>Who is /fat/ for?For chubby chompers working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros) or LoseIt (great for both).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 1g per lb of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and burn fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body burning away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat hyper-processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gyno & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>76786752
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Just ordered this https://gymplus.com.au/products/attivo-bench-press?variant=46109050568939&country=AU¤cy=AUD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=17874112925&tw_kwdid=&gad_source=4&gad_campaignid=17874119441&gbraid=0AAAAAC0BZHFBKad42cdbwzCoduXEab4Bf&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgpzIBhCOARIsABZm7vHmZYlVhPg4bG5C9ZD7xvDVImp48IMHo5RWDidLPTp4B7NOuPi2phcaAk0dEALw_wcBHopefully it arrives soon. Just going to no-life the rest of my weight loss and lift weights nonstop when I'm not at work.
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>>76791242 For me it's Fakehttps://youtu.be/ldxyXJlPoaA
>>76791155it's not possible desu, gluconeogenesis is very ratelimited by the liver and myocytes getting the fat-oxidation metabolic phenotype causes them to become endurance fibers, not hypertrophic ones
the fatocalypse has begun
the number on my scale was getting pretty high last week but this week i mysteriously went back down to my usual weight. i read that lifting weights and doing deep stretching can cause your body to retain water and so i think that's what was causing the temporary gain. i'm going to restrict my calories to a 500 calorie deficit for a week and eat mostly lean proteins to see how low i can go on the scale. i like to min/max to see what range i'm in. i've been maintaining for a couple of months but now it's time to get back on the horse. i'm about 25lbs away from my goal weight.thinking of doing daily cardio to peel off those last few pounds. just diet isn't cutting it anymore.
>psmf>yohimbine>fasted>liftingGood thing I'm injured and can't push myself too much, otherwise things would get funny.t. 99.9kg anon from yesterday
>>76791279Good.
Got home from gym just now, made 2 serves of beef stirfry and ate them both. I dont know man, sometimes I think gym is making me eat more than I need, but I am trying to eat healthy, making my own meals, eating real meats, veg etc. I need to do more to lose weight above everything, but I just need to find the right balance.
>be fatty contest participant>post my update this week as usual>forget about the thread>it 404s>check it out on desuarchive>an anon replied to me congratulating me and telling me to keep goingJust wanna say thanks man. That made my day. I VILL keep going.
>>76791291Who even keeps track of these comps anyway
>>76791289it's really smart to eat some kind of protein after you go to the gym. your body needs protein to rebuild the muscles that you just tore to shreds so they can grow. protein is only bioavailable for a short window (4-6 hours, i believe) and so eating it before or after the gym is a good habit. serious bodybuilders eat before AND after the gym. they will eat a bit of carbs so their muscles have some energy for their lifts. i've even read that some freaks will wake up in the middle of the night just to eat some protein so their muscles will always have it available to grow even while they're sleeping.
>>76791298A bot grabs everything. IIRC, fatty jr used to do a write up of how a specific leg went but I haven't seen that since I returned to /fit/.
Upped my Mounjaro to 5mg, but I took it like 4 days early.Hoping it can enable a 50 day fast.
>>76791314Ah copy that
>>76791344Based.
Scale has been an absolute bastard past few weeks. Plateauing badlyhttps://music.youtube.com/watch?v=IHnc60ZOnLo&si=v7NXd7gpZRHZomKU
79,3 kg, 17% bf. Gut starting to go, finally. Just another few kg...
>>76791402Height?
i don't think i can eat only 1200 calories today as well.go on without me, bros.i'll eat 1500 calories today!,
>>76791451192cm.
halfway there
binged on rum and coke again and ordered a fucking curry.i hate my lack of discipline.
>>76791505just buy gin instead of rum which is literally made of sugar, just use zero calorie mixers like la croix
>>76791518dodo you know what distilled spirits are
>>76791505But why thoughAre you going to feel better after eating it? You’re in your current predicament because of actions like this Just walk outside and put it in the bin and you’ll wake up feeling a million times better, I promise
>>76791518>>76791526i don't know frens. i've been trying to quit drinking i went 12 days without them i had this massive feeling in my body that wouldn't disappear until i'd went to the shop and bought booze. i was teetering on the edge for an hour and a half trying to fight it but i gave in.boozing always leads to ordering shitty food for me, even though I knew this beforehand i feel so fucking stupid
>>76791549stock up on 80/20 or even 90/10 ground beef and keep it in the freezer.hell, you can prepare and cook some patties and keep them in the fridge to eat them quickly.
well homie, I was the guy days ago who asked if stair climbing was a decent alternative to more "classical" form of cardio like walking and running, and I can attest that climbing stairs up and down [spoiler]with a 20kg weight attached to my back for good measure[/spoiler] ain't simple.It work but it ain't simple. My thighs feels like cotton candy. Might'ven had pushing it a little too hard because my vision is blurry.
>>76791549i mean last time I tried to kickstart ketosis i had some coke and vodka which worked for the short term but my face went a bit yellow.how do you beat the cravings?
>>76791402>>76791460lol skinnyfat fag
>>76791505>>76791549Listen homie we all have our falling down. It happens, eating is one of the simplest pleasure in life and sometime, we just can't help ourselves. It's a battle everyone will go through and I'm sull you'll eventually get through it yourself. Think of it as little more than a pebble in your way, stays strong. You can make it.>>76791558And please forgive the caveman writing, I both had to learn Engline on my lonesome and, quite franklly, I'm fucking floored.Really envy to hose manga character that look like they have 1% of bodyfat right now.But ever onward, anons.
5'10", 170lbs down from 205 in mid June. 16.8% bf supposedly. Happier, but I could keep cutting, 155-160 would have been my high school weight. I more or less did a crash diet and cardio, and wasn't really paying attention to my macros, and I don't think that'll continue to work as I get leaner (I've nearly plateaued).
>>76791572>>76791566thanks for the kind words anon. I've been beating myself up because i used to be a normal weight. underneath my facial fat i'm a chad with my bone structure with a v shaped jaw. i don't know what I'm doing. I'm utterly lost.
>>76791578Smol
>>76791579If nutrition is your problem, then you simply have to start with that.Take it from someone who learned to cook from a young age: you'll be FUCKING amazed at the amount of "junk food" that trace their origins to perfectly, normal healthy food.Being on a regime doesn't necessarily mean substaining on nothing but grain and yogurt anon, you can make a lot of delicious dish that are both tasty and healthy.
>>76791556Nigga this isn’t a problem that requires food. Dude has serious issues he needs to deal with, getting help away from this board>>76791549Seek help
>>76791211Fatty ContestReodorFelgen69.7kg
>>76791569>skinnyfatig, idc, I just want to run.>fagYeah.
dunno how so many of you gays got fat. i thought gays were about looking fit.
>>76791549>i was teetering on the edge for an hour and a half trying to fight it but i gave inI know that feel. I have both won against it and lost against it. The only advice I have is that when you have full clarity of mind, make it as hard as possible to make that bad choice for when you are at the crossroads again. And also when you're there, get fucking angry at your nigger brain for choosing self destruction. Sometimes that works.
This morning I was the lowest weight I’ve been in 5 years :’)
>>76791211Going from a barbell squat to a machine squat fixed my lower back pain from barbell squats, and im able to go ass to grass on the machine, thank you anon who sugested that I try that!
>>76791289we warned you about the body recomp meme bro
fug bros I am fat and hungry
Fatty ContestThisTimeForSure2593 kg
fuggg
>>76791701great job, anon! keep going!
>>76791891L O N D O N
>be hungry>eat capsicum>get tummy acheWhy am I cursed?
>>76791549>massive feeling in my body that wouldn't disappear until i'd went to the shop and bought boozeThat's called withdrawal, son. Booze is a hell of a drug, and withdrawals can actually kill you. If you want to stop drinking, go to your doctor and talk to them about getting yourself into some kind of detox to make sure you don't die. Maybe also some kind of 12 step AlAnon type program.
>>76791902>capsicumIt is God's punishment for jeetery.
I love women so much it's unreal.. Gonna get lean and get a gf surely.
2 months in, around 1 kilo per week lost. Still feeling great. We are gonna make it bros. >>76791927don't do it for the hoes, those are secondary benefits
I happened to eat very little carbs today, just a small plate of steamed vegs. What are the downsides of having lower carb btw?
Slop ready for consumption.
>>76791789Do you mean hack squat? This is what I use, does the job i rekon
>>76791930no fucking way a "small plate of steamed vegs" is 67g of carbs
>>76791211>Luke 4:4"And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.">John 6:63"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
>>76791938No ur right i just checked the macros and it’s mostly the tomato soup i had in the morning and the afternoon.Anyways, what’s the downside to having low carbs? If i were to keep at it
>>76791929I'm so horny though brother.. so hungry and so horny..
>>76791943Aside from the keto babble, if you lift weights you might feel like shit while doing it. Your body is not retarded and after the initial glycogen/water loss from the sudden carb drop it will restore it because it is extremely useful for burst of force.I recommend you to start eating healthy carbs while you are on a diet to start losing the "sweet tooth", after my first cut doing so I can say the following cuts have been easier. >>76791948Never said you shan't indulge in bitches, just remember that you are losing fat primarily for your own benefit. I can sympathize because on a cut I start craving fat bitches.
>>76791578Lift dumbass
Fatty ContestFatdew121.5kg
Fatty ContestBetterNateThanLever197.8 lbs
Can't do a healthy balance, engaging hyper discipline mode.
>>76791549I was a HC alcoholic (still am, or perhaps I'm not at all, not sure anymore). Red wine. I could have 9 liters of it per week while still going about my everyday life. I'm also a psychonaut, discovering the inner side of existence. Why things happen.I had an interesting year. No psychedelics, only a puff or two from a friends' joint and alcohol. Then I had an awesome weekend last summer. My oldest friend and I were drinking at my place, he ended up staying the night. The next day I ended up drinking with my neighbor. All in all the most positive weekend in a long time with alcohol.Then I had the epiphany. Reaching such a positive weekend with alcohol was indeed rare. So rare infact that I'd rather pursuit only such weekends when drinking. I went the whole next month sober. Then I decided to reward myself with a box of wine, craving it. The weekend I had with it didn't in any way amount to a similar experience than the one prior to it. Haven't had a drink since.After that I started to refine my life even more. I was already eating good and healthy, lifting weights at home and doing cardio. I got a gym membership, started hitting it 6 times a week. The highs I got after some workouts were something different, something no substance had ever delivered before. I started to notice the balance my body had found. I'm allowing myself to drink, but it just doesn't cross my mind anymore. In part I don't want to sabotage that equilibrium, in part I feel I can go without the self-medication aspect, in part I don't want to see my gains wasted. Week after week I'm stronger than ever before. I was about to drink the coming weekend (I'm on a deload) with friends, but I just don't feel like it. I'm charting a window to do it at Xmas, but lets see if that happens.Not telling you how to live your life or anything, just saying how I discovered my bodys' journey and how it seems more interesting than getting drunk the nth time.
Glad I got blackout drunk enough times to completely turn me off alcohol, getting drunk isn't even fun anymore. A nice buzz from a glass of whisky is enough for me.
I almost never drink anymore because I CAN'T get a nice buzz anymore. If I drink like regular beers or something I only get the negative effects without the positive ones, to get and maintain a buzz throughout an evening I have to do like half a liter of hard spirit or equivalent. And the resulting hangover is not worth it. Maybe if I lose weight it will be easier.
I will get lean.I will get abs.I will get a bicep vein.I will grow my wrists.I will touch a vagina with my penis.
>>76792152This except I want to be fucked instead of doing the fucking
>>76792091>After that I started to refine my life even more. I was already eating good and healthy, lifting weights at home and doing cardio. I got a gym membership, started hitting it 6 times a week. The highs I got after some workouts were something different, something no substance had ever delivered before. I started to notice the balance my body had found. I'm allowing myself to drink, but it just doesn't cross my mind anymore.Im going to apply this to my own addictions. Thanks anon.
If I want to learn to jog, but I don't want to lose all my muscles on a deficit can I just eat the equivalent calories I jog each day?
>>76792170If you don't want to lose all your muscles on a deficit you should do strength training
>>76792175I already lift, and eat mostly protein, I'm asking specifically about adding jogging for cardio.
>>76792183Oh then yeah get one of those watches for runners that can track calories burned and just add it onto your daily calorie budget. I add only half of the calories that I burn doing cardio but only because I'm more interested in losing weight than gaining muscle.
There is croissants and biscuit in the break room but I only looked at them and walked away
I took the sv3rigepill and only eat raw animal products now this is meta for weight loss
>>76792170Just do it 4-6h after workouts, and eat something like oat porridge with added onions granolas to replenish the glycogen. It will actually bring synergy, the added bloodflow delivers more muscle repair.Don't set the deficit in stone, it takes some mastery to hit the sweet spot. Listen to your body fatique and cravings.
2 hours til i break my fast
>>76792239Based Cain
>>76792160Kinda big gay.
>>76792206I avoid my break room now
so hungry...
>>76791932>tfw so hungry that i would finish this shit
>finally make it to my refeed day>diarrhea, complete loss of sense of agency, hungry, feel like shit, feel wired>ate banana in slow motion>1500 calories carbs incoming>thank you
>>76792483lemme guess, keto?
i think i overseasoned my chicken breast because now i have diarrhea seasoning is a fucking meme
Had to add holes to the inner side of my belt for the first time.
200grams chicken breast with mashed potatoes my beloved
why the fuck do so many anons here have diarrhea lol
>>76792569it's some kind of coded message. not sure what these retards are trying to say though.
eating apples once a day gave me a flat tummy
>don't think about willies>don't think about willies>don't think about willies>don't think about willies>don't think about willies
>>76792569lack of a loperamide stockpile
>>76792586elaborate
>>76792599big regular shits and makes you feel full so you eat less overall
>>76792521No just a heavy deficit with more fruit than complex carbs. I guess it's technically called carb cycling. I just let my glycogen go down all week until Monday and then do a refeed to get it all back.
>>76792593I forgot fags do NNN too
>>76792569it's the monday after halloween... we all know why...
nothing more disappointing than a cheat meal not tasting as good as you expected it to
>>76792522you dont get the shits from smoked paprika, you get them from chicken sashimi you cooklet
>have small thuna pizza for lunch>feeling snackish around dinner time, down 9 falafel balls with some low fat quark>less than 1500 kcal in total>feeling completely satisfied>still 700 kcal in deficittoday was a good day
>>76792685You do get them from seasoning, not chicken
>>76792522post your seasonings
I was less hungry on 1500 kcal than I am on 2100
>>76791701Keep going fatass. Congratulations
>>76792773to be honest I'm scared to return to maintenance. right now I feel perfectly fine with the stuff I eat, I really kinda don't want to eat more. maybe we'll all have a nice eating disorder at the end of this journey.
I ate the cookies. All of them.
>>76792620Fruit in general is good for this. You should be eating fruit anyway. >tasty>micronutrient-rich>F I B E R
>absolutely PIGGED the fuck out at a buffet yesterday, chowed down like a pound and a half of fatty steak, ribeye, top sirloin, cheese crusted pork, filet mignon wrapped in bacon, etc.>still down .2 pounds this morninggod I fucking love carnivorereclaim your vril
>>76792837Adding cardio makes the shift easier.
>>76792887no I'm going to eat spaghetti and meatballs and garlic bread because I had a killer workout and love carbs
>>76792919I'm already doing cardio (cycling) and calisthenics though. maybe at some point I'll just stop adjusting my caloric target and naturally graduate into a maintenance baseline.
5’10”, 199 pounds.Gained back eight pounds in the last two months. On my way to taking it back down. Less concerned about the number in the scale than bodyfat percentage. The new goal is 15% or less by May next year. That’s six months. I know handheld body fat calculators have a margin of error, right now it’s reading around 20-21%. Think I can do it, fellas?
>>76792886You don’t need fiber if you’re eating foods your body can digest
>5'7">326lbs>43% BF>mfw I will have abs at ~200 pounds if the calculator is accurate
>>76792996Lmao not a chance
>>76792996you already have absunder all the fatyou fat fuck
Remember to get your fluids
>Moved this weekend>Was excited to start going to nearby gym>Fucked up something in my left arm and now it hurts even to just for it to lay in certain positions like while trying to type
>>76793059go to the doctor anon
>>76793067The last time I did that went to sports medicine doctor and they blew me off and said "it was DOMS". I've had problems off and on with this arm and similar pain since freshman year of high school during a basketball game
>>76793075so either stop being a whiny bitch on the internet and get painkillers and work out or go to the doctor's again you fucking pathetic fat piece of shit
>>76792974If you can't do it in 3 months you're an undisciplined piece of shit
>>76793059>>76793075huh, shoulder problem?>>76793083>and get painkillers and work outdo NOT fucking do this, holy shit
I realized I hadn't eaten much meat in the past year or so. I just slaughtered two plain burger patties and I feel like my brain has come back to life.
>>76793098It's something in the part of my arm between my shoulder and elbow. Maybe a part of my elbow even. If I let my arm be limp with my knuckles facing forward, and then I bring my forearm up with my elbow, I feel the pain. Similarly, if I do a thumbs up type position but then I rotate my forearm so my knuckles are facing the ceiling, that also causes the pain.
>persistent mid-back pain magically went away the day I reduced deficit to below 500kcalwhy does the body do this shit?
anytime I remember the book atonement I get very sad for a few hours
It's been almost a month since I started PSMF (1 refeed a week) and although I lost some weight, I don't feel like it put much of a dent. No brainfog, dick works like it always did, no apparent weakness, I can still lift fasted. The most severe sides happened twice or thrice when I got a headache in the evening, couldn't sleep because of it and had to fend it off with ibuprofen. Other than that I'm just fucking bored with my food and quite deprived of dopamine.
Day 14 of going to the gym twice a day on a deficit. Had my refeed carbs, did my 45 minutes max incline treadmill, and my eggs were fucking delicious. As was my apple. Debating on whether to have +1000 cal for my refeed or +1500. Considering I hit the wall really hard yesterday and turned into a literal zombie, considering 1500. I'm lifting balls out tonight anyway. Eh.I'll do 1500 and see what happens this week. I'm looking better and better.
>>76793170>(1 refeed a week)you're below 18-15%bf?
>>76793214probably somewhere around 20% when I started out
>>76793244you don't need reefeds yet, fatty
>>76791549You're addicted anon. Worse, it's a physical dependence.You need to do one of two things. Either set aside large periods of time (months) during the year where you absolutely do not touch alcohol at all and do this regularly for the rest of your life or never touch alcohol ever again. If you don't do either of these the addiction will get stronger and it's going to destroy you in ways you've never thought possible.
>>76791904Nah. Don’t post bad info that when the dude is doing great. If he went 12 days it wasn’t withdrawal and there was no risk of death, lol. He would know by the 2-3rd day if he was in trouble. If you make it past day 5 without getting vivid hallucinations you’re fine. >t. Alcoholic who almost died from withdrawals 3xWhat you had bro was just a psychological routine where you didn’t know what to do now that the booze was gone. You need to fill that void with something positive and healthy. Gym?
>>76792160I REALLY hope you’re brown, anon
>finally get down to the point where I can comfortably say im 16-17% bf (now my plan is to lean bulk the entirety of next year)>realize im the skinniest person in 9/10 rooms I walk into>all of the qt anime chicks dont exist anywhere IRL because they all have 20-30 pounds of excess fat on them>even at gyms 8/10 women I see need to lose like 20++ pounds of fat
>>76793259I don't think it would be a good idea to torture yourself with PSMF w/o pit stops along the way for minimally faster weight loss, especially if you lift hard. It's supposed to be a plan you can actually adhere to, not a penance.
>>76793309That sounds familiar. My standards skyrocketed with lifting. If you drew a graph of both the correlation would be parallel.
>>76793309>>finally get down to the point where I can comfortably say im 16-17% bf (now my plan is to lean bulk the entirety of next year)why are you bulking skinnyfatty?>>76793323it's all about the mindset
HOW THE FUCK DO I STOP ALCOHOL AAAIIEEEE IT'S DESTROYING MY LIFE AND WORST OF ALL MY GAINS
>>76793369Have you considered locking in?
>>76793369Big internal work. Easily combined to the big external work. Both are about discovery, self-knowledge and change. Nohomo.
>>76793434I'm actually alright during the work week, the big falling point is the weekend, when I have tons of time because I finished all my chores like a good boy, and I have the money
>>76791558keep it up, everything gets easier with practice>>76791943> what’s the downside to having low carbs? hard, infrequent poops that hurt your bunghole
>>76793478Literally not a problem. If you’re constipated it’s because you’re eating foods your body can’t digest
>>76793290nope sorry
>>76793369They have lots of drugs and and behavioral therapy specifically to help with this. The GLP1 drugs are also used as an off label treatment for alcoholism if you wanna double dip.But yeah, you might want to lock in before it spirals out of control.
thinking about that fishscale cocaine>>76791566
How accurate are those heart rate apps? I wanna get into zone 2 cardio every 2nd day of the week but im too cheap to buy some actual heart reading device, hoping a simple heart rate app could tell me if im putting in the right amount of cardio for zone 2
>>76793533
>>76791549I find I crave it for a few days and then after the first week it’s like gone. That being said I still drink multiple times a week. Went 2 weeks workout drinking in September. Naturally my best month of weightloss was when I quit drinking for an entire month. I’ve been in this cycle of getting drunk, eating a bunch of shit and then beginning to recover my progress a few days after and then repeating. Shit sucks. I tried weed instead of alcohol and while it helped a bit and I was able to control my appetite I started getting these paranoid episodes so I quit that shit. The only way through this for me is sober
This weekend i hiked a mountain and walked for 19km (12 miles), went up by 1500m (5000 feet)Every single muscle in my legs hurts like hell but at least i lost like 1.5kgs (3lbs) after being at a plateau
>Weight myself>Always the same weight>Body fat percentage always shifting from fat to muscle at a 0.5% per month rateI'm 3% away from being normal. I haven't had a sub 25% body fat since I was 17.
>>76793563Just go by feel. You should be able to hold a conversation in Z2
>feel super good due to progress>go outside >see myself in window reflection >realise I'm still huge and round That sent me crashing back down to reality but the process is working
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>>76793498Fugg. Have you thought about going to fat camp with options to upgrade to the gay conversion therapy package?
>>76791211Anyone do alternate day fasting or rolling 48s? I did a couple and it's cool to see noticable changes after just a day or two
>>76793633Don't worry my weight loss is coming along nicely, I'm almost down 30 pounds from my heaviest this year, just 100 more to go and I'll be a beautiful and lithe twink.
was off diet for a 4 days, but i didn't binge eat but ate really shitty on Halloween and the day after (and didn't really watched my calories though)>im up 20 pounds>whatlets see how long it takes me to lose most of what i believe to be mostly water weightat most i think a couple pounds or so is real fat.
>>76793668>10 kg in 4 daysholy shit, are you sure you didn't eat "really shitty" 4 days straight
>>76793646Be sure to turn as many brown men gay as you can anon. Godspeed
>>76793668How AF do you gain 20lbs in 4 days. How much do you eat? How much do you weigh?
>>76793675just too much alcohol i think.I've never gained that much weight so fast, so im thinking its mostly bloat like crazy.but its fine, i should be able to lose this stuff pretty fast.when i get on track i lose about a half pound to a full pound a day when things are going good.(lost 27 pounds total last month)so I'm not worried.
>>76793668It takes years of overeating to get fat so 4 days is nothing. It's actually pretty difficult to gain weight because you have to stuff your face with disgusting amounts of food on the regular to do it.>20lbssalt, sugar and carbs all make your body hold water due to osmotic effects. If you're not a turbo giga fatty i'd get your blood sugar levels checked because 20lbs of pure water weight is way more than normal and a sign of the beetus. Actually, do it anyway because either way it's bad.
>>76793691well it was my first time in over a month where i was off diet and not eating my diet of rice and meat. (also i was in some what of a water cut before halloween and my weight was down)so im not worried.but damn it was a little shocking seeing 20pounds up(also this was after dinner before starting my fast tonight)
>>76793668oh shit i also forgot to say that i have been taking alot of ibuprofen because i drank 2 days and had a bad hangover on both, (ibuprofen makes you retain water)
>>76793677But I don't wanna do that I want to turn other lithe and beautiful twinks on, preferably white or asian
>buy some cheap shit beef sausage that was BOGO at my local supermarket>170 calories per serving>6g protein>it's literally 85% fatfucking hell, im on carnivore and even that's too extreme for meeven I still have a protein goal to meet nigga
>>76793369Mirrorjade never did nothing to nobody. Albaz is a good boy. But I wish you luck and I wish I had useful advice to give you.
>>76793726mix it with some really cheap ground meat to make the meat palatable
>>76793726Yeah processed meats are so ass for protein, probably because they fill it with as little actual meat as possible in order to produce more for less cost.
>>76793726What fucking breed is this cat, id bet money every photo of its perfectly emotive face is photoshopped, is there a source to the owners account or someting i need to figure out if this is a breed specific smugness or if this cat is deformed/edited
I went off the rails for 25 days straight. Eating essentially whatever I wanted every day. Gonna diet for another week before I weight myself again. What you don’t know can’t hurt you…
>>76792887>shit twice already today>feel it coming for a third timefuck
>>76791549I don’t have advice for you I just want u to know you’re my fren and I believe in you
>>76793827I had this shit that basically pressed right on my vagus nerve, I instantly busted out into a cold sweat, I was about to passout, and then I pushed one more time and a turd flew out and all my symptoms went away instantly.
>>76793569>The only way through this for me is soberClassy and respectable. I don't know why, but being at the gym for a long session on Saturday, last workout of the week almost at an end, the sweat on your shirt starting to be dry from the hardest part & a few excercises remaining, the clock on the wall showing 9:12 pm... a few pretty women women, a neet and a few normies there all doing their thing. It's so silent, intimate. After the last sets a hot shower. I have this dressing routine at the gym I do after a shower. Routines become rituals. That all in its' abundance feels like being in the moment. And it's addictive. So maybe I do know.
>>76791452i ended up eating 1262 calories.
>>76792551nicebelts are cut, anon.
>>76792627they do?why?
>>76793854I used to get them pretty regularly after a night of hard drinking.
Breaking through 210lb is coming with extreme hunger. I’ve never felt this hungry and I’ve lost 100 pounds so far.I’m trying strategies where I offset carbs to the end of the day. But it’s hard. It’s so exciting to wake up and eat a bagel.
every how long, if ever, one should eat at maintenance instead of a deficit while losing weight?30% bodyfat.or is it just a preference thing to be able to keep going?
>>76792996bruh, i'm at 190lbs same height and abs are nowhere to be seen.i used to be 170lbs an only the top 2 were visible with very good lighting. the 2 in the middle were less visible but their shade was there.
god i broke down and bought an overpriced $7 bag of cornchips from the corner store that overcharges like crazy because its an isolated community, because I remember them being really good, and it was such a huge mistake. they were mediocre at best and towards the end of the bag they became kinda gross and now i just feel disgustinga wierd thing ive noticed with binge eating is that you always imagine things being so much better than they actually are, I constantly end up fantasizing about indulging in something but it virtually never turns out as good as i imagined. yet every time i do the same thing, imagine how good it will be to binge on x or y thing.
I finally bought a scale.The last time I'd been to my PCP, I was at 380.I weighed myself today.425.Holy fuck. I'd become so blind to the changes in my body that I thought I looked the same as I did then.I'm a disgusting beast. No wonder my girlfriend left me.I can't believe I let it get this out of hand. I need to make serious changes starting tonight.
>>76793914>I'd become so blind to the changes in my body that I thought I looked the same as I did then.this is exactly what happened to me. its no wonder i started to feel so unwell all the time
>>76793914>425lmaoI hope the pizza parties and donuts were worth the irreversible damage youve done to your bodydon't even try to cope or diet, start taking mounjaro tomorrow and never hop off that shit. youre unfixable.
I'm so tempted to get delivery
>>76793880Hmm... if you start going to the gym & do cardio it makes sense to go near the maint to recomp. A neat way is to calculate your BMR based TDEE and eat the calories of one activity level lower.That in a way is still a deficit, but tied to the maint and not fixed on a certain number.>>76793892A big element of highs is freedom of mind, or atleast the illusion of control. When you know deep down you're doing something wrong it eats away the edge of the hedonistic deed. What is the wrongness is a very subjective thing.>>76793930>pizza partiesImagine huge Eyes Wide Shut type cabbalah orgies, but with pizzas instead of sex.
>>76793930You're right, anon.I am probably mentally ill and there's no fixing that.
>>76791211>decide I'm sick of my shitass diet>cut all convenience foods, cook some stuff for myself>down 2.5lb in two weeksI mean I expected it to work a little but starting instantly is a pleasant surprise. Although I feel like I'm still eating plenty so I'm sorta scared of what I'll have to do to eventually gain some weight back.
>>76793584keep it up until 15% then consider going to 12% or just stopping.
>>76793599don't stop feeling good. you're progressing instead of getting worse.
>>76793892>cornchipsshould have been fritos flavor twists
>>76793890You're missing>43% bfThat's still ridiculously high, but if the calculator is right, 186 pounds of me is lean mass. Assuming all my weight loss is blubber, at 200lbs, I would have 14lbs of fat on my body. 14/200 is 0.07. I would be 7% body fat.
>>76793979you have a 100% bf chance with me baby
>>76793954you can learn to live w mental illness, its not over.i wish u luck w ur weight loss anon, maybe even consider joining the fatty contest if its the sort o thing to help motivate you
>>76793914the important thing is that you recognized the need for change.and you bought a scale! that's the hardest step!get a nutrients tracking app and you're good to go. i use MyNetDiary because it doesn't require an account but there are many better apps that require accounts.calculate your TDEE from the OP.
>>76793979>186 pounds of me is lean masslmao
>>76793979lean mass is not the same as fat-free mass
>>76793979you don't just lose pure fat when you lose weight. this is why strongmen are massive and don't bother to trim the fat.this is why massive muscles with low bodyfat% is a tell for someone on gear.
Has anyone actually sought counseling for body dysmorphia? I know that my body fat percent is healthy. I know that my weight is healthy. I know that I fit in small clothes. Sometimes I actually see it, I feel like I look fit and everything looks the way that it should, and then other times I swear I just still see that big fat blob and I feel like I need to lose weight. I feel like I'm too close to overweight. I keep getting this anxiety that I'm only about 10 pounds away from overweight and that means I need to start going back on a cut. But I'm still getting comments all the time about how I'm too small and I'm barely a person and more like a child. I know that some of this is entirely in my head but I'm afraid that if I actually seek out counseling I'm just going to get some fruit loop that's going to tell me that I actually need to be fat and gain all the weight back and be obese again.
>>76794047height? weight at ur largest? weight rn?post physique to let us see what youre working with,
>>76794049I really don't like posting the loose skin on shit days like today, here's current stats and at highest I weighed ~82.1kg/181lbs and was too ashamed and unknowledgeable to even take additional stats. Lowest I hit was 17% body fat around 49.8kg/110lbs but I was constantly told I looked unhealthy and boney
>>76794074I got some loose skin for you. iykwim
>>76794047post body (tits)>>76794074>I was constantly told I looked unhealthy and boneylift weights.
>>76794047I haven't sought conceling, but I did go through an eating disorder as a teen, and I have somewhat similar experiences to yours, albeit not from being too big in the overweight way, rather I forget I'm a giant. I saw the HBO documentary that came out in the early 2000s. Watching the women in it made me notice certain body parts, personality quirks and life habits I just detested. I then sought the same in my own sex, found what the similar things were and reflected on them. If I wanted similar traits, how I felt about them and if I exhibited any actively. That helped to understand if I was dysmorphic or not. Basicly what my ideal me is.
>>76794074Please respond, baby girl. I'll take care of you, in every way.>>76794076
>>76794076Sure I know what you mean :^D Most anons here that actually lose a substantial amount of weight or who were fat for most of their lives have loose skin. I know it's not exactly something to be ashamed of because plenty of anons here with way worse than me have posted but you know, some days are easier than others. Luckily, it has gotten better the longer that I've kept it off. It's not nearly as bad as it was when I first hit goal. The skin on the underside of my arms and my inner thighs doesn't sag or hang or have that testicle look that my abdomen does. It's just softer, looser. It doesn't quite feel like fat. It just feels very soft, which isn't a huge problem for my inner thighs as much. It's pretty hard to notice and it just makes me look more plush in a place that's more acceptable to be plush. My upper arms bother me a lot. But from everything that I've seen, a brachioplasty is excruciatingly painful and leaves absolutely horrific scars, so I'll just live with my arms being a little bit pillowy.
>>76794094Yeah. I've lost 30kg so far and I've got another 40kg to go, so I've plenty of loose skin. That's what I meant.
>>76794094soft... and smol...
>>76794089You really don't want to see them and I'm doing you a favor by not showing them. I was lifting weights more consistently at that time than any other time, I stopped doing all upper body routine when I kept getting a lot of comments that I had the upper body of a man and I didn't like that. So I've been working to atrophy my upper body more. You could still see all the bones in my chest because I didn't do enough chest exercise, but at that point I realized that it wouldn't help and would just make me look MORE like a man.
>>76794102Listen babygirl, you're beautiful, no matter what anyone says.
>>76794090And ideal me is just difficult when there are certain things that I might really want for myself, but I can't achieve it without either surgery or just waiting all the time for skin to retighten. And there's no guarantee that it'll ever be tight like it's supposed to again. I'm mortified of the idea of surgery, So the next best thing that my mind goes to is just lose more weight and surely at some point it won't be so bad. Realistically I know that that's not true, if anything that might make it look worse because then depending on how much weight I actually lose I might start to look like now I actually am sagging everywhere.
>>76794108You didn't post the full pasta and you didn't post the picture. I do not accept this.
>>76794102>I stopped doing all upper body routine when I kept getting a lot of comments that I had the upper body of a mani bet the ones that told you this are disgusting fatslobs.you can work your upper body just fine. just work your lower body more to keep the hourglass figure prominent.
>>76794113No pasta. Just honesty.
A WOMAN WITH A MAN'S SHOULDERS AND VEINY ARMS DON'T LOOK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
LOOK AT THOSE MANLY SHOULDERS I MEAN DON'T LOOK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SHE KILLS MY BONER
I DEFINITELY WOULDN'T WIFE THIS!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
the schizo is loose
>>76794132>picrel>>76794110Isn't it odd that we don't usually see the ideal mirror image of being a different race etc., which would be truly impossible, but we see things a scalpel could carve.
what the schizo
>>76794115Sorry, I had to go looking for relevant images, and then I figured it would probably be more holistic to just show a collage, including pump no pump and plain clothes. I've gotten more comfortable wearing tight fitted shirts because I realized that my loose skin is still flat enough that it just looks like maybe a tiny bit of tummy. Nobody really knows. But for the most part, especially at this time, I was just still more comfortable wearing baggy clothes, which honestly might have contributed to people telling me that I looked like I was drowning in clothing and skeletal. The full pump on my shoulders and arms definitely made me look way wider at the top than I am. I loved how strong I looked, not the commentary.
>>76794143I think I could imagine myself to be a different race pretty easily, but I know that when I'm imagining what surgical procedures could do for me, I'm imagining the best case scenario. Not what would realistically happen, because I have no idea what would realistically happen. There's a chance that I look exactly how I should, there's a chance that something goes wrong and I end up with lymphatic damage so one side of me is permanently inflamed and puffy. God forbid I end up lumpy and bumpy from internal scar tissue, or the scar doesn't heal properly and it's huge and wonky. Or it's just fucked up, and they have to do more surgery to fix it, or it just doesn't look the way I imagined it would look. I definitely don't look the way that I thought I would look when I first started losing weight. I didn't think my tits would completely go away. I imagined a cute 16-inch waist and 40-inch hips. Reality is much more disappointing.
>>76794158you're even smaller than i expected. keep lifting.do hip thrusts for a round ass. idk if i would recommend squats. they're hard to get right and might fuck up the lower back.i hear the split squats are easier to get right and since you're using lower weight, less chance of back injury.i don't do leg workout because i have massive lower body.
>>76794171A thing that will change your body by a lot if you'll ever go down that road is pregnancy.
>>76794202very smooth, anon. fuck her well.
>>76794158tranny proportionsyou don't even read as woman to me until you pull your kirby shirt tight at the end
>>76794158You gotta stop dressing like a dude, man.
>>76794225Lol. Lmao even. She is pretty, more than that I like her writing and mind from the whole hour that I've known her anonymous online persona. The thing is I'm not that easy.
>>76794185My ass IS rounded because I already have a solid lower body routine and visible quads, the upper body is what really killed my femininity. That's also when I was 110 or 49.8 kilograms. I'm sure that you can read and see that my statistics don't seem that different whatsoever at present. So not much has really changed in terms of how I look, but things like today I feel like it is. I feel like I'm way fatter. I feel like because I'm not in the absolute dead center of what is considered the healthy weight range or on the lower end that I'm pretty much fat. Close enough to fat. I have nightmares that I'm shaped like a circle again. I'll start the restriction protocol and then after a day or two, I realize that I don't look like what my nightmares tell me I look like and I feel perfectly fine and realize I don't actually need to go back into the hardcore deficit. I don't need to eat 800 calories for the day. I'm fine and I can chill out. It's just that it keeps coming back. I want it to just stop. I want to be able to just be comfortable and not constantly bugging out about my weight and if I'm fat again. But I've heard so many horror stories, especially for women, that if you go to counseling for things like this they just tell you to get fat again. They just tell you that you have anorexia, it's a serious problem and you need to start funneling melted ice cream into your mouth ASAP.This is current.>>76794202I have two children. This type of thinking does not work on actual people because it doesn't actually widen your hips that much, especially if you already have wide enough hips to pass a child. It will not change your fat distribution and it won't matter if you're low enough body fat. Your tits will probably shrink back down to normal size. It is what it is.
>>76794158>upright rowthis shit fucks shoulders up.
>>76794231maybe shes a lesbian
Im just gonna come out and say it. Girls should not go below 20-25% body fat.
>>76794240I'm at 20 and i look like shit
>>76794231When you're all flat except for your ass, which your ass doesn't show from the front, pretty much everything looks like men's clothing. Especially if you don't like tight clothing. The black long sleeve and gray sweatpants became my go to anytime the weather permitted (still is), because it actually does make me look decently feminine. In the summer, shorts definitely made me look very feminine because hairless legs and that quad plus fat. Being in motion helps with baggy stuff, the wind pressing clothing flat up against me made me insecure for a while, but I've gotten used to the idea of tighter clothes that actually fit better.
>>76794234>and visible quadsi'm not seeing them.in a pants like this, i'm not good enough to guess what is fat and what is muscle.i'll give you your calves. those are hard to be fat.desu, i see nothing wrong with wanting to be in tiptop shape. especially for an ex-fatty. it gives you more room to wake up if you ever start getting fat again.why not go back to being 100% fit and go all in on lifting and maxxing protein?>I have two childrenyour husband should be very happy to have a fit wife after 2 kids. start lifting.
>>76794235It was a three point motion where I'd start with that row like motion bringing fists up to my sternum, then front raise, the lateral raise. Never felt any pain in my joints, it just made my arms burn like a son of a bitch
>>76794240>girls can be at 30% BF and still look good>men have to go all the way down to fucking 10% to be top tierOnce again us MEN live on hard mode...
>>76794234Ah, I suspected you're a mother, but wasn't sure. My point had to do about the changes pregnancy poses to a body, some permanent, others not so. But since you've gone it already it's moot.
>>76794255>assuming she has a husbandGirls should be with girls
i'm almost 4'10" at 117lbs how long should it take for me to loose 17-25 lbs? I got a lil belly rn and my face is a lil chunk :[
>>76794273she has 2 kids, anon. how can a woman have kids without a husband?
>>76794255He's happy as long as I'm happy, but has admitted that he prefers me at my current weight. He defended against all of the "bro you're fucking a man", but I don't like that. The same way that it totally didn't bother him to get the "lol fat wife pigfucker" comments when I was fat. I mind, I care, I do not like the idea that he gets ridiculed because of how I look. I know that if I really go past my fittest point, no matter what he says about wanting me to be happy, he would not be attracted to me if my upper body got any bigger than that. And I don't want that. I do not want to be unattractive to him no matter how pleased I am with looking lean and strong. That's not worth it to me. I just want to be capable. I just want to know that I can carry my children out of the house if there's a fire when he's not home. I just want to know that I can handle myself and I don't need him to do everything for me. I just want to know that I look decent.
>>76794278RetardGOD maybe she was artificially inseminated with feminine semen
>>76794276Wow anon im very close to ur height, sadly even at sub 90 lbs, i still got lower stomach fat so you might have to lose a bit more than 25lbs if u want to rid urself of having a belly, that is if ur genes are as shit as mine.
>>76794281you could use a bit more quads imo. maybe it's the non-professional quality pic but i'm seeing fat not muscle even though your calves are pretty well defined. idk.>no matter what he says about wanting me to be happy, he would not be attracted to me if my upper body got any bigger than that. this is your assumption. what if he was a man of culture and appreciate muscley lean women?idk how you should go about pulling the truth from him.all in all, focusing on hip thrusts and some exercise for your quads won't go wrong imo.
>>76794263Okay, I'll give in to Curiosity. What tipped do you off? But yeah I mean, best case I could probably make if I wanted to try and change anything with a third pregnancy would be the breasts, and that would require long-term breastfeeding as long as I possibly could, and doing the slowest wean ever to try and maintain that increased size, but that doesn't work for everyone, and I never had any such luck. It would really be testing my luck a third time. I've never actually seen a woman's body change that much post-birth unless she had very narrow hips to begin with, or she gained a ton of mammary tissue. Weight gain is just weight gain. Either she already had the genetics where it would all go straight to her ass and tits or she didn't, pregnancy is not going to affect where you put on that fat.
>>76794288No, he did say he'd still LOVE me but he wouldn't be as attracted to me. LEAN MASS ASIDE You got me going off on a tangent. The actual question was how do I deal with these feelings that I'm getting fat again and I need to go back to the very lean weight?
If I was married I wouldn't even care about my bodyIts not like they can legally leave you anyway
>>76794281Hey do you chicks have to worry about the sneaky urine drip after pissing like we do, I mean, you guys can't shake it out like us so how the fuck do you handle it
>>76794294i told you it's ok to go back to lean to have more room to wake up if you ever started to get fat again.
>>76794295Bad spouse.>>76794298No we wipe our cunts
>>76794289Not any single thing. The self-awareness of yours, the journey you've been on, experience I percieve from you. I knew you were a woman from your first post. Just stuff I intuit.
>>76794299Hmm. Even if if I look boney and boyish? What if even then I still feel fear that I actually look fat and the numbers are lying to me?
>>76794295should've read the 18% body fat requirement in the prenup buddy, you even wake up without abs that I can lick, you're getting the fuck out of my house
>>76794309>Even if if I look boneylift>and boyish? refer to my images meltdown posting
>>76794303The urine drips even after wiping, that's why it's sneaky Holy shit im talking to a woman who has urine stains through her undergarments at this very moment
>>76794286idk if going lower than 90 would be okay, i got that womb/uterus pooch i know what you mean argh
>>76794319>>76794309>What if even then I still feel fear that I actually look fat and the numbers are lying to me?tell your husband to comfort and tell you you look fit every day and every night or come here and post your pics and anons, including me, will tell you you look perfect.
>>76794319I don't think you understand how hard it actually is to put on lean mass as a foid and how long it took to get to THAT place, or how long it would really take to put on enough mass that I would no longer look bony. Not to mention, that would require a bulk cycle, which I really really really really don't want to do.>>76794320??? For who? Who just keeps leaking piss? Discharge is not piss. If you are leaking piss you have a type of pelvic floor dysfunction. You should not piss unless you mean to, not sneezing laughing or laughing should make you piss yourself.
>>76794325I don't like pestering him to tell me I'm pretty. It feels annoying and too needy. Body posted ITT because I do understand that you can't accurately know whether it's body dysmorphia or I'm really fat and just lying about the numbers unless I prove it. I know that I'm not perfect because perfect doesn't exist and anyone telling me perfect just wants to pat my ego and get something from me.
>>76794327don't do a bulk cycle. don't even take protein shakes. you need to chug water like crazy if you hop on them.just eat healthy, maximize proteins and lift.for me personally, i prefer a bony girl to a fat one.bony girls are still soft because of their skin and you can throw them around.back on topic, i see it as normal for an ex-fatty to be hyperfixated on their weight and looks because they dread going back to being fat and having to go through the process again.at least try going with it and get lean again and see if those feelings go away.if they don't, i fear docs would put you on meds and fuck you up.>>76794334what's the point of having a significant other if s/he won't tell you you're pretty and s/he loves you every day and every night?>I know that I'm not perfect because perfect doesn't exist and anyone telling me perfect just wants to pat my ego and get something from me.anons, including me, would tell you you're perfect so you'd post more pics.careful because it leads to the onlyfans rabbithole.
>>76794334Goddamn you suck
>a girl enters the threadthe lord of all derails
>>76794372>ex-fatty talking about fat in a fat thread>omg derailed!
>>76794357Lean maxxing it is then. After you've been together for so long, you don't really get compliments every single day and what I mean is I don't want to pester for it either. Tell me I'm pretty. Tell me I'm pretty. Tell me I'm pretty. That just comes across as really annoying... Just saying you look good when you look good is fine or when you see them out of the shower of course you're going to say they look good. When they're trying on clothes you say they look good. When you're going out somewhere you let them know they look nice. Or maybe at the end of the day say you looked nice today. But asking for it is just kind of begging behavior. You shouldn't have to beg. It should just be given. But I also know that external validation won't fix the problem. Even when a bunch of people were telling me that I looked way too skinny, all I could think is "okay chubbys, I'm sure I do look skinny compared to you, but that doesn't mean I am." I also remember how many people told me that I looked fine or looked great when I was straight up super fat and as soon as I dropped below obese, suddenly I looked so much better and I was "finally person shaped." I know they'll lie to me.
>>76794376notice how the rest of us can do that without making a narcissistic collage of our selves to post?
Making progress, a little behind schedule but not bad so far. Aiming for 2.1lbs per week
