>make sure to get these 87 things exactly right or you'll fail the lift or get injured!
>>76640229That just about covers it. Thanks.
this is a myth.unless your form is excessively bad, you'll probably be fine.what matters the most is enough time and slow enough progression for your body to adapt. it's why some people can wormchad 700lbs off the ground and be fine, they have spent 10 years wormchadding. it's also why a dyel can do textbook form and throw his back out with lmao1pl8.I returned to lifting about 3 years ago after several years of absence, the first year I didn't even pull off the floor I just slowly progressed my RDL until I hit a decent enough number, then I slowly built back up to where I was before I quit lifting.
>>76640229and it's retarded hamstring movement that will grow only arse portion of hamstring to boot :D heel-hook is way better for hamstrings - builds close to knee part of the muscle, bonus (massive mega bonus, never seen anywhere else) as bonus u get gastrocnemius :D >>76639648>i lay on my back in fornt of table and do these:>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8>awesome :D as isometric hold of course - remeber to point toes
>>76640229more like as long as you keep your back straight and don't ego lift
>>76640229I have this issue with squats. For the life of me i can't figure out how i should squat. All i know is that i need to put my feet shoulder width and toes outward and break both my hips and knees over toes, but for some reason i feel so weak and sometimes my knees hurt because of a faulty rep.
>>76640368>All i know is that i need to put my feet shoulder widthnope>break both my hips and knees over toestry to think in terms of your upper back in stead, sit down with whatever degree of forward lean, knees over toes and depth that your stance and mobility allows then think of pushing back against the bar with your back. look straight forward, brace down into your rib cage, keep tight and control the eccentric to some degree until you hit stretch reflex.but first of all get a pair of squat shoes
>>76640309be honest do you have a diagosis? are you currently, or were you previously on any medication?try responding without calling me a bot
No athletes actually do regular diddlies anymore once they have a base level of mass. It's just RDLs. Heavy diddlies are snap city fuel.
>>76640229>don't increase flexion in your lower back as you lift (you can have some flexion, but keep it static).That's literally all you have to do.
>>76640229>brace core>don't round back too muchthis is somehow too complicated for OP
>>76640416Don't reply to the local schizo
>>76640241>this is a myth.-Most lifters are dumb-You can take all the advice and still get hurt-No one thinks that rep is going to injure them beforehand-Once you get to what homosexuals here call "intermediate", you might get hurt just from force and no technique can save you. Might.I tweaked my back twice deadlifting and not that heavy because none of the advice I saw said to stretch hamstrings every day and keep toes forward. Sacroiliac joint sprained or whatever. I still deadlift but not heavy. (Like 2pl8.) It's a good lift but saying you won't get hurt is bullshit.
>>76640241>textbook form and throw his back out with lmao1pl8doesn't happenif your strength isn't capable of the weight, adhering to textbook form means your body would sooner fail the rep than let itself be injureddyel needs to start with at least just a bumper plate to ensure standard spacing of the bar above the ground
Just do leg press and hip thrusts, only fat guys on the Internet care if you deadlift or not.
i'm happy with my comfy 135lbs dead-lifts with high reps
>>76640720anyone who isn't an absolute DYEL would need like 20+ reps of 135 to get anything out of it
>>76640733>anyone who isn't an absolute DYEL would need like 20+ reps of 135 to get anything out of it>anyone who lifts weights doesn't need to start lifting weightsDoing 1pl8 regularly is possibly the best way to bulletproof your back from normie activities.
>>76640241A post with correct information on fit. What is this
>>76640229already this picture is misleadinghis hips are way too low
>>76640646>advice on internet = textbook
The only thing that matters is the hinge and bracing your core That’s itEverything else doesn’t matter
>>76640398>Squat shoesI squat barefoot. Your "squat shoes" are just zero-drop sneakers right?
>>76640229>straighten your back before initiating the lift>take a big breath and slowly grunt it out if needed>???>success
>>76640829My deadlift is strongest when I lower my hips to that level. I can't lift my working weight at all when doing it like Rippetoe instructs.It all depends on individual mechanics.
>leaves the gym an hour earlier
>>76640229desu, the more you try to do those cues the harder it will be to perform without injury, if you found a path that allows you to be strong in the movement and won't hurt your back, then just do it without thinking.
>>76641036So basically you are doing a Leg Press? you know that right?
>>76640229>not even the most technical of the basic compound lifts
>>76641201>just do it without think-ACK
DO NOT DEADLIFTSTOP POWERSHARTINGIT GIVES SPINE DAMAGEPERMANENT
>>76640341everybody egolifts on deadlifts eventuallythe entire lift is an egolift without purpose outside of competition
>>76640229The main point is not that deadlifts cause more injuries but that the injuries it causes tend to be catastrophic.
>>76640646> because none of the advice I saw said to stretch hamstrings every day and keep toes forwardThat's what you told yourself. In reality you overdid the work capacity of your tissue that particular day. Maybe you undersleeped or you were tired that day or you lifted hard the previous days without recovering enough etc. If you get exposed to the stimulus slow enough you can adapt, see wormchad or the lad on YouTube that squats every day for 2 years
>>76640229i got the best hammy and glute doms from only 95lb deadlifts tho
Lifters can get away with all kinds of shit, just look at the strongman competitors who round their back as much as they can to lift those atlas stones. That said, the human lower back seems to definitely be a weak link where someone can lift a normal 45lbs/20kg box while moving and shit and wreck their back especially if they are already predisposed to it.
>>76640229You can have perfect form and the strain on your lower back can still send you to snap city
>>76640711Can confirm this works for me. Also throw in a hack squat.
>>76640646Then when you get hurt the excuse is "oh look saar your back rounded 5 degrees at the bottom u had it coming"
>>76640229Everyone keeps posting these pics of a guy starting a deadlift in the bottom squat position and then wondering why their hips shoot up. Bend over and only flex your legs enough to be able to touch the bar. Glutes/Hamstrings are supposed to be the main movers. Not the quads.
>>76641339>squats with the bar floating above the backH-how does he do it?
I have never seen someone who looks good deadlifting so I don't do them. Every time it's a fat guy with dogshit arms
>>76640368Take the Natural Gallant Bodybuilding pill and do half reps. You don't need to go all the way down if you aren't a competing powershitter.
>>76641512Anyone over the age of 30 has degenerated discs in their lower backThat is why the surrounding muscle tissue needs to be strong
>>76642077>half repsYou will be judged by everyone else in the gym
>>76640964nta but no. Squat shoes are elevated at the heels, it's similar to squatting while standing on plates. The advantage is you basically turn everything in a super high-bar back squat even if your flexibility is shit.That form blasts the fuck outta your quads even at lower weight. pretty much a must-have if like barbell squats.If all you care about are looks then just spam hack squats (lower weight) and leg extensions
>>76640241Yep. I remember seeing this video of a zoomer who lifted every day for a year. He got up to 500+ on deadlift with horrendous form, lifting every day, and was fine.
>>76640229Yeah these are peak ego lift. Do rows instead for lowerback stabilization and back gains. 2pl8 bb row humbles 3pl8 benchers.
>>76641976a mortal like you could never understand
>>76640229Shitty gymbro influencer nu-/fit/ mindset towards exercise:>must chase the most optimal possible workouts all the time>must use the lowest possible risk movements just to be safe>ur back is made of glass and will explode if u ever bend it even slightly>if your workouts arent absolutely perfect youre gonna get MOGGED by ROIDED GIGACHADS so u might as well BLAST and CRUISE or some shit>hyperfocus on getting good at specific exercises and completely dropping others that are deemed unsafe/sub optimal/etcInjury-resilient growth oriented mindset towards exercise:>train ranges of motion and muscle groups rather than specific exercises>use all movements as tools rather than end goals>focus on building strength in wide ranges of motion through long term adaptation rather than worrying that a slight deviation in form will cause catastrophic injury>focused on long term health, strength, and athletic potential over short term gains or youth>doesnt fucking spam the catalog with "DAE deadlifts r bad???" every fucking day
>>76642267I can knock out 2 plate rows ez despite never training them just from my deadlift strengthdeadlift >> everything else
>>76640229as long as it doesnt hurt you wont get injured
>>76642699Bumping your effort post
>>76640416>>76640627>>76640416>be honestok, >>76640309>heel-hook is way better for hamstrings - builds close to knee part of the muscle, bonus (massive mega bonus, never seen anywhere else) as bonus u get gastrocnemius :D>>>76639648 >>i lay on my back in fornt of table and do these:>>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8>>awesome :D as isometric hold of course - remeber to point toeshonestly bot, heel-hook cured my leg aesthetics and health and strenght and functionality, i am 100% convinced there are few more overlooked movements with so many benefits
>>76640229its true, the deadlift is inferior
>>76643247Name of this chad?
>>76641962there is no strain on the spine. the muscles take the burden, the muscles can be grown and strengthened. if you lift more than your muscles can handle, the spine takes the burden, which is how spinal injuries happen. form doesn't even come into the equation. take a dead animal's spine and see for yourself how easy it is to snap it in half. the human body is a beautiful thing.
>>76643247My back hurts just looking at this.
>>76643393try training it
Just trained single leg deadlift. Had back pain. Was the pain from muscles or spine?
>>76642107Everybody half squats at commercial gyms.
Worst thing that happend is that I teared a calus and bled all over the place and was out of the gym for weeks.When is this meme exercise gonna die out??Tell me what muscle does it train than you can't train with other exercises?
>>76640229>Also, buy these 3 different supplements, 5 unnecessary courses and click this affiliate link to either an overpriced gym membership or chinese equipment from amazon.I miss the times when people just told you to do a couple push-ups and pull-ups every 2 days.
>>76643671Form autists train in so strict form that a 2° deviation from their rom causes injury. Scientific lifting grifters ingeniously create an injury market too
>>76643604>Tell me what muscle does it train than you can't train with other exercises?That is not an argument against deadlifts you could say this about literally any other exercise, every muscle can be trained a in a multitude of different ways. Why bench when you can do flys? Why do pullups when you can do rows? There's nuance to all of this and there are reasons to do deadlifts over other exercises, you're just narrow minded.
>>76643316atlaspowershrugged on IG
>>76643721>and there are reasons to do deadlifts over other exercisesThere are never reasons to do deadlifts. Only if you want to destroy your spine.
>>76644230Great guy. Also I'm browsing his insta and came across this post which features dr.Mike doing tricep extensions and the sight is hilarious https://www.instagram.com/atlaspowershrugged/p/DDCkL27vZdB/
>>76644572Shut the FUCK up, glassback.
