Previous thread: >>76626325>Who is /fat/ for?For Two Ton Truckers, working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
>>76630449First for keto and everyone who follows low carb is a huge faggot
indicate me laxative food
It's time to let go of your burdens, confess your sins and be forgiven.
how stupid would it be to focus on weight loss until i get from 260 to like 220 or 200 so I dont make too much of a radical lifestyle change by also adding weight lifting + cardio?
>>76630487That would be retarded. You're pre bulked. Perfect opportunity to smash your newbie gains
>>76630493is that how it works? i was under the assumption that muscle gain came from newly ingested calories/protein, and current fat was just used to create energy?
>caffeine load and fast before runs>HR into mid 190s>Can still maintain it for 30 minutesI can't tell if this is good or bad, but I am losing weight.
After 1 werk of trying to change myself for the better >Mom destroys all of the things I bought to try and get /fit/>Rice cooker, weight scale, vitamins, fruits and veggies, etc>Calls me a faggot who will never amount to anything It seems that I was always destined to be a basement dweller. Goodbye /fit/, it was nice pretending otherwise
>>76630511Move out and make a life of your own.
>>76630511To be fair you probably are a bit fruity. We still love you though.
>>76630471I'm going to eat, AGAIN.
>>76630511When you can get out of the house you may want to. Crazy parents only are a bane while your young and dependent.
>>76630496Yep it's exactly how it works especially for beginners. Energy is energy as long as protein is high enough. Never made sense to me to lose a bunch of weight only to turn around and gain it again in an attempt to build muscle. Recomposition is a real thing and at that weight if you take lifting seriously you could end up at 180lbs or whatever in good shape or 180lbs looking like a bag of smashed assholes
>>76630511Nothing more masculine than ploughing another man’s son. Shame she can’t understand that. Don’t give up anon
>>76630534ill give it a shot then, what should i do about feeling self conscious? i use my old uni gym since alumni can still go, but i feel bad being the late 20s fat guy surrounded by a bunch of hot college kids
Somehow despite my tracking I’ve been putting on weight again - I’m already down from 120kgs to 88 but I’m not losing anymore and it’s fucking killing me mentally, I’ve been plateauing for 3 weeks now.Any ideas? Do I just need to switch up my diet? Am I not tracking strict enough? (I try not to do things like oils for cooking but any sauces I generally will do)
>>76630541Nobody cares. One day you and everyone who has ever interacted with you will be dead. Are you really not going to do something you know will benefit you because someone who's going to be dead soon enough will judge you? Good luck mate WAGMI
is no longer getting super sore from my arm workouts a sign that i need to make my routine more challenging or do i just need to workout more times a week.
>>76630558Are you progressing in weight lifted? If yes no need to change. Repeated bout effect means less soreness is natural
>>76630566not yet no, only some changes in my arms physically, but the soreness i used to get just isnt happening anymore
My bench press was a little harder today, I had to do one less repHope I don't have to start decreasing the weight I know the fat loss will be worth it in the end, but this scares me
Haven't posted in a couple weeks. Think things have been going pretty well. I feel so much more fit.
>>76630607Here is my weight. Only my parents have said much but damn its amazing what just just about 20 pounds does to the waistline.
>>76630575Soreness doesn't matter. The only way to get bigger biceps is by curling more weight. If you curls 15lbs for 8 reps right now you will have bigger biceps when you can curl 50lbs for 8 reps. It's the ONLY thing that matters
>>76630471I smelt a blueberry muffin I cut in half for my wife and it smelt so good I nearly licked the jam off of the knife.
wth i should have been eating canned fruit this whole time. the single serving ones are so filling for so low calories
LunchTortellini:630 caloriesTomato Sauce with cream:240 calories1/2lb Sausage:600 caloriesDinner Tortellini:1100 caloriesTomato Sauce with cream:240 calories1/2lb Sausage:600 caloriesTotal:3,410 calories, maintenance calories 3350, Gain of 60 calories.Man I didn't want to post this, real embarrassing I couldn't go one day without fucking up but I promised I would be honest. I was doing fine until evening but then something happened that upset me and bam I turned to food. Learned a few lessons, I need to find an alternate outlet for my emotions other than food. Second I need to pay closer attention to what I eat and not just the calories. The sausage has so many more calories I don't get filled up enough eating so little. Need to swap out for chicken or ground beef. Also dropping the cream sauce for a straight tomato sauce and I can probably live with half the amount of sauce as well. The pasta is empty calories I should swap to potatoes or just veggies. I've got some leftover frozen meals I prepped weeks ago, going to try to eat those for the next few days. Won't have a good calorie count because it's just slop in a bag but they are all pretty healthy. I'll try to guestimate. Hope you guys were more successful today. Maybe tomorrow I will be too.
>>76630463mango. >>76630511choose to eat 800cal a day>>76630471i ate like 8 crackers. whats that, 200 calories?
>>76630784>but then something happened that upset me and bam I turned to food.what happened?
>>76630813Just some stupid bad luck in a game, it's nothing important certainly not worth ruining my diet over. I'm just an emotional rollercoaster and I swing from being up to down all day and when I'm down it's like I lose all self control.
Breakfast:A Granny Smith Green Apple: 123 calories, apple weighed 9 ouncesLunch:A sandwich that is made with Honey ham (70 calories for 2 slices or 56 grams) from Aldi, Slice turkey (70 calories for 2 slices), cheese from chipotle cheddar cheese (90 calories for a single slice), organic spring mix (3 calories) 3 tomato slices (15 calories in total), 1 onion slice (6 calories) and the bread was 70 calories for 2 slicesCombine Caloric intake was 324Dinner:Bistek Ala Mejicana USDA Choice beef bottom round steak, (pulpa blanca) 368 calories for 6.55 ouncesand once cup of jasmine rice for 205 calories for 573 caloriesso in total I ate about 1,065 calories todayUnfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstances involving a violent crime where I live, I was not able to go on my walks. I'm not that worried since my maintenance calories are 3,632. But still a bit miffed that I couldn't go today.
>>76630471I gave up on healthy lifestyle changes and just took the Mounjaro.
>>76630832What sort of bread do you have that 2 slices are 70 calories? My bread is like 200 calories for 2 slices.
>>76630849Aunt Millie's Live Carb Smart 5 Seed Bread, 14 oz.A slice of bread is like 35 calories each. So 2 of them is 70.
>ate 400 calories of pork rinds>turns out the protein in them is collagen (literal protein score of 0)well at least they're healthier than potato chips but it's no different than chugging olive oil
>>76630449Nonce Symbol
>>76630860Collagen is really good for you at least. Next time grind some up and use them as breading for some chicken breasts.
>>76630855Lucky. I got a really low fat high protein cheese and was craving a grilled cheese the other day but I couldn't justify the 200 calories in the bread.
>>76630832Unless you are super short, you should probably eat more. Eat close to your bmr
>>76630884>Eat close to your bmrNo
>get high>munchiesw/e
>>76630895Weed is for pedophiles
>>76630865What do you mean
>>76630900what are you tryna say you wanna be my girl
how do you guys wake up early as fuck to go to the gym? if I wanted to go in the morning id have to wake up at like 6am and thats early as fuck
>>76630934just work out at home
My gym workout is sitting on the toilet and standing back up.
>>76630950It’s called popping a squat for a reason
>>76630934Just go to youtube and do aerobics for 30 minutes. That's what I do to also supplement my walking.
>>76630937>>76630957but i thought had to do weight lifting so i dont end up skinny-fat after i lose my weight
>>76630958u can do weight lifting at home ?
>>76630958Buy a set of dumbells and a bar. It will pay for itself in less than a year.
>>76630913>>76630919Paedos
>>76630471The exact day I see that I have a flat belly, small or no lovehandles and the slightest hint of absI am going to drive to five guys and order the biggest greasiest burger chips combo with diet cokeI have been fantasising about it for months, its probably a quarter of what I'm looking forward to once I'm fit.I'm going to do it and hope the diet disicpline I've built up over all this time will let me easily begin the next day on a balanced healthy budget again
>>76630934set an alarm..
>>76631004>tfw won’t be able to do this because I’m pre diabetic
>>76631010My dads heavily diabetic and apparently so was his, I haven't been diagnosed even though I've only just started working on my diet and before this year it was constant days since 2012 of 5 stack pb&j sandwiches and aldi mudcakes with zero actual nutrition, I don't know what the fuck is going on with my shitWould be a cruel joke if my diabetes kicks in only after I started to get healthy
>>76630975Fart?
>>76631004You won't have a flat stomach and no love handles unless you put on 10-20lbs of muscle to spread the fat out and give you a shape to your body. Plenty of skellies out there with tummy fat it's actually the vast majority of skinny people
I only eat green bananas
If I feel like I'm gonna binge I just pop a 6 mg zyn and since I don't smoke it makes me feel like I'm gonna vomit for the rest of the day
how accurate are garmin watches for counting calories? I'm all for a high burn rate but this seems excessive.
i have decided i would rather be skinny fat and actually get my weight off than force myself to go to the gym when i know itll make me rebound right now back into overeatingi will simply go to the gym later when i know i wont betray myself due to too many lifestyle changes at once
Doing 48h fast second time this week. Hoping to reach 73kg desu.
Does anyone else hate weighing themselves after eating? Fuck me, I know I lost pounds after the workout, but seeing the scale go up by like 1.2 pounds because I got done eating dinner is disheartening
>>76631146ur only suppose to weight urself first thng in the mornings after using the restroom
>>76630900TRVKE
>>76631112thats a pound of fat. are you losing a pound a day? if so, its accurate.if after 10 days you only lost 8 pounds, you know the counts have an 80% handicap.
>>76631122>i will simply go to the gym laterI wonder how many people say this and actually do it.
>>76631154I know, I know. But I still check. It’s a bad habit that I need to stop.
>>76631048It's OK I was never actually proper obese, just 90kg 5'10 more fat than skinny skinnyfat. I will have a flat stomach with small love handles and then I will enjoy borgar
>under 300 lbsNever again.
Peanut butter is proof there is a god (and he hates us).
>>76631189Makes the sad thinking about all the shit I used to eat as a kid/teen having no idea how bad it was. Used to easily spoon entire jars of peanut butter like it was nothing as a snack.
>>76631192It’s not particularly bad for you other than being a fuckload of calories and also the best tasting thing on the planet (my cravings may be getting the best of me with that last part).
>>76631156I've actually lost more than a pound a day since my weigh in on Saturday but that's only because I'm on a fast. I don't plan on walking 10 miles every day though so we'll see were the weight ends up next Saturday.
>>76631186Good job.
so hungry...
Going to bed early and waking up early is the true way to live life.
>>76630543what is your TDEE? How many calories are you eating a day? What is your height? One of my plateus lasted for about three weeks and I didn't fuck up anything nor change anything to get out of the plateau, sometimes the body is just retarded and seems to ignore thermodynamics
>>76630613I've noticed a huge increase in compliments about my weightloss when I started to wear clothes that fit me instead of my now too large old stuff, baggy clothes hide your gains, try to buy some pants ana shirts that fit you now. They'll soon be too big for you but it will be a nice confidence boost from all the comments you'll get
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 102.9 kgOverall progress:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyMotivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXD3vPpwqSsI definitely need to go back to 1800 kcal.
plateau brokendown into the 70sso close...
>>76631269This literally just happened to me today, finally worked up the courage to wear an M size t-shirt instead of my usual XL and my coworkers noticed I lost weight for the first time
>>76630471ik this sounds faggerty but i havent posted a single photo of me in 4 years (only updated pf pic because it shows a jawline) but when I graduate college ill show a full body pic to show people im no longer a fat fuck from high school.
>>76631112they all overestimate by a wide margin
>>76631561who benefits?
Name: EternalStudentWeight: 82.8 kg @ 175 cmGoal: 69 kg The path is simple: eat less & move more.Seems that a mild stomach flu is unfortunately helping out on the eat less part, and I am going to focus more on my step count for the move more part.I want to look better and be healthy. Without going complete American Psyhco, I do believe in taking care of my self, and I haven't done that. I am going to change that.WAGMI
day two of 1000kcal/dayi'm not even that hungry i'm mostly just bored, normally i'd be cooking more often
you are not human if you don't eat bread
>>76630934I have everything I need at home.
>>76631618I've never seriously researched my genealogy beyond my grandparents, but I have long suspected that I might be Jewish, so this works for me.
>Apartment too small to get an indoor bike to exercise>There's a sudden heatwave where I live that puts the temp at around 80's>Thinking of getting a YMCA membership just to use their indoor bikes and other cardio equipmentShould I just cave and be part of Big Gym?
>>76631598the jews>>76631619why not buy a real bike?
>>76631681I specifically bought it for bad weather when I don't want to be outside.
>be me a 40 days ago>check out the body scan thing at my gym>124.4 kg weight, 51l water, 40.3kg muscle, 54.4kg fat>get another scan now to check progress>weight 122.1kg >gained .3kg of fat>lost 1.5kg of water and 2.5 kg of musclecan these things be trusted? that sounds dire.
>>76631738No, just go to a doctor or physician
>>76631744you mean I should go to the doctor to get that checked, or go to the doctor if I want a body scan?
>>76631746go to the doctor to get that checked
>>76630449I agree
>>76631738no, they are useless>>76631748moron
>>76631643You have a hallway right? Walk back and forth.
Damn if you think about losing weight kinda hard. >have deficit of 500kkal>so you lose 0.5kg in week>you wont know if you really had deficit of 500kkal until next week>maybe you eat salty food and you now bloated and have +1kg>butt count your calories nah
>>76631788That's why counting calories is more important than weighing yourself. Stepping on a scale once a week might have unpredictable swings up and down. Your progress will be visible on a scale of months. Even then you might stall for an entire 30 days and will only see a drop next month.
>>76631796So i have no choice but to count... i will try...
>>76631800you count your calories and I'm counting on you, anon.
>>76631618I love bread but I had to heavily reduce my intakebummer
I'm counting on (you) counting your calories.
Still dropping weight fairly quickly even a couple of days after breaking a fast and eating in a 1000-1500 deficit. I've slowly reintroduced carbs, so it can't be glycogen or water weight I'm losing considering that I lost that when fasted. Does fasting temporarily increase TDEE after finishing it or something? I'm down just under 11lbs in the last 5 days.
favorite low calorie side for your protein? homemade french fries for me
>>76631812I got these sandwich thins, I'm hoping they scratch the bread itch but at half the calories.
>low fat, low carb, high protein torture diet>7kg down in a month, life's good>got weird pain in stomach>doctor thinks it's a gallbladder stoneHow in the name of fuck man, I'm too young for this, and I've been barely been eating now.At least I have an excuse to fast until the next examination.
Day 1 of new diet on monday left me feeling the type of exhausted ive never felt before, completely comatose on night one. Day 2 was better, was feeling a calm energy last night, except had to get up to pee more than i was used to. Today is going good too. Feeling like things are starting to click.
To lose weight, increase your budget for food, and learn to cook.Fattening slop is cheap. If you can only eat little daily, at least make it interesting.
Reminder that there are 0 health risks to drinking diet soda
>>76631953water is cheaper
>>76631956And fasting is cheaper than a slight caloric deficit, yet here we are
>>76631953recently moved to italy, diet soda sucks fucking ASS here, it's a completely different formulaand now i need something sweet with zero calories more than ever, to keep me away from the gazillion different kinds of pastries in every corner
>>76631957Fasting is a cheat code.I fast every other day and doubled my weight loss rate.
>>76631953wrong
>>76631967Ok, fine, you might be overhydrated or overcaffeinated if you drink 4 liters a day
>>76631973the sweetener(s) are listed as possible carcinogens as one thingsecond thing soda is acidic so it ruins teeththree it's more expensive than water so it could be taking away funds from actually healthy and nutritious foods
>>76630713what annoys me is that they pretty much always only say the calories when the sugary water (brine? syrup?) they're suspended in is drained off. But who the hell pours that tasty sweet stuff down the drain? I'd rather drink it, but that's where all the calories are. And they give no info as to how many. Which is why I like the stuff that's artificially sweetened, it tends to be expensive and you can't get it everywhere but they give the full (and thanks to the artificial sweetening, quite low) calories for the whole glass so I can have a sizable snack without any hidden nonsense.
>>76630865it's just a fuckin spiral, it's not even triangular or heart shaped
>>76631980The amount of sweeteners is extremely small relative to the amount that could be carcinogenic. Think of how tuna or salmon technically has mercury, but the amount is so small you don't worry about it. It is acidic, but if you don't overdo it and drink it excessively you're completely fine, just like every other food A 2 liter bottle of diet soda is like $2.30 it's not that serious
>>76631958Monster Energy tastes good (of course don't drink too much, as with any energy drink)
Fatty ContestClandestineCalamity87.5kg
Hunger hit like a truck today.Send help.
Who else on their way to escaping skinnyfat hell
>>76632012looking for something caffeine free, when i lived in the uk, pepsi max no caffeine was an op cheat code, made losing weight a breeze, i went through 2 24-can packs every month.i drank them through a straw, to minimise the impact on my teeth
>>76632003but it does have a risk so it's not "0 health risks"why drink acidic dirinks when I can drink water?still mor expensive than water
>>76631953Wrong.You could choke.It's better to get all your fluids via IVs.
>>76632023>There's 0 health risks to drinking water >Oh, what if I drink too much? What if I choke? What if I have rabies? What if it's infected? What if I have a gun to my head that triggers if I drink water?
>>76630471I was training for a half marathon the last 6 weeks and I ate at least 2k calories over maintenance everyday. I’ve gained 6kg.Did get a pb of 1:42:43 tho
>>76632054reducto ad absurdium and if I were to engage then the things you listed are not health risks of wateryou can have too much of anything but when it comes to drinks water is the bestest and I see no reason to drink anything else besides milk and tea
>>76632054>What if I have a gun to my head that triggers if I drink water?The jews actually do this to sandpeople, except with drones.
>>76632020im currently 74kg skinnyfat 5'10, apparently the loseit app I'm on is telling me ill be 70kg by mid-late octoberim assuming this belly wont go away by the time I actually get to 70kg even though ive been strength training progressions since june im still proper skinnyfat with love handles and no flat belly by the time im in 70kg idk what to do,do I really have to keep cutting uinto the 60s, or do I now have to commit to a couple months of maintenance or bulking to build muscle or some shitno idea how close i am to escaping skinnyfat hell but at least im closer now than I was a year ago, but i also really hope i havent massively fucked up my macros or whatever and my body composition is raped to be skinnyfat when im 70
>>76632124>im still properif im still**
>>76631893Rapid weight loss can cause gallstones, ask your doctor for ursodiol.
>>76631831Me too, Just potato and salt on The Air fryer
>>76631842>1 thin>105 caloriesWholegrain toast bread is 67 calories per slice.
>>76632124You fucked up the lifting and are going to "bulk" lel
so if i want to lose weight quick i should set a max amount of calories a day but also try to eat as much protein as possible, right?or does protein not really matter that much
>>76632194Not in Australia, 118 calories.
>>76632235Grim, my condolences.
>>76632238Multigrain looks to be the best actual bread option at 73 calories per slice. I had one of the thins and it was pretty decent. Definitely scratched the bread itch.
what's the most weight you lifted?is 110 pounds even heavy?
>>76632255I have recently discovered slim corn/rice cakes. Where I'm at they're 5 grams and 16 calories a piece. Pretty tasty too. Not quite bread, but goes well with no-sugar pure fruit jam.
>>76632277I was mainly after something to make a grilled cheese with, but those would be pretty good to get as a snack.
>>76632255For me it's wasa rhye crispbread
>>76632200look up lyle mcdonald's psmf bookabout as quick of a weight loss as you can do without losing muscle
>>76632267depends on the exercise
>>76632291110 barbell
>>76632200>so if i want to lose weight quick i should set a max amount of calories a day but also try to eat as much protein as possible, right?Basically. One thing to note- you need to lift weight in addition to eating a lot of protein if you want to preserve muscle. Eating protein alone and not lifting doesn't do anything to preserve muscle, so make sure you are lifting.
>>76632267I don't have anymore weights than 2 dumbbells 22lbs each, so 44 pounds I guess.
>>76632330and how /fit/ are you?
>>76631953If you drink the acidic ones a lot you could affect your teeth enamel in a bad way.Also, I would drink 3 cans a day but I stopped because the artificial sweetner caused me canker sores. I suppose 1 can a day could be okay.
>>76632267I think I lifted something that was 200kg once. not at the gym tho
>>76632383>I thinkbro is
Bout to pass my goal
I recently discovered that if you throw salt, dried garlic and dill into greek yoghurt it makes the most amazing garlic sauce. I feel like I'm eating fast food every days since.
>>76632461congrats, you just discovered tzatziki
>>76630449I gave up
>>76632468Oh damn I did, didn't I? Those greeks are onto something. I will investigate their cooking further.
the xenoim know, shut it down
starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8current weight: 105.6 kg 17/9goal weight: 70 kgheight: 179 cmmethod: rolling 72s with salt water and coffeeoff to a 4 day feast, pray for me
>>76632461I like to use fresh garlic on mine. Also, if you can find quark yogurt try that, its thicker and has more protein, really like it.
>>76632529>rolling 72s with salt water and coffeewhat does this mean
>>76632570nta, but you fast and drink nothing but salt water and coffee, then eat normally (?) for one day, then start another 72h fast right away (that's the rolling part)
>>76632570>>76632579actually, he said 4 day feast, implying he fasts 3 days a week, then eats a lot the other 4 daysi wouldn't call that rolling, but whatever
>>76632579>>76632585either way, that's a fucked up way to live your life.
>>76631112The estimate of the daily activities are pretty accurate for me. For anything more strenuous, I have the powermeter on the bike for accurate Watts/kJ/kcal.
>>76632589nta but I really like losing weight the same way as that dude, 3 days of fasting starting from monday, eating eating mindfully thursday to sunday and repeating. I have been losing ~1.5kg a week this way really easily. Doesnt take too long to reach my goal weight this way and I get to eat to satiety on the days I eat.
>>76632589it's straight up two eating disorders cancelling each other out, slightly in favor of weight loss.
>>76632603>1.5kg a weekchrist
>>76632603bye bye muscle unless megafat
>>76632685With 3 day fasts you still shouldn't be losing muscle as long as you eat plenty of protein and work out during the 4 refeed days.
>>76632692maybe if the four days are perfect but it's still 3 days of the muscles being eaten
>>76632663Yeah, I like to loose weight asap. I have used many different methods of loosing weight like calorie restriction, keto, whatever with good results, this is just the easiest and fastest way to loose weight imo. Far easier to not just eat anything for couple of days (for me at least). I like to eat a slight surplus while lifting often when Im not loosing weight, takes me around a year to gain enough weight to start dieting again.>>76632685Meh, my lifts havent dropped and Im the most muscular I have ever been, works for me.
>>76632603This is the way. I've been lifting for 7 years and put on muscle but was basically stuck at the same bf. 24 hour fasts then breaking with a bigger meal usually around 800 calories. 4-5 mile walks then 3-4 mile runs mixed in. When you're already active I feel like your primed for weight loss and your body knows how to use the fat. I never get tired or excessively hungry and almost instantly see results. A million times better than normal calorie restriction which is gradual barely visible and then ruined once I start binging again. Barely any strength change either. Last time I even got stronger. I shoot for at least 5lbs (2.27kg) a week and I usually only need 15-20lbs so it's a quick process. Im doing it now and a week in and i already look good in shirts when a week ago I had a little beer belly
>>76632715>ruined once I start binging again.Yeah, I dont really binge but when restricting calories enough to see meaningful change on the scale I get so fucking fed up with it that I just say fuck it and go buy the worst kinds of foods to eat.
Opinions on just snacking on toasts (with no fat and with some spices) until afternoon to prevent binging? I think I can manage on 5 half-wholegrain toasts at work, so that's about 250 calories + morning white coffee.
>>76632754I mean, just eat breakfast?
>>76632754Correction: it's wholegrains, but with mixed grains and it ends up being about 300 calories.
>>76632754eat a muffin or something. high carb high fat. i'm talking a good sized 600 calorie one
>>76632781Even if I eat breakfast, I end up pretty hungry after work and I may binge, do I want to try the multiple meals a day thing.
>>76632754>snacking on carbs, especially simple carbs (that whole/mixed bread still has)oh no no no no no no no
>>76632790My job is semi-physical, so carbs are needed.
>>76632789Most humans eat multiple meals a day, yes. I do light breakfast, lunch, dinner, it works out.
>>76632806Carbs make you hungrier. Pure simple carbs much more so.
>>76632806bacon and eggs will have less calories, give you more energy, and make you satiated for longer
>>76632858LMFAO
I want to eat
>>76632862?
>>76632806>muh physical energyYou want to use your stored fat for energy, dumbass, that's the whole point of fat loss.
>>76632879Nobody with a brain thinks dietary fat gives you more energy than carbohydrates, you will die of obesity with high cholesterol at age 50 just like every other day retarded right wing white guy who's obsessed with eggs and unnaturally fatty meat that inhales industrial grain slop because goymericans can't eat lean protein
>>76632924Holly pol schizo
>>76632924>unnaturally fattyok ahmed, i know you are not allowed to eat pig, but the rest of us are not as cucked as you
>>76632938>t city mutt who has never killed an eaten a wild animal that isn't injected full of hormones and fed pic relLet me guess, saturated fat is le good because el testosterone or something
>>76632924based and true
>>76632946i live in europe nigger, i pay any mind to the types of fatkeep trying tough, let me hear what pigeonhole your schizo brain comes up with next
>>76632965i don't* pay any mind
>>76632965And how's that working out for ya
>>76632995good, now you post body.
Enjoying the gastroenteritis meta2kg down since Sunday
>>76633004
>>76633041four fucking cameras on that phone and best you can do is 710x559 kek, nevermind asking for a timestamp i'll probably get some ketoschizo tier pixelated shit
>>76632913I get noticeably sluggish working only on fat and I repeat, I tend to binge after that.
>>76633057Just take the L with some class/grace and move on
>>76633085So no timestamp?
>>76633041>>76633085>Screenshot_20250815-09344(...).jpg>20250815>0815
I only have 118 calories left in my day and it’s noon, any recipe ideas for dinner? I was thinking a canned vegetable with a tiny amount of butter (and seasoning of course) or maybe a couple fiber one granola bars
Can 10 pounds of fat be the difference between pants fitting tightly and loosely?
>>76633183depends on how fat you are and where you store fatand depends on the size of the pants and in which place they are tight/loose
>>76633208currently 19% bfmostly i would say they're tight in the hip area
>>7663322010lbs of fat could be like ~1-3%bf depending on how heavy you are and if most of the fat is around the hips causing the buttong to be tight then losing 10lbs would make them fit good but can't tell if they would get loose(I doubt they would)
someone post the /fat/ discord?
Does anyone do burpees
>>76633275Which inbred retard named them burpees?
>>76633275no and I don't see why I would or should
>>76633275I burp and pee
>>76633173Can of tuna or scoop of protein powder with water
My tdee is 2200So basically i need to eat 1700 or 1500 kkal?
>>76633319it basically depends on what weight loss strategy you want to adaptbut a 300-500 kcal deficit is most common
Fatty Contestnintendoswitch3212lbs
>>766333191200
>>76633333holy shit
odds have a beerevens don't
>>76633430is zero really an even number?I don't personally believe sogoing to the store anyway
>>7663343976633430 is an even number.
This was an interesting article.https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-09-weight.htmlIt matches with my first hand experience in that if I was hungry, if I went for a walk I would find that my hunger would subside. All the more reason for everybody to try and be active every day.
>>76633469humans are not miceI'd attribute it more to your mind being focused on exercise instead of how "hungry" it is
>>76633473I don't know. Walking doesn't really require much mental focus. And it didn't feel like a scenario like I got distracted and forgot about the hunger. The hunger went away. I figured it was linked to the body sensing lower blood sugar from the activity and then starting to go though a glucagon hormone cycle to raise blood sugar which wound up reducing the hunger. But maybe it is the effect that is mentioned in the article.
>>76630449Fatty ContestName: MikuLoverWeight: 194.8
Fatty ContestMoss358.4lb
>>76633275i do them once a week. anywhere from 30 to 50
had 4 eggs and some sausage for breakfast this morningnever skip egg day
>>76632698Thats literally not how fasting works, your body spikes absurdly high in ketones and HGH during fasts to prevent muscle loss. Any "muscle loss" during fasting is minimal and immediately regained upon refeeding, provided you eat enough protein and aren't fasting for absurdly long periods of time (we're taking 2+ weeks)https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34668663/
>>76633571the study you linked literally says that protein loss occurs but slows downwhich means you lose muscle masswhich is obviously what happens because the brain cannot fully switch over to using ketones and still needs some protein no matter what
>just woke up >realised I had a washboard belly with a set of abs>spent the first couple minutes of the day running around my house showing everyone that I had abs>then actually wake up again for real>it was just a fucking dream>can feel my skinnyfat belly still there the second I open my eyesI understand that if you fantasise about something alot youll likely dream about it but still, cruel fucking joke why would my brain do that to me
>>76633579Any "muscle loss" during fasting is minimal and immediately regained upon refeeding, provided you eat enough protein and aren't fasting for absurdly long periods of time (we're taking 2+ weeks)>Any "muscle loss" during fasting is minimal and immediately regained upon refeeding, provided you eat enough protein and aren't fasting for absurdly long periods of time (we're taking 2+ weeks)Any "muscle loss" during fasting is minimal and immediately regained upon refeeding, provided you eat enough protein and aren't fasting for absurdly long periods of time (we're taking 2+ weeks)
Lost like 1.6 pounds today. Hope you guys are doing the same.
>>76633592I lose that much in a week, on average. Works for me.
>>76633583Lmao scrambling
>>76633644how much weight have you lost in the last 3 years doing your cico diet, OP?
>>76633659Is this another episode of "cico is bad and doesn't work"? I'm tired of reruns not gonna lie.
>>76633665are you going to tell us how much weight you've lost in the last 3 years you've been baking these threads and shitting on keto/fasting
>>76633667>everyone who disagrees with me is the same personNot how this website works, anon.
>>76633669are you going to tell us how much weight you've lost or not?
>>76632461>greek yogurtI ha e this on my baked potato now as a sour cream sub. It was weird at first but now love it.
Hello /fat/
>>76633583I'm just not gonna lose muscle by not fasting thank you very much
>>76633752Herro
>>76633758you lose muscle during caloric restriction regardlesshttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/agpwjPkGulY
>>76632461>greek yoghurtI used to have 2% fat greek yoghurt and it was godlike, but now for some reason I can't find it and only see 10%. Which is admittedly tastier but also has significantly more calories. So now I don't get greek yoghurt anymore.
>>76633752what did you fucking call me
>>76633772not if you do it rightalso>quotting jeff nipplelol as well as lmao
>>76633782>not if you do it rightare you going to finally tell us how much weight you've lost in the last 3 years op, so we can see you did it right?
>>76633784I am not op
>>76633785Wow it sure is a coincidence that we had 2 non nun threads in a row where people were freely discussing keto and fasting without your autism to shit it up, and then as soon as the nun threads come back so do you!What a strange coincidence.
>>76631202Depend on the peanut butter. If it's the low processed kind where the oil will separate if you leave it then yeah it's fine, but most peanut butters are loaded with transfats, sugar, excess salt and possibly additives.
>>76633800It's still a fuckload of calories, and for arguably not that much satiety too.
>>76633787>without your autism to shit it upunfortunately you came out of the woodwork to shit up the thread with your autismkys
>>76633183Yes, when you're thin 10lbs makes a huge difference. Fat and it likely won't matter.It's the paper towel roll principal where rolls stay huge until the very end where they shrink quickly because one sheet of paper can wrap the entire tube while a full roll requires 3 or so sheets to wrap it's outside.
>>76633826actually I was posting in those two threads while you were gone and giving people great advice.Maybe you should take cue and do the same instead of telling people they look like shit and mocking other posters for losing weight by fasting, or telling them they're "ngmi" because they don't follow your retarded dieting advice.
>76633836I think you should kill yourselflike right nowit would make the threads infinitely better
>>76633582at least you have a set goal in mind
>>76633582it's not punishmentyour subconcious is showing you that what you are doing is worthwhile and that you should continue
What's the science behind aspartame? Why is it the main sweetener in every form of diet soda? Is it really that bad for you?
>>76634007everyone who says it gives you cancer never actually knows anyone that has gotten cancer from it and i think thats telling enough
>>76634007it's cheapif given the choice (and I am) I would rather avoid it and use other sweeteners
>>76634007it's cheap goyslop.It gives you digestion issues
>drink many diet pops a day>also can't poopAre these two things related?
>>76630449Is eating 1500 calories a day while still having high protein fine for fat loss? I'm eating that much but with 200 grams of protein. I'm obviously lifting 4x a week on top of it with walking/cardio.
>>76634154yes? how are you even getting that much protein on 1500 calories? If you can keep that up without feeling like shit then that's your perfect diet for fat loss and muscle retention.
>>76634168Check this out dude.. This whole can of pink salmon is 500 calories, 100 grams of protein. Then, I down 3 scoops of Muscletech whey protein which has 30 grams of protein. Yeah, I know I know it's 190 grams of protein but I'll sneak in an egg sometimes to get it up to 200 grams of protein.Wait I forgot I eat one cup of rice with my salmon so actually I have 1700 calories. I do the trick where you put in a teaspoon or 2 of oil while the rice is cooking and freezing it.
>>76633787Just chiming in to say I made the last two threads and I am no one involved in this argument. Not everyone is your boogeyman.
>>76634007Its not bad for you but it will pump insulin in some people so it might fuck with hunger, if you dont get that go ham
>>76634178holy kekYeah that's fine, the only thing to keep in mind is that pink salmon is the least fatty salmon there is. If you start feeling like shit then it's probably because you're not getting enough fat on this diet, try switching to eggs or 90/10 lean ground beef a few days of the week. Only if you're feeling bad though.Also there's no downsides to excess protein in your diet, if your body can't use it then it will get shit / pissed out.
>>76634212Also I have no hate for any form of diet, I just like cute ducks trying to lose weight.
>>76633758Fasting is one of the most muscle sparing diets you can do, wtf are you on about?
>>76634333You are such a disgusting shill
>>76634361Do you even know what a shill is?
>>76634333I'm sure cutting proteins down to almost nothing or nothing is good for your muscles.
>>76634365Fasting induces a shorter time period for the same amount of fat loss and, "if you do it right", also minimizes muscle loss. A calorie deficit is also detrimental for muscles, stretched out over a much longer period of time.Even if you did lose more muscle (you don't) on a fast, the gain in time on the quick turnaround is enough to make it all back and then some. Source: Personal experience. If calorie restriction works better for you then go ahead, but I've tried both multiple times and rolling 48 hour fasts has always resulted in more fat loss and less strength/muscle loss over the same time period. For me, it's what works best.
>>76634380Pathetic shill
>chicken sausageWhat’s the deal with chicken sausage, theyre chicken, but they have other stuff too. Does /fat/ approve of chicken sausages?
everyday i eat like shit then feel like shit later on, i get reminded that macros really do matter and that focusing on just caloric intake isnt enough.unfortunately i already ate slightly above what i needed to for today + fasting all day tomorrow so i'll just have to suffer until friday.
>>76634599Jerry doesn't seem like a chicken sausage kinda guy to me. Kramer however would 100% be into them.
I'm trying to slack off on my deficit. I feel like I could chase a flat stomach all the way down to 140lbs. I'm going to eat clean and focus on my lifts for a while. 5'9 170lbs and still rocking a disgusting gut.
>>76634380All this could be backed up with a simple picture+date written on a piece of paper You said personal experience right? Okay, nut up buttercup
>>76634215Completely retarded. Nobody is suffering from too low of fat intake in 2025, and your body uses all the protein you eat, there's no Upper limit in one setting or one 24 hour period it just digest slow as fuck, whey is the fastest at 10g an hour and most whole foods digest at 6 grams an hour. We wouldn't be alive as a species if we pissed out excess protein, all the study's show aminos flowing in the blood stream for like 12 hours after a high protein meal. This is why intermittent fasting doesn't cause muscle loss, you eat 200g of protein at night and train fasted the next day and you are still digesting the protein all day until your next feeding window. The whole "excess protein gets pissed out" was started by a supplement company in the 90s who claimed 37g was the most that could be absorbed in one meal and low and behold they should protein powder with a 37g serving size kek. If you're interested in learning about protein you can pirate Lyle McDonalds protein book or just listen to the video that was just published on Solomon Nelsons channel with Lyle McDonald
>>76634634nobody cares about your ecelebs
>>76634599they taste like shit but they're higher protein and lower fat than pork sausages so yeah that's good for weight loss
>>76634638So not only are you fat and stupid, you spread bro science misinformation as well kek. I'm glad caveman spread out the protein from animal kills and didn't just eat it all at once.... Oh wait
>>76634599I like them.
>>76634646I am not clicking your linksI am not googling your eceleb
>>76634646>>76634651also you got mogged hard kekimagine getting mogged in the fatty general after years of lifting... yikes!
>76634651
>>76634654I think you are creating enemies in your head that don't exist, not sure what you're on about
The meme diet shills really don't stop do they
>>76634658ur gaslighting aint working lil bro u got mogged kekyou aren't living that down>>76606897>>76566551>>76608329
>>76634686Yeah that's a bro on here who's pretty cool, he's been lifting 6 years and me just shy of 2... You're point?
>>76634691
This may be a retarded question but, every morning weigh in do you guys weigh yourselves butt nekkid or do you just make sure you're wearing something light like the shorts you wake up in for example, I feel like I'm frauding myself when I go from 74 to 73.1 just because I dropped the shorts, I know it isn't fat loss, just clothes
>>76634695While the statement "there's no upper limit on protein" is a simplification, research suggests there isn't a strict upper limit for protein absorption for muscle building, but there are practical limits for utilization. Consuming very large protein doses, such as 100 grams, can lead to greater increases in muscle protein synthesis compared to smaller doses, but excess protein beyond your body's needs is stored as fat or used for other metabolic processes. However, factors like age, health conditions, and exercise intensity influence individual protein needs, and a qualified professional can help determine your optimal intake. Key Takeaways:Absorption vs. Utilization:While your body can virtually absorb any amount of protein you consume, the amount used for muscle protein synthesis is what matters for building muscle. Debunking the Myth:The old idea of a strict 20-30 gram upper limit for protein absorption per meal has been largely debunked by recent research. Larger Doses Can Be Effective:Studies show that higher protein intake, even up to 100 grams in one meal, can stimulate greater muscle protein synthesis than smaller doses, especially when measured over longer periods (e.g., 12 hours). Excess Protein is Stored:Protein that isn't used for muscle building or other vital functions will be converted and stored as fat. Again do you have a point? Idk why you're so riled up yung blud
>>76634702ass crack naked, everytime
>im not who you think I am, you're a schizo>wtf how did u know that was me>chatgpt response
>>76634702do you even fat? we weigh naked
>people really chatgpt things and then post them like they understand itKek
Really hoping to be in the 120s by this Sunday. Didn't think I'd be able to do it when I weighed in at 134 earlier this week, but there was a very significant whoosh at some point and at weigh in today of 130.2kg, I should make it into the 120s by Sunday.WAGMI
>>76634702usually the clothes i wear while sleeping, i don't think it's enough of a weight difference to be significant
>>76634702I walk from my bedroom to the bathroom in just my dressing gown, usually having to pass my parents. Simplifies the nekkidness process. If I was smart, I'd just move the scale to my bedroom.
>>76634599It's hard to get right but is great when it works. The stuff that doesn't taste like shit costs a lot though. I'm working on making my own but haven't gotten close to replicating the good ones I've tasted.
>>76634702The reality is it doesn't matter. Weight loss isn't a daily or even weekly thing. It's a monthly, yearly lifelong endeavor. Wearing clothes or not, drinking water or not, shitting or not none of that matters. You need to track your weight and only long amounts of time can show your true progress.
>>76634792Just answer the question, lil bro.
>>76634794I answered your question, read it again if you didn't get it the first time.
>>76634796No, you deflected and turned it into some rant about how gay you are.Do you weigh nekkid or not?
>>76634802God helps those who help themselves, you'll figure it out I'm sure.
>>76634805Leviticus 18:22.Just answer the question.
>Weight hasn't moved in almost two months>Waistline went from 40" to 36"How does this make sense?
>>76634812you're supposed to weigh naked but shit on the scale
>>76634824im guessing you're getting jacked bro
>>76634825How very Indian of you.
>>76634824When you lose weight, your body doesn't use the fat in a way that's optimal for fat storage.Your fat redistributes after you've lost weight, leading to shape changes without weight changes.
I live in the countryside, I like hiking, but I'm not sure that's enough to really lose weight (or maybe not fast enough). Would buying a few weights be a good idea, since I can't go to the gym (and don't really want to either)?
>>76634854Yes but walking isn't all about losing weight, it's good for the whole body. It builds stamina, it lets you get sunlight and fresh air. It's one of the best things you can do for a long life. People that regularly walk and remain healthy won't break down as easily in old age. Get some weights and do some lifting but it's not the be all end all. I encourage you to keep walking and even do more of it but just don't think it's going to magically make you skinny. Diet is still 90% of weight loss.
>>76634825The question wasn't what you're supposed to do, but what you do. 'Cause if you do that, it seems unnecessarily messy.
>>76634902How else are you going to track your bowel movements?
>>76634902the mess is worth it for consistencyif you arent pissing and shitting on the scale your weight will fluctuate
do people really fast while also lifting? im so fucking hungry
>>76634909I usually check for blood in the bowl or on the paper, that's about the extent of my bowel analysis.
>>76634915its hard at first but you get used to it, need to supplement electrolytes to not lift like ass tho
>>76634913You can expel waste in the toilet, and that should be fine. Then you can just flush it away, and it's gone. For instance, I weigh myself naked after my morning piss, it really doesn't need to be on the scale for you to maintain consistency.
>>76634858>don't think it's going to magically make you skinnyI know, I know... >Diet is still 90% of weight loss.Yeah, my sister got a bypass and she lost a lot of weigh, I'm kinda jealous considering it's mostly due to her diet changes rather than exercising.
>>76634932not everyone has the golden butthole like youshitting on the scale works for everyone
>>76634937why dont u also get a bypass
>>76634943Nah. You're just being a disingenuous faggot.
>>76634937Don't get a bypass, surgery is not the solution. You can do it just take little steps each day to improve. You don't have to become mr perfect overnight. Building good habits is the key, try to plan ahead of time as much as possible. Know what you are going to eat before you eat it. And find some sort of reward and cope mechanism that isn't food. So when you feel or bad you won't turn to food to comfort you.
No one is shitting on the scale, come on you guys. We're all adults here, why are you falling for such childish banter?
>>76634963enjoy ballooning up to an even fatter fuck because you cant measure your weight accurately
>>76634944I'm not as fat as she was, it took her like a year and an half to get approved for surgery and I'm pretty sure that in that time I could easily get to lose some weight (which would make me unable to get a bypass). And having a bypass is a bother altogether. >>76634964>Don't get a bypass, surgery is not the solutionI totally agree, in her case I think it was a good solution but I'm sure I can do without. >And find some sort of reward and cope mechanism that isn't food.Well I have depression and the stuff I take makes apathetic and I can skip a day without eating easily.
Is it me or getting good exercise where you sweat quite a bit will numb your hunger?
Pray to the banana god.>>76635016>>76635016>>76635016
Does anyone else start crying or freaking out after lifting? Is this at all normal?I got abused a lot as a kid and I'm slowly losing weight (maybe it'll stick this time lol) and finally seriously lifting weights for the first time in my life. Every time I do a full effort workout (sometimes I give up when it starts getting hard) my suicidal urges come back bad and I remember shit and start crying. Not a woman.>>76630511Move out ASAP.