eating all my calories for breakfast again :(

>>76767550
I've overeaten the past 2 days to celebrate hitting 200lbs
I have to reign myself back in tomorrow because i still have weight to lose.

>>76767559
happened to me too, trying to get back on track.
feeling fine so far.

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Fasting:
>hunger goes away, can't stop thinking about food, feel like shit all the time, probably lose muscle too
1700 calories a day:
>constant small hunger, barely lose weight
1500 calories a day:
>constant small hunger, barely lose weight, constantly thinking about food
1000 calories a day:
>feel like shit, constant hunger, can't stop thinking about food... but I lose weight
If I wasn't a poornigger subhuman I would've already hopped on 'jaro

>>76767616
i just go with fasting since im going to feel like shit and think about food all the time anyway. might as well just have fast weight loss.

>been doing 2 meals a day within 3hours for about 3 months
>adjusted to the hunger and energy
>get back home late yesterday and didnt get to get second meal
>really hungry so i get a late night meal before bed
>sleep like a baby

I gym in the morning and need the energy, so I get like 17hours of fasting a day. But that sleep was so good I'm thinking I need to turn the schedule around. But it fucks over the fasting. What do?

About to embark on a 3 day fast. Wish me luck, bros.

why do you guys like to fast instead of doing systemic change to your behaviour? For instance, learn to count calories and consistently eat the appropriate amount of calories for your TDEE?

>>76767771
>just.. eat like a normal person
damn dude why didnt i ever think of that

>>76767771
Fasting is easier for me

>>76767771
>instead of doing systemic change to your behaviour
Fasting is systemic change to your behavior
>For instance, learn to count calories
You have to measure everything exactly, as soon as you start approximating stuff, using calories stops working. Measuring every single food item you use is exhausting, and losing weight is mostly about not losing your mind and eating a bunch of unhealthy shit at 10pm. Even if you put in an effort measuring literally every drop of oil you use, you're relying on the data from manufacturers or someone on the internet to be accurate, and they sometimes aren't. If you eat out, have someone prepare food that isn't you, or live with people that mess with your food (This stew really needed 10 glugs of olive oil. Yes, I know you're trying to lose weight, why?), you get into higher degrees of uncertainty.
>your TDEE
This is honestly the biggest problem for me. TDEE is a made up number. It's pure fiction. You're don't have a character sheet like in a video game with a hidden TDEE number that you can't see, but get close to. Doing things in your life burns different amount of calories. If you go hiking for a few days, have a stressful week at work, or get sick, all those things massively impact the amount of calories you burn. Sometimes, I have 20k steps in a day, sometimes I have 5k. Sometimes I play chess for 10 hours, sometimes I sit on my ass and do nothing. Measuring body weight to determine your TDEE is completely unreliable, due to bloating and a shit ton of other factors that influence your weight in the moment. I'm convinced that everyone who is successfully "counting calories" is just eating the same 3 meals every day, and does jack shit in their life. And at that point you don't really need calories anyway.

>>76767773
>>76767854
it took me like 6 months to go through food addiction withdrawals with hallucinations. I just ate my maintenance calories. Then when things got better and I didn't gain any weight I started using a deficit.

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Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 98.55 kg

Overall progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiFJoSCFjYI

>>76767854
It's common sense to leave enough margin of error to compensate for any missed calories whilst counting, thr weight will go down guaranteed, absolutely no one ever said nor thinks a person can be 100 percent accurate calorie counting without living a chore of a life weighing every gram of tomato sauce, no one is pushing that idea, you're just too lazy to do the bare minimum and spend less than 3 minutes some days counting

Idk where you people come from who can only think in extremes
>omg you must be expecting me to count every single atom of whatever enters my mouth every single day of my life forever noo
>id rather starve myself completely for 42 hours straight periodically

>>76768016
All in all what I mean, fasting is fine, but don't act like you're fasting because there's some inherent flaw in calorie counting

You're fasting because you just have horrific self discipline when it comes to regularly being in contact with food so you need to resort to abstaining completely, that's ok, sooner or later you'll get less fat, the cravings will hit less and you can actually start calorie counting long time

>>76768016
Why are you even replying to me, if you're not going to address anything I said, and just strawman the shit out of everything.

>you just have horrific self discipline when it comes to regularly being in contact with food
Who do you think gets fat and needs to lose weight you fucking retard

>>76768050
because everything you said is just a massive cope for being unable to actually calorie count and being impatient
once this fasting phase is behind you and you're less of a fatass, start calorie counting or you're honestly ngmi

>wake up
>craving chicken nuggets and ground beef
the struggles of a carnivorechad

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>>76767538
Fatty Contest
ReodorFelgen
69.1kg

Okay, while I'm sure I held a fair bit of water last week, and not a lot today, I really need to slow down a bit for now. I've been going way too hard at it the last 3 weeks. I'm exhausted.

>>76767771
1. cico is retarded
2. there are no "systemic changes" you can make to your diet to lose weight. it's either you eat junk food, or you don't. nobody is getting fat because they're eating too much home cooked potatoes and ground beef, it's because they're buying a large carbohydrate bomb pizza, dipping it in hydrogenated goybean oil ranch, and chugging it down with a side of high fructose corn syrup
3. fasting works

I'm 15 lbs over my max but walked a similar mile time to the lighter weight. So i smashed some Arby's

>>76768174
lmao ngmi

just had rice for breakfast

>>76768247
Are you asian?

80kg and 19%bf still. But I lost a cm on the waist compared to last week so that's nice. 18% next week maybe.

>>76768277
post body

Fatty Contest
Vik
225.2 lbs
>want to go to gym this morning
>get shelter in place alert

>>76768253
nope
also i'm already hungry again lol

>>76768336
Yeah, ngmi

I'm starting to get the feeling that my inability to force myself to sleep more is holding me back more than anything.
>workday
>get up at 8am after 6 hours of sleep
>feel decent but get really hungry around 10am already and even if I eat feel hungry within two hours
meanwhile
>weekend
>get 9 hours of sleep
>no problems not eating anything until 4-5pm
>one meal makes me full for the rest of the day
I wish I was unemployed.

>>76768356
Go to bed earlier then

>>76768362
but then work time will come earlier

>>76768312
My last shreds of sanity won't allow me to post a pic of myself on 4chan, tyvm.
I'm using the calculator in the OP, 190cm tall and 36cm neck.

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>sitting on the couch like fat lazy fuck watching NFL
>eating, drinking and snacking away
>feel shit after 6 hours
>“tomorrow I am going to start exercising!“
>develop an entire 4 week plan with chatgpt including tracking and explanations and links and food plan
>tomorrow comes
>absolutely no motivation to do anything
>barely doing anything for work just clicking around feeling down and miserable
>eat two bowls of sugary cereals plus choc donut
>BMI +35
>of course I don’t start with my plan

Why am I like this.. I have wasted almost all my 20s and 30s with being a fat lazy slob. I want to look good, be admired by women again. Don’t get me wrong I‘m not an incel, I have a wife and two kids. But my wife has started nagging me about my weight, I can tell she is getting friendlier by the day with other guys. That’s one concern but there is also heart problems in my family and I want to try and join the military.

HOW TO GET STARTED AAAAAAHHHHHH

>>76768399
Just do it, unironically.

>>76768399
Just remove all temptation to snack on sugary foods, nigga. Remove that entirely from your life, don't give it to your kids, tell your wife not to buy it anymore. Willpower is finite, so it's better to cut it all out. Replace sugar with diet soda if the cravings are really bad.

Also

>I want to be admired by women again
>But I have a wife :) promise
You're a lying nigger. Try fasting, fatty.

>>76768399
>HOW TO GET STARTED AAAAAAHHHHHH
get up and start walking

>>76768399
plan less do more

>>76768399
>HOW TO GET STARTED AAAAAAHHHHHH
start by not eating, it's really that simple.

Benis looking bigger this morning lads, surely I will put it to use in 2026.

>>76768399
Less thinking, more doing. Just go to the gym, it doesn't matter what you do there. Motivation will come the more you do it.

>>76768375
smol feminine neck.

>>76768405
Getting admired and actually starting something are two different things. That look of disgust or even the neutral look when they look down on my protuding belly kills me everytime.

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>>76768375
Heh no way this shit is correct.

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>>76768399
JUST DO IT. One small win is so rewarding over the years of neglect. Leave the mental barrier behind and move your ass. Go for a walk, eat something healthy for once. Change your lifestyle one step at the time. The sooner, the better.
You have to do this for yourself, for your wife and kids. You have a huge advantage in your wife. Surely, she can help you a lot in your journey. But just DO IT. Nobody else can lose all that fat for you.

>>76767854
It sounds more like you're using fasting as a magic pill for the illusion of control. And going into hypotheticals and extremes to somehow prove that a working method just for some reason doesn't work for you, that you are special in some way or form. That martyrdom indicates you have some problems with your personality, and if I had to guess you think unconsciously your weight is what makes you special, thus doing things the correct way & losing it would take you into uncharted waters, and that makes you afraid.

Do this just for a month. Eat the same breakfast, lunch, dinner every single day. Cook everything you eat yourself. If you eat oat porridge, weight the dry oats every time. Eat with the same size plate etc. Only have black coffee and water. No added sugar anywhere. Eating the same thing changes your nervous system and addictions. Weighing everything is easier when you only have a few pieces.

You'll also need to change how you look at thibgs. No more "IF I go to a hike for 10 days"-bullshit. Everything on top of your BMR and structured eating habbit is extra. It's the baseline. If you do go and complete a thriatlon suddenly, you snack proper food, slow carbs and hard boiled eggs. Stop cheating, the only one you're harming is yourself. What you're doing now isn't healthy or sustainable.

>>76767884
dude what is wrong with your TDEE calculation? no way in hell is your caloric requirement that high. what are you doing to use 6 fucking thousand calories a day???

>>76768147
>1. cico is retarded
and then you say
>3. fasting works
you just love to be a clown, don't you

>>76767771
People with extreme addictions to food can only stop piling on weight when they stop eating completely. I believe you are correct in saying they are indeed coping and I think they will always shoot back up in weight when trying to eat normally

>>76768419
Yeah I lost a few centimeters there as my weight went down. Didn't realise a neck could get fat. Bit annoying because some collars I got have holes and buckles or w/e on two sides and I can't get them symmetrical anymore.

>>76768431
Are you sure you're measuring correctly? That puts your waist smaller than mine somehow.

>>76768399
time will move on with or without you exercising and you can grow old and fat or become a handsome fuck. all it takes for you to get up and fucking do it. there's no special moment waiting for you where motivation hits you. you'll have to _make_ that moment come by doing the thing you need to do.

>>76768529
Yeah, I'm sure. You're taller pretty sure yours should be bigger by default.

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FUCK YOU YOUTUBE STOP RECOMMENDING THIS SHIT TO ME IT'S HARD ENOUGH BEING SHORT I DON'T NEED IT THROWN IN MY FACE EVERY FUCKING DAY

I went to an actual gym today. The last "gym" I went to was my old apartment complex's about 4 years ago. I didn't last very long, but I'll try harder tomorrow. I hope I can get the courage to use something other than the treadmill after a few weeks of going. I'm nervous about it all, but I'm determined to be better. I hope you all are trying your best with your goals, too.

Went running yesterday for the first time ever in my life (in the sense that I'm running for runnings sake) and it went surprisingly well despite still being 100kg and a smoker with a sedientary lifestyle. Ran 2km. Didn't even hurt my legs or feet but hooooleeeeeeeee shit I feel it today in my shins and hip to leg ligaments lmao

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>search only for watches, radios and stuff like that
>Alixpress advertises laxative fudge to me
Uh

>>76768484
> 1h of jogging (6km total)
> 3 sets of pull ups x 30
> 2 sets of dips x 30
> 1 set of push ups x 20
> Cycling 5¬10 miles per day
> 8h work shifts in cold storage warehouse
> Doing all chores since I live by myself (cooking, shopping, cleaning)

It can go up to 4k/day on a regular day.
6k happens if I do 12h shift at work as overtime.

>>76768583
What kind of watches?

>>76768484
And atleast 30k steps a day because of work/jogging.

>>76768628
>50 minute 5ks
>i walk as fast as that

>>76768484
I'd also wager that forcing a 6'10 behemoth of a body to do all that requires a formidable amount of energy.

>>76768572
Yeah I was pretty much the exact same way when I first started going. No one is going to care, but if you're really self-conscious try using simple machines like the row, chest press, leg extension, and leg press first until you feel more comfortable for the more complex ones and free weights.

YOU ARE FAT

>>76768687
im hungry too, what should i have for lunch?

>>76768689
Fast for the next 72 hours as punishment

>>76768670
Will do, thanks Anon

>>76768699
not an option, i want a snackie

>>76768687
every day a little less, though

wagmi

starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8
current weight: 99.2 kg 27/10
goal weight: 70 kg
height: 179 cm

method: rolling 72s with water and coffee

>>76767538
Fatty Contest
Claymore_lover
101 kg

That buffet with friends set me back up a little bit, but it should be fine now for the next 2 months.

I want to lose 8kg over the next two weeks.
And the sad part?
I know I can.

Fatty Contest
BetterNateThanLever
200.2 lbs

>>76768757
You can't

>>76768758
Great progress, how does it feel to be 150 pounds lighter?

>>76768708
what if you make it, but you rebound?

>>76768773
I won't, you will.

Bros, how long until I can stick my face into an attractive woman's crotch. *wheeze*

>>76768775
>you will
already did. This is my second fat loss

>>76768773
I did it once, I can do it twice. A man does not lose the same weight twice because it is not the same weight and he is not the same man.

>>76768776
For you? Never.

>>76768786
Honestly, the second time feels easier since you know the in and out.
Just need to prevent the third rebound.

>>76768764
see, I wish I couldn't
because if I couldn't that would mean that I wasn't as fat as I'm now, or that I haven't recently regained weight
I carry at minimum 5kg of water that will just evaporate since I'm going to stop eating so many carbs and with the actual calorie deficit and taking a good shit or two it will get me there

>>76768787
Rude. How do you know?

>>76768788
What is the key to prevent rebound though?
Just eating maintenance after reaching goal weight?
I feel like this change is for life. Counting calories and giving up on sedentary life doesn't sound bad at all.

>>76768793
Nah, you dumb.

>>76768798
I'm speaking from experience, anon.

>>76768796
I know

>>76768797
>Counting calories and giving up on sedentary life doesn't sound bad at all.
I didn't even think about it since you got used to it.
Rebound often happens because of external factors like a shitty jobs or a loved one death. (From my experience. I rebounded because of a shitty job)

Manlet here, I started at 230 pounds on January 1st and have tracked calories and ate high protein and worked out until now, down to 159 as of this morning. Still have some belly fat, chest fat. Just how far do I need to go to lose it? Should I just stop focusing on cutting more and all in on building muscle now? I don't want to be too light, I just wanted to lose fat... but starting to feel almost as emasculated as when I was 230 and had man tits visible through my shirts

>>76768825
How tall are you?

>>76768834
Just a little over 5'6"

>>76768838
Manlet brother...

>>76768838
Damn, sorry.

>>76768825
Are you lifting? Should start if you are not.

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Threadly reminder that
WAGMI

>>76768881
I might not make it. Sure maybe I'll get lean and not be fat. But I might never bury my giant penis in an above average woman.

>>76768806
You can make it again. Stay strong my brother.

>>76768893
Thank brother.

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>lose 150lbs
>Look normal
>Can see women looking at me now
>Women in work try and talk to me
>Still a sperg so i just look and run away
Damn, i thought being skinny would help but i guess not.

>>76768897
It helps you with the first step.
Now, you just need to learn to talk to woman instead of learning to avoid a lawsuit.

>>76768825
125 lbs
don't give up anon, forget about building muscle until you're satisfied with your body

>>76768825
Cut while working out, so you don't lose your muscle.

>>76768881
You're not because even if you get thin youre still an autist anime weirdo rather than a fat autist anime weirdo

grow up

I just ordered 3000kcals worth of KFC

>>76768916
anon I don't think you should encourage that obvious pedophile to take interest in real world
2D is safer here

>>76768825
Bro with little muscle you need to get down to like 120-125lbs to be lean

in other words you gotta bulk hard if you wanna be around 160. thats hugely ripped for your height. As in max muscle potential / steroid look.

>>76768916

>>76768881
thnaks anon

I'm having a bad day

>>76768960
go to sleep then
maybe tomorrow will be better

If I do couch to 5k will I lose all my muscle? I've just been walking for cardio, but it takes a long time. Jogging the same distance would save me time but I've heard cardio kills gains.

>>76768983
You have no muscle

>>76768986
Um, akshually I have alot of muscle. Answer the question.

>>76768989
No, you don't.

>>76768993
Just answer the question assuming I have a lot of muscles.

>>76768998
No

I really want to binge...

>>76769000
So you dont know the answer? Typical.

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>>76767550
you can borrow from tomorrow's calories, anon.

>>76769044
>debtmaxxer

>>76768925
that's for 2 days. right, anon?

>>76769051
I ate it all and then 2 protein bars afterwards

>>76768983
>I've heard cardio kills gains
gains as in new muscle forming.
in the same week, don't lift and run if you want to GAIN more muscle.
marathons lower type 2 muscle tissue (the big one) and increases type 1 muscle tissue (the small nad enduring one) so those who run marathons are always skeletal because they don't use explosive power at all unlike those who do 100 meter sprints.

>>76769056
Protein bars are the biggest aids. Too sweet and addicting and never filling. I have to keep mine in the freezer so I can't just eat the whole box w/o breaking a tooth.

>>76769056
you're fasting tomorrow, right?

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Went from 195+kg to 164kg today.

Yet everything I feel is profound sadness because she will never love me, and I get it. There are so many other guys funnier than me, prettier than me...

Yet I have always thought she is the one, because she really is different than other girls, but that doesn't mean she will ever love me.

My only cope is that perhaps I will get married to someone else when I lose the damn weight and start looking less like Shrek.

>>76768331
>home workout
there u go anon no excuses

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>>76768486
"In groups of four, men and women in their 40s and 50s, some of them lean and some overweight, overate for 30 d by 1000 kcal/d (4186 kJ/d) more than they needed to maintain weight. On an average dietary mixture for Americans they gained a mean of 2.68 kg, and on a diet high in carbohydrate (60 per cent of energy) they gained 2.73 kg. However, on a diet high in protein and fat (70 per cent of energy), they gained significantly less, 1.75 kg. On all three diets the subjects should have gained 5 kg, if adipose tissue has an energy density of 6 kcal/g, and had there been no adaptation. There was adaptation, as evidenced by an average 7 per cent increase in thermogenesis, which was measured by 24-h direct and indirect calorimetry. Energy balances were calculated from: bomb calorimeter values for food and body waste; change in fuel stores from body composition measured by densitometry; and daily expenditure estimated from the net food intake needed to maintain body weight during a 30-d control period."

>>76768399
stop always saying "tomorrow i'll start" "next week i'll start". start right fucking now. go sign up for the gym right now. get off your ass and go on a walk/run right now. that's how you start. if you keep saying tomorrow or next week you'll never actually start because it's an easy way to feel good in the moment but have a cop out when the time actually comes.

>>76769070
Post body

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>>76769070
Hey now, you're an all star for losing that weight. Get your game on., go make it!

>>76767538
For the wages of sin (what you, a sinner, earns for what you do) is death; but the gift of God (a mere acceptance by belief, aka, faith) is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

>>76767616
Tirz is only like $1.5-2/mg domestic and like $1 international. 1.5mg every 5 days pretty much nukes my appetite to the point where I literally have a hard time eating, though I seem to be a very good responder to it.

>>76768825
look up what people look like at 5'6 160lbs with decent muscle mass. You'll quickly realize that you are very far from having that much muscle mass and will need to drop quite a few more pounds to look lean. My bet is another 30lbs gl anon it's not gonna be fun but you can do it. If your #1 goal is to look lean in the shortest amount of time then losing the extra weight will be the way to go. You'd have to spend years (or do steroids) to put on enough muscle to look good at 160

>>76768797
The key is understanding that it is a change, a turning point. No need to keep counting calories etc. until the end times, just long enough until the self-deception ends. Until there's no more crossroad-moments daily. When you understand you are what you eat, you are in the most important relationship of your life with your own body, and you look in the mirror mesmerized every single morning. Then you can stop counting calories. Your body will tell you what it needs, and you will provide. No more putting any sort of shit down your temple corridor. You'll propably try. And it will not only feel bad, your body will ack a lot. After that last crossroad you never look back.

>>76768962
I am going to eat lunch and take a nap. Thank you.

Will I look like a doofus trying to do inverted rows at the squat rack while obese?

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>>76769093

>>76768768
People keep telling me I'm skinny now but my loose skin tells me otherwise.

>>76769155
this is a cope nigger what a bunch of useless words

>>76768797
you're going to be a fat fuck again unless you stop eating junk food forever
good luck

>>76769179
Why are you so sad, anon? Not only are you spewing shit, you propably are shit. What did you do to yourself, and why? Why the edgecringe?

>>76769172
you can also do it on the smith machine if less people use that, but no. no one will think anything of it unless you sit there for 45 minutes taking up the squat rack the entire time.

Can gigafats even do inverted rows? Isn't it a body weight exercise?

>>76769191
Invert this *eats you*

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I'm making a protein pancake

>>76769174
My experience as well.

>>76769179
Are you hungry?

>>76769155
Thank you for your kind words

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>>76769197
look at what they need just to mimic a fraction of our power

>>76769229
Ok

>>76769229
More like a fraction of your saturated fat

>>76769229
>Dies from heart attack

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>>76769236
>>76769239
>2025
>still brainwashed by jews

>>76769248
But anon, you're the one who is brainwashed by tranny tiktockers

>>76769094

You are too kind
I don't even know what to do. I am in university, most girls are either ugly or obnoxious

>>76769229
That looks so sad.

>>76769260
>I am in university, most girls are either ugly or obnoxious
You are 160kg, you have no right to call anyone ugly lmao

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>>76769252
actually my tiktokers look like this

>>76769271

Fair, but I can't make myself like someone whom I don't.
My standards aren't really high

If you have tips and tricks, i am open to hear it

Also fwiiw i got to 195kg because of disease...

Fatty Contest
Dotonbori
109.6kg

>>76769173
Good work anon

>>76769318
What disease?

>>76767308
up 3.3 lbs from just one week, its over

>>76769336

Pituitary adenoma. My hormones were a wreck. Endocrinologist said I ate sweets to protect myself from huge amounts of prolactin and cortisol. I couldn't even lose weight on ozempic

My striae are obvious cushing sign. I couldn't fit in the fucking mri (because of my shoulders since I am also 195cm height)

But none of that can compare with sadness I feel nowdays. I pray and hope God has something in cards for me.

Anyways sorry for ranting

i hope when i lose enough weight to have a flat belly i'll still have a fat ass and thighs

>>76769382
Why would you want such a thing?

>>76769388
my husband likes my fat ass

>>76769183
>>76769217
>cant handle banter without getting sensitive
low test behavior

>>76769390
your husband is lying to you

>>76769393
for what reason would he lie while i'm actively losing weight
i wouldn't flip shit if he told me my ass is too fat, i'm not a woman

>>76769397
anon would u be willing to post bod? not in a gay way im just really curious what your build looks like

>+1.3kg after refeed day
Despair

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>Female boss stopped me today and told me I shouldn't lose any more weight
That took me by surprise to be honest. Like I know I am skinny now, but to me I'm not at the point where everyone can tell when I wear regular loose clothes.
Idk how I feel about that.

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>>76769397
>it's a homosexual

>>76769401
Was she a fat bitch herself? Jealous that you're going to be skinnier than her?

>>76769399
not until i have an after pic, at least
>>76769402
yeah?
did you forget that there are no women on the internet

>>76769401
fuck her and assert dominance

>>76769401
she just doesnt want you to suffer pointlessly.
that was her way of telling you youre at the point where women won't reject you

next time just say that you want a wide margin in case you gain a little again.

>>76769401
That's a really weird and inappropriate thing for a boss to say to an employee.

>>76769412
She's not outright fat, but overweight yeah. Not what passes for "overweight" in USA though. She's a pretty kind lady, so I doubt it's that.

>>76769425
I'd rather not.

>>76769438
Apparently I had told her earlier in the year that I was on a diet, so it technically wasn't out of nowhere. I had just forgotten that I told her.

>>76769431
Idk about that, it's probably more that my face is pretty sunken in now, and I shaved today so it is a bit more noticeable.
I just told her the truth, it's pre-emptive damage control for december. There's no way I'm going to stay like this, I've reached my goal and then some.

>>76769449
how much have you lost? are u still fat or have u reached skinny status?

>>76769455
32.4kg since the start of May. I'm bordering on twig status. I'm ReodorFelgen in the contest.
She obviously meant well by it, I fully acknowledge that what I'm doing is pretty retarded, it just caught me off guard as I had assumed it was more subtle than that.

if you think about it, non-fat skim milk is really just protein water

>>76769466
164lbs at 6'2" Braza... you're wasting away

>>76769476
anon... it has more sugar than protein

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>>76769496
I know. I'm not going this low again, so right now I'm just doing it to test my limits.
>Lose as much as possible before december 1st
>Eat without restrictions
>Assess damage a week or two into the new year
>Adjust and get to 80kg by easter
That's my plan.

Fatty Contest
Name: bridgecocker
Weight: 258.8

>>76769511
You do what you think is best brother, was just busting your balls I believe in you. Besides you already got your boss trying to snizzle on your sausage.

>>76769533
Thanks man. I believe in you as well, wagmi.

>>76768399
I'm the same way anon. I'm not motivated by rewards, I'm motivated by consequences. Family/friends/doctors can scream at me until they're blue in the face that if you eat like shit you'll get preventable diseases like diabetes, but it goes in one ear and out the other. It wasn't until I got diagnosed with pre-diabetes and started experiencing symptoms from it that I finally started working out and eating right.

The motivation isn't to lose weight and get healthy, it was to avoid making the 'betes worse and make the symptoms go away. For what its worth I'm trying to shift that mindset, and the rewards from getting healthier is really nice and encourages me to continue. It feels like people who are crackheads and druggies must feel when people try to make them quit. You truly have to hit rock bottom and decide to change on your own, otherwise you'll just quit.

FUCK I ate too much protein on my keto diet... should I just work out a bit more today to deplete the excess glycogen? Don't want to get kicked out of ketosis...

>>76769173
hell yea, keep grinding anon

>>76769382
My ass got flat and uncomfortable to sit on. rip

>>76769586
Time to do all the girly butt exercises

>>76769566
Brother glycogen is not the issue. You'll process the protein and go back to ketosis. Don't be neurotic for no reason

>>76769566
autism

>>76769602
>>76769586
This, lost 160lbs, deflated ass hurt to sit on, started doing weighted thrust hips, six months after butt meaty and no hurt to sit.

>>76769401
don't listen to some retarded bitch.

>>76769613
Aye I do barbell hip thrusts and the good girl bad girl machine :^)

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Where's the fat priest? I have a confession to make. I ate two bars of lindt sea salt chocolate. The family buys this stuff and expects me not to eat it, but fuck man, I dont have the willpower to resist all the time, eventually I break. Lord give me the strength to endure.

was having issues with fasting motivation, ended up eating at maintenance, now i feel better and not having any issues. was i just having a little bit of malnutrition?

>>76769627
I used to always eat stuff that I thought was going to get thrown away. But then I decided it wasn't worth it and not my problem if some retard keeps making food they don't eat let the burden of wastefulness be on their soul not mine.

>>76769627
>shit load of sugar
>shit load of carbs
>shit load of fat
>shit load of salt
yeah gonna add this to my "i want to die at 30" stack

>>76769627
I have two bars of Lindt chocolate on my desk right next to me at all times to willmaxx.
I eat them at two pieces a week.

Anyone do alternate day fasting while ketosis/carnivore? Giving it a try, on day 1

>>76769629
>>76769635
What they do is the buy the 12 pack then just put it in the freezer and eat like 1 bar a week on Friday. I have no fucking clue how they can do that becuase for me just knowing it's in there is temptation enough, then they act like its a moral failing on my part. I asked them to hide it so I dont know its in there but today it was just sitting there on to top rack out in the open. How am I supposed to resist that? I feel like boromir over here and the family is just casually leaving the one ring laying about, and it calls to me. There's another 10 bars in that freezer, I dont think all 10 will make it to Friday. Send me your strength fellow fatties.

>>76769647
I tried doing it and it sucked. Don't get me wrong I lost a lot of weight, but I was hungry as fuck all the time and kept pigging out on guac / milk because i knew I wouldn't be able to eat the next day.
Now I do 5/6 days of keto and one fasting day per week, usually when im busy and have already gone 16 hours without eating.

>>76769627
Yeah sometimes willpower isn't enough, of course an alcoholic is going to drink if you surround him with booze. Talk to your family about hiding it from you if they're going to buy it, or something like that.

>>76769661
go for a walk when you think you'll go for one

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Will running a lot (10km+) and doing 10x10 push ups once every three days save me from skinnyfat hell???

>>76769720
no

>>76769720
Running will just take it all your gains away. Start lifting. Take creatine and enough protein. Become gigachad.

>>76769730
Why not?????
>>76769731
im not trying to become ripped, I did some recomp-ish thing already where I could do 0 pushups but now can do 10x10 consistently, im just tryna look normal as I approach my goal weight (im like 10 kg away)

>>76769627
I ate 3 Ferrero Rochers today. I'm gonna work out extra hard to make up for it

Alcohol is regressing my progress and I need to quit

>>76769752
Just put aside a portion of your day's calories for it, first thing in the morning put on what you'll drink later.

Just ordered some creatine. Looks like its actually GOATed from what I've read online.

I been fooling around lifting weights and gained some strength but seems idiot mode not having creatine from what ive read. seems to make it 10x easier

>>76769782
>creatine
think about your hair bro, it gives like a 10 second boost in strength, are you really willing to go balding for that?

>>76769798
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40265319/

>>76769798
im already a norwood 3 at 30.

I gotta get them gains in before its time to let it go. Im already on finasteride so dont mention that shit. I was a nw3 10 years ago

>>76769805
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40265319/
>45 (fourtyfive) people were tested on
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
this nigga CLEARLY never wrote a scientific paper nor even read it, if its not in the THOUSANDS you can't jump to any conclusion

>>76769602
>>76769613
Good idea. I'd started on those without the weight.

>>76769640
Yeah I have like 2/3 squares of chocolate a day as dessert. A brand that makes smaller squares about half those though.

>>76769824
>also three months of testing
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to short of a time frame, these people were clearly half assing to get their paycheck / diploma for their research

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I've been losing weight on a moderate carb diet (130-150g daily)

>>76769824
>>76769831
Alright you know what? Even if the chance of hairloss is slim, I'm not going to do anything to risk losing my luscious locks, I'll stop taking creatine.

>>76769782
>seems to make it 10x easier
more like 10% easier

>>76769842
its 2025 dude fin + min is a basic noobie tier literal subhuman requirement stack
creatine doesnt do shit to your hair, and you should be on fin + min at the LATEST by 25 anyways

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What do you say are the odds I don't need a skin surgery when I'm lean? I'm 25. I feel like probably a lot of damage is already done. 325 5'10

>>76769840
>150g daily
>"moderate"
that's excessively high. You shouldn't be exceeding 50g of carbs if you're truly going "low-carb"

>>76769881
not gonna sugarcoat it anon, you're gonna have a lot of loose skin when you're at your goal weight. You can recomp and really build on some muscle to make it a bit better, but it kinda is what it is.

I wouldn't be so quick to get surgery though

>>76769881
very unlikely, better odds of just dad bod maxxing instead of trying to be lean

>>76769881
you should be more concerned with your odds of making it to 30

>>76769869
Finasteride sucks because nobody on it wants to admit its fucking them up. Ive been on finasteride 10+ years and I can tell you for a fact its made me depressed.

Everyone else on it would say im hysterical and its just me and not them but its because most idiots dont know what people mean by depressed. It doesnt mean crying, it doesnt mean being upset, it doesnt mean considering killing oneself.

It means you cant be bothered watching tv anymore, you cant be bothered meeting up with people all the time, you no longer want to get that work promotion like a dog chasing one of those rabbits at the dog racing circuit. Most people are already depressed so when they get even more depressed thjey dont have that zest for life to start with so they just feel a bit more blunted than normal but put it down to aging or whatever

but finasteride does cause depression. Its just most men are so unhappy they struggle to know what theyre missing

>>76769907
okay, lose your hair then

>>76769881
U sort of look like a chubbier version of a character im drawing

>>76769911
ive been on finasteride 10+ years and im still on it

I am considering going bald because I would be a multi millionaire by now if I didnt start fin.

Making money is so easy when youre not depressed. On finasteride every day feels like I have to start from scratch. Every day I have to get out of bed with a slight bit of effort. I have to spend a slight bit of effort checking what to do for the day, and the whole day is like a mental endurance test to make it through without giving up. Thats how depressed people function

Before finasteride I would get shit done without even thinking about it.

hadn't broken my diet in 3 months then visited mom and she had baked a pie and i ate half of it because she kept offering me more. I failed you all.

>>76769915
>I am considering going bald because I would be a multi millionaire by now if I didnt start fin.
sounds like you need schizo meds more than anything

>>76769922
you only get a certain amount of Mom-made freshly baked apple pies in your life anon, don't beat yourself up for enjoying it

>>76769923
I was saving 5k dollars a month (saving not earning) in my early 20s it woulda been easy to build on that

>>76767538
I'm still fat frens and progress has been slow, over the past four months I lost like 15 lbs tops. it's gay and I need to speed shit up so I've been getting on the treadmill for like an hour a day but idk it doesn't feel like it's making a substantial difference. I have been taking the weekends off so maybe that's what's doing me in, I guess there ain't no rest for the wicked huh.

>>76769983
slow progress is still progress

i wish rice had protein

i wish rice didn't have carbs

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Cheated on my diet with choco bars and cereal... h8 living with ppl that buy processed things.

>>76770010
Konjac rice

hmmm chicken nuggets have protein

the worst thing about carnivore is that when you feel lazy and don't want to cook you have zero options so you just starve

>>76769889
>I wouldn't be so quick to get surgery though
Whys that?

>>76769922
bring food containers when you go to places that might have food

>>76770056
...but they have a lot of a shitty fat too

>>76767538
Are kettlebell swings enough for a starting exercise to do until I lose enough fat to be able to run and bike outside? I figure since it works cardio and basic muscle resistance it's a good exercise to get a base level fitness right?

>>76770161
You'll probably get bored of doing that, use a treadmill and try to work out every part of your body.

>>76770041
konjac slop is disgusting

>>76770117
because you're young

>>76770104
just eat the meat raw dummy

>>76770171
That's what I've been doing for the past 2 weeks I start my day with 5 sets of 50 reps of swings but I'm wondering if this won't leave me with any muscle imbalance and such

>>76770161
how fat are you? I'm 375 and have been walking a lap or two around my neighborhood every day. Each lap is around a mile/2k steps, and my joints all feel fine. Maybe try doing that first before you start thinking about running?

>>76770191
I keep it all frozen so I have to cook it
fuck am I going to do? eat frozen beef chunks?

>>76770196
umm...defrost it? Are you really this dense?

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>try the stevia protein yogurt
>it tastes great
must suck being brown I guess

>>76770198
>be hungry
>wow better wait 2 hours for my frozen meat to thaw so i can eat it raw

>>76770199
>must suck being brown I guess
luckily lactose-free yogurt is everywhere now, so even brownoids like myself can enjoy them

>>76770200
your microwave has a defrost setting dipshit. Or you can run it under room temp water for 15-20 minutes. Stop being retarded

>>76770193
As long as you enjoy it, also that many sets and reps seems too easy, you should try a higher weight and shoot for 3 sets of 20. This will help build strength as well as avoid destroying your joints through excessive repetitive movements. As for muscle imbalance, you may want to get a set of dumbbells and do curls and rows so your arms and back don't get left out. Though if you're too fat to run and bike (no judgement) I wouldn't worry too much about muscle imbalance yet.

>try counting every single calorie (cooking spray, cream in coffee, even 10 cal energy drinks)
1700 calories is impossible to live off of

>>76770229
Run us through what you're kinds of things you're eating, maybe we can help

>>76770193
>kettlebell swings
seems like a fine exercise

i need to keep fasting

Decided to increase my daily protein intake after talking to chatgpt. He said I'd need 100g of proteins a day on my diet. I was getting around 60-70g a day and now I'll get around 130-140g most day just by switching from chicken nuggets and mock chicken to skinless chicken breasts and turkey or ham cold cuts.

That's about 1,45 g of protein per kg of my body weight.

>>76770259
Good work.

>>76770190
You think the skin would recess more after some time? I can't imagine anyone will want to date me with a bunch of loose skin

>>76770275
Less people will want to date you far retard.

>>76770275
here's the crazy thing about women, WAY more of them than you'd think care more about your personality and how you treat them than how you look. You're never gonna look like a supermodel regardless, but as long as you're well enough put together they look past shit like loose skin or a belly

>>76770278
fat* :^)

>>76770243
>Large Latte from Mcdonalds - 240kcal / 17g protein
>about 1/3rd pound 85/15 ground beef, a salad + dressing, and some rice - 320 kcal / 28g protein + 130kcal + ~120kcal +- 50kcal for cooking spray
>two cups of coffee, 2% milk - 150kcal / 10g protein
>store bought popcorn chicken - 590kcal / 34g protein
>zero sugar protein yogurt - 150kcal / 20g protein
~1750 calories / 110g protein

>drink a liter of salt water
>tummy hurts
so it's like this huh...

>>76770280
Ok but I still just don't really see the downside of a skin surgery if I lose the weight, keep it off for 6+ months and then still have significant loose skin. Cost would be the downside I guess

>>76770302
TELL EM TO BRING OUT THE WHOLE OCEAN

>>76770293
Stop drinking so much of your budget, the breading on that chicken probably isn't worth it, also who eats 50 calories of cooking spray? One spritz from the can I have is like 5.

>>76770305
>One spritz from the can I have is like 5.
they jew those numbers, it says 5 but it's actually like 50

>>76770305
Heh he's spraying it in his mouth. Lewd.

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>one peanut butter sandwich per day
>one glass of milk per day
>one vitamins & minerals pill per day
>26 km of cycling per day
Rate my weight loss routine

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How many calories do you reckon this cut of tuna steak is?

>>76770303
it's your life bro, do what you want. Don't put the cart before the horse though, you still gotta lose the weight. I'd advise at least 6-12 months of maintenance at your GW before you consider the surgery though. You have to be sure you'll NEVER regain a significant amount of weight afterwards or you'll be even more permanently fucked up. Giving yourself that time to ensure you have the proper habits built in at maintenance will be essential

>>76770324
atrophy + t-rex build core

>>76770324
Nigga you NEED to lift fur a good outcome

>>76770332
>>76770333
I just want to go back to being skinny instead of potbellied goblin

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rate my steps/walking regimen for the next 6+ months...pls no bulli...

the numbers are alternating days btw, so for 359-350 I'd do 3 laps one day, 1 or 2 laps the second day, rinse repeat

I lose 5 lbs so im gonna reward myself with some bacon and eggs from iHop

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First day of OMAD -- I feel the Vril rising.

>>76770339
why spend 20 bucks on shitty ihop bacon and eggs when you can buy a carton of eggs and some bacon for 10 bucks and make a bunch yourself?

I don't mind starving but I still drink 2 cans or 1 bottle of coke a day because I'm addicted and this is the lowest I can go sustainably

>>76770293
I never understood why anyone wanting to lose fat would eat any of this... every single item has a better option.

>>76770378
>tfw no longer find joy in food
it's become fuel and i eat w/e just to get my protein

Why not repmaxx at the gym?
Like, I did 20 reps ohp today, increasing one rep per work out.

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>>76770386
You guys across the narrow sea have these, right?

>>76770401
I don't eat any dairy besides ice cream and milk, but I'm sure we have your weird yogurt.

>>76770345
>make a bunch
RetardGOD i have no self control

>>76770410
ahh that's fair, similar issue on my end too

>>76770406
Here a 500g/50g prot container costs around $1.5.

all my thigh fat is going but my belly is still round. I hate my genes

I’m prediabetic but do I stop acting like an overdramatic hypochondriac the moment I unknowingly taste something sweet?

>>76770450
goblin genetics

>>76770454
Fruit is berry good for you

>>76770454
fruits are filled with oxalates, fructose, and anti-nutrients
any benefit they would deliver in vitamins is usually negated by low bioavailability absorption, and even worse they actively damage you through high amounts of glycation

>>76770472
Explain why this is bad. You can't.

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Went grocery shopping today, avoided everything bad and only got what I needed. Then the shitskins at fedex lose my package and my dad asks me to go back to the store to pick up his prescription.
Have to drive all the way back there and this time I'm fuming mad because of the package not my dad. Buy a stupid chocolate cake and a frozen pizza and a package of those little debbie chiristmas trees. Eat the whole box of trees on the way home. Eat the frozen pizza and half the cake before I start feeling like I want to throw up. Covered the rest of the cake in dish soap and threw it in the trash.
Still mad at the world and now mad at myself and feel like shit. I had just broken down into new low too. Going to take at least two days to recover from this.

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>>76770485
eat enough fruits and youll look like this guy
if vampirism is your aesthetic go ahead

>>76770506
When you fall off the horse, just get back on the horse, no big deal brah

I feel so faint :-(. My legs and arms tremor for some reason.

>>76770536
Low blood sugar perhaps, consume something

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>reach healthy BMI
>realize weight loss is pointless and being comfy with food and NEETing is a better life

Anyone else?

>>76770541
I ate a pear it's over.

>>76770293

how many tuna cans do you think you can fill with it?

>>76770550
You're not wrong, and this is part of why most people regain the weight eventually. But most of these threads are first-time weight loss fatties who are still daydreaming that they're going to magically ascend and get pussy because they dropped a few pounds lol even though there's skinny incels everywhere

>>76770550
I like to eat the whole pear/apple seeds core and all. Partially because I'm too lazy to throw away the refuse, but also I like to pretend I am honoring the fruit like the Eskimos honor the seals using every part of them.
>>76770559
Fuck you man I am gonna make it and get pussy and it might be a fat girl or an old lady but I'm gonna bury my penis in her and she's gonna run her tongue on my abs like its a xylophone.

Is it normal for the deficit to go below bmr when subtracting from tdee? bmr is at 1800, and the tdee is barely 2050. This is with accurate body fat percentage (done a bod pod).

>>76770541
I ate some mysterious meat food my mom made me. I am probably just going to sit in my chair and hope my body is eating ketones.

>>76770572
yeah thats why its called a deficit..
your body runs out of energy and takes the rest of the energy it needs from your fat, thus reducing your fat.

>>76770555
1700 calories? it's 160kcal / 32g protein per can
I am not eating 10 cans of tuna a day fuck you

>>76770325
i meant to reply to this anon
>>76770591

>>76770587
Well, I know that. I thought you shouldn't go below bmr, with this though, I basically can't eat a deficit of 1000 calories.

>>76770609
what exactly do you think fasting is

>>76770617
Apologies, asking in the context of more sustainable weight loss. Can't manage the fasting bit and I need to still work for a living so I'd like to not be useless at work thinking of food.

>>76770609
>I thought you shouldn't go below bmr
If you listen to pop-culture advice on losing weight, you're not losing weight, buddy

>>76770626
Eat a small breakfast, eat a small lunch, forgo dinner. This way you lose weight and can remain functional at work.

Im losing a lot of weight lately. Today a girl smiled and waved to me from another car while I was driving. I guess Im becoming attractive again

>>76770641
she was looking at someone else lil bro

>>76770641
Good for you brother

>soups are like 200-300 calories a can
Imagine how much weight you would lose eating these twice a day

>>76770677
i might go for it, i think i have some

>Sober October, Day 1
Today I ate:
2.5 cups of greek yogurt
2 ounces of steak
1 piece of string cheese
4 ounces of smoked ham
2 slices of whole grain bread
1 bag of baked flamin' hot cheetos
7 pieces of sugarfree gum
bunch of black coffee
3 cans of diet pepsi
vitamins

1300kcal. had a bad 24 hours while family came to visit (beer, pizza, burger, fries, cookies, cake, donut). back on track today and hoping to extend sober october to thanksgiving.

>the trick to looking good is to just starve yourself
man this sucks

>>76770715