>Who is /fat/ for?For dairy digesters working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?Eat more meat.1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros) or LoseIt (great for both).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 1g per lb of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and burn fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body burning away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat hyper-processed foods.Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gyno & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqprevious >>76871489
repostan from >>76876257>6'2, 117kg, big frame>start a 500deficit diet>lose 22kg ez>unable to do exercise most weeks due to shitty job schedule/other stuff>feel really good but still lost probably lots of muscle>still have fat leftI think my ideal weight is around 90-100Should I hit maintenance kcal and focus on doing exercise? I don't want to lose any more muscle and I thought maintenance will help me "transforming" that phat into muscle
with a calorie counter, you can eat anything you want, he said to himself out loud
>>76876263anyone got tips for cooking in a deficit? some anon said i cant cook for shit and it made me realise ive just been throwing around simple ingredients together and setting them out on a plate to eatIm just worried actually "cooking" would involve using more oil and other shit which would increase calories in generalPic rel is my typical lunch, 1500kcal budget
>>76876277I throw the ingredients I want to use on the counter and take a picture and ask grok what the portion sizes should be, it's only retarded maybe a quarter of the time (it optimistically wanted me to put 100g of salsa on two soft tacos, I told her no)
>no nuns>no changed alliterative OPNOT MY FAT
Bros, I'm back at my parent's home for the holidays and it dawned on me that it's officially been 5 years since I started my fitness journey. I haven't been obese for 2 years. It's been such a crazy ride. It's gotten to the point where I look at the old picture of me being obese with nostalgia rather than self loathing. There is hope to keep the weight off long term. You might even get to go on bulks and eat like a fat person again if you commit to lifting hard and cutting afterwards. Its only gotten easier to cut after each bulk compared to losing that 100 pounds the first time.
Any of you anons every try fasting for a week?
>>76876323Longest I went was 5 days and could have kept going. I only stopped because I was still lifting and wanted protein.
>>76876330Were you able to lose belly fat and see abs? That's why I want to do it.
I've had like 4-6 people comment on my weight loss now.
>>76876333I lost belly fat but no abs. I stopped fasting when my gf moved in. She's a gains goblin; she always has a strong urge to feed me after sex.
>>76876335Yea I don't think fasting is possible when you live with others unless they're also into fitness
>>76876263>Ketosister meltdown edition
>>76876334People tell me "you keep looking skinnier every time I see you", even when I'm bulking. In their eyes, I'm just permanently shredded now.
>>76876364Any time I start bulking my dad says>stopped training abs huh
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 94.75 kgOverall Progress:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyMotivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNZQ8KxuNfYGuess I was a bit too thirsty yesterday. No worries.
Should I trust the activity level settings on cronometer? +25% (365) calories for lifting weights 3x a week seems like a lot.
>>76876380>https://tinylink.net/1JdoyDoing well man.
>>76876401That doesn't seem accurate. Activity levels are usually for more active general lifestyles (like being a bricklayer vs a programmer).It's often a good idea to just list it as low activity, and then manually add activity calories back in (or even better, automatically from a smartwatch).
>go to Mexican restaurant with family>"I can do this, I'll just order a fajita bowl, no worries">they bring out the free tortilla chipsFUCK
Does anyone else seethe when fatties judge people? These fatties at work were shit talking homeless drug addicts and I wanted to call them fat food addicts and tell them how all the shit they were saying is what the whole world has said about fatties since the dawn of fatties.
>>76876279Grok vision model is extremely far behind the other AI companies, stick to Gemini or ChatGPT for picture processing
>>76876401No.Never trust calories lost through exercise.Always calculate your deficit on no or couch potato activity.Any calories burned through exercise is just a bonus.
>>76876341You can't entertain the people you fucking live with unless you're gobbling food? You suck.
>>76876459Walking calories are pretty reliable
>>76876263Nigga is that a steak? Cause if so you need to just fucking stop.
>>76876456Oh, I'm aware, I don't use vision for weight estimating, I weigh manually, gork just helpes with recipes and calorie tracking. It seems pretty okay at tracking things if I give it the ingredients and the weights. 4 is better than 4.1 at it, thoughTbh the primary reason I use gork is I have twitter on my phone so it's there and it's free, copilot is free gpt 5.1 but only on windows
>>76876459Nah, this is really not a healthy or sustainable approach at high activity levels. I'm not going to do a 20km run and just eat the same as normal. It's okay if you're lifting a couple of times a week, but not much more than that.
>>76876483okay but if you're the type to do 20km runs you don't need dieting advice from /fit/
>>76876488Sure, I come here to help other people on the same journey. But one of the main goals in weight loss is to create sustainable habits that you can maintain for the rest of your life. And if you take the approach that "any exercise is a bonus", then at one point you'll have to make a hard shift. And it isn't super straightforward, so you should practice that mental calculation during the whole process.
>>76876491what do you think of the 80/20 "80% should be diet, 20% should be cardio" approach to weight loss? Too unfairly weighted against cardio?
>>76876491while that's true, it's very difficult to get an accurate estimate of calories burned during exercise from any of the calculators or smartphone apps and they are very often far off target. it's much simpler and more accurate to just assume that exercising burns no calories and stick to your fucking deficit. the people in this thread aren't elite bodybuilders trying to win mr. universe, they're fat people trying to fix their relationship with food. there's nothing sadder than seeing a person making great progress on their diet completely fail because they trusted some dumb app that told them they just burned 1000 calories walking on the treadmill.
>>76876508>Too unfairly weighted against cardio?Mother fucker how much cardio are you doing? You want to do more than 20% of your TDEE in cardio rather than just cutting calories?
>>76876451ask for the coño picante de camarera
>>76876508I don't think cardio for weight loss is really all that helpful, because in my experience it just makes you hungry and you end up eating more calories than you actually burned. Especially if you're eating carbs before, during and after like you need to for the longer distances.So in that sense, 80/20 seems fine. Because cardio is a healthy habit to get into for long term health, but it won't form the basis of your weight loss.>>76876518I agree, it's incredibly hard to get an accurate estimate. That's why it's a good idea to start early, because you get better at the mental calculations over time. For example I find that when I'm just eating intuitively I REALLY overestimate the calories from hard runs but I'm much more accurate with easy runs. But when I'm not actively cutting I'm just doing mental maths about my calories, and I test and adjust over the space of weeks and months.
>>76876277assuming this anon cooked that meat himself and boiled the cabbage along with the other vegetables, explain to me why this isn't "cooking"does cooking mean having to dress everything up and slot it together so it all looks like a neat dish on a single plate? is that what people generally mean when they say they know how to cook? cus that sounds fucking gay, i consider what anon did cooking, at least the perfectly basic tier
>>76876341>I don't think fasting is possible when you live with others unless they're also into fitnessHow?Counting calories I can understand since you either also have to cook for them or they cook for you which makes things more complicated then when you live on your own, but with fasting you just don't eat period
>>76876277Acquire an airfryer, lets you have crispy food without drowning it in oil
>>76876277I mean, you can't really cook a salad. A salad is stuff cut and thrown on a plate with salt, oil and vinegar. You're fine. If you're really worried about stuff, you could look into marinading your chicken. But if you're seeing results, you're fine.
>>76876335>shes a gains goblin>helps you get cardio in>helps you obtain mass afterwardsis she just serving you cups of olive oil or actual nice macros foods? because if its the latter than im confused, you got the complete opposite of a gains goblin, you got a gains fairy or some shitjust learn how to stop eating her dishes in excess bro, package it for leftovers or just say no (to the food part)
>>76876491You're in a weight loss thread. People should not eat extra for the exercise they did. That's literally throwing progress away. If you can do 20kms runs, what you do with yourself has nothing to do with what fat people should do with themselves, at least for a few years. That's advice for marathon runners.
take that, stupid gut
>just had one of those insant patties for burgers>eat two with some cheese, buns, and no oil or frying>check calories, each one is 350calories and it's tinyis this normal?I just ate it for protein, i expected each one to be like 200 cal or so.I feel like just getting raw mince meat and making it to a bun is better. I normally do that.
Obesity is a solved problem
>>76876683depends on the brand, some add a lot of filler to bump up the weight (water, breadcrumbs, potato starch and shit). some add seed oil (massively bumps up the calories). some even add sugar too. so always check the ingredients first.I just buy mince and make them myself or buy the pre-made 100% beef patties from my local butcher for convenience.
>>76876268It's called recomposition. Personally I recommend cutting further first, but whatever just try it.
>>76876683>counting after eating
Fatty ContestTakatin85.3kg>85kgDown from 100+ when I started and my highest was 107kg iircSince it has been mostly smooth sailing my new goal is 70kgWAGMI
Alright bros, I had the burger but removed the bun, but also had two pieces of fish and about 500g of chipsI wasted all of today's expenditure, I HATE MYSELF REEEEEEE
>>76876793try to half the chips next time.
>>76876793>half a kilogram of chipswhat
>>76876798>>76876794Well the chips are an estimate, I got the small portion, which I'm not sure how many grams the whole thing is
>4 am>can't sleepjust ate like 500 calories of pork rinds lo,
>>76876804>loLo, and I beheld the Calories coming from Heaven in a chariot of fire and steel
What calculators do you use for calculating calories for walking?280lbs, 3 miles in 1 hour and different calculators say anything from 300-500. Seems way too high.
I must not eat chips. Chips are the weight loss killer. Chips are the big-death that brings total TDEE obliteration. I will face my chips desire. I will permit the desire to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the chips desire have gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
When I get below 190 lbs will I finally stop hating myself?
>>76876829Yes, and she'll message you back and your father will come back and your dog will come back to life
>>76876697I'm afraid of needles
>>76876831She messages me randomly My dad never leftI've never had a dog
I'm a gross fatty fatty at 85kg and need to lose atleast 7kg to feel human again
>haven't been counting shit>just cut out snacking on anything except fruit>losing 1-2 lbs a weekIt was that easy
>>76876861I switched my diet from mainly carbs to mainly vegs and I've shed weight like crazy.(also cut out the snacking).Glad you're making it brother.
>>76876867Arent vegetables the main source of carbs?
>>76876871You know what I meant by that.
>>76876871Depends which. Potatoes, Onions, Tomateos? Yes. Greens and Beans? More Fibre and Protein. Especially Beans.
>>76876867>I switched my diet from mainly carbs to mainly vegs and I've shed weight like crazy.that's a good idea
>>76876277I mean if you like it and its working…why change anything?
>>76876277Depends on your calorie limit and protein target.
>>76876814You propably spend over 100kcal just by bmr in an hour, if that makes those numbera seem more sane. You do weight a lot, so it seems realistic.
I'm developing scale paranoia
>>76876963Post body
>belt loop 6 can now be accessed Only tangible progress I've seen lmao
>have my thanksgiving yesterday>up 1 kg from eating like a piggysurely it's all just water weight
Any ideas how to avoid counting calories every day AND execute a slow bulk plan after a good cut? I was thinking about going low carb with one cheat day in a week as a mental valve, it's quite hard to overeat with limited carbs and Randle cycle won't get triggered that intensely. Of course paired up with weekly weigh-ins.
>>76876804idk why this made me full on belly laugh
>>76876361Keep going pal, you'll soon reach 2,000 reposts of this picture.You might even get there before the end of the year!
Imagine 4chan without normalfags, schizos, shitposters or generational obsessed twitter users, what a world that'd be
>>76876277If you're unsure, dripping some lemon juice on it makes any vegetable at the very least tolerable to eat
>bought a belt with sliding buckle last year>just tried it on again>have to max it out to wear it>still a bit loose on me>Will have to throw it out in like 2 weeks cuz of dietI try not to buy too many new clothes for the same reason, they only last a short while before you have to change them again. I plan on literally throwing out 95% of my clothes once I reach my goal weight. I'll probably wear small sized shirts and 30 inch waste pants (or less?).My winter coat that used to be tight is now way too baggy and looks bad but I have no choice but to keep it because if I buy another one I'll have to change it again once I reach my goal weight.
VERY important job interview on mondaystarted my fast yesterday so by the time the interview rolls around I'll have been fasting for ~40 hours for peak mental clarity
>>76877178It's a png thus it's a lossless filetype and keeps its image hash. And you appear to be searching by filename. Which if you use 4chanx or an app like mimi or readchan it will always save it as the same file name. You've been told this many times but you simply choose not to believe it because you're retarded from your mental illness grifter meme hairloss diet. You truly are the most pathetic faggot on this board.Kill yourself.
>>76877178who is he even trying to bait, what the flip ive only ever seen this level retarded commitment on vee
>>76877271he's mentally illhe genuinely thinks that every person on this board that discusses keto (one of the most popular diets on earth) is the same person.try it yourself. make a thread about keto, he'll call you "ketoschizo"
>>76876263
>>76877271It's a redditor called Moxyte who mods a subreddit called r/ketodupedHe's been spamming here for years to anyone who has anything even remotely positive to say about ketogenic diets, and pretends they're all the same guy.Moxyte is an overweight mentally ill vegan who seems like he is on /fit/ all day every day shilling for carbs and against low-carb diets which he calls Atkins.He sometimes throws tantrums in the /fat/ thread and has repeatedly tried to get moderators to censor low-carb discussion.
Anons I need advice, i meal prepped some food recipe for high protein i saw on jewtube>guys recipe results in 630 calories 63g protein per portion>mine 580c 76g proteinits probably because hes using murrican products to make it and i used europoor products, should i count it with his calories macros to be safe and not overeat?
>>76877242lmao retard
>cut from 250 to 220 over the course of the year>get too relaxed>now back at 232I just feel despair
>>76877288Anons should really try keto or carnivore. I don't get why it has such a stigma, but it just fucking works. Especially carnivore. I lost about 100lbs (290 to 190 at 5'11") through pure starvation. I did the whole CICO thing but I just ended up cutting more and more food until the scale moved. By the time I got to 190 I felt dogshit and lost a lot of muscle. I would often be so hungry at night that I couldn't sleep.I eventually tried keto and I was able to get down to about 180 or so but I was still pretty hungry. I did Paul Saladino's retarded fruity diet and I was horribly constipated and had major blood sugar crashed.Then I just cut out all of the fruit and only ate red meat. And it just worked. I went from 195 to 175 in about 5 months, I'm never hungry, I eat until I am absolutely full every single day in one big meal and I just go about my day. No longer have constipation, no longer have to weight or estimate "calories". Fuck, it's even cheaper in the long run since I barely have to go to the supermarket and I can buy meat in bulk. I still do not understand why it hasn't caught on more.
>lose a shitton of weight by dirty cutting>at 135 lbs now >still have moobsFUCK... i'm starting to believe that /fat/ was right about protein intake and minimizing muscle loss...i'm thin but it's clear i need to lower my body fat somehow since right now i'm only bones, fat and zero muscle
>>76877354Post body
>>76877354>>at 135 lbs now >>still have moobswhat? how
>>76877352Carnivore is the ACK-diet. Keto can work if you only eat chicken and fish but most people just eat bacon with butter.Also the best possible way to lose weight is retatrutide right now. With it you can eat like shit and still lose weight but make sure you exercise and eat protein with it or you end up like this guy >>76877354 here.
>>76877364>the healthiest diet possible is actually super terrible for u because of 50 year old cholesterol "science" that hasn't been medically relevant for the last two decades
>>76877295If you accurately added up the calories and protein of all your ingredients and are confident in your numbers then use your numbers.Did you include some extra calories for seasoning and cooking oil?
>>76877364>your diet that worked perfectly in your experience actually sucks>try drugs instead
>>76877354Sounds like a hormonal problem.
>>76877370LDL-C/apoB is the most accurate predictor of plaque formation. Plenty of studies showing plaque regression under 70-80mg/dL regardless of method. Then there's the LMHR study where the ketards had nearly as much plaque accumulation as your average diabetic.
>>76877376>LDL-C/apoB is the most accurate predictor of plaque formationand that goes down on carnivore, alongside your triglycerides, while your HDL goes upsybau
>skinny people are dying of heart attacks because they're eating too much red meatyou genuinely have to have brain damage to think this
>>76877373Show me studies indicating that the keto or carnivore diet leads to strong and sustainable weight and fat loss over a period of at least two years. There are none.The drugs at least work and not only in study settings but also in the real world where the US obesity rate has declined for the past two years for the first time in history.>>76877378Triglycerides yes, apoB would go through the roof unless you mostly ate lean meat and fish but we all know most carnitards eat mostly bacon.
Willing a big December burn for all. The EOY push. Family will comment on the loss at Christmas. WAGMI
>>76877371No cooking oil, the only seasonings is dried herbs like oregano garlic powder salt pepper, pretty sure no one counts those and if they do they are negligable. everything else i counted accurately>weighed every ingredient>added all of it up>divided by portions
>>76877376>cholesterol transports cause plaque formationand firetrucks cause fires
>>76877385There is an 1 to 1 relationship between saturated fat intake and LDL-C/apoB. There is an 1 to 1 relationship between LDL-C/apoB and plaque formation/regression.
Longitudinal Data From the KETO-CTA Study: Plaque Predicts Plaque, ApoB Does NotHigh apolipoprotein B (ApoB) (median 178 mg/dL, Q1-Q3: 149-214 mg/dL) and LDL-C (median 237 mg/dL, Q1-Q3: 202-308 mg/dL) with low total plaque score (TPS) (median 0, Q1-Q3: 0-2.25) were observed at baseline. The median change in NCPV was 18.9 mm3 (IQR: 9.3-47.0 mm3) and the median change in PAV was 0.8% (IQR: 0.3%-1.7%). Neither change in ApoB (median 3 mg/dL, Q1-Q3: −17 to 35 mg/dL), baseline ApoB, nor total LDL-C exposure (median 1,302 days, Q1-Q3: 984-1,754 days) were associated with the change in noncalcified plaque volume (NCPV) or TPS. Bayesian inference calculations were between 6 and 10 times more supportive of the null hypothesis (no association between ApoB and plaque progression) than of the alternative hypothesis. All baseline plaque metrics (coronary artery calcium, NCPV, total plaque score, and percent atheroma volume) were strongly associated with the change in NCPV.https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacadv.2025.101686>>76877393>There is an 1 to 1 relationship between LDL-C/apoB and plaque formation/regression.wrong lol
>>76877390Plaque is not made out of sugar particles but out of cholesterol deposits. You can drive inflammation to near 0 (see the LMHR study) but with high enough LDL-C/apoB you will still have plaque formation ongoing.
>>76877363i mean it's not THAT bad but my nipples get puffy easily and i fucking hate it because that accentuates my moobsbeen thinking about lifting but the idea of seeing the scale go up makes me wanna throw up, so i think at this point all i can do is do some cardio and keep cuttingi just want to go to the beach without feeling like shit man
>>76877386>SHOW ME LEEEEE STUDDYYYYYYgb2r You can't ethically exert enough control on human populations for studies to be anything other than hypothesis generating anyway. My n=1 experience and the n=1 experience of others on the exact same diet completely invalidates all of human nutrition science which is mostly funded by Coca-cola and Pfizer.
>>76877397This was not the primary outcome of the study btw. The primary outcome was that ketards had similar plaque formation as diabetics. But because the ketard authors didn't like that result they looked at subgroups where there was no meaningful difference between an LDL-C of 200mg/dL and 300mg/dL anymore which can be explained away by the subgroups having too few people.
>>76877352Anyone who's tried keto or carnivore knows for a fact it works wonderfully for EVERYTHING. Health, being slim, gaining muscle, etc. The people who shit-talk it usually are the ones that seethe because they don't have the willpower to give up carbs and carb-rich junk food.>I still do not understand why it hasn't caught on more.It has gained a lot of popularity and many doctors online are recommending it, but the establishment will always promote plant-based diets for political reasons.Look up Anthony Chaffee MD on youtube, he's the #1 at debunking all the lies about "needing" carbohydrates.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ihJDXwOnpxMOur body doesn't even make the right kind of insulin to deal with carbohydrates. That's why we get sugar crashes.Our insulin is designed to deal with the increase of blood sugar caused by consuming too much protein.Diabetics have to be given a different kind of insulin that we don't produce that actually matches the sugar spike caused by carbs.That alone proves that we are biologically not meant to consume ANY carbs, even from fruit.
>>76877403All studies are jewish and shit but definitely trust this anonymous ketard.>>76877410And there is ketoschizo.
>>76877409Over a 1-year prospective study of 100 persons exhibiting extreme carbohydrate restriction-induced elevations in LDL-C and ApoB, NCPV increased by 18.9 mm3 (IQR: 9.3-47.0 mm3). In an exploratory analysis, changes in and baseline levels of ApoB were not associated with changes in NCPV or TPS as measured by CCTA. However, baseline CAC and other plaque metrics were positively associated with increases in coronary plaque, supporting the notion that plaque predicts plaque but ApoB does not.
>>76877400Yes and blood is the first part of the body that suffers glycation damage when consuming excess carbohydrates or having replete substrate. You damage the endethelial lining with high blood sugar and glycated blood cells, which tear the lining and then your body releases LDL in response to repair said lining as well as Platelets, Neutrophils, Monocytes, proteins, muscle cells, T-cells and I'm sure a whole bunch of other shit. Funny how no other part of the repair system gets demonized except for a single type of cholesterol carrier.
>>76877412>And there is ketoschizo.Get a life, Moxyte.
>>76877414As I said, subgroup anaylsis. 18.9mm3 increase is nearly diabetic-tier bad and twice as high as the authors initially expected.But because the ketard authors wanted to save face, they did a subgroup analysis and just ignored the primary outcome.
>>76877414>1-yeare prospective study>n=100>Food Survey
>>76877419Your post tries to make up mechanisms but the LMHR study itself proves (despite the authors trying to spin a diabetic-tier bad result away), beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it is apoB, not sugar-damaged cell walls, which are primarily responsible for plaque formation.
>>76877276holy shit anon thank you so much i finally understand what the fuck was happening that one time i asked about it, now.
>>76877428>>CARNIVORE / KETO INCREASES YOUR RISK FOR HEART ATTACK!!!!>first long term study done shows the exact opposite>>THAT DOESN'T COUNT THE STUDY WAS BIASEDyou lost lol>>76877430you must be newin case you haven't done more than 5 minutes of research, all nutritional studies are like that. There's no funding for any of this shit, which is why all studies are short term and low sample size. That's one of the biggest reasons why retards still think cholesterol is bad 80 years after the seven country study and meme low fat diets are good for you
>>76877410There is good reason to not shill keto, and that is because it requires so much willpower.Someone on keto can maintain it for a long time, but the issue is slipping up becomes all the more detrimental. Someone could get a taste of any more normal food by that point and start thinking "Oh, I'm fine now" and complete erode the base for their diet entirely over the course of a week.It's why, for general weight loss, CICO is advised. It gives a firm number you have to stay under. CICO isn't as fast, and obviously not as health minded, but it won't cause people to crash as hard as they would if they fuck up keto.
>>76877370>the healthiest diet possible is actually super terrible for u because of 50 year old cholesterol "science" all you low iq know it all boomertard still peddling the lies of nina techolz are so cringe. did you guys actually read the research or you just going off what the chiropractor on youtube said
>>76877430Nta but what they did was tell ketards who get very high LDL cholesterol on a keto diet to go keto-only for a year and measure plaque formation. The plaque formation was nearly twice as much as that of your average American and almost as bad as that of diabetics. The authors (famous youtube ketards themselves) then did a subgroup analysis (while disregarding the primary outcome) to somehow show that there wasn't a meaningful difference between super high LDL cholesterol and super duper high LDL cholesterol.>>76877440>first long term study done shows the exact opposite18.9mm3 increase in plaque, nearly diabetic levels bad.
>>76877440>there's no funding for nutritional studiesexcept for the ones that are fundedand then they're funded by Coca-Cola, Pfizer and Postanyway even if you had the controls perfect, association just isn't causation, sorry lad.
How much water is too much in a day?
>>76877443Trump's brainworm guy says the same. But somehow Trump would rather take high dose rosuvastatin and ezetimibe to controlk his cholesterol. Isn't that weird?
>>76877452I just dont like to think about trump. hes been nothing but a catastrophe.
>>76876583Women don't like eating alone. Not eating with them is the equivalent to cheating on them with another woman who is also feeding you in their mind.Even when I play with her nieces, they make me eat snacks with them.>>76876608But I want to finish cutting and reach my goal weight, which I told her will give me more useable dick length.
>took a forced vacation from 4chan a week ago>went out >exercised more >felt like I was going to make it >felt happier>start posting and lurking again >feel worse in every way >feel addicted to constantly checking replies and new threads >waste entire days on here Alright I see the issue
>>76877490if you are 400 lbs you just need to do some kind of intermittent fasting low carb or whatever, walk 30 minutes a day 5 times a week, think happy thoughts and work on your negative thinking, get some sunlight and go to bed on time and get plenty of restful sleep and in a year you will lose like 200 lbs. no one really needs to be here.
>>76877490>not using 4chan to strengthen your mental health by constantly being demoralized.
>>76877401height and bf%?
48h date ended just now. Wow, I'm dry. I'm not gonna shower today, I'll smell amazing with +3 test level gear on gym tomorrow.
>>76876271Lmao stop fucking mocking me anon
>>76876656Very based anon
>>76877178Frito Lay corporation sending its pro-carbohydrate shills?
I am 4 kilos down in 7 days on Mounjaro. I have about 7 kilos to go and 7 weeks to do it, only on 2.5mg this has fucking changed my life man.I did it the first time in 2012 alone moved from 150 kilos to 80, regained to 90 and now we start my journey to 77 kg and 6ft. Fucking hell.I feel like this is what people that take steroids feel like? Cheating? Yes no or whatever the fact is we have more results in a week than I got alone all year
imagine taking the jew drugs lmfao. enjoy your paralyzed stomach, digestive issues and having to inject yourself for life. idiot.
I need to confess my sins.I consumed almost half of a rotisserie chicken out of raw, ravenous impulse after doing five weeks of 1000 calorie deficit. I was only able to be 500 calories in deficit today...
>>76877591Rotisserie chickens are based though. Not the end of the world
>>76877545is this nigga dating a tulpa or something, careful man, I had to depersonalise and banish my last one after she started feeding me ice cream while I was asleep
Fellas, I started taking 2.5mg of tirzepatide. I just forget about food and I am not hungry at all, it also takes away that dopamine hit food gives.What's a good deficit for a 255 lb man who is 6'2"? I want to retain as much muscle as possible and I am lifting 4 days a week and doing cardio. I am currently bouncing between 1700-2000 calories and getting 160-180g of protein in a day (per chatgpt). Is this good or should I go lower? Also, am I still natty since I'm in tirzepatide?Pic rel, what I ate yesterday.
>>76877620what phone is that
>>76877620I also forgot to mention that I want to be 200 by summer so I can lose my virginity, but have as much muscle as possible.Pic rel, me a few months ago
starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8current weight: 94.3 kg 30/11goal weight: 70 kgheight: 179 cmmethod: rolling 72s with water and coffee
>>76877580Most of that was water weight
>>76877620>What's a good deficit for a 255 lb manBest recommendations are to aim for a max of 1% loss of body weight per week.
>>768775445'8bf% is supposed to be 11% but that's obviously bullshiti guess the navy method doesn't work for low values what are some accurate ways to measure bf%?
Fatty Contest Bridgecocker252.6lb
>>76877616No, she's real. And the oddity comes from her being everything I've ever dreamed of. I'm fairly experienced, and I know what I'm looking for. I uttered the words out loud into the blackness of the sky, and now she's here. To me this whole chain of events is proof of something bigger. A deity, the universe? Not sure.
>>76876263Dropped 4lbs(mostly water weight) since last report right before Thanksgiving. Also went to cousin's place for college football. Ate as much as I wanted, literally ate half a pie last night lol. Regain about 6 lbs(mostly water weight).Fatty ContestHobro223.5
>>76877590Does that come before or after the Great Reset from the covid vaccine? It's long been overdue.
>>76876263I am down 4.4 kg in 2 weeksnot much but it's the first time in my adult life that I have ever had a weight reduction beyond the normal variations day to day
>>76877620As a 6'2 man on tirz you don't really need to think about calories anymore. Just make sure to eat enough protein and fiber.And who gives a shit about natty status?
Between these threads, thinspo on /fa/ and the fph threads I finally started cutting again and my bmi dropped into the 24's again.
spent so long thinking about what i should get from the store yesterday that the store closed and i just fell asleep without eating
>>76877759idk your weight or tdee but about half of that is water weight.
I am literally going to pig out soon, the lasagna is already in the oven and im gonna eat the entire 3000kcal of it all on my own
Just spent a couple of hours meal prepping all my meals for the next 7 days. high protein meals ready to go. feelsgoodman, however cooking from scratch is expensive as fuck, i feel like its cheaper to just bulk buy a bunch of chicken and rice and eat that every day.
>>76877817put some in the freezer
>>76877817remember why you came
>>76877846I just buy those 3 euro premade sandwiches (the long ones that look like baguettes) 2x a day on workdays for breakfast and lunch from random stores, they have the perfect carb to protein to vegtables ratio
>>76877865i'm trying to min-max and many people say you should be eating 4-5 meals a day, so i cant just eat only lunch and dinner. also i go gym early in the morning, lifting while fasting isnt good
Anyone know why I get sick vascularity in the evenings like I have veins on my abs and on my obliques. But during the day nothing?
>>76877782Are you saying drop calories as now as possible to just get 180g of protein?
>>76877863I only pigged out on half the thing, im full now
Rate my breakfast4 Eggs over easy 280kcal 28g protein220g Cottage Ccheese 220kcal 26g protein1 Can of tuna 190kcal 42g protein200g Tomatoes cucumber celery onion salad I don't count the calories or nutrients in this.690kcal 96g protein
Fatty ContestVik213.0 lbs
>>76877899No, you don't need to even think about what you'll eat, just prioritize getting enough protein.
I am 17lbs down in roughly 26 days.
>>76878008Okay?
Fatty ContestGreaser88.2kg>>76878008awesomeare you loggedo n the contest?
>>76877887do you get dehydrated in the evenings?
>>76877447And because it's a retarded survey, and "keto" isn't even a singular defined diet, and because you can't control for any other of the millions of covariates, known and unknown, and it's associative data at best, it goes into the trash. It has absolutely 0 scientific veracity and the people who did the study are retards, and I don't even particularly think common keto diets are good. Have you seen the slop in the supermarkets marketed as "keto"? The ingredients are just as bad as twinkies half the time.
>>76878060I usually eat my big meal at like 3 pm I drink some water after but not a ton is that what it is?
I went on a 20 kilometer (219 American handegg fields) hike. Now you know!
>>76878072Keto can be healthy but the average ketard will eat absolute slop.
>>76878105we prefer to be called ketonauts
>>76877817Pro lasagna tip: replace the bechamel sauce with cottage cheese. Just add a splash of milk and put it in the blender, then dollop it straight onto the lasagna like you normally would. It tastes great and has way better macros.The same substitution works in mac and cheese, too.
>>76877647>>76877354>11% bf or anything even close to that>moobsYou probably have true gyno, in all odds you just need surgery (or if it's very mild, build an absolutely massive set of pecs which might mask them.)
slow bulk, recomp or cutting with high protein now?
>>76876716>It's called recomposition. Personally I recommend cutting further first, but whatever just try it.thanks manI assume recomposition is slower than cutting?
>>76878251Why do you do this? Just spam the same image, kill yourself.
>>76877115Count calories for long enough and you'll be able to guess everything in your head.Also, why do you want to go low carb in the first place?
>>76878253It's complicated and debated ad infinitum but generally people say it's slower. I suck at transitioning from cutting to bulking and vice versa so I prefer it, but you may be different.
>>76878253>>76878272To add: I'm purely cutting right now because I want to drop weight to save my joints, don't really care about losing muscles at this point. I'll probably go for recomp when I reach my goal weight. I can't be trusted with bulking.
>>76877886>4-5 meals a daydamn wtf, I usually skip breakfast and eat 1-2 big meals a day
>>76878294>eat 1-2 bigYou realise youre being retarded right? That's what sumo wrestlers do to get big, eat 2 huge meals a day. Eat smaller 4-5 meals a day, while still being in a deficit of course. Also don't eat 3 hours before bed time.
So hear me out fat/>My big brother (around 32yo) that started shedding/balding from one of his temples and has noticed he is losing a lot of hair in the showers (he has long hair this is easier to notice)>For around 6 months now he has tried every single treatment in the sun to bounce back from this but to not avail (fin,min,palmetto those special shamppos and for some reaon he wont touch oils)>Guy is a big normie only gets his info from youtube/tiktok and his doctor/big pharma and at this point he is fucking desperate>At this point I am fucking pissed and decide to help him in a more hands on way>Tell him to go and get some studies as the balding/shedding might be stress/nutrition related)>Comes with the tests some time later and find out that he has high levels of blood sugar (not to the point of being prediabetic but high enough to ring alarms)>Guy is kind fit but he certainly has some pounds on him for sure (5'7 around 80kg)So long story short now that we know of this how likely is it that his insulin resistance is causing this? I do know that high blood sugar for a long amount of time can slowly bring multitude of ailments but did not think that this would be the first one to express on him. I alredy told him that we need to work on shedding at least 30lbs of weight before he gets to try again on getting his hair back. What other things I can do here to help him? Thank you for the responses ahead of time.>Also mfw through all of this process
Fatty ContestDemoralized107.0kgHoping for a big week, be nice to be in the 106 range this time next week. Will be alternating gym days with walk days, 3x 500cal meals which will pretty much be oats, eggs on toast and meat and veg. Thats my plan, 7 days, no compromise. Lets get it.
Health anxiety gets wild when you get older man, it sucks. Nothing seems to get better, everything lingers, body starts to let you down. Look after yourselves anons
>>76878376Do some stretching
>>76878339>fin>for 6 monthsDo it for a year if you want results. If you just do it for 6 months, all you'll notice is the shedding period.
>>76878339>He's a le normie who is brainwashed by his *giggles* doctor, can you imagine?>Unlike them I will suggest eating healthy and moving to a low stress lifestyle
>2025>Being a hairlet
>>76878382A girl at my work keeps trying to get me into doing some yoga with her, perhaps I should give it a try.
>>76878403Yeah, unironically it fixes a lot of issues people have when they get 'older'. In reality they just get stiff.
>>76878370You got this braza
>>76878403I'll pass on the pajeet voodoo shit, but stretching is pretty fun. Just remember to do dynamic stretches before activity (or none at all) and save the static stretches for afterwards.
Finally hacked it on how to not be a fatty. Being nocturnal + omad. I'm not even that hungry when I go to bed. Is that what thin people feel like naturally. Hunger signals are evil.
>haven't eaten like a pig for 26 whole daysare you guys proud of me?
>>76878470>Being nocturnal How so? Sleep schedule?
>>76878388You misunderstand here dude, my brother is so balls to the wall retarded that instead of stopping and thinking that the reason this might be happening is because there might be a deficency in his body or a string of actions on his side that might be provoking things, he panicked the fuck out and started to take fin and min without consulting ANYBODY and taking things on his hands (like most zoomies do). The guy is not even balding that much and most people dont notice. Him having high blood sugar strikes me as the main underlying reason this is happening and thats why I want to help him, if I get him back to shape, blood sugar on check and shit gets worse then its time for him to move on to more drastic things.>>76878387Yeah I told him that, but taking fin while being insulin resistant sounds like a bad idea to me (then again im not a doctor thats why Im asking advice in an bavarian camel riding forum)
>>76878470>I found this when I had a nightshift job. Id get up at around noon, have a protein shake, go to the gym, have dinner before I went to work, a small snack at maybe 10pm and I was never really hungry at all. Lost a good deal of weight.
>>76878474the real question is are YOU proud of yourself anon?
