are pecs really that important for aesthetic? can you provide examples of bodies looking good without having big pecs?
Developing the upper chest is the hardest fucking thing bro. I saw larry wheels talk about how he was incline benching 600 pounds and still visibly had no upper chest. It feels like I am cooked. I do these gay cable flies trying to target the upper chest and I feel like they dont do shit
Everyone trains chest in one way or another, its hard to find people who don't do pushups or bench or dips and have an otherwise good body
>>77026855Post body
>>77026849Just incline bench more. It's not that hard. >inb4 b-but my program has bench and ohp as the primary lifts where do I stick inclineto which I would respond LOL LMAO even
>>77026857non weighted cali, gymnastic and combat sports have very little focus on the chest and yet produce good looking bodies
>>77026873All of those have strong chest involvement anyways, they do plenty of other full body exercise that develop their chest
>>77026839It's for faggots that want to have big titties for their boyfriends and other gay faggots online. Shoulders > Traps and Neck > Arms and Forearms > Back when it comes to looking like you can do some damage.
>>77026863I just explained how fags can progress their incline bench to massive numbers and still not have a good upper chest
>>77026839big pecs and big glutes are extremely important
>>77026839>can you provide examples of bodies looking good without having big pecs?
>>77026839>can you provide examples of bodies looking good without having big pecs
>>77026986>big pecs and big glutes are extremely importantthey aren't round bot, nor tit-like at all from this: >>77026855cause they are proportionally built, and uninjured, not stiff and not shortened - it's a triangle, striated triangle with teeth in the middle, it even shows in rear double biceps pose bot :D and it looks sick poking between traps and delts :D
>>77026855Your exercise descriptions read like a fever dream. Either animate it properly or shoot a vid, this is pointless
>>77026839Right down the 'log>>77027005
>>77026986>>77026994>>77027027>>77027029bad>>77027052good (fictional though)
>>77026839you don't need giant pecs, but you do want to have some amount. v taper is more impt
seirously fuckers tell me how to build my upper chest besides incline bench. every other exercise is pure garbage
>>77027311incline bench more often google pictures of "arnold bench pressing", or "jay cutler bench pressing" you'll notice most of the pictures are on an incline bench even though that's not even what you searched, take the hint
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How do I start growing my chest when I have ~0? I'm doing incline presses three times a week but I mostly feel it in my arms and delts, yes I'm putting my nipples to the ceiling
>>77027311Wheb you can bench 3pl your pecs will be good enough
bwahha :D there u go bot, removing posts that u can't handle little bitch bot gpt it was going sth like this: pecs are here bot: >>77023703>as if your arm was on a sling, unilaterally from the opposite side u're working on, very close to this>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lMJUXEvcMkQ>it's horrible btw - mostly supraspinatus and it will impinge like any other lateral raise, but this positioning for biceps:>supinated, use powerband hooked on forearm near wrist, and with bent elbow what u wanna do is push elbow towards anchor point, just undulate in this position - maximum shoulder protraction>>as if your arm was on a sling>and u will grow long head of biceps>3 sets of undulating isometric 40 sec hold twice a week , that's 10 minutes a week tops - and mind u this is aggressive volume and load, it can be less (less often) than that and it will still work cause it's ACTUALLY doing bicpes long head------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------>but u said it's biceps, specyfically long head humanjust face the anchor point instead for pecs, it does also rear delt - is that a broblem?
>>77026839My chest responds very well to training but I don't like the look that much, I feel like I'm getting titties.And no I'm nowhere near being fat>>77026849Upper chest is a meme bro, you can't target it and it's entirely geneticIf you're supposed to have some, it will grow doing push ups.If you're not, nothing you'll try will change that.
>>77026839I’m in AFROTC right now and the dude in your op pic looks exactly like my wing commander
>>77026839Look for any bronze era bodybuilder/lifterGeorge Hackenschmidt, Ernest Cadinehttps://physicalculturestudy.com/2024/06/21/why-did-bronze-era-lifters-have-flat-chest-a-serious-answer-to-a-stupid-question/
>>77028576You'll notice picrel looks ten times more alpha than the faggot you posted, it's because he is(drop your cable machines and do some manly compound lifts)
>>77028576hackenschmidt quite literally invented the bench press
>>77028633how does it change the fact he has no chest? Most importantly, who do I bother posting on this board?You're all fucking retards
>>77028521>My chest responds very well to training but I don't like the look that much, I feel like I'm getting titties.i have already responded to that botbut u erased it overnight>>77028513>>77023703 >as if your arm was on a sling, unilaterally from the opposite side u're working on, very close to this>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lMJUXEvcMkQ>it's horrible btw - mostly supraspinatus and it will impinge like any other lateral raise, but this positioning for biceps:>supinated, use powerband hooked on forearm near wrist, and with bent elbow what u wanna do is push elbow towards anchor point, just undulate in this position - maximum shoulder protraction>>as if your arm was on a sling>and u will grow long head of biceps>3 sets of undulating isometric 40 sec hold twice a week , that's 10 minutes a week tops - and mind u this is aggressive volume and load, it can be less (less often) than that and it will still work cause it's ACTUALLY doing bicpes long head------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------>but u said it's biceps, specyfically long head humanjust face the anchor point instead for pecs, it does also rear delt - is that a broblem?
>>77028723This thing has zero muscles btw
>>77026839zyzz kinda, his upper pecs are really flat and I think it looks way better than the balloon ones.
Ask a thousand women their favorite body part and big pecs will be among bottom 3.Better to have slightly underdeveloped chest than underdeveloped anything else, the Arnold shelf is actually what's disproportional. And a "flat" chest is what's proportional.
>>77028949>>77028961>>77026960/threadAlso unintuitively dips work upper chest more than anything, especially if you lean forward, curl up in a ball with your knees in your chest and rounded back torso almost parallel to floor.Killer chest exercise.ChadDip
>>77028968based
>>77027311https://youtu.be/DoaSpIlvH5U
>>77026839The big pics ideal exists because Joe Weider was a jewfaggpt obsessed with titty fucking. Before his kike degeneracy poisoned the culture, minimal chest development was ideal.TLDR, big pecs are for faggots.
>>77026839Entirely dependent on your genetics with pecs, some dudes just have terrible chest insertions, and no amount of training or mass will make them look better, same goes for dudes with the overly puffy pecs that look more like tits.
>>77027311Just try doing 10 sets of 10 reps, it'll grow, your pecs will grow.
>>77028733>This thing has zero muscles btwlooks kinda similar right bot? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ah6b9Ll-llg>>77027311>seirously fuckers tell me how to build my upper chest besides incline bench. every other exercise is pure garbagehere u go>>77028723>>>77028513>>>77023703 >>as if your arm was on a sling, unilaterally from the opposite side u're working on, very close to this>>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lMJUXEvcMkQ>>it's horrible btw - mostly supraspinatus and it will impinge like any other lateral raise, but this positioning for biceps:>>supinated, use powerband hooked on forearm near wrist, and with bent elbow what u wanna do is push elbow towards anchor point, just undulate in this position - maximum shoulder protraction>>>as if your arm was on a sling>>and u will grow long head of biceps>>3 sets of undulating isometric 40 sec hold twice a week , that's 10 minutes a week tops - and mind u this is aggressive volume and load, it can be less (less often) than that and it will still work cause it's ACTUALLY doing bicpes long head------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------>>but u said it's biceps, specyfically long head humanjust face the anchor point instead for pecs, it does also rear delt - is that a broblem?=======================================================>yes it does look similar only that u pull instead of raising - zero strain on shoulder - shoulder protraction is KEY to biceps, triceps pecs and delts and it's best to work em with extended thoracic and tucked chin for added postural benefit :D
>>77027311incline dumbbell fly
10x10 neutral grip dumbell press
