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i hate fatties so much its dreamlike

Day 5 of scales stuck. Surely tomorrow will be better right. Had my oatmeal and coffee this morning. Will have scrambled eggs on rye bread for lunch and then chicken, sweet potato, broccoli and carrots for dinner. I can't see where I am going wrong, maybe still too many carbs? Who knows. I will also lift today, so probably protein shake around then too.

>>76907626
I've been having this problem too, I started lifting 3 times a week to go along with fat loss. The internet says its water retention from the lifts and newbie gains. But I can't help but get depressed and pissed off when I don't see the scale go down after a week of this hell.

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>>76907626
>>76907659
It's literally the worst

>>76907664
I almost thought about stopping lifting, that's how much this is making me hate life. But then I think how every single week I see small improvements in my lifting capacity or ability to do more reps. Best example
>3 months ago I couldnt do more than 1 pushup
>I can do 60 now.
Guess I have to shift my mindset and tell the scale to eat a bag of dicks.

>>76907626
i'm on like week 2. granted i ate alot around thanksgiving time.
I'm really committed to getting under 190 this week, I'm so close. Might go really slim tomorrow to push through

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Down 30 pounds since August 11th. 6' 175. 5-10 more pounds to go. 10,000 steps a day. 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight. Lift 4-5 days a week. -500 calorie deficit. It's that easy but you faggots don't even try. Put the fucking fork down fatasses.

>>76907659
I know, the worst thing is the scale is exactly the same, to the gram every morning.

>>76907687
child birthing hip having twink mmmmm

>>76907687
Nice work. Would like to know more about your meal plan, always looking for tips from people that have had success with fat loss.

>>76907687
>Put the fucking fork down fatasses.
Want to explain why you were 30 pounds overweight?

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>not cutting anymore
>still want to hang out in /fat/ threads but I can't blogpost anymore
I want to lean bulk and simply avoid getting bloated, I guess observing your struggles might be a bit sobering and should keep me disciplined

>>76907713
the fat loss journey doesn't stop just because you hit your goal weight anon, you're always welcome here

>>76907659
It's time to stop wheighing yourself daily. It's not doing you any good. It's not about your body and life change anymore, it's about the number on the scale.

Newbie gains don't mean muscle gain, because it's mostly to do with your central nervoua system. It does affect inflammation and water retention, energy-cycling and metabolism. Those take a few weeks initially, and they'll keep developing as you lift more. I suggest you start checking the mirror & taking pictures for comparison.

>>76907709
I use ChatGPT to design meals daily. I lower my calories based on my needs for that week. I eat primarily sirloin steak, ribeye steak, eggs, and butter. I'm going to start eating white potatoes but I've been keto these past 4 months. Sometimes I go out to eat and I count calories on the menu or websites when I do. It's all about meat and eggs. Avoid sugar. I love milk but cut it out because of lactose. If you have any other questions let me know

>>76907712
Because I was dirty bulking but then I realized THAT IT'S FUCKING RETARDED

>>76907687
>6' 175. 5-10 more pounds to go
fuck
do i really have to drop to 145 to look good?
it's already suffering trying to get below 185
how can i stop being a manlet?

>>76907743
Yeah you probably do have to cut down a lot. I'm not sure what your height is but I feel for my short kings. There's always limb lengthening surgery. I'd get that shit no cap fr fr on God. I think about getting it even at 6' desu. Dating is unreal in 2025

>>76907713
>>not cutting anymore
do you have chiseled abs?

>>76907605
Im gonna shell out for a nose job. 7k isn't that tough to save up.

>>76907751
My little sisters make fun of me for being short, despite being 6'.
I can't imagine how brutal the dating scene must be for zoomies her age when they grow up.

>>76907733
Thanks. I like the idea of chatgpt. I used it once to try and create a meal plan, but you just gave me the idea of using it, but telling it what I want to eat that day and letting it tell me the amounts I need to hit my macro calorie goal. Seems pretty based. Thanks for your thoughts.

>>76907826
I want to breed your sister so bad

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>>76907755
nothing to write home about, there would be still a lot of cutting to do, but I want to lean bulk for a couple of months, refeed my system to battle chronic injuries better and so on, I will surely be back near spring

>>76907840
CLEAN
THE
MIRROR

>>76907826
The trick is to date a girl who is mid and not on social media often. Average dudes trying to get Stacys are done for.

>averaged a 1400 deficit from diet alone for the past week
>weight is unchanged
I guess weight fluctuates too much.
Maybe instead of a goal weight I try to reach I will just have a calorie budget that I must stick to instead.

>>76907874
ur not eating 1400

>>76907874
Your body adapts to the setting you place it in. Live like a caveman, it'll start resembling one. Amerifat around, you'll start looking like one. There's no talmudmackig to it.

>>76907882
This is the reading comprehension of an oxygen starved lard-brain.

>>76907887
i was trying to say u arent tracking correctly, idiot

Tried new thing this morning
>instant coffee
>low fat milk mixed with scoop of protein powder
>238 calories
>37g protein
>800ml of protein coffee to hold me over till lunch
HELL YEAH

>>76907743
yes lol unless you have several years of lifting experience/muscle mass built up. i'm the same height as him except 10 lbs lighter but he looks much better than I do despite the weight difference because he has more muscle mass. If you have no muscle mass you're gonna have to get to a pretty low weight to not look like shit

>>76907908
>low fat milk mixed with scoop of protein powder
does it taste ok?

Is anyone else doing caloric cycling? I heard it helps mitigate metabolic adaptation. It's basically
>Keep same weekly deficit
>Just distributed differently on different days
>Highs and Lows.

>>76907933
>>low fat milk mixed with scoop of protein powder
Yeah it's basically the ultra filtered one, like fairlife. So low fat, but same amount of protein as regular milk. The protein powder taste all depends on what you're using. You gotta pay the premium if you want good taste for that.

>>76907905
Over longer periods my tracking is completely accurate and I lose what I expect.
I have been eating most of the same things too so theres no way I just magically tracked it wrong by such a huge margin.
Weight is just inconsistent for short periods of time like a single week.

>>76907935
I sort of am. It's gouda. I eat the most on heavy lift days, lighter on normal lifty days, and the least (but almost entirely protein) on rest days.

>>76907831
Anytime. Don't forget to buy a food scale if you don't have one. You'll need it. Measure everything. Weigh yourself twice a day after you piss and shit, once in the morning once at night. You will yo-yo and the. You'll go down a lot. That's just the way it is. Trust progress pictures more than the scale. Good luck buddy

>>76907953
I've been thinking of trying it, doing the same, heavier days on lifts, lower on rest. But it looks grim if I'm to keep 200ish grams of protein on the low days. Last time i tried it i felt so low energy from the lack of carbs i couldnt even go for a walk for more than 30mins.

>>76907957
>he doesn't live his life on a giant scale
>doesn't wear scale shoes with constant data collection
ngmi mindset

>>76907961
Try different lyft routines with it. I don't do any extra cardio during winter (the cold handles that part passively), but I cycle everywhere. I used to have PPLPPL, where I do the heaviest lifts at the start of the week, but am now doing PPLPP or PPPPL with the heavies on the 2nd days. I'll propably start doing 5x5s next year for 3 weeks, then 3 weeks 3-4x8-12 and deload.

>>76907976
Oh no lift days is perfectly fine. I do basically 1900 calories
>2150 on lift days
>1713 on rest days
the problem is on rest days, i try to atleast do 10k steps, and purely because almost all of the 1713 calories is pure protein, i feel low energy from no carbs or fats. Was considering maybe dropping my protein goal on rest days to the minimum for my weight to allow more energy.

>>76907874
it's more likely that you're not actually eating only 1400 calories than you're defying the first law of thermodynamics

>>76907935
I'm doing keto, and trying out an 8-weeks on, 2-weeks off approach which has been working well. Apparently if you stick to strict keto for too long your body will "forget" how to properly metabolize carbs which can cause issues, so they recommend taking 2 weeks to stay at the same calorie deficit, but re-incorporate a moderate amount of carbs. Helps to keep everything running smoothly, and since you're already fat-adapted it's pretty easy to settle back into keto once the 2 weeks are up

>had a bowl of ramen with 6 slices of ramen and 2 onigiri rice balls(fried shrimp and karaage)
It's so over for me....

>>76907595
Offtopic weeaboo loser this is not /a/ to post your faggot crap

>>76908030
new fag

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>haven't eaten like a pig for 35 whole days
are you guys proud of me?

>>76908030
You must be new here. Theres a weeb that makes these generals and if you dare and try to make a non weeb general he throws a hissy fit.

design me a fartless diet

>>76908052
def do high protein. 200+ grams a day. :^)

>>76907985
You can always carboload the day before rest days. I dedicate my resties to pure rest, but do have a high carb meal after the last gym of the week. It's more about the glycogen stored in the inflammated muscle tissue more than the blood sugar levels.

>>76908095
id love to do nothing but rest on rest days, but 4 days a week of 10k steps seems too good to pass up as extra fat loss, you know?

>>76908099
>>76908095
On second thought, Ill expirement and try maybe doing less steps on rest days. See how it feels.

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>gonna be under 190 soon
>not happy at all
But at least number go down, right?

>>76908110
you're more attractive to men now though, congrats!

>>76908110
Im 185 and hate how I look too
If I dont like how I look at 150 im gonna rope

I'm eating my green powder, but I'm not sure if it really does anything. How do you think scientists measured that vegetables improve well being?

>>76908102
Fucking around and finding out is the name of the game, fren. I just have 1 or 2 rest days a week, and my gym sessions are 5-6x100-140min/week. 5-6 dedicated to push, pull and legs + 3 core workouts (Tue, Thu and Sat). Cycling to the gym and back is 30min daily, but I don't count that as cardio. I've done a few 25+km rides last week, it certainly does boost my cycling endurance. As Spring comes along I'll propably start rooning to the gym on upper body days, and near to Summer I'll add swimming too.

>wake up this morning (thank you God)
>weigh in
>eat
>suddenly get urge to poop
>poop a lot
>weigh in is now ruined
guess I'll find out how much I actually weigh tomorrow...

>>76908236
s-swimming to the gym?

>>76908259
There's a river splitting my city that I need to cross daily... But there are a few gyms with pools that I was thinking about going to instead of the one I'm going to now. We'll see.

>between 240 and 280 my entire adult life
>never shave beard because double chin
>get down to 185
>decide to shave on a whim
>I actually look decent
Holy fuck. Cant imagine what another 25-30 lbs is gonna do for me.

Today at the gym I went to the cables to do warmup rear delts. There's 2 treadmills a few feet from me, facing me. Two cute zoomettes going in average pace. As soon as I Jack Hughman the girls fasten their pace, get a bit giggly. The other one keeps talking, the other one keeps saying "Not now... I can't..", then a whisper in low voice "I need to use the toilet after this.."

After the workout when I got into the locker room I walk to my things in the corner, put some water in my shaker and cool down a bit standing around. A zoomer guy comes in, notices his stuff's next to mine. He hastly gathers all his belongings in his hands and brings it to the opposite side of the room, sets them in a really crowded place. Now I have a full 6' x 6' space all to myself. This is it. I'm entering chaddom.

Normally I get glances from grils, the usual eye contact etc. but lately it's all been elevated. More orbiting around me, more matching my breaks and general pace of sets.

I checked my smell, wasn't too bad. No shit in pants either.

Am I doing anything if I add weight to my bag while I walk?

>>76908320
it's called rucking and is actually really beneficial. Helps to have a bag that fits well on you and can handle the additional weight. Don't want to fuck your lower back up because your bag is shit

>>76908304
lol yeah, it's crazy how much fat loss changes your face. I went from being outright hideous to decent looking.

>>76907823
i sincerely hope you leave it at that and don't end up going down the road that celebrities do where they end up looking weird as fuck from all the procedures they do chasing "perfection"

>>76908374
post face

>>76907595
Hey anons, I gained a bit of weight (am at 170 but was at 150 a few months ago) , I do best with weight loss when I eat the same thing everyday and make eating boring. How are these as my daily meal
>Greek yogurt with flax seed, banana and nuts(500 calories)
>rice and beans (1000 calories)
I'm thinking I might start putting in a packet of tuna in the rice and beans to get a bit more protein.

>>76908383
fine I'm still ugly, but compared to 300 pound me I'm good looking

>>76907874
how often do you weigh yourself?

I can lose the weight of my fat but how do I lose the weight of my sins

>>76908410
religion and/or therapy

>>76908052
your body will adjust to the higher protein intake and you'll stop getting the nasty protein farts after a few months. although i must say you have to stick to the diet otherwise they come back. i took a week break from my diet for a wedding and when i came back i got the protein farts all over again

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i've chosen to conclude today as a tie(maintenance kcal) because mom brought kfc home and i ate it... what am i suppose to do here, just eat non-fresh and microwaved kfc chicken and fries tommorow???

>>76908460
>fried chicken AND fries
NGMI

>>76908110
right

>eat 2200 calories instead of 1800.
Time to walk for 2 hours before bed

Gym done, plate of chicken and eggs in front of me. Not sure if best after gym meal, but it will do for now, feel like I need some sugar though... then off to do some steps/christmas shopping

>>76908552
Yeh, sure. Perfect after workout snack

>>76908552
Pic? Sounds good

Anyone else stop eating at 5PM?

>>76908569
I stop eating at 10am. OMAD is great

>>76908573
Wtf youre basically on 23:1? That sounds hellish.

>>76908585
it's honestly not that bad, you sleep through the worst of it and I'm not hungry the first few hours after getting up, so it aligns for me

I walk everyday for 1h30min and I avoid junk food
I just need to lose 4kg
Am I doing enough?
Sorry for bad english

>>76908599
if you're obese that's probably enough to drop 4kg. if you're a healthy weight you could still very easily be eating more than you're burning despite eating healthy foods

>>76908599
exercise is 10% of weight loss, if that. 90% of it comes from your diet. Provide more details

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raped my back doing pull ups (again) and now it hurts to sit down or stand or walk or do anything but lay in bed award

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>>76908599
>types perfect english
>sorry for bad english
why are esls like this

>>76907595
500 lbs, late 20s male.
Very low T like well outside the reference range.

I don't sleep well. On CPAP but still go to bed late which is my fault. And on the day I did my blood test I hadn't slept well. I am wondering whether I should go see an endocrinologist my doctor gave me a referral. Or should I just lose weight and improve my sleep. Anyone been in a similar situation

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6’6”
October 1: 249 lbs
Today: 225 lbs
Losing a pound about every 3 days. Feels good, man

>>76908654
highest I got was 490 a couple years ago, I'm around 360 right now. Your best bet (at least what worked for me to start) is to shorten the amount of times you eat in a day. Chances are you're eating 3-4+ meals a day, shorten that to 2. Either breakfast/lunch or lunch/dinner. That alone helped me drop 25-30 when I first started.

Your TDEE is likely in the mid-high 4,000s, so I'd restrict yourself to 2,200 calories a day. Sounds like a big cut but it's honestly not. Get a calorie counting app and start building the habit of tracking what you eat. Doesn't have to be perfect to start, but the goal is to build the habits first.

Try to restrict the amount of carbs you eat. Don't need to go autistic with the macro tracking, but cut out/severely restrict bread, pasta, rice, starches, etc. from your diet to start.

Also try to move around for at least 5-10 minutes a day to start. Whether it's doing a seated stretching routine or walking from one end of your space to the other a few times (I personally made a goal to do 25 jumping jacks a day to start, really made a difference).

This is also literal step 1 shit, and it all will end up passively improving the quality of your sleep. No need to worry about low T right now. I use a CPAP too and just doing those things I recommended will fix a lot of your issues within a few weeks.

>>76908679
Thanks man. A lot of the stuff you mentioned I have done, although I eat carbs but reduce fat, and I am planning to do. It's just I am wondering whether I should get on TRT or something like that. To see the endo I gotta pay like $150 or $300, I forget.

But I can also see myself dropping 100 lbs in 4-5 months and working on my sleep and that massively improving my T levels if not restoring them to within range.

>>76908552
>chicken and eggs
you sick fuck

>>76908683
I'd really try not to worry about the T levels dude, that's like 80th place on the priority scale of shit you should be worrying about. When you're at that level of weight (I know from experience) it's a genuine effort to maintain that level of consumption, let alone continue to gain. All you have to do is make small changes to see big weight reductions.

It might seem paradoxical, but I'd cut out the carbs and replace those calories with healthy fats instead. They'll keep you satiated way better than carbs will, and will also keep your ghrelin (the shit that causes hunger pangs) to not scream as loud

>>76908599
>Sorry for bad english
Apology not accepted

>>76908654
>500 lbs,
How?

>>76908700
Stress from poor sleep. Failed diets which lead you gain back more weight than you lose. Periods of overeating. Drinking calories. Being sedentary.

>>76908691
> it's a genuine effort to maintain that level of consumption,
It's funny because I don't eat massive amounts either. There are definitely days where I hit 5000. But most are probably around 4000.

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>>76908709
>I don't eat massive amounts either
>most are probably around 4000

Sometimes you can just tell that some people are just NGMI.

>>76908709
ur a joke fat shit stop eatin

>>76908710
Massive relative to my weight. Definitely don't eat 6000 or 8000.

>>76908715
you are fat

>>76908718
ngmi fat fuck go eat 10k cals waste of oxygen

>>76908654
post bod perhaps? also how tall r u?

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>>76908654
> 500 lbs, late 20s male.
620 lbs also 20s here 5’8” I haven’t been able to use a toilet in over 5 years bc I break them. I have to use a bedpan. Get on my level

>>76908654
ur cooked gang over

>>76908386
Eat way more protein you fucking dunce. Like 150 grams of protein a day if you want to weigh 150.

>stop eating chips (fries for my amerifriends)
>stop eating white potato
>stop eating sweet potato
>food tastes better
>don't feel bloated
>don't have to fart constantly
Fuck potatoes

Isn't the recommended protein intake whatever your bodyweight is plus lifting?

>>76908759
Nibba potatos are the GOAT. Fuck you.

>>76908771
Fuck potatoes all my homies hate potatoes fuckin hobbit ass vodka ass potato loving fuck

why is life so hard as a fat broke black nigga.. It's a chinese world.

If your BMI ain't 100 you're not fat enough

>>76908796
If you're black then it's because of ypipo, just ask spike lee

>>76908803
the ypipo gabe me diabetes to farm my incomes to the pharmaceuticals for diversity statistics.
the ypipo gabe me high glucose food with systemic racisms instead of leafy green veggies.
the ypipo systemically oppress me for they fear my healthy ways with the kfcs.

>>76908812
Finally you understand
You overeating, ypipo
You not exercising, ypipo
Ghetto culture being glorified along with drug pushing and alcoholism, ypipo from the CIA

>>76908816
why do ypipo want diabetes type 1 street niggas?

Long time lurker here fat/ with a simple question, what is the most effective way to get rid of insulin resistance? My ma got her anual physical and she scored quite high in her blood sugar (almost pre diabetes) and shes freaking out quite a lot. Shes not unhealthy in any way and she is quite alright fitness wise (she is around 10 kgs from her normal weight however) and I want to help her in every step of the way being the boomer that she is she thinks now she has to jump on metformin and that her life is over (it isnt)

>tldr mom got the prebeetus and I want to get her back into shape whats the best most holistic way to normalize her levels without involving actual medications

>>76908817
the CIAs motives are too complex for me to comprehend

>>76908831
Eat 15 grams or less of fat and have her eat regular meals consisting of starches, especially breakfast

>>76908831
And 0.55g per lb of body weight of protein and have her resistance train at least once a week

>>76908836
do you think if I write an email to the CIA help line they will explain the plot to type 1 susceptible street niggas, or is this to top secret to know the true CIA agendas?

>>76908831
I haven't done much research but I've always heard keto + intermittent fasting is great for stopping prediabetes and even diabetes in some cases. Of course losing weight will help a lot too, 10kg overweight is a lot for a woman

>>76908839
OH GOD OH FUCK THE CIAS FOUND A NIGGA. THE KFC MIND CONTROLS ARE TAKING OVER I'VE ALREADY ORDERED A 20 PIECE WITH CORN AND FRIES. LAWD HELP ME.

Pollo Tropical is a god send
>just chicken and rice
>still fast food so it's fulfilling being a lazy fatass

>>76908831
diet and exercise to lose the excess 10kgs
get her to eat more protein
500kcal deficit if counting calories would work for her
walking and some basic full body dumbbell routine is enough exercise wise
she could reverse all that in less than a year

13 hours till supper :-(

Will losing weight make me happy?
Cause it ain't working yet

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Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 93.3 kg

Overall Progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjknWAV7-b0

The problem with fasting for me is that I'm going to be insatiably hungry the whole day after I break it.
I think it's an evolutionary thing, like my body's saying "stock up on calories while you still can". It even feels different from regular hunger, it's less intense, more like a constant nagging feeling.
I tried something different a few days ago where I consumed nothing but milk and protein for two days, around 1000 calories worth each day. I felt pretty much normal, my stomach wasn't upset and my shits were fine. I think I'm just going to do that instead from now on.

>>76908951
good stuff anon, stay locked in

>>76908955
The feeling you're getting is you starting to connect with your body, shrimple as. No need to look for evolutionary explanations to feelings of this moment, just know that your whole evolution contains a template for you to be able to very fluently communicate with your body.

Now, there are many variables that affect what your body is craving. Only you know the answers to those variables (glycogen/carbs, hormonal support/fats, bodily or hormonal functions/prots, hormone micros/vitamins, calorie related/thermogenesis), learning about them is part of the journey.

i ate ice cream

>>76908985
If you're doing iron man mode you know it's game over and you need to start all over from the very start, and there's no button to skip the cut scenes

>>76908993
>iron man mode
what

>>76908996
Ironman mode in games is a permadeath/restricted save feature, forcing players to live with all consequences, preventing reloads, and often disabling trading or multiplayer interaction, popular in titles like Europa Universalis, XCOM, and RuneScape. It significantly increases difficulty and immersion by making mistakes final.
Common features of Ironman Mode
Permadeath: Death is permanent; no reloading to a previous save state.
Single Save File: Only one save file exists, usually auto-saved at critical points (end of turn, month, etc.), preventing save scumming.
No Load/Reset: You cannot load earlier saves or restart chapters/encounters to undo mistakes.
Achievement Locking: Often required to unlock certain achievements or a separate difficulty flag.
Restricted Interaction (RuneScape/OSRS): In MMOs, it restricts trading, group content, and player interaction, making the player self-sufficient.

>>76909002
okay how does this apply to dieting tho

>solves fatness and managed to reach 57kg
>starts losing hair
Can't catch a break huh

>>76907687
Looking good bro. Great progress. Keep it up.

>>76909022
Dude how short are you?

>>76909019
Lurk here more and find out the drastic self-hatred induced punishments some people (who seem to very much be on nightmare+++ & ironman modes) apply on themselves.

>>76908320
Yes.increasing caloric expenditure.

>>76908410
Depends on your religion

>>76908759
You may be sensitive to nightshades. Try eating some eggplant and see if that bloats you as well.

>>76907840
>lean bulk
wtf is this? eating at tdee while lifting hard?

>>76909056
Means eating a shitload of healthy stuff to have a caloric surplus instead of downing donuts and pizza

>>76909068
sounds sketchy. don't try it for more than 2 weeks before reassessing.
unless you're working out really hard, i cannot see them NOT becoming fat

>>76907935
an anon posted a study about this shit.
the group that did 48 hours refeeds had 40 caloroies higher base metabolic rate than the group that didn't.

>>76908045
yes. very proud

i bought a big plastic water jug to drink out of. it said on the label that it holds eight glasses of water so if i drink at least one of those every day i think i'll be covered. i heard that drinking water helps your body get rid of fat. can anyone explain that one to me?

>>76907935
i think its only natural to eat a bit more some days and a bit less on other days, I just check the averages every now and then

>>76909087
fill belly with water, 0 calories and you cannot put any more matter into yourself.
its a volume game.

>>76909087
Your body gets rid of fat as you breathe
Water doesn't make you breathe

>>76909071
What are you talking about?

>>76909087
The chemical process of your body's fat stores getting mobilized uses water. So making sure you drink enough water means you can maximize fat loss. If you're dehydrated, you might not burn off all the fat that you could.

Why does it take so fucking long to lose weight yet I could put on 10 lbs in a week if I wanted to

>>76909144
Because life doesn't happen in reverse

>>76909144
Because civilization outpaced evolution.

>>76909151
Agriculture is just efficient, and we're not the only species doing it. Whales sort of have a similar thing going on. Civilization itself is one of the leading causes of trauma & trauma responses, even when evolution has given us healthy ways of coping.

>>76909144
You cannot consume an extra 35000 calories in a week. I hope.

>>76909177
>5k calories a day
You can get 2k calorie drinks
5k in a day is easily doable

>>76909187
5k or 5k extra?

rule 1 of weight loss: don't eat if you are not hungry. that's all it takes.

When I track my walking session with google fit what is a good net calorie loss estimate? I'm pretty sure the number it gives is too high, is 5/6th of it a good rule of thumb?

>>76909341
Don't count those calories into your deficit anon. Never take workout calories into account when calculating how much you can eat. Workout calories are wildly inaccurate unless you got fancy lab equipment. Just take them as bonus fat loss.

Thoughts on maintenance windows during cutting? E.g. 8 weeks cut, 2 weeks maintain, then 8 weeks cut again?

>>76909105
i don't believe in lean bulk

>>76907595
>>76905165
Eat a god damn salad you mentally ill freak. I have been lifting weights and counting every fucking calorie for the last 5 years, it's called discipline you lazy fuck. Rome wasn't built in a day, and this hot bod I have developed over a life of toil was no easy task. You can't just skip cardio, there are no rest days put the fork down get your head in the game. I lift diligently and intuitively, push pull legs cardio this is how I built this physique and I never eat one calorie if I'm not going to be using it you fatty fat fatty. You treat your diet like a joke, why would I want to get fat when I can build muscle eat less lift more it really is as simple as that. You stupid lard shit swine make me sick, look at my progress pics look how much bigger I got once I stopped fucking around with my fitness yeah you fuckin jealous gaylord you gonna start fingering your butt drop down and give me 50 then we can start running then we can start lifting.

>>76909372
Reality isn't based on what you believe.

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>>76909341
They overestimate a lot, especially if it's based on weight and you are obese. I'd track 50% at most.

>>76909360
Can be good psychologically as it gives you a mental break. Then you can focus and lock-in for the cutting phase. From what I've read, there isn't much physical difference if the calories in/out are the same.

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>Eating 220g protein daily for gains
>The protein farts are so fucking vile
thank fuck i live alone.

>>76909381
hence, i didn't dismiss it entirely and told you to re-assess in 2 weeks.

>>76909390
Yeah, I’m skeptical as well of diet breaks. I’ve read it helps reset the hormonal household and supposedly contributes to softening the jojo effect. But I’m giving it a try and we’ll see.

>>76909478
>Yeah, I’m skeptical as well of diet breaks.
I just finished a 2 week maintenance break. Honestly I feel its unneccesary unless you're in the last few lbs of your weight loss and you've been dieting for a long time. It does more harm by delaying weight loss for 2 weeks than good. Also i felt like shit eating more than i was used to for those 2 weeks. Not to mention eating at maintenance feels weird, like you can never be 100% accurate with what your maintenance is, so i might have gained a bit of weight during those 2 weeks, since i didnt bother weighing myself during the break.

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>People tell me I should be taking creatine to maximize performance at the gym
>I don't wanna deal with the water retention
Am I retarded? Should I just do it and deal with the potential water retention scale stall for the next 3-4 weeks?

starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8
current weight: 90.9 kg 10/12
goal weight: 70 kg
height: 179 cm

method: rolling 72s with water and coffee

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16 kilos to go
I can reach that by April

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>>76909079

>>76909619
Think long term anon. You don't have 16 kilos to go, you have N decades to go (presumably)

>>76909638
>N decades
Nigger decades?

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>>76909580
ye for some reason im responding to fasting way better than any other shit
i omad with chicken and veggies but after the first night that 3 day fast is big chillin

though hows your sleep on the second night? im doing moderate exercise +my job and it always fucks me up second night i end up unable to actually get to sleep for hours

>>76909641
I can only assume

>Wake up, feel hungry
>Be good and don't give in to my hunger
>Eat all my calories for the day in one big meal
>Still hungry
What are your best hunger mitigation strategies? Am I just going to be mildly hungry forever now?

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>>76909670
>Eat all my calories for the day in one big meal

>>76909675
It's called OMAD
It's a good diet where you don't need to count calories

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>>76909682
>Being this retarded.

>>76909675
if it works it works faggot
just because you guzzle cum 5 times a day doesn't mean it works for everyone else

A question about appetite, I started going to [something like community college], I basically waste around 4 hours just going there, I usually have breakfast before going and dinner once I am back.
The thing is, while I am at home I always hungry, even after I have eaten, but when I am there, I am fine with not eating, I am never distracted by the idea of wanting to go back home to eat.

I feel like the answer to my appetite problem is somewhere here but I don't know how to replicate it at home.

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>>76909699
Triggered low IQ brownie.

>>76909675
Well what's the secret then faggot? I tried this one meal thing because you guys in these threads told me it was better than breakfast/lunch/dinner, and yeah it is, when I was doing the normal 3 meals I was way hungrier than I am now, but I'm still hungry after the one meal, just less so.

>>76909705
>le trolleing on an ethiopian cave painting board

bro we're fat retards, let sleeping dawgs lie

>>76909704
It means you eat habitually because you're bored/idle, you need to find something that occupies you, like a more active hobby or job.

>>76909706
>>76909708
I just find it amusing that you all are so easy to fall for meme diet plans, you will do anything other than apply some will power or discipline that is required to eat a balanced normal diet on a deficit.
>fasting
>water fasting
>omad
>buttmad
>nomad
>keto
>paleo
>carnivore
>ozempic
Just eat a normal balanced diet without goyslop and eat regular meals and WORK OUT.

>>76909716
So you've got nothing and you're just being a faggot. Got it.

>>76909710
I should have been more specific, that I imagine that to be case however it feels like nothing I try seem to do that.
>exercising (rare because other than lazyness I often have bronchitis)
>studying (japanese, programming)
>playing videogames
>working on my own biology project

>>76909720
Why are you so platinum assmad?

>>76909724
See, you've got nothing and you're just trolling for a response. Don't be fag.

>>76909732
>Gave you my opinion in detail
>HURR U GOTZ NOTHING SAAR! DO NOT REDEEM!
Dude...lmao.

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>>76909735
pulling out all the stops and coming up with this is pretty sad my boy

>>76909735
You're not clever.
You're not funny.
No one likes you.
Everyone would be happier if you'd just go away.

>>76909744
>>76909741
It's ok just admit you are brown and that's why my response triggered you this much. Not that I care about the opinions of non-whites.

I'm gunna eat carbs today.

>>76909752
might wanna call 988 there first buddy

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>second week on 1mg semaglutide
>not feeling a fucking thing
I bet I'm immune to this shit, that's how bad my luck is

>>76909022
hop on dutasteride immediately
do your research and don't fall for the "you'll lose your dick bro!!" meme

t. four years already on dut

>>76909771
why the fuck
wait what the fuck do you mean

>>76909784
huh? I'm saying that this is my second week on 1mg semaglutide and I don't feel lose of appetite
I've already done a whole month on 0.25mg, then another month on 0.5mg

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>>76909748
ur brown lmao, and short

>>76909022
how much did you lose and in what in timespan? rapid fat loss but fat loss in general is stressful and stress can cause temporary weight loss

>>76909579
a lot of people say creatine makes them bald and specifically that when they stop the hair comes back.

Just ate my daily egg burrito with salsa and a bowl of oatmeal. Feelin good.

>>76909787
but you're still restricting calories right? sorry im a bit retarded

>>76909813
i fucking love the fact that eg can be put in everything
i love eg

>>76909816
yeah I'm talking about the semaglutide effects like loss of appetite etc
semaglutide by itself doesn't make you lose weight, only calorie restriction does

>>76909832
again im retarded, isnt hunger a hormonal response? just ignore and drink water

>>76909823
Eg supremacy

>>76908759
potatoes are the food I miss most on a keto diet, used to eat 2-3 russet potatoes and eggs every morning for breakfast

>hungry
>make chicory tomatoes apple salad
>still hungry
>eat cucumber
>still hungry
How do I learn to tolerate hunger instead of having my internal voice shouting MAKE IT STOP FEED ME WE'RE GONNA DIE

>>76908843
this. I was deep into pre-beetus and right on the cusp of type 2, started having the sickly sweet piss and had a come to jesus moment. Started doing keto + IF and it completely reversed my symptoms and raised my insulin sensitivity. I'm much farther along than your mom is, and from what my doc told me even if you go keto early on in type 2 (like 3-6 years post-diagnosis) it's still possible to reverse and put it into remission.

If she starts right now she'll be fine in a few months. Just treat keto as a tool, not a permanent lifestyle change

>>76909087
hydration is essential to fat loss, if you're even a little dehydrated it stresses your system and diminishes its ability to passively burn fat. Great call on the water jug, try to always stay hydrated

Do you ever worry about cholesterol on keto?
I love liver, but it's basically the waste dump of saturated fat so it's as unhealthy as it gets.

>>76909144
you're biologically incentivized to store fat because we used to be nomadic hunter-gatherers who would normally go days without eating. To give you an idea of how slow this evolutionary process is to catch up, it still hasn't adapted from the agricultural revolution and us moving away from that lifestyle 12,000 years ago

>>76909341
NEVER factor in calorie loss from exercise into your eating calorie deficit. Just treat it as a bonus fat loss that passively builds up

>>76909647
i sleep well

>>76909360
I've been doing the 8 weeks on, 2 weeks off thing with some success. As long as you stick to the caloric deficit during the off weeks you'll still continue to burn fat and lose weight, and the adjustment back into your diet will be much smoother

Day 2 of no caffeine. Yesterday was tough. Surprised that I had no headaches. But apparently they start day 2-5. Hunger through the roof. Ended up eating a bunch of dumplings. Went over my calories by 600. Unsurprisingly scale went up today from water bloat. Workout was rough, had to lower the weight on a few exercises. Same with cardio time. It's rough lads. But I am committed 13 more days til I unfuck my brain.

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>wanted to be sub 200 before 2026
>probably gonna be sub 190
Am I supposed to be happy?

>>76909026
Thanks anon

>>76909722
how often are you incorporating food into those non-exercise activities? One of the big hangups I've been dealing with on my journey is that all my hobbies had food weaved into it in some way. If I was watching a movie it'd be while eating food or popcorn, if I was playing vidya it'd be while I was eating a fast food burger or a coke, if I was studying it'd be while I was chugging down a shake or junk food, etc. Once I decoupled all the food from those hobbies it honestly took some of my enjoyment of them out of it for a while. Starting to come back slowly, but it's a genuine struggle. That might be why you feel so hungry when you're doing it, might've pavlov'd yourself into enjoying shitty food while doing them

>>76909913
nope, as long as it's not overly processed, you can have way more cholesterol than is normally recommended. I'm assuming you're referring to eggs primarily? I got my labs done a little bit ago after a few months of strict keto and everything was normal. I wouldn't worry about it too much, cholesterol has gotten a really bad rap, as long as you're not eating 20 eggs a day you should be fine

>>76909940
keep at it anon. Make a point of staying hydrated, any small amount of dehydration can exacerbate the headaches and shitty feelings you get from the caffeine withdrawals

>>76908739
620, nice! I was almost 700 at my heaviest. Down below 500 now. Still have to use a bedpan as well… idk why toilet seats are so fucking fragile, you’d think they’d make stronger ones for big boys like us. What are you doing to lose weight? Taking baby steps worked for me, focus on diet to start losing and then exercise.

>>76909960
yeah if you are 400 or higher, just get to 300 first through diet alone, then exercise and by exercise walk or use some kind of cardio machine. buy one and keep it in your garage or living room. dont go to the gym and lift weights YET.

>>76909973
100%. When you’re almost 700 lbs just walking can put a giant strain on your body. I’d start just walking around my house but couldn’t really do more than that until I seriously started losing weight. Hoping to be below 400 by the end of Q1

>tfw had fried chicken
>tfw 1300kcals
>tfw the day isn't over yet
i fucked up hard, 1,000kcalsbros

>>76910004
As long as you make it yourself fried chicken isn’t actually that bad for you. It’s all the seed oils and chemicals and shitty ingredients fast food places use that make it unhealthy.

>>76908410
by doing good and stopping the sinning behavior

>>76910007
i didn't make it myself

I'm at 26,6% BF. I've lost 25 lbs in the last 4 months. I don't know the bf% value I had when I was starting.
Is it possible to get down to sub-20 bf% by end of February?

>>76908460
should've ditched the fries and removed the skin at least

>>76910011
Oof. Rooky mistake. It’s not hard, usually doesn’t take more than 15 minutes to make and always tastes better and crispier homemade, just bust out the cast iron skillet and make it happen

>>76908628
how the fuck did you manage to do it?
which part of your back is hurt?

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>>76909942
yes imagine you were the retard from before

>pull an all nighter
>hunger disappears
So I can shave 20% lifespan by fucking up my weight or I can shave it by fucking up my sleep
Decision decisions

>go from 260 to 180 in 7 months
>looking good
>feeling myself too much
>shave my beard
>I still have a double chin and look like shit
Yeah im thinking im upping my calorie deficit to 1750. 3lbs a week here we go.

>>76910048
You need to light weights and not just diet. That’s your problem

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>>76910030
>trying to finish a set of pull ups
>don't have the strength and im tired
>try to do the last rep quickly by doing an explosive motion to bring myself up to the bar
>it doesn't work
>now I have a sharp searing pain on my lower neck, upper back
>moving my arms above my head hurts
>moving my neck hurts
>walking hurts
>laying down on a pillow hurts
its not the first time, I'll have to deal with this shit for 2-3 days before it gets better

>>76910053
hopefully you have learned a valuable lesson from all this.

>>76908831
resistance to insuling due to insuling being high all the time so she should lay off the sweets, the breads, the pastas, the rice and so on.
not necessarily hardcore keto but of course hardcore keto is better.
let her hop on metformin if it doesn't bloat her like hell but lifestyle changes are miles better so she should still lay off sugary shit.

>>76910053
i'm going to pull it out of my ass but your form is shit.
i think you're not doing scapular pulls before every rep.
do pullups properly before trying to do their variations.
buy a resistance band to exercise through failure.

>>76909912
>hydration is essential to fat loss
is this why i'm stalling?

>>76909579
Do you understand why creatine makes your muscles retain water, how it affects them? If your ultimate goal is to see the magical number on a man made tinymanlet screen be as small as possible you shouldn't take creatine. Creatine maxes your lifts and the fluid metabolism makes you spend more energy and get larger volume inflammation for it, in the long term you get to your strength and hypertrophy goals a lot faster. If things like str and big muscles aren't your thing I suggest you stay off creatine supplements, and to be on the safe side all foods that contain it.

>>76909144
fat cells don't die -fast- so it's piss easy to regain weight.
but actually gaining a new 10lbs of fat in a week is not easy. it can be water weight and done in a day full of carbs.

You give it other things to worry about, such as muscle breakdown from lifting.

>3 days pf 1,000kcals
>+2lbs
h-haha

>>76909919
Even more than that we're cousin fucking ameba who eat plankton

>massive shitstorm at work yesterday
>had to put out fires all day/this morning
>hunger has been completely non-existent this whole time
>30 hours w/o eating at this point
is that the solution? Just spike your cortisol every time you get a hunger pang?

>>76909670
baked potatoes. not OMAD so you can eat th whenever you're hungry

>>76910071
probably

>>76909848
not him but fuck you.
semaglutide is supposed to make you not want to eat at all and if you ate your usual fat meals you vomit them right away.
>>76909771
some people don't respond at all to this shit.
F

>>76910015
theoretically, yes. but if you hit a stall like me, you won't make it.

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Daily morning weigh ins are a rollercoaster.

>>76910145
I couldn't do it, the fluctuations were crushing my mental health. Switched over to weekly weigh-ins and have been much happier

>>76910145
so don't weigh every day, dunce

>>76909951
That was certainly a thing for me. I had created a habit of playing vidya while stuffing my face and I'd play vidya that allowed me to stuff my face while playing it. I got into VR as a way to decouple the two, its really hard to eat most foods while playing games in VR.

>>76910176
Nah, weigh yourself everyday if you like but just come to expect the variation, daily weigh-ins are a great way to catch yourself if you start to slip. I weigh myself daily and log my weight daily, every morning after my morning piss/shit I log my weight on my phone, but that number isn't my 'number', I keep a 7-day average that I look at, the average is my number, that's the number I obsess over, not the daily one, if that number go up by more than a few percent I know I'm fucking up.

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>>76910176
I like being able to scroll through the daily data points and watch the downward trend. And it's part of a ritual that keeps me accountable because I think about my weight each morning. It'll be so fun to scroll through this when I have a year of data points.

>>76907595
I've gone from 251 lbs to 231 lbs in a little under a month!! Really proud of the loss but I'm also a little concerned — is it supposed to be this fast? Will my rate of loss slow down? I really don't want a bunch of loose skin so I'm trying to lose at a reasonable pace but my body doesn't seem to agree lol. I'm aware it can't be all fat so is it just water weight? I'm stupid pls help

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6 months on carnivore
Compared to 1 month in, my HDL increased 18 points
My LDL went down 30 pts
My triglycerides went down from 115 to 58 (lol)

I've also lost ~20 pounds
I expected my LDL to be higher desu

>>76910235
4 pounds a week is like a 14,000 calorie deficit, that could be a person's weekly energy needs. If you used to eat a really high carb diet and now you're low- or no-carb that could account for some of it because carb intake is a major factor to how much water you retain. If you're barely eating anything and/or working out heavily daily then you could get your numbers I suppose

>>76910250
Yeah that's why I was really confused
Maybe my scale is broken...

>>76910199
>>76910225
You guys can handle it but that guy clearly can't. He should just stop doing that. He's not going to become resilient or smart overnight.

>>76910225
You do realize the trend line shows even with less datapoints? You sound like you've replaced an unhealthy obsession with another one, and when the weight loss stalls, or even turns to gain (muscle growth) the thin thread of your mental resilience breaks and into a personal hell you go. Good luck with that, captain.

I'm hungry
I want to push past 190 finally so i'm on a slim diet. I think i can do it by tomorrow if i try really hard because I'm 190.6 today
I might keep pushing like this until Christmas and hopefully be done with my diet

>>76910225
>over 300lbs
>only lost 9lbs in a month

>>76909579
is your number 1 priority building muscle mass so that you actually look good once you reach your goal weight? or is your number 1 priority simply just scale go down at any cost? if the former, take creatine. if the latter, don't take it. I'd go with the former though, because if not you'll be in for a big surprise when you reach your goal weight and still look like shit.

>t. someone that only focused on scale going down and ended up looking like shit

>>76909056
very small surplus and gaining like 0.5kg a month

>>76910371
This is sage advise. I’d rather be fat that skinny fat. Lifting is integral, at least 3x days a week. 4 days is ideal tho

>>76910015
height? weight? are you lifting?

>>76908831
cut carbs, start working out anything even as small as cycling will help

>>76909453
you do not have 220lbs of lean mass on you nor are you sub10%bf

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Is it okay to skip a meal if I'm just not hungry?
I haven't been eating dinner lately

>>76909682
>It's a good diet where you don't need to count calories
you always need to count calories

>>76910424
Yes, just as long as you get enough protein/ nutrition. Also why are you posting gay men?

>>76909771
increase dose or switch to a different glp-1

>>76910380
yeah 100%. first time around I went from 225 to 150 without lifting at all and I still looked like shit. Was I kinda skinny? Yeah, but I didn't exactly look in the mirror with amazement every time i saw myself shirtless. Because it was so underwhelming (and thanks to covid) I spiked back up to 190 over the course of a few years. This time around I lifted while dieting and I look like a completely different person at 170lbs

>>76910088
if you counted properly then, a whoosh is incoming
>>76910093
cortisol does do that but cortisolmaxxing is bad for your health
it has more to do with the fact that you were really focused on something important

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>>76910448
Congrats bro! Keep it up. Junk food and booze will never taste as good as looking good feels

>>76910429
that's a girl

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>>76910449
>it has more to do with the fact that you were really focused on something important
yea mostly focused on having mini-panic attacks, but if that's what it takes so be it

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if ur above 200 pounds ur opinion is worthless to me

>>76910485
If you’re under 6’ your opinion is worthless to me

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>>76910488
clav is on roids, he's 6'2, and he weighs 180-190 at 12% bf
you are a fat gay retard
if you don't look like this you have no business being 200 pounds

>>76910498
He looks like he’s 12 years old

>>76910485
>water is cope
The fuck does this even mean

>>76910449
>if you counted properly
idk anymore. i ate basic stuff like yoghurt, chicken, milk, baked potatoes and coffee.

>>76910535
sorry you're not retarded enough to get it, boomer
skibidi rizz dob dob yes yes fr

>>76910424
>pic
are you a boy or are you a girl?

>>76910485
he can shittalk while being young.
diet soda will cause constipation once you're an oldfolk who doesn't walk like me.

>>76910421
yeah you are correct, after i did more research i lowered my protein goal to 180g, allowing more clean carbs so i have more energy for lifts and cardio.

>>76910371
Fair enough, creatine monohydrate is what i need right? 5mg a day?

>>76910597
Just follow what’s on the tub. I do one capful before I workout. Just throw it in your water bottle. Then protein shake after you’re done working out. Has to be within 30 minutes

>>76910611
alright, im buying one amazon rn, guess i can mix it in with my protein shake before i hit the gym. thanks anon. just gotta ignore the scale and keep grinding.

>>76910597
yeah creatine monohydrate. I personally take micronized creatine monohydrate capsules because the powdered form made my stomach hurt like crazy for some reason.

long shot, but did that anon ever get an answer about why his veins just randomly disappear throughout the day? ever since I read that I've noticed that my forearm veins will randomly go from sticking out like crazy to not even being visible (not even the green outline of the vein beneath the skin). how the fuck does this happen? seems more common when i'm cold but also happens at other times

>>76910647
Alcohol maybe? Back when I was drinking I would experience the same, sometimes. It’ll cause your hands and feet to go to sleep as well as it constricts your blood vessels

>>76910665
couldn't be that for me at least. I drink only a couple times a year. Had to quit drinking regularly because I was a straight up alcoholic

>>76910093
True fast are an interesting experience, but doing it with volition is HARD.

is there a cardio exercise that doesn't require a lot of movement? preferably, no movement at all.
i know deadhangs are pretty good for beginners but now i can't hang for a minute and lose my breath like i used to.

>>76910676
My wife got a peloton earlier this year and she loves it. It was “free” too bc it was covered by her HSA. If you’re not into cycling I’d recommend rowing or swimming but that’s probably too much moving for you?

>>76909912
Where do you guys get retarded made up shit like this s2g

>>76910676
Just get in a pool and tread water. Fat makes you float so it’s literally 0 stress cardio

>>76910676
lmao fat shit

>>76910689
>>76910696
i hate the effort one has to go through for swimming.
and yes, those are too much movement too.
>>76910697
yes. i'm fat and i hate moving.

>>76910704
Current weight?

>>76910712
190

>>76910717
190 stone? dam son

>>76910721
190lbs
i'm a manlet so that's a lot.

>>76910503
no he doesn't

>>76910723
You’re not going to live past 45 if you don’t at least move, anon… wtf. Are you White?

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Im up to 3 donuts today

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Day 3 since I decided to lose weight at 1000 cal deficit. I'm down 3lbs already. I know it's 80% water weight but i still like seeing number go lower. Also losing the water bloat still makes you look better

>>76910731
>Are you White?
no. i'm brown.

>>76910763
>fat
>manlet
>non-White
Idk how you can keep going living ngl

fml already ate 5 brownies. No more food for me today.

>>76910676
what you're looking for is liposuction. except you'll gain it all back because all you want to do is bedrot

>>76910735
>wanting a new left 4 dead in modern day
theyd find a way to monetise sprays, fuck that shit nigga

>>76910803
One of my buddy’s mom got liposuction surgery for her 40th birthday from his dad. As soon as she recovered she went out and cheated on them and they were divorced within a year. She’s back to being fat as shit now

>>76910843
kek i can't say i'm surprised. always makes me laugh when women drone on about how much empathy they have then proceed to go out and do shit like that

>finally back on track making progress again after being set back by a wedding and thanksgiving
>weight going down, lifts going up
>wake up this morning with a scratchy throat

if i get sick i'm gonna fucking rope holy shit this world will literally do fucking anything to kill my progress

>lost some weight
>TDEE dropped
>must now eat less
wtf you guys said this would make things better

>>76910775
Kek fat fuck

I dont really have a problem with food. I think I'm alcoholic, and then eat a lot when I drink. Thats why Im going to try and fast for 14 days to detox, and see how my habits are after that. My weight gain did coincide with me getting my own place 4 years ago when I started sitting on the couch, binge drinking, and watching youtube until late night 2-3 times a week

>>76910850
You got a long time to live anon, I’m sure you’ll be fine

>>76910871
>I take things to the extreme with detrimental effects like drinking and eating too much and watching Youtube all day so now I'm going to fast too much

>>76910871
when I quit drinking i dropped 30 lbs without even having to do anything else. I promise you now if you quit drinking you'll feel so much better on a daily basis. leave drinking for special occasions, you're much better off that way and your body will thank you.

>>76910888
Checked. Fasting is good though if you do it for Spiritual reasons. I had a teacher back in HS that would do 40 day fasts every Lent. Fasting for weight loss is cope

>>76910893
fasting for 40 days as in basically omad?

>>76910892
>leave drinking for special occasions
Thats exactly what happened in my mind. This weekend, I had a few drinks at my friend's birthday party, and it was fun, but I remembered going to a party of his years ago and how much I looked forward to it to party. I realized alcohol has lost all its novelty. I have been slowly drinking more and more often over the last 4 years where it has lost some of its appeal. Don't know how I didn't realize it. It needs to be a special occasion thing.
>>76910888
The other extremes were gradual and built over 4 years. I'm trying a cold turkey approach while the iron is hot. I fasted before (before I got my own place) and it helped a lot, just never this long (7 days was my previous long). Everytime I would finish a fast I would eat healthy for a month without even trying.

>>76910893
I am mainly doing it to curb alcoholism, which should help with weight loss long term (and short).

I fear that if I run the stats, 10% of my diet will be tiramisu. But I don't want to run stats anymore.

>>76910906
No she literally wouldn’t eat for 40 days. Same as Christ