>Who is /fat/ for?For aerobic activity anons working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>76645112
>>76651546Doordash was worse for my wallet than my health desu
>>76651556I stopped using it once I took advantage of all the new account offersIt's way too expensive
i will eat no more than 900 a day and work out at least 3 times this week im determined to escape this skinny-fat hell by the end of this year
so hungry...
Remember, its not about losing weight, its about being healthy.
>>76651750I need to lose weight to be healthy.
>>76651754Be healthy, and your body will eventually reflect who you are. The point is that you should not be unhappy until the weight is gone.
Remember that muscleloss is an overexaggerated memeWhen you lose weight you mostly lose fatThe only time you ever get real muscle atrophy is when you have your limbs in a cast and can't move them at all or you're bedriddenAtrophy comes from inactivity
>>76651761I'll expand on this point by proposing the idea of daily showers. What is the point? There is no progress to be made there so why do it? Because you want to be clean. Cleanliness is an ideal, just as good health is an ideal.
managed to fix my stationary bike alone
>>76648409>Has anyone tried those retatrutide compounds? Not ozempic, specifically reta.I am going to start it in a few weeks. I talked to the endocrinologist today about starting wegovy (semaglutide/ozempic), she said I should do Mounjaro (reta) instead, but wants me to do some cardiology exams before she'll prescribe it. (That would have been the case if I did wegovy too)
>>76651764wrong
>>76651750That's right HAESbro, a calorie is just a made up number.
>>76651928I'm not making a scientific argument here. Being fat is not healthy and everyone knows that. The idea I am trying to give people is that you should not be unhappy because you are fat right now. You should derive happiness from your choice to be healthy and your actions toward fulfilling that ideal. In the same way you derive happiness knowing you are cleanly because you take a shower and wear new clothes every day.
>>76651546Fatty ContestObiwanjabroni247.5 lbs
>>76651546>no nuns>no ducksbait. this thread is bait.
I can’t believe I didn’t stuck to dieting when I was 10 years younger Depressing shit
>did two consecutive chin-ups My power grows every day
>>76652122I'm old enough that I can look back and pinpoint the point of no return where I could have made a change and saved my life. It was longer than 10 years ago but yeah it's sad. It's a divine joke of the universe that we age the way we do. We don't gain any wisdom until we are too old to make use of it. When our brains are finally fully functioning our bodies have broken down. We should come out of the womb crippled and get stronger over time.
>at 1900 calories>still hungryhmm does eating at 2k or less a day get easier..or?
>>76652162eat less calorie dense food
>>76652162Roast some broccoli, will fill you up and basically no calories.
>>76651768Good job anon, my stationary bike pedal fell off last week. Annoying for sure, but fixing it definitely got me motivated
>>76651556Saving money on Mounjaro by not eating sloppa 5 times a week.
>>76651773Are you the Italian guy from the other thread?They want to send you to a cardiologist too?Healthcare is such a scam.
>>76652154>We don't gain any wisdom until we are too old to make use of it.That's what parents are for: guiding you and helping you make wise choices. Unfortunately, a lot of obese kids just have dumbshit, neglectful parents that deserve to be publicly flogged.
>>76652149Impressive and based.
well I lost like 12 lbs in 3 months. that's inadequate, but it's something. going to up the ante.
Been counting cals, running and lifting like a mofo, from Aug 28th to Today. Down about 18 lbs. Pic related. Feels fucking good.
I just realized I've eaten my standard meal of ~120g ground beef + 2 eggs at least 6 times in the past 5 days
>>76652424looks like you lost a bit more than just 18nice job
Are factor meals good for weight loss? I'm too lazy to cook and I'm already wasting more money on doordash anyways.
>>76652469tbf, I was at 224, got on creatine, went up to 230 ish. And I'm now at 212. So it could be creatine making me look bigger than I really am.Thanks!
>>76651571>no more than 900 a dayDo you just sit around all day or are you 2 feet tall?
>>76652567yes to both
My 1 month progress:August 17 - 99.8 kgSeptember 23 - 93.3 kgGoal: 80 kg by DecemberI'm gonna make it, right?
>>76652720seems like ur maekin' it brah
Can someone borrow me 500 calories?
Is it true that I should avoid doing cardio that'll get my heart rate high when fasting? I heard that it promotes muscle loss I've been doing stair master and high incline running for cardio, is it best to replace it with walks or very light jogs?
>>76651546What are some nice scales under $100 that are pretty good with all the body fat% and such.
>>76652810I have no idea where you heard that but it's the exact opposite, any form of moderate or intense exercise during fasts (24+ hours) decreases muscle loss. The only thing to watch out for is intense weight lifting, if your body doesn't have the protein required to rebuild the muscle then you'll start having actual loss. Just don't go longer than 2/3 days if you're also lifting.
>go to jp>measure at 75.1 kg at start>feel like i eat less than usual, maintenance at worst>walk around all day>still go to gym>notice i can tighten my belt 1-2 holes more than usual>come home>measure 76.5 kgnigger I wasn't going to care during my holiday but why the fuck can I tighten and gain weight
>>76652122It's so interesting. I've watch a bunch of former 400, 500 lbs people lose weight. And I think pretty much all of them were in their 30s, some were pushing 40, some were in their 40s. And pretty they had either been fat since they were teenagers or got fat in their 20s onwards. So they had been fat for well over a decade if not more.Yet they all lost the weight. The guys I am thinking of lost it without GLP-1s. This was like 5 years or so ago. It's crazy because people always say its harder to lose it when you are older, especially after 30 but really more so the older you get. And I think sure but not really. But anyway my point is all they lost it and have mostly kept it off. Which is kinda blackpilling because if they had just done it when they were in their 20s they could've been done with it. Instead they spent years needlessly fat. It's a major blackpill for them. This really got me thinking about how BS the "95% of fat people who lose weight gain it back" stat is if these dudes were able to do it and keep it off.
>>76651556Why do people use it? I still don't get it.During Covid or at work I can understand but why order doordash when you're at home? Just buy a bunch of frozen pizzas or microwave burgers from the supeermarket and throw them in a microwave if you wanna be lazy and eat slop at home
>>76651546>start year at 215 lb>currently at 175lb>Once every few months I get crazy cravings and feel like a food junky until I fall asleepI want to eat cheese cakeI want to eat double cheese pizzaI want to eat fruitloopsI want to eat doritosI want to eat sour cream chipsI want to eat white powdered donutsI want to eat chocolate donutsI want to eat Reese's peanut butterI want to drink cokeI want to just get out of my chair and walk to my local grocery store but I'm so desperate to hit 160 again in my adult life.
What are you guys doing when your days are shitty and you REALLY want to say FUCK THIS SHIT and go demolish a buffet or something? Been feeling really anxious and depressed for a bit now and I really want to pig out on something. Im not even hungry, I just want the dopamine hit from eating. I keep finding myself trying to convince myself to "just go eat, you have lost so much weight already that it doesnt matter" etc. I have been able to think my way out of it but damn, my willpower is not infinite.
25lbs to go
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 101.05 kgOverall progress:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyMotivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3ik2wjXnq0
>>76653066>eat a pound of ground turkey fried up with onions>eat an entire rotisserie chicken>eat an entire watermelon when you know you're going overeat anyway, do it in a way that minimizes the damage. nobody is perfect. everybody screws up from time to time. let yourself fail gracefully. it's not rocket surgery. afterward when you are painfully full and feeling regret you'll be better able to stick to your diet going forward.
>>76653009I believe in you fren
Resumed skipping dinner (so basically doing OMAD since I don't have breakfast either), just a bit of discipline and I bet my abs will start showing by the end of October>>76652162in my experience it does get easier, my appetite definitely decreases after a couple of weeks of strict dieting
Will I need to worry about being skinnyfat if I lose 0,8kg/week on average? I lift thrice a week and hit my protein goals, been at it for 3 months now, there was decent progress in strength but visual one was very negligible, as I'm still at like 30% bf.
>>76653193Worry about being skinny first then worry about putting on muscle.
>>76653193You can keep making gains all the way to 20% bf, no problem. Especially if it's newbie gains. Just keep up the protein and progressing with lifts. You should have noticeable muscle by around 25% bf.
>>76652424Excellent progress. Good job. Happy for you.
>Last meal was 45g of protein and 600 calories>That was 6 hours ago>Starting to get hungry againtime to lock in and go another 12 hours without eating, this is prime weight loss time
>>76653272Peak ngmi
>>76652427only 2 eggs?>>76652502no, it's shitlrn2cook
As soon as I'm done losing weight I am never touching watermelon again in my life. fucking fake flavorless food for niggers
>>76653319just buy a good watermelon
>steak>sweet potato >mixed veggies Tell me you need more
>>76653332eggsremove the veggies and potatoes
really makes you think that you can have a couple dozen pounds of ballast wrapped around you and still function mostly normally
>>76653351Or several hundred pounds like the tubby Kings in here
>>76653357fatshaming is a sin anon
>>76653319Skissue desu, watermelon is delicious
>>76653373Being an obeast is a sin
>>76651661iktf
>>76653441I've gone to bed early to resist late night hunger, wgmi hopefully
CICO? Dull.Fasting? Good but not enough.To be a REAL fat-burning machine, you MUST be ketogenic, plummeting your insulin level to ever sub-zero. Eat ZERO carbs, dump a protein shake in your body, and FORGET about mystery green veggies. It doesn't make you magically full like some people say and it is damn expensive. All you need are cheap nuts; Skippy will also do. These two are the best weapons I have ever experienced and I am burning fat like crazy with minimum to zero hunger even on 1000kcal deficit. Nuts do a miracle job to quench it, your protein-based excrement is always manifested to be a pain, and nuts solve this problem too.
>>76653272I'm so fucking hungry
starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8current weight: 107.8 kg 23/9goal weight: 70 kgheight: 179 cmmethod: rolling 72s with salt water and coffeethe feast was a mayor setback
man people really do treat you better when you're less fat
>>76653900Thanks migu
>>76653787>Eat ZERO carbs>all you need are cheap nutsbut those do have some carbs, hell even whey isolate has a tiny bit.Wasn't the rule something like "less than 40g of carbs a day"?
>>76653907when you are fat it's obvious that you don't respect yourself, so others are compelled to not respect you either
>>76653970not him but you're absolutely correct, nuts isnt really recommended for keto. some say 30g per day but it's easier to aim for 0 and disregard whatever microscopic amounts that are in whey.
Went from 330lbs to 205lbs and chilled through summer now around 220lbs really need to lock in and get down to around 170lbs which is low single digit body fat for me. Locking in is harder now though
>nuts
>>76654003I see, thanks. I've never done keto but I might try it out for shit and giggles, biggest obstacle would be having to be as selective as a vegan at social gatherings I bet
>>76653907If getting fit puts unlocks your power level too much, men get hostile and women get insecure and both will try to tear you down in their own way.
>>76651546I have lost 150 lb over the past two years and since February have been more or less successfully maintained weight staying in the 150 to 160 range, but for the life of me cannot decide whether I want to start bulking, keep maintaining, or start cutting again. On one hand maintaining / bulking while lifting weights will definitely help me get some muscle and replace some of my loose skin but I definitely do feel like 155 is a bit heavy for me, a 5'6 male(don't laugh)( I'm bad at telling what's fat and what's loose skin) and really do want to say at least at least one point in my life I was 140 lb ,which the internet says is a good weight for someone my height.Since for the past 8 months I have been maintaining successfully I do think that goes to show I have willpower to do whatever I want, be it bulking, maintaining, or cutting since I know maintaining a lot of people really struggle with.
>>76654006>pigged the fuck out on almonds last night
weight myselfnumbers are down -> feel nothingnumbers are up/same -> the voices are back
>>76653904>the feast was a mayor setbackYeah, you really gotta learn how to eat after fasting. When I was first starting fasting I was eating like 3000-4000 cals when I finally ate.Now that Im used to it I typically consume around 1000-1500 cals of meat the day I eat.
>>76654014You will do better today
>>76654007You'd be surprised at how versatile it is, again just to be super clear; we're not splitting hairs, we're avoiding carbs as much as reasonably possible. If something at a social gathering has like a walnut crumble on it, you can have it. I'm making chicken wings and a nice salad with cheese and i will absolutely glaze the wings with a tiny bit of sugary amerifat barbecue sauce because in the greater scheme of things it wont matter. Also doing OMAD as well to further bolster my position. Good luck, all the best!
>>76654022They're so small, how can they be so many calories...
>>76654023I'm italian and here the food at any social event basically always has flour-based products, also beer...Cut is going fine anyway but if I'll still have stubborn fat I'll try keto in November since I hardly go out during that time of the year anyway. Thanks, good luck to you too!
I'm not gonna go to the gym today, I'm still sore from going yesterday and the day before
I hate weight fluctuation. I probably shouldn't weigh myself every day.
>>76651567same. restaurants also got smarter on deals, so no more coupon stacking.
>>76654127Yeah you shouldn't
>>76654127I weigh myself every day, but then I put it into a spreadsheet so I can get a weekly average. It's helped me not stress about the daily changes
>>76653009bro that is all stuff with carbs. are you on high-protein? take a couple days to eat potatoes and rice.
>>76654127You eventually get used to it, and it's not so bad. You just sort of grow numb to the variations and it becomes data until you decide to do the weekly average and work out how much you've lost/gained over the week.
>>76654127Nah, it's okay. You don't need to be shocked after you eat some salted pickles and on the scale.
>>76653787what I've learned is that prolonged fasting is too unsustainable for most people to do with any regularity. fasting needs to be incorporated into everyday life, but that means it needs to be something you do indefinitely, for the rest of your life, even. it's a lot easier when you balance a daily 22 or 23 hour fast with a 1 or 2 hour eating window, and actually restrain yourself, rather than binging like a freak. this has been my problem - I'd fast for 72 hours and then be ravenous for a day, and then go back to fasting. maybe that can work for some people but for me it just had me constantly thinking about food and being low energy. also the diarrhea is what killed me, I just can't balance refeeding properly for some reasonand I don't know why. however, fasting taught me the value of how it feels to be "empty" and that is something I think more people should learn. it also taught me that hunger is more psychological than people think.at any rate, I still think fasting is a very useful tool, but if your dietary habits are out of whack, you're going to suffer and they need to be addressed. balance is key.to comment on keto: nuts are fucking great. nuts and peanut butter. good shit.
Ermm just fast and exercise
>>76654195>at any rate, I still think fasting is a very useful tool, but if your dietary habits are out of whack, you're going to suffer and they need to be addressed. balance is key.Well yeah, everyone has to figure out what to do after losing weight. Fasting is almost a cheat code on that regard that its so damn easy and fast to lose weight but far easier to go back to old shitty habits. Tho I must say, after getting used to fasting I really cant go back to the basic bitch calorie restriction, tho people should count calories for like half a year to really figure out how much food one is actually eating. Also need to be realistic about goals and everything else, after permabulking my whole life I have so much loose skin that my body will never be perfect so I like to slowly gain weight for like a year and then fast away the fat asap.
>12 inch pizza - 2160 calories - $9.49>14 inch pizza - 3060 calories - $10.49
>>76654251Don't even fucking think about it, anon
Yesterday I indulged in two potato chip. They weighed a total of 4 grams and contributed a total of 20 calories. They were really quite delicious.
finally got down from 253 to 216 while on quetiapine
>>76654271Antipsychotics are a killer
>>76654260Hi Hatboy, always good to see you. Stay strong fren :)
Fatty ContestNapoli88.1Predictable correction after hitting the buffet before also slacking off the exercise, i did finish the second week of running and just finished the first run of the third week. Getting back to fasting to compensate, trying for the 72h but might have a huel in between now and friday.
>>76654383Im trying. Down 50lbs since I started, basically was stagnant all summer at 228 but im finally out of the 220s.
>>76654259
>>76654251>2 extra inches adds 900kcals What Jewish magic is this?
>>76654251buy, but don't all at once
>>76654447Almost all food calorie labeling at mom and pop fast food places is just made upEven large chains have a high threshold for mistakes, because this stuff is just not getting controlled properly
>>76654447(14^2)/(12^2)=1.361.36*2160=2938
>Currently in the middle of a couple of months of keto. >Had to do a 24 hour clear liquid only fast for an MRI>Didn't even get hungry.
>>76654591Knowers know, keto is the one true diet for fat extermination. But it's also true that it's not ideal for your high-intensity weight lifting performance thus hypertrophy. So when you are in bulking mode, you'd better return to eating carbs, feeling glycogen in your veins to lift the hell up.
what do you peeps do when you've consumed a really low amount of calories and then cravings hit during nighttime?
>>76654652Sounds like you ate some sugary carbs. It will wane away, although during that short period your fat-burning process will halt and the spiked insulin level will agonize you with hunger for a while.
i heard coffee helps with appetite suppression but drinking coffee on an empty stomach makes me nauseous do I just have shit coffee?
>>76654750no it means you need to eat something first or take omeprazole
>>76654750it does help i basically only drink coffee on an empty stomach. black coffee with no sugar or anything
Reta 3mg a week + Titzepatide 7mg a weekWorth it ??Reta is expensive so need to mix
>>76654770Man I'm on 3.5mg tirzepatide and its flooring my digestionI dont want anymore than that
Lost 6KG so far anons. :3
>>76654775Im taking 15mg Tirzepatide and barely feel shitI guess you have to eat a ketogenic diet while doing this ?
>>76654914I'm not eating keto lmao, low fat actuallyChickenbreast,fish, chickpeas for proteinRice/potatoes for carbsVeggies and fruits for fiber
>>76654914How can you feel nothing? How fatty brained are you.
cottage cheese carries my whole diet
>>76654914Bro, I took 2.5mg and didn't need to eat for like 3 days.
>>76654914You must be the king fatty
>>76654914non responder?
>>76654980Im 220 lbs 5’8
>>76655028And you injected it into your belly fat, right? Didn't drink it or anything?
>>76655058Yes
>>766544472 inches of diameter on a circular pizza. Adds more surface area
>>76655028post bod
>>76654429It gets harder the lower you get, I know that issue. Struggling with my last 5kg too, but locked in as can be
>carbs are fattening>but need them for work>protein are apparently satiating >but hardly any energy for workJust let me lose weight already!
>>76655353stfu retardyou are fat and you dont need anything for workyou could work for months without food and you'd be fine
>>76654929Watch the sodium
>>76654251Just make your own dough and control what you put on it for much cheaper, it ain't hard.
>>76652424kino cutting progressgj
if you're fat you probably have a mushroom deficiency
>>76655515I just ate a pound of sauteed mushrooms to I dont think so fella.
>>76655515Mushrooms are so freaking tasty, doods.
a black lady gave me a sassy compliment ;3
I dont have mushroom for much more :)
Day 10 of no shit
Slipped up and accidentally drank 30 beers in the last week. Still lost 3.5lbs. 208 to 204.5. Goal weight is 195 by October 18th. Probably did 60-70 miles walked or ran so that probably helps. Going to go sober. If you have body fat don't eat
>>76655520T. Anon who has been mind possessed by fungus
>>76654147Same. I weigh myself everyday and look at my average weight for the week. List 2 pounds every week for the last 5 weeks.
>>76655750i think u might be an alcoholic
>>76655786I am stopping drinking to shred though
>>76651546>For aerobic activity anonsOnly? Lifting works well for weight loss
>>76655813It does not,
>>76651546switched from fasting to 1500-1700ish kcal per day and training to maintain strength. What was the point of going on the dirty bulk and fucking up my skin if I can't at least still bench 300 for reps. I lost alot of strength on a 12 day fast when i kicked started this weightlossI work remote but got an irl job to help with my fitness levels. I lifegaurd at a pool 8 hours monday through thursday. half an hour on the stand, half an hour off 13 an hour in rural ohio.I made a game of seeing how many miles i could walk in my time on the stand, and I study on my 30 minutes off the stand ( or just watch youtube or emulate snes on my phone)I also go to the gym in the Y on my 30s off and lift.Here is what I did todaybench 225 for 2 sets of 10. on my 3rd set of ten it felt iffy so i did 6, rested, and then did 5.deadlift 315 for 3x10.Due to walking so much in a humid enviorment i have developed a yeast infection on my balls it hurts so much i could cry, i can no longer walk so i am being conscienous in my kcal.what i ate todayabout 500kcal of crackers and choclates in the break room before my lift (i am overestimating, probably like 300-400)1 pound of ground turkey for about 100g of protein in 520kcal (ultra lean)1 tub of chobani strawberry yougurt with a cup of whey mixed in.Just shy of 200 grams of protein, according to a dexa scan (i am in the military reserves and have access to one) i am 183lbs lean body mass. Total weight today is 256 down from 282 at 6ft 1.5. I was coming off knee surgery and lost all my gains and got skinny fat and foolishly and unintentionally started a bulk when my bodyfat started with a 2Anyways that is how I am going. You anons tell me how you are doing.
>>76652424you look great
>Havent had pizza in over 2 months>get some cravings>budget out for the next few days, perfectly fit a medium pizza in my macros>Order from dominoes, get extra cheese, all of the 'high protein' options>get there, they make me wait 30 minutes even after the app says the pizza is done>They burnt it and got the order wrong
back on the wagon here. overdosed after a bad breakup and 7 months of brutal alcoholism and cocaine addiction. got sober but couldn’t stop eating. now on 30mg vyvanse, 1.5ml trulicity, 1000mg metformin, walking 10k+ steps a day trying to only drink water. i almost lost my life and im trying to be a famous musician, which being sexy and healthy helps a lot. lost 12 pounds from 262 to 250 now. current goal is 220, ultimate goal is like a buff 180. godspeed. doing omad too keto
>>76655847You sound like an old friend I lost contact with, strange. Hope life starts to treat you better.
>>76651546its been a few weeks without sugar for me and i want to fuck a chocolate bar, be strong anons
I had enough room in my macros for 2 servings of oreos instead of 1 today. It was a good day
>>76655843I'm so pissed I ended up throwing it away after 2 slices
>>76655843>>76655949Should have taken pictures, contacted customer service and gotten a refund.
>went from 89 to 74kg>still don't feel like I'm escaping skinnyfat zone>still have a belly, not sure where I'm actually losing fat on my body>catch myself in the mirror>notice the fat creases on my back behind my lovehandles are completely gone feelsgood
Trying to date when you've lost over 200 lbs is a humiliation ritualYou have to build up to showing your old selfSlowly introducing that your body is irrevocably fucked up under your clothes Knowing that they'll never be as attracted to you as they could be if only you were okay from the beginning and didn't have to massively reformEvery former hamplanet I've seen examples of with a partner had that partner when they were giganticI had someone into me for awhile despite it all but they ghosted Why did I have to be born with fatbrain, bros
>>76656165Just date another previous fatty
>>76656165Point of no return strategy.
>>76656165Just get surgeryYou can fix yourself
>>76653787>Fasting? Good but not enough.>To be a REAL fat-burning machine, you MUST be ketogenicBut fasting is keto.
>>76656165Why do you keep using they instead of she
my original 2 day diet break has turned into a weekbut today i put my foot down and am back to the grind
>>76655843make your own pizza next time, its pretty easy and you can control the macros
>>76656268They is an ambiguous pronoun when talking about hypothetical / not well known peopleI didn't want to get into how I'm bisexual, but if you insist
>>76651546Why would inget skinny if american women all have stds and would bear a much stupider child than if i fucked my own cousin?
>>76656312I'll pray for you bro
100 pounds down and it’s dawning on me that this is for life. And that’s depressing me.I’ve lost 101 pounds over the past year. Hardest thing I’ve ever done. I’m proud of the progress I’ve made.I have 104 pounds left to go until I’m a “healthy” weight. 10 pounds after that to reach my goal weight.Mathematically, I know it’s only going to get harder from here. As I get closer to goal, my TDEE will drop. The numbers will slow down, or stall, and I’ll have to keep pushing even when it feels pointless.But even if I reach goal, this phase of my life is never going to end. Not if I don’t want to gain back all 215 pounds.I’m going to spend every evening for the rest of my life talking myself out of junk food.I’m going to spend the rest of my life counting calories.I’m going to spend the rest of my life weighing every morsel that goes into me.I’m going to spend the rest of my life pouring over the menu trying to find the healthy option instead of just ordering what I really want.I’m going to spend the rest of my life fighting the voice in my head that tells me I deserve a treat. Or that just one day off won’t hurt. Or that “won’t it feel nice to feel truly full again? Just once?”The rest of my life wrestling with the damage I’ve done to my body and my psyche that got me to become super morbidly obese in the first place. That monster in my head that can only feel at peace when it’s stuffed with junk food, and spends the rest of its waking hours trying to tempt me back into my old ways.I’m not even halfway to goal but I guess I thought at some point that voice was going to go away. That I could eventually make “normal” eating patterns my new normal. But it’s not and it never will be.And well, that sucks, and I don’t know if I have it in me to win every day for the rest of my life.But I’m gonna try. For today anyway.
>>76656335thats the cool thing, you wont. you can teach your body to prefer nutritious foods. the cravings will dwindle. overeating will be harder because your stomach shrinks. yes its easy to fall back into old habits if you are not careful but it's not suffering.
>>76656332Fuck you too buddy
>>76655824>>76655445>>76653254Thanks kings, I got about 20 lbs left to drop, with plenty of time left for my wedding in April. Feels good man.
>>76656312this nigga sucks dick lmao
>>76652424How many days you run anon I've been wanting to speed up this shit on my end
>>766564113 days of running, and 2 days of lifting on a 1900-2000 calorie budget for the day. (plus a little bit, or a lot depending on running distance).We're up to 14 miles Mondays, and then around 10k on Friday, with a 5k on Wednesday to build speed.
>>76655847Why is a coke addiction a requirement to be a musician?
>>76656312Just be a bottom he won't care.
overate today so tomorrow is a mandatory fasting day :[
All I had today was some steak and asparagus. That Ozempic doing some shit. I feel dead tired though
>>76656335Looking back, losing the weight was the easy part for me.Gaining lean mass is proving to be a considerably slower process. It requires physical effort, not just planning and willpower.And also, I've apparently been sabotaging my lean gainz by not eating enough carbs, out of habits acquired during the weight loss phase. Cool.But yes, you do establish habits with what you're doing. Hopefully good habits. Even if you will need to adjust them a bit once you reach your various goals.
>>76654750imo some coffees are more acidic than others, also I guess it's a matter of being used to it. Just drink black tea and you'll have a similar effect
>>76653787Eat your vegetables you walking cholesterol golem.
>>76655843I'm still seething about that fucking pizza I feel like I wasted an entire day's worth of progress for some absolute dogshit food that I disliked. The disappointment makes it so much worse too, it should've been great. I'm trying to make it up by drinking a protein shake with two scoops of powder and fasting the rest of the day.
>>76654011Post pics so people can help you
Is junkfood addiction real? I always have chips, ice cream, donuts, and other bullshit in the house but I have only ever had extra beef or chicken on days where I’ve fucked up and overeaten.
>>76656335I can relate. Prediabetes sucks but I “earned” it. >But I’m gonna try. For today anyway.That’s what matters.
>hospitalized for one week>4kg downimagine not IVmaxxing in current year
>>76656612that's what you get for relying on fast food garbage, don't you have local "artisanal" pizza restaurants in Ameristan?Let this be a lesson, maybe next time you'll crave some higher quality food and your body will thank you
>>76656638You lose a ton of lean mass because you're literally immobile in a bed
Ive tried so many new foods this past couple of weeks. One surprising find is zucchini. Love baking this stuff and eating, hardly any cals. Eat your zucchini anons.
>>76654259I tried changing my diet to all whole foods, while probably healthier I think more conventional weight loss methods suit me better. Ive started eating cereal again to help offset the extra protein Ive been eating. Whilst not traditionally accepted as heatlthy, it makes me feel lighter. Being all backed up on high protein foods is almost a worst feeling that being fat. I just track my cals and eat whatever fits my macros.
>>76656420I want to start running, keep saying I will start when I get to maybe 220lbs. currently like 240, perhaps it wouldnt hurt to start running on a grass field. Just dont want to fuck up knees, not a youngin anymore.
>>76656722Just wait until you try zoodles. They actually have the texture of real noodles. Amazing.
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>>76656739>zoodlesWas thinking of making some sort of zucchini lasagna, maybe a zucchini bolognaise might even work too. Thanks
>>76656746>101kgI feel like I am going to witness sub 100 this weekend, youre doing great anon.
>>76656746Overall Progress:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/100wR8eSjgID2U9K4qSInTYTaZXxJwOxB-IrfGBnWTqI/edit?gid=0#gid=0Motivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mArKPFXdiiI
>>76656739I want to try this shit so badly now, having ramen on keto would be incredible but I hate cooking
>>76656756I want to make it sub 100 for Friday weekly log.
Went gym Monday, today can bend arms. Based i guess, that means its working. Also went down 1 notch on belt. Its been a good week so far.
>>76655820Lmao peak delusion you fat shit
>>76656770Be nise
>>76656739That's just a blatant lie. They absolutely do not have the texture of any real noodle ever.
>>76651546Lets see whos fat when i beat the shit out of you cmere you fuck i wrestle and i box
How do you tolerate zucchini? I will eat any vegetable but that slop
>>76656841Taste is subjective. Eat what you like.
>>76656335Way to go anon. Repetition and habit are powerful and eventually define who you are, so you will be comfortable with them. I can't even think of myself without weightlifting, basic caloric understanding of foods in my life now unlike 10 years ago. This will be your new habit and you will be used to it.
>>76652526Creatine also added 5 pounds of water into your muscles so you lost 5 pounds more in total than you thought.
>>76656852Simply not true
>>76656606I love veggies, but nuts are far better keto strategic food than the empty green fibers during your weight loss, rich in fiber and unsaturated fat.>t. Currently 20% bf, pushing to sub 15%
It turns out I am still mentally ill after all
>>76656898Yeah, we could tell.
>>76655367Maybe if it's an office bullshit job.
6 eggs and double scoop protein shake a day dietsurely that should be enough to push me below 18% bf
>>76656762try konjac
Do I actually have to count kcal from carrots and beets and such, I eat like 2 pounds a day. Do they even work? Will kcal from that stuff go in my muscle?
>>76657104Beets are very sugary. A large carrot is like 30 calories. You should track the calories from these foods. They will add up if you're eating pounds as you say.
>>76657113Ye but if I say make a smoothie postworkout. Does the resultant juice get digested fast and feeds my muscle and stops all that post workout catabolism?
>>76657116You want protein post-workout, not fibrous carbs.
>>76657124You actually want carbs post workout. Protein will just be converted into glucose in the liver. Now I guess the juice will just flow outta stomach into intestine and get absorbed.
I see it's time for carbs vs none carbs shilling again
>>76657129>You actually want carbs post workout.thanks for the tip, brb pouring out my protein smoothie and blending up an oreo milkshake
>>76657162Oreo is fat. Don't.Whey is fine when you need glucose, it will be converted into glucose by the liver very quickly because it gets digested fast and the aminos hit blood all at the same time and muscle can't utilize that amount and they hang out in bloodstream and liver converts a large portion to glucose on each pass.Conversely if you want aminos to NOT convert to glucose, you need the slowest protein. Meat or cottage cheese or idk lumpy onions patties. Beans?
>>76656612>fat demon: "anon, have a cheat meal!">you have a cheat meal>it doesn't taste as good as you thought it would>makes you feel sweaty and tired afterward>gives you a stomach ache later>bowels pass it as toxic diarrhea>you're never gonna fall for fat demon's tricks again>next week: "anon, have a cheat meal!"
I haven't lost any weight this week, but have been in a deficit the whole time.
>>76657206phantom calories are passing into your gullet while you sleep
>>76651546Why can't you just get a bulk of your calories from butter on keto?
>>76657206>Water retention>Huge shit incoming>Muscle growth>You undercount your calorie intake>You overcount your calorie burn.
>>76657240you can? I wouldn't want to though
Man creatine makes me have the nastiest most explosive shits ever
>>76657257just spread it out in smaller doses
>>76651773Monjouro is Tirpizade.Reta isn't available medically yet, only UGL
>>76656770Delusional? what about what I typed is delusional? Do you want to see a video of me benching 225 for 15 reps?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/b00YsVL1cVQ5 plate deadlifthttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/b00YsVL1cVQ315 benchhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/3ObtaeWV6SkYes I know I am fat, I am down 25 lbs so far from these videos. Still have a way to go
>>76657184Almost all of the protein over 50g you take will be glucose anyway, and the time doesn't really matter either.>You actually want carbs post workoutCome on now. The main purpose of carbs is to boost your glucose level in your body, pumping up your energy level to fully exert high-intensity weightlifting even in a bulk-up scenario, that's the only main purpose of it. You can eat mainly non-carbs in the even bulking phase for that reason, except for pre workout boost. Dietary fat aversion is also nonsensical, newbie issue
>>76657250why not
>>76656770stop being a tranny
>>76657259it's hard to spread out your explosive shits throughout the day, and I'd rather just have one or two big ones anyway
>>76657341the guy you are replying to is some brown kid or something, you know the type of people who ironically say things like "bro thinks his....". yeah.
I did 20k steps
>8:00 PM, getting ready for bed>only ate 600 calories that day (flaming hot cheetos + Japanese Oden)>Not even that hungry but I still have another 900 calories left in daily calorie budget>Heat up a big bowl of pasta and homemade bolognese sauce>Looks and smells and taste delicious, >Finish eating, sit down to bask in the glow>Feel like a complete and utter failureI should have just waited until tomorrow... Can't believe I did this to myself.
>>76657421well, do better tomorrow
>>76657400i have autism and like weightlifting
>>76656769CongratsI've been using ratcheting belts for years. I guess I need to start wearing a normal one so I can know this feel
>>76657206Sounds like you poor anon fell for the CICO scam like many others. You must have eaten carbs, even sugary ones, thinking "This is a smart and life-friendly weight loss program," but whenever your insulin level spikes because of your carb intake, your fat-burning process immediately stops, and your body slows your metabolism, thus the genius 'caloric calculation' plan doesn't work anymore. Just get rid of carbs as much as possible from your meal, and if you want the fastest and most efficient way, fast it off with a ketogenic diet. Short-term fasting doesn't make you lose muscle like some BS gurus say, as long as you keep lifting weights.
>>76657421Yeah you probably should have just went to bed and had a low calorie day, but if it fit your macros it fit your macros, at worst it sounds like you maintained and only lost a day
>>76654523Yeah. Last time I got two small pizzas, lasted me three days. Good times, still lost weight that week.I have a friend who also lost a lot of weight on a diet of exclusively pizza (and depression), he'd just have one per week and eat nothing else.
>>76657440yeah i fasted for 5 days last month and my strength did not go down at all after 2 days of eating at a slight deficit
>>76654523if he could do that he wouldn't have to be here. I would binge after my lifting sessions "bulking" and my lifts went up but so did my fat mass.to get around it I just go to the grocery store daily after work. It is on the way and only takes like 15 minutes. Not much food at home.At my current level could not be a homesteader bc i would eat all my rations at once
>>76657420I will go out for another 10k later
>>76657399just do starting shits 5x5, all you need is a butt plug
scared of leg day today bros. shit is painful but we gotta do it
>>76657341Yeah peak delusional ngmi
Started 288 2019. Got down to 190 again. Had some bad advice about bulking to get muscle and was listening to stupidity and ramped up to 240 again. But we are 218ish this week. 1800 cal a day right now, targeting 160-200g protein. I’m 6’4. Ultimately goal is to recomp to 210-220 optimally at like 12%bf. Shooting for the moon a bit but hey. On 12 week cut that finishes end of October. Then will do maintenance about 8 weeks. Doing 5 day PPL A/B split. 90 minutes. With some morning cardio sessions occasionally. Work a physical job so endless cardio is just out of the question. Except the pool of course kek
Next time you want to eat garbage remember this is who youre turning yourself into
Fatty ContestNapoli86.7kgHuel drunk, run complete, timer reset, scale down - course corrected. Going for a walk to complete my rings then shower and slacking off for the rest of the day. Really don't want to fuck up any more this week but when that nausea hits im done for.
>>76657198If you get "toxic diarrhea" after 2 slices of pizza you should see a doctor asap
>>76657554if I am delusional than my illusions will perceive me having already made it
and just to be clear; the "weekly report" view is fucked for everyone, not just me? thanks
>>76657666Some context would be lovely
>>76651546>Drink more water.Bad advice, if you drink more than necessary you'll get dehydrated and crave food to get back your electrolytes.When I'm bulking and want to have huge meals I drink a shitload of water beforehand because it makes you very hungry a few hours later
>>76657672dunno how much clear i can be really, i've tried ctrl+f5 a couple of times, no dice.
>>76657666Yes its borken
>>76657677Don't drink a shitload of water at once then, just drink more water in generalRetard stfu and stop giving people advice
>>76657666>>76657682its weird because this is one of the only things now that isnt fucking jammed packed with ads or requires a sign in or constantly pesters you for donations, yet oddly.. i wouldn't mind donating like ten bucks to keep it running. I do like it a lot, we got a good thing going here.
>>76657679Am I supposed to automatically know what this is
>>76657677>Bad advice, if you drink more than necessary you'll get dehydrated and crave food to get back your electrolytes.That's not a thing
>>76657694but... like why do you even answer if you're this clueless?! If someone asks a question about a particular car that you know nothing about, do you demand people in that discussion to explain themselves until you understand it so you can answer it? jesus christ some faggots are truly beyond help. Disregard, anon, you're dismissed, as you were.
>>76657702So are you going to answer the question or
>>76657707I'm not him but I hope you just die in a horrible death, I wish curses upon you faggot
>>76657709I thought I was dismissed
>>76657707No, i'm not going to tell you! You must be taught a lesson here, you don't insert yourself where you don't belong and expect to be spoonfed to be in the loop. self insert into your mother. NGMI
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>>76657714>>76657710
>>76657707it's literally the first link in the OP, lurk more or begone
To those of you who've dieted down and gained weight back/battled with their weight - what's the most amount of weight lmyouve ever lost in one go and what helped you accomplish that?
>>76657707kill yourself
>>76657818Sorry you're so upset
>>76656612how did it set you a whole day back if you only ate 2 slices?
267.8lbs March 23rd215.5lbs September 24th
I love losing weight when I have a cold but hate that it's all basically water weight.
>>76657838Forgot hat
>>76657833He restricted his food intake so he could eat a whole pizza. He feels like he wasted the effort.
>>76657884if he is losing weight, its good, less calories in the 2 preparation days and not eating the full pizza = more weight loss
>>76657894That wasn't the point of my post or why he feels disappointed.
>>76657448Do not bulk like Lee priest if you aren’t sub 10%. Go 500 under maint for cut in 12 week cycles with at minimum 6 week raw maint then cut again if need to. When you do “bulk” it’s no more than 200-250calories over maintenance. Unless you are benching 405, you’re not gonna do much more than that in a day.
>>76657689>just drink more water in generalSame result. You don't need more, drink when you're thirsty.>>76657695Yes it is.Bunch of fat retarded pigs in this general.
>>76657585I want to play with your tummy
>>76657905Yeah its not but OK you do you man
I haven't worked out in a week, but right now I will.WAGMI
What weight lifting program are you doing?
>>76657116>Does the resultant juice get digested fast and feeds my muscle and stops all that post workout catabolism?this is not a thingthe only time when protein timing is irrelevant is if you train fasted (8-10h+) then you need some right after>>76657129>Protein will just be converted into glucose in the liver.after it's used in important things like the brain and muscle repair
>>76657948No nuns = shit thread.
>>76657981i have to agree yeah
>>76657421next time dont waste your calorie budget on cheetos and you might not crave real food
Haven't posted here in a while. >6'1>weigh 400lbs in June of last year>do keto for a month>start incorporating a bit of walking, but stomach would feel like it was burning>keto flu gets so bad I don't eat for days and just the thought of food would make me nauseous >quit keto, stick to exercise and start counting calories>today, weigh in at 231lbs>weight loss slowed due to focusing more on weights, but have define arms and went from not even being able to be in a push-up position, to doing 100 dailyI'm in the final stretch now. plateau'd between 235 and 245 the last couple of months, but am losing weight again. Loose skin is not THAT bad from what I've seen, just under my arms but the muscle had tightened it, and I thought my gut was bad but it's been shrinking a lot and doesn't hang. Might have lucked out.
Tirz is weird because it completely takes away the physical desire for food without taking away the mental desire for the concept of foodHonestly how the fuck am I supposed to handle bipolar crashouts without takeoutI haven’t been physically able to cry since like 2014 so I can’t do thatAssaulting random people on the street is illegalGuh
>>76657998well done lad
Getting your form ready for a deadlift is like an exercise all its own.
>>76658040not reallyespecially if you're not that strongit just takes practice to get faster
>>76658032Thanks. Got injured like two weeks ago, though that would spiral out of control and was paranoid all the week and a half it took to get better that I would gain weight back, but I managed to lose by cutting down on calories. Going strong and will keep at it, thanks. Just wish I had taken more pictures before starting, I was rarely photographed due to being ashamed of being so big.
>>76657998how bad are the stretchmarks an loose skin at 230
>wake up at 2:30 AM feeling hungry as hell>power through it and stay in bed, eventually fades but only able to go back to sleep a half hour to an hour later>didn't eat late, finished around 6:30 pm and slept shortly after 11, 8 hour gap from meal>dinner consisted of two eggs, half a small potato, a large carrot and barley/green lentil mix for a calorie total barely over 500>day's calories amounted to 1772>did more cardio/walking than usual>159 pounds yesterday, 159 todayThis has happened before, but it's rare. I eat at a deficit nearly every day and I'm wondering what's up since this wasn't even on a day with a particularly steep calorie cut. It could just be a matter of not eating enough to keep up with my physical habits and having it catch up to me, but it has me on edge today for some reason
>>76657928Going to a furmeet and seeing how many furries are fat disgusting blobs has motivated me to lose weight like no other.
>>76657907I just don’t have a faceless front photo atm. But yeah, I obviously adipose there as well, and no, go sit in the corner now.
>>76658111Have you considered one egg with egg whites for more filling volume bub?
>>76658111>159lbsIf you aren't a woman or midget then you should be gaining weight and muscle
>>76658111anon waking up in the night is not good, your body should never be signalling hunger like that if your caloric intake is a modest but steady deficit, what youre experiencing is more of 1200kcal hunger and it doesnt seem normal. if this happens again consider either melatonin, a change in diet, or making the deficit more modest
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>>76657457I did 33k steps today.
>>76658175Baaaaaaased
>>76658209tyb anon
I think I have a binge eating disorder. Always manage to go out of my way to purchase snacks when I am not home. Always seem to tear through the cupboards as soon as I am home from work. Always seem to be fighting the idea of what I am doing in the moment, yet I never win. I know that I have total control over my own actions yet I can't seem to resist any type of urge. Any other anons here that can't seem to fight making the easy decision at every crossroad?
I am posting this here too because people in this general tend to be really helpful.So after losing around 26 kg (from 110 kg to 84 kg), I’ve realized that getting a gym membership now actually makes sense. I’m confident it won’t go to waste. Where I live, it costs about 200-something euros for a full year at a respectable gym, which seems like a solid investment.My main goal is to lose more weight, and I understand that it’s generally not realistic to gain muscle while cutting weight. So my question is: What should my workouts look like aside from cardio? Should I incorporate light weights, or something else?For context, I don’t really know much about exercise. All of the weight I’ve lost so far has been through CICO (calories in, calories out) and walking my dog a lot every day. Any advice would be appreciated.
>>76658340Absolutely no reason not to lift weights. If you're new to lifting then any beginner program under the sun will work fine for you, so long as you're consistent. Losing 26kg through diet alone is a good achievement, how long did it take? What is your goal weight?
>>76658362I've been on and off this diet for about five and a half months. I took some pretty extreme measures at times, like not eating at all on certain days and becoming really obsessive about food and tracking everything.As for my goal physique, as cliché as it might sound, it's the Brad Pitt Fight Club look. So I'm aiming for around 70kg or a bit less, since I'm a bit shorter than 180 cm, sitting at about 176 cm. I'd like to get down to around 6–7% body fat to get that lean and defined look. Could you recommend a good beginner program? I honestly don’t know anything about lifting weights and have no idea where to start.
>>76658393As much of a meme as it may be, Starting Strength focuses on squat, bench, deadlift, row, and overhead press. Any good beginner routine would see you focus on these compound movements anyways. As far as the fight club physique goes, it wouldn't take much lifting at 70kg to look like that. Once you start lifting you'll pick up on other stuff as you go.
>>76658465Isn't it hard to build muscle while losing weight though? Wouldn't it make more sense to just focus on getting down to 70 kg first, then start lifting?I’ve heard that you need to be in a caloric surplus to see any type of progress.
>still needs to drop down to 136lbs...it will come...
Do your steps and migrate>>76658514>>76658514>>76658514>>76658514
>>76658340you need to be lifting heavy ass weight, progressive overload 3 sets to failure aiming for the hypertrophy range (8-16). you need to hit all major body groups at least two times a week each. pick a plan and stick to it. I like 3x a week full body or upper-lower split because they are easy splits, but it doesnt matter
>>76658524Would you care enough as to explaining this using retard terms?
>>76658531https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i5jGU9wn2M
>>76656796You must have cooked them wrong then my relative made them and I was convinced they used 50% real noodles.
>>76651546We're at around 1100 kcal max, omad, cutting hard til I reach 160 (last measure 184 but I have no scale access til Saturday lol, started at 194)I will then clean bulk back to 180 while lifting 4x weekly. Nothing is going to stop me this time. 30/5'10
>>76651546Started as a 230 lbs fatass. Down to 194 in 4 months. I don't see why you faggots need a support group; this shit is easy. Literally dont lift a finger (if it's connected to a fork), succeed.
