Eh, no tree roots or rocks to trip on.

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gotta get faster

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just wanna kiss claudia hollingsworth

>>76919212
5k is for children

>start thinking about a goal in terms of race distance and time, and look for a training plan for that goal
Why would I want to race? I just like to run.

>>76919267
The best environment to run is a race. It's exciting and spiritually satisfying. The energy will result in your fastest runs. If you do them enough, you will recognize others and make friends and rivals. Whatever the reason you like to run, a few sanctioned races a year will multiply your enjoyment. Don't let an ego and asocial tendencies hold you back.

>>76919252
His 18 min 5k is more impressive than your 5 hour marathon, fatty

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>>76919199
>heel strikers

>>76919199
wow look at dem go in da fern forests
so lucky :(
my dream was always to live near fern forests i just love ddat feel

>>76919355
Too bad it's an AI image
Forests aren't real, they're a made up biome designed by the greedy big shoe corporations to get more runners to buy trail shoes

>>76919360
there are definitely fern forests u dummy

>>76919283
I just run so I am away from my family for 1-2 hours. I am a competitive guy and all, but let's not act like running for mental and physical health isn't a great reason to do it.

>>76919370
yeh lots of them. I would put those two heel striking roasties in either a victorian or new south wales forest.

>>76919296
he'll surely fuck you now

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>>76919337
I'd heel strike if it got me a 15 minute 5k.. :(

>>76919370
Not ai it's Australian runner Natalie Rule running in the Yarra Valley. We have some pretty epic prehistoric looking rainforests it's like stepping into another world

>>76919390
asustralia has da forests??
i thought only deserts

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>>76919395
We have a bit of everything even snow if you go to the right places

lemme ask u guyz dis
y do u think all runners are such faggots?
is it inherent to da "sport" or is it because it attracts all da faggots, both men and women

>>76919402
are those special snow kangaroos, or u mite say "roos"
is dat a different species of "roo"
do u tink they're specially adapted to da elevations and da cold temps? will dey be?

Why am I not getting faster?

>>76919407
Looks like a wallaby not a kangaroo (different animal), but no they're not adapted to snow. Snow is rare they probably just woke up to snow one morning and were like wtf and went to have a look.

>>76919252
fast 5k > slow marathon

>>76919267
Racing is fun. Gives a specific goal and purpose to your training. Provides extra motivation to not be slacking. Gives you something to look forward to in your otherwise empty life.

>>76919620
FUCK, Man, thats gott asuck
if u aint used to snow and den it be snowin an shit and u aint got like, winter shit or whateve,r like winter fur

what are you running away from, anons?

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>>76919612
Gotta go fast to be fast. Try this workout: 1 mile repeats at 400m pace.

>>76919859
can I run away from this lame post posted in every thread

>>76919403
when you grow up you'll understand everyone's a fucking faggot and man's inevitable death is a sweet justice he whole heartedly deserves.

>>76920145
Yeh u sound healthy
All dat running is doin u. A lotta good keep it up

>>76919199
What smartwatches are you guys using?
I'm thinking of getting a forerunner 165 but could also get a 255 for the same price or a Coros Pace 3 for 20 € more, not sure which one's best

>>76920180
apple watch series 10

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>>76920177
eat shit and die, faggot

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>just ONE more km until i can officially jog 30k
Can I get some encouraging (you)s please???

>>76920180
instinct 3 solar for me

it has most of the fancy running stuff compared to the vivoactive because it's supposed to be 500$ or so. don't remember what features they are though, training status maybe? something to look out for. Maybe foreskinrunner already has it, but maybe they really want you to get a bigger number one and artificially limit the cheapest(?) model.

>>76920270
fuckkk man, u got da fucken solar joint??
i got my fucken instnicnt like...a couple months before they got da fucken solar shit
still got it still use my original instinct
im poor as fuck havent worked in 3 fucken years, b

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>>76920335
it actually makes a, whats that called, a cameo apperance in my mug collage picrel

>>76920338
im capacity nigga btw >>76920186

but, i dk if ill stick around here, i dont actually run i just come here to talk shit about runners.

i be doin sprints sometimes tho, cos that shit is high leverage, b. running is fucken...cattle shit, ur all fucken dumb cattle desu

>>76920206
trying to read this fucking thing upsets me somehow. what are these splits, why am i supposed to somehow figure out myself that these are mins/km wtf

what brand is this and why didnt you buy a garmin you nigger

>>76920338
nice mug. i'm quite partial to the ones with the squared off sides like that. do you know the brand?

>>76920180
165 is a nice basic watch, but limited. The 265 and pace 3 will have everything you need and for 90% of people everything you would want.
The Garmin will be a better “smart watch” , better screen, and has Garmins ecosystem which is more developed. COROS battery life best for what you are paying, and a lot of people/reviews say it’s more comfortable on the wrist. Its other selling point is it’s cheaper, but it sounds like you got a good deal on Garmins. I would say see if you can mess around in their UIs and see if one stands out for you. Either way, both should be great. (Own pace 3 btw)

>>76920345
ii like it too actually...dont see a brand anywhere tho...
my mom has like a wider ccircle or round one which i like too i think more

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>>76920340
ayo man dat be really funny a hee hee hee, a hee hee he did capadilly capacity whatchamacallit yo dis raid be like a womp bappa looa a womp bamboo namsayin nigger?

>>76920341
I just downloaded the first free running app I saw on my phone and I roll with it now, it also has the option of showing per km split time but it would be really long

>>76920385
yeah

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>used to run and lift often, five total workouts a week with friday night -> monday morning being taken up by work
>motivation during the year craters, gym maybe once a week, running never
>turn a new leaf this month, get back into it
>never used the garmin training plan, looks fun, set one up just to have a schedule to do
>first day of plan, go on 1 (one) 24min z3 run, on a treadmill so no cold exposure
>get sick for a week straight
zozzle, lol even

>>76920400
a-hee-hee-hee, a-hee-hee-hee

>>76920341
shits fucken retarted
everythin is so over designed
cos niggas gotta justify dey pay checks cos they are all actually useless cattle fucken morons
so they gotta just jam mad shit in everything
what u jus experessed is not ur fault
its shit absolute shit design

>>76919199
>kill and behead dog-walkers
What exactly did I do to you?

>>76920206
wtf is this? why didn't you just do 30k? is it another case of bad autism?

>>76920180
Foreskinner 255

Bought used about a month ago. Previously I had Polar Grit X. I have been very happy with my Garmin.

>>76920485
its my silly training plan of adding 1 km every week (i run once a week)

More of a shoe question than a running question. I've seen a lot of people with QC sneakers recently raving about how nice/comfortable they are. I have running shoes so these would purely be worn as an everyday comfort sneaker/walker type shoe.
Which QC is best?
There are Cloud 6's now https://www.amazon.com/Mens-Cloud-Black-9-5-Medium/dp/B0D31S5P2V?sr=8-1&psc=1
But most of what I saw people wearing were Cloud 5s https://www.amazon.com/Mens-Cloud-Sneakers-Black-White/dp/B0FCDQ8FTG?sr=8-9&psc=1
Or would the Cloud 4s be best? https://www.amazon.com/Mens-Cloud-Ivory-Black-Medium/dp/B0DM2QHV2Y?sr=8-32&psc=1

I know sometimes an older model might actually be preferred for a variety of reasons, so please let me know which of these you guys collectively prefer so I can tell my mom to get it for Christmas.

>>76919381
>but let's not act like running for mental and physical health isn't a great reason to do it.

That’s me for sure. It keeps me lean and acts as meditative thinking time. I don’t own any pairs of speed work shoes, just New Balance 1080 cruisers.

>>76920206
Idc what ppl tell you: way to go.

>>76920670
It's impressive but at the same time absolutely ridiculous.

Only have time to run at night and it's grim when it's so cold. Guess I should get a gym membership and treadmillmaxx, getting tired of not burning infinite calories a day anymore

>>76919381
My #1 reason is because I find it fun. It just so happens that it's benefical to both my mental and physical health.

>>76919612
gotta crank that cadence up to +190, anon

>>76921822
fuck that man just buy some warm clothes
unless it's dangerous underfoot conditions no need for the dreaded thr**dmill.

>>76919199
Posting this sexual content... you're making me want to chase girls

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>>76920206
(YOU)

>running requirement for job
>practicing for test
>just barely able to do 6mph for 15 minutes
>pass check somehow
>start new running plan, just for structure to training rather than it being good or anything.
>first day: run lesser of 45 minutes/4 miles at calculated 'easy' pace(uses vdot) which was ~4.7 mph for me
>mfw I beat it without a hitch
>mfw I have no face

What the fuck, was the secret to slow down all along? Also, yeah I'm a runlet; I hate running with every fiber of my being. I only run because I have to, my only goal is to make the running requirement easy, once I manage that Imma fuck right off.

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>>76921877
>gif

i've been running a lot lately, and lifting too. Instead of a marathon do you guys think my goal should be joining special forces? I heard they have an open tryout. I could always just not sign if I make it.

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Went for a run. It's cold out. Very foggy too.
I saw a heron by the river, wasn't expecting that this time of year.

>>76921822
if you're cold you're not running hard enough (unless you're in fucking Winnipeg and it's -40)

i want to be a masters sprinter but my lower back hurts :(

>>76919267

I like competing. I ended up on the podium once for a race I did and it was a rush.

>>76919612

You're probably not embracing pain. You get faster when you get to threshold and stay there. Most people(including myself for a long time) stop when they get to that point because it honestly hurts and your body wants you to stop. You just have to keep going.

>>76922046
Whats a masters sprinter?

>>76922077
Checked. Competing in the old cunt category of 40-45

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Ran 15 miles in the snow this evening. My legs feel destroyed, but I did see an owl.

>>76922113
Noice, seeing cute animals is my favourite thing about running. I usually see some ducks, a couple of small birds and a hare or deer if I'm lucky.

>>76921954
I definitely run hard enough I'm the Chad who got hurt running long distance with the weight vest, cold wind at night sucks

>>76922113
weird

dont fink i ever seen an owl but hear them all time

>Return from 3 week holiday
>Try and increase volume
>Right knee, slightly below kneecap to the right starts hurting if I do more than a leisurely pace
So do I just give up, become even more unconditioned or take it extremely slow?

>>76922234
weirdest fing seen was a badger

like you dont realize

they actually massive

like you wouldnt want one coming at you

and you hear bout dem coz

like they related to wolverines innit

very aggressive territorial animals


anudda weird fing i seen is like big dogs walking in the street no owner in sight

its so weird its likr

wtf is going on

just mindbogglin' how like idiotic you have to be to do let your dog do that

>anti-dog OP
must be terrible not being white

Summer is definitely here now, but I miss winter. Not just for the colder temperatures, but I miss running at night. It's already bright by 6am, and the vibes just aren't the same.

>>76922273
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4poMXXncoew

>>76922273
you don't run, go back to /pol/ fatass mutt

>>76922273
its very jarring coming across a dog eiv no owner

just bizarre

like the twilight zone

>>76922292
t. angry brown
>>76922317
yea, stray dogs are not great for lots of reasons
that wasn't OP's complaint, though

>>76922319
they arent even stray just shit owner no where in sifht

It was 9 degrees outside when I did my 10 mile run today. My breath was freezing on my eyebrows and the edge of my hat

>>76922348
shit don't freeze at nine degreez my nigga

>>76922355
F

>>76922331
also bad
still not OP's complaint
>>76922355
>using gay euro units
>talking like a black person
kwab

>>76922357
not a real unit
>>76922367
I was talking to you in the language of your people, burger

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>>76919337
personally im a counter-striker

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>>76919199
What does ROON do to improve anaerobic and sprinting performance?

>>76922494
zone 2

>had knee surgery for grade 4 cartilage damage and meniscus tear 6 weeks ago
>developed a knee infection afterwards which required another surgery
>can now bend my knee 40 degrees if I'm being very generous
I don't think I'll ever be able to run or do sports again bros. This dumbass infection has damaged my knee permanently and irreversibly, I just feel it. My life has always revolved around sports, and now I can't even walk anymore. What the hell is the point?

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drank too much last night. no running today. might be able to manage a walk
we go again tomorrow

>>76922940
Running already kills my dick, drinking too would make my dick a pussy

>>76922259
did you do your strengthening rehab?

>>76922259
Maybe try fixing your injury instead of crying about it and doing nothing.

>>76922992
That shouldn’t be normal, anon. Or at least I don’t think so. I get way harder erections when I’m running regularly and in great cardiovascular shape.

>>76922275
Idk, summer evening runs around 8pm are kind of my favorite.

>>76922924
Can you swim? You don't need to bend your knee for freestyle.

>>76919386
>Homosexual immediately begins imagining men having sex

>>76922940
i run better the day after drinking
breathing feels easier

Can i jog every single day without hurting myself?

>>76923293
I don't know, can you?

>>76919859
The start?

>wake up
>leg hurts
wtf

>>76922924
holy shit this sounds like a nightmare
how do you avoid this fate?

>>76923270
I don't know how that's possible. I made it to the gym anyway and did a bit of cardio on the machines so all is not lost.

>>76922924
There's always the paralympics. But surely the knee can be fixed. People have come back from worse. Keep the faith.

>started running maybe a month ago
>picked up brooks ghost 17 and nova blasts
>outter part of left ankle really started to hurt (left side)
>took a week off
>went out and ran yesterday
>pain was back instantly
>front on ankle hurt
>outter side of calf hurt
>all this only on the left
>pain was bad enough I had to walk for awhile
>ended up cutting the run short
>trying to figure out what's going on
>people mentioned shoes being too soft
>noticed when I'm wearing the novablasts it feels like my feet are rolling inwards

Could too soft shoes be the cause? I always kinda felt "wobbly" when running but I figured it was because I was new. I asked chatgpt and it said some tendonitis then soon as I mentioned the shoes thing it was like "yeah you need firmer shoes" but I'm taking that with a serious grain of salt. Any thoughts?

>>76923485
I also did the one-foot test and felt unstable in the shoes vs bare foot. I could feel my feet rolling in. I think I need to try a firmer pair of shoes.

>>76923149
I have clue how to get in and out of a pool when I can't even walk. Also, I'm not allowed to swim for another 3 weeks at least
>>76923471
Don't have insane bad luck I guess
>>76923478
I have made zero progress in the past week despite working 5 hours per day on mobility. Hard to be optimistic about anything at this point

>>76923502
A week is no time at all. It's not even a long time since the initial surgery. These things don't repair over night.

Had an awful troon today, brehs. Felt like shit the whole way.

>>76923040
Thats true up to a point. Its been well established running every single day lowers test. Ive experienced it firsthand. Up to about 30 miles a week, Im constantly horny. If I go over that, I basically stop thinking about sex

It’s too cold to run outside today so I went to the gym thinking there was no way I could do a long roon on the treadmill and ended up actually doing the full 17 miles staring at nothing

>>76923614
sus post

>>76923761
how long did that take you?

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Which one sounds better?
>Yeah, I run 40 km once per week
or
>Yeah, I run a marathon once per week (42 km)
I realllllyyyyyy dread running the last 2 km, that shit will probably be pure hell

>>76923929
a marathon sounds a million times better

>>76923929
both sound insane

>>76923485
It's not about firm/soft shoes, it's about neutral vs stability shoes. I'd argue that most people (maybe 70%) need a stability shoe for their daily trainer.

So try something like an ASICS Gel Kayano (my favourite), a Brooks Adrenaline GTS, or a New Balance 860. But really, the important thing is that you get properly fitted for shoes in person by someone who knows what they're doing. Every foot is different, so you can't just buy stuff online until you have experience in knowing what you need.

>>76923970
insane as in
>you should be locked up in the looney bin and on drugs 24/7
or insane as in
>YOOOOOOOOOO THATS CRAZY DUDE

>>76923978
little bit of both

>>76923574
Yeah but zero progress as in adding zero degrees in entire week? Something is deeply fucked with that knee. Maybe scar tissue from the infection

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quick n comfy long roon

>>76923852
Just under 2:04. I made it more interesting with speed and incline intervals so it was actually faster than I would have done it outside by probably 5-10 minutes

>>76923485

Pretty much what’s happened to me as a new runner. Went from old minimal trail running shoes to Novablast now back to my old shoes and my pain has gone down a lot. Briefly tried stability shoes but the made things worse. Biggest benefit for me has been intense yoga 5 days a week and daily body weight. Just been doing calf raises and air squats to failure for five sets, plus five sets of fifty of these knee to wall exercises. Gonna try to get more serious about strength training soon and get a gym membership because that’s been the single best thing for me running wise. I’m guessing you have uneven hips and week Achilles like me, so look up other stuff for that
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AzPx04t1zAU&feature=youtu.be

I have Tokyo marathon in 2 and half months and I feel the slowest I've ever been.
I was planning around 3:10-3:15 but realistically with my current situation I will probably be looking at 04:00.
Have not been able to run last 2 weeks because of shoulder dislocation. Last long run was like a month and half ago.

>>76924091
NTA but I tried stability shoes too once and all it did was give me pain along the outside of my leg up to my hip. Turns out they're pretty bad unless you really need the stability from them

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Went for a run, it was cold out and my leg was kind of sore so I took it easy. Heart rate was still high, but that's probably because of the cold and I had a Java Monster earlier this morning
Didn't see any animals, except a duck sitting on a ledge.

there's no biological reason to run 42k
what i mean is there's an optimal biological distance to run in one session, but it's not 42k

>>76924184
what if you need to get an important message to your superiors indicating you won the battle and your country is saved?

First marathon in 4 weeks. Why does my right trap hurt so much after the 15 mile mark?

Hurt even earlier today but it could have been because I got a massage yesterday.

>>76923929
so what does recovery look like for a weekly 40k runner, what's your schedule like

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>>76924226
not that urgent is it

if you won then they can wait a few days innit

To those who lift and run, what's your schedule look like? More specifically, how are you balancing leg days and running? I've often got plenty of free time where I could do one in the morning and one in the evening, but soreness and general fatigue are a whole other matter.

>>76923614
But you did the miles. These are the best runs you will ever have. They will give you more than all the pleasant/enjoyable runs you do. Endure these runs. Enjoy the others.

>>76923485
I'm just gonna wait and go get a gait analysis or w/e it's called. I looked and my local shop offers it for like $80 or something. I'll take both my pairs of shoes in, explain the issues and see what they say. I really want to run but I'm not gonna do it with a ton of pain and I'm not gonna buy another pair of shoes only for them to not work out or something. Even after a week of rest and ZERO pain the moment I go out to run BOOM it's right back so something needs to change.

>>76924535
I lift and run at the same time. I have a flat bed that I load up with weights. My wife drives and she follows me and my kids hand me weights pertaining to whatever group I'm working that day.

dogs aren't scary

>>76924535
I lift twice a week and when I'm actively training I also run 4x per week.
>Mon: OHP, weighted chinups, deadlifts
>Tues: easy run
>Wed: long run
>Thurs: rest
>Fri: bench press, rows, barbell squats
>Sat: intervals or a Parkrun
>Sun: easy run

If you have trouble balancing leg workouts with running, try putting them on the same day so that you aren't spending the whole week with DOMS. Personally I've been going pretty light on my lower body for a while (only 150kg deadlifts 1x5 and 125kg squats 3x5), so my legs are still really fresh for my runs.

I find that you can't really progress with both lifting and running at the same time, so pick one and focus on it for a while. At the moment I'm cutting for Christmas and I'm simultaneously nursing a knee injury from some dead shoes, so I'm not making any progress with either.

>>76924535
there's just no way to do both well, at least if you're past beginner on both.

I'll pick either 4 days of running a week and 2 lifting, or 4 lifting 2 running, depending on what I want to maintain and what I want to progress. On days I run I can do upper body. And sure as shit don't forget your deload week.

>>76924535
My schedule is erratic due to my job. I'll go with a standard Sun-Sat week, but I have to rearrange based on my work schedule:
>Sun
Recovery bike ride: 30min-2hrs
Or other easy cross training

>Mon
Lift: see*
Right afterwards: easy run 30-60min

>Tues
Hard run:
When not in training cycle, my up-the-hill, down-the-hill 6 miler
When in training cycle: switch each week with tempo run or track interval workout

>Wed
Recovery ride: 30-60min
Or other easy crosstraining

>Thurs
Rest day

>Fri
Lift: see*
Right afterward, easy run: 30-60min

Sat:
Long run: 12-20 miles varyimg if I'm in a training cycle or not.

* Lifts, all 3x8w/weight vest and dumbbells
Dips, singleg legs squats, dumbbell rows, single leg deadlift, dumbbell bicep curls, bulgarian split squat

Do whatever lifts you like though. Easy runs can help with recovery. If you have to split them up, I suggest lifting in the morning, run in afternoon.

>>76924660
phwoar

propa good diss wun hafta be said

ran on a running mat for the first time today, strangely dystopian way of exercising when all you're doing is staring at a wall or the numbers on the display
i definitely prefer running outdoors but i guess the mat is fine if the weather is really poor

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>>76924000
go geodudemode
upper body only baby
best of luck with the knee anon i hope it gets better

>>76924136
I ran a fast marathon with very low mileage because of injuries. I did 2 half marathons in training and apart from that my longest run was 10 miles. If you have a good base fitness and do a lot of cross training you will not be much slower than your goal pace. 10 weeks is plenty of time. I'm sure you could still run a 3:20

>>76924535
I do an easy run before my leg days.
Then the next day I don't run but do cross training instead. Bike + elliptical or whatever.

Also depends on what my priorities are at the time. If I have a race coming up then leg days will be easier. Not training for any race then I can trash the legs in the gym it doesn't matter if I'm tired the next day or two.

>>76925078
Yeah as soon as I'm off antibiotics and have an appetite again I'll hit upper body like there's no tomorrow
My legs have always been way more muscular than my upper body so this is a chance to get a more balanced physique

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2k easy 4k tempo 2k easy
pace a bit wonky but good enough

>>76919199
>finish my daily run faster than ever before
>feel proud of myself for my progress
>polar fitness apps says I'm exercising less because I spent less time rooning
>feel bad about myself
Going for another lap.

>>76919199

Pretty solid 5.5 mile run today after about a week off dealing with calf soreness. Kept my HR in the 120s at a sub 9 min/mile pace. Im happy with it. Planning on another easy run tomorrow, then a pain session on Wednesday. Going to go into the darkness and stay there as long as I can. Should be fun

>>76925442
I think something like this is also happening to me. I bet there's a 30 minute minimum or something for activities to count to whatever the algorithm behind fitness age is. Or maybe you need to exceed the 150 minutes per week by at least 100% to max out the stat or something. My fitness age went from 18 to 19 and then i exercised and it was back to 18. Today it is 18.5. I know it's bullshit but it annoys me a little bit. If you think about it 20 or 21 or maybe even 25 is probably a better age anyways in terms of max health.

Like, an 18 year old is still a child, pretty sure my shoulders got wider way into my 20s lmao.

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>first time racing at marathon distance
>knee starts to hurt at mile 13
>drop pace and eventually race walk for 5 miles
>knee pain goes away at mile 18
>end up finishing the marathon at fucking practice pace
FUCKKK

>>76925742
over status?

>>76919199

I think I need to join a running club or get some friends who are runners or something. Running is really the only hobby that I care about, think about, or want to talk about. I always feel out of place when Im with people who dont run. Especially when they want to drink and Im like no Im going to bed early because Im doing a long run at 5 am. They don't get it and never will. And I dont get them, and never will. Im starting to look down on them, which is probably not good. I should be hanging out with guys that are faster than me so I keep pushing myself.

>>76919199
I run with my dog.

>random girl told me to jog along with her >too much of a sperg
>after like 5 minutes I was already ahead of her

>>76925841

If that was me I'd remember that moment on my death bed. That was your future wife anon. At the very least, you missed out on the dream. Runner pussy

>>76925846
if i had to have sex I think I'd kill myself

>>76925815
My running mates like to drink and so do I. I got the best of both worlds.

>>76925075
what is a running mat

>>76925835
What kind of dog?

>>76925917

I think he means a treadmill based on how he's describing it

>>76925841
>>random girl told me to jog along with
HOW

>>76925979
she told.him to fuck off

jog on/jog along is british for fuck off

My mate was doing 100 50kg squats for time today. I said that's fucking stupid. Then I did it with him. Just over 6 minutes. Was cramping up after. Won't be a fun run tomorrow.

>>76926587
Why are runners seemingly incapable of following an actual strength program?
I even see it with "professional" runners on YouTube. They say "you need to get strong!" and then cut to B-roll of them doing 5kg kettlebell around-the-worlds.

>>76926656
I don't think that's true anymore. Maybe 20 years ago. Serious runners these days tend to have good strength programs.

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>I forgot my running shoes anon
>but we could do some other cardio if you want
>teehee

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Did this today. Quit a brewery a few months ago to get sober and it's going well. I've always loved trail running but now I'm all in. So much more time in the day now that I'm not wasted constantly.

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>>76926830
Here is a pic. It was perfect weather today.

>>76926833
looks like a good spot

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sub-40 i’m coming for you in 2026

urgh illness onsetting

will hafta not run tomoror

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>>76926921
Nice

>>76925841
The trick is when she says "jog with me" is to go ever so slightly slower than her so you can glance at her butt and her armpits if they're out

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Cold roon. Mostly snow packed paths.

>>76926830
Congrats on the sobriety!

>>76926730
>We're on the beach. Beach runs are meant for bare feet. You'll be a bit sore in the morning since it's your first time working your stabilizer muscles.

>>76926730
Sex is pretty terrible cardio, but I do have a secret fantasy of chasing a girl down persistence hunting style. Shame my wife is so unfit, there wouldn't be any challenge at all.

Feel like I look like an absolute retard when I run

>>76927897
we all do fren

we all do

>>76922924
had ACL surgery, had to scrape heap of shit out on the MCL side. also a massive bucket handle tear at the front where they removed most of the cartilage. took a long time but i can roon and do everything. my advice: do your fucking rehab

>>76923485
i got nova5's a couple of weeks ago. was using kayano 32. I do notice that the novas are not as stable as the kayano (which are stability shoes), but it just means i need to pay attention more to my form and how I am landing. It has only been two troon sessions; whereas, the kayano's have about 205km on them, so I reckon once the novas break in they'll be sweet.

>>76925519
>minimum
yeh coros is a like that.
>do 59.99999999999 minutes
>'yer nar shit exercise cunt try harder'
>do 60.000000000000000001 minutes
>'OH EM GEEEEE YOU'RE OVERTRAINING CALM YOUR FARM SENPAI'

>>76926921
based, you got this bro :)

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chill trail roon

nothing like a morning run am i right fellas

>>76928150
why would you run at any other time?

I did 12.5km in 1h with 175m elevation gain how is it

Didn't feel tired from a cardio perspective, not at all, but my legs felt heavy af and I felt slow

Half road half trail with grass mud and little rocks, was raining and around 8 degrees and a bit windy

>>76928158
I almost never run in the mornings. Lunch time or evening. Preferably lunch time.

>>76927922
It's all I do the entire day. I'm spending at least 5 hours per day on mobilisation exercises.
This rehab is gonna be the most important thing I'll have ever done in my life.

finkin not garn roon today

feel like last time i rooned ill it exacerbated it

so not garn risk it and see if get better

Almost sharted myself during a fartlek run today (more like fartleak), luckily I remembered where a portapoty is in the park I frequent.
From now on, I am running with a pack of tissues.

no roon today

feels weird

not even really sick at all but like i feel it

hope feel better tomorow.and can roon normally

again i dont have a general problem rooning ill. its fine if not too hard. butafts last time just felt cautious. tbf last time it was worse pre-roon

defo.lookin' to roon tomorrow

hopefully all just false alarm and isnt beginning of a propa viral poolapse

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is running a 20 minute 5k every day retarded?

>>76929926
Depends how hard it is for you. It looks like you were pushing pretty hard and that would probably be a higher chance for injury and burn out. Also depends on your goals.

>>76929959
>>76929926
you mad

lol

20 minute 5k everyday? no way

>>76929959
was hard but I'm a bit sick.. goal is an 80 minute HM (current PR is 86)

>>76929926
>20 minute 5k everyday? no way
if your pb is 16-17 ish minutes and you're already at full send on mid distance running idk why not... try...at that level there's a lotta stuff that only kinda works to a point then you gotta look for what the best are doing

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>Norwegian singles
>Chinese running shoes

>>76929926
If the goal is to improve then yes it's retarded. For less effort you could make much better gains.

I finally did it. After a couple of months of being stuck in blue hell, my VO2 max is now the in the superior range. The purple looks good on me. And superior has a nice ring to it

>>76925921
American Eskimo, little guy loves to run.

>>76930880
yeah yeah but how much faster are you?

>>76930924

this year? Ive brought my 5k time from 23:45 in February to 20:30. And my half time from 1:50 to 1:35. Ive run for a few years but this is the first year Ive really put in any focus to it. I upped my mileage by about double and increased the amount of days I run, and Ive started doing actual structured work outs instead of just running and fucking around. Also switching from fitbit to a proper Garmin has been really nice too

>>76930977
Good work. This is way more impressive than a silly number on your watch

>>76930214
no

thats just retarded

stop

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What is your best 5k time and what is your BMI?

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>>76925742
At least you are not me: I ended up wth severe periostitis in both shins after my half-marathon debut. I have been running 5k at recovery pace twice per week for one month. I can actually feel my muscles eating themselves due to lack of training, but pushing the pace or distance makes my shins hurt.

>baking soda neutralizes lactic acid
Why did no one tell me this. It seems like a huge deal.

Ran 2 hours for the first time today. I felt fine at the time but a few hours later now I'm so fucking tired god.

>>76931718
There's a reason long runs are on the weekend.

>That one friend who makes running their entire personality and acts like they're a competitive racer
>2:45:00 marathon

>>76931741
I do my long runs on Wednesday mornings, because I work from home. I'm way less productive, but I don't care.

>>76931756
literally nothing wrong with this

>>76931741
I have more crap to do on Saturdays and Sundays than Wednesdays and Thursdays tbf.
Saturdays I do intervals.

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I want to get more into running and lean out, for a long time I've just ran occasionally (and gotten shin splints and other injuries from over doing it) while my primary focus and time spent was lifting. I wanna make cardio/running primary (for a new job) but do want to keep lifting to try and maintain some muscle mass. Maybe do calisthenics. Any of you guys lift and run? What's your routine like?

>>76931756
Damn, wish I could get 2:45. Maybe I should make running more of my personality.

>>76931705

yeah but the downside is it makes you shit yourself like crazy unless you pay Mautren $15 a serving

>>76931756

obviously its not an elite or sub-elite time but its still in the 5% of runners

>>76931759
based. Ive been less productive at work too since I started running, but like you I don't care. Running is a lot more interesting than work and at this point my maintain motivation to stay employed is to afford running stuff.

>>76931788
i'm sorry anon, you can only lift OR run

>>76931343
>17:35
>24

>>76931788
Run 6 days a week. Yoga or pilates every other day. Some light weight stuff occasionally.
>I want to lean out
Clean up your diet. Less fat and carbs more vegetables.

>>76931718
When my long runs were under 2 hours I could go out and do a 10 mile speed workout the next day without a problem. As soon as I hit 2 hours my runs the next day went from a 7 minute mile pace or below to 8:30 to 9 minute miles
It destroys you

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I went back to my old running club that I ran for when I was in school. Jesus christ we didn't train like this back in my day. An easy run but with a 200m sprint every lap. Apparently some top German coach is recommending this. It's like the new threshold training. I'm way too old for this. Just give me a simple 6x1k. Somehow I survived without getting injured.

>>76932186
>25s 200
nice

Who /sprinting/ here?

>>76932110
6 days a week would be a lot for me, I got supple flat feet and my legs would break down from that kind of volume.

how do you even cope with sucking when you have put in countless of hours into practicing?

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Mostly clear paths for the roon. Almost ate shit once.
Also, the fuck is this Captcha

>>76932570
why are you putting countless hours into something you don't enjoy doing? do you think you're going to join the olympic team?

>>76932574
i want to be good

>>76932586
define "good"

>>76932570
What >>76932574 said. I flatout enjoy running and don't really care to improve. If I don't feel like doing a long run, I don't do it. If I feel like going all out in a mile, I do it.

>>76932586
Good for what reason? Same reason why lifters want big numbers and are willing to ego lift and possibly injure themselves for them?

I hate running, and that is why I must run.

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>tfw taste copper and smell ammonia

>>76932316
Have you considered an elliptical or swimming?

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I don't have anyone to share with, so might as well post it here. Six months after major knee surgery, and about three months since I started running/jogging, I'm finally down to a sub 30 min 5k.

>>76933260
Good work mole

>>76933260
very good m8

sup dogs r u runnin good?? i wanna say hi
i still think runing is so dumb but i undestand you all, u r my water babies my sacred flock

I live on 100 acres should I just run around my property

Might not be the right thread, but...
I'm looking for ways to train to get faster at rucking and ruck-running. Any tips? My goal is to be able to go an average of 11:30/mile with 50-60lbs for at least 15 miles.

>>76933388
100 acres?? u should have a stone lifting area and bring stones from all over the country to your stone area

>>76933389
>tips
pack the heavier stuff high and closer to your body

>>76933389
>ruck
Go easy on most days. One day a week, walk faster, or add more weight. One day a week, walk longer.

>ruck-running
Good bye knees!

>>76932570
The countless hours make you fitter. Even if the results are not showing right now the fitness is being built.

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>>76933260
nice job!!!

sup dogs
u jniggas be runnin today shit, yet? its' 14:59 CET, did u go on ur run yet if you're in this area, of if ur in china its prorably morning, but also in the americas its probably morning, so u might be on your morning run.
in australia its proably like sunday already idk

This morning I was smashed in the face with regret. I realized despite being near 40 Im still faster than a lot of guys in the 20s. Running is natural to me and fun. It brought me back to middle school when I was recruited by the track coach to join the team without tryouts because I was lapping the other kids in gym. But being a dumbass kid who didnt like the structure of practice I quit. I realized I'll never know how good I could have been or what my potential was if I had just stayed with it through middle school, high school, and into my 20s. And now its too late for all that. Im good but Im past my prime and there's no getting it back. Anyway I guess if anyone asks what Im running from now I know. Its my past.

>>76933260
bump that cadence up, it's faster and less impact on your knees

>>76933773
sound like a sad sack

>>76933389
weight vest on the stair master

>>76933773
If your VO2max right now isn't >65 you always would've been a failure. Competitive rooning is a solved sport.

>take in gels during marathon
>shit myself
>take in gatorade during marathon
>shit myself
>take in energy waffles during marathon
>shit myself
>drink coffee in the morning to get an extra shit in before marathon
>still shit myself
So I guess I just have to always plan in a loss of 5 minutes every single marathon I do? I've tried for a year now and I can't train my gut.

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First 5k in my life, started running about 6 months ago. What are the chances I can get to sub 30 in mid feb?

Also, how do you handle pushing your pace? At that start of each I would push to like an RPE 8 and let it naturally fall off. Is that retarded?

>>76933388
you should pour me a skate park

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>>76933872
IME the progress from hitting 5k to being able to do 10k is almost immediate. I went from 7:00/km to ~5:30/km for my easy pace pretty quickly soon after being able to hit 5k, maybe two months. Beginner gains are real and huge, good job and don't get injured

This year I went from being a completely sedentary 350+lb fatass for my entire adult life, really ever since middle school I've been a fatass, to slowly and painfully lumbering my flabby ass around the block, to walking 10,000 steps every day, then incorperating running short little 1 minute bursts with walking breaks in between, to running 1 complete mile every morning without breaks this year. I guess my goal for this year is to improve my endurance enough and run a 5k without stopping by this time next year, I did a 5k already but it was full of breaks to stop and catch my breath, my goal is to be able to do it without stopping.

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>finally recovering from injury
>start running again
>feeling happier
>immediately get sick

>>76933918
Should I push longer distances if my goal is a sub 30 5k? I've got a goal of a sub 30 5k, 405 squat, 315 bench, and 600 DL on my birthday in 2 months - bit of a stretch, but I'm confident on hitting the lifts without the running.

>>76933918
corr

sex

but also vapid

>>76933989
No idea. I run because it makes me feel good. 12km a day. If I were you I'd stop worrying so much, but thank fuck I ain't you, I'm me.
5k isn't much of a run if you're a runner really, anything less than 45 minutes or so is kind of just a waste of time. Go get a pdf of Lore of Running off Annas Archive and do some reading.

Will adding jogging into my routine catabolize all my muscle in a caloric deficit?

>>76934074
not if you're still lifting and eating enough protein.

>>76934100
You swear? Does this still work if I am already relatively lean? I am like 16%bf. I lift daily and get over 1.2g of protein/pound bw. Thinking of adding in a 5k jog a day or every other day to try to push through to 12% without having to starve more than I am already.

>>76934136
to my knowledge! with the caveat that i am not all that much of a lifter, i mostly do dumbbell work. i do strength training every other day on my cardio off days, and i've been able to maintain my muscle while in deficit (and gain muscle while not) while keeping that routine.
that said, cardio is very good for losing bodyfat and will improve your overall fitness. i highly recommend it if you're trying to lean up without eating starvation level.

>>76934136
i know jay cutler and a bunch of other bodybuilders used to do long, intense stairmaster cardio sessions, so it should be the same and you should be fine.

Take a bunch of body measurements and monitor yourself carefully if you want. Note also that if you're under-carbed, your muscles will "shrink," but aren't really eaten. Eat some carbs and you'll fill right back up.

>>76934156
>>76934154
I will try for two weeks and see if I lose all my muscle may God strike you two retards down for setting me on the wrong path.

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>>76934264
if you're just trying to accelerate a cut I think doing a mile every other day is perfectly adequate. That way you won't be tempted to eat more for recovery, either, which defeats the purpose. You can always increase intensity after a couple weeks.

>>76933857
Take an enema a few hours prior to the start, shit it all out, use loperamide and simethicone, then try to take another shit about 30 mins prior to start.

>>76933389
Watched a video exactly on this about a year ago. The verdict on the research? Lots of weight lifting. Sure, you still got to do your rucks, but weight lifting showed more improvement overall. The research also showed to at least incorporate two runs a week without weight.

Also:
>ruck-running
Hey, is the guy who injured himself running with a weight vest I think two weeks ago still here? If you are, tell this guy how quickly you got injured with just 20lbs evenly distributed via a weight vest unlike a rucksack.

>>76934326
>>76933461
Ruck running isn't that bad if you ease into it. I've been doing it for about 5 years now and my knees are fine. Having no lifting routine and jumping straight into sprinting with 60lbs is what injures people, not a tepid 10 minute mile pace every now and then.

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fartlek time

>>76933389
>ruck running
even worse than joining the army, you’re exploding your knees for free and you don’t even get a complementary meal at applebees once a year

How does testosterone supplementation affect recovery time when it comes to running?
I feel I take way to long to recover, even after doing a good block of slow running/uphill walking etc.

I’m on the lower end of testosterone but I haven’t gotten into TRT yet but starting to consider it.

>>76934455
I am in the army, if it wasn't obvious.

>>76934461
I don't take stuff but have naturally high t. My recovery time is nothing, like a fraction of what the watch tells me. t. 36

how do you avoid knee injuries

>>76934572
dont be fat dont run too much
if ur getting injured running ur a retard

>>76934572
Don't be fat, dynamic stretching after every workout, eat a vegan diet, walk at least as much as you run, don't be obsessed with making every run faster than the last, run 80% or more of your kilometres at a slow pace, wear good shoes.
Some combination of all those things, plus have Nordic genes. No knee injuries ever for me. I haven't had a true rest day in years

>>76934455
>>76934475
Every single person I know that has been in the military has shit knees by the time they get discharged because of this. It's like the military is purposely being idiots when they know about the studies which show how to get as good or better results with a lot lesser injuries.

>>76934576
I’m not fat. What if you can’t control how much you run? I’m joining the army so I won’t really have a choice

>>76934610
Then you better get fit enough that the running the military will order you to do won't be too much.

>>76934610
if you are joining the military in a first world country (excluding french foreign legion) then your knees will be fine as long as you have got your body used to running regularly before you go to basic training.

>>76934572
the real answer is strengthen and rehabilitate the leg muscles you're overlooking. Ab, glute, hip, quad, hamstring, calf, tib, ankle. Strengthen, stretch, and incorporate into your form over time.

>>76934610
>I’m joining the army
dont do that bro, gross

>>76934760
Venezuela war coming up, generational European conflict on the horizon, destabilization from Liberia straight across to Madagascar and down to South Africa, North Africa is on cooldown for now, and China is about to take Taiwan. Plus two Buddhist nations are currently bombing each other in SEA.

Yeah bro join the army kek

>>76934610
good goy

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fuckn hate summer ay every jog feels like a slog

>>76934766
kek
even without that its insane. that shit is low leverage, b.

i mean, potentially u can get a lot of benefits later on, but i think u can get those benefits in an easier way without going into the army. if you're at that level of fucking grunt, then do something where you can either make serious cash or fucken...become a grunt in an easier way for the governmetn for mo betta and easier benefits.
i never understood the army thing. that is insane. unelss you're going in rotc and hop in as an officer, that's different

>>76934766
come on bro don't you want to be ordered to your death by a brown woman painting her nails in an air base 50 miles away?

Hey roon. I owe you guys.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FGWM5W1C
put it in your cart.
promo code: "LKTXSZ2T"

Enjoy your 20 dollar massage gun. And thanks for your patience with me this year, /roon/.

>>76934933
sounds kinda hot

can see the appeal of the army

but feel like

alot of people sont get fuck all from it and end up elaving wiv nuffink to chamge into

like its rarely a kind of proper long term solutiom

>>76933857
order some of those diapers from the Israeli military.

>>76935187
if i joined it would to become a mechanic or electrician or some kind of trade, or the engineering corps something like that. learn some skills for when you get out.

>>76935276
The israeli pooper troopers. That feeling when you just can't contain yourself from starving some little girls to death.

>>76926921
thats so fucking fast, what the fuck

>>76932308
Yep. Sleds, bounding, sprinting so far this week. Weights tomorrow, plyos at the weekend and sprinting again early next week. Debating whether to do indoor competitions this winter. Or might just go to watch my kids compete.

I've always been a fat fuck. I hate running and always have pain in my knees, shins, ankles, lowerback and toes when running. I did the flat foot test by wetting my feet and i dont have them.I recently got some asic super cushions and it seems to help

I feel like I keep a pretty healthy mindset to it but my running never improves and I wind up quitting. I'll run as much and as fast as I like one day, rest, try to run to the same level, rest, same level, and then take the weekend off. But my running g never improves, ever, it starts getting worse.

I've tried running everyday, a little slower. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong

>>76935487
maybe you've an extremely low tolerance for pain. exercise hurts m8.

>>76935487
Take smaller steps. Listen to 180 bpm music. Get your cadence high and keep your speed low - take small steps.

You need to build your durability. Start walking 20k steps a day for a few months before your next running bout, then RUN SLOW. With a high cadence.

>>76935540
Do you run on top of the 20k steps? Do you run everyday?

>>76935545
Currently I'm running six days a week. I've switched over to most of my steps being running now and lost the focus on the steps. But look up Paavo Nurmi the 'flying finn". Undefeated in over 100 races from 800m distance and up. Built his base walking.

>>76935587
The training really developed with the progression of Paavo Nurmi and the Finn’s. Nurmi and the Finn’s continued with the long walks (up to 4hrs) idea. You may be wondering why they insisted on using walking so much. The reason is simple: it built a base. That should sound like a familiar line of reasoning for most coaches, and is no doubt the forerunner to the more modern concept of a base that Lydiard envisioned. In fact, the Finn’s and Swede’s insisted on long walks during a 6+ week winter period to prepare one for running (source: Lore of Running)

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time to go runn-ACK

>>76935540
>cadence
>180
be careful anon, I suggested this the other day and was called 'braindead' and told anything above 170 is for athletes and I am not an athlete.

>>76935675
im genuinely jealous

would love to do a session in 42 degrees

only done 39 degrees once

>>76935691
I a 100kg muscle freak and can't jog at 180bpm without my HR going over 165, which is not comfy

>>76935691
180 is reserved for athletes. 170 or 190 is fine for amateurs but not 180.

>>76932171
Yeah I usually did like, 1h40? 1h45? like I'm not going to say I wasn't tired in the afternoon after that or going to bed a bit earlier, but I didn't expect just another 15~20 minutes would be felt so much, and even the next day a bit still, I think.

>>76933918
How old were you at that time?

>>76935487
Running gains come over months of consistent training. Not week to week. Just keep at, lose some weight, and do some cross training. One day you will go for a run and realize oh shit I'm way fitter than I used to be.

>>76934766
Yes. Join the army. It's all going to happen in two weeks, bro!

>>76935187
There's a lot of appeal! You get to spend years of your life being a good zogbot! You get to be patriotic and serve Uncle Sam and Big Brother. In exchange of it, you will be treated great. You get a high chance of being injured during basic training due to the amount of overtraining they'll do to you just to get you adjusted to the pressures of military life. When you get out, you get crappy medical coverage called Tricare. If you are lucky to live around a VA center, you can go there to reduce your costs. However, you have great treatment in the form of doctors, nurses, and psychologists who medically gas light you and blame everything on PTSD--even your thyroid and cholesterol problems. Tripped while out on the side walk and broke your elbow running because you finally decided to get back into shape after a long break from burnout due to being forced to do PT, and it's one of the best medicine per studies? It's all in your head. But don't worry: you get more mood stabilizers to help with that. If you so happen to be hospitalized for anything, hopefully the nurse won't give you someone else's medications like their insulin.

>>76935487
Typical beginners mistakes. Do a structured training problem like C25k. Don't run as fast as you can nor every day. Build up takes time. You don't get up one day, decide you want to run a marathon in two weeks. Do some easy crosstraining like cycling and rowing. By your own admission, you are fat. Try swimming. It's non impact, and you do get some great cardio from it. Learn to freestyle. After you learned and done it for awhile, start doing drills like catch-up, single arm freestyle, closed fist, and side drills. You can do these in intervals and be just fine.

>>76935691
Do your natural form and cadence, and work up. This crap is not hard to comprehend.

do you eat breakfast before or after running?

>>76936454
whenever you feel like it afterwards

>>76936454
None because I'm a run at lunch and evening Chad.

>>76936407
The seething is palpable.

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did a hard 2k in the middle to see how it feels. yeah it didn't feel good
maybe just need a few fast sessions to wake the legs up. haven't done any intervals for a few weeks

>>76936957
phwoar good sessington diss wun hairfta be emuliarated

Fuck, last run I felt a sudden pain/soreness in my left hip, and only there.
I hope it's only muscle/tendons and nothing else.
That said one of my legs is longer than the other (forgot which one).

>>76935675
Watch out for the kangaroos, aussie.

>>76935675
>gobal warming is fa-
AAAAAAAAAAAACKKKKKK

so... new thread?

Hey guys I just started walking 10k steps a day about 3 months ago. Any advice on beginning to run? I bought some Topo Auras and they fit well and are very comfortable. Should I just try the couch to 5k program? Any advice for a 35 male beginner? I'm 175 6' if that helps. Trying to get to 10% body fat

>>76937503
>>76937548

fresh bake
>>76937548