>Who is /fat/ for?For Marbled Mammoths, working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Previous thread: >>76595713
>the local obesiarch officially excommunicated me on Saturday>still too fat to fit in among the normalweightssmallfat hell is real
Fatty ContestPeakedIn201093.4kgI'm back, and have regained almost all of my weight. Give me some (You)s to get me started.
>>76600482Why'd (You) regain it
>>76600459wow OP pic is so me
>lost weight and got into great shape back in 2021>start dating a girl who was emotionally unwell>she latched on and i subconsciously started eating and drinking to subvert my unhappiness>gained 40 lbs of fat>broke up with her>lost 35 lbs and started running a lot>found another girl and we started dating>turns out she was nothing like who she portrayed when we first starting dating>she also ate like a child and demanded my time and i gained the weight backnow i'm happily single again and just got out of the gym. i want to get from 245lbs to 195lbs before new years or at least february
>>76600541I stopped dieting and reverted to my old habits.I could give you a large list of copes on why did this happen, what was my mental state, what was going on with my life, and why now it's different, but none of that shit matters. Only the weekly entries matter.
been maintaining. back on it. eoy push. wagmi.
>>76600482unironically just start taking ozempicit's time to accept that the modern world is not hospital for people like you
>>76600573>hospitalhospitable*fuck me it's too late for this shit
finally 80kg
>kg>kg >kgFor the love of GOD just use lbs.
>>76600596176lb doesnt have a good ring to it
split squats are so hard bros
I think my metabolism is fucked up somehow. It feels like I have to eat even fewer calories than the lower estimates set on calculators to lose weight. My mom has hypothyroidism and I read that it can be genetic. Could I have a problem like that too?
>>76600550Blaming your weight regain on somebody else is not productive. Think about what you can do to get better. Don't latch on to the past. Blaming others will only further you to make excuses.
>>76600679Yes totally. Do you have any of the typical symptoms? Feeling cold, constipation, anxiety, dry skin, hair loss?
>>76600679idk im not your doctorbut the solution is simple: move around more
I remember someone saying that if you're a fatass walking 10k steps a day will help you lose an additional half a kilo a weekHow true is that?
>>76600707Its a blanket generalization. Like saying eating less maks s you lose weight. Its an arbitrary truth but nondescriptive. It depends on your height/weight/walking speed etc.General rule is just move more, do as much walking as you can.
>>76600712>General rule is just move more, do as much walking as you can.Fair enough, how do you I know if I'm over doing it?Pains etc?
>>76600723you can get DOMS but they're usually a sign of a good workout, no damage indcurred to muscles and such.
>>76600723Yeah, you won't get pain from walking though
>>76600573>the modern world is not hospitalon the contrary
>>76600696Some dry skin, but I'm unsure how much is normal. Hair loss too, but I've always shed a ton of hair even as a teenager. Also, when I take ALCAR (acetyl-l-carnitine) I get a globus sensation. ALCAR can supposedly negatively affect the hormone from the thyroid. That's what initially made me think about it, because it didn't sound normal.
>>76600747I would definitely see a doctor. Or at least go get blood tested. Check your thyroid hormone.
>>76600459Fatty ContestReodorFelgen79.1kgNot too long left now. WAGMI
Ate a lot yesterday and this morning, went on my first run on my stupid 5k plan thing and started a fast, i feel alright, ready to do this!Fatty ContestNapoli88.4kg
>>76600749Thanks. I'll look into it.
Is the Contest bugged?
>>76600596>pound>lbs>from livres>from latin libraeternally mogged by catholics. vivat imperium romanum
Fried chicken is the perfect food when you think about it>loads of protein>tons of healthy fats (if cooked in beef tallow)>just enough carbs but not too much
>>76600959It's also delicious
>>76600959>Fried chicken>tons of healthy fats (if cooked in beef tallow)lol
>>76600187New batch of food ready. Hopefully it will work out just as well as last 5 days.
>>76600482Back on the horse brother. Good luck
>6 am>planet fitness app already says 2 bars of activity
day 2 of water fasting. i have a weird taste in my mouth and i feel warm.
>Currently accepting entriesWhy hasn't my entry been accepted yet? The contest doesn't work! This is rigged! This is bullshit!
I will have visible abs by the end of the year
I'm using ozempic on my next cut. Fuck this shit. I'm never going to do this dieting garbage again. So much energy and brainpower wasted thinking about food, hunger, counting calories, all of that bullshit.I've done it once, I'm almost under 15% bodyfat, and I'm never doing it again.
140 days left until I am officially no longer fat.Max weight: 315 lbCurrent weight: 222Current goal: 180As I shed the weight, I am also wrestling to shed my mental illness, anger, and despair. It is advised that one should not hope for success, since you will also fear failure. But I think a little hoping is good for motivation if you have the strength to conquer fear. So I hope that I can be a normal attractive person one day.
Morning, frens. Stay strong.
I just want to have a conversation with some life long fatties here. I have been as high as 350lbs and as low as 198lbs in my adult life at 6'1. I grew up very overweight and probably didn't appreciate how much I actually consumed until I became an adult. I guess what makes it hard for me the "food noise" is what I've heard it described as. Its just constantly thinking about food in one way or another. I don't know what it is but there always needs to be something happening in terms of hand-to-mouth action. I can't even get interested in something, like a video game or a book to get my mind out of that place. I seem to always default to checking the time to see if I can eat or worrying about calories, or doing the numbers if I can eat this or that. Its honestly so tiresome and my wish in this life is to not think about food. It is an anxiety and compulsion that I cannot abstain from. Perhaps its a matter of will power, perhaps its something diagnosed. I am just grateful that I have the control over it to lose weight when I want to. Does everyone have this shitty relationship with food or is it just me?
>>76601156Maybe try chewing gum? Take the gum out of your mouth for 1 hour after 2 hours of chewing. Then gradually increase the time when it is out of your mouth. That way you'll build up tolerance to having nothing in your mouth.
>>76601156I can't speak for everyone, but I can say that the type of food you eat 100% dictates how my brain thinks about food. If I only eat "boring", healthy food (I say boring but its quite delicious once your brain re-calibrates) like salads, chicken + veg, turkey chili, etc, I stop having impulses related to always needing something to put into my mouth. I'm not the schizo keto/carb dude, but I will say that eating simple carbs tends to immediately make me think about and want snack/eat constantly. If I don't eat simple carbs (no chips, cookies, desserts, etc), then I'm good. If I eat a cookie or 2, or a small bag of chips, then I'm struggling against thinking about food for the next few days-week. Its weird. I suggest trying some fasting as well. It helped reset my brain-food connecting. Started with 16/8 (skip breakfast, only eat between 12-8pm), and that helped immensely. Fasting is like a muscle; at first its hard, then it becomes second nature. Now I can't eat breakfast, my stomach feels weird if I try.Going one meal a day (OMAD) help the most, but 16/8 was where I saw some real change in my relationship with food.Also, not sure your fitness, but working out can recouple your brain/food/fuel connection, so that you start craving only what fuels you, rather than just eating for pleasure.
>>76601171I appreciate the response. My diet is pretty good. I don't do carbs at all. I do fasting loosely now, give or take an hour here or there depending on my schedule. My diet is mostly greens, meats, eggs, frozen berries and protein powder. My fitness is pretty good honestly. I did a half-marathon not long ago, regular 10ks and lift inconsistently. I think I just haven't tried for a long time and getting it back is just building that willpower muscle more than anything. Hoping to get down from 240lbs to 180lbs this time.
>>76600459I AM THE MARBLE AND THE SCULPTOR RAH229.6lbs, was in the 180s last year before life happened. Being heavy sucks so much.>>76600470Worked for me the first time, it'll work again this time.
>>76601107How much can you squat bench deadlift overhead press?
Fatty ContestBetterNateThanLever211.3 lbs
does playing fortnite really intensively burn a lot of calories
>>76601364no
>>76601367but I get really sweaty and my body gets hot
>be on 600 caloric deficit all week>do lifts 3 times a week>40mins of cardio every day>weight self 7 days later>gained 0.10 kgI swear I am going to fucking commit violent crimes.
>>76601156Food is my fallback when I'm bored, and occasionally I'll be distracted by something and losing weight becomes simple. When I got addicted to FFXI instead of food suddenly I was think about HNM TODs, Skillchains, Party compositions, leveling strategies ect and it was all I'd think about morning to night, and then I quit. I was 50lbs lighter than when I started but once FFXI was out of my life I ballooned back up because I didn't have something to obsess over and food filled the gap. Even once I stated taking my diet seriously and started tracking all my food I noticed certain activities invite food, I just pair them together in my mind, I started watching TV shows with my family and I naturally take that as an opportunity to snack, doesn't matter what it is, its just when I'm sitting in front of a TV watching something I want to also be shoving something in my face, my hack there was to just flavor some crushed ice with some zero calorie flavors but it was still a struggle not to reach for some more caloric snacks. So I stopped doing that and chose a diferent hobby, got back into model building, and like with FFXI my thoughts were now occupied with nipping parts out of runners, sanding down nubs, snapping kits together, priming, painting, posing, making dioramas, having multiple projects in various stages that I ping-pong between, and suddenly weight loss is simple again, lost like 60lbs. My problem is this enthusiasm is often shortlived, I'll live, breath, and sleep something for a few months ignoring everything else, burnout on it, and then I'm back to shoving my face with food as a way to deal with my boredom, I just want that stimulation.I've incorporated running/walking and weight lifting into my regular routine since coming here though, and so far I haven't skipped out on that. Its given me more structure to my day, wake up, morning run, rehyrdate/rest, lift, hobby time, meal time, sleep, repeat. If you're anything like me its likely just boredom.
>>76601403I have tried doing deficits from 500-1000 calories multiple times now and not only is it torture, but you never see any results. I've given up with this deficit bullshit and just resorted to fasting two days a week, I can control my eating the other days but I cannot do deficits.I would rather torture myself two days a week and see results instead of torture myself the entire week and not see shit.
>>76601410Have you ever tried factorio? that thing is like crack, i remember a saturday where around 8pm i thought "just going to finish this and then i am going to eat" went to sleep 2am without eating
>>76601403you need to do low intensity stuff do burn fatall the high intensity stuff burns just carbs
>>76601430I did steady state cardio on a home bike for 40mins every day, nothing too high intensity... I don't get it. I did everything I was supposed to do, didnt eat 3 hours before bed, took my 150g protein every day, low fats, medium carbs....I just. Don't know wtf to do anymore. Could it be because of the weight training that the scale didnt move? I am taking creatine every day too, i'm trying to keep muscle while i lose fat.
>>76601424No, but I've done benders on zachtronics games, dwarf fort, souls, civ, paradox grand strategies, various RL games like Angband, Infra Arcana, and CDDA and like with the others I get really enthusiastic about it for a few weeks/months to the exclusion of everything else, where I don't even bother to eat some days because I'm too addicted to stop, then my interest invariably wanes and I'm back to shoving my face when I'm bored. So yeah I've been there, you look at the clock expecting it to be 9pm "wow its 3am already!?" and you just jump in bed without eating.
>>76601430wouldn't these burn 100% fat if you're on keto
>>76601438this is an easy fix:stop all activity besides walking/slow steady stuffyou need to feel your heart pumping and sweating do only that, also only eat one meal a day at night, low fatdont drink coffee/tea, this raises cortisol and this is what raises insulin aswellyou basically need to stop eating and do more BUT LOW STRESS ALL THE TIMEdrink alot of vitamin c as often as possible to mitigate all the sympoms that come with fastingone meal a day at night
>>76601430So what happens if you just keep burning carbs? Does that not also burn fat as you body converts one to the other? Is it not ultimately the caloric deficit that matters more than what type of fuel is being burned during the activity?Lets say I burn 300kcal by walking, yeah its at a ratio of 80% fat burned but it takes 46 minutes, where as if I jogged it'd only take 17 minutes.
>>76601449no, the higher the intensity your body uses carbsthe lower the intensity, the more fat gets burned>>76601455you always use a ratio of carbs and fatyes you need to be in a calorie defecit to bun fat as quick as possiblethats why fasting or one meal a day at night, low or better no fat, and alot of low stress low intensity trainingthis will get your shredded, no plateus possibleim doing this rn and already lost 10kg in one monthno muscle loss either
>>76601461if you're in ketosis you have no carbs
>>76601452>you need to feel your heart pumping and sweatingI have been doing just that, i've broken a sweat and heavy breathing after my lifts and after my cardio.
My knees gave out on Thursday so I haven't done my 10k steps since Friday and I semi pigged out over the weekend.I hate myself, today I'm going back on the grind.
>>76601461>shilling a low fat diet>I lost 22 pounds in one month just eating at a small deficit, dude!lol
>>76601471you always have carbs aka blood sugareither by fat oxidation where adrenalin cuts the fatty acids and then uses the glycerin and converts it into carbs or cortisol raises and turns aminoacids aka muscle into glucose aswell>>76601478heavy breathing is to muchgo on a treadmill, walk at a 3.2mph pace, this is what the intensity needs to be likedo that as long as possible as often as possible day by dayyou will melt so fastdo that fasted aswell>>76601482stop eating anything with fat in itif you want to pig out eat lean meant and carbs
>>76601487i dont count my calroies at alland when i eat its one meal at nighteither rice or chicken breast till im full afim in a huge defecit
Is salt the enemy? I like my shit salty as can be.
>>76601503No, salt will make you store tons of excess water and increase your weight temporarily but you'll piss it all out.It has no effect on fat loss but just keep that in mind when weighing yourself.
Why no nuns today?>>76601503
>>76601127weak pussy
>>76601537I do not care what fatties on the internet sayyou can call me a weak pussy but I will be slaying pussy
>>76601503drink plenty of water and its fine as long as your blood pressure is normalpotassium works in tandem with sodium so you should consider supplementing it. there are salt substitutes or half salt half potassium ones you can use instead of normal salt.
>>76601541You need ozempig to reach in your mind 15 percent (it's more like 22 percent in reality)Sad ngmi
>>76601503use 50/50 salt50 sodium chloride and 50 potassium chloride
>>76601503I like salty stuff too, If I cook I use half salt half potassium. But I also sweat a lot so I like eating extra of it
>>76601503It’s extremely unnatural to eat saltSure your kidneys CAN deal with it, but that doesn’t mean you should burden them every single fucking day in your life
>>76601617>It’s extremely unnatural to eat saltHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHsincerely, all of natural history ever
>>76601560you will still be here in 3 monthsI will notstay mad
Once it becomes a habit, it gets easier. Just stick with it for a month. Push through the hard part and soon it will feel natural. That’s how it becomes a lifestyle. You’ve got this. You need to be able to look in the mirror and feel a deep, honest disgust. Let that fuel you. Use it. Hatred is going to be the spark that drives change. I believe in you, anon.
>>76600569Same here. Locking in again. Good news is I didn't gain anything even after eating however I want for over a month. Seems like I can at least somewhat maintain.
>>76601138Hi hatboy, always good to see you. Girlfriend wants to eat out all the time, but thankfully mostly places with a good selection of light dishes.
>>76600459Why no nuns? :(Since it's still the season and they're cheap and good, I'm just snacking bell peppers, no prep necessary, just eat them like apples. That and greek yogurt are my favorite healthy snacks at the moment.What are y'all snacking on? Or are you sticking to main meals only?
I find not eating breakfast helps me. Eat my first meal around 1.
>>76601667I never snack.But I do make cups of black tea or coffee betwixt meals.
>>76601667Almonds, skinny pop.
Fatty ContestAppalachianon318.0 lbsI've been away for too long and let myself go. Down six pounds in the last week, and it's time to get serious again.
>>76601653>You need to be able to look in the mirror and feel a deep, honest disgust. Let that fuel you. Use it. Hatred is going to be the spark that drives change.This, one look at my gut is the all motivation I need.
>>76601685I wish I still drank coffee, because for dieting it's so good. A satisfying drink plus the appetite suppression and energy of caffeine. What's not to love.But overall, the loss of sleep quality and anxiety wasn't worth it. And I'm too easily addicted to have it in moderation, better to cut out completely
>2. day fasting>did my 10km marchnow feel completely drained
>>76601745just remember every breath you take on an extended fast is letting out fat to push through itwhat I do anyway, wagmi
>>76601630Cope response to your salt addictionIt's understandable that it makes you angry
>>76601704Almonds are great, have to measure them out to not overindulge, but they have a good satiety/calories ratio
>>76601744Well... if it screws with your sleep maybe just have it with breakfast?
ok /fat/ you win. i'll count calories.
>>76601765Yeah for sure. They usually help when I have a craving after dinner. Just grab a small handful and I'm good to go.
>>76601659Yeah, just be mindful. My summer slump is starting to go away, the numbers are going down again, hit 220, 47lbs total thus far.
>>76601787Why count calories when you can just stop eating carbohydrates and lose your fat and preserve your muscle without any effort?
>>76601780Thanks, I do that very occasionally, but overall it's easier to just cut it out. If I have one on the morning, I want another one after lunch and then it goes south from there. At least that's how it usually went in the past when I tried moderation.Quitting almost completely was hard, but after two months or so it stuck.And the good part is, without a tolerance, caffeine is quite a powerful stimulant, there for you when you really need a pick me up.
>>76601803tried that, didn't work. felt like shit.
>>76601787One of us, one of us
>>76601807It takes some time to adapt and then you wont feel like shit, dont give up so quickly
Bros, help me figure out if im doing things right because the scale is fucking with me this past week.>183cm tall, 118kg>3x weight training a week, full body workout with dumbells+bench at home>40mins of cardio on stationary bike every day>eating 1700 calories a day, 140-150g protein>track every single thing i eat and drink on cronometer, weighing everything on a digital scale>eating mostly home cooked meals of lean protein and good carbs>5g creatine, multivitamin, omega3 supplements>dont eat 3 hours before bed>getting at least 7 hours of sleep daily>scale wont move
>>76601803could you just eat ground beef and melted cheese all day. i wonder what that would be like
Food eaten today>1 wrap>1 Bagel>3 Pork sausages>3 Bacon Rashers>3 Hash BrownsDon't know how many calories but i ain't eating anymore so big calorie deficit day.
>>76601822muscle is heavier than fat
>>76601867there is NO way im gaining muscle THAT fast, to off-set any fat loss on the scale...the only thing i can think of is water retention from creatine, but surely im coping about that.
>>76601822You are eating more than you claim>BUT NO NO I CANT BE NOOOOOOOO I AM NOTYes you are
>>76601855You would lose fat and feel good because you're not eating any carbs
>>76601503MFP tells me I'm going over my sodium count every day and I'm still losing weight plenty, just drink water
>>76601878
>>76601906This literally proves nothing
>>76601908Consider eating shit then dying.
>>76601912Have you considered losing weight, you stupid fat shit.
I can now actually discern layers, rolls and folds when I sit down instead of a singular massive blob of blubber. Progress? Progress. And there's an actual visible gap between my arms and my sides now. Feels good.I've still got a lot of fat to lose though. And that's just the subcutaneous one, I'm pretty sure I'm quite literally full of visceral fat. However, I am now coming to realise that underneath the mountain of lard I am but a mere twig. I've gotta sign up to the gym ASAP.>>76601822>this past weekA week is nothing. Plateaus happen. Just keep going and you'll start losing again. Breaking a plateaue feels better than sex (not that I know what sex feels like, being a land whale with no personality).
>>76601822>>76601822>>3x weight training a week, full body workout with dumbells+bench at home>>40mins of cardio on stationary bike every dayInflammation; causes water retention>>eating 1700 calories a day, 140-150g protein>>track every single thing i eat and drink on cronometer, weighing everything on a digital scaleCortisol from stress; causes water retention>>5g creatine, multivitamin, omega3 supplementsCreatine; causes water retention
>inflammation causes water retentionnow i finally fucking get why i weigh more when i sleep deprive myself
>>76601928Sleep deprivation can slow down fat burning for up to 55%.
>>76601639Nah you'll still be a fat dyel, needing drugs to get to 20 percent bodyfat is crazy work, your hormones and self control are totally fucked
>>76601939in this case specifically i weigh more than i did the day before so it's probably more likely to be water weightduly noted though anon
>>76601939How does that make sense, where does your body get energy from then, thin air?
>>76601921Would taking iburpofen daily offset inflammation caused by this?
>>76601939good luck explaining this one with CICO
>>76601946Yes and it would also ruin your kidneys
>>76601950
>>76601946How about you actually let your body do the things it needs to deal with your exercise and diet planIf you keep a deficit you will lose fat, who cares if you're holding onto some water
>>76601921nta (i'm >>76601928) but the inflammation caused by exercise is not the same "bad" inflammation caused by stress for example (there is some overlap but it's complicated)
>>76601960Yeah, I just stress too much about wasting time doing things wrong whenever this happens, I do track progress by using a tape measure too, but thats more of a every 2-4 weeks thing, im autistically obsessing about losing it asap and not wasting time, i should really trust the process, i would bet my life im measuring and tracking everything 100%, so i should be in a deficit, should just trust the process and keep going without worrying about the faggot-ass scale.
>>76601865Be careful with bacon, it's got way more calories than you might suspect from all the fat on it
>>76601944It's just delusions and retardation. It's simply about calories always has been always will be. You can sleep like shit, over train, elevate your cortisol etc etc etc you will lose weight when in a negative calorie balancehttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10807962/Took a bunch of guys gave them 4 hours of sleep, 16 hours a day of pack work (rucking) and barely any food and guess what? They all ended up at like 5 percent bodyfat. Don't listen to any of the fat retards who post here they all can't stop eating and start blaming everything else for failing to put the Twinkies down
>>76601976That study only collected salivary and serum data, there is no mention about bodyfatYou're full of shit
>>76601975Yeah true but i'm 6ft and 220lbs so i doubt its more than my daily TDEE
>>76601865thats roughly, 1734 calories. assuming you didnt add any condiments with any of that, drinks, and average calories for those items.
>>76601998I think one slice has 200 calories, 3 slices would be like a third of my calorie budget. Maybe the sizes are different in the UK/Ireland, seeing as you called them rashers.
>>76602012>1734 caloriesThis is the UK not Amerifat
>>76602017Yes a normal bacon rasher in the UK is like 70kcals
>>76602018i know, i got that when you said>bacon rashersi took the data from the average product from tesco.
Skinnyfat fag hereDo I really need to starve myself to lose my gut fat and get visible abs?
>>76602021Ah yeah you're probably fine then, amerilard portion sizes are fucked up
>>76602024I don't know what products you are looking at anon>Bacon rashers3x70kcal>Richmond Pork sausages3x140kcals>3 Hash Browns3x100kcals>Bagel220kcals>Wrap150kcalsSo should be around 1300kcals
>>76602030yepif you are not taking ozempic or some other drug, you will not lose weight unless you are hungry. It is literally that simple.
>>76602030yeah belly fat is the last to go for men
Anyone else here get paranoid about the products we eat having wrong numbers on the caloric estimate? Like whos to say company X isnt making a mistake when they say the thing you bought is 300 calories, and it actually is 500? you could be happily logging all the shit you eat, unknowningly eating many more calories than you think...
>>76602049Yes, this 100% happens. That is why you eat a small amount.
>>76602049If you're not happy dieting then you're not going to stick to your diet, if you're neurotic over every calorie you eat then you're not going to be happy dieting, it's better just not to worry about it
>>76602030You need to lift weights as well, nobody will diet into abs you have to have muscle to show it
Did we have a good workout today, fatties?
>>76602049>>76602051>>76602054>we could be eating up to 20% more calories than we think, all because of globohomo companies.
>>76602049then just stop eating
>>76602071Okay? If you're really that worried then eat 20% below your calories budget
>>76602049No because when I want to lose weight I don't try to ride the line of some miniscule deficit like 3-500 calories a day. Tracking everything, guessing on some online calculator, eating shit food because "I fit it inside my calories!" Just eat tuna chicken and veggies and boom scale go down every single day
>>76601944>where does your body get energy from thenmuscle probably
>>76602079Dont anon, the tards need to sink or swim on their own
I WILL NOT EAT UNTIL SCALE GOES THE FUCK DOWN
>>76602038>>76602039ShiiietABS are barely visible with lighting from above but the fat is still there, although I did notice there's less fat on my stomach when I lay down and look at it>>76602055I only have dumbbells but only one pair and I have no motivation to lift at home, there's a gym nearby but it's full or niggers and sandniggers so...
>>76602083Oh yeah, I'm sure you've so lean if you only get 3 hours of sleep one night your body decides to eat its own muscle tissues instead of the 100lbs of bodyfat kekekekekekekekekekeke
>>76602038>you will not lose weight unless you are hungryOnly if you're still addicted to carbs.
>>76602095Okay well either figure it out at a real gym or never get abs doesn't effect me any but I'm just telling you the truth. None of the "skinny" guys you see walking around irl have abs under their shirts just nasty skinny fat guys only the people who lift weights
>>76602065Not yet, waiting 2 hours since my last meal, then I'm about to put creed full blast and lift heavy shit. Chest, arms and back today.
>>76602095>I have no motivation to lift at homeSo you don't actually want visible abs. Why are you worried then?
>>76602095Fuck motivation. Just do it. Force yourself. >man i dont wanna do it todayjust say>SHUT THE FUCK UP PUSSY WERE DOING IT>b-but im tired and i dont wanna>KILL YOURSELF PUSSY WERE WORKING OUT TODAY JUST. DO IT.
>>76602112abs are made in the kitchen
>>76600459blog/i cut off potato chips entirely for 5 months now but i'm not losing weight at all.and no i'm not gaining muscle. i finished my newbie gains a long time ago and can't carry more weight. i'm not lifting but just doing commando pull ups to somewhat keep my gains. i can do 5 @210lbs 5'6".i've been trying to eat less carbs but it seems i'm not actually eating less since i'm not losing weight.i can't cope with hunger. i try not eating for a whole day but i can't sleep at night and end up eating like 7 eggs with bread because i can't stomach eggs without bread anymore since my last weight loss 10 years ago.tldr;i'm extremely mad that cutting off chips didn't result in weight loss.it seems i'll have to return to the bird of gains only diet. are chilli sauces with vinegar calorie heavy?/blog
>>76602120They aren't. That's why you couldn't post your abs rn if asked to. They are made in the gym and revealed in the kitchen. Dogshit harmful advice from steroid users. You have to have abs to show them. If you never train abs you probably will never get low enough BF for them to show because you'd have to be at such a low weight chronically living on less than 2k calories losing muscle everywhere else. Skinny people don't have abs. Fit people do
>>76602131Have you tried cutting out more than just chips you stupid faggot
>>76602106>>76602112>>76602119Guess you're rightJust did 100 crunchesTried looking for my dumbbells but I've lost one collar and don't really want the weight to drop on my floor or my bodyPlanning to go on ultra fast mode and do 100 crunches and push up every day or to my limit and will come back in a month guys
The Internet is full of guys asking "I'm skinny now, lost the weight but I have no abs" This is what happens to your "abs" if you think you can diet into them. 1000s of examples of this So if you want abs, lift and train abs
>>76602135the shitty foods i eat are potato chips, breads and rice.i thought cutting one out would help. turns out it doesn't.
>>76602143Cut out more then
who else /fraud/ here with GLP-1? on tirz rn and its insane. was already changing my life from my fatass habits but wow this shit helps like crazy with hunger. almost didn't eat my calories yesterday and had to force eat.
>>76602140>Just did 100 cruncheswhyDo situps while holding weight, one dumbbell is enough.
>>76602143Chips are dangerous because, while the bag is still in your kitchen, the temptation to go get more will always be there. Buy just one of the little bags if you really want some chips
>>76602155>Gigachad suggests training Abs with weight like you do any other muscleBased as fuck if I'm being honest
>>76602133I never said I had abs, abs come from low body fat which you get by being on a strict diet. Post abs
>>76602158Is it a muscle? Yes or no? Progressive overload that bitch.
>>76602167Abs come from well developed abdominal muscles+low body fatThere ya go lil bro, you're learning!I tried to diet my way to abs and it didn't work so I lift weights and now have abs. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk >>76602171Based knower of things
Are the mods not going to rangeban ketoschizo? He's been at it for 18 hours a day for months now.
>>76602213Why would they ban him, dont think he's breaking any rules
>>76602153Me, also on tirz (chinkmade)Just did my monday injection, feels good to not have infinite insatiable hunger
>>76602157i cut them off entirely for 5 months but didn't lose weight.>>76602145i get too fucking hungry. i plan on increasing protein and see how things go. perhaps eating only chicken breasts and salads.
>>76602243Try protein shakes, I have one in the morning and I'm barely hungry for the rest of the day
>>76602155This?I do have plates although the biggest are 5kg but I guess I could hold multiples if I manage to
>>76602243substitute one meal with a protein shake
>>76602241it's honestly insane. I think everyone who is serious about this and is a previous fatass should do it. The insatiable hunger is real and had me snacking all the fucking time (tracked, of course) and buying up protein shit. On that, I did find some good ones - hormbles chormbles for chocolate candy bar (peanut butter is the best flavor), promix puff bars are good (are not like rice krispies despite their marketing), tide treats are the closest to actual rice krispies (macros arent the best tho). legendary foods is complete ass, all their shit is garbage I do not recommend. anyway i get my shit compounded and its based af
>>76602276I personally think only people with the infinite hunger gene should take itI've gained weight on keto, on carnivore, on lowfat veganNo matter the diet, no matter how healthy I'm always hungryThen there are people who would actually just need to stop drinking fucking alcohol or stop drinking soft drinks and they will lose weight, lmao, we're not the same
>anon injecting himself full of Chinese bathtub chemicals and the only food he eats is artificial sweetener protein candy goy slopYeah, this is going to end well haha
>>76602286i get my shit compounded, eat mostly whole foods and have my goyslop in between. stay mad fatass
>76602320And I'm 6'9 with a 12 inch cock. Uh huh
After a weekend of resting and eating protein I am no stronger today than I was last Thursday. Finally hitting the point where my lifts are plateauing and my weight loss has slowed down as well. Now comes the pain.
FLUSH YOU GOT DAMN STUPID BODY FLUSH THE FUCKING WATER WEIGHT ALREADYU AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IOM< GOING INSANE FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>76602352I took a few days break from working out and it flushed.
despite eating the same total weekly amount as last week, in which i lost .7 pounds, i managed to gain nearly 1 pound this week. shit makes no sense.
>>76602352brah, the struggle is real. Down 25 lbs, first two weeks of bodyweight strength ramping up, greasing the groove to get to 100 pushups per day. Full rest day Sat, weighed in at 200 on the nose, tortured myself yesterday, ate too much salty meat for dinner, then had ice cream, today +4.2 lbs and puffy as shit. GOD FUCKING DAMN IT, no lunch today, black coffee until dinner, lmao fuck my life, I feel the puff plus light doms. On the plus side it feels nice to be able to crank out 50 push ups at a time dick to floor, but still waaaaaaah
>>76602414You fell for the CICO lie, all you had to do was stop eating carbs
Anyone here experience PSMF?
>>76602221>spamming, trolling, ban-evasion
Smoke weed for a week or two then just quit, the lack of appetite is crazy, and lasts a week or two, then you just repeat the process. Overcome the muchies when smoking (or stock up on baby carrots or celery if you must) and you found a natural form of ozempic when you take the 2 week break, plus it allows your tolerance to go down allowing you to enjoy the weed.
God gave us meaty, tasty, healthy and low calorie food in various varietiesand then made me too poor to eat them all the timeI'm seething. I'd be eating chantarelles, oyster mushrooms and porcini daily if I could. Sure kuehneromyces are cheaper, but they don't hit the same and they're still pretty expensive. No button mushrooms don't count.
>>76602451While he is annoying I wouldn't call anything he does spammingAnd are you really gonna cry about a troll on 4chan and ask for them to be banned? How is that even a rule, gay hallmonitor type of shit really
>>76602465What about those mushroom growth kits?
>>76602468Anon I'm not the guy you were talking to, but what the fuck are you talking about with "I wouldn't call anything he does spamming"Him and the people arguing with him (=falling for the bait) would be responsible for legitimately half to 60% of the posts in a thread. We'd hit bump limit so fast. I wouldn't mind as much if he tripfagged so I could filter him, but he doesn't and it's tiresome.
>>76601438you are expecting too much. at best with a 600 calorie deficit you would lose 0.55kg after a week. that's literally nothing compared to your daily fluctuations from water weight alone. so don't be a retard, don't look at a single data point, weight yourself every day and look at the graph.
>>76602469I haven't considered them. I did look into growing your own, but you needed like wet hay and to water the bucket daily, which seemed like a lot of work. You also needed a dark room with enough humidity, and I don't want any mold in my relatively small flat.Might look into some though, good idea. I do go foraging for chantarelles, which is very economical, but it's highly seasonal and they're the only fungi I'm not scared to forage, fungi foraging scares me otherwise.
>>76602471Yeah but most of it is a discussion, I don't think there should be a limit in how much a person is allowed to discuss hereSpamming would be posting, the same thing over and over without any change
>>76601503Salt is fine, with some caveats.Original studies looking into salt saw it being bad if you ate too much. That's where a lot of caution comes from in modern day.Subsequent follow up studies show that moderate-high salt intake is not nearly as bad as originally thought, and that you definitely need some amount of it to function properly; too little is just as bad as too much, and the goldilocks zone of salt extends pretty high on the high end. That said, way too much salt chronically can be bad for you, but generally you have to already be eating pretty unhealthy foods (e.g., ultraprocessed) to hit those levels. As a note, high BP can be alleviated through low salt intake (DASH diet). The source of high BP can vary, but the DASH diet is fairly good at helping lower BP. It caps sodium at 2300 mg (which is still a fairly decent amount), although 1500mg shows better results.
>>76601950>>76601946I take Ibuprofen daily for a chronic pain from disease, I take 600 1-2x a day. Have been for years. Kidneys are fine. Its fine as long as you don't go nuts; the bigger issue is ulcers if you take too much too often.
>>76602481>Yeah but most of it is a discussion, I don't think there should be a limit in how much a person is allowed to discuss hereFair point, I just want a way to not have to see it>Spamming would be posting, the same thing over and over without any changeI mean... that's what he does. The "discussion" is circular and the same thing over and over again. It's been the same thing over and over again for at least 4 years now. In the meantime I lost all my weight, got fat again, got depression, got it fixed, came back here and now I'm about halfway done with my weightloss again (hopefully a bit more sustainably this time). And this fucker is still doing it. This isn't a case of "he's arguing a bit too much" this is a case of someone posting all day, every day, for years. And yet, not saying more than he did 4 years ago.I guess too lax moderation and a sperg shitting up the thread is better than too harsh moderation in the end, but it's still a pain to deal with.I wish him all the best in the end, he's clearly got some sort of mental issues, no healthy person would behave that way. There's no malice on my part, I just wish I didn't have to see it. It's a bit like when you see an old friend who you haven't had contact with in years because he became a druggie. It makes you a bit sad to see and yet you know you can't change it.
>>76602153Been a month on that shit.It's amazing. Shit just works. Stop eating almost entirely if I wanted to.
so hungry...
>>76602481It's not discussion if you are not listening to arguments, and keep repeating the same points over and over again that have been refuted hundreds of times. At that point, it becomes trolling, spamming, and intentionally deceiving people with bad advice.
1 hour into my fast. Gonna pull a 48 hourer my negros
>>76602131just count calories bro, just do it, count every single calorie that enters your bodyone month is all it takes, you'll learn a lot about food and your body and decisionsit seems like a hassle before starting but after a while you'll ask yourself how could you have lived all your life without knowing this basic skill
Bros I've had it. I've had manboobs all my life and I hate it and myself. I lost 25kg, went from 96 to 71, was at the weight I'm supposed to be and they were STILL there. It destroyed me, I bounced back to my old weight. Now I'm trying to lift 3 times a week and cook and eat half a kilo of chicken breast every fucking day with brown rice and salad and god damn yogurts, I don't even have any hope but it's my last chance. I don't even mind my belly, I just hate my fucking manboobs and big fat ass.
>>76602785trannies would kill to be you
>>76602785shit sucks bro but you should have gone lower. did you take pictures? i can guarantee you that you lost some bra sizes without realising
>>76602785>I'm supposed to be and they were STILL therei'm having trouble with my chest fat/underarm fat too. I remember being this weight 7 years ago and i didnt have this much
>>76602793I didn't take pictures, maybe they did, but they were still absolutely there and I hated it. I tried going lower, but it was very difficult for me, like I couldn't keep up my usual deficit strats, I was just maintaining. Then my mom got a sudden aggressive cancer and I spent 3-4 months babysitting her, even after she got a stroke that killed 80% of her brain until she died - that shit made me not care one bit, I just fucking ATE it out... that was my biggest downfall. I'm now only 3 weeks in on my body recomposition moonshot, but I have low hopes.
>>76602817this is not reddit you big tiddied faggot, shove your sob story up your fat fucking asseat less or NGMI, end of story
>>76602821idgaf what you think this is or isn't, this is a fat loss thread and outside factors / changes in your life is a legit reason why you'd bounce back, I don't see why I can't talk about it
>>76602817the sloppening happened to a lot of us for different reasons and it's good that your making the effort to lose the weight.also post tits or gtfo faggit
>>76602848Sorry about that anon, he is a little hangry
>>76602848>mum died>this is a legit reason to eat an entire cheesecake
>>76602853ill eatcho mammaz cheesecake ifyouknowhatimean >:)
Fatty Contest MeltingButterGolem 354.5lbs
Will I develop abs while losing weight if I don't do ab targeting exercises? I do the main power lifts and some arm accessories
>>76602940You will always have abs they are integral to your anatomy, they might be pathetically small though depending on how much work they have or rather not have to do
>>76602940If you said this about any other muscle people would laugh in your face.>Why train biceps, with enough body fat loss you would still have them eventually!!11>Why train legs>Why train deltsIf you want to develop a muscle, train it. The main power lifts already do some, but if you want abs... why not just target them a little?
>>76600459Took my first dose (2mg) of retatrutide todayCall me a cheater idc
Fatty ContestReformedNihilist79.8kgi began at 115 kg, people can look at my arms and shoulders and tell im muscular (although my torso doesnt look good yet)ive come so far,just a few more months to go to finish my cutwagmi brosneuroticism is the worst disease in your fat loss journey,learning to let go is paradoxically what freed me after years of suffering.
>>76603004Rather be a thin cheater than a fat loser.
Fatty ContestObiWanJabroniWeight 253.8Height 6'1"
Lost another 400g in a day. Wasn't even that hungry.
>be fasting just fine, 24 hours in>someone starts cooking>salivation intensifies>the need to consume risingeh well today's an OMAD I guess
i got two comments about losing weight at work today.
>anons here are actually taking creatine>Forcing the Norwood reaper to come for their hairline>Can't even get girls when they get fit and healthy There are no shortcuts in life bros. Cur the creatine and meme supplements.
>76603506Imagine this posters room kek
The Norwood reaper shall come for you, mark my words.
How do I know if the Norwood reaper is coming or if it's just men's slow "natural" retraction of their hairline as they age?
>>76603551*fin+mins in your path*Nothin' personnel, kid.
the hunger demons are telling me to feast on even more food despite not being terribly hungry, all cause i already overate a lot todayto binge or not to binge
>>76603747>dick stops working
>>76603767You know what they say, it's not the quality of the erection but where you get to put it.
>>76603754don't eat dumbassjust think of hunger = fat loss
>>76603767>Choice between dick not working and nobody wanting your dick because you're bald.Rough.
>>76603789but im lonely, sad, and bored all at oncewanna make myself a big bowl of butter noodles
Would you say there's an ozembic/monj to roids pipeline?If you're not going to do weight loss "natty" why not go the whole way?
>>76603798>but im lonely, sadme too, tough shit but that's life>and boredthat's on you though, find something to occupy your mind or DIE FATTY DIE
>>76603801Glp1 sides are not even close to that of roids
>>76601439do you not have a job? thats how i stay busy and away from stuffing my face. some almonds on the way to work and a small lunch will typically keep me satisfied before dinner.
>>76603804>me too,ur not as lonely or sad as me
>>76603801im taking tirz right now and i can't say it hasnt made me think about gear, but honestly the sides are just garbo and id rather stay natty in that sense at least
I'm losing weight and eating healthy.but I haven't solved the dandruff issue yet.sometimes it itches so fucking bad that I'm scratching until I see blood on my finger nails.please i need help
>>76603835Have you tried t-gel shampoo?
>>76603835wash your hair every day, buy a silicon scalp massager, use every day etc.
>>76600569Fuck yeah anon WAGMI.
>>76603853He’s literally me
>>76601667Apples or baby carrots and humus is my go to.
Going to Sam's club tomorrow. Last time I went I got chips and cookies. Hoping to do better this time.
>>76603835Same problem. I've started wearing only light colored shirts out of embarrassment. I try not to scratch my head in public but the urge is maddening sometimes. I've tried two different kinds of medicated shampoo for months and even got memed into rubbing MCT oil on my scalp. No change. It makes me want to shave full cueball mode.Not sure what this has to do with losing weight, but just saying I know that feel bro.
>>76600569>eoy pushYou know it. Lets fucking gooo
>>76603840Yes, but it doesn't work, it only get rid of the oilyness but i still get flakes and itchyness
>>76603885If the cause of dandruff it's due to genetics the we got pwnd hard by god himself.That or a fucking fungus
Good morning /fat/, I'm back under 100kg fuuck yeah.Gonna be a nice weigh-in for the fatty contest this week I think. Fasting going strong. Tried doing RDLs after months of not doing em, ended up with my heaviest RDL set yet so I'm pretty happy that fasting is not using too muscle and I'm fine with the slight amount I might lose.Also /fat/, If a woman is looking into your eyes at a bar it means you better get the fuck away from there before she starts shit with you, right? Right? I think se was the first woman to ever show any sort of interest in me in at least 10 years that I have noticed. Not that I did anything since I'm a pussy, but its nice to know someone at least somewhat likes my looks (I probably just imagined the whole thing tho).
>>76602465>No button mushrooms don't count.These are the best though, others suck
>bunch of stuff happens and I end up eating party pies and sausage rolls straight out of the ovenI hurt myself today. Should be okay if it's all I eat today.
>>76604005>Should be okayAs long as you do as you say and actually stop eating. Everyone has bad days but you really need to lock the fuck in during those bad days so they don't become bad weeks or months so be careful bro. Real fucking easy to undo weeks worth of fat loss.
>50 lbs down from starting weight >still getting fresh stretch marksGoddammit
>>76604149This is your punishment
Any tips for "recomp"? I'm at bmi 23 now, I want to cut to at least 22, but my body fat percentage is still pretty bad. I don't know if I should keep cutting past 22, or hit average weight and just focus on building muscle.
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 103.75 kgOverall progress:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyMotivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZwtGnc-c
>>76602141he still has a few pounds of fat to lose
>>76602097>Hormone production sleepSleep plays a crucial role in hormone production, influencing various hormones that affect growth, repair, appetite control, stress management, and overall balance. During sleep, the body produces and regulates hormones such as growth hormone, cortisol, leptin, ghrelin, insulin, and serotonin.retard
>>76601976CICOtards are just that, retardshttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9031614/>there is an evident dysregulation of the neuroendocrine appetite control system during sleep deprivation that alters the metabolic rate, with a negative impact on weight maintenance or weight loss interventions [13,67].
>>76603798update: currently made the biggest bowl of pasta known to man kind, major regrets and guilt is to come, but for now, i will feast.
>>76604232>sleep deprivation makes you eat moreWhat do you think the CI in CICO stands for?
All I had to do was eat less. huh, interesting.
>>76604183Sub 100 soon. Nice one
>>76604241Go for an hour long walk after. It won't negate it, but it'll help. You can channel that guilty feeling for good.
>>76604259thats what I thought too, but then I got skinnyfat lovehandles and apparently you need to work out 3 days a week to get rid of those, and then you also need to have a min protein quota in the 130s or something, bit of a drag but if it gets rid of these damn handles im committing
>>76604289no can do, its almost 1am. its not all hopeless though, im fasting the next couple days to make up for all this mess. 2 day fast is my longest record though but that was before i learned abt electrolytes so hoping for 3+ days this time around :D
>>76604292the protein quotas on this board are overblown imo and you can get away with getting significantly less even if it isn't optimal, but it's true that people usually eat too little protein. I blame tv nutritionists and tree-huggers for making normies afraid of eating meat more than once or twice a week
How do you actually stop feeling hungry all the fucking time? Up until recently, I had been making relatively steady progress in losing weight (I gained it back but that's not relevant lel) yet no matter how long I went without gorging my normal amount of calories I never stopped wanting to eat. Is this normal? It's not just like food noise, I feel physical pain even when I'm consuming over 1500 calories. Is this just my body freaking out because it's having to burn fat? Am I stupid?
It's that time of the year again my niggas, that dreaded fucking period. It's time to cut, and not even a day in and I'm dreading it already. I just want to eat meat, milk and rice and keep hitting PRs, man. Whatever, let's fucking do this, we all gonna make it bruvs.
>>76604292>3 days week to kill lovehandlesi thought they just went away with fatloss, have I been wasting the past 6 months just dieting lmao
something at my local planet fitness smells like chicken nuggets and tonight I wasn't able to resist the temptationI'm really starting to hate planet fitness but LA fitness is expensive as fuck (they charge double what PF costs) and they aren't open 24/7
>>76604355also fuck mcdonalds, I tried the gold sauce today with the nuggets and it's just a copycat chick fila sauce. like, seriously niggers? give me some originality, I want an experience not some fucking slop
What's your goal weight? And what would your BMI be at that point?My goal right now is 75kg, which would put me at 21 BMI, little more than 4kg to go. But knowing myself, once I get there I'll probably want to continue. Probably to 70kg. Last time I went to 68kg, so 19 BMI, which DEFINITELY was too much and shows how you shouldn't put too much stock into BMI because that is within "normal" weight range, but I looked like a skeleton.
How the fuk do you get rid of a food addiction? Fasting? IM ALWAYS EATING. And when that "high" from the last thing I ate wears off, I eat again.
Day 3 fasting>2kg gone>scale says visceral fat went down as wellIs this like the weight loss speed run? i was going for 1kg weightloss a week with my diet but this fasting thing is kinda broken. today i have lost all hunger but i feel constantly warm, which is kinda weird
>>76604377Just stop eating nigga
>>76604383most of thats water unfortunately, reverse fatogenesis isnt a thingbut yes its a great way to accelerate losing weight
>>76604377>How the fuk do you get rid of a food addiction?fasting cured my food addiction, unironically
>>76604015It turns out it wasn't that bad in the end. I could even have a kangaroo burger with Eat Lean cheese and still be just in my TDEE.
>>76604383depends on how much you weighDuring the first 3 days like 50-70% of the weight will be either water or muscle that you will put back on immediately after refeeding, but it's still 10x faster than doing the calorie counting bullshitYour weight should have stabilized by now and if you keep going you'll start steadily losing only fatWe have an autist that does rolling 72 hour fasts and he lost 20 pounds in one month, as a reference >>76574402 >today i have lost all hunger but i feel constantly warm, which is kinda weirdyour body is freaking out since you aren't eating, around day 2 I start feeling light headed and euphoric, I've never gone longer than 3 days but I've experienced the same shit you're talking about where the hunger goes away (but you still can't stop thinking about food)I'm no longer fat enough to be able to do extended fasts without unbearable hunger, but I've heard that if you keep going after day 5 the cravings go away completely for a few days, usually over a week, until they come back. Good luck if you decide to keep going
finally figured out what was blowing up my knees on the stationary bike. scooching forward a bit made me have no knee problems and jump a resistance level. surprised such a small change fixed it
>>76604390How long did you fast for?
>>76604417why would a person want to go trough day 1+2 of fasting so often? does he just want to torture himself
>>76604423max I have done is 5 days and I would have kept going but I felt a bit light headed and didn't want to faintusual fast length is 3 days
60g of protein for breakfast made it a lot easier to control my appetite for the rest of the day
>was told that once I lose weight my pp will be bigger>lost 30 kg of weight>pp still smallKWAB
>>76604467I've lost 70 kg but the buried penis syndrome is still here, you need to lower body fat to ottermode basically to get rid of the FUPA, just keep grinding anon
>>76602038>you will not lose weight unless you are hungryNigger, this is what keto is for. It's easy to do a 500-600 calorie deficit without being hungry when you are in ketosis.
My computer chair gets more stiff and hard on my butt with each passing week.
i cannot stop touching my body
>>76602417Don't forget to balance it out with enough pulling motions as well.
>>76604540also easy with any non retarded diet if you have a decent amount of green veg
>>76604543>My computer chair gets more stiff and hard on my butt with each passing week.And I'm getting more stiff and hard in your butt with each passing second
SW: 370CW: 352.6Around two weeks in, calories anywhere between 1000-2000 daily
>>76604561turbo retardveggies aren't filling
>>76604585>fiber isnt fillingu wot m8
>>76604593it isn't, and unironically only retards that haven't tried carnivore think this
>>76604598https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10534722/
>>76604604I don't care about your studies>eat sausage + ground beef>go 10 hours without feeling hungry>eat rice, beans, and ground beef>hungry again in 5 hours
I ate a bunch of kfc and pizza.Ngmi
>>76604611grim desu
>>76604613Easily undid a week's worth of work.
>>76604604>>76604608do you retards even read the shit you link?>A randomized placebo-controlled intervention study was conducted to compare the effects of fiber-enriched foods to their non-enriched counterparts in adults over a 12-week period on selected clinical parameters—satiety, quality of life, body sensation, and life satisfaction>For the feeling of satiety, no difference was found between the intervention and control group at baseline, throughout, and at the end of the study.The only thing this study proves is>eat less junk food>eat more veggies>feel betterYeah no shit, if you cut out junk food you feel better.
>>76604611>>76604613>>76604617I've always wondered about this, is there a definitive answer to if that's how it works or not? did it ACTUALLY undo a weeks worth of progress if you ate a weeks worth of calories? Does the body, like, actually capture 100.00% of those calories?
like 95% of these studies that show "eating veggies = more gooder" mean nothing because they're introducing veggies into a diet filled with junk and seed oil fried carbs, like yeah no shit if you cut out the oreos and eat more carrots you'll feel better, that's not a high bar that proves veggies are great, it proves that industrially processed sludge of questionable safety for human consumption is not good for you
>>76604622Yeah, pretty much. Your body takes what it can from your food and you shit/piss out what it can't use, it stores what's left over of that energy as fat to use later, when you burn that energy it is exhausted from your body as you exhale CO2. Its really efficient at this. Its why you can, plan out your calories by just logging everything you eat and tallying up the calories taken in and used up, and its why cheat days are so counterproductive. If you slowly build up a 5000kcal deficit over the week and then binge 5000kcal of fried chicken and pizza you're right back where you started.All your energy comes in and out of your body the same way, through your face. You take in food, and you exhaust out the CO2 when you burn it. Your shit and piss was material your body had no use for.
>>76604642hm why have i never heard of OMAW? or fuck i mean if you're bad why not OMAM?there's more to this picture anon.
>>76603965>These are the best though, others suckYou're entitled to your opinion, but I find them the least "special" out of the ones I mentioned. They aren't bad by any means, just lacking in special character.They are great to snack on raw though, which none of the others are.
>>76604651If you fast that long between meals you might start getting vitamin deprived, electrolytes too. Its why people tend to limit fasting to 72h, you go much longer than that and you start depleting your electrolytes.Your body doesn't have a good way to store proteins or amino acids either so if you're lifting and trying to gain muscle you want a fairly steady supply of protein, so again why PSMF is preferred over just extended periods of fasting. OMAD or TMAD is usually fine for most people and goals.
>>76604651>hm why have i never heard of OMAWwhy don't you try going 6 days without food and get back to us
>OMAWIt'd be a challenge, but I bet I could totally cancel out six days of fasting with one gigantic meal
My weigh in this morning was 131.4, I expect at least 133 on the scale tomorrow.I feel horrid.
>>76604736are.. you're not serious are you? I'm on hour 31 as we speak, you're not seriously suggesting 6 days is impossible or anything, are you? Will you 'believe' it if i actually show you a screenshot in about four days, if i actually do it, or will you come up with a cope to dismiss it?
>>76604371I'm only aiming for 80kg. That'd be 21,7 BMI. I'm at 84,6/22,9 right now. 200 grams more than last week but who's counting, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Had a shit week and today fucking sucked too, I can't wait for this shit I'm dealing with to be done jfc.