>Who is /fat/ for?For aerobic activity anons working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread:>>76651546
SW: 370lbCW: 339.45 weeks in, happy with the progress
>>76658538Ngmi
>>7665853830lb in 5 weeksvery good stuff
>171lbs at 5'10I've lost over 90 pounds in the last two years, but I have a slight pooch on my stomach. Does that go away in about 3 years or so?
>>76658538based wagmi except 76658546>>76658531>you need to be lifting heavy ass weightself-explanatory>progressive overload lifting more weight over time (more sets, more repetitions per set, bigger number of kg). this is important because it forces the muscles to tear and regrow>3 setseach time you pick up the weight and lift it until you can no more is a set. a set consists of reps, or repetitions. for example, if I do 10 reps, then rest, then 9 reps, then rest, then 8 reps, that is three sets. >to failure to muscular failure - to lift until you can lift no more. think popeye, he stands all he can stands and he can stands no more. >aiming for the hypertrophy range (8-16). hypertrophy is muscular growth. 8 to 16 reps per set is the ideal range for muscular growth. >you need to hit all major body groups at least two times a week each. self-explanatory>pick a plan and stick to it. thought to be self-explanatory but if you need this explained you can always ask a personal trainer. whatever plan you do, hit all major groups 2-3 times a week and take enough rest in between. do not work out the same muscle group on consecutive days, and if the muscle aches in the joint/tendon that's a bad muscle pain.>I like 3x a week full bodya full body workout means doing all the major muscle groups of the body in the workout. legs, arms, back, chest, biceps, triceps, abs, lower back, literally work out the full body. >upper-lower split in an upper-lower split you alternate between working out the upper body and the lower body - the advantage is that your lower body rests on days your upper body works out and vice versa>because they are easy splitseasy to execute; simple. as discussed these workout plans are pretty much self explanatory>but it doesnt matterit doesn't matter because you should prioritize just getting started over getting muh perfect plan, any plan you do is better than the perfect plan you don't do.
>>76658571It goes away once you stop being a fat shit
>>76658571Not likely, just get surgery my dude, it might shrink a little bit more but excess skin is basically permanent
>>76658584I was afraid of that... My heaviest was 262lbs and I'm still paying for it. A fitting punishment and warning for others, I suppose. DON'T GET FAT, BROS.
>>76658514i suck at the math's of calories, just about how much calories are in the average chicken leg quarter? (i know this is a stupid question)
>>76658538that's great progress, good shit bro.i remember i lost 97 pounds over about a less than 2 year period (with some rebounds). I've gained it all back like a retard in the last few years. starting my diet again feels strangely easy now.
so hungry...
down 22 lbs due to major lifestyle changes over past month and half>started moving a lot more at work due to retard coworker getting his ass fired which improved my mood enough for a few weeks to kickstart subsequent things>stopped drinking on Wednesday nights (would usually have 4 drinks or so)>stopped fucking around and started consistent cardio at work gym 3/week, started targeting 10 miles/week and now up to 20/week on top of regular work outs on other days and at home>stuck to OMAD all but one week day>already don't drink anything but water, tea and boozekeep at it some day it'll just click for no reason at all
Gonna do a 3.5 mile walk even though I’m completely wiped. Give me your energy fatties
i know lovehandles can be genetic and spot reduction isn't real, but isn't there a hormone aspect to it? i have pretty big lovehandles even for my size and it seems like no matter how much i lose, they won't shrink
>>76658514What's you guys' cholesterol levels? I found out mine is 5mmol (borderline)and I'm pretty upset, especially considering I'm 21 and my BMI is 20.
>>76658626i recommend one of those adjustable standing desks for home, so you can get some standing time in you burn twice as many calories standing than sitting, and still be able to let it down to sit. every calorie counts
>>76658636standing doesn't burn more calories than sittingyour knees are locked out, all the weight is being held by your skeleton
>>76658667>standing doesn't burn more calories than sittingimagine saying this unironically, in the face of mountains upon mountains of evidence of the contrary - evidence you can demonstrate yourself with a smartwatch! THIS is why you corroborate dogshit claims you hear on mongolian basket weaving forums.
My loose skin is making me anorexic. It doesn't look like loose skin, just fat. On top of this. I have lost weight from 120kg to 85kg, gained it back again twice. Now I'm down again, but I didn't even try. I can barely eat the same amounts I did back in the day and I'm losing weight at an alarming rate. I don't know if I'm blessed or cursed.
>>76658680https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-truth-behind-standing-desks-2016092310264 They fitted 74 healthy people with masks that measured oxygen consumption as a reflection of how many calories they burned while doing computer work, watching TV, standing, or walking on a treadmill. Here's what they found: While sitting, study subjects burned 80 calories/hour — about the same as typing or watching TV While standing, the number of calories burned was only slightly higher than while sitting — about 88 calories/hourBasically nothing, you are a little niggerfaggot and I'm right
>got my braces on>no pain or ulcers but teeth are really tender>can't really eat anything unless it's soup or yogurt>no will to eat anything that isn't the aboveWe turbo dieting now
Is there any actual science backed methods to aiding with loose skin, or is it mostly just genetics, age and how quickly you lose the weight?
>>76658618Iktf..Water, fiber, higher protein ratio are what help me.
Post it.
>>76658704The science backed method is cutting it off and stitching you back togetherNo real science can be done about what you're talking aboutHow would you get control groups?? Its hard to make people lose alot of weight to begin with
>>76658704Yes. If you lose slower, it helps a tiny bit, but it's just a matter of cutting it off in the end.
I’ve been walking over 10k steps a day lately pairing that with at least two fasts a week are the fasts too much? I’m a bit worried I’m going to lose all my muscle should pair the fasts with lifting?
663 calories with 63 grams of protein for today, im taking the conicidence of the matching numbers as a sign im doing good : ]
>>76658720You will not lose all your muscle, your body is not that stupidIts always good to do exercise though, doesn't have to be lifting specifically
>>76658667retard alert
where are the nuns?no nuns = no fatloss
>>76658696every calorie matters you fatass
>>76658929Wtf
>>76658929i wish every anon in these threads would post webms of their tummies
i made some pork belly today, so i wanted to check if you guys agree with my logic when it comes to counting calories hereso i cut off the skin before frying and raw weight was 186g and after frying it dropped to 76gthen i measured the rendered fat, about 47ml came out (3×15ml cups full + leftovers), but i didn’t add any oil, just the pork itselfdo i count the calories based on raw weight (~540kcal) or do i subtract the rendered fat (~420kcal)?ended up logging it as ~250kcal but idk if that’s ok or not
>>76658962>counting cooked weightLmao
Down to 218. Only 53 more to go >this will take forever
>>76658929Sick moves
>>76658974as you can see, i have no idea what i'm doing, but that meat did leave shit ton of fat, so that's why i subtracted it
>>76658962You subtract the oil sureAlso 47ml of fat is more like 390 caloriesThe issue is that you dont actually know the pre-cooked calorie countAnd its really hard to find out
>>76658982Count it raw and count it all.
>>76658633I did my walk in 53 minutes No thanks to any of you encouraging me mind you.
>>76659002gj
>>76659002Cringe
>>76658119>Anon tries to become a pack leader
>>76658990>The issue is that you dont actually know the pre-cooked calorie count And its really hard to find outYeah, that makes sense, that is why i made that approximation, which is completely wrong
What is a reasonable weight to stop at? I am medically 'at a healthy BMI' but I would like to go lower. I guess not to the point I am medically underweight, but seems going close to there would be good, maybe? I don't know. Any thoughts here?
>>76659062I would just compare it to similar foodhttps://fdc.nal.usda.gov/food-details/167914/nutrientsBaked bacon, has likely the fat drained, or most of itSeems comparable
>>76659105Nice, thanks anon
>>76659101whats ur current height, weight and bmi?
>>766591105'11 ~150 lbs 20.9, down from roughly 200 pounds, was looking to get to maybe 140 or 135, just to do it I suppose
Started at roughly 345, I was too ashamed to weigh myself. Height of 5'9".First official weigh in was at 320.After 2 years of ozempic I just reached under 200.I've never felt weaker I lost a ton of muscle but I'm also hotter than ever and can now see my own cock.
>>76659146...Post bod
Want to lose fat? >Go outside and touch grass.https://open.substack.com/pub/romanshapoval/p/lightfood?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=58me4k
>>76658538Is it even physically possible? You'd have to be on an average 3000 calorie daily deficit, and that'd need to account for your metabolism freaking out over it. Are you on a zero calorie diet? Are you spending your days on a treadmill drinking only water?That seems dangerous anon, and I kinda hope you're being funny, for your sake.
>hit a plateau>respond by not eating at all for a day>down 1.5kg on the scaleMan, that was satisfying.
>>76659146>two years of ozempicRip
>>76658704i read many accounts of people's loose skin improving greatly over time and i've had personal experience with it as well. the problem is that it takes a long time- a year or more before it starts to shrink down. your skin is an organ and it's very elastic. you body may very well reabsorb much of the 'extra' skin given a long enough timeline. surgery is for impatient people. have you considered that there may be health consequences to removing a bunch of skin? your body is capable of miraculous feats. give it a chance to heal naturally before you go under the knife. if you still feel like you are fat then maybe you are fat. in my experience 'loose skin' sure seems to have a lot of fat clinging to it.
>>76659146>2 years to lose 100lazy lmao
how do u guys avoid sweating when working out?i can’t stand smelling like garbage and feeling moist all over
anyone have opinions on which gym to join between Crunch fitness vs. Eos?For reference only other gym I've paid for is planet fitness and it just felt like the girliest shit ever.
>>76659514Regular Joe's
>>76658514I complained about the nuns before but they'd be better than this
Calorie counting feels too easy. I’m losing weight and high balling all my food estimates but I don’t feel hungry all the time. I feel fine. Like I must be doing something wrong or has the solution to weight loss been setting up a an excel spreadsheet and the rest of the world genuinely too retarded to see it.
>>76659550>t. dieting for two weeks
>>76658634I don't have an answer but I'm dealing with the same thing. I'm now 2 kg from my goal weight, and I look thin everywhere else. My ribs stick out grotesquely when I'm lying on my back. But I still have the love handles and a big fat gut.
>>76659557I lost ten kilos at the start of the year through obsession and this seems much easier than that.
I WILL get down to Obese Class I this year.
>>76659609I believe in you anon
I might legit reach the big 300 by the end of the month. Fuck. We’re going to make it bros.
SW: 281 lbsCW: 255 lbsI honestly am starting to find it difficult to eat the amount of calories just to get to my bmr. Im lifting too. Is this an issue? I dont feel like I am starving at any point though. Also im feeling confident. I know im fat, but should I try meeting people and girls right now?
>>76659114Isnt that skinny for 5 11?
>>76659557NTA but I have been doing the same for 3 months and the weight keeps melting off me
>>76659635Thanks Anon. Ideally I'd be out of obesity altogether by the end of the year, but that feels just a little out of reach.
>>76659675How the helll are u losing so fast?
>>76659548You get everything you asked for and none of what you wanted.
>>76659732Just go on walks, anon. 4 to 6 miles and eat less than a thousand calories. And ignore the doubters
i got ravenously hungry after leg day today
>>76658514'cado on the 'log
>>76659548that's pretty much the objective of controlled opposition. they will give you an alternative so awful that you beg for what you were complaining about initially but watch how fast you get cancelled if you try to make a thread yourself. that's the difference between unpaid (organic) 4channers and the paid glow op teams we've got running things now. unpaid can never compete with paid. if you are unemployed and have infinite time you can come close though. add some bots and jeets to the equation and the last remaining forum with free speech on the internet is hopelessly compromised and spammed to oblivion. it's not just us. it's happening on all the boards.
Update to my bolognese post last thread. I woke up at 4:30 AM with a piercing pain in my stomach approx 3 cm above my belly button. I ran to the bathroom just in time for the vomit to fly out of my mouth and into the bathtub. Retched up the entirety of the pasta and pasta sauce (except the meat portion of the sauce, that was nowhere to be found) as well as all of the konjac noodles that I had partaken of. The pain actually got worse after vomiting and I spent 5 hours in the bathroom alternating between shitting, vomiting, and crying until I was left with nothing.My best guest is that the large amount of insoluble fiber from the konjac in the oden has destroyed my intestines and caused a temporary blockage which prevented the calorie heavy pasta from being digested. Feeling much better now as long as I don't move my upper body and had to take the day off work.This morning I am officially below 200 lbs. Thank you /fit/! WAGMI!
I had to switch to a diet low in purines because of gout. Had only sub 900 kcal yesterday.
>>76659822It's hard to imagine a worse image OP could've used...I hope he doesn't take that as a challenge to do an even worse job next time
>>76659911I did take it as a challenge
>want to lose weight so ppl will like me>sad cause loneliness & having 0 friends >eat when sad >progress ruined>cycle starts over I don't think theres any helping me
>>76659840>4 to 6 miles and eat less than a thousand calories.Recipe for insane rate of muscle loss4+ lbs a week is not necessarily a good thing
>>76659984I noticed watching a lot of my 600lb life the people who had a lot of family and wives and friends were usually the ones that made it. The ones who lived alone almost always failed. I guess this isn't very motivating sorry, I'm in the same boat. That's why this place is nice, gives even us lonely people someone to talk to and help motivate us. Don't give up friend, we can still make it even if we have to work a little harder.
>day 3 without the caffeinated j*w>the brainfog is real, can be managed with more water intake>wake up feeling horrible>realize i'm just dehydrated>no longer craving any of itconsidering i've been mainly drinking it as my primary source of hydration for most of my life im surprised its been this easy
Fatty ContestFastFattyFast94kg9kg to my goal weight, also I think Im exactly at 25bmi right now, so "yay!"
>>76659984You need to start hating your body far FAR more. Hate your current body with so much passion it would seem concerning to other people.Thats how I lost the majority of my weight. I was on the same boat, no friends, no woman, shitty job, living with my grandma. A total fucking fat disgusting obese loser. I decided that I hate the fat around me so fucking much that it forced me to lose the weight.
After long deliberations (20 minutes scrolling tiktok while shitting followed by 10 minutes posing in the mirror) I have decided I will be upping my egg intake to 6 eggs a day, 4 MINIMUM.Never skip egg day.
new goal, starting today155lbs
>>76659878>konjacI tried this stuff once before reading about a lady that blocked up her intestines by not hydrating these things properly first. Scared me off them to be honest. I can see their allure though.
>>76659878People do shit like this instead of moving around and having a sensible diet. How about not eating undigestible matter and instead having a small portion of bolognese with a large side of roast veg? What the fuck
>>76659984>>76660028I live alone and I've dropped 27kgs over the last year while also gaining muscle. You can do it bros, it's just consistancy and realising when you are eating because you're bored or sad instead of hungry, and doing something else instead. We aren't dogs who automatically drool because the bell rings, we're human beings with control over ourselves.
>>76660128>You need to start hating your body far FAR more. Hate your current body with so much passion it would seem concerning to other people.this desuhatred for how disgusting you are is an extremely strong motivatoryeah, being hungry sucks, but being a fucking fatass sucks way more
meow i'm actually starting to see some progress and that makes me so happy! not a lot but i went from 93 to 90+-.5 kgs. gotta continue this and lock in now.
Fatty Contestmanletting67.5kg164cm
The Sugar detox migraines I think have finally passed. Now I deal with other parts of my diet.
>>76660129Looks good. Going to make some meatballs soon. Usually I just make smash patties out of my ground beef, but today I try something different. Will mix in 4 eggs and some seasonings. Planning to cook in airfryer, unsure how this will work, but cant see why it wouldnt.
Starting to think the meme about O calories days being easier than sub 1OOO calorie days is true
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 101.45 kgOverall progress:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/100wR8eSjgID2U9K4qSInTYTaZXxJwOxB-IrfGBnWTqI/edit?gid=0#gid=0Motivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAbilojz4VAI dearly hope a massive ass python is due today.
>>76659557I have had the same experience after starting calorie tracking, now 3 months into it and almost at GW. Still don't know what a 'craving' is.I think there's basically two differing etiologies of fatties, those fat through neglect or skill issue (i.e people who literally don't know how to eat well due to shit upbringing), and the mentally ill obsessive eaters, and different things work better or worse for each category.
>>76658696If a drug study was done on only 75 people and then they pushed the drug out to market and said it was totally safe, you would never take that drug or trust that drug company ever.
>>76658960We get it bro, you're gay.
>>76659685Isn't skinny the goal?
>>76660447shut up and post tummy
>>76659675BASED YOU GOT THIS
>>76659878I say this every single thread and nobody ever listens to me. There have been legit medical cases of blockages being caused by these things. They're entirely indigestible. And I mean entirely. I'm not talking about like when you eat corn and the starch inside gets digested, but the hulls are left over in your feces. Zero percent of the noodles are digestible. If you don't have a proper digestive system due to years of being obese or in relatively poor health, there's a high risk you're going to hurt yourselves with them. Don't fall for the nearly zero calorie meme. Just try and load up on rice to cauliflower or zucchini noodles instead.
>>76660285I can't speak for others, but basically once I've put food inside my body for the day I'm hungry (or will be hungry within 30 minutes regardless of meal size) until I wake up the next day, but conversely if I do nothing but drink tea and coffee I will never get hungry. I might be better suited to doing 48 hour fasts with interspersed with 4,000 calories in between than a regular daily calorie restriction.
>>76660108Gj anon
>>76658514What better way to start a cold autumn day than with a warm cup of low calorie hot chocolate?Have a good day anons.
I put the sweets in my trolley again
>>76660277Glad to hear you're feeling better. It's an unpleasant but necessary step.
>>76660529Take them out
no matter how skinny I get or how much muscle I build, I will always be a 5'7 manlet
>>76660541Short guys are cute
>>76660547gayfag pls go
>>76660550short guys are still cuteplus im trans anyways so its not gay
>>76660547>>76660552this was the worst shit I could've heard, thank you now I want to kms even more
>>76660554>complains about being short>complains about being appreciated despite being shorto_O ?
>>76660556do you know how when women say "ugh i'm so lonely!!!!" what they really mean is that they aren't getting attention from chad?yeah it's like the same thing but the opposite here, I want to get attention from everyone except chad (and by chad I mean homosexuals, transgenders, and transgender homosexuals)
>>76660563:[
Loosing fat is just that easy just stop eating wtf Been few weeks since I started eating less and I'm starting to have slightly visible abs with good lighting Feelsgoodman
>>76660465Yeah it’s nutritionally the same as shredding a 2x4, dumping a bottle of bbq sauce on it and eating that. Don’t eat that stuff. It isn’t food.
>>76660571I don't need you to yes man my posts.
>>76660572Damn your deficit might be too high
>>76660577Sorry you're so upset.
Is the last stretch before you hit your goal really that drastic of a change? Made a weightloss plan with my doc with a goal of 170 lbs from 250. I'm just under 200 now and have lost a really noticeable amount of weight, but what's left is like 90% concentrated in my midsection. I just can't imagine it'll all be gone in another 29 lbs and am thinking I'll probably need to lose another 10+ after that to be rid of it.
>>76660588Weight loss and Weight redistribution rarely coincide. You will reach your goal weight long before your body looks like your goal weight. I went down to 70 KG from 100 KG and looked like I was perpetually stuck at 80 KG for 4 months afterwards, coworkers and friends commented that I had sunken cheeks but still had my belly fat. I think it was around month 6 of maintaining 70 KG that I took off my shirt and actually felt my new weight. Sorry, I know it's disappointing but once you get there your objective changes from "Lose weight" to "Survive" but if you make it past that I promise you you'll see some amazing physical changes.
>>76660588Well yeah, the lower body fat % you have the more noticeable the changes pound per pound are. When one is a giga fatty you could lose tens of pounds and barely see a difference.Although, you might want to lose even more weight, you probably wont have as much muscle as you think.
>201lbs at night everyday this week>200.1lbs every morning this weekAHHHHHHH LET ME GO BELOW 200 YOU FAGGOT BODY
>>76660595nta but thank you for this post, inspired me to keep it up even if i don't visibly see anything
>>76660580lol it’s gonna be okay man.
>>76660595Been lurking this thread for a while and gotta thank you for this, thought I'd never escape skinnyfat hell since the only significant fat left im aware of is my midsection and I'm only 3-4 kgs away from 70
Slowly churning my way through all the meme foods. Today was ground turkey. Actually surprised it was good. Made some burgers and they cooked up pretty well. Thankyou based turkey
>>76659252I don’t have an appetite anymore, I just lost the best woman in the world after 13 years. I failed dieting for years because my willpower sucks, it’s just shit I had to get my heart broken for any change. It wasn’t even intentional. The first week I just had black coffees all day and a cup of noodles. I eat a little bit more and I when I counted my calories one day I eat anywhere between 900-1300 a day
>>76658618Why does my brain instantly assume the poster to be annoying low IQ manchild with terrible taste when I see an anime image?Is this some evolutionary defense mechanism?
>>76660465>There have been legit medical cases of blockages being caused by these things.In that anons defense, I have eaten a lot of konjac pasta over the years and never had issues. I wonder if it's a genetic thing or one of those cases where people who aren't used to fiber get issues, similar to when you put a fastfood enjoyer onto veggies for the first time and their stomach has a goddamn exorcism.>They're entirely indigestibleI mean that's kind of the point no?
>>76660869>In his defense, people smoke and sometimes don't get cancer. Therefore, it's totally reasonable to assume that I can smoke without consequences.
>>76660873Your comparison is dis-analogous anon.
>>76660875It's not, but whatever.
>nearing goal weight>mental state is a superposition of "Damn, I've made amazing progress" and "Fuck, I'm still a fat subhuman"
>>76660882I'm really not in the mood to argue anon, so let's not. Don't worry, I haven't mentioned konjac before in this thread and don't plan on shilling them, so thread health is not at risk. I tend to stay quiet about what works for me anyways, because half the things cause anons here to have a melty and I'm too old to deal with that annoyance.I do get what you were trying to say though, don't worry, your metaphor would fit if my goal was to say "I ate them, therefore they are fine" but my goal was instead to explain "in his defense" that the assumption that they are fine to eat is understandable given how widespread they are and how some people (me included) handle them fine.Wishing you a nice day anon, and good weight losses.
>>76660890Maybe you didn't understand when I said "but whatever". It means I don't care to converse with you anymore. I didn't even read your post. The conversation is over.
>>76660885To some extent that's normal, and I suppose bipolar between "It's so joever" and "we're so back" is better than just dooming, but keep in mind that there is no reality outside, just the interpretation of it you have in your head. Chances are those fluctuations in self perception map pretty closely to your mental state on each given day (though that's hard to differentiate given that it's a hen and egg situation where one thing influences the other).Take care of yourself and remember how far you've gotten, wagmi.
>>76660899Well that's childish, but fair enough. I still wish the best to you.
Had to give a no face no case. Why does midsection have to be a nightmare kek
>>76660885Damn, you ugly
>>76659514Crunch is cool. I use crunch. Barbells. Hoist and nautilus. Good HIIT zone if you’re gay
>>76659676You only need 200-500 below your lean body mass maintenance. You’re gonna Peter out after a while. Try to do 12 week cut, then 6 weeks at lean body maintenance and allow yourself some do the “if it fits the macros/calories” days. Psychological is important.
>>76659840I did that too in 2019. You’re gonna lose muscle mass. My chest and arms are themselves bubba. I used to be able to bear hug a 55gallon drum filled with chemical. If ya gotta do what ya gotta do, I understand bubba. But be prepared to be skinny-fat.
>>76660957if there was only a way you could rectify that....
>>76660466No. You need to change your “I’m full” chem production. As someone who stuck to OMAD because I like 2000calorie meals. Train yourself on 500cal meals.
>>76660962Uh yeah. The PPL 5 day A/B split? No shit sherlock. The point is losing muscle is quicker than gaining it back, tardmonkey
I will be a skinny chad
>>76660962And being skinny isn’t what’s going to make any man that isn’t a homo in here feel good. You need to drop the fat sure, but if you don’t retain muscle and build after you’re still gonna have fucking body dysmorphia. So why tell people to do shit that’s gonna set them back years
Fatty ContestMakimas Footstool112.9kg
115,55kgs today, really want to get to 114,5 this month
starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8current weight: 107.5 kg 25/9goal weight: 70 kgheight: 179 cmmethod: rolling 72s with salt water and coffee
>>76660863No you cannot have evolved to dislike anime posters because they have only existed in our current generation so there was never any evolutionary pressure that selected for this type of traitAnd the fact that you asked such a stupid question just means you're the low IQ manchild
Fatty ContestTimTimSlam228 lbs
Fatty Contest TimTamSlam 228 lbswhoops
CW: 89.1kgShit's fucking hard, I wonder if I'll ever get to 70s.Sorry for my 3rd world language nothing I can do about it.
>>76660941bro hide your fucking pubes, that's disgusting
>gone from 105kg to 80kg in 2 & 1/2 months>no loose skin>just a couple small stretch markssweetI hope i don't suddenly get some once I lose the last ~10kgloose skin looks fucking awful
>>76661477>loose skin looks fucking awfulYes it is, but if 105kg was your max then you most likely wont have any loose skin. My max was 155kg and I look so damn hideous.
>>76661480>My max was 155kg and I look so damn hideous.grimdoes it ever fix itself overtime or is the only option surgery?
>>76661477>>gone from 105kg to 80kg in 2 & 1/2 monthswhat? how do you even lose 25 fucking kilos in two and a half months?sorry but I don't believe you bro
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>>76661500fasting; 48s/72s/96sI can post pictures of my fatass now and from july if you really want lol
>trying to bulk>lose 2kg in 2 monthssorry for offtopic
>>76661493Dunno, I sure as shit wont have the money for a surgery. I went as far down as 80kg and it didnt look too good. Then I stopped counting calories and started a dirty bulk and got up to 105 in around a year (damn summer vacation and almost a month of drinking every day), now im back down to 94kg (me >>76660108). I have been fasting from monday to thursday and eating till sunday so if fasting helps, it doesnt seem to help that much. I will say my dirty "bulk" was pretty successful, Im pretty sure I have almost the same amount of fat when I was around ~85kg.
>>76661521I've heard fasting can help with lose skin, in that assists in helping your body can recycle the excess skin but I guess past a certain point of being a hamplanet there is only so much it can do desu.
>>76661535Fasting recycles damaged cells, loose skin is perfectly healthy from the bodies perspective
>>76661535Muscle growth can off set loose skin to an extent
>>76661477I went from 250 to like 135 in a year. Just have mild stretch marks on my inner thighs. Good times. Happy for you.
>>76661551Ewww that seems excessive.
>>76661551based, though 135 seems pretty light unless you're a midget
>>76661561I was 17 at the time and 5'9
>>76661556Ok
Are there any caffeine sources that are easier on the stomach than coffee? Coffee makes me vomit horribly but I can’t replace it with energy drinks or pre workout because I try to avoid sweeteners whether they’re real or artificial.
>>76661588Look into Amin.o energy drinks, thhey have 100mg caffine like coffee, help with hydration, and taste amazing.
>>76661389I'd be sobrepeso if I was an obesidad too.
I was told that fasting one day a week is good for your metabolism, is there any truth to that?
>>76661588This probably isn't what you're looking for, but I recently switched from caffeine pills to this. They're much easier on the body in my experience and give a much more even flow of energy. They are unsweetened.>>76661595He just said he tries to avoid sweeteners.
>>76661525Stay strong bro
>>76661602Sure, its not gonna be a magic bullet but it helps
>>76661525There he is! Stay strong hatfren!I remember a while ago you wanted to make a career change, any news on that?>>76661588Depending on where you are in the world, there is unsweetened green tea in bottles available. Or just make it yourself, there's all kinds from dirt cheap to hipster stuff to genuine specialties.
>>76661650Your pathetic attempts at having a 4chan friendship with the hatguy are extremely cringe attentionwhoringJust link up in discord or something you faggots
>>76661652Well you certainly seem like a well adjusted individual.
>>76661633You as well>>76661650Yeah, a backwards step to be honest, why I dont post "stay strong" as its been hard lately, and dont really want to get into it because Im not seeking sympathy. >>76661652You can talk to me, I dont mind being frens with you either.
>>76661670Sorry to hear that. Wish you all the best nonetheless!
>>76661681Thank you, fren. Troubles always go away at some point, Ill just keep waking up.
>frens>frenTranny alert
actually fren is a right wing sign
>>76661588Green tea. I get 48 bags for $2.50 at trader joes.
>>76661509>I can post pictures of my fatass now and from july if you really want lolsure, would love to see that desujust to see how big of a change you made
>>76661878here you gothe two photos are almost exactly 2 months apart, 24 july - 24 septemberstill a fatass but getting there
i'm hungry as shit, niggas
down 0.5 pounds, it begins, WAGMI.
>>76660869it’s like when retards eat fiber supplements and don’t accompany it with a plethora of water. yes, anything will clog you up if you don’t drink water and eat other healthy foods
>>76661902The progress is extremely visible. Great job.
>>76660899shut up you stupid nigger, konjac works well. sorry you’re too fat brained to know what portion control is
>>76661926Not all fiber supplements require additional water.
>>76661926True, a lot of dehydrated motherfuckers eating fiber out there.
Anons, how can I condition myself into becoming anorexic?Don't be fucking moralfags
>>76661958You employ the ancient teenage girl technique of vomit maxxing.Be warned that frequent acid reflux will attack your teeth though and you'll need veneers or some shit eventually.
>>76661965that's just bulimia though which is even worse since like you said you fuck your teeth/throat/mouth with stomach acid
>>76661971I mean if we go by the actual definition you don't need to condition yourself at all>food restrictionJust a diet, that's what everyone here does anyways>body image disturbanceLet's be honest, if you're on /fit/ you got that covered, even moreso if you're on /fat/.>fear of gaining weight>overpowering desire to be thinBoth covered if you're on /fat/.In other words, just diet, you got the other symptoms already.
>>76661930thanks anon, appreciate itI also have this picture taken on the 9th of july but I was a dumbass and didn't take off my jacketyou can still still my bloated as fuck gut thoughanyway fasting and 10k+ steps a day seems to work for me
>>76661902shave your body hair and start lifting
I'm 6.2 72.5kg/160lbs and still skinny fatI already lost 32.5kg/70lbsUnironically wtf do I do? I am approaching underweight territory and I still have a bulging stomach
>>76661982That anon is someone else. What anorexics do that fatties like us don't is develop a fear of weight gain that outweighs their need for food intake. I want to find out if there is a way for me to develop the same mindset where not eating is preferred to eating.
>>76662006time to lift
>>76662028how do you think I lost all that weight?
>>76662032CICO by definitionI'm just saying you've reached the point of needing to clean bulk and focus on building muscle
Dropped all my deenz in the sink :(
Whenever I feel urge I hop into /fph/ and keep on reading posts on there.
>>76662010> I want to find out if there is a way for me to develop the same mindset where not eating is preferred to eating.Probably not worth it, but you can maybe read up on CBT psychotherapy their methods are for reinforcing healthier ways of thinking.I'd wager it works the same way in reverse.
Be a Chad
>>76661965don't do that will burn your stomach lining up happened to my sister, now she cant eat shit without being sick 24/7
>>76661958fast a lot, and eat one tiny meal a day. like a piece of chicken a day. your brain will get adjusted to it and see the pain as pleasure, happened to me once. just have to be a masochist
>>76662251I mean I'm not advocating for it in any way shape or form, it'll fuck you up big time, but that anon specifically said >Don't be fucking moralfags
>>76659483I dont. I leave the gym a sweating stinking mess every day. I wring out my shirt in the parking lot before I get in my car. There is no need or use in preventing sweat, just embrace it. I have noticed that I swest slightly less after losing 30lbs but I still sweat like a pig.
>>76662006You obviously have very little muscle mass. I am the same height and went down to 79 and was good but I lifted hard.
>>76662274nah i was just explaining how bad it can get, its all goode brah
>>76660601Dont sorry next week you'll wake up and be 198 because thats how it always fucking happens.
>>76662251Honestly I dont think your sister should be eating shit. Fecal matter would make anyone throw up if eaten.
>>76660863perhaps reddit is a better place for you
>>76658700ITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOES
>>76658514SECOND THREAD IN A ROW without NUNS or DUCKS. this is unacceptable. you WILL repent you WILL feel a sense of embarrassment and you WILL post NUNS and DUCKS the next time you make a thread.
>>76660863It's probably the brain worms, if you stop having homosexual activity for a month your anus will heal and they won't be able to get inside you.
>Skipped lunch>drank a protein shake with some espresso instead>caffeine anxiety is starting to kick in>I'm still hungry anyways
what do y'all do when the day is just flying by and you haven't eaten?? do you just go with the flow and if you aren't hungry until way later then so be it? at the rate i worry i wont naturally feel hungry until right before bed. and i don't wanna eat and go straight to bed
>do 5.25 miles in 20 minutes on exercise bike>heart rate barely goes above 160>barely even sweating afterwardsit's not just about how much you can lift bros
>>76658696>10% is not a huge increase
>>76662545i just think of two thingsthe hunger pains are just fake from food addictionand the hunger pains mean im going to lose weight (because i fast)
When I used to fast in my 20s I used to feel like time went by super slow. Also I was always fuming to angry outburstsI can't imagine fasting in my 30s being healthy but I might be back later w results
>>76658618Whenever I get hunger pains or feel hungry in general, I just remind myself that feeling means im losing weight much like when you feel sore the next day after a workout means that your muscles are repairing.no pain no gainno hunger no loss
>>76662617same its just a reminder that I'm in a calorie deficit or a fast and im going to lose weight.
>>76658514I am 250lbs and just want to get big arms and be intimidating
>>76662362heh i should tell her that
>>76662614when I fasted in my 20s I felt like I got some of the effects like mental clarity and shit. Then in my 30s I did a week long fast and just became absolutely obsessed with mexican food. Literally just watching documentaries and cooking content all day. There was no mental benefit at all if anything I became a weird guy.
>>76662623Then workout fatty
ate 250 more than i should have for the day feeling like a failure
Fasted for 187 hours while drinking only water, coffee and diet coke and lost 5 kilos. Why do people diet instead of fasting? This is much easier.
>>76662779how much do u weigh total?
have the flu and binge ate last nightfml
>>76662788me on the left
>fell off the train, gained a couple lb back>went straight to my cheeks fuck looking chubby again >getting back on this week>breakfast-skipping-IF>extreme forehead headaches at 10 am unless I eat something earlier this week>no headache today, ate at noon>450 Cal in the day so far and not hungry it's 3 pm >phewwhile I do want body gains the 5mm reduction in cheek thickness feels so good to look at it makes such a huge differencethanks for reading
>>76662739tomorrow's another chance
>>76662800damn righthad to raise my weekly limit from 7k to 7.2k so friday-sunday intakes wouldnt be so low and lead to a binge. but this week can still be a good one if i dont screw up again.wagmi
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I now weigh about what I did in early January before deciding to put on 30 lbs by binge-eating sloppa every day.
i'm omading and lost like 30 lbs thus far. should i be weighing myself everyday or is that a foolproof way to sabotage myself?
>>76661945Feel like i drink plenty of water yet poops are continuously a few round balls that are quite the effort to pass. I thi k bouncing around different diets for the past year has done a number on my biome. The last time i shit properly was when i did a month of daily probiotics. Not good to use these forever, but thinking of trying another course
I'm so bored. Losing weight takes so long. It's going to take me like 2 years to get better. What is your favorite star wars media show to watch?
https://www.wikihow.com/Lose-Weight-on-a-Subway-Diethave u guys ever tried sandwhich diet?
>>76662989>I'm so bored>What is your favorite star wars media show to watchmanchild
>>76662989KOTOR cutscenes
>>76662977nothing wrong with hopping on the scalejust dont obsess over water weight
>>76662557i usually eat something small and low carb
>>76662982>Not good to use these forever, but thinking of trying another courseI find that just cooking everything myself from good ingredients helps me with regular stools. So does a mild increase in fiber (once you're already used to some, for some people it seems to make things worse) and caffeine.I used to be one of those people that don't shit for weeks, glad that's over.
>>76662989>What is your favorite star wars media show to watch?You have to be an adult to post here
>>76663050>glad that's over.I'm hearing ya. If I have a good poop in the morning, I usually have an awsome day.
>>76662989You should watch Clone Wars & Andor.
weigh in tomorrow. Not sure i've done all I can, but looking forward to seeing some sort of result.
>>76662989The only starwars related movie I have ever seen was Caravan of Courage when I was a kid. That wolf thing in the cave still haunts my sleep to this day.
>>76663017I really wanted to enjoy KOTOR but couldn't do it.
I swear on go on sprees of working out every 6 months eating good n working out all the time then I just get bored of it and quit
>>76663200I used to do this too. What worked was lowering the amount I did until it felt manageable. Going to the gym once a week is better than not going at all.
>>76663200thats why u get urself a gf to motivate u to keep up ur figure for her
>holidays are coming upWhat's your plan this year, /fat/?
>>76662993I've tried the healthy/low cal sandwhichs and they honestly just taste like assThe high cal ones full of fatty meats and cheeses are really nice obviously, but if i am going to try and eat low cal i would rather just eat something else desu
>>76663323>get urself a gfI find it more motivating to find a new girl each weekend
>>76663323>wanting a gfNORMAL FAGS GET OFF MY BOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD
>>76663355..why dont u want a gf? r u gay or smthing?
>>76663368I have no desire for a hookup or a relationship ever again
Who's klilling it in the fatty contest these days? Havent checked in for ages. >t. Endless
>>76663372so u are gay, got it
>>76663374that's not gay anon
>>76663377what normal hetero man wouldnt at least want sex and/or romance with a woman?maybe he’s asexual..
>>76663372Hookups are gay, but pursuit of marriage is a Godly ambition.
Fatty ContestCaptainPlanet127.6kgI'm thinkin' I'm back.
>>76662614This is why I'm glad I was raised in a muslim household, when I decided to stop being a fatass terrorist I was already trained by ramadan to omad for months without a problem
How much do macros matter if I just want to escape skinnyfat assuming I'm cico'ing and hitting the gym regularly? I'm already prioritising protein percentage over fats and carbs, but would I be fucked if my carbs was way higher than fats or vice versa on the daily?
>>76663392carbs build muscle my dudehigh carb high protein
>>76663392I was doing ok with fatloss until I started overthinking macros. For me, just keeping it simple, 3 meals a day, cook my own food, drink plenty of water is all I need to focus on.
>>76658514my life would have been so much easier if i had been diagnosed with adhd earlier. love my addys. I no longer need to be a glutton.
>>76663163maybe try playing it high.
>>76663434I'd rather not become psychotic again.
>>76663507Okay. Kotor 2 is better than the first one anyways
>the cheap hotdog sausages I thought are pretty lean actually aren't lean and have more fat than proteinwhoops
>>76663420I was diagnosed as a kid but my dad is the kind of guy who doesn't believe in mental disorders, so he made me stop taking my meds after a while (coincidentally my grades quickly went to shit and I've never really recovered)I should really look into getting an adult diagnosis but it's hard for me to work up the motivation to see a doctor
>>76663515like 80% of the meat you can buy has more fat than proteinthis is not a problem if you aren't eating 800 calories of carbs a day
>>76660855Well that's not funny at all.Still, it is an opportunity to take charge of your life. Make it intentional. Count your calories, and count your macros. Bad things start to happen when you go too low on proteins and fats (yet somehow eating very little carbs is okay for a while. your metabolism just rewires itself and keeps on trucking.)Also, your rate of weight loss is crazy fast. Dangerously fast. Unless you're eating a lot of proteins in very few calories, you'll losing muscles and you don't want that, it's a pain in the ass to grow them back.(lookup "PSMF" if you're intent on still losing weight really fast.)
I've been dieting for 2 weeks and went from 95 kg to 87 kg, am I going to die? I feel like it shouldn't be this fast.
>>76663645I dont know about fat. Hear you should eat lean, but also you need to eat fst so not to crash test. Hard to know what to do anymore. Perhaps the healthy food pyramid was right all along
>>76663789the food pyramid is the exact opposite of what you should be doingif you want to lose weight, eat more meat and less carbs
>>76662137I just come here, same effect, but I like the positivity here. And I hope one day to get a captcha that says WAGMI
>>76662967Good job. Every time, learn something and avoid the same loop, or at least catch it earlier
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>>76663754Even with water weight loss that's a lot. But if you don't do anything stupid like fasting while running marathons, should be fine. Don't get used to it, it'll slow down.
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Fatty Contest MeltingButterGolem247lbs
>four months of deficit + daily cardio and lifting>lost 18kg>did a week of fasting, 21kg down>go back on deficit, 20kgam i too impatient with my weight loss and should just continue with the deficit or fast again?
>>76663869your poop can weigh up to 10kg, when youre fasting you have no poop
Fatty ContestWitnessMe114 kg
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 101.65 kgOverall progress:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/100wR8eSjgID2U9K4qSInTYTaZXxJwOxB-IrfGBnWTqI/edit?gid=0#gid=0Motivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaF59uEcFL8Seems some much needed changes are in order.I found out not all proteins are created equal and I'd be better off replacing Skyr and Cottage Cheese with more eggs and chicken breast. So 5 boiled egg for breakfest it is.I also purchased this glycine powder:https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NVDWKQ0All it made me feel is drained, stiff under the skin (like wrapped in rubber) and that thing had clumps in it instead of being a fine powder. I should throw that shit out shouldn't I?Finally I'm starting to think having that 1k meal with near 100 protein in it could be better off broken into 2 smaller ones because apprantly my 224 lbs body cant absorb more than 66g per meal.
>>76663913Lmao get rekt faggot
>>76663876You've never fasted, huh?
>>76663876>Your poop can weigh up to 10kgIn what world do you live
So many fat shits who can't lose any weight in the contest
>>76663950Feel free to post your time-stamped glorious body (you won't)
>>76663957Dont feed the troll.
>>76663957Lose some weight
>>76663964>you won't
>>76663965Yeah, you won't lose any weight.
>>76663971>still no body
Fatty Contestninetwonine84.6kg
>>76663913having more varied protein sources is good.glycine powder is fine as a supplement, small amounts is fine. it's not real food. throwing it away would be a waste. but stop taking it if you have weird side effects.the absorbing x amount of protein in a meal is meme, it takes a long time to digest protein. 100g of protein in a meal would take at least 10 hours to digest it all. protein is essential so you're body is good at getting the most protein out of it as it can. cavemen would have had big meals of protein whenever they hunted or trapped animals.
>>76663973>still no weight loss
>>76663980>Still no body
>>76663645I'm aiming to start that protein sparing modified fast Lyle wrote about, so I'm getting around getting lean protein. It seems that I have pretty damn strict because sure as hell I will snack there and there no matter what I eat so I need to counter that.
>>76663995>sure as hell I will snack thereall you need is beef jerky
>>76664001You underestimate my appetite
>>76664007you will never make it on that diet thenPSMF is the hardest diet to follow, even harder than fasting
>>76664013As I said, I plan to use it to counter my snacking. It won't be perfect, but better than normal.
Fatty ContestMeltingButterGolem347lbs
Fat shit central
>>76664019>I plan to use it to counter my snacking.I don't want to be that guy, the guy who says "just have some self control!" because obviously if it was that easy none of us would be here. But come on. You have to at least try, or no diet is ever going to work.
posting a physique update because I just reached my goals for this month.>15 clean pull ups from dead hang in one set (up from 12 last month)>lost over a poundAlmost at 4 months of cutting.
>>76664147Damn, you look like shit
NEW>>76664175>>76664175>>76664175
>>76664147keep it up
I ate a salad, drank a soda and ate a piece of candy like the disgusting ape I amI have failed as a human being
ended a dry fast at 38 hours, i got too over heated and light headed, started feeling like i had a hang over. still going to diet and do fasts again later. was my first fast in 2 years.