got the flu which sucks
however I also lost 2kg in the last two days thanks to it so that's nice

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>>77106114
>woke up 6 in the morning feeling like shit and having insane cravings
>ended up pic rel
what the fuck have i done
this is the first time ive had cereal in months and i instantly remember why i avoided it, i can already feel stomach pains, my entire days calorie ruined, why did i do this
god help me

>>77106119

The time I got sick, it was coming out of both ends. But my reflection depicted someone who was fucking cut so it all evened out

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0,4 kg down today

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been lifting and walking for 6 weeks now, and my weight hasn't even moved (I feel more healthy though)
I'm pretty sure I'm eating at a deficit since I'm on ozempic for diabetes and I can't even stuff myself if I wanted to
what's the best free app to track calories? I don't need anything fancy, just something that isn't annoying to use and has most basic functionality

>>77106119
Last flu I had was great... I wish I could be that lean 24/7

>>77106139
I can't believe cereal companies still get to tell that 'cholesterol lowering' lie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA86yZ3FYNg

>explosive watery shits all day so far
I guess scale will go down

>>77106179
When you start lifting your weight can stall because your body holds on to water, especially if you’re taking creatine, but not for six weeks, something’s going wrong there. You might be eating at maintenance even on ozempic
I use myfitnesspal but they’re all pretty similar

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>I need tips on quelling hunger during fasts
1) Drink lots of water, this is not optional
2) Take electrolytes and kalium/potassium daily
3) Make sure to walk and/or exercise, fasting is no excuse for being sedentary lazy fuck.

Also friendly reminder fasts which last longer than 72h aren't cost-effective solution for weight loss for number of reasons: longer you fast, the longer it takes for your stomach to adapt back to normal diet and speaking from experience as someone who did 30-day fast, spending several days eating bone/chicken broth is not fun at all. Secondly, your body WILL also cannibalize your muscle tissue on longer fasts. This can be acceptable trade-off in some cases (like if your goal is to trigger longer period of autophagy to get rid of scar tissue etc.), but for weight loss its not really worth it. You are unironically better of doing sets of rolling fasts (48-72h) and eating on refeed day in between. Last but not the least, FASTING IS NO EXCUSE TO SKIP EXERCISE. Lifting while fasted certainly won't bring you optimal gains, but it WILL 1) prevent body from cannibalizing muscle tissue unless you go overboard with the duration and exceed 72h duration 2) build muscle contrary to what coping fatties tell you. If you just fast and don't lift, not only will you feel more awful while fasting, you will end up as skinnyfat with jeet physique even if you do succeed at dropping the weight.

tl;dr: fasting should be used as supplement in weight-loss, not as excuse to avoid exercising

Seek power not happiness.

>>77106201
giwtwm

>>77106241
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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PSMF-anon here, I said I was gonna lock in this week but I didn't. I'm sorry everyone... but this week I don't have too many social events to distract me and I'm gonna LOCK IN.

Also the fast food grill place FUCKED ME. I ordered a regular chicken thigh but someone else got it instead of the chicken thigh stuffed with cheese and ham they ordered, so I had that instead...

>>77106139
Don't crash out over this anon and move on, eat the rest of the day as you usually would and hit your protein. Tomorrow is a new day. You will have still lost weight today, just not as much.

>>77106254
losing 0.7% bf on weekly basis is hardly "getting fucked" anon

>>77106265
Ehh it's just an estimate at the end of the day, and that was just 1 thing where I overindulged.
I'm not unhappy but I know I can do at least 1.2kg or something if I wasn't loosey-goosey those few times.

>>77106214
> fasting tranny who got fat and is still trying to lose weight
when will you edniggas learn

>>77106196
> lie
sit your chud ass down dumbfuck. fiber lowers cholesterol.

I'm looking at the TDEE calculated in the OP. I can pick my activity level up top, which increases the TDEE, but then I can also pick how many calories I burn from exercise at the bottom. Isn't that double dipping? I might be retarded but it feels wrong.

>>77106254
Do you also exercise? I always get stuck on platueaus, then lose 3 kgs and stuck again

>>77106282
Disregard this, I saw now in the help popup box that it's in addition to the activity level.

>>77106272
Funny thing is that assuming you aren't cheating with the measuring tape used for Navy Method your waist circumference is far better measure for fat loss compared to your weight since weight has lot of daily variance

>new lowest weight 83kg at 6ft
>24.8 bmi
officially no longer fat what now bros

>>77106319
KEEP GOING GET RIPPED

>>77106319
post progress for us

>>77106343
sure just lemme get a pump and a new picture when i go work out in a few hours :^)

>>77106283
I train full-body 2x a week just to prevent muscle loss. I do like 13 exercises 1 set each to absolute failure.

>>77106295
My BF is probably 1-1.5% higher due to holding less water at the moment.

>>77106351
That's fine, the better the transformation the more motivating lol

>>77106295
Navy calculator says I'm 28.5% which makes sense, as I'm not holding a lot of water rn making me underestimate.
I'm tracking circumferences and it's pretty interesting.
First 7 weeks I steadily lost fat in all parts of my body.
Now It's mostly waist, chest, hips losing a few cm each week.
Slow loss in arms and thighs (0.5cm per week)
No loss in neck or calves for 5 weeks now.

>>77106249
This is false. There are bad people and power lets them express their badness.
Weakness is what corrupts. Turns you bitter and envious.

fatty contest
fatretard
176.5

>>77106171
nice

>>77106179
use Waistline. it's FOSS.
if you've never lifted before, it's perfectly normal for your weight to not move because newbie muscle gains while simultaneously losing fat.
track your waist and thigh circumferences.

>>77106319
>what now
recomp forever

>>77106494
What does FOSS mean?

>>77106515
free open source software.
free as in freedom.
don't you guys browse /g/?

>>77106553
I googled and that's what came up but I was too retarded to understand the meaning.
And no I don't.

>>77106254
>I ordered a regular chicken thigh but someone else got it instead of the chicken thigh stuffed with cheese and ham they ordered, so I had that instead...
lol fatties will literally create a split personality to blame there unhealthy orders on.

>>77106433
You totally misinterpreted the point of the quote

>>77106608
Do you have a split personality that writes their instead of there? Bazinga

>>77106599
what you really need to know is that FOSS stuff are ad free and don't sell your data.
wtf do you browse?
freedom as in freedom of the user to modify the software because the source code is available.
open source means the code of the software is available for everyone to look at.
the opposite is proprietary software; you don't know what code is being executed because it is hidden. it can do whatever and you can't really know wtf is it doing.

>>77106654
I didn't misinterpret anything. The quote is wrong.

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>>77106258
cheers anon

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Brazas I can't tell if I am retarded or have dysmorphia. But I feel as though my legs look disproportionately much fatter than my upper body. How much more weight do you lads think I would have to lose for my legs to look leaner or is it just wide hip bones making me look weird and there isn't much hope?

>>77106701
Yeah, that's what somebody who misinterpreted the quote would say.

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>>77106752
You're about to misinterpret my fucking fist if you keep this up.

>>77106762
I'm sorry you're so upset.

Fatty Contest
TehPenguinOfDoom
176.7

The number went down again! Had some cheat days with Valentine's and gfs birthday dinners. Next week I'm doing a maintenance week.

>>77106739
100%, you're insane. You look lean all over.

>>77106764
Give him a break, he's hungry.

>>77106739
are you flexing your legs?
do you really care about having lean legs? you look great.
you don't have wide hips. this part is body dysmorphia.
you can go into recomp mode instead of cut imo and eventually have lean legs.

>>77106739
Literally my dream body

>>77106782
>>77106771
Thanks I appreciate the compliments.
>>77106780
I was flexing my quads for the front but relaxed for the rest of the video. I dunno maybe it's just loose skin on my thighs and calves when I touch them they feel very fat and when I sit down they squish out in all directions like they are super melty. I kind of would like them to be lean enough to see some definition I don't know if I am just too used to seeing enhanced physique on the internet so my expectations are unrealistic.

Bros I failed my OHP top set that I was able to complete 3 weeks ago. Maybe it was just an off day but I'm asking myself.... Is it worth it???

>>77106797
idk about realism but they definitely can be leaner and i've seen people irl with leaner legs but they weren't as muscular as yours.
if you want to make them leaner and if it is worth the effort is up to you.
if you are an ex-fatty, i can see slimming down further to give yourself extra warning time in case of a rebound.
otherwise, who is gonna see your legs so why would want them leaner?
this is my fatty perspective.

>>77106739
your legs look equally lean, i just think you have less muscle mass (proportionately) in your legs than the rest of your body, that's why your legs don't appear to be as lean.

>>77106813
>so why would want them leaner?
so why would you want them to be leaner*

>>77106739
You look gay. How do you pee if your underwear doesn’t have a fly? Do you pull your pants down and piss sitting down on the toilet like a girl?

>>77106739
You also have 0 calf muscles. Chicks notice that instantly and will be thinking, guess he skips leg day…

/fat/bros, so far, i haven't eaten any chocolate today.
i WILL stop eating chocolate so i can get my weight to go down again!

>>77106823
NTA, but you pull just the front of the underwear down. I've been doing it this way since forever and it's easier than navigating my massive penis through that little hole.

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>>77106813
Yeah I wasn't super fat but very soft no muscle
>pic related
I might try to cut down another 5lbs and see if anything changes anything then figure it out. I just have always not liked how my legs look and I am hoping I will like them if they are leaner kind of like the last bastion of my fat self that's left.
>>77106818
I have been neglecting legs lately because I didnt want to make them even bigger. But maybe you are right and I am exacerbating the issue. Good call.
>>77106826
>tfw 15.5inch calves
They were like 17.5 inches when I started losing weight. Same logic as above but I figured just incline walking was enough to train them. I will add some calf raises.

>>77106847
flex your quads and pinch the fat at the midway point between your knee and hip joint then measure the pinch with a ruler, a measuring tape or anything.
make another pinch next to your navel and measure it as well.
then compare the two.
i do believe your legs are fatty and that anon is full of shit.
trying to get bigger quads will make you look like a clown if you don't have an equally big upper body.

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>>77106847
>>77106867
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zj9chziWUk8

>>77106867
I measured with calipers my navel is 8mm and 15mm for thigh. 9mm for chest.

>>77106847
yeah I don't think you should be scared of putting on additional muscle mass in your legs. I have a somewhat similar issue where my right bicep and tricep are more developed than my left, which makes my left arm look "fatter" and less defined, when in reality it's just got less muscle mass there. Shouldn't be too difficult for you to add decent mass on your legs, I bet within 6 months you could see a significant difference. I'm sure cutting a bit wouldn't hurt, but I don't think it's the answer here.

>>77106838
That sounds pretty gay anon. You may be a homosexual

>>77106891
that should tell you your legs are simply fatter than your upper body.
since you are on a roll, slim down some more before deciding to build your quads.
what is your starting and current weight? and height?

>>77106909
230lbs starting 183lbs right now 6ft tall.

>>77106915
>24.8 BMI
you must be more well muscled than the video shows.
imo, don't bother building quads. just slim down some more since you really want it. you can gain back some weight once you get it out of your system. or maybe even retain it. who knows what you'll want once you reach it.

>>77106935
I dunno how much of it is just being glycogen depleted maybe I'd look bigger if I carbed up. But my current lifts are 280x5 for squat, 145x5 OHP and 230x5 bench. I only do SL deadlift atm and it's 295x5. Nothing amazing but I hope when I eventually start eating at maintenance I can slowly build my squat back up to over 315x5. I'll measure my thighs and calves and cut down 5 more pounds and report back in a month or two. Thanks a lot to all of you kind anons for humoring me, and for the advice. WAGMI

It's amazing how just going from 1500 calories and feeling fine except a bit weak to 1350 calories and feeling like crap and it plays with your emotions, you feel different but you're losing more weight.

150 calories from feeling fine, normal, to feeling pretty bad.

>>77106996
Whats your weight? I sometimes eat only 1000kcal and dont feel much difference to 1500 kcal

I have a stomach bug and i have shit like 15 times today. Scale will go down.

>>77106901
I get more pussy than you do

>>77107041
you didn't lose fat

>>77107051
You seethe, i get skinny.

>>77107045
Probably. I’ve been married for 10 years with 4 kids so I’m lucky if i get it 2-3x a week. In terms of total number tho? I totally got you beat, fag

3 hours until the job interview. 170.6lb, bagel sandwhich and greek yogurt and eggs for breakfast. Fresh haircut. Demo reel ready to go. wagmi

>>77107061
they're gonna hear you're 170.6 and not 170.0 and they will immediately ask you to leave, sorry anon...

>>77106999
85kg

Fatty Contest
AngloSperg
254

I drink so much water, only to piss again and again...
I wake up 3-4 times every night just to piss.
Was I only born to drink water, and piss it?

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Had a cheat day that turned into a cheat week and a half. Gym tomorrow is going to suck

>>77107149
are you sure you don't have the beetus, anon?

Yo guys are those scales calculating body fat accurate or all bullshit?

>>77107182
Yeah had my blood tested already, I'm not thirsty I only drink because I have to for a good diet...

>>77107188
nice
>>77107184
mostly bullshit. one anon said he did a dexa scan and it was the same result as the navy method linked in the OP.

>>77107184
bullshit in an absolute sense but somewhat useful for long term trend lines

>255 to 170 in 9 months
>EZ PZ, do 1200-1400 calories a day
>fat melted off
>now TDEE is 2100 calories
>need 1000 fucking calories to lose 2 lbs a week
I've only lost 4 lbs since the end of January... this is hard bros... at this rate I gotta do like 4 more months of this to get to GW.

>>77107248
If it was easy, everyone would do it

>>77106739
You look good. I wouldn't say that your legs look disproportionately fatter at all. You just have less lean mass on your legs. Noticeably your ass, your quads, your calves.

My piss still smells BAD but I don't have UTI symptoms and I'm not in ketosis and I'm not eating a bunch of preserved meat... I've also started soaking the bed at night with sweat, I mean DRIPPING its all soaked. What the FUCK is wrong with me.

>>77107260
are you sure you don't have the beetus, anon?

>>77107248
walk an hour per day

if you're already doing that, walk another hour per day

>>77107261
It started recently and I've been losing weight, my sugar average for the week is 45g and carb average is 100g

Do you avoid certain fruits and vegetables?

>>77107287
I avoid spinach because of the oxalates. I don't want anymore kidney stones

>>77107287
I don't eat most fruit except berries. I get my fiber and carbs from bulk veggies. A sweet apple is neither treat nor low calorie mass.

>>77107305
I use apple slices in place of a spoon when eating greek yogurt

>>77107287
I only eat broccoli and cabbage. Idk why.

>>77107312
I put blueberries in my greek yogurt, and sometimes vanilla concentrate and/or splenda

Fatty Csontest
TwinkEnjoyer
66.8kg

Fatty Contest
TwinkEnjoyer
66.8kg

fuck I'm retarded

Blueberries and Strawberries are my anti-drug. Anytime I get cravings I get a bowl of berries and slowly munch them one by one. It works 99% or the time as a appetite suppressant and keeps me from eating something more caloric.

I've considered switching to broccoli, but eating broccoli all the time like that would mean a lot more trips to the store and I already get weird looks from the cashiers when I come up to the register with 7+ bundles of broccoli.

>>77107388
Try frozen broccoli, dump a few in the pan whenever you get the munchies

>>77107399
I literally never thought to freeze broccoli. I always eat it fresh, or air fried, I love the crunch.

Broccoli stalks cut into sticks are fucking god tier snacks.

>>77107287
Only because of price.

Girlfriend broke up with me after many years.


Thought it would be weight loss motivation to get a new hottie but instead I just feel like I don’t wanna get out of bed

>>77107424
Dieting requires little work and go for walks when you can, if only to get your blood running a little, helps reducing the turmoil
Godspeed anon, been there, it gets better eventually but for now lick your wounds and rest

My heaviest was like 230 and I looked and felt awful
How the hell do people reach 300+ lbs?

>>77107455
it creeps up on you

>>77107471
Man it took me almost 30 years to hit 230
What are people eating?

>>77107455
>>77107485
For me getting to BMI 35 I just didn't care about anything, I ate what made me feel happy or something close to that as much as I wanted or until I couldn't eat anymore. I was so fucking depressed.

>>77107455
at my biggest (260lb) I kept waking up in the middle of the night and thinking I was going to die
that was my limit

>>77107424
I'm sorry this happened anon. Give yourself one day of pity. Lay in bed and feel the feels. Tomorrow, find a way to distract yourself. Go outside. See a movie. Go to work. Go to the gym. The next days just continue. Time will move on. The feelings of pain may not complete subside but they become more tolerable and will fade away. You won't feel like this forever.

>>77107455
Your brain starts to lie to you.

>>77107424
> after many years.
Shoulda put a ring on it anon. Chicks won’t wait around forever. Hope you feel better soon bro

>>77107455
I was over 600lbs before I started losing weight. It does creep up on you and once you get to a certain level of fat you just stop caring bc you’re already fat. What difference does another 10lbs make, and another 10lbs, and another 10lbs…

>>77107455
It crept up on me. Just years of working a desk job and only eating fast food.

>>77107547
600 is insane, how tall are you? and how big are you now?

>>77107455
life is awful, faggot.

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/fat/, I want to know 3 things from you:
1. What you ate today
2. How many calories in total you consumed
3. Your TDEE

Let's see how good of a job you're doing

>>77107768
chicken breast, ground beef, broccoli
1246
Idk

>>77107768
>breakfast was greek yogurt, a banana, and a protein shake, lunch was a tuna wrap, some celery+baby carrots, and another protein shake, dinner was chicken breast with farro and brussel sprouts, post workout was a protein shake (whey in water). Got about 8 16fl oz bottles of water in today too.
>Between 1600-1700 calories
>Most TDEE calcs have me around 3100-3300 calories a day

>>77107768
1lb ground beef
3 cups of roast veggies
1 pint of high protein ice cream (400 calories thanks to the creami)
1500 consumed according to MFP
TDEE is 2900

>>77107803
derp I mean 2500 not 1500

>>77107768
Oatmeal with berries
Whole wheat bread with smoked trout
Veggie/garbanzo paella rice with no added oil
A few dates

About 1500 calories
Unknown tdee but probably around 2200-2400

Another day of diarrhea for the weightloss gods

>>77107768
>chicken breast and lentils soup
>1100
>1850

>>77107768
>Plain Greek yogurt, sardines, black bean/scrambled egg tacos and black beans by themselves, so far :>
>~2200?
>2100

I do 96 hour fasts so I don't care if I exceed my TDEE on my eating day, I target 2000-3000 calories generally.

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>>77106114
If I workout too late I get insomnia and can't sleep. But I feel like such total garbage when I wake up that working out in the morning isn't the most viable alternative. Fuck I do?

>>77107768
ground beef (250g) and two handfuls of green beans cooked in 1 tablespoon of extra virgin + 1 carrot & 2 minced garlics olive oil (~600kcal)
1 bottle of milbona protein shake (210 kcal)
2 tablespoons of whey protein powder mixed in with water in the morning after jog, 2 in the evening after gym (~480 kcal)
~1290kcal total

>>77107919
Fix your sleep schedule so you dont wake up feeling like garbonzo

>>77107919
I workout around 5-6pm and can't fall asleep before 2 am it's soul crushing especially since I wake up every day around 5-7am

"[I send thee Paul] to open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by FAITH that is in me (Jesus Christ)."
>Acts 26:18
"For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel"
>1 Corinthians 1:17

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>>77107287
Yes I have IBS. I have to or my stomach gets so bad I can't eat.

>>77107854
I know exactly which poster you are

>>77108018
Of course, the Christian larber in the thread posts irrelevant quotes.

Fatty Contest
SparklingWaterGuy
87.6kg

Took a break and ate at TDEE today. I've been trying to hold off on it, but I'm sore as hell from yesterday's workout.

>>77107845
Water isn't weight, you're just wringing yourself out like sponge like those cheating bhenchods in ufc/boxing. It'll be right back once you stop shitting.

>>77108061
Excuses, fat shit.

>>77108125
Yes, my excuse is that occasional breaks are proven to be helpful for long term sustainable weight loss and combating yo-yo dieting.

Extremely noob question but you need to eat more calories than your TDEE to build mass, right? I've only ever lifted while losing weight, and got pretty nice results strength wise, and I'm currently doing it all over again after a few years long break away from clean diet and exercising.
But this time around I don't just want to lose my fat, I want to get ripped as well.
So am I supposed to just keep going at a deficit for a couple of months until I reach a weight I like, and then eat more than my TDEE for the purpose of building mass... And endlessly cycle between the two?

>>77108141
>So am I supposed to just keep going at a deficit for a couple of months until I reach a weight I like, and then eat more than my TDEE for the purpose of building mass
Other way round, eat more to build up mass (energy reserves) and then lift heavy to convert it into muscle. Bulk and cut.

I finally understand why fasting is so suppress by zog. Holy shit I feel like a totally different person after 72 hours. When I broke the fast food tasted thousands of times better.

WHY IS THIS NOT MAINSTREAM

>>77108141
Stick to a high protein diet, avoid sugars/fructose, and train hard. The closer you get to being ripped, the more strict you have to be.

>>77108171
Its pretty mainstream dude. Its the current fitness fad.

>>77108192
No anon, ozempic is what's become mainstream

>>77108171
because fasting can't sell anything
it's the antithesis of capitalism

>>77108171
Because it doesn't work you cringe shill

>>77108213
>it doesn't work
well well well ladies and gentlemen place your bets what will it be this time?

>"muh starvation mode"
is looking pretty hot, up three points since last time.
>"cico isnt real [fails to explain]"
seeing a bit of traction as well.
>"you'll just gain it back the moment you eat/drink"
absolute fan favorite, don't sleep on this one!

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>>77108212
Oh how wrong you'd be

>>77108220
>BRO FASTING WORKS
>Meanwhile everyone who fasts is also an obese fuck

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>>77108230
>people who try to lose weight have weight to lose

>>77108230
>CAN YOU BELIVE EVERYONE ON [weight loss method] IS OVERWEIGHT?!

actual <70iq mong, arent the captchas meant to keep you out?

I got my lowest weight of 62.6kg 12 days ago and only just this morning hit it again, with every morning in between being higher. I think getting 10k steps a day is mandatory for me now to keep losing since my TDEE without must only be an average deficit of 200 calories a day

>>77108233
>>77108236
If it works why are you fat?

>>77108238
200 is within the margin of adaptive thermogenesis. Why even bother

>>77108240
>why do thirsty people drink water? Water must make you thirsty

>>77108244
Yeah, that's why you need electrolytes idiot.

>>77108248
Concession accepted

>>77108251
You got dabbed on so hard, lmao typical fastard brain.

>>77108240
sorry for being mean, you're clearly developmentally challenged. Like three of us tried to get at the fallacy you're making but allow me to lay it out for you.

You won't see a lot of skinny people on any given weight loss method because they.. don't need to. Are you connecting the dots here? Once you go from super fat to just regular fat you can quit fasting and eat at slight deficit, you're always going to see fatter people using weight loss strats more than non-fats. I'm dead positive you know what's going on here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

>>77108226
>THE FASTING CUM
?? wouldn't cum break the fast

>>77108261
Porn has destroyed your brain

>>77108258
>dabbed on
>so hard
Oh OK you're like 13. Carry on.

>the retards who killed /fast/ fill the thread as soon as its mentioned

Can't make this stuff up.

>>77108272
Fasting is a substitute for a personality

>>77106114
>No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
how significant is this? I've switched from lifting to mostly cardio and I'm starting to get worried about skeletonization.

>>77108310
Skinnyfat awaits you

>bro not eating like cures cancer and shit
Lmao people actually believe this

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Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 90.15 kg

Overall Progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq_PJ999gMI

>>77108381
some retards believe that about water, so you better give that up

I need to lose 25kg

yes i am obese. what do?
I started a c25k type program, and do 10k steps a day. should i do 20k steps a day?

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>>77108381
To be fair there's alot of research that says it weakens cancer cells when you hit autopathy in 72 hours, not killing.

>>77108415
huh?

>>77108037
w-which poster am i?

>>77108141
>you need to eat more calories than your TDEE to build mass, right?
not for noobs, no.
i've been in a deficit for months yet my reps numbers have increased some. i'm not even averaging 70g of protein per day.
you might need to be in a surplus for significant muscle building but building muscles totally works in a deficit. i bet if you can get 150g of protein, you'll do much better than me.

um, based?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/22Q8uIq4ZaE?feature=share

>>77108171
not everything works for everyone.
i feel like shit when fasting and can't even go to sleep. most i did were 4 days water fasting.
one anon mentioned sleeping better while fasting.

>>77108410
You need to get your diet under control as that constitutes the majority of the reason you are fat. You cannot exercise your way out of it, especially while obese.

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>>77106114
A genuine post on /pol/ of all place

>>77108310
the body discards what muscle mass it doesn't need to save energy.
everyone looks better with muscle.
why would you not lift?

>>77108489
>hey guys look, a poltard said something retarded
never seen that before

>>77108410
start with maximizing protein. 1g per lb of total weight. protein will satiate you and cause you to eat less.
then read the OP.

As I've gotten older I keep feeling more and more like time was moving too fast until I started dieting and working out. Now I want time to move faster so I can weigh myself and get to my goal weight.
Guess the secret to making the years feel like they're not passing by too quickly is to keep yourself busy and actively working towards something.

>>77108489
Bet he gets aroused when he puts gas in his car too

If you're not sneezing like you have hay fever in a field, you didn't work hard enough today

>>77108552
So that's what was going on when I got home from the gym last night
Thought I caught something but feel fine this morning

>>77108478
You can't increase mass in an energy deficit. It's physically impossible.

>>77108552
what

>>77108579
Breathing hard during cardio dries your nasal passages out, which makes you sneeze like a motherfucker, especially for beginners

>>77108589
This has happened to virtually nobody. Nobody ever mentions this.

>>77107287
No and I have a crazy sweet tooth, and oranges make fantastic satiating low calorie desserts

>>77108592
Oranges are great

>>77108230
youre so right king fasting doesnt work its all metabolism and genetics and predetermined anyway

Wish I could damage my metabolism and make it less efficient. No, I don't need the nutrients from this food I'm eating; I just want to eat it.

Can't wait to go to the gym later and hit new PRs (he won't hit those new PRs)

>>77108578
t: retard who doesn't understand that converting fat to muscle works even when eating at deficit

>>77108618
If you already wish for magical shit just wish for omnipotence retard

>>77108626
Converting fat into muscle is not a thing. Esterified triglycerides contain no amino acids You're embarrassing yourself

>>77108578
lmao you're so retarded
there are countless but countless examples of fat people gaining musclemass on a deficit

starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8
current weight: 86.2kg 24/2
goal weight: 70 kg
height: 179 cm

method: rolling 72s with water and coffee, starting on 18/1 i move on to rolling 48s.

>>77108634
>you're so retarded
>countless but countless
>musclemass
You're dismissed

>>77108634
Yes. MUSCLE mass. You can't gain MASS on a deficit. You can't expend more energy tan you take in and become larger and weight more. You can increase the ratio of muscle MASS to fat MASS though

>>77108640
oh you just said mass my bad
either way you're technically wrong
you can gain 'mass' on a deficit in certain scenarious, you can be on a deficit and have expanded glycogen stores then refill with carbs and as they get stored in muscle as glycogen again you will gain 'mass' on a deficit

>>77108589
I have also never heard of this, even after I was gasping for air at the very beginning.

>>77108141
>a couple of months
NEVER put a timeframe on something that should be a lifestyle

>weigh myself 2 years ago
>oh 115kg, not bad, 5kg away from the dreaded 120
>reward myself with extra bag of chips :)
>...
>weigh myself 2 days ago
>HOW THE FUUUUCK IS IT 89 KGS WHAT THE FUUUUCK
>go cycle up a mountain at nighttime, stop at calipark to do pullups
>go home and take a wild shit

>>77108760
What did you mean by this

>>77108760
>>77108811
i'm not fluent in retard but i think he's comparing himself in the past to his current self, as it pertains to reacting to the number on the scale.

>morning - a sandwich and white coffee
>lunch - salad with garlic dressing and chicken breasts
>homemade dinner
AND A HALF A PACKET OF SWEETS WHAT THE FUCK AND I JUST WENT AND GRABBED THAT RIGHT AFTER DINNER

Not enough carbs at lunch, I assume. Dinner didn't work quickly enough to satiate my hunger so I came after sweets.

>>77108830
you are exceedingly fluent in retard

>>77108866
burn it off
BURN IT OFF BEFORE YOU GO TO SLEEP
>in truth, as smarter anons here perviously said, this is not necessary; the most important is to learn from this minor mistake, not repeat it and keep your habits in the long ru-
BURN IT OFF GO OUT OF THE HOUSE TRY A SPRINT RRRRRR

I started out at 135kg and I've not dropped 25kg's bros.

A-a-am I going to make it bros?

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Fatty Contest
HeavyTrevy
219.4

I've been taking every measurement since starting my diet, but I forgot to track penis length to see how much I uncovered from the fat. Now I will never know.

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I tore apart a rotisserie chicken I bought from the local grocery store. I removed all the skin that i could, but I didn't take care to separate what counts as the light and dark meat. How many calories and grams of protein would you estimate this to be?

>>77109008
If your lifestyle is such that it will gradually lead you to your new body, then you will make it; if not then you will not make it
Make sure your weight loss is slow enough so your skin has time to adapt to your new body.

>>77109024
It's an animal corpse full of hormones and industrial waste. Try whey, which is at least dehydrated animal baby food. Also, if you insist, the absorption of said protein is what matters the most, and in that regard, animal baby embryos win (eggs).

Down 60lb

Just started test this week (was at <200ng/dcl so its free from the doc), first dose of tirzepatide on monday.

Excited to see this go into overdrive

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>>77109077
did you take your test levels measured in the middle of a big deficit?
You sound very fat and it sounds extremely stupid to hop on test if you dont know your test levels at a good baseline (not fat + maintenance calories)

>>77109077
Drug cheat, very cringe.

did job interview anon get the job?

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>>77109024
With skin, w/o bones, whole chicken is 200kcal per 3oz cooked.

>>77109077
Good luck hopefully you don't have alot of fat don't want that exogenous test aromatizing. :^)

>>77109080
I'm older and working with an actual urologist, he said my levels were low enough that even if I lost all the weight I'd still be low

>>77109106
that's why they make inhibitors m8

>>77109115
Yeah only they don't put you on them until the problem happens. Praying for you not to get gyno bro.

>tfw my track jacket weighs almost 2 pounds
>rest of my clothes weigh 4 pounds
wtf!
weight tracking is basically bullshit if clothes weigh this fucking much!
idk how to feel about this. i'm glad that i'm actually closer to my goal weight but this is bullshit

>>77109152
weigh yourself naked retard
>wake up
>shit
>weigh
>shower
why does this confuse you

>>77109155
my scale isn't in the bathroom. it's a shitty chinese electronic one so the steam and water will fuck it up. i assume.

>>77109186
put your scale in the bathroom like every other normal person on the planet

Fatty Contest
LeanAndStrong
84.5kg

It's over... I'm a fucking alcoholic bros, I'm drinking too much wine... I love wine so much

>>77109024
Its a wash. First off its cooked, then put under a heat lamp, so the moisture loss is likely way more than normal cooked chicken, then you have the fact that its marinated, and you didn't separate the light and dark. Whatever you think it is, double it calorie wise.

>>77108990
>so i came after sweets
damn they were that good? what brand

>>77109201
I was raised muslim and never got the urge to try alcohol even after renouncing, what does it taste like? does wine taste like apple blackcurrant juice

>>77109243
Alcohol literally tastes like poison, it burns and makes you nauseous
Some alcohols like wine or beer taste okay because the flavor of their ingredients masks the disgusting poison taste

>>77109243
It's an acquired tasted which means it's gross at first until you've had it enough and it becomes normal. No one would drink alcoholic drinks if they didn't get you fucked up.

>>77109265
incorrect, i got drunk as a kid and tried alcohol many times during my youth and adult life and i cannot stand it, any form of it; it's not gross at first it's gross period

>>77109249
>>77109265
well shit then, i always assumed whiskey tasted like apple juice or something and bourbon tasted like a bit honey, and rum was another fruity drink, guess not

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>pissing every 5mins
>not able to shit
Yep, its fat losin’ time

>>77109278
There's sweet alcohols but they're sweet because of high sugar content masking the alcohol. Brandy can be quite pleasant.

>>77109102
Are the rotisserie chickens at the store just lying about their calories? The nutrition facts says that a whole chicken is 130 calories per 3 oz. But this chart says 200. That's over 50% more calories that aren't counted.

>>77106114
It's day 40 of my fast. I am feeling fine, well now I do feel a bit weak. Almost 40lb down. I look like I came out of a POW camp.
I'm still thinking I go to day 42 so I can say 1000 hours.

>>77109278
They’re definitely not sweet, kind of hard to describe
Rum does taste kind of caramel-y but in quite a sour way I guess
Cider actually is the only sweet alcohol and can be very nice, I think in america the alcoholic kind is called hard cider
Beer sort of tastes like drinking bread
It all depends on your tastebuds, I hated beer as kid but now love it, I still hate the taste of wine, other spirits are fine for me but I can’t stand vodka. Some people enjoy a glass of neat spirits just with ice, some people only drink them mixed with other drinks to get drunk
If you’re interested but don’t want to try a normal version basically everything has an alcohol free version these days

>>77109376
No on believes you fastard shill

>>77109376
starting and current weights?

Did I have too much salt yesterday? I was on a downward trend for four days straight, then this morning I was back at the weight I was four days ago. I haven't eaten anything today so by the time I got home and put my big dinner in the oven, my weight was back where I expected.

>>77109376
163.
123.5
Still going a little. Idk how hydrated I was at the top but the bottom weight is morning dry weight.
>>77109385
Love the weakness, means I'm better than you.

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>finally broke the 66kg plateau into 65
>if i keep at this rate ill lessen my handles even more and be flat bellied in 2 months
feels fucking surreal, never thought id make it here

>>77109523
Weight fluctuates several pounds day to day, like plus or minus 5lbs. Dont worry about it, its normal and nothing to stress over
Give it a few days or a week and weigh again

>>77109541
>123lbs
Lmao midget

>>77109541
>123lb
Either a lying nigger or a mentally ill anorexic bitch, in which case
ayy bby want sum fuk?

>>77109618
Fasting isnt anorexia, your weakness is mental in both meanings.

>>77109625
Being 123lbs is anorexia you spaz

>>77109625
fasting for 40 days when you're 163lb and a woman is definitely anorexia and you're mentally ill, just my type of fuck

>>77109629
short ppl exist anon..

>>77109630
163 is FAT as fuck for most women except Amazonians. Method is a bit much but hey she lost it.

>>77109629
No it's not. For a shrimp its the higher end of acceptable

>>77109630
I only am blessed when you attack me for my religious practices.

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>>77109618
>>77109629

You know what, I was gonna make a smoothie for dinner but I don't even need to. It's 8:30, I will be asleep in 1.5hrs. I'll eat when I get up.

steamed cauliflower, carrots, quinoa pasta and bacon wrapped tuna for dinner, I love diet food

>>77109732
>bacon wrapped tuna
you still have fatty brain

>>77109736
I need to fry up a bunch of bacon anyways because it was BOGO and I'm out of bacon bits, I'm counting the calories so why not have fun?

go eat lentil soup diogenese

>>77109736
NTA, obviously, but I never understood Bacon. Its not that good. Its just fatty thin meat.

>>77109743
People like the texture, not flavor profile. It's all about how it's prepared and personal preference. However back when the internet was young, it was a random meme that popped off and cultivated a large demand for it.

>>77109743
humans are hardwired for evolutionary reasons to enjoy salty fats

>>77109754
Hmm I hate crunchy so I guess that explains that.

>>77109758
They are also hardwired to eat as much as possible at all times, doesn't mean its good

>>77109768
but that wasn't the question, retard-kun

>>77109770
oh missed one post in the chain there

there's nothing actually wrong with bacon, it just gets a bad reputation because it's calorie dense and fatties struggle with portion control

but if you ARE controlling portions, 200kc of bacon is the same 200kc as anything else

>>77109773
This. Isn’t a slice of bacon only like 40 calories anyway? Fucking love me some bacon. Half a dozen slices for breakfast is ultimate

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>noooo you can't just enjoy food while losing weight! muh stoicism! muh addiction!
IIFYM go brrrrr

Today I used 94% lean beef instead of 85 or 80 for meat sauce for a pasta and it didn't taste any worse, but apparently it cuts out a fair amount of fat calories.

>>77109796
I was a naughty little chubster last night and had crab spaghetti without weighing anything because I wanted pasta so bad

>>77109796
you had 45 grams of bacon, calm down there buddy

finally switched to an intermediate lifting program, and I am progressing in strength again
dont know why i didnt do this sooner, I just assumed I wasn't going to get stronger on a caloric deficit

>>77109775
You can get that down if you trim some of the fat or drain the grease better.

>>77109856
that's what portion control means anon, I ate one 15g slice while cooking and toothpicked two slices to the tuna, it was a tasty garnish not a main course

>>77109690
The female thing was just that anon insulting me. I am in fact not a femanon.

>>77109895
I'm very sorry for your height. Are you south American?

>>77109374
maybe, maybe not. supermarkets inject their chicken with a salt brine that makes its juicier, but also increases the weight.
on the other hand, nutrition labels are legally allowed to be off by 20%.

PSA that canned mackerel has same taste and nutrition as canned salmon but half the cost

>>77107287
I avoid sprouts because they trigger autoimmunity and tend to carry pathogens

>>77109899
I haven't said my haight I don't think. Why is everyone in this thread so strange?

>>77110052
If you're 120lbs and not underweight you're a shorty

>>77110055
I am underweight. Do you people not have the ability to read?

Had a moment of weakness today and ate KFC. It was delicious. Now call me a fat piggy.

>>77110096
It's ok to eat big sometimes. Keeping up your morale is key.

>>77110096
just make tommorow a fasting day and youll be fine

What would you recommend to swap instead of pasta, potatoes or rice? I eat this slop every day in unhealthy portions and can't imagine going a day without it.
Do I bite the bullet and cut all that shit out completely?

>>77109374
See
>>77109224
If you buy a rotisserie chicken as is right when they put it out, it's probably closer to 130 calories. But the longer it stays in that container, cooking under the heat lamp, the less moisture is in the actual meat, increasing the density and thus calories.

I haven't eaten at TDEE or above since at least New Year, convince me to eat a family pizza, a dinner pack of ribs, a garlic bread and chug a 1.25L diet coke.

>>77110179
You don't need to swap potatoes, they're nutritious.
Try out black/pinto/kidney/etc. beans and oats instead, mess with them a bit aka proper seasoning before writing them off.

Anyone got any experience with medications such as Metoprolol? I'm taking it because my pulse is high. I'm on 50mg a day. Just wondering if it affects my TDEE in any meaningful way since it lowers my heartrate.

>>77110218
>Convince me to go back to my old ways that made me unhappy enough with myself to improve
Either you're going to do it or you're not and taking the fact that you've already outlined everything you want to binge on. It sounds like you don't need any convincing. It's better to just have a relaxed day and have a slice or two of pizza, maybe a couple wings, and a slice of garlic bread and satisfy your craving, instead of erasing lots of progress with a binge. But you're going to do what you're going to do at the end of the day.

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>>77110179
I replaced rice in my lunches with black lentils, following a modified version of Bryan Johnson's super veggie recipe. I don't crave rice at all any more, I fucking love my lunches now.

cut up a pound of mushrooms and I'm gonna turn them into chips, 3 servings at ~100kc

>>77110272
Nice. What seasonings will you use?

>>77110277
1 tbsp rendered bacon grease (from the bacon wrapped tuna earlier)
1 tbsp white vinegar
2 tbsp flour
2 tsp cracked pepper and garlic
1 tsp msg
1 tsp salt

>>77110286
Sounds amazing anon. Post a pic when they're done, would love to see how they come out.

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I'm trying to use this Waistline app to track my calories in, but I can't find shit. I search for just Egg and all I find are random unrelated shit. What do?

>>77110293
Just use Myfitnesspall or cronometer like a normal person, dude. Come on.

>>77110295
I thought this was what people used. Some Anon itt told me to use it.

>>77110298
Its an Open source alternative to mainstream apps. Just stick with what works. I recommend myfitnesspal

>>77110293
just use grok and tell it what you ate in natural language with the best measurements you have

>>77110307
I liked that it didn't have any ads or UPGRADE NOW bullshit, but I guess I'll try myfitnesspal instead.

>>77110321
Just use an ad blocking DNS. It gets rid of the in-app ads.

>>77108990
It was to late for me, but still try to keep it in mind.

>>77109237
Those kinda marshmallow cubes in chocolate.

>>77109243
If we go with very basic thing, like vodka, it's spicy water. None the actual flavor spicy sauces have, just the burn with maybe a bit of not-quite-water sensation.

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>Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
What does this mean if I just want to lose weight? I'm about 113kg right now. Not sure what my goal weight is, maybe 85-90kg? But how much of that is lean body mass? Fucking science.

>>77110392
just eat 120-160g

>>77110392
your goal LBM is your goal bodyweight times your estimated bodyfat percentage at that weight

my goal weight right now is 165 and I'll be ~15% BF at that weight, so I'll have a lean mass of (165 - (165x0.15)) = 140lb

I gained 3 pounds of fat in 1 week. Weight went from 206 to 215 yesterday. Now I'm going down again (211 today) but eating decisions are becoming very punishing. I feel like it will take a seismic shift in lifestyle for me to get to sub 190. I'd compare to One Piece moving to the new world and that being where the real fight begins.

>>77110470
You ate an extra 10500kcals in a week? Holy fat.

>>77110483
5700 average calories minus 2800 TDEE in 4 days equals an extra 11600 calories.
Primary contributors were chickpeas (4600 cal) and an assortment of fruits: oranges, bananas, and grapes (6600) calories. Carbs are addicting and they make you fat.

I'm just going to use the MyFitnessPal website, fuck these apps. I only eat at home anyway. Using phone for anything but calling and texting and FitNotes is cringe anyway.

>>77110503
Just use paper and pencil.

>>77110384
fucking hell why would anyone subject themselves to that, flavoured alcohol i understand, but if vodka really is just spicy water then what the fuck
I already have a hard time with understanding the appeal of sparkling water, and youre telling me theres spicy water that fucks your brain up people are into?

>some people recognized my weight loss yesterday
feels good bros

>>77110554
Based

>>77110554
I had a dude bring up an extremely offhand specific detail i mentioned about myself like 6 threads ago, some niggas here spook me

>>77110554
This guy is making it.

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>>77110558

Fatty Contest
FatGermanFuck
95.2kg

>>77106214
Yeah I usually do roughly 72h fasts but I I'll switch to 48h so alternate day fasting
The third day I feel too weak
>I need tips on quelling hunger during fasts
I never had to take any supplement, once you do a couple of 48h/72h in a row insulin gets low and you barely feel the hunger