The short is I'd much rather not be fat and have all of these issues than still be fat. And it's not like you can't regain the fat if you really wanted to. It's just the fatty brain making up excuses to get us not to act.>>76558132Better cardiovascular health, higher fitness level, lower weight. It'd be a surprise if your sweating didn't get better. You can increase intensity if you feel like it, but overall that's a good sign, you're making it anon.
>>76558141>>76558142I suppose. But im at 269 pounds. down from 298 in March (didnt start truly working out till last month). Long way to go
>had steak and potatoes last night>still lose weight todayWAGMI
>>76558139Thats a lot of assumptions. Due to delays in postage lately Ive gone 7 days without a dose and kept my calories way in check. It being less effective now isnt meaning im gorging uncontrollably, it just means Im getting the occasion hunger pang I didnt get a a couple of months ago. The dosage can go up another 4 or 5 times before I hit the max. Its very important to have self control, but when I can gurantee my results for a controlled amount of money I will. I had a lot of weight to shift, and want to be slim and my best again.
Really bums me out to think about how there really is no end to this. It’s not like I can hit my goal weight and then go back to eating what I want and as much as I want without consequences. Maybe I was just born to be a fat glutton.
>>76558177>Maybe I was just born to be a fat glutton.get muscles and you can have a higher sedentary TDEE
>>76558177When you are goal weight you can stop looking at things daily and look at them longer.You can eat 2 donuts and drink a choccy milk today as long as you make up the calories in the next two days
>>76558177eating at maintenance is easy, hitting your goal means no more torture for your body, just a rejection of gluttony
>>76558001How long did it take you to lose this? My starting and current weight are almost identical and I have much less loose skin. Its been roughly 3 years though.
>>76558177glp1
>>76558200I’d rather die of a heart attack from being fat than blindly trust whatever that thing would do to my body and mind
>>76558208Yeah that is pretty dumb anon
>>76558208It's not blind trust. The FDA did rigorous tests and proved it's safe and effective.
>>76558216Yeah the same FDA that approved the Covid vax.
>>76558208It just removes the stupid hunger and cravings that are misplaced in a world full of excessMaybe people like us would be more motivated to find food and stuff ourselves in old times, it would be good for us But in our world it doesn't make sense to have this devil on our shoulders
>>76558220Yeah.Whether you like it or not, the two weeks, two months, two years is long past.
>>76558148Both steak and potatoes are super nutritious foods! If you’re going real proper lean go with top sirloin pan cooked in ghee and a microwaved baked potato, spray with oil first then eat with light sour cream and hot sauce. A big portion of steamed veg on the side never hurts. Or make yourself a treat of ribeye and fries and work it into your weekly cico!
>>76558223Sure that’s the short term effects, but we know nothing of the long term effects.
>>76558226It was a giant t-bone and a couple of spoonfuls of scalloped potatoes.I didn't eat anything for the rest of the day.
>>76558233But we do know the long term effects of obesity
>>76558189>How long did it take you to lose this?Little over a year.
>>76558233What? They've been tested since the mid 90s. Ill be dead in 30 years anyway
>>76558237Those can be reversed with weight loss
>>76556309I'm a mongrel that got slapped with some Indian genetics. Is there a way to get rid of the round of fat permanently at my waist that isn't liposuction? The rest of my body will look fine at around 12% bf but my stomach will look pretty fucking unfortunate. I've tried rolling with it but I can't stand the thing.>inb4 "saar"
>>76558234Hell yeah
>>76558259Yes but if you can't lose your weight because you can't go back to eating what you want, maybe its time to change what you wantGLP1s do that
>>76558265If a person can’t lose weight normally than becoming a druggie on some experimental drug wont work either
>>76558141>Relaxing in a saunaOk but what if the sauna makes my heart race
>>76558233These drugs have been used for decades to treat diabetes. When the patents for ozempic expire next year, everybody is going to get on it. The health benefits are massive.
>>76556562is it bad to use semaglutide if you're only skinnyfat?
>>76556654are you able to shop at that weight?
>>76558001you popped the fucking balloonnice work
>>76558330Semengluten as well as the other GLP1 drugs come with a risk of cancer and other side effects so if you don't need it don't use it.
>>76558099>how do you get loose skin to shrinkCarnivore diet with unlimited calories.
Should I do 1500 cal deficit omad or 5 day a week fasting?
>>76558408neet or wagie?
am girl, need to lose 30 lbs before end of the year... how can I do it, bros?
>>76558414college studentso basically a wagie but with more hours
>>76558099>Loose skinEndolift>Stretch marksBrazilian micropuncture You're welcome, don't believe any other bitch, I just gave you the tea
How bad would it be to eat a salad each day instead of something like broccoilipic related
>>765584191500 cal deficit omad
>I just broke a 72 hour fast with 1900 calories of taco bellsurely, this is what every nutrition expert recommends
>>76558431Just make sure to watch the dressing calories. A lot of those pre made bags of salad have 2x the dressing you need
>>76557772There aren't 15 months in a year retard
>>76558582do americans really...?
>>76558613>>76558613
>>76558431>croutons
>>76558431I prefer broccoli because when I buy those salad kits I just end up eating only the lettuce and the shredded parm if it comes with it and it feels like I’m wasting money buying a bag with sauce and croutons that I won’t eat.
What do anti-carb people eat for fiber?
>>76558644half of them don't even bother or go full fiber=bad and end up with gut issues that they blame on something else, the others guzzle down chia seeds with their "unlimited" buttercoffee bacon breakfasts
>>76557574>Four pack of toothbrushes>flossers>TherabreathBased oral health chad. Some people severely overlook this aspect of health. Good on you.
>>76558686who in the civilized world does that?
>>76558686>sick t-brushes, bro
>>76559036>>76559039Coping losers with tooth decay.SAD.
>>76558431I highly doubt you're eating 180 calories of broccoli so you would be eating more calories and it would be less nutritious considering you're swapping from a dark cruciferous vegetable to basically just water With some white flour and a sprinkle of cheese.
