>Who is /fat/ for?For Protein Poachers, working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Previous thread: >>76617472
>>76621998my arms feel fatigued and weak anons. what do I do to fix this? Already ate 1k calories and still feel weak
just don't eatis it really that difficult?
I ate a donut today but it only had 200 calories so when you think about it im really still fasting
>>76621971It was condensed milk actually
Put off weighing myself for a month out of anxiety but pleasantly surprised. Almost below 225 pounds, pretty good considering I started this year at 280 >>76622015Get a massage, makes your muscles feel better on low calories
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Another day, another 10k steps completed.
so hungry...
>Whole week busy AF, eating like an anorexic teenage girl.>Yogurt + cafeteria lunch + protein shake = 1100kcal>Not hungry at all, but lifts at the gym are shit>Finally had time to cook over the weekend some healthy food, full lunch + dinner + breakfast = 1900 kcal.>Literally nonstop hungrywtf
dumb zoomer here i'm obese and i want to go from being obese to being muscular. ChatGPT says i should eat more calories (eating 2000 a day right now, low carb high protein). It says I should eat 3000 and do lifting and very light cardio. What does /fit/ think? I thought lose weight, then bulk up but AI says eat more calories / more protein and lift heavier.Possible to stop being fat and build muscle at the same time? or focus on weight loss first?
>>76622088you are not eating 2000 calories if you are fat, you just dont know how to count them. maybe stop being retard and rather than using gpt slop read the fucking op post.
Is 187 to 180 in a week good or bad? 5'10" btw
>>76622115>read the OPthe one that says eat less calories and is tailored for fatties that just want to not be fatties and don't care about lifting. That OP?yeah fuck off
>>76622127>the one that says eat less calories and is tailoredThat retard zoomer literally wrote that he is obese, so yes, that is exactly for his fat assAnd also, how are you planning to lose weight while not being in a caloric deficit? Are you gonna run a half marathon each day, or what?>inb4 but CICO is bullshitok fatty
>seething fatties didn't even read the question no wonder this general is useless
>>76622127this is literally the thread for fatties
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ooga booga where the nuns at
>>76622188Not as bad as the title/thumb would suggest.The basic idea is that if your insulin is too high your body won't give up fat cells and therefore adjust by making it up in other areas.But I thought most overweight people became insulin resistant, so I have no idea how that comes into play.Seems like a way to down-low shill for glucose monitors.
12 kilos to go
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>don't eat anything during the morning>last I ate was around 8PM last night>by 1PM I'm feeling light-headed and feel like I'm gonna pass the fuck out>boss tells me I'm looking pale as shitfastingchads I kneel
>Almost at my goal weight>No happier>No further along in life>No more friends>No gf>Job still sucksI honestly convinced myself that getting fit would magically fix all my problems. I guess not. It is nice not being a fat blob but i honestly thought i'd be happier.
>>76622331DRINK YOUR ELECTROLYTES NIGGER
>eggs>sweet potatoesLet me guess... you need more?
Got 48 hours of the fast completed already so another 12, 16, or 24 to go depending on how I feel when I wake up. I wonder if I should make precautions for eating again or just eat as normal?
>>76622088>i'm obeseEat at maintenance if you are patient, or at a deficit if you want to see results faster and look different. It's much easier to look different by losing fat quickly than it is to build muscle.
>number on the scale going down>number on the bank account balance going up
>209.9 this morning >eat, shit and drink a half gallon water later on >finish exercise >weigh self for fun but won't record >209.9 >mfw the scale tricked me this morning again i'm on to you motherfucker
>>76622245that's literally how it works>insulin resistance develops when you're fat as fuck, overweight, and eating too much sugar / carbs / seed oils>body basically starves itself trying to lower your metabolism to function because it can't access stored fat because of insulinthe way to fix that is to cut out sugar and junk food. if not you'll feel like shit 24/7
I ate like 5000kcals today
>>76622537how
>>76622548Buy putting the food into my mouth like the piggy i am
today I was wrist deep in my love handles and feeling of my bone structure and I honestly do believe I was blessed with god tier muscle insertions and bone structure. The only weak points I have are that my pecs dont quite touch eachother all the way down to the sternum. But everything else I see is great. If just lose fat and gain muscle I will ascend.
>met this country girl>she is inviting me out to her ranch to eat "calf fries" which are balls of cowsDo you think this will increase my test levels? I didn't want to eat fried foods but I think I will make an exception if it means capturing the power level of a bull
>>76622656I think she wants your cock brother
Took a couple cheeky constipation pills so i'll poop my guts out for a new record low
ate 3000kcal todayno regrets because it was sorely neededwill return to my diet tomorrow
>>76622127I've been on 800 calories a day for a couple months now, i haven't gained strength but i haven't lost strength either. Idk what amount of calories you need to get stronger but i assume you can eat less than 2000. why dont you try 1600?>>76622656shes trying a little too hard. if the two of you get serious though you can raise chickens on her ranch for free eggs, so go eat the balls and impress her.
Can I lose 60 pounds in 9 months or do i lose 5 dollars
>>76622764that would be eating maybe 1200 cal a day. try to cut down empty calories like carbs/sugar/cheese so you can feel more full.
should i try orlistat(alli) in addition to counting calories and working out? any reason i shouldn't?
>>76622670Does this work?
>>76622764I'm 5 pounds away from doing this. Was 280 lbs in January and now at 226. Fumbled and stumbled constantly throughout, stagnated almost a whole month during the summer and only worked out 3 days a week.Depending on where you're starting from, its easy.
>started this attempt to lose weight by eating less 2 weeks ago>dad suddenly tells me he bought flights for us to go on a 5 day trip soon which would mean eating out for every meal>know I won't enjoy it if I'm attempting to track calories with restaurant mealsIf I just don't fucking eat food for 3-4 days before should everything even out? I'm fat but not TLC reality show star tier so I wouldn't be stuffing my face with 6 burgers a day while on vacation
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Fastingchads, do you need to reintroduce food slowly or is that a meme?
>>76622962Fasting Virgins ngmi
Fatty ContestBeefyWeiner190.0 lbs5'9"
>>76622020just don't breatheis it really that difficult?
>>76622022Technically the moment you swallowed the last bit of that donut you started fasting.
>>76622497>have brain>most powerful object in the universe, runs circles around super computers>so advanced we barely understand how it functions and it's basically advanced wizard magic >still can't even control basic body functions and has a thousand ways it can sabotage itself Brains are so dumb, just tell the body to use the fat. Gosh
>>76622967Need a serious answer and to decide what meal I should break a fast with
>>76623013light soups are pretty good, such as miso soup.try simple carbs as well, like crackers or rice.
>>76622332Getting fit is just walking up to the starting line of life. Fatties can't even do that, we're stuck in the stands watching the competitors. You've basically built the car and now you can go in any direction you want. You have the strength to reach out, find new friends, find a gf, find a better job. Before those weren't even realistic goals. Your life is objectively better, now you just have to reach out and grab as much as you can. Join a runners club or a country club. Take a few college courses in something you are interested in, seek out connections while you are there because that's how you get into jobs most of the time. If you are outgoing and active the gf will eventually come to you. That should be the last thing on your list. Don't give up bro, most people would kill to be in your position.
Ate 1400 calories today. This is so easy when you wake up at 3pm
>>76622548It's really not that hard, you can blast that out in one meal.
>>76623017I was thinking breaking with a few crackers for the salt, a banana for the potassium, and maybe a little yogurt or milk for some light protein. Think it would work? What kind of time am I supposed to leave between that and actually eating something substantial like chicken and potatoes anyway?
>>76622775>empty calories>cheeseretard
>>76623035Depends.I'm pretty sure that american cheese is empty slop.
>start doing one meal a day for the past 2 weeks>no more snacks. No chips, no ice cream, no Reese's, no midnight meals, nothing. Just one meal>after 2 weeks, go from 155 to 147>face actually looks betterI think the snacks were having some affect on my face. Probably grease or something. But even though I haven't lost my fat yet, I think there's a noticeable difference in my face alone.
Is there a thing I can buy that counts my calories for me im lazy
What calorie trackers do you guys use? I’m looking for one where I can set my own custom calorie goal into it. All the ones I have downloaded don’t allow more than 2lbs weight loss a week
>>76623110samsung health
>>76622962I'd do it just to be safe. add like 400 cal to your diet every day
>>76623035for the calories, yes, you get basically nothing out of eating 100cal of cheese compared to 100 cal of anything else
>>76623133retard
>>76622088It's possible to do a recomp but it takes a significant amount of effort, like maybe an hour every day working out. Since you're starting out on zero muscle doing baby weight exercises you don't use many calories but you still gain a little bit of muscle so it'll look like you're getting fatter at first. Plus if you're really obese you may be stretching out your skin. The fat loss part comes later after you've bloated up a bit and have left humanity behind and can do high intensity exercises indefinitely. Watch your diet, weight and calorie use very carefully at all times.It'll be easier to diet off down to human body weight and go from there and you get to see results much quicker. You don't have to worry about losing muscle because you don't have any but you do have to transition through skinnyfat mode.But hey, you're young. You can do it if you wanted to. It's absolutely possible if you do the work, you'll probably enjoy doing the recomp more.
>>76623110Cronometer, with my Garmin account connected to it (the active calories estimate from the watch is pretty on spot for me). Great to make sure that I eat enough actually during a cut.
>weighed 5 pounds less on Friday>Weighed myself right now>Gained 5 pounds somehowWhat the fuck.
I'm counting calories... and it's working wtf?!?!? This is so easy, why didn't I try this a long time ago?
>>76623198because you're a fat retarded faggot
>>76623211>fattrue>retardedmaybe>faggotgod I wish, the worst mistakes in my life have revolved around women
>>76619802What is wrong with your ribs? They look out of place. How do you have a big belly but a huge dent above that?
>>76623165Happened to me after a cheat day a couple weeks back but now I am down to where I was on the scale.
I don't like feeling hungry, I can't focus on anything else but the intrusive thoughts.
>>76623248Man, how the fuck do I gain five pounds in a single day?
>>76623259Tunch penor
>ate another protein barGoddamnit. They’re so fucking good but really not that filling for 180 calories.
How do you guys work out 7 days a week? I need to take Saturday and Sunday off for my body to rest up
>>76623392I don’t. Unless you count 20 minutes of incline walking as working out.
>>76623392No one does that, who told you to do that?
I just want to be able to walk again, I want to feel the sun on my face and the wind in my balding hair. It would help me lose the weight so much faster too. Sigh
Had a cheat day and hit my maintenance calories yesterday, it felt awful.Back to sub 1k per day for the rest of the week I guess.
>>76623392It’s called discipline bro. Stop being a pussy and work harder. I work out twice a day 7 days a week so 14 work outs a week
>>76623439yet ur still fat
>>76623399I do like a 1 hour and 30-minute walks each day followed by a 1-hour of Beginner aerobics>>76623403/fit/
>>76623392cardio dailymuscles every 3rd dayits ok to rest but you should try to work up to daily cardio
How much calories do you guys eat each day? I eat less than 1k calories, and I feel like I don't lose that much weigh. Meanwhile, all of my daily workouts are burns up like 1.5k calories daily.
>>76623567>all of my daily workouts are burns up like 1.5k calories dailylmao no
>>76623567what i'd give for 2500+ to be extreme weight loss for meshits not fair
>>76623567>all of my daily workouts are burns up like 1.5k calories daily.I hope you realize that's like 4-5 hours of cardio every dayif you don't work in some self destructing job like construction, you aren't burning anywhere near that much
> breakfast: 4 scrambled eggs in butter + left over liver stir fried with onions + a couple short ribs> lunch: 12 thicc sashimi combo> snack: 600 cal Rebel ice creamAnd I will still have lost weight in my weigh in tomorrow. Meat heavy keto is so easy bros, WAGMI.
>>76623613>Rebel ice creamshit I haven't had ice cream in months and my local supermarket sells this... should I go buy some now?
>>76623567>>76623576>>76623596Wait how is he not losing weight if he’s eating less than a 1000 calories a day? Wouldn’t he lose weight even if he’s not accurately watching his calorie burns?
>>76623615It may be a slippery slope but if you are doing keto its pretty good anon, not as much shit in these like Halo top so it never gives me any digestion issues (it really is mostly cream).
>>76623624my dude he said he burns 1.5k calories a day doing exercise (lmao)and you believe him when he says he eats less than 1k calories a day?
>>76623567>pro athlete levels of caloric burn on anorexic girl intakeDoes not compute
>>76623634>>76623596I do have my doubts about my caloric burns, but at the same time, I have lost weight rapidly over the days/weeks that I can’t tell if it’s my daily walks, or my diet that’s causing me to lose weight.
>>76623613Halo Top has way fewer calories than Rebel so what’s the point?
Day 2 carnivore omadthat was way more ground beef than I thought, I couldn't finish it all
>>76623666DO NOT TRUST LOSEIT EXERCISE CALORIES
>>76623666Yeah you're dumb as fuck satan.
>>76623681>carnivore>vegetableshmmm
>>76623682I don't, I have an apple watch to check for my caloric burns
>>76623684jesus pls go
I'm drinking a 2 liter bottle of coke zero every single dayonly way of keeping myself sane at this point
>>76623688im not picky with what I consider carnivoreI also eat honey, my definition of "carnivore" is 90%+ of my calories come from meat, dairy, and eggsI did 100% carnivore a few years ago and it was okay, but it's so much better and easier to stick to if you allow yourself to eat small non carnivore shit like sauces or energy drinks or flavored coffee creamer
>>76623705Never drank diet drinks all my life. Couldn't stand the fake taste. But recently tried a coke zero and couldn't believe how much closer it was to the real thing. Now I've got a bunch of cans in my fridge. But I only drink one or two of those half sized cans a day. A 2 liter is just asking for trouble you need to cut back. Just because it doesn't have sugar doesn't mean it's still not bad for you. Try different teas and coffees or just really cold ice water.
>>76623705>2 liter bottle of coke zero every single dayso instead of dying from obesity you'll die of ass cancer?
>>76623709Fair enough, hope it works out for you. I've considered trying it a few times but I'm too poor to eat only meat. Shit's gotten retarded expensive, even at walmart the dogshit pigs asshole tier ground beef is 5 dollars a pound.
>>76623720Yeah I'm not strapped with cash either but it saves me money now since I'm no longer eating out, if it wasn't for the energy drinks I would be eating at around $7-8 a day. I buy all my shit in bulk from costco and eat primarily sausage / eggs / ground beef (that salmon is the cheap pink shit from walmart that usually comes canned, it was $7/lb). Unfortunately there's nowhere you can get ground beef for under $5/lb anymore.
>from 253lbs to 220....nice.
>>76623768Nice, I went from 350lbs to 320 in a month. Here's hoping I go from 320 to 280 by the end of the year.
>>76623768Heh I started at the same weight and I’m 232 right now. Don’t slip up or I’ll surpass you
>>76623613>>76623615>600 cal Rebel ice creamnigger what the fuck is wrong with you? That's the entire fucking pint of ice creamyou're dropping $200+ a month on ice cream
>>76623779>dropping $200+ a month on ice creamWho said I'm eating the same thing every day retard? Also, you should focus on making more money if you think $200 is a lot for literally a third of your calories in a month.
>>76623776>>76623770good jobs friends... we're all gonna make it.
>>76623789I think the problem is more you getting a third of your calories from ice cream. You need to reexamine your life.
>>76623802You are not very bright are you
>>76623804I'm not the one eating a shamu's worth of ice cream. You should stop coping and learn some discipline instead of relying on massive crutches.
What tips do you guys have for going back to the gym? I haven’t been in a gym for a solid 5 years and I never did weights. I legitimately don’t know what the fuck I’m doing. I plan to keep a consistent schedule, but outside of that I’m clueless.
>>76623827Get a personal trainer, or join an aerobic class.
>>76623838Current facilities are a work gym and apt gym. No trainer available. I guess I could go someplace but kinda silly if I already have the facilities. There is also yt… I think it’s just fear of making an ass out of myself even though being overweight kind of already did that.
>>76623827Start simple and easyEmpty barbell, low weights, focus on form, swallow your pride because you feel like a bitch with small weights (at least I did)correct form will save you from injury and small weight progression between sessions will let you get to challenging weights without you wrecking your shit because you went to heavy to quickly without a feel for correct form and execution5x5 stronglifts is great for noobs, and when you inevitably plateau/stall, your form should be adept enough to move into other, more goal oriented programs
>>76623858Worth the shot, thanks! I think that’ll work out nicely as I’be been working with 30lb dumbbells at home. Checking out stronglifts now. I might pick a crazy hour to start at the gym and then work my way to thr after work crowd once I’m a bit more confident in what I’m doing
>Reddit says that walking one mile burns only a 100 calories>Fitness/Health websites says the fatter you are, the more you burn calories than the average normal weight person Who’s right?
>>76623898Both. Reddit doesn’t look past generalizations because they’re incapable of independent thought. If you’re a fat fuck you’re moving a lot more weight. In theory you could try to calculate this but chances are the calculation won’t be tailored to you and you’ll fuck it up anyways, so it’s just best to go with the Reddit generalization and take the extra burnt calories as a bonus. No extra Oreos for you.
What happened to that one guy who said he was doing keto but kept gaining a ton of weight while acting like he was losing?
>>76623926that never happened
>>76623937Guess you're that guy, you still gaining?
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>>76623939yesNO!
Someone should make a compilation of all the drama we've had over the years. There was that time two fatties kept sabotaging the others weigh in's. The anorexic swedish girl and the cabin hot sauce guy. The ketoschizo's. I'm sure there's others I'm not aware of.
>>76623926That was me for the last 4 years but with CICO
>>76623949The fag who overdosed based on some bad /fit/ advice and then was keeping dossiers on everyone who posted pictures and finding them irl
Doing keto only makes sense if you're prolonged fasting as well desuOtherwise you may as well just eat a regular nutritious/healthy diet with no processed garbage
You know, I miss being sedentary, took me an hour and a half to walk two miles when I first tried walking and lose weight. Now I can walk 2 miles in under an hour and my weight lose is less.
>>76622497>>76621998This shit confuses me, so if I'm fat from eating shit food and my TDEE is 1900 and I switch to eating 1200 daily but eat that same sort of stuff, by body will just never lose fat even with a big caloric deficit because insulin resistance?
>>76624028less food = lower insulin spikes = less time before your body can access stored fat reservesyou will lose weight if you eat less food, but if your TDEE is 1900 and you're eating 1200 calories of sugar you won't be losing 700 calories worth of fat each day
>>76615891Congrats bro, you deserve it that is hardcore. Hope you make it.
>Thinking of doing 20000 steps starting mondayThis won't fuck with my legs right for later use, right? I need to know since I plan on doing Aerobics after I'm done doing those steps.
i binged again today :( how do i stop? i do well for 2-3 days then i binge
When my cut is over I’m having a halo top pint every day with peanut butter and shell chocolate chips and chocolate chips.>you’ll let reboundOh I’ll keep my calories in check. I’m just going to fit that into it.
>>76624127Identify your triggers. You’re substituting anxiety with eating to calm nerves. When you feel like binging do something else. Less ideally, replace your binge with something low cal, ie yogurt or black coffee. That way you feel like you’re getting a reward. Least ideally, nicotine in the short term. I have a theory that excessive caffeine intake inflames binging.
New PB, 34" waist!
>>76624154Thank you, I will try this next time
>hit 240lbs >mind falls apart, reach 270lbs in 2 months>hit 240lbs, push harder into the apathy, even harder>hit 235lbs>mind falls apart, reach 280lbs>now 30, 270lbs>starting againpayed a hooker to take my virginity and then stuck a 12 gauge in my mouth but couldnt even pull the trigger. Makes sense if i cant even reach a goal how could i be man enough to kill myself.This time for real though, 200lbs by july
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>>76621998Anyone have any experience with keto (high fat low carb moderate protein) OMAD?I've been trying to get started but every day I fail. I wake up and have a cup of coffee with milk and tons of sugar. I feel like I am being a lazy bitch.
>>76624343I did that or energy drinks daily, but was forced to quit due to a health incident.I 100% believe caffeine was a contributor to my repeat failing.It has been much easier without it.It's a bitch to quit though unless you are forced, so not sure if you want or can do it.
>>76624350How much did you lose and how much did you have to lose and what are you doing now?
Threadly reminder that WAGMI
>>76624365I've lost 25 kg from 117 over about 7 months. Not quite the 1 kg a week, but I mean it's fairly close for 0 exercise.I'm still losing weight obviously, only now starting to add exercise.This is the first time I didn't just yoyo it like lose some then regain lose some and regain as usual.I'm 100% sure it's related to me dropping caffeine. It always came with cravings, maybe because of the added sugar, maybe because of the stimulant nature of it, but sitting on your ass all day you really don't need it.Even with ADHD I don't think it was worth it in the long run.Then again this is one retard on the internet saying this and as I said I was forced to give it up due to heart issues. It wasn't a choice. Maybe others can share their experience.I reckon with exercise I can hit 80kg by Christmas. Forcing myself to move has been infinitely more challenging than eating less.I don't get cravings anymore at all and I struggle stuffing myself like I used to even on the rare occasion. Sweets taste toxic aside from fruits, so I usually eat some frozen fruits if I want to.Doing stuff, anything really is still a struggle. Somehow days still pass by real fast.
Anyone on mounjaro? All the places to talk about it are filled with like 400lb women and it's really hard to find anywhere for men who are fat but not 300+
>>76624383> I've lost 25 kg from 117 over about 7 months. Not quite the 1 kg a week, but I mean it's fairly close for 0 exercise.Yeah this still pretty good. All weight loss is good weight loss and at 1kg/week that's still awesome. > It always came with cravings, maybe because of the added sugar, maybe because of the stimulant nature of it, but sitting on your ass all day you really don't need it.Are you saying you had sweetened energy drinks like Red Bull with sugar and Monster with sugar while on keto OMAD? Because of course that's going to knock out off ketosis. Even if artificially sweetened energy drinks when I would fast would make me hungrier. Like I would develop cravings and I would cave in and have an energy drink and then it would make me even hungrier a couple hours later. So it's better to just push through your cravings then have one of these artificially sweetened beverages and be hungrier later.> I don't get cravings anymore at all and I struggle stuffing myself like I used to even on the rare occasionAnd you attribute this to quitting caffeine? What diet are you on now?
>>76624198I know how it feels. Got down to 200 during the pandemic then afterwards my weight exploded to 340. Even had suicidal ideation that I could never go through with to the point where I was practically praying a heart attack would take me out in my sleep. I’m at 280 now. You’ve already proved that you can get to a healthier weight. We’re going to make it and never look back.
>>76624402I just shared my thoughts on the caffeine part in particular.I do not do keto or anything overcomplicated, because I don't think that is conducive to long term losses for people like me who are lazy.I just eat less and eat clean. No sugar aside from the occasional cup of frozen fruits. My staples are oats and chicken breasts which I loved even before the diet as it has a dry texture.I don't deny myself noodles and stuff like that. I eat ready made Chinese noodles and others too at times it's around 600 calories a pop, easy to gauge how much I had a day.As you say, sweets might have been the primary issue not necessarily the caffeine, though I'm 100% sure it contributes. My lifestyle is sitting at the PC all day.So an energy drink would usually trigger the eating out of boredom I guess. Same with black coffee. Stimulant demands you do something and if you are already on the PC the only other thing to do was eating.I'm not here to give sage advice. Sorry if it came off as that, but the anon says he is a lazy fuck too so who knows, maybe it could help grease the gears for him too.Not on any real "diet". Nowadays I struggle to eat 1500cals on some days as I just do not need it for sitting around all day.This is as lazy as it can get I think.When I first started I ate bone broth soup idk what you call it in English (with some coocked chicken breasts) and oats for a week, then added things slowly.After that I no longer craved sugary shit at all and as I said the old snacks I used to have started tasting toxic.I can do this because I work from home and do nothing all day. If you have a physical job this would be a major struggle I'm sure. I'm quite scared of starting exercise as it would probably make me hungry again.
>>76624426cooked chicken* I usually just leave it in the bone broth. Don't like the meat used for bone broth as it is too soft. I prefer to toss in some chicken breasts.
>>76622367People say all sorts of shit on what to eat after a fast, like start slow, eat very little, drink a shake, eat some lean meat, eat a salad... it's all bullshit. When I break a fast, I eat like a fucking pig. Just don't eat too many carbs / processed bullshit, it will spike your insulin too much and that will prevent your body from accessing fat as an energy source.
Is walking 5 miles a day a good way to have caloric deficit, or do I have to up to 7?
>>76593133Late response but might as well. I preffer to make daily updates because it keep things tight and clear. Each time I try to mix things up I get instant feedback and remind myself that cheat days only cheat myself.
>>76624367Feeling it less and less tbf. I lost another kg but I feel like my gut is feels the same, lost a cm there maybe. bf20% if I did according to the calculator, 21% if I didn't.
Fatty ContestZackMan97.9kg190cm
>>76623382Most protein bars are candy with marketing. Eat some Skyr if you want a protein snack. With berries and sweetener if you crave sweet >>76623596100watts of power equals 360cal per hour. That's untrained beginners level of power. Somewhat trained amateurs push 120-150W average, so up to 500-600cal/hour. That's just a biophysiological fact.Calorie apps without a powermeter exaggerate wildly, but that should give you a guideline.
Fatty ContestGreaser94.4kg
>>76624497>Calorie apps without a powermeter exaggerate wildly, but that should give you a guideline.Are Apple watches accurate enough to count calories burn?
>>76624514Chest straps are more accurate. Get used to wearing a bra.
We choose to go to BMI 14s, not because it is easy but because it is hard... Not unlike the impacted turd that obstructed both my colon and my weight loss journey for four days.
>>76624533i didnt know women browsed here
>>76624533post pics, im genuinely curious what kind of monstrosity you look like
>>76621998Fatty ContestReodorFelgen78.3kg
I'm so thirsty since I started losing weight
>>76621998Fatty ContestFatverick213.8lbsgf broke up with me, said she still loves me but isn't built for a relationship. blocked her on everything to save us the trouble because she kept messagine me trying to be friends. at least my weight is down.
>>76624514That's a bit better, but the only relevant metric they have available is heart rate. Tricky thing is again, calories burnt depend on the power you're pushing. A trained professional athlete can push 400W for an hour with a heart rate of 150 or so. An amateur would be lucky to push half that and therefore will burn only half the calories while the same heart rate. Anything based on heart rate has almost no idea how your heart rate relates to your actual power production. So they have to guess and usually guess high, to flatter your ego. Ballpark of 400-600cal per hour of cardio is good enough to guesstimate for most people. If you want to get a better feel, get on a bike with a powermeter.And of course, don't make the classic mistake of "I exercised away 600cals, therefore I get to eat all that back". For dealing with weight loss, cals burned from cardio are a nice bonus, but you should not eat over tdee and hope to make up the difference with exercise, that's a trap. (Assuming normal fatties with normal exercise volume like 30min to 1h average . Things are different if you're doing multiple hours, then you need to fuel at some point or you'll crash)
>>76624651Sorry man. Clean cut is probably best then. Use the emotions to push you towards your goals
>>76624651> said she still loves me but isn't built for a relationshipWoman moment
>>76624679she was head over heels for me when we first met, calling me handsome and making pinterest boards for me and then when I started reciprocating she slowly started to stop liking me.
>>76624686Don't worry. She'll forget all about you the first time she fucks jamal.
Well thats dinner. What do i eat to hit my macro goals lol
SW: 370CW: 347.63 weeks in, clothes fitting better
>My arms and face are now toned a bitFeels good man, I'm also used to working out my arms so I'm thinking of moving into the 2nd phase now and starting on my fat man tits with chest workouts and then I'll only have the belly to worry about, 3rd phase I'll see if my ass and legs don't disappear by then although I've already started exercising my legs(flexibility mainly) and i can already lift my leg to head height.My biggest problem with chest workouts was how they needed me to lay down which i hated but i think it'll work out now after i do a bit of research, also i need to check if i can finally do push ups consistently
>73kg>Still got belly fatGetting a bit worried now
>>76624737Post body
>>76624741Would rather kill myself
>>76624746Post body before you do that then
I'm starting to binge again, i can feel my mind breaking....
>>76622188Wasn't he exposed as a fraud with a meme degree and switching his advice to new popular anti-mainstream thing?
I'm good at cutting but damn, I wish I was more creative food-wise.>Try to lose ~1kg a week (done this before, don't judge)>1500 - 2000 kcals a day>Basically have 5 eggs, 2 fruits, 300g of chicken and a protein shake a day>Can barely fit anything else in and protein could still be higherWith so little calories there's not much room for anything but chicken. I've done this before and looked great (was stronger back then though), hopefully I can get back to that level.
You can do it lads.Become the skeleton.
>>76624803I'm currently skeletonmaxxing
i want to lose weight so my ass isn't so fat my husband keeps slipping out
>>76624606Burning fat requires water, drink more water. Depending on your diet you could be low on electrolytes too.
>>76624799Just change chicken for any fish.
>>76624839I do sometimes with that ... trashfish panga? And tuna sometimes of course.
>>76624799replace the protein shake for real foodavoid fruits unless they're really low kcal
Does anyone here smoke cigarettes?Do you find that smoking cigarettes compels to want to go eat something to cleanse your mouth. This is a problem I am having. The food can be anything from a carrot to bread.
>>76624923Nope. Are you new to smoking?
>fast for a few days>barely looking that much leanerWhat the fuck?
>>76624931You expected a difference in a few days? Are you retarded?
Hold you head high and keep moving forward.
>>76624939I'm already fairly lean, the navy bf calc puts me at 11.8% right now. I know that's not entirely accurate since I'm depleted but still 2lbs or so of fat has to be a percentage point or so but I'm surprised I can't notice much unless I'm just not looking closely.
>>76624953Post body or larp
>>76624931>eat like a pig on the weekend (celebration with friends)>fast for 2 days>eat normal / healthy after fast + go to gym>weight stabilizes from fasting after a couple days>lost weight, look leaner than before I ate like a pig on the weekendIt's literally that simple. Now if you didn't eat like a pig, like me, on top of that, you should see even more progress. What are you even complaining about
>>76624953Fasting will do less for you the lower your bf%. Not a big surprise here. The last couple %-points to lose are literal hell on earth
>>76624956I'd larp about something much more impressive if I was actually doing that but I genuinely don't see much difference and I thought I would, I don't have a whole lot of muscle and my lifts are hovering just under 1/2/3/4>>76624962I'm down around 7.5lbs since the start and I've been keeping active to keep my TDEE up (2800-3000) so I figured I'd get almost 2lbs of fat but I guess the rest was just water>>76624957So I should just give fasting for one day a try in future and eat at maintenance or slightly under the rest of the week to maintain a lower bf whilst lifting?
>>76624966Post body faggot larper
I feel like I'm starting to have ozempic face and I don't even use ozempic.
>>76624970I'm not posting body but what's unbelievable about that?
>>76624979>ozempic facewhat
>>76624930I've been cigs for 6 years now
>Wake up call was a family vacation to Universal where I did not fit on half the rides.
starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8current weight: 107.2 kg 15/9goal weight: 70 kgheight: 179 cmmethod: rolling 72s with salt water and coffee
Fatty ContestBetterNateThanLever213.9 lbsGot fed too much food at a family gathering, felt like I was going to explode. I can't eat like I used to. Don't even want to look at food today.
>>76625084Hi hatboy, good to see you. Hope all is well and stay strong fren!>>76625107What are your stats? Just curious, I'd have assumed that American amusement parks would be well prepared for the big boys.
>>76625084We all have to stay strong
>>76625116340lbs at 5'11"48" waistI could get away with lap bar stuff but the over the shoulder restraints were well out.It was more like a quarter of the rides, but all the really fun ones.
>>76625129Ok, that's pretty big. Guess you also have serious issues with airplane seats.Well, you're in the right place. Read the sticky, follow it, keep hanging out here and keep yourself accountable. If you got underlying psychological issues, confront them.It's simple but not easy. Good luck my man!
>>76624384I'm on mounjaro (self-prescribed chink version), 220 lb maleIdk what's there to talk about, its a great cheatcode
>>76625180jesus those needles are huge wtf
>>76624803why does he look so old now
>>76625186The big one is to draw, 0.5 to pinNo biggie for sub Q injection
>>76625180Have you tried putting down the fork?This shit has nasty side effects
>>76625195I tried putting down the fork for 15 years, my hunger is simply too powerful no memediet worksI just wish I knew about this earlier wouldn't have ballooned up to 300+ lb
chatgpt says that me eating 1700 cal is too little
>>76625195Like what? A colleague is taking, curious what to look for. Also shit is expensive as fuck, I'd rather fast for a couple days
Has anyone tried full day fasts every other day? Like eating at maintenance one day or even above maintenance, but then fasting the next day?
>>76625211>chatGPTkill yourself>>76625224I lost 50-60lbs doing OMAD under maintenance and fasting the next day, then OMAD again. Works wonders.
>>76625224Tried? Yep, but ended up pigging out way too hard on feast daysIt works fine for a few weeks but then you just get hungrier and hungrier
>>76625230What’s the hostility for
>>76625224No, but if you were to assume a TDEE of 2500, it seems like eating at a -1250 deficit every day would be better and more sustainable, at least to me anyway
>>76625236AIs are fucking dogshit and you're a retard polluting the gene pool if you can't figure out simple shit without it.
>>76625224Highly depends on your diet, too. This is more sustainable to do if you're in ketosis. If not, insulin spikes and all that shit will fuck with your fat burning. The body adapting to ketosis (which is all that fasting is) for just one day, then going back to a "normal" diet will not burn as much fat as if you did 2 or 3 days every other week - or fuck, even every week. Plus, coming from a normal diet into a 1 day fast is exhausting as fuck, because you're going through the ketosis-adjusting every single fucking time. It gets extremely mentally draining after a couple weeks.
>>76625230OMAD may be difficult to get into cold-turkey, but I can see the vision. Nice work on the loss though!>>76625233>>76625237I was thinking of encorporating some sort of training on the feast days like I do boxing drills and swimming already regularly. I may not build muscle but I do need to keep my cardio at a healthy level so that im not bed-rotting on my fast days.
>>76625262honestly it wasnt that hard to get into for me. I was already used to not eat much if at all all day and have a nice big dinner.>>76625237imo eating only 1250kcal a day is much harder to achieve unless I gorge on basically just vegs with some protein.I'd rather have zero cals one day and 2000kcal the next.
>>76625262Cardio is possible and even welcome during a fast - just don't expect to be able to do the same sort of intensity you're used to.
>>76625257Exercise plays a big part into this. Having non-keto meals to replenish glycogen for a workout makes the body adapt to ketosis much more smoothly when coupled with training. Also basically it would be 36 hours of fasting which your body goes into full ketosis after 12-16 hours.
>>76621998>regularly losing weight>OMAD leaves me feeling good, and it just happens to work out on average for 1000 calorie deficit/day>slow but methodical weight loss>hit a plateau; its fine, but for a week my weight doesn't change.>yesterday went to a music festival. Ate burgers and fries, drank like 6 beers, went all out for a break; ended up closer to 1000 calories over TDEE>weight today, down 4 lbs and a new record weight lossI know its mostly dehydration but weight loss is some funny shit. Back on the OMAD + exercise routine.
>>76625191maybe because he aged
Haven't seen that one before glad to know I'm still losing weight
>>76622797No
Fatty ContestObiWanJabroni247.6 lbs
What are some weightloss side effects that nobody told you about>glasses will not fit properly due to the fat on my cheekbones that used to keep them perfectly straight at eye level has melted away so now I have to push them back up like that silly anime glasses trope>cock gains are FUCKING HUGE HOLY SHIT I gained like damn near 2 inches and I still have a bit of fat to melt in that area so I think I will get to the 2 inch mark.
>>76623898It doesn't matter who's right, neither of them is by the way. Take your height and weight and go to an online calculator and figure it out based on walking speed and time, not distance
>>76624799All of that combined does not equal nearly your calorie budget. You are way overestimating and miscounting. If it's a good brand of protein powder without a ton of filler, it should be like 100 or 120 calories a scoop. 300 grams of chicken is approximately 10 ounces, Which is around 340 calories. Two fruits are 200 calories max. Eggs are 70 calories each, so that's 350 for the eggs. That's about 900 calories total Assuming the chicken is chicken breast, which it should be if you're trying to lose weight. at 1500 calories that gives you at least 600 to play with.
>>76625224You just basically described this meme diet from like 2009.
>>76625236Welcome to the internet. I use grok to help me plan weight loss and recalculate tdee etc and it has been great. Ive lost 30lbs following its numbers and its convenient. It makes reasonably accurate estimates of my foods caloric content and is generally a great tool. People are salty af.
>>76625318You can get glasses adjusted. Or just carefully bend them a bit into shape yourself
>>76622797>alliabsolutely not, unless you want to shit yourself accidentally with pure oil coming out of your ass.
>>76622962>>76623032Depends on how long you fast. Anything under 72 hours you don't have to do shit. A week out? Probably better to start with a small meal like you mentioned.>What kind of time am I supposed to leave between that and actually eating something substantial like chicken and potatoes anyway?Like 3-4 hours. The small meal is to get your gut moving mostly without jarring it, should be fine after a few hours to eat a real meal.
Scale went down
One hour left until 3 day fast breaking. I wish I could just eat a pizza.
Anyone got a basic workout routine for the gym? Just signed up for a year, so got to use it now. Access to swimming is available too. Also, what's the problem in having a day where I eat very low calories but high protein? Like if I had 3 eggs, some cheese, some nuts and come in under 1000 calories? Not everyday mind.
I CANT POOP
Down to 288 pounds from 345 in February
>>76625423I should have started then and I would have been able to go on the velocicoaster last week.
>>76625318>>cock gains are FUCKING HUGE HOLY SHITjust how many pounds did you lose exactly? were you fat as shit or what?
>>76625423Unbelievably based
>>76625430Trust me Anon, we all could have started sooner. I'm just happy I started at all
>>76625441Not that dude, but genetics put a lot of fat around my dick when I was technically obese, but not completely fat as shit. Dropping 25lbs and it definitely added inches to my dick.
I think i could sex a woman in work but i'm a 32 year old KHV who's just lost 110lbs and has loose skin so my mind makes me sperg out. I guess being alone isn't so bad.
Should I supplement L-tyrosine? Maybe it'll help my ADHD and potential thyroid issues.There's a lot of tyrosine in food but I read that it's used for protein synthesis when it comes with other amino acids.
>>76625546Ok
>>76625564I just want to stop being a sperg
If you lost weight and have loose skin, can you please tell me how you're dealing with it? do people notice it? do you fear taking your shirt off? I'm really scared of having my flabby gut hanging out and floppy manboobs or something
>>76625573Ok
>>76625576Yeah you're ngmi
FUCK i keep oscillating between 137-139 lbs
>>76625580Ok
>>76625575You will look like shit with loose skin unless you get surgeryThat's just how it is, if thats a barrier to you for losing all your fat then you're ngmi
>>76625575As >>76625607 said, if you have loose skin you will look like shit. I have lost around ~60kg and I look like a melted candle. I have accepted that I will never look like a normal human without an expensive surgery so I just accepted it and I keep "intentionally" yoyoing my weight (I could call it bulking and cutting but I'm more honest than that) by fasting to moderately lean and then enjoying food and lifting heavy and fasting the fat away when I my weight goes over 100kg.
>>76625318Hard chairs and floors are less comfortable when I sit. It's so fucking dumb. I'm glad my desk chair is still comfy.
>>76625318No libido
Nobody warned me about the runny nose I'd get after breaking a fast
>>76625581if you've plateau'd completely the only thing you can do now is to either take a diet break (eat at maintenance for a few weeks) or shake it up and try something differentGL
>drinking diet coke like there's no tomorrow>just finished my second monster energy zeroat this point I might as well pick up smoking, I need to keep myself distracted
Anyone here tried meditation?
Your body and mind must be subservient to your spirit. If they are not, your body will inevitably take control. It will then grip your mind like a vice, leading it toward easy pleasures be they gluttony or lust. The longer you are held in this state, the more the light of consciousness will to recede from your being. Then you will begin to degenerate. Your body will start to feel pain, and that pain will strain your mind for some way out. You will drown yourself in even more pleasure, numbing away the pain until you reach the point when it cannot be ignored. That is the critical point. That is when the light of consciousness will come bursting forth, and all the darkness within your mind will be filled with light and you will realize that you are not your body or your mind, but you are your spirit. Then you will know what you must do to hone your body and your mind into the highest ideal that you have envisioned. Then you will know what it means to never give up.
>6'6 260r8 my general routine /fit/>wake up 7>full shower>200mg caffeine instant coffee>brew green tea (10 packets in a 20oz cup) to drink thoroughout the day>leave for gym around 8:30~>go to class at 10>study until 20>get home take a light shower>drink 100g of protein in water protein shake for 500 cals>eat stir fry or burgers or mac for other 700 - 1000 calories>sleep at 11>repeatMy goal weight is about 180-160
>>76625897>>eat stir fry or burgers or mac for other 700 - 1000 calorieswhy would you do that? jesusjust eat a chicken breast and some broccoli and you'll be in your goal weight much faster
>>76625929because I like mac and stir fryalso the fucks wrong with stir fry it's just veggies and meat and a little bit of sauce
losing weight is fucking easy just stick to your calorie deficit and then every 2 weeks give yourself 1 day to pig out on as much food you want. I went from 105kg to 80kg doing this
>>76625976this but don't pig outI'd say you're better off just sticking to the diet unless you have a social occasionI don't socialize much even though I've love to so this works great for me
>>76625983Sure that’s the best option but I mean for the people who struggle to stay dedicated to their diet it might be easier for them this way
>>76625991you'd be better off with a less strict diet that you can enjoy instead of something stricter that you cheat on
>>76625997I guess. Worked for me though
>>76625845let me guess, fasting?
>>76626034actually no, just a very low calorie diet
>was supposed to fast today>dad brought me some donuts and I couldn't resist>pigged out and ate 2 in a rowguess I'll just get some pizza for lunch since I already fucked up today
>>76625897>study for 10 hoursLmao
>>76626077>guess I'll just get some pizza for lunch since I already fucked up todaygood thinking fatass
Finally found out what works for me and keeps me full for lunch or dinnerOne can of tuna in water, one large tomato, a small onion, a little bit of oregano and a small drizzle of vinegar and olive oilthen I eat a nectarine as a final treatmakes for a pretty nice meal
>>76626109But that sounds awful
>>76625897>6'6>160>while liftingthat's like 2% bf mode
>>76626115I like it, is that not what's important, for each of us to find a way to reach our goals while still enjoying life?
>>76626077>guess I'll just get some pizza for lunch since I already fucked up todayyou didn't yet but you will if you eat that pizzaand tell your lardass dad to respect your fat loss plans
>full for lunch or dinnerNot really related to your post so no (You) for you, but holy shit lately I've been filling full so much faster when eating, I can't quite finish my meals and then I just get hungry again a few hours later, it's insanely annoying.
>>766260772 donuts and nothing else all day is fine for a fast>>76625897>(10 packets in a 20oz cup)why>>76625546wear your shirt when you do it.
>>76626129If you liked this kind of food you would have never been fat, just lying to yourself
>>766260838 hours usuallyclasses end at 2pm for me usuallyand I usually do a to do list instead of a straight 8 hours so that If I don't procrastinate at all I can get out an hour or two early
>>76626144gotta get 600mg caffeine somehowit's that or extreme coffee, or maybe caffiene pills
broke fast with 100g banana, 100g skyr, 2 eggs, a bowl of oats, and 500ml of milk. seems fine, not sure why so many people talk about reintroducing foods slowly. you wouldn't do that if you were fasting in nature. I bet I could have just had a normal high protein meal
>>76621998In 29 days I dropped 18 pounds by having a really good morning smoothie with vegetables and fruits, protein powder, etc., etc., and like a burger or something for lunch so far I’ve been doing pretty good. It’s easy to stay off drinking soda too once you get used to it after like a week
>>76626109tuna is always bad for you, mercury never leaves the body
>>76625897If this is serious then a here's few things that I've learned myself and jumps out at me.1. Caffeine should be saved until a little later after waking up if you can, or after eating something. I've weened myself off caffeine and feel much better for it, but even when I do have it now, I have it extremely weak. It's much better in the long term for focus and anxiety, even if you think you don't get anxiety from it you'll be amazed when you remove almost all of it.2. Seems like too long to go without eating honestly and you're bound to have some dips in energy, so it's good to eat small snacks or lunches with carbohydrates.3. Drinking protein in a shake is nowhere near the same as eating it in real food, you really should aim to get protein from real food as much as possible. I don't remember the reasons for this but I've done both myself and there is a tremendous difference. Protein in the morning would also blunt any hunger.
>>76626223It does but it takes forever to leave the body, also a non-issue if you eat it 3 times or less per week
>>76626234To be clear, that's skipjack or canned light tuna, not the other kind which really should be limited to once per week
>>76626234still it's better to avoid it, sardines are better in every way
>>76626201I broke a 100 hour fast with a full birthday cake once only ate 70% of it before liquid shitting the whole thing out
>>76626242I think it's fine since it's within limits, but other options are even lower which can be good if you live on fish or want to be extra safe over the long term. I ran into that problem when I realised that I was consuming fish five or six times per week. I like switching it around with mackerel, it's around just under 1/3 of the mercury content of tuna iirc, but yeah sardines are great too
>>76626260how long between eating and that happening?
>>76626229I could put more meat in my stir fry instead of having a shakealso the high caffeine is because of the the fit sticky posthttps://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
new low fat bread>>76626325>>76626325>>76626325
>>76626215Good stuff
>>76625423Very nice. Im down to 247 from 277 in february. Feels good man.
>>76625191Why are you such a faggot?
>>76625180just make sure you have access to a doctor if something goes wrong. if you have to go bathtub chink juice then you probably dont but you should at least do what you can by saving money and making a list of potential outs.