>Who is /fat/ for?For Rotund Roulette Rollers who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious: >>77119480
I hate being fat so much :(
>currently have no kitchen>bodybuilder microwave meals on sale>mfw
>>77122799Weight on the scale goes down but my gut and man tits won’t shrink
Bros, is it easier to drop bf % the lower you go?At some point, I had 38% bf @ 110 kgs, meaning that over 41 kgs of my body mass was fat. I dropped it to 30% @ 94 kg so far, meaning that I lost 16 kgs, out of which 13.6 kgs was fat.Am I correct in suspecting that 30% is halfway between 18% and 38% – meaning that if I just do the same things again, I'm going to lose 12 percentage points of bf instead of 8? Or are these next 16 kgs going to be much harder to lose than the first 16 kgs?
>>77122817>Bros, is it easier to drop bf % the lower you go?No.
>>77122815Genetics and usually stomach/legs tend to go last.
>Finally hook up on Valentine's Day, it's an ftm. /He/ fingers my ass and sucks me dry.>Living in a shelter at the time. He says he doesn't want me living there, offers me a room. >Eat out "his dick", he doesn't shower and I've never eaten box. Gag at first taste but get him off twice. We fucked twice before he mentioned getting off T and wanting kids.>I stopped working out entirely. I cook 3+ meals from scratch for us both along with snacks or small meals.>Get sucked off to multiple loads in a row daily if not twice.He is a complete pathological fucking liar, btw.(he told me today that he was being trained to be a vet assistant despite never getting a degree and he actually performed a historectomy on a pregnant dog on his first day).He doesn't want me to talking to any of the other roommates in fear that I'll end up fucking one of them, shadows me from room to room and can't even do the fucking dishes. But, uh, we argue and shit but leaving or pushing back too far on any of his bullshit so he kicks me out is like complaining my steak is too juicy, that my lobster is too buttery. My dick is drained, my belly is full. This has to be better than the shelter despite everything else.
Really blows my mind that this stray comment is only the tip of the iceberg on /lgbt/. You really are the most vile creatures that crawl the face of the earth. I finally understand why God obliterated Sodom and Gomorrah.
>>77122810Pomni's head is /fat/
>>77122862Do you know where you are you fucking fag? All you degenerates deserve every misfortune in your life, if for no other reason than how fucking stupid you are.
I'm losing fat to fuck femboys in their boy pussys
Unless I'm at 12% I have back fat. I hate it I hate it I hate it. Why is it so hard to just look like a person?
I...I ate a full meal for lunch...I was supposed to save the quota for dinner... I'm sorry T^T
I'm losing fat to fit lingerie and actually look sexy enough (and be confident enough) to dominate my gym bro husband
>>77122915Post pic XP (No judgement will be made)
>>77122920(Yes it will) (Also no I'm fat and that's disgusting. I wouldn't fuck me. I cover mirrors when I'm alone and avoid looking when I'm not)
>>77122915What size lingerie are you trying to fit into?
>unironic faggot talkNever thought I would miss the cabin hot sauce fag and the anorexic chick but I would take them any day over this.
>>77122903Lol I have the same problemI always thought I had a hunchback but its actually just a massive pad of fat on my upper back
>>77122940Yeah i think these are just the typical /fit/ degenerate cunts leaving their shitty threads, trying to derail this generalto all you disgusting fucks, kys, to those who came here to talk fatloss, wagmi
>>77122862fat dudes into ftms actually exist?
>>77122862Please be bait. C'mon man, quit fuckin trannies and get your fucking life together
If I lose any more weight, I'm gonna need a new belt.I've only had this one for like 3 weeks.
>>77122959Same here. I'm on my last belt loop. Having to buy new pants now tooIt's ultimately a good thing, though
>>77122926I definitely wouldn't. Can't say about the others.
>be me>31>decide to try frolicking like my favourite 17-year-old looking 36-year-old>knees crack and now I'm in pain
>>77122799Been dieting, lifting, /roon/ing/biking and yoga-ing now for about 8 weeks. Not weighing myself but using clothes to track and it's working very well. Ran 8.5 miles on saturday and biked 27 on sunday. VO2max is still shit, but considerably less shit than it was in December. WAGMI
>>77122944Its on my ribs too like man back titties, but it's only super bad if I'm wearing anything tight. The hunchback went away when I hit overweight thank God
>>77122940You remember them??? How long have you been here and you BETTER have made progress
>swap chicken breasts and butter for ground beef>feel satiated all day on 1500 caloriesWtf I love tallow now
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 92.15 kgOverall Progress:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyMotivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiJbSYznS6I
Man I wish I could have a cold beer right now
Have slept like shit for the past 4 days and not sure why, can this be related to dieting?
>>77123128>can this be related to dieting?High probability if your diet has changed.
>>77123128How do you wake up? Mind alert but body like stone? If yes then that's cortisol creepingin, likely because you went above your fat oxidation threshold. I suggest adding more carbs to all your meals.
>>77122935Less about clothing size, more about measurements. A 23" waist would be a dream... 26" chest (under the udders) would also be great. Hip ehhh I mean I'm very off and in about because he like most men love big round ass and hips so if I can maintain his 10" greater than waist I'm happy. I know I won't be perfect, but I can't let the saggy skin keep me this way. I'm pudgy and my arms double in girth if pressed against my sides. I feel my torso is barrel shaped. My face is round not angled. I wanna look like a hot 20yo that is doing damn near constant cardio and gives other women eating disorders just by existing. My dream would be to look like picrel, I know I can't but fuck I need to at least try my best. Build up my credit so I can get skin tightening shit done.
>>77122799Damn, she hit the quackpot!
>>77123140Been dieting for non-stop for 8 weeks now, same diet throughout of high protein.>>77123152I'm on a carb-free diet, but I eat like 100g of carbs 2 times a week. I do wake up alert but that's normal for me.
>>77123173>200g carbs/weekThe only kind of person who can get away with this is a 60 kg homebound streamer who does less than 8k steps/day and eats 1500 kcal.Tell me anon how tall and how active are you?
Started last year at 108kg. Now at 77kg, mostly by fasting 2 days a week.This month I'm going all in and fasting 4 days a week, with 1 day of eating half of my daily calories. 10K steps each day as well.At 179cm, my prediction is to hit 70kg at the end of the month.My goal is 60kg. We're all gonna make it, bros.
>>77123154Keto and intermittent fasting, and tone your muscles with resistence training, and lots of incidental & recreational walking.With hard work and consistency, any average man can become a beautiful woman.
>>77123184You're making an even bigger blunder than I did.You're just dehydrating yourself just to hit a magic number. 77 kg at 179cm is already good. Start eating carbs, pump iron and get plumpy. You already made it.
Did anyone have any success with buying reta from AliExpress shadow links?
>>77123192Except I can't change my low hips and wide rib cage, I can't change my skin quality without scars or regular touch ups, I have my dream poster girl and I'm gonna do my best but I know I'll never be her. Best I ever achieved was 28" chest 24" waist and 34" hip. And it was hard to maintain. In fact, I didn't. And I still had fat on my ribs that looked like I had 4 tits. I still had hip dips. My face was still leaning towards round. I had this weird loose skin as the top of my thighs so I never got that full thigh gap. I can try harder this time to get there and stay there and hopefully go beyond.
>>77123180175cm 96kg, I do full body workouts 2x a week.I'm gonna track my water intake for a few days and see if that improves it, otherwise I'll do a week on maintenance.
I have been losing weight, but what upsets me is that is mostly because I got Community College, meaning I skip lunch and go directly to dinner.I am exercising again at least once a week, but it makes me worried by the time I am out, I will regain all the weight...hell I was on my way to 78 and today I am 80 after a week of no college.
Best lifts to help with loose skin under arms? if that's even possible
>>77123262All you can do is give it time and build arms. Mostly tricep. >>77123201I WISH I could trust random vials and just inject myself
>>77123211I still think you're not eating enough carbs. But I guess we'll see how it works out for you.
>>77123258Eat whole healthy foods and avoid junk, you'll be good.
>lose 150lbs>still an autistic loser who can't talk to women>but now I also have horrific loose skinGreat......
>>77122959Just use a hole puncher until your size is is going to stay more consistent
>>77122959>>77122974just get more holes punched in wtf are you saying
>>77123351Wrong priorities in life, go back to being a waddling fatass
>>77123351Just get it snipped if you're lean
I have lost 80 lbs in 6 months (300->220). I'm tired and hangry all the time. can't wait to hit goal weight and add rice back into my diet.
My life sucks eternally and junk food is the only thing that gives me release. What do? My life isn't gonna get any better
>>77123351I got the loose skin too. it makes me sad. I feel like a lovecraftian horror but at least i look hot with clothes on :/ what can be done bros?
>>77123371loose skin surgerytattoossteroids
>>77123368idk save the money and spend it on a trip to thailand
>>77122817Losing 15 lbs at 220 lbs will have you lose less % of body fat than losing 15 lbs at 185 lbs because it's a percentage of your total weight.This doesn't mean losing 15 lbs at 185 will be easier. In fact it could possibly be harder because your TDEE goes down as your weight goes lower.
>>77123352>>77123358If it's a nice belt that you like, go to the trouble of doing a good job on the holes. Get a cheap tool for it and do it right - don't just jab a screwdriver through it.
>>77123404NTA, but I see where he's coming from. 1lb is less of 300 than it is of 200, so if he can maintain the deficit steadily than the individual pounds count for more as he goes.But yeah, harder and harder to maintain the deficit the closer you get.
I want to fill up the rest of my budget with candy today.
>>77122817Mechanistically not, behaviorally, yes
>>77122951>>77122955>>77122877It's one guy who frequents these generals, who posts these elongated made-up stories about acting degenerate with MTF or FTM's. The stories are ridiculous and change every time.
>>77123523Ok
>>77123424Even if it’s a nice belt you like the goal is to ultimately never be able to use it again
I noticed that I can stave off my hunger for a while by just taking a sip of tobascoIt's only 30mg of sodium too, not bad
>>77123550>tobascothat's shit's just vinegar and pepper juice. my stomach would refuse further entry as well if I just drank it.
I've setup a reminder to stand up and march in place for 10 minutes every hour while I'm in the officeI get roughly 1100 "steps" on my watch every time I do this, and I'm in the office for 9 hours usually, so hopefully I just found a hack to burn some extra calories
>>77123552He said "sip"
>>77123583Thats dope anon
new snack unlocked boys>picrel>cooked chicken chopped up mixed with some light mayo and chili flakes/salt/pepper>spread chicken mix on the veggie cakefucking delicious and only about 100-150 calories per
>>77123617Nice
Suffered a rather bad injury, spent a couple months in hospital, fat again.Feels bad man.
cherry coke zero is so good, makes boring meals more fun. those and sparkling ice
>>77122799I'm down 10 lbs but feeling more negative lately, approx 600 cal deficit 13% BF. Why am I such a bitch
My reta came in today and I am scared shitless to pin it. Keep reading about sides related to nausea, libido loss, anhedonia, etc. Fuck bros what should I do?
>>77123708All these sides are from calorie restriction
>day four of the once-monthly cheat day
The more I exercise the more fun it gets, kinda weird
Third week of not doing my walking *WHEEZE*
>>77123748The exercise is funThe recovery is not
>>77123542This makes sense, if you're a foid
Fatty Contest TehPenguinOfDoom178 lbsHalf way through my week of eating at maintenance. Only gained 0.8lbs. Finding it surprisingly easy to eat another 500kcal. Not sure this will have much effect in the long run. Still feel sore at the gym.
I can do finally pushupsNo knees to support, no elevationJust straight up get down, stay straight and push myself up and down 5 timesI havent been able to do that for 15 years
>>771238675 times? Damn thats huge, I can only do 4. Good shit bro
>36 y/o>8 months sober and smoke-free>50 pounds downBroke my diet over the holidays because I kept wanting to drink and smoke, but I kept sober and I'm back on track to losing weight.
>be in my last 20lbs before target weight>brain starts telling me to do take a pause do a maintenance week and reward myself with tasty treatshelp me stay strong anons.
One fucking week into my hard cut and I'm already failing lifts I had in the bag months ago. Just fuck my shit up.I know it'll come back. I know it's just the price to be paid. Fucking hell, though.
>>77123939>NOOO I HECKIN CAN'T LIFT THE HEAVY THING UP ANYMOREGrow up
>>77123982>work for years to build strength>pivot to new goal>years worth of work evaporate almost overnightNTA, but man, maybe once you've accomplished something you'll understand how >>77123939 is feeling right now.
it's over for meI just discovered that the company that makes McDonalds sweet & sour nugget sauce(the only reason to get McDonalds chicken nuggets) also just sells it to the general public under their own brandthis stuff is liquid crack I'm done for
>>77124081Whats it called? Do they make any of their other sauces?
>>77123194I drink a load of water and always hit sodium goals. At 179cm/77kg, I still look quite fat. March and April are gonna be months of extreme dieting for me (800cal/d) and 10K steps every day. That will allow me to look thin by May 5st. That's when I should start to eat well again, with a focus on gaining lean mass.
>>77124084not him but i think its develey
>>77123650Begin again
is a smart scale worth it? It would be nice to have it uploaded to apple health automatically and to get bodyfat% approximation but I I really dont wanna give my data, is it worth it? When I type it out it really seems retardedOr do i just get an regular non zogged scale
>>77124197Let's be real, you only care if you're losing weight. A regular scale can tell you that.
>>77123937Dont do it ya FAT FUCKYou're what, 3 months out? There's not a single good reason to cheat yourself this close to the finish line. FINISH STRONG
460lb goutfag reporting in. For the first time in as long as I can remember I managed a grocery trip without buying anything I shouldn't. Got some tart cherry juice because that is supposed to help with the gout, I'm sipping on a glass of a bit of it mixed with some water now. Pictured is what I'm going to eat for the rest of the week. I know you can make up fancy dressings with oil and basalmic and shit but I'm just not ready for that yet wanted something simpler that I'm used to. So I had an idea, not in the picture but I bought a tub of 1% lowfat cottage cheese. I blended it up until it was smooth and I'm going to mix it with packets of ranch seasoning mix to make a sort of healthy dressing. One half cup is only 80 calories and I figure that should be enough for a big salad. I've been mostly eating hamburger and sausage and pasta and rice before this so I'm hoping a week of salads and cherry juice will make me feel better and clear some of the brain fog. Hope it works out I'll report back with results.
>>77124197the bf% approximations are widely offpersonally I already use an excel sheet for my lifts, so I just put my body weight next to it
Im saving so much money from not eating out slop once per day
>>77122862Holy fuck shit, I came in here wanting to brag that I got under 68 kg, I forgot I was on 4chan.
>>77124406Good for you Anon :^) I'm proud of you. Don't you think you've earned a treat? Nooo not a cookie, you're past that. Get yourself a nice shirt that fits you properly. Maybe new pants too!
>>77122799I CANNOT EAT AT A DEFICIT SEND HELP /FAT/!
>>77124424Yes you can. Eat your protein needs then fill the rest with vegetables. Then just stop eating.
>>77124424Eat protein?
Going to a dinner tomorrow where the expectation is ordering starters, a main and a starchy side (rice/noodles). I'm prepared to get a normal main, how do I get out of ordering the side of carbs without looking like a weirdo?No, discussing this with other diners is not an option, and they will definitely comment on it.|
>>77124433Just cram the carbs, your anus can't legally process food.
>>77124425>>77124431I CANNOT!I USED TO BE ABLE TO EAT AT A DEFICIT WHILE EATING 60ISH GRAMS OF PROTEINS JUST FINE BUT I CANNOT ANYMORE!EVEN AFTER EATING 110 GRAMS OF PROTEIN 2 DAYS IN A ROW I'M STILL SO FUCKING HUNGRY!I EVEN OVERATE TODAY!SEND HELP!
>>77124433Keto is very mainstream
>>77124448First of all, calm down, allcaps helps no one. Second, just stop putting food in your mouth once you hit 1500 calories. You can't eat by accident.
>>77124451Actually, allcaps is cruise control for cool
A pretty woman said she liked my jacket today.First time getting a compliment from a woman I'm not related to in years.Felt nice. Motivated me to keep working at this.
>>77124272Nice grocery haul. Jealous you can still drink juice.
>>77124487It wasn't sweet at all it's extremely sour. I only put a little bit into a glass of water and it was still strong. Not really a pleasurable experience I'm just doing it for the health benefits.
>$100 for a week of groceries>$50 for a week of gassend help
>>77124556Eat less grocery then
>>77124556Your ancestors voted for it, ask them for help.
>>77124560It would probably be cheaper if I was just eating the cheapest junk I can find but milk, eggs, fresh veggies and unprocessed meat are expensive>>77124562I am fully aware my country is a declining shithole and am working towards what my ancestors did, which is up and leave
>>77124564Maybe this can help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J24pCkgJoyQ
>>77124556You can buy 20lbs of dried pinto beans for like $15. 26000 calories, 1820 grams of protein. Put some of that stuff into your diet as filler.
>>77123365remember that there is no going back to normal for ex-fatties without cryolipolysis.fat cells don't die.>>77123368do drugs and hookers. stimulants to lose weight while having fun.https://telegrafi.com/en/he-went-to-Mexico-to-commit-suicide%2C-drugs-and-prostitutes-saved-his-life/
>>77124197one anon did a dexa and the result was the same as the navy method in the OP. i believe a smart scale is not worth it.
>>77124663I posted this the other day, but my scale has me at 25% and Navy at 30%.
What is zone 2 for you guys? I know I am not fit but apparently 4 mph is my zone 2, which is just walking speed for a healthy person
>>77123982Most estrogen filled response ITT, you must have never stepped foot in a gym before
>>77124194Such is life
>>77124686https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/77076156#77078616
God fucking dammit the family got me sick, can't believe I'm going to probably have to miss the gym for a weekFfs
>>77124770body weight in your room whaleo
>>77124773Fuck that if you’re sick just rest & recover as fast as possible, don’t do some half assed exercises and stay sicker longer
I give up. I tried getting down from 82 kg to 75 kg but then I gained everything back to 81 kg. I noticed that the more I try the more I drink and I don’t want to die of cirrhosis. It’s just not for me anymore. I’m 35 and it just doesn’t work as easy as it was when I was 25 and managed to lose 20 kg within a year
How the FUCK some of you keep a deficit of 1000kcal? I eat at this deficit for a few days and I feel like killing myself or someone, I can barely keep it together at 500.Is this a curse? Am I just a retard with zero self control? There's no way this is normal.
>>77124916It’s easier when you are like 20. It gets harder as you age.
>>77124877>>77124945You're a little faggot lol. It takes nothing to just not eat, but you manage to make a six pack magically appear in your fridge every 48 hours.
Fellas, is it possible to eat too little? My daily caloric intake has become like 1000-1200 and people have told me that eating so little will cause me to gain weight. For reference, I'm like 85kg and 5'9" or so, and I go for runs regularly and don't drink alcohol. It's not that I set my calories to 1200 or whatever, it's just what I end up eating naturally when I plan out my meals (breakfast, morning snack, lunch, protein powder and dinner). Generally I'll have shredded chicken for breakfast (100kcal), fruit for a mid-morning snack (100kcal), meat and vegetables for lunch (400-500kcal), a protein powder/drink in the afternoon (150kcal) and dinner will normally be something like eggs, sometimes with a piece of bread (250kcal). It's hard for me to find the motivation to eat more.
>>77124789Exercise makes you recover faster but of course you want to believe the opposite so you can excuse yourself which is why you had to announce it to everyone here
>>77124789>>77124964I think you're right, from what I understand if you're well enough to do something, then its better to do that something than it is to do nothing. Don't push yourself when you're sick, but something light, like half an hour of walking, or doing some warm-up sets is better than sitting on your ass.Depends on how sick you are though. If you're like violently vomiting and shitting your brains out its probably better to not do anything besides rest and drink lots of fluids.
>>77124958>and people have told me that eating so little will cause me to gain weightpeople are retarded and in this case, wrong
>>77124958>people have told me that eating so little will cause me to gain weightThat is physically impossible. Whoever told you that is probably fat and has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. It would literally break the laws of thermodynamicsA car doesnt magically gain more weight in the form of gas if its not fueled. The body doesnt magically gain more weight in fat if its not being fueled (with calories)
>>77124974>>77124975See, I'm skeptical too, but multiple have said that whole "you will enter starvation mode and your body will convert everything it can into fat for later use while using the bare minimum to power your organs" spiel. So, eating like this I should be good and lose weight and not just turn into a blob?
>>77124998Oh god, the old "starvation mode" line? Fat retards say that to rationalize their overeating. It is a myth and traight up doesnt exist at allYou'll lose weight as long as you are eating less calories than you burn. No exceptionsIf you are skeptical try it yourself. Plug your stats in here https://tdeecalculator.net/ to see how many calories you burn in a day. That's called your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure). Then, eat less than that every day. I guarantee you will lose weight over timeConversely, eat more than that, and I guarantee you'll gain weight over time. Its really that simple
>>77125017>Oh god, the old "starvation mode" line? Fat retards say that to rationalize their overeating. It is a myth and traight up doesnt exist at allNone of the people who were warning me were fat. In the past, a GP told me, and recently my GP implied it as well. Neither GP was fat.>If you are skeptical try it yourself. Plug your stats in here https://tdeecalculator.net/ to see how many calories you burn in a day. That's called your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure). Then, eat less than that every day. I guarantee you will lose weight over timeI know, I know. I have lost weight before by eating less, but every time I do it, people come rushing to tell me that eating so little (under 1500 per day) will just cause my metabolism to slow down and my body to give up. My recommended daily caloric intake is like 2200-2500 or so.
Is it normal to not feel sore after lifting and cardio anymore? I’m working out past the point where I’m hyperventilating and sweating buckets but my body never feels sore.
>>77125021Your gps are referring to extreme adaptive thermogenesis. As you lose weight, you burn less calories, your body tries to preserve the fat it has, and your metabolism naturally slows down. This is normal, and nothing to worry aboutNow, if you don't have fat to burn, your body will begin to get calories from other things, like muscle and organ tissue. This is VERY EXTREME and you would have to be malnourished to get to that point. Youd look like a jew in auschwitz, and would have basically no fat on you. But you'd naturally crave calories, eat more, and the problem would fix itself, so long as you don't have an eating disorder. and truth be told, its hard to get to that point with such easy access to calories these daysSo basically, if you're a reasonable weight, do what feels natural. If youre too fat, eat less, and if youre too underweight, eat more. Keep it simple
>>77125045>So basically, if you're a reasonable weight, do what feels natural. If youre too fat, eat less, and if youre too underweight, eat more. Keep it simpleAlright, well, I feel like I have already lost some fat in the few weeks I have been doing this, so if I keep it up for like 3-5 months I should be at my goal weight.
>>77125047That's good anon, keep it up. I hope you reach your goals
>>77125059I do, too. I drink way too much black coffee. Sometimes I put a tiny bit of honey in it, but mostly it's black. The real issue is not drinking, because man, do I love getting absolutely plastered, but I have already gone without booze for months, losing weight just seemed like the next logical step.
>>77124494Just so you know, you can buy tart cherry supplements that contain the natural compounds that help gout. It'll save you a bunch of sugar and calories and it won't be unpleasant in taste. Its not expensive at all and you get way more of the active compounds for your money.
>>77125031You've reached a new point of homeostasis where your muscles are built effectively to handle the workouts and the weights that you are doing. If you increase the weight or change up your workout, you will feel sore again.
>>77123404Thinking of swimming once a week during one of the rest days on top of daily walks and 5 days of gym , shouldn't fuck up my recovery despite being on the cut right?
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 91.9 kgOverall Progress:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyMotivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKdCVJ0J7N4
>>77124916I suggest you switch to High Energy Flux.First run your numbers to figure out your fat oxidation rate and then make a diet/exercise around it. The way I do it is I eat approx 3.3k calories and burn 4k.
What to do, other than stop drinking 1.5lt of soda a day since I can't
>>77125161>179cm 100kg>24.1% bf34.1% maybe lmao
>>77125161Why can't you stop drinking soda?
>>77125171Navy method is p accurate.
>>77125191there is no way he's 24% unless he's on roids and really fucking bigmaybe if he weighed 20kg less he'd be 24% and even then I'd doubt it
>>77125161at the very least switch to 0kc soda but the real answer is start counting ALL your calories
>>77125194Nah, I have measurements fairly close to that and get 25% from Navy method.My bicep is 16.75", forearm 13.5", chest 44.75", thigh 27.5", calf 17.5". Former high school athlete build in my case; probably the same for him. Entirely possible without gear.
>>77125194Well you better believe it because having a near 1:1 ratio when it comes to weight:navel is a reality for anyone who is 6ft+
I must have done something wrong because the calculator in OP says my TDEE is 2800 calories
>>77125109where did your veins go
>>77125094>let me just strain every single muscle in my body simultaneously on a rest day>this couldn't possibly backfire, right
>>77125275Context and details would be helpful
>>77125256179 is not 6ft+
BACK O YO NECK LOOK LIKE A PACK O HOT DOGS
>>77125279Vanished
not eating today
I’m expecting to be a new lowest weight tomorrow morning.
>>77125279I rehydrated and recarbed. >>77125328Ok, not quite 6ft but the point still stands.
Fatty ContestName: TimmyGonnaDoItWeight: 93.2 kg
>>77125401Fuq, I fucked up the formatting.Name: TimmyGonnaDoItWeight: 93.2 kg
After plateauing at 65kg for the past 3 weeks i am giving up on my 1700kcal budget and dropping to 14-1500, im weightlifting 3 days a week so hopefully the muscle loss will be minimal
>>77125453Height?
>>771255535'10
i keep seeing healthy snack recipes made with medzoul dates and they are fairly easy to prepare too. are they good for u or am i missing smth?
>want to lose 20lb, first time losing weight>3 days so far of sticking to calorie count>down 9.5lbdo the fats really think this shit is hard? i'll be down the next 10 by april, what am i missing>>77125597>dateshigh in cal
>>77125623>he doesn't know about water weight
Guess we're sore throat maxxing today, interesting techniqueHope I lost weight from this
>>77125626anon, why would eating less make me hold less water when im drinking the same amount of water
im either eating healthy slopbowls or nothing has anyone achieved to do something thats in between?
Is there anything I can do for a little skin pouch on my lower abdomen? Went from 315 to 210 lbs (the old fashioned way pre-ozempic) and have a little skin flap. It’s been 4 years and hasn’t gone away, but it’s not bad enough to justify surgery.
>>77125646ropemax
>>77122810You're not a bodybuilder, why are you eating like one??
>>77125646>Is there anything I can do for a little skin pouch on my lower abdomen?Surgery
>>77125661If you exercise even once per week, you are technically a body builder
repeat after me >LEAN IS LAW. LEAN IS LAW. LEAN IS LAW. NO DONUTS NO COOKIES. NO DONUTS NO COOKIES. NO DONUTS NO COOKIES. I AM IN A CALORIC DEFICIT. I AM IN A COLORIC DEFICIT. I AM IN A CALORIC DEFICIT.
>DONUTS AND COOKIES ARE ALLOWED UNTIL 1500KCALgot it boss
>>77125635Because your daily deficit is higher than your fat oxidation rate and your body is compensating by draining muscles from glycogen.
How do you stick to your diet during a hangover? I genuinely have no desire for decent food and I have to force myself to slowly eat it, but I simultaneously crave simple carbs.
>>77125675Discipline.
>>77125675>hangoverAlcohol is dead calories anon, switch to cocaine
>>77125677It's weird because usually I can't be hungry for one type of food and not the other. I might prefer junk food, but any food is welcome. After I drink I only want simple carbs
>>77125665This is why you're a fatass bro
>>77125675STOP DRINKING
>>77125675so there is this thing called bulimia
>>77125682If junk food bliss points are the reason then you just need to figure out how to spice your homemade meals. My personal solutions are the following:> Vanilla Extract for Chocolate Porridge> MSG for Chicken and Rice> Spinach for Sweet Potato and Salmon
>>77125673>Because your daily deficit is higher than your fat oxidation rate and your body is compensating by draining muscles from glycogen.can i offset this by increasing the amount of protein in my diet without increasing calories?
I'm coming off a 5-day fast. What should I eat to avoid refeeding syndrome?
>sudden gain in weight after constant gradual weight loss the day before weekend tracking.I fucking hate water weight.
>>7712573415k calories
>>77125733You can not increase any macronutrient without increasing calories. >Carbs have 4kcal / 1gram>Proteins have 4kcal / 1 gram>Fats has 9kcal /1 gramIf you're losing glycogen then it means you're pushing yourself too hard. Keep doing that and your sleep, libido, mood and energy level will pay the price. Carbs are not the enemy. Feel free to copy my spreadsheet:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyFill in the green fields in upper right corner to get the general idea about your Fat%, Fat Oxidation Rate and your BMR.
I've got a breathrough, anons. WAGMI.
>>77125733No. Glycogen is comprised of the storage form of carbohydrates.
>>77125734Broth, veggies and some nuts or a bit of cheese. Wait a bit for it to digest, then have a normal meal.
>>77125085Wow, had no idea those existed thanks I'll check it out.
could anyone share something to cure my sweet tooth for like under 200 or preferably even 150 calories? low sugar high protein would be a plus and no protein powder please
starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8current weight: 85.4 kg 4/3goal weight: 70 kgheight: 179 cmmethod: rolling 72s with water and coffee, starting on 18/1 to 2/3 i did rolling 48s.
>>77125887What is a rolling 72?
>>77125891you eat one meal every 72 hours
>>77125899What the fuck, how do you manage that? Do you eat three days worth of food in one sitting?
>>77125901yes 20k cals in one sitting then starve for 72 hrs
>>77125901almost one day worth of food, the rest is handled by my fat reserves
How long after starting the gym and creatine will the scale start going down more than .2 or .5 lbs a week
>accidentally eat undercooked chicken >rate of weight loss accelerates Coincidence or parasites?
>>77125934you are DONEZO
>>77125934Assworms typed this post.
>>77125933As soon as you decrease your calories enoughalso creatine doesn't help with weightloss, it rather hinders it a little bit
>>77125876mix a cup of non-fat Greek yogurt (130ish cal) with a package of sugar-free gelatin dessert mix (20 cal). Gets nice and thick and sweet and is basically all protein.
>>77125934Its called the placebo effect
>>77125934If you had parasites I think youd feel awful.In the future when eating suspicious chicken drink a strong alcohol.Sailors who had their ration of gin with their dinner didnt get food poisoning when their crewmates did.
Any simple lentil soup recipe? I tried watching tutorial videos on YouTube and they add all kinds of stuff making it super complicated, and I feel like adding so many things will make the soup extremely caloric dense.
>>77125961Here's what I do when I'm lazy>use instapot>throw in lentils>throw in frozen veggies>1 potato cubed>spices>some water depending on how runny you want it>pressure cook on high for 20 minutesdone
>>77125961This but swap the potato for lentils https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLa-u6GeyxY
>>77125961try greek fasolada but do not put as much olive oil as the recipe says. breddy good
>>77125967>>77125969Thanks!>>77125970Link?
>>77125981https://akispetretzikis.com/recipe/3098/fasoladathis is from a famous greek chef, just use the auto translate function in your browser. hope u enjoy anon
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>>77125992Thank you!
>>77125876tablespoon of peanut butter (the good shit, peanuts and salt only) and banana is one of my favorites
>>77124958the body works in mysterious ways.those faggots telling you it's "physically impossible" are retards who don't take into account that the basal metabolic rate isn't a fixed value but increases and decreases depending on how much people eat and other factors we don't know about.that out of the way, protein sparing modified fasting have been used by a bunch of anons and it worked for them.it seems the key point is reducing insulin to not lower the basal metabolic rate too much and you're eating meat and veggies so you should be good. eat low calories as long as it works for you. always do what works for you and find what works for you by experimenting.
>>77126030good lord I thought i was just enjoying a breadless Elvis sandwich, i had no idea it was such a cheat code
>>77126053>single tablespoon>not doing JOPBAD (jar of peanut butter a day)
>>77126030Is there any reason I shouldnt it only peanut butter?
>>77125031either start increasing the weight, reduce down time between sets or try drop sets. the lynchpin of lifting "to 12 reps" is the 12th rep must be the final rep you are able to do. if you can do a 13th rep, you'll need to increase the weight.as for cardio, try increasing the intensity. if you're running, pick up the pace. if you're on an incline, increase the angle. you get the point.
>>77125992>just use auto-translate>>See how to achieve absolute bean with moderate beans
>>77126070just noticed that top right there is a language toggle
>>77126065the original asker wanted to address a sweet tooth specifically, the salt in the pb boosts the fruit sugar taste to train their taste buds away from the need for pure sugar to get stimmed, and finally the fiber helps keep a sense of fullness that pure pb wont provide
>>77125171pic for reference. Most of the fat is in my legs and some in my belly which I have no idea how to get rid of>>77125177Addiction. I have tried so many times to replace it or slowly lower my intake, but at some point I just get too depressed drinking ''zero'' alternatives and just start buying regular again. If it wasn't for the 1lt of water I drink the days I workout, my kidneys would be so done by now. I also eat candies, chocolates and shit like that>>77125241>start counting ALL your caloriesAre those android apps that take pictures of your food to calc the calories any good?
>>77126185Zero sugar soda, it works.
>>77126185>food picture appsI wouldn't. I've had way better luck than some anons using AI to count calories but that's with measuring weights. Estimating weights from photos is still pretty janky and imprecise.
>>77126185There's really no need for the average person to count calories. It makes a person obsess over every single thing they are eating every day, the mental strain of that is harder than the diet itself. And any time there's a discrepancy in expected weight loss from your calorie counting, it just demotivates the person even more. The same principle applies to weighing yourself every single day, totally unnecessary and counter productive.
>>77126281This genuinely sounds like you're too mentally weak to manage basic daily tasks. Do you avoid looking at your bank account too, because money might stress you out?
>>77126281>There's really no need for the average person to count calories.Wrong, its something the average person needs to know. They dont need to know it to the last digit, but at least a rough estimate if they eat below, at maintenance or above maintenance once they are average weight. And its way more important for fat people to know this shit, because they will need to know it once they reached their goal
>>77126281great advice if you're looking to fail your diet and never lose weight
>>77126302I say that 8 weeks into my weight loss losing over 2 pounds on average every week. It's not hard to lose weight, it's not hard to track when you are eating too much and getting heavier with weekly weigh ins, it's not hard to compensate by just eating less. What the other poster said about massive fatasses with zero concept of portion sizes and calories is fair enough, but the average guy should know better. Knowing you ate 1800 calories instead of your 1600 daily goal or whatever is not going to help you, just like estimating you've only eaten 1300 calories so far so you have enough room for a dessert doesn't help either. Just eat less.
>>77126315Just eat less of what?People dont eat the same static meals everyday retardThats why we have calories, so you know that eating less bacon is much better than eating less broccoli
My first salad, estimate about 700-800 calories. The blended cottage cheese dressing was just alright, even though I blended it a ton it still has a bit of a grainy texture. I think I liked using greek yogurt better instead. Still it was tasty enough, hopefully this will help me feel better after a few days.
>>77126315>I lost 16 pounds!!Is this supposed to be impressive? Over half of that is probably the starting woosh water weight. Sounds like your diet is stalling because you're scared of tracking it.
SGLT2i are like a cheat code in combination with reta. Reta makes the liver release sugar and SGLT2i make the kidneys just piss it straight out. Need to eat sufficient high amounts of carbs tho to avoid ketoacidosis.
>>77126320>equating bacon to broccoli>>77126325>16lbs water weight after 2 monthsYou see, both of these posts are deranged. Normal people with a fitness mindset like the rest of this board don't think like this.
>>77126332You're wrong because you're terminally online but 99% of people are absolutely braindead and dont understand anything about anything outside of their wagie fieldsThey are literally too stupid to understand that the sauce they're putting on their salad has 500 calories
>>77126335>They are literally too stupid to understand that the sauce they're putting on their salad has 500 caloriesI don't know if too stupid is the right word but that's very true. For me it was just that I was taught as a child that condiments are free calories so I just never thought about it. I assume many people were never told that they could have significant calories in them and saw no reason to do further research.
>>77126350>>77126335This is just an extreme example, then theres all the fine differences Last week I was eating 15+ meals of 100 of different ingredients, and gained weightNow I decide to 'eat less' meaning what? I dont remember what I ate and how much, so I just approximate it? This is a recipe for absolute giga failure when you can just use a model that ACTUALLY worksCount calories
>>77126362>when you can just use a model that ACTUALLY worksIt doesn't work in the real world. What works are GLP1.
>>77126332You're on an ineffective diet that you're demanding is the only right way to lose weight despite the fact you're only two months in and already failing. Your mindset is a pathological fear of scales and numbers and accountability and has nothing to do with fitness.
>>77126374Yeah those work too, but people have lost weight before glp1s retardoboy
>>77126374>It doesn't work in the real worldIt works for people who, unlike you, have the mental fortitude to read a three digit number once a day and add a four digit number. I'm down over 40 pounds, what's your excuse fatty?
There is no greater compliment a deathfat can give a former fat than angrily insisting weight loss through controlled dieting is impossible. Guess I did the impossible lmao.
Just eat less lmao
>>77126387I'm down 150 freedom units :^)
Keto + CICO has worked best for me.
>>77124413Thought you would say I should fuck a tranny.Thanks, but I still have a long way to go, I still have a gut and tits. Post would have said that but I was put off by the degenerate.
>>77126281how do you survive the intense, obsessive mental strain of dressing yourself or doing taxes
>>77126375Projection and mental illness. You're really obsessed with the idea of me failing and being afraid of menial tasks beneath me.>>77126419Oh that's easy, I'm unemployed and just stay naked most days. That way I can avoid laundry for months.
>>77126431>mental illness>says the unemployed fatass who doesn't dress himselfok
>>77126431Besides being fat that’s a based lifestyle I aspire to
>>77125876If you’re budgeting 150-200 calories you can easily get a small chocolate bar, a bit of ice cream, a daily cookie etc as long as they aren’t the big ones that are 300+ calories. It won’t be filling obviously so if you want volume it’s a different story
Anyone have any experience with retatrutide? What's a good starting dose? I've got 24mg vials, and you're supposed to throw them away after 28 days, but I don't want to jump right in to 8mg/week.
>>77126331>SGLT2i are like a cheat code yep you will literally pee sugar, calories out without having to burn themtoo bad they are expensive and I don't think doctors prescribe them willy nilly
I've been eating one hotdog as a meal from a restaurant after working out for the past few days. I think I've made this diet enjoyable now. I eat a light breakfast of yogurt or a smoothie. Then some cashews. Then a hotdog which is like 500-700 calories if it has chili and cheese, for my final meal. I toppings like peppers and onions are zero calories so the only issue is the bread but Im not keto. Thoughts?
>>77126593I've been coasting and losing weight at 1500 calories per day injecting 1mg per week
>>77126661>>77126607Can you drug addicts fuck off to some other thread?
>>77126662Make meWas just about to pin some Reta too
>>77126662/fit/ has always been a fraud board. Everyone is juicing on something, nattycopers can't handle the truth.
Can't remember the last time my shits haven't been either mashed potatoes or rabbit pellets
>>77124431>>77124425>>77124424>>77124451today, i managed to eat only 600 calories so far.i'm not hungry.idk what happened that caused this change but i'm glad. maybe because i overate yesterday. i need to control myself...
After two months of working out, I realize, I don't actually like pushing weights, but I love the feeling of my muscles feeling tight within my skin and the feeling of my muscles being sore while in bed. Can't get enough of that shit.
>>77126410sticking to keto is very hard
Been eating healthy since start of January, very few carbs, cooking at home. went out for dinner at a restaurant tonight and immediately started shitting my guts out. Is this because my body has adapted and isn't used to restaurant food or do I have food poisoning?
I never want to hate eggs like I did while doing ketoEggs are too delicious to hate
>>77126919It's hard if you do it wrong
>>77126968Pasta wants to enter my body, I can't help it.
>>77126658whatever works for you is good
>>77126968how to do it right?
>>77126919Maybe 8 months isn’t that long but I’ve never felt the urge to eat sugar or bread since I started . If anything I have more trouble staying under my TDEE because I can eat two lbs of steaks or ground beef like it’s nothing.
>>77126658Are you hitting your protein? Yogurt and cashews seem good, but hotdogs, I don't think they have that much protein in them.
>>77125047>I feel like I haveBuy a scale and weigh yourself rather than going on feelings. Then you can know, for a fact, if youre losing weight or not and can adjust your approach accordingly.Bonus points if you also count your calories at the same time so you'll know exactly where you went right and wrong.
>>77126185>Most of the fat is in my legs and some in my belly which I have no idea how to get rid ofLeg fat followed by lower ab fat is the last to go for men, you just gotta lose more weight simple as.
Ugh, I'm so fat.The scale has ratcheted right up to 110, and doesn't seem to want to go down.
Are some fat guys just naturally handsome and it was hidden beneath their fat?I've seen some guys I know start off pretty heavy (like 360+) and start looking handsome by the time they get to 300.
i went from 385lbs to 250lbs. regained 20 after i got laid off my job. every time i push down my weight i end up gorging absurd amounts of food. i think a stable job was the only thing holding my diet together.
>weight plateaued for weeks>also havent shat for ~3 to 4 daysam scared, im eating around 25 grams of fiber (primarily soluble from lentils, and vegs) but nothing's happening, i dont even feel the urge or sensation needed to shit, is it because im doing tmadI hope there isnt a behemoth within my gut thats gonna tear my ass apart when i finally shit, but id also like to finally lose a couple hundred grams as well and break the plateau, fuark
>>771271254got to mention its tmad on 1700 kcals, im a 174 bloke but surely 1700 isnt low enough for me to not shit at least thrice a week
>>77127106Its actually completely true. You just can't tell how good looking people are under that fatGo to /fph/ and half the time theres someone saying "such a shame so snd so is fat, they'd look great otherwise"
>>77127147I’ve lost 75 pounds and am finally below 350 for the first time in a decade.I’m still huge but it has been genuinely surprising to me that women in public have started complimenting me. I’ve been told I have nice hair, they like my jacket, a cute smile, and pretty eyes in the last week.Never heard anything like that from someone not named Mom in years.
>>77127175that's awesome, I'm jelly. I gotta get out more. maybe I'll get some miresat least my mom and my sister say I'm looking good
>>77126801"Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weights"
Tren hard. Eat clen. Anavar give up.
>>77125901No, you eat a large meal. You use the fat on your body to make up for the food you didn’t eat.
>>77127302But food is the only thing that makes life worth living.
>>7712712525g/day is better than the average fat idiot out there but still a lot less than the recommended 38g/day for men
>>77127320Ngmi
>>77127288I smile when it gets tough, because I know the harder I push, the more sore my muscles will be.
>Be 125kg at 6ft, start of 2025>get down to 105kg in in about 4 months>Coast the rest of the year, stop putting effort in>get back up to 110kg in 12 months>Jump to today>putting effort in, tracking diet, easing back in to gym>Down 2kg in 2 weeksI'm doing it this time, time to get under 100kg. So mad I stopped the first time, I've be at my goal weight by now if I didn't.
>>77127491Fuckin get it bro, you got this easy
If I finally get under 100kg, is it worth making a life update post on Facebook? I'm hoping the qt I dated for a week might consider taking me back.
>>77127597>>77127597>>77127597>>77127597
>>77126323Looks delicious, but you're doing salads wrong if its 800 calories and "estimating", unless that's your entire meal.
>>77127125I would get a laxative before it becomes another day that you haven't gotten relief. The longer you're constipated, the harder it is to finally push it out because one of the purposes of your intestines is to absorb water and form a coherent and solid mass, so it gets drier and harder..
>>77125734I would recommend Chicken or beef bone broth, ground beef just cooked in a frying pan by itself (or with a bit of olive oil), leafy green vegetables like sprouts, lettuce, etc will be fine as well. Also don't eat 2000 cals straight away but step up, probably 1000 first day spread out across a few meals over several hours (gives your body time to clearly reject the food if you eat something you shouldn't), 2000 second day, then third day 2000 cals + try introduce some other non keto foods, then if that's fine your body will probably be ok with whatever.I did a 30 day water fast and had ground beef + beef bone broth as above (although only ~450cal) on first refeed day and my stomach was fine. Sprouts/leafy greens on third or so but I think would have been fine first day as well, but naturally I was cautious so only had keto food initially.