Is processed high protein (assume a protein bar) better than non processed low protein (such as a couple bananas) for weight loss? Assume the same calorie count

>>76855091
Its not worth pondering

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i hate fatties so much its' unreal

>>76855091
everyone is different
>eat it
>gauge how you feel a few hours later
>take note of it

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>f27
>decide to no longer be a fatty at the beginning of the year
>calorie count and track protein, with a pretty strict limit from february to september
>do daily exercise except for rest days once a week
>get bmi down from 27.6 to 20.4
>decide to stop losing more weight because I reached my goal weight and wanna have a bit of a buffer from developing anorexia that mom has struggled with all her life
>it's been almost three months since I stopped losing weight
>kinda lost all of my ass in the process
>belly is still here (pic related)

is surgery the only option left here or what do I do to get rid of this stupid fucking shit, I just wanna be able to wear a fuckin bikini and not look like I source my daily protein from egg mcmuffins

>>76855055
Bang maid

>>76855091
Protein bar is a candy bar. Banana is a fruit. Don't compare such.

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>>76855114
I just keep dieting, I literally eat less than 1000cal and I'm 6ft tall. Some anons said I have loose skin?

How do you guys feel about anchovies?
I think they're fantastic, and I particularly enjoy them on a BBQ meatlovers pizza.

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>>76855091
proteins benefits are mostly outside of weight loss. when we lose the weight we dont want to look like pic related, so you eat high protein and do some weight lifting
>>76855114
intense bicycle 2 hours a day for 2 months

>>76855114
>>76855121
You have a beer belly... hmm. Have you had children yet?

>>76855114
looks like fat
if you want a nice beach body then you should focus on building muscle. squats, lunges, and leg curls will rebuild your ass.

>>76855121
no muscle, no metabolism. Thanks for playing

>>76855127
Won't that make me hungrier?
>>76855129
Ive never had kids
>>76855131
I don't wanna get bulky, I do work lower body but I still lost all my ass
>>76855132
Its actually because I got fat in school and have bad genetics?

>>76855114
>>76855121
>>76855143
This is not me!!! I'm >>76853979

My average caloric deficit over all these days has been 888 kcal. I don't have much weight so I don't weigh anything, but I've felt that my clothes fit looser.

>>76855147
do 2 hours of intense bicycle a day anyway

>>76855152
I already am extremely fit and I don't know why I have this tummy.

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so hungry...

i did 1,200 calories yesterday without starving myself.
maybe one can indeed get used to eating less

i ate 2 dunkin donuts today for the first time
but at least im not in burgerland so i guess they dont have to much sugar in them
sorry

Am I insane, why an I less hungry on gym days

>>76855143
>Its actually because I got fat in school and have bad genetics?
getting fat young is a somewhat true meme, but that's not what's being pictured. Genetics is a meme in this instance, you're six feet tall.

>I don't wanna get bulky, I do work lower body but I still lost all my ass
this is exactly the mindset I'm honing in on because I've seen it before. Most women have it: they're allergic to weights, hyper allergic to upper body work, eat way too low a deficit, build no muscle, have a shitty basal metabolic rate, feel like shit, then get stuck in a pit where nothing seems to work.

putting on muscle is hard, doubly so for women, and it gets harder and harder the more you put on. If by some chance you manage to time travel a year into the future and wake up with a body that's too muscular, you can just do nothing it all disappears. Or eat too little again and you body will cannibalize it.

Workout your whole body, eat a reasonable deficit where you get all your protein, then see the results. This eating disorder shit people do is never maintainable.

>>76855147
take my advice whoever you are

>>76855164
exercise is an appetite suppressant. Yes glp1s are giant scams.

>>76855164
No, you're not insane. There are plenty of things that are true for a lot of people, but not all. For some people, they eat a plain apple, and they feel completely satisfied. For me and others, eating a plain raw apple or plain carrot sticks results in a serious sugar spike and then an insulin spike, and instead we end up feeling way more hungry than if we'd eaten nothing at all and waited for the hunger to go away. For some people, intense exercise makes them absolutely ravenous, and they feel like they're dying of hunger. For others, intense exercise gets rid of their appetite, and they end up having a problem where they cannot eat enough. Depending on your final goal, this is a very good thing for you to have.

>>76855165
Women are rarely capable of actually getting fit. Even most female fitfluencers use gear and ozempig for the most minimal gains because hard work is hard.

>w*men

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I think my actual start weight was last week or two of August but happy I'm closing in on 300lb now. Would like to be low 130kg (285-290) by end of the year.

>>76855209
bravo anonn ur actually making it, fastly too.

Bros can you help me I feel like I'm dying
>been eating low cal for a while, but was taking a multivitamin and electrolyte supplement
>past 2 days I was on a break
>yesterday I think I ate over 3000 kcal, but whatever, today I'll eat low cal
>haven't eaten breakfast and was sipping on my electrolyte drink
>suddenly my chest hurts and I'm lightheaded
>drink a bit of electrolytes, feel even worse
>drink normal plain water, feel slightly better but then I get nauseous
>still lightheaded, shaking, cold, and want to throw up
what do I do

>>76855209
why is your spreadsheet formatted like that? wouldnt it be better to just have a row for every day?

>>76855121
>>76855239
Lolololol she really thinks if she loses more fat she'll die of starvation

>>76855248
Lock in son

>>76855209
meanwhile I've lost since august... a little over 10 lbs.
you're putting me to shame, good job bro

>>76855121
>that torso
>6ft tall
???

>>76855268
She's still in her thread if you actually want to take it up with her. She insists that we're all just a bunch of meanies and shes telling the truth. 6'0" 150lbs BMI 20 and 25% body fat

>>76855278
I once dated a girl that was terminally online and she would lie about the most insignificant things. Its crazy how some girls just crave attention.

>>76855278
>check thread
>not a single timestamp
it's probably a LARP

>>76855290
I get frustrated anytime females ask for weight loss advice or help or tips because they don't actually take any of it or they'll say that they're trying and when you actually ask them they'll either lie to your face or tell you such a ridiculous truth it's absurd. A female that I unfortunately had to interact with insisted that she really wanted to lose a bit of belly fat. It wasn't even that much, maybe like five pounds is what she wanted to lose. And at least she was honest with her diet. It was pretty much all candy and bread, that's all she ever ate. She would drink juice and soda and say the soda was a treat and juice is good for you so it's not that bad. Others would just lie and then I'd catch them later eating only candy and bread and ask why they didn't say they eat that. "Oh, this is a snack, it doesn't count!" Or you give the actual advice, and they say it's too hard, and that sounds extreme, or it sounds like a good way to get anorexia.

>>76855298
They have zero control over themselves I find. My sister constantly talks about how hungry she is, and I believe her. She'll even eat similar stuff to me, but then ruin it with a snack or late night meal. I get those urges too, but I can push them away, she can't.

>>76855290
>some

>>76855305
Is it really hunger though, or is it just this inability to handle mild discomfort?

>>76855298
Women and some people on /fat/ share certain correlating behaviors on self-deception.

>>76855253
That's just how I do it
>>76855232
Thanks
>>76855265
That's still good, you probably don't weigh near as much as me lol

>>76855315
good question
a quick google search shows they do have higher levels of ghrelin
also she has said that she felt hungry during dancing, which was odd to me because exercise makes me less hungry, and there's a study to support that
https://academic.oup.com/jes/article/8/11/bvae165/7828055

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Day 2 of maintenance
I didn't gain weight
So far a success
Sundays shall be my fasting days from now on

>>76855336
See >>76855171
Some people get hungrier, some lose appetite.

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>>76855422
yeah but since we're siblings I think we have close genes
it's likely a gender thing

>>76855428
Is that really a better excuse, though? How do female athletes exist and how did normal weight females exist in the past if they've always just been hungry all the time?

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just started taking creatine today, I take nothing else
I should expect my weight to go up and then back down correct?
200lbs 5'10" , eat about 2000 cal/day
I lift (squats, deadlifts, bench press) and go for ~4mi walks about 3x a week

>>76855321
oh you're fat and retarded

>>76855438
I think women are just more influenced by their circumstances. So female athletes would have a specific lifestyle or social group that would keep their weight low. A coach, for example. On the other hand, it would be next to impossible to get a female office worker who has fat friends to lose weight, unless someone got involved into her life and would personally micromanaged her.

Also if you think about it, walking is basically exercise for someone who is fat. So fat women are constantly "exercising", and constantly more hungry. If they finally get thin then their hunger will go back to normal.

That's my pet theory for now.

>>76855446
yeah up to a 5lb increase

>600kcals breakfast
>still hungry
it's over

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Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 96.2 kg

Overall Progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baBVGXfOBXA

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Hey guys so far i've gone from 234lbs down to 199lbs. I'm just curious how much does deep frying your food add to calories? Like let's say I made some chicken katsu all I used was egg and season breadcrumbs. Then I fried it in some veggie oil. I'm guessing it adds at least the same amount of calories the chicken breast has? Like I weigh the chicken afterwards and it weights 150grams I should add an extra 150grams for the oil right? I tried looking every on google but no where I could find an answer how much frying food in oil gives in calories.

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>be me
>ketochad
>can't find full fat + stevia greek yogurt anywhere
>or full fat mozzarella
the jews did this to me

>>76855506
The best thing that you can do is make an overestimate on how much possibly could have been absorbed. Remember you should be putting your katsu on a wire rack anyway to let any excess oil drip off. It's safe to assume that it absorbs at least a quarter cup of straight oil.

>>76855515
>look how much many calories in a quarter cup of oil
>nearly 500calories
HOLY MOLY that's a shit ton for frying. Guess that's the last time I make fried food until I reach my goal weight...

>>76855519
I don't have an air fryer because I don't like getting gimmicky kitchen tools, but I have considered it just for tonkatsudon and chicken katsu. I love a nice fried piece of meat with the breadcrumbs, but I hate the oil calories. Unless it's an OMAD and I can make it work, which is usually what I do these days.

>>76855540
I have an air fryer but it burns everything. Like it cooks way to good. I follow the recipe directions but my food is always burnt

>>76855547
Hmm... Sounds like /ck/ issue, butvidk I'm an old man spiritually and I don't trust new tech for a while

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>ate a lot of cookies today

i ate ice cream today

>>76855506
assuming you're talking about deep or shallow frying, you could try weighing the oil before and after frying to figure out how much has been absorbed

>>76855625
i am NOT proud of you today

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>>76855625
>>76855628
>ate pidser today
>still 2600 under budget for the week
Feels good man.

>>76855506
When you cook it some water is lost as well so idk if weighing it like that is entirely accurate, you maybe be lowballing it up to 100kcal.

carefult with powdered onions, bros.
it bloats like hell.
idk about garlic but it should have the same effect.

>>76855633
>>76855662
I just put 150 extra by default since I can't find a certain graph or data which is mind boggling to me

>>76855625
this is kris kringle's fault

Fatty Contest
looxmaxretard2006
74.2kg

im soooooooo gonna make it

>>76855625
that is one rotund-looking doctor

>2/10 would not accept health advice from

is buying a fitness tracker like a fitbit or pixel watch gay

My gas is improving and my shits are a nice not too soft/not too hard ratio. Really glad my body is adjusting to 200g protein now, I thought I was gonna have to stop dieting if I moved in with gf.

>>76855859
Yes.

Bottomless at the moment. I really could just continuously eat.

>>76855051
>Titus 3:5
"Not byworks of RIGHTEOUSNESSwhich we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost"

So water baptism isn't a work of righteousness?
>but what about the washing and renewing of the Holy Ghost?
That happens before water baptism, like as what happened to Cornelius by believing Peter's words about Jesus before being water baptized in Acts 10:45-47.

>live in Vietnam
>Eat McDonald's and bahn mi and tons of snacks
>Look toned as shit and never go above 180

>Go back to America
>Eat rice and fish, and generally all clean
>Instantly get tits and start almost hitting 200 pounds after 3 months
I swear to fuck American grocery's are literally poison

>>76855891
you doing the same amount of physical activity in both countries? or in America you're driving everywhere and doing 500 steps a day like a good mutt?

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Friend wants to go hiking and camping with me, but I'm still really fat
Legitimately how much weight can I lose in 3 weeks and how do I build my stamina for walking/climbing?

>>76855859
Very useful for progressing cardio.
The statistics they give are cool too.
I wouldn't use them to track calories though.

>>76855896
>how do I build my stamina for walking/climbing?
by walking/climbing

>>76855894
The only ONLY difference
Is I'm not sweating away a gallon of sweat every day

>>76855907
interesting. maybe that is the key. GOSPD diet

>>76855891
How come every Vietnamese immigrant I meet is always south Vietnamese?

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>Weigh myself only once a week
>300g off my goal weight
>Mfw I could've been done today if I had eaten just a little less
>Mfw I have a full week more to go because of it
Autism, but those are the rules.

>>76855919
probably good to account for the water weight you will regain

>ate 6 slices of pizza, a christmas tree cake, and a gas station sausage egg and cheese burrito today
>myfitnesspal says if I eat like this every day, I'll still lose 5 lbs in a month
lmao

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>lose 30kg
>still fat

one day i will be 85kg at 1.85m again

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I'm still pissed that I feel better, my clothes are looser, I'm not feeling exhausted just existing anymore, yet I look the same

Fatty contest
Poocare
267.6lbs

>>76855891
Its the steps. I know if I was in the US and not walking at all I'd be way fatter.

>>76855896
Start walking and add 5lbs of weight every week.

>>76855625
I ate an entire pack of cookies that was worth 927 kcal yesterday so all I ate for the rest of the day was a protein shake and skyer coconut yoghurt for a total of 1400 something kcal.

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Fatty contest
Takatin
86.3Kg

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>mfw when people are refusing just to eat healthy and are just eating slop and nothing else to not go over calories

>>76856081
Post body

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>>76856087
Now you

>>76856092
Post your body anon

>>76856081
>>76856092
Just get on GLP1. It not only helps you get rid of excess fat but also makes those virtuous better-than-thou assholes seethe endlessly.

>>76856097
I accept your concession.
>>76856099
I support GLP-1s though. I just wish you lads would eat healthier instead of slop.

>>76856106
>I just wish you lads would eat healthier instead of slop.
The twinkie diet case study indicated that even eating slop in low quantities is fine.

>>76856099
LMAO THIS FATTY HAS WOMAN MENTALITY! HES A FAG!

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Is a 1500 deficit too much at a maintenance of 2800?

>>76856117
A woman would listen to her social circles and only start GLP1 when everyone around her approves of it.
I started GLP1 because I am a goal oriented man and feel glee when I can piss off people I dislike.

>>76856108
I'd even argue you should be more considerate about what you eat on GLP-1s because your appetite is so reduced. So you can only eat so much in a day.

>mfw twinky guy supplemented a multivitman veggies and protein to not fuck up his body even in the short term

>>76856124
1500-1800 is fine gives you some wiggle room to fit in more protein or something at the end of the day to fit your goals

>>76856127
Protein- and fibermaxxing comes first followed by carbs for energy.

>>76856134
Then I don't understand why you are saying I'm seething for being concerned at our fellow anon for eating >1/2 of his calories in cookies first thing.

>>76856126
You misunderstand, a woman can't lose weight and stop shoveling food into her face without drugs. You can't lose weight and stop shoveling food into your mouth without drugs.

>>76856131
But other than low protein is there any other downside of having an average of 1300-1500?

>>76856160
Just you will feel like shit and fatigued. Probably very hungry if you don't do some form of high protein low carb unless you are on GLP-1s. Like with all dieting your metabolism will slow over time to compensate until you eat at maintenance for longer than 48 hours. The hardest part about steeper cuts is thr mental aspect you're much more likely to stick with it if its not as drastic.

>>76856173
Also more muscle loss. Especially if you dont work out during and eat 1.2g protein per lb lbm.

>>76856149
>our fellow anon for eating >1/2 of his calories in cookies first thing
In my defense this is not a regular thing for me.
I usually protein maxx, because I like eating meat.
First time in years that a day went on with me not eating meat.
Though I can have more fiber in my diet.
Anything high fiber and low calory I can eat?

>Reach goal weight
>Finally relax
>Immediately start binge eating again and gain 20lbs
Fuck my life

>>76856187
Bag of frozen veggies is what I do. I just buy a big bag. Make sure it doesnt have added sauce or anything besides the veggies. Just eat 200-300g day microwave it salt and pepper and its not bad at all. Or you can eat sawdust like some other anons that supplement max :^).

Fatty contest
Moomoo
81.1kg
159cm

>>76856191
Today you learned the ride never ends

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Flour (1 cup, ~120g): ~455 calories
Sugar (3/4 cup, ~150g): ~580 calories
Egg (1 large): ~70 calories
Salt (1/2 teaspoon): ~0 calories
Baking soda (1/2 teaspoon): ~0 calories
Butter (1/2 cup, ~113g): ~810 calories
Hershey's chocolate bar (1.55 oz standard bar, crushed): ~220 calories
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total estimated calories: ~2,135 calories

ISHYGDDT

>>76856205
you forgot the vanilla, faggot

I piss in the shower everytime I go to the gym. I literally have to pass a urinal on my way to get to the showers but I never even consider them. Once the hot water hits my stomach, I let it rip.
I'm more paranoid about people seeing me piss than I am about them peeping on me in the shower, I'll even face the fall to further stealth it so they don't see a stream heading in the opposite direction.

Last time, my usual shower smelled strongly like old piss even when walking by. Wages better clean it up by tomorrow morning's session or I'll make a complaint to the manager.

>>76856210
weird post cuz you're making it sound like you're doing some epic troll move, but that's perfectly normal and everyone does it. the only weird thing is you hiding it.

>>76855114
>is surgery the only option left
Yeah, on your brain. It's fat. Eat less than you burn.

>>76856152
Neither can you, fatty.

>>76855828
he's the reason I started on 1500 calorie diet. If it's good enough for 600 lbs men its good enough for me.

>>76856235
>20% of women piss in the shower regularly
Hot. I'm gooning for light cardio as we speak.

>>76856322
i feel so fucking fat when my heart rate is like 140 bpm while jerking it.

Fatty Contest
Garfield
156.4kg

>>76856397
LMAO

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>>76856193
>frozen veggies

>>76856397
You're a big guy.

>>76856437
for you

>>76855111
i wanna barf
>>76856193
at least pan or air fry them. microwaved veggies sounds like a caricature of dieting

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Got thin enough to actually notice something visibly bulge when i flex, spent the next 30 minutes flexing at the window like a kid continually amazed that the button with a picture of a cow on their toy lights up and does a 'moo' when pressed

>2 hours till next meal, 17 hours since last
>Already past my usual time for a shake
>Rest day, no heavy workout to help with hunger pangs
>Still don't feel hungry yet

We're truly all gonna fucking make it, boys.

I've been eyeing this really compatible woman on Tinder this whole year. She's crossed my stack atleast 4 times. Her profile evolved, her energy starting to perfectly match mine etc. Dreamt of her last night. Woke up to a message from my friend. She wants to set me up for a blind date with her friend, saying how she thinks we'd hit it off. I guess this is what manifesting is.

Wait since when was this called Fitness instead of Health and Fitness?

>>76856446
>>76856436
Nah they are delicious but apparently I only get like 8g of fiber from 300g a day. Now I need to find a better way to get fiber too.

>>76856514
Since roiding & ozempic became mainstream and spread here in order to make them acceptable. It's like they'd name /pol/ poltilically semitic & incorrect or /b/ tolerant random. Psyop.

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>mfw my beta alanine, l-citrulline and l-arginine arrived yesterday.
>mix it into my coffee about to work out
>tastes like straight cum and ass mixed together...
god is testing me to see if I deserve these gains.

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>>76856531
how do u know what cum n ass mixed together taste like

>>76856540
Your mum is very adventurous

>>76856540
It tastes like cum smells, kind of bleachy. And then there's a burnt ass after taste like shit smells.

>>76855877
Based. Praying you be uplifted by the Lord. Psalm 42.

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>no Ozempic
>no SSRI's
>no vitamin pills
>no supplements at all
>no caffeine
>no alcohol
>no smoking
>no clot shot
who else /purefat/

Fuck once you start getting lean with some muscle every pound is kind of noticeable in the mirror. I might make other bros.

>>76856628
I do this, but I probably have a vitamin defficiency.

>>76856628
>no clot shot
Memecarditis status: never happening
Great Reset status: cancelled
Antivaxxer status: still retarded

>ate 3000 calories yesterday after a good 8 months of cleaning eating
Bros...
Good thing I can just make up for it by only eating 750 calories two days in a row instead of my usual 1500. Gonna just drink 3 scoops of protein powder + a multivitamin/fish oil.

>>76856647
You technically could but you won't.

>>76856647
Just eating 3k today and call it at 48h refeed to boost your metabolism

1 month into cutting and my arms are already smaller and I have zero energy to lift weights. I hate how retarded the human body is, just use the excess fat for energy you piece of shit retard fuck.

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Weight: 102.9 kg

>>76855950
>yet I look the same
Did you take progress pics to compare to?

>>76856191
Empty fat cells can refill quite easily. You should have waited 100+ years for them to die before you relaxed.

>>76856732
I can still lift while fasting. I just have to make sure I get electrolytes and some Vitamin C once in awhile. I refeed on eggs and beef liver.
I hurt my back and got a GF, so I my weight went back up to 243lbs as of Oct 15th. I've fixed my back earlier this year and now I can start losing weight again. I probably won't make hall of fame again, but I'm back baby.

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Hobro
221 lbs

>>76856769
>Empty fat cells can refill quite easily. You should have waited 100+ years for them to die before you relaxed.
Adipotide can literally kill them but it is very harsh on the kidneys.

>>76856772
Cool sculpting and LLLT(Clear Heat Lamp works a bit too on the same principles) are safer options I guess.

>>76856785
Don't forget about the magic quantum crystals.

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>legs dont hurt as much as they did yesterday
>yummy pwo + creatine + macrogol/fibre for poos
>garn gym with mate in halfa and the sun isnt even up
>nearly 20kg down can see my dick in the shower now no sweat

>stalled at the same bench weight for 3 months now
Bros... I know I didnt expect to gain much muscle on a 1000 calorie defecit but come on... im even eating a good 100-120 g of protein a day

>>76856814
Eat 200g if youre praying for recomp.

>>76856814
That's normal and expected. You're picking weight loss over muscle gain right now (correctly so). You can't have both.
>>76856816
That's retarded.

>>76856831
It's literally the protocol for recomp if you want to see any muscle growth at all on a deficit you need >1g of protein per lb bw or 1.6g per lb lbm if you are very high bf.

At 200 I get 192g from shakes alone and I've been grabbing a bag of turkey jerky as an in-between for meals during my eating window, otherwise I think I kinda slip into starvation mode and get a little moody @ blacks. Jerky is dry as shit too, lets you chew them to nothing to help any leftover hunger; Would recommend/10

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>>76856628
>mfw i see ppl making everyrhing too hard

>>76856816
>200g of recomp
Shiiiieeettt negro thats like 1000 calories right there

Ballpark measurements (I try to be conservative when ambiguous):
>25 male
>Weight: 85kg
>Height: 180cm
>Bf%: 23% (might be a bit lower, I was at ~30% this time last year)
>Daily maintenance calories: ~2,700kcal
>Present daily (cut) diet: 2,000kcal

My current plan is to do a short bulk starting December (3,000kcal), if for no other reason than the psychological effects of novelty. I have noticed muscle mass and strength wane a little bit, which I don't like, and I'm not particularly aiming for leanness for the time being. I want to focus on abs and upper chest (I can just about feel those muscles for the first time, but they're small and undefined. Goal weight will be 88-89kg.

After that (starting in February), doing another 3 month cut with the same 2,000kcal diet as I'm on now, goal weight will be 79-81kg, maybe getting Bf% down to 15%.

Is this a bad idea? I have a certain degree of doubt about whether I should continue the cut for another few months if it's going so well so far, though progress is definitely slowing, and I don't trust myself to keep to it. I kind of expect that answer given that this is a /fat/ thread but whatever.

>inb4 post body
I'll do that in a week, can't be bothered rn.

On another note, what should you do in the final few days and weeks of a cut? Should I try to slow down a bit or eat and drink as little as possible?

>>76856933
Yup. Muscles crave energy and nutrients. But it's so worth it. Become a bloodlusty beast and give them what they want. Yell "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!" as you do your rear delta in the cables.

binged hard last night. I thought I could handle getting high and not munching but in fact I couldn't handle it. Lesson learned I cannot be getting high when im trying to lose weight.

Now today I could fast all day to un-do the damage or just go back into my normal routine. Not sure what ill do

Fatty Contest
Vik
217.0 lbs

>>76856938
Ideal bf for building muscle is 10-18% because your hormonal profile will be better. But it's really up to you 18-25 is still okay but you'll probably put on more fat than you would at a lower bf.

>>76855051
>calculate my tdee
>2400cal

What the fuck so if I eat more than 2400cal I gain weight? No fucking way, I'm genuinely crashing out right now, I know guys whose cut is 2400cal fuck this shit

>>76857087
Build more muscle or move more.

>>76857087
everything in the OP is under the guise that you are a disgusting person who won't be truthful with yourself, the diet, or the exercise. listen to yourself, not the copy pasta

>>76857097
I'm hitting the gym 5 days a week but the sticky says to use sedentiary settings.

>>76857087
i've been eating 1000cal for two months
skill issue

>>76857102
I don't know jack shit about nutrition though, I've been raised by retarded slobs who learned me to eat whenever I'm hungry until im full

>>76857104
Somalian mode

>>76857103
Yeah just do it for a week and track the trends and increase calories if you want then. Calculators aren't that accurate best way is to just record your intake and see how your weight changes with it over time.

>>76857115
>I don't know jack shit about nutrition though, I've been raised by retarded slobs who learned me to eat whenever I'm hungry until im full
sounds like you'll be learning something new then, huh anon

>>76857103
The sticky is retarded.

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>>76855051
Started diet and lifting nov 14 at 167lbs. Half had multiple two and three day fasts since. On days I do eat it’s always at a 500 or more calorie deficit. Walk minimum 10k steps a day with most days being 14k+ and skateboard miles per week in two sessions. Weight fluctuates consistently between 165 and 167. Weigh myself this morning, 167.4. God fucking damnit. Atleast I’m still sober

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What body fat percentage is this? I'm 5' 10" is there a point where I will be universally attractive to woman?

I think I want to die a virgin, but it's important to me that I am abstaining from women by choice and not because I can get them.

HOW DO I FAST MY SCHIZO BRAIN WONT LET ME

>>76855209
how many calories a day do you eat?

>>76857186
**Can't get them

>>76855643
what app?

>>76857195
pretty sure its loseit. it's dogshit

>>76857186
I'd throw a guess of 15%

>>76857181
Anon its just normal weight fluctuation. Why are you dieting at 167 lbs? Do you have anorexia?

>>76857208
He might be a manlet

>>76857181
>>76857181
>Nail-biting
>Decent living

Unless with relatives, possible opiates. Alcohol likely, though high energy and lack of club nails would say otherwise. Shot in the dark, meth or heroin. More likely uppers than downers for sure.

>>76857186
>5'10"
Only men in the 6'2-6'4" range can be universally attractive to women. Sorry bro. Height is the #1 most important factor for attractiveness, followed closely by a healthy bf%. Any man who is 6'3" and fit will absolutely destroy pussy.

>>76857216
Also
>Freaking out progress without even being two weeks I to new diet/routine
What are you, me? Calm down, spaz

>>76857087
>know guys whose cut is 2400cal fuck this shit
Are they like 7 feet or something?

>>76857217
Yeah, I kind of know that already, but there has to be some exception where 99.99% of women will be attracted to a 5'10" guy if he's fit enough, right?

>>76857290
no

>>76857216
Alcohol
>>76857227
I’m on house arrest so I got nothin else to do. Kinda hard to not fixate on it when I went from working everyday to being stuck in this house 24/7. I’m not spazzing over it just disappointed I haven’t seen more progress.
>>76857210
Not a manlet I’m 6ft but very much skinny fat. Just wanted to get rid of my flabby belly

My other leg is an inch longer than the other. This imbalance has done some dmg to my other knee. Now that I'm lifting & entering serious leg press forces I started taking collagen supplement and oh boyo, it's only been a week and my skin's gradiating a difference.

>>76857295
It isn't

>>76857297
Ok. Okay. Anyway

Faddies with skin problems give it a try.

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>>76857290
Sorry, no. 90% of women are between 5'0 and 5'10 and the average woman finds the ideal height difference to be 6-8". Only about 50% of women will find your height impressive. Which isnt bad, but nowhere near universal. Even pic related said he would get rejected for not being 6 ft.

>>76857322
"women like tall guys" is manletoid cope and has always been
t. 6'5

>>76857323
Get to 12% bf and ask 5 random women for their phone numbers and get to me nigga

>>76857322
If you can't talk a lady to bed height isn't your problem. Fear smells awful.

>>76857332
>sex
Im talking about an actual relationship with a quality women, not a quickie with a white trash whore with daddy issues.

>>76857327
I've seen shorter, fatter dudes get plenty more female attention than I've ever had, lmao.

>>76857334
>incel blahblah & seethe

>>76857337
It's called having a big dick, sometimes a personality helps too. Women gossip just like men, if you have a hog it spreads through the grapevine.

>t. Have fucked through a friend group or two

>>76857344
Larp

>>76857347
You wish

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>haven't eaten like a pig for 19 whole days
are you guys proud of me?

>>76857348
You wish, virgin.

>>76857356
>t. Me (talking to you lmao)

>>76857348
Post proof

>>76857195
>>76857203
Loseit.
>its dogshit
Works for me. Tbf you can lose weight on excel spreadsheets. The app doesnt really matter.

>>76857366
Inevitably, whenever posting on fit, some anon will ask to see your cock.

>>76857344
there is literally zero telling of what makes a man objectively attractive to women or not.
It's not height, it's not hair or lack thereof, it's not x or y. You getting laid is because you've got the random luck of happening onto women who find you attractive, nothing more.

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does the intensity matter as long as you're burning calories? cause at first I was doing 2.5 mph so I could do 2 miles in 48 minutes, but that's not very sustainable for me, it's quite hard desu. I turned it down to 2 mph and now I find it much more manageable to keep that pace and do the whole 4 miles every day. so is it bad because I'm not going as intensely as before?

>>76857379
How fat are you?

>>76857381
350 lbs. I am fat.

>>76857382
At your weight you can do anything a lose weight. So just be active, don't stress over it. If you like 2mph. Do 2 mph.

>>76857379
It's gonna burn less calories HOWEVER it's better to do your exercises at a pace that you can manage so you can do them on the long term.
This isnt a race for speed, it's all endurance.

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>>76857387
>>76857388
ok thanks I'm gonna keep at it.

>>76857379
My opinion is that the amount of calories you use working out is basically negligible unless you're up at olympic athlete bullshit where you're on a bike racing motorcycles up mountains for like 6 hours every morning. The only weight loss benefit of exercise is to increase your base metabolic rate which muscles do a wonderful job of actually.
Don't do intensity for the sake of intensity, work out to get better at working out because being an efficient mover means having a higher metabolism than lardo the clown.

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Ideally, you want high intensity. The only metric that matters is how your body is responding. If you're not sweating, you're not straining.

As a large lad, walking is going to inevitably build up a lot of stress on joints and you'll want to slow down.

My suggestion is to vary your cardio workouts, try rowing or stationary bikes, to reduce excess wear and tear on joints. Keep the progress up, bud I was 305 and now I'm hovering around 200 and pushing for 180.

>>76857395
>>76857400
yes I understand, I will keep at it. I will try for 5 days a week minimum. 4 miles @ 2 mph = 800 calories according to my treadmill, but who knows if that's true. either way it's going to take two hours, not much different than the 1.5 hours it would have taken @ 2.5 mph. that's 20 miles a week. should be good enough to lose 1 lb a week I think. my calorie limit is 2000 a day and I'm trying to use exercise to cut that down a bit while still eating well enough.

>>76857406
idk what your goals are but for me mobility and relative strength are an enormous joy. I can run and jump and shit. Adult human culture is so dull though everyone has to crawl along and pack into crowded carpeted hallways or cluttered attics.

>>76857104
what foods?

>2 weeks stall
i know to expect this but REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>76857400
You are a manlet, aren't you.

>>76857406
At 350lbs 2000 cals is enough for the weight to fall off you for a decent chunk of time without any additional exercise.
The exercise is great and I wouldn't want to stop you doing it but the diet will always be doing the heavy lifting.

>Weigh myself once a week
>Was going to stop at the start of december
>Goal weight is likely to be met tomorrow though
Idk man. I feel like shit. I've taken it too far.
I'm like 60% certain that if I meet my goal exactly tomorrow, or weigh any less, I might just end it a week early.

>>76857428
You should keep weighing yourself even after you hit your goal.
Otherwise you'll slowly start creeping back up without realising it and it'll be a bigger job to fix it when you do notice.

>>76857428
sounds like a recipe for binging on the holiday and jumping right back above goal weight

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>mfw not going to eat any oliebollen, appelbeignets or kerststol

>>76857421
I'm stronger than you, proportionally.

>>76857443
those are made up words

>>76857444
Yeah, manlet.

>Only one week into new diet
>Finally closed eating window to 5 hours
>About to move in and holidays approaching

I'm about to push myself back by weeks.

>>76857448 see >>76857443

>>76857449
She already said she likes it when I make pancakes, and we have a friendsgiving planned, its so fucking over.

>>76857444
I never got this cope. It's as if saying "in my dreams I'm the gold medal lifter, so where's my medal?"

>>76857445 all words are made up
>>76857455 who is she? a gains goblin?

>>76857457
I can push 305x3 @200.

>>76857419
>2 week stall
Anon... thats not a thing

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>>76857443
poffertjes mono diet

>>76857468
t-the OP says 3 weeks stalls are to be expected.
i'm eating less than 1,500 calories a day no fucking way my metabolism adjusted to be that low.

>>76856500
teach me about manifesting, anon.
can i just e-stalk a girl i like and someone will set me up with her?

>mfw 6 foot tall
>17%bf
>8x6.5" penis
>full head of thick luscious hair
>white
>wizard
sometimes_you_don't_think_it_be_like_that_but_it_do.png

>>76856628
>>no vitamin pills
can't quit muh vitamin d.
>>no caffeine
can't quit muh coaffee because i can't shit without it.

>>76857443
Goed zo dikkie dik.
Ga maar lekker jezelf de tering in vreten.

>white wizard
Hell yeah, brother.

>>76857492
>Ga maar lekker jezelf de tering in vreten.
Are you ok vriend? I'm doing the exact opposite.

>>76857478
let me guess you never leave your basement

>>76857501
No
I have to go to bed.

Down to two meals but even when I don't "feel hungry", I get very irritable about any delay to eating.

Is it true that you can't remove plaque from arteries?! I think I'm going to fucking die!!! My arteries fucking hurt!!

>>76857520
cremation does the job

>>76857473
Anon...

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>>76857478
Either your face looks like this or something happened to you as a child or youre larping
Even then, you could probably still get laid

8 days into a 2 week fast, shits gay. might downgrade my target.

>>76857550
ngmi, fast for 52 weeks

Assuming I don't strictly track my calories (maintenance is 3000, bf 35%) but still eat in a general deficit, do weightlifting almost everyday (PPLUL + 1 day cardio only) I will eventually recomp my body right? I have other stuff going on in my life right now so strictly counting calories might be difficult.

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So i watched my 600lbs life and i don't know what i think about it

>600lbs
>yeah you go on 1200kcal diet lots of proteins...
>they fail
>why do you eat like a pig?

1200kcal diet is kind of hard

>>76857586
Do they fail because they end up eating 1500kcal, or because they end up eating 5500kcal?

>>76857615
ANON THATS ICKY

>stuff face the last two days
>should be barely over TDEE if over at all
>put on 2.5kg
Thermodynamics is a joke.

>>76857636
Don' fetishhaze, you homo. Kinkshaming anti street nigga. Judgemental Tom Dynamite boy.

4.5kg down in 20 days on 2.5mg tirz. Lmfao.

>Have to resort to chemically doing yourself instead of just putting down the fork
>Bound to eat yourself back to shit as soon as you're off it

>>76857668
4.6kg down in 19 days on libo. Lfmoa

>>76857692
Cope fatty. Stay fat forever.

>>76857661
it's water weight. shitty food is full of salt and carb-heavy and makes you bloat up. eat clean for a couple of days and it will go back down. remember that the scale is just a measurement tool and can give you inaccurate data sometimes.

a bit of light exercise can help clear out that bloat too. think of it as penance.

>>76857735
Down 105lbs despite growing visible muscles. Get the jab now, you'll be zooming past your starting weight within the year. No discipline to lose weight now, no discipline later to stop yourself from gaining it all back plus some.

Also, losing weight fast and you'll have that weird skin poncho.

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I have cut out pasta, rice and potatoes and might cut out bread next. That last one scares me. No I'm not a ketotard.

i did cardio this morning but i have nothing going on...i guess i could just walk (not real cardio)

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>rate of loss has slowed to the point I can't tell if I'm at a plateau or not

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Alright fags i'm tired of you complaining about these ''stalls'' and ''plateaus''. For six days a week you need to eat at your calorie deficit. On your 7th day you eat at maintenance nothing but Mexican food. The following day your body will take are of all excess water weight. You're welcome

>hungry
>dont want to cook
>cant drink coffee cuz it stains your teeth
>cant order any food because everything is expensive as fuck and filled with sneed oils and sugar
>even a "healthy" meal (baked chicken wings) is $20
kill me

>>76857782
>This nigga is incapable of turning on his oven and laying out a layer of wings on a cookie sheet
Get a slow cooker if you hate cooking. 5 mins of prep, i.e. tossing shit into a pot, turns into a home cooked meal.

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>>76857782
there are plenty of things you can eat that require no cooking
>a piece of fruit
>some nuts
>cherry tomatoes
>cucumber
>an carrot
>your boyfriends asshole
>yoghurt

>take a fat shit
>check weight
>gained a kilo
WHAT KIND OF SCAM IS THIS

>>76857802
classic mistake, you took a shit instead of leaving one

>>76857586
Its hard but everyone can do it if they really want. But not everyone on that show really wants to get better. Keep in mind some/most of those guys are seriously mentally ill, they're basically committing suicide legally. If they could press a button to be thin they'd just end up 500lbs again because the fatness isnt the cause of their issue its just the symptom. Very few people are that far gone though.

>>76857802
>not a fat ogre shit
NGMI

>>76857796
none of those are filling and you're a faggot
it's not a meal if it doesn't have meat

>>76857790
meanwhile in reality
>have to thaw the chicken wings hours in advance
>have to season them
>can only cook like 6-8 at a time because any leftovers taste like shit after a few hours in the fridge
>have to take the airfryer out into the backyard otherwise the house will smell like chicken all day
>have to babysit the wings and flip them every 5 minutes
>have to do this 3 times a day
there is a reason people used to live like 12 to a household, one person would take care of the cooking for everyone else.
fast food would be perfect for me, but it's expensive as fuck, tastes like shit, and is filled with garbage cancer chemicals. cooking for one is hell.
Fuck you.

>>76857796
and fuck you again, faggot

Fatty Contest
bridgecocker
251.4lb

sisters your slow cookers?

>>76857811
Everyone without severe mental illness*, I should say

>>76857586
if I was 600 pounds I wouldn't eat for 6 months

>>76857817
If you have all that energy to complain and bitch, surely you have energy to FUCKING STOP BITCHING LIKE A TWELVE YEAR OLD GIRL ON TIKTOK AND MAKE SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF TO EAT YOU PIECE OF SHIT FUCKING HOLY LAZY WOMAN ASSHOLE POLYP

raped my back doing pull ups and now it hurts to stand award

>>76857817
Yes, surely pouring all of your effort into posting this one man pity party is a good use of time otherwise.

Meal prep is your friend. Freezer friendly meals like breakfast burritos or pre-portioned stew can last for a week in the freezer or you can meal prep for three days at a time.

There are always going to be struggles. There always going to be an easier way or a reason to not do it at all. All is ask is; How has that worked so far for you in your life?

>>76857817
Yea youre right its so hard and time consuming i guess none of us are GMI
>meanwhile in reality
I dont eat fast food anymore my nigga. Havent since september. Skill. Issue.

Big believer that you shouldn't always be comfortable, not every meal should be delicious. Sometime you gotta ruin your nut, just so the next one really means something. Go through some pain, now, when things are easy, so you're ready for later when you get nervous and cum early after not seeing her for a month.

Being skinnyfat is so much better than being fat. At least with clothes I look good. I'm going to look great this summer WAGMI

>>76857744
You don't know me. I've yoyo'd plenty in my life and I'm over 30. In fact, I went from 120kg to 90kg in 2024 WITHOUT DRUGS and been oscillating between 90 to 95kg this year. This month I decided I had enough and started tirz. Fuck this discipline and will power bullshit, my skinny friends don't need fucking discipline to not eat because they're not tortured by fucking hunger all the time.
That's like hammering a fucking nail to your asshole and saying "just take the pain bro you lack discipline!". Fuck off.
Your life coach bullshit is empty and doesn't work. I know because I was like you. I'm glad to be free from this retardation.

>>76857896
And my goal is 80kg. From "muh discipline" alone I've made it really far already, so don't lecture me on discipline.

Arm soreness is so unplayable. I can handle the soreness on every other part of my body when my biceps and forearms scream every time I extend them, I just want to lay in bed all day and never move

>>76857896
You don't know me but you feel the need to justify yourself to a complete stranger because you're insecure about your own decision. You've had this same argument between yourself and I'm not going to be to one to rubber stamp your shortcut.

>5'11 200lb fatty (only muscle tone is in thighs and calves, minimal upper body)
should I just do body weight exercises like pushups and squats and shit or should I go buy weights

>>76857948
Por que no los dos? If you're literally just off the couch, bodyweight is fine. Maybe try a heavy resistance band before weights You can work a ton of different muscle groups and adjust the band to increase resistance so it's progressive overload too.

Fatty Contest
timetolockin
224.49

>>76857948
if you have the money then get a nice barbell, rack, and a pullup bar.
if not then body weight is fine, but inconvenient and progression isn't as simple as adding 5lbs to a bar.

Fatty Contest
AngloSperg
270

>>76857735
>if you dont pay big pharma like ne you won't make it
>nobody ever made it before GLP-1s

>>76857744
>Also, losing weight fast and you'll have that weird skin poncho.
Not true, stop spreading that

>>76857948
Start with calisthenics then get the 5, 10, 15, 20, 25lb dumbbell set

>eat a high sodium meal
>stomach is now flabbier than usual
I hate this...

>>76858025
Broth and pickle fermentation brine are my favs.

>>76857948
>under 6'2"
No point man
Just stay fat and enjoy life

Pickle juice is actually great for electrolytes.
I wanna get more into homesteading in general and pickling seems almost retard proof. Imagine making some homemade hot giardiniera for a guilt-free sandwich upgrade.

Fatty contest
BeefyWeiner
190.75 lbs
5'9"

>>76857817
this is good bait but just in case it isnt, genuinely the first time ive really wanted an anon to never make it, praying you die fat and alone and afraid you insufferable drain

>>76857352
yes. very proud.

Fatty Contest
BostonBeachedWhale
400.4 lbs
5'10"

I am not looking forward to Thanksgiving. I'm worried it's going to undo some of my progress from this month.

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I want this body type so fucking bad... one day bros...

>>76858200

>>76857947
No retard. I shared what happened to me after taking tirz and YOU replied trying to demoralize me without even quoting my post, which is a typical passive-aggressive bitch move.
You don't get to do a "no u" after getting a slap, bitch boy. Take it as a lesson.

>>76857930
doing a warmup set or two for some extra blood flow can help

>>76857533
>0.7k up from yesterday
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>76857756
bread is more calorie dense than rice.
switch them. keep the rice but cut breads

>>76857756
>>76858369
keep potatoes, they are way more satiating

>>76857756
keep whichever one was your ancestors' staple

hmmm. my TDEE says it is like 2500. But, I've been eating 1800 for 3 weeks and nothing has changed. I guess 1800 is my TDEE.

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Give me starvation bradycardia or give me death by hypoxia!

Day 1 of 1-month lock-in (I don't expect to be able to autistically micromanage my food intake when Christmas comes around).

47.00 kg starting stwenf. This was highly satisfying.