Savior of the white race edition>Where do I start?old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index>>77165442
someone give me source for gear in china please
>>77177255I love high volume
Russoids aren’t white you eastern slavic combloc cucks.They are the dbol of anabolics.
>>77177342CopeSlavs are the true master raceThey defeated the master race
>>77177344Zerg rushing your enemy and sacrificing tens of millions of prime fighting age men doesn't make you the master race. Germans invented jet engines and got us to the moon. Slavs destroyed their own civilization with gommunism
>>77177310How high are we talking?
>>77177688Just normal high, not Nubret high.I'd say I'm always trying to reach 20 sets/week per muscle group.
>>77177258thisi remember years ago there weres threads on /fit/ how to buy cheap gear from china and make it yourselfi need this shit because im little country in east europ,cops in last year close 90% of steroid businesfucking shithole
>>77177740that would be nice. i was lucky enough to grab some raws, but i didn't get much. can last a few years. brewing at home is super easy though. am grateful for the old forums that went through all that stuff
>>77177255where do you guys get clomid?how much does it cost?
Why do ppl take hgh or peptides on top of trt? Is test enough to cruise if you’re just an average joe? Also does it help with burning fat in absence of a good diet?
>>77177855if you gonna pin test then why not because they are great
>>77177855If you have low t it will help. Otherwise no, test doesn't make up for a bad diet.
>>77177873What? Hgh or peptides or both? Don’t wanna fuck up my hormones too much
>>77177878>don't wanna fuck up my hormones too muchWhy everyone is so gay and dumb nowadays?
Almost done with my 1st cycle and I'm seriously considering trooning out
>>77177855TRT will just get your T levels up, it won’t turn you into a beefed up monster roider. Gh will, and certain peptides will lean you down help your protein synthesis joint health recovery etc. Different cogs in a big machine but you design the machine; do you want to have huge muscles and be bodybuilder body fat? Or do you want to be a powershitter beef fat nigga?
Going on trt soon. What drugs/supplements should I take? I already have:minoxidilFinasterideZincNACFish OilCialis
>>77177892Microplastics and birth control in the water supply really might be a thing
>>77177919This but yuge blasts instead, I wanna be freaky big What's the recommendation for blast vs cruise time? 1:1 or 1:2?
>>77177948time on = time off
>>77177948yeah its usually 1:1 so 20wks on 20wks off. OR you can perma blast if you have no reason to live past 40 (me).
>>77177855>Don’t wanna fuck up my hormones too muchif you are pinning test, i have bad news for you and you should not be using gear
One month pinning 500mg Test E per week. Is this test/E2 levels good or should I use dbol to raise E2 levels?
Rash on first day of low dose finasteride. Will it go away? Should I stop?
>>77178056Never heard of Finasteride causing a rash before, from anyone.
>>77178052No it's perfect
>>77178056just shave your head dont take that poision
>>77178178niggas doing strength workouts instead of intensity/volume
>>77177987Based, what do you run for blasts(I don't care if I die)
>>77178457750mg Test400mg Tren50mg Anavar12.5mg Aromasin twice a week
>>77178474Why var on top of all that?
>>77178518cus i can
>>77178474Do you need caber with that tren
>>77178474ooh baby looks good. i wanna try low t high'ish tren. Maybe 160 test 700 tren and 50 var with 8iu hgh. maybe dbol along the way
>>77178553i have never needed caber idk why?
>>77177930Just get a wig
>>77178614and implant tits
Thoughts on taking enclomiphene citrate?
>>77178474>no hcgGenuinely asking why aren't most of you running hcg to preserve your balls? Or is it already fucked for you and whatever happens happens whenever you want to conceive?
>>77178664I don't have a girlfriend or wife or desire children I do not give a fuck about family.
Is it really bad to pin on your testicles?
>>77178659it's way gayer than sucking a dick
>>77178667ofc im talking to a guy blasting gear so I already kind of know the answer but have you ever considered what the future you in 5 or even just 10 years might want and if that might include children? if the stopping force is sourcing it's like 100$ for a kit man it's really not that hard to find this shit and pretty much every us warehouse is always full of this stuff
>>77178682I am 35, I am ugly, and not in a "oh I am fat and my looksmaxx isnt good". I have an odd shaped skull, my hair is greasy when I grow it out, I have to wear glasses because contacts fuck with my eyes, I am genuinely ugly and it made me resent women. I don't care if I settle with a 1/10 to marry and have kids with I will not put my children through a life like mine was.
Impotent baldoids general
>>77178659Taking it right now.
>>77178659You're never going to get a real answer because gear heads will always always default to telling you to inject T (and if you're old enough they are right). Realistically you shouldn't expect much from an enclomiphene "cycle", but you could bulk up a little more than naturally with it by stacking some cjc-1295+ipa and some mk677 on top. Probably the most zoomer stack you can run. You probably should get a full hormones panel before doing any of this too. >>77178699I understand, but then in that case why aren't we spamming hgh anon? It's also super cheap like 1$/iu might as well go all in and bet on acromegaly to turn you into a sick looking beast.
Want to fraud but I'm afraid acne, gyno and hair loss.
>>77178714>hair loss.You don't need it
>>77178718I don't need big muscles either
>>77178699If it makes you feel any better, I'm fairly handsome and my life is absolutely atrocious.
>>77178720
>>77178712I want to get into gh but I have certain life events going on right now I genuinely can't commit to it yet. I will 100% do it though in maybe 2 months.>>77178724I got reverse crab in a bucket where I get pulled down by those around me and because they are family I can't say no without losing something else in return. I have no easy way out so I am killing my little social life to just give up in totality.
>>77178682You don't have to take hcg the entire time to restart, lots just do it a few weeks before pct or even the first couple weeks of pctIt MIGHT be easier, surestudies of long term male contraception with testosterone all successfully restarted normal production even in the 50+ crowd, although it did take longerThe shutdown forever thing is overblown, potentially by gearheads themselves looking to get trt/cruise doses legallyDudes get their bitch pregnant mid-blast a nontrival amount of times too
huh apparently there's this contraption that troons used to pin lets you put the syringe in it and you press a button and it pushes the needle into the skin at 90 degrees automatically lol
>>77178780It's true that I made it sound like he would be shutdown forever and it would be over when it's not. I was mostly saying this because it seems like such an easy step to take to keep quality sperm despite being a gearhead.
>>77178659I like it but it's definitely a gateway drug. You'll want more results once the beginner gains wear off. 2x or 3x your baseline T basically give you beginner gains all over again and basically after 6-12 months your progress will slow down again. You also won't gain a ton of muscle overnight but you will gain some for sure and it will be noticeable to you. For example, my forearms got noticeably bigger (but they're still small).IMO enclomiphene is still natty. Your test levels will be at best high end of the natty range or maybe slightly above natty if you're lucky. Your free test will be above natty but just barely. It's not magic and you will still need to workout and diet right to see optimal gains. Also if you don't eat or sleep you don't produce as much T even on enclomiphene. TRT is the only way around this.>>77178781They make shit like this for peptides and stuff too, along with the ultra lazy fatass fatties with their ozempic pens because they're literally too fat, lazy and retarded to consistently use a syringe. Even those are too much for some lardasses so they've gone and made oral versions.
>>77177255what the fuck do I do now that the chink vendors got bogged?all I have is hcg and dbol tabs and actually one (1) vial of DHB that I'm thinking of cracking open.I'm seeing vials of test that was $12 before being sold by American domestics for $40 is this hell?
>>77178997I literally don't know. I've got a year left of shit but I'm gonna get financially raped if I stay on.
>>77178997>>77179051back to reality. the good times have rolled on, plus a little extra craziness with better /faster/more frequent detection methods on imports, high price of fuels, and crackdowns on skeevy manufacturers who legitimatelu produce pharmaceuticals but do a little extra on the side
>>77178781Just use insulin injection pens with replaceable vials. Humapen ergo ii. Buy the vials and fill them with replaceable vials. You can do oil IM and SUBQ ez pz
>>77179423Sorry for typing retarded. Tired
>>77177925I’d rather be bigger and leaner but idk how achievable that is without only eating chicken and rice
>two weeks on blast>250 test>200 NPP>1mg MGF-pegHoly shit, I wasn’t expecting such “fullness” already. Feeling great, I have a doctor appointment for a new doctor and I’m getting a physical/bloodwork done today.Obviously this is all glycogen along with a good pump from my chest/pullup and lats session but god DAMN it’s like night and day from the photo I posted last thread that was from before my first pin.
>>77179565Nigga get on some blood pressure medicine otherwise mirin
>>77179576Thats immediately after preworkout/lifting and that light is definitely red heavy, like I said I have a doctor appointment today so we will see what the BP is. Thanks doe.
can in pin test into my stomach with insulin syringes?
>>77179630only a little bit when cruising/TRTnot for blasts iirc
>>77179630It doesnt matter because you'll never put in the work. If you really wanted it, you'd already be lifting and not worried about some arbitrary timeline. If someone does tell you a timeframe you find acceptable, you'll go the gym then quit in a few months when you see no progress and then go back to making "how to achieve" threads with a pic of Gooky the anime character waiting for someone to "redpill" you on how to get jacked without doing anything. loser
>>77179051>>77179163I pulled the trigger, 50mg DHB last night, doing 100mg/week, 25mg dbol/day, hcg still keeping my balls alive. This may have crossed the line from drug use to drug abuse but fuck it I need to put on mass. The new year was not kind to mewhen I found out about cheap chinese vendors I wondered how long they would be there for me. I thought it would be a bit longer than this. all things must pass. We will find a way bros
>>77180326nice! godspeed, anon. low prices will come back again. china'a pharma scene is incomparable. either everything, including non-aas related, will go up in price, or aas prices will come back down. maybe not as low as they were due to increased import scrutiny, underlying shipping costs, or china pushing for stricter rules in pharma manufacturing, but production will pick up again. worst case it takes years though for someone to fill the need
right! back at it again. let's see how long i can manage 160mg test + 600mg tren before i lose my shit
fuck boys I finally started to get body acne. any tricks other than just normal skincare shit?
>>77180571Depending how bad, estrogen might be in play if you aren’t on AI and dosage of stack. You should try any topical scrubs you have used before that worked before trying to get a derm script for anything like Retinoin or whatever it’s called, then if even that doesn’t work Accutane might. Besides topicals maybe shower twice a day and change your sheets every 3 days or so. It is a bad rabbit hole to ignore so just get started ASAP on scrubs to try and fix before it gets baaad.
Stop taking steroids
>>77180646Yeah 250 test, no other high E sides. I'll stay on top of it and maybe do a blood test. It's crazy I went from 200 up to 250 and these fuckers popped up like crazy.
>>77180655How long were you 200mg before bumping to 250mg? Same thing happened to me around 450mg though, because I jumped too much too soon.
>>77180675started my cut at like Jan 1, and bumped up like 2 weeks ago. So 3 months? Did it end up leveling out for you?
>>77180682Sort of, it's still LESS than it was say 2 months ago, but I kept blasting without changing dosages and I still am uncomfortable wearing cut offs even though Spring is here. A lot of this depends on outside factors though like me being gross and sleeping without showering, not using scrubs for a while, and eating like shit, plus other compounds in my stack (Tren/Dbol/Weed). I ran accutane for a month before stopping which I might try to start again before blasting in summer.
>>77180652>Stop driving that Ferrari
>>77177740>>77177258Go to mesorx
>>77177878>>77177855Stfu
>>77180687fuck it, clear up the skin when you're huge
>>77180724I just am gonna keep doing my normal topicals before I delve into more accutane, it’s very pricey and 150 25mg pills go quick when I need 75mg
>>77180761Indian pharmacy. You can get an entire cycle’s worth (120 mg/kg cumulative dosage) for like $200. Also, you can go high dose if you want but 20-40 mg is really the way to go. The only downside is that it’lll take you longer to hit the cumulative dose but you can avoid pretty much all sides this way.
>>77180761And before you claim indian pharma stuff is all fake, you’ll absolutely know immediately because this shit dries you out completely even on only 20 mg.
>>77180687>sleeping without showeringduhyou'd wake up with bedhead otherwise
>>77180823>>77180828I did that before for other substances but is it still as annoying to do nowadays? I mean, harder than buying gear with btc because I guess I just don’t know where to get from Indian pharms besides DNM’s which I don’t want to do tails usb pgp hassle anymore. Might look more into it soon before Summer.
>>77180500 Based centered answer
Wanting to do my first cycle, been using TRT of 200mg weekly for a few years now, Any point cycling on top of a consistent TRT dose, or should I just drop the 200mg and cycle higher? Also, what are some relatively 'safer' options for juicing? I've heard VAR isn't too heavy if not abused.
>>77180571change your bedsheets niggerAlso clean yourself with like 95% water in the shower and use soap sparingly.Use pure castille soap, or just plain saponified tallow soap.
>>77179565wow, juicing for this huh? bad genetics i guess.
>>77180949>I've heard VAR isn't too heavyVar is weak so people assume it's safer. It's still not good for your bloods.
>>77180949bump it up to 500 t a week and throw in a DHT (mast/primo/eq).HCG is good for keeping ball size + orgasm healthy.Maybe even throw in some BPC157 to help with recovery and reduce complications from tendonitis.
>>77181360>eqI meant winny my bad
>>77180893i've used clear sky pharmacy biz in the past with success. they're just kinda expensive
>>77180698Kys fag
>>77179630yes. its the best way but you are going to want slightly bigger than a typical insulin needle. I cant remember what guage I use but yeah. The insulin needle will be a bit too slow
>>77180949throw 100 deca on top of your 200 test and that should get you quite a bit of gains and a very tiny liklihood of getting any sides at all outside of a little water retention. IMO its a lot better than anavar because you pretty much keep all your gains when you quit besides a little "fullness/glycogen" losses. Whereas anavar I feel like is something best taken to just look as SHREDDED as possible for the summer pool season or whatever and when you stop using it you kind of go back to normal more or less.
>>77181360HCG keeps your balls from shrinking which is great but it also keeps your body stocked up with pregnenolone, DHEA and their metabolites so that you don't have any hormonal deficiencies. I think most long term TRT users develop these deficiencies when the balls shrivel up. At this point I am very convinced that giving anyone TRT without HCG is being a shitty irresponsible doctor straight up, it should just be standard operating procedure to treat low T with test+hcg.
I need some testimonials about sub q vs IM injection for testosteroneunc says that IM is better but internet says sub q is just as goodmost of the sub q shit on the internet is talking trt 200mg/week doses but I want to know the difference sub q vs IM while doing 200mg/EoDlow bodyfat and im a bit concerned about having bubbles on my hip plus there is a big debate about the extra aromatizationif you have tried both and give a real testimonial I will transmit good feelings into your mind through the astral plane
>>77181501I gave up on subcu because I normally have lowish body fat and run out of places. If you're doing frequent injections do subcu if not do IM. I get allergy shots every other week and they do IM in the same spots and it's fine.
>>77181496I used HCG by itself for like 6 months and it was awesome, felt like I was 18 again (physically). I don't think TRT should even be a thing for people who have low T or whatever, just give them HCG. Obviously for guys who want to get big, that's a different story, but for guys who just want regular healthy T levels just give them HCG. Those precursor hormones that you lose when injecting T alone definitely play roles in the body imo.
>>77181496Is hcg safe to take long term?
i have had nearly medically significant low test every time i have gotten test checked throughout my life, however i have not checked in a bout a decade and now im 31 and i feel like ive probably crossed the threshold for medically significant finally. however, i dont have any insurance. is it a good idea to try one of these probably overpriced to shit random trt 'services' that dont require insurance and they mail you a blood tester thing and then you mail it back to them? there seems to be so many of these services and they never reveal the price until youve already commited to buying the blood test. alternatively you can buy straight up test online some places which is sort of a black market thing and you could get arrested but most likely not? i want to start with a TRT sort of dose and then later on ill consider going supra physiological. i read the reddit wiki a year ago or so, maybe ill read it again... or maybe, i should just prioritze trying to get health insurance so i can get cheap TRT covered by insurance. What is the play here??
>>77181644You aren't getting arrested unless you are distributing or selling to locals. Personal amounts aren't really give a shit about, the cops probably have their own. If you have money (which I assume you don't because you don't have insurance and are crying about low T) just buy it yourself or go to a good review'd TRT clinic.
>>77181569no doubt bro, the whole "backfilling" hormones thing is so real and imo it really contributes to that "damn I feel good" sensation that you want from TRT>>77181572I believe it is. Desensitization has always been a boogey man but at this point there are so many fags who have taken 500 a week for years and years. Some anons have made pretty convincing arguments that desensitization only occurs at monster doses but yeah if you come to any conclusions on it post them.
yep bros. I crashed my estrogen. I was getting hot flashes like a bitch. Took me about 3 weeks to get back to normal. I was taking .25 mg twice a week anastrozole. I am thinking about going to .25 mg once a week but I am definitely scared of doing that shit again. I had to make up excuses for not wanting to fuck my girlfriend and I was just finger banging her like a dyke.
>>77181069>roiding for this*yawn*Get some new material. I’m two weeks into my first ever cycle. Perhaps you should show us what your body looks like since you feel you’re in a position to denigrate other people’s bodies :)No body posted, no opinion worth listening to. Simple as. Picrel is what I imagine every “>roiding for this” poster looks like and I’ve yet to be proven wrong
>>77181699welcome back from the gates of hell friendanastrozole is what crashed me too back in 2024took adex prior to switching and that never gave me serious issues other than one bout of insomnia for 2-3 days which is the only reason why I switched to anastrozole.mine was 2 weeks of absolute living death and 3 weeks of feeling like shit followed by several weeks of "feeling off" with a total of 3 months before getting back to where I was.ever since then I take half an adex once a week and only during blast.those first 2 weeks were the worse I have ever felt and I have been through some rough shit.>t bnc ogre
>>77181501I would get bumps at anything over .25 ml and sometimes at that tooSubq is for trt level amounts exclusively but it's easy and much less of a chance of getting PIP which is why it's used at all outside of bac water based peptides
>>77181779Did you ever try anything extreme like clomid (for the zuclomiphene), hcg or pinning E2 like a troon? Seems like those are the only quick ways to bounce back
>>77181881you don't have to pin e2 its just a pill. desu I think every roider should have a bottle of emergency estrogen pills for this reason but nobody does that we just suffer lol
>>77181881I didn't try anything because I felt terrified of possibly making it worse. cold turkey on all gear related shit. "borrowed" a bottle of some low dose benzos from someone just to sleep for a couple hours a night.I swore I would stay natty and never touch gear ever again but wouldn't ya know it here I am.
>>77181948So let me get this straight.. you crashed your e2. While your HPTA is shut down and you’re totally reliant on exogenous testosterone, you stop putting testosterone (the hormone that converts to estrogen, which was what you needed) into your system instead of blasting a bunch of it and waiting out the half life elimination period of the aromatase inhibitor?You’re somehow too retarded to use steroids. Congrats.
>>77181644if you're in the us, you can self direct blood tests. use hello good labs, discounted labs, or there are other places that give huge discounts. test m/a or whatever it is costs like $5, plus a $12 draw fee (one fee per order i think). goes through quest diagnostics
>>77181881>>77181889>>77181948Estrogen gel is the best solution for this and fairly easy to get because of trannies.
I have never been low E2 because I use Dbol excessively.
should i be using coq10 supps?
>>77181948Bro... suffermaxxing by stopping the test is insane. When I was trying out a pussy TRT cycle on enclomiphene and test cream and shut my balls down I felt like nothing mattered a few hours after stopping the test cream. It was fucking awful just temporarily crashing my test. You crashed test and estrogen at the same time and let that shit go on for weeks?
>>77182046based dbol enjoyer
>>77181948Getting spooked, crashing all your shit, and then taking benzos is wild
>>77181953yes I am retarded but that was my 3rd cycle so I was extra retarded then>>77182064>>77182109you have to understand that I went from never having any debilitating health problems in my life to almost overnight getting chest pains, heart palpitations, severe insomnia, suicidal ideation, skitzo level paranoia and my stomach feeling like it was about to jump through my esophagus and out of my body. I didn't even realize what the cause was at first but got bloodwork 4 days in and it showed nuked e2. Again I am certified retarded and sometimes when retards panic they just go full ostrich and stick their head in the sand. In retrospect I should of kept using test and should of threw in HCG EoD but I didn't know any better.
>>77182139>chest pains, heart palpitations, severe insomnia, suicidal ideation, skitzo level paranoia and my stomach feeling like it was about to jump through my esophagusI've crashed my e2 with aromasin and the only side effect I got was a flat depressed feeling, also dry joints. I read all this shit about how dudes put a barrel in their mouth and cry. It's just hard to believe.
>>77182153Imagine needing to crash e2 to feel all of those Amateurs i fucking tell yaDoubling my next blast just cuz
>>77181699>>77181779huh I've been taking 0.5 mg anastrozole daily for a week and feel fine maybe a little colder my pills must be bunk
>>77182243lol you better hope it is bunk bro. If not you have zero aromatase enzyme in your body and you are about to feel menopause.
Will this help me leave humanity behind?
When's the last time you slept 7-9 hours without waking up to pee in the middle of the night?
>>77182332This is a good beginner cycle we should put it in the /fraud/ op
>>77182335when I was 14
>>77182153Only bad thing Aromasin did to me was make my armpits and neck red dry and irritated
>>77181496>>77181569HCGbros tell me a good protocol for my balls. They reduced a bit. 1x500mg hcg week?
>>77181501It's one of those things that you got to try by yourself. Both sides are correct. SubQ is better or the same BUT it's not for everyone desu
>>77181699>>77181779Just take DianabolTNEEstradiol itselfI don't want to be offensive but why do you guys are doing something you clearly don't know anything about it. Worst, are incapable of just normal regular online research.
Has anyone through hike or overnight hike while on? Think I can tick several boxes at once. Should I just take low dose tren for that to minimise deficit loss? For nutrition can you just get away with protein powder and water, and maybe some cup indomie/migoreng and a mars bar etc? Or peanut butter? Is this case where it's better to bring a few hundred grams of micellar casein instead?
How retarded is it to inject 30 mg test prop subq ed as trt to minimize aromatization and hormone fluctuation?
>>77183011SubQ sucks ass but prop is based
>>77182644Minimum 250 IU EOD but probably 500 IU EOD.
>>77183011Prop is not convenient for subq. Solvents and the ester makes it painful for some people. But you should try by yourself, maybe it doesn't happen to you
>>77183113Thanks, I'll look into it
>>77182644350iu twice a week is popular to keep the boys plump. 3000iu ed for 18 months is a clinical severe hypogonadal hcg monotherapy treatment plan. point being, dont stress it. just take it
>>77182658you are a retarded faggot its very easy to crash your estrogen because the drugs are for WOMEN and over dosed as fuck for men to be using. You would understand this if you were actually smart and not a retarded faggot who doesn't know shit. Also nobody is keeping estadiol or dbol on hand like that, even though it probably should be standard procedure.
>>77183019what? subq is amazing and just straight up superior to IM in every single way other than capacity but since he is injecting every day that doesn't matter
>>77183011you want to use a long esther for minimal hormone fluctuation. cypionate is what everyone uses. But yeah injecting prop every single day should be pretty stable too if you can stick to that
>>77182801i.... did you have a stroke, or did i? i did not follow what you're asking there at all. 200mg tren is probably fine if you're looking for a slow recomp. 300 is a popular "high" dose. you can easily run higher, but chances are the sides will push you off tren around 10 weeks. what are you trying to accomplish with your nutrition question? is this.... you're going on a hike overnight, and wondering what food you should bring with you? you're gonna need carbs on a 30 mile hike. there's these god awful but lightweight + high carb packs of goop you can get from REI or anywhere online. most the backpacking bars are fine too if you want something more substantial. bring plenty of water, and some of those electrolyte water booster things, since you'll sweat a lot and you'll need the salt. pack some mre's or something freeze dried you can reconstitute with a bit of water. calorie density to weight is key. you don't want to be lugging around 10lbs of food, plus shelter, clothing, sleeping bag, etc. keep your bag total weight under 50 freedom units. more weight is gonna drag you down on a long hike, and you'll end up with blisters and shit where your bag rubs on your shoulders/back. and don't forget mole skin for your feet! have fun for me
>>77183148What a insufferable and dumb post. Don't talk to me ever again, not wasting my time
>>77183148I have leftover dbol on hand. I have a lot of random shit I don’t take as a “just in case”, and that goes for everything not just gear.
>>77182801You don’t change anything from a normal long hike. Maybe more water or food but I hope this isn’t your first attempt at a hike.
>>77183146Thanks, what's the problem with hcg? High e2?
>>77183193get wrecked dumbass bitch
>>77183326I think in some people it raises their estrogen too much and they start getting high e2 sides. I'm not sure if this is just because their dose is too high or whether it's just a genetic thing.
>>77183442Can't you just modulate that with an AI? All it's doing is stimulating LH like enclomiphene does without the SERM aspect to my understanding. I don't see why the E2 is necessary to deal with
>>77183454my understanding is that aromatase enzyme is orders of magnitude more concetrated in the balls than anywhere else. Some people kind of inject the shit and then get a huge surge of estrogen. But yeah I never had this problem. If anything I think it makes using an AI safer, you are less likely to accidentally crash yourself.
>>77183404>crashed e2>can't even think about split the AI cap>no dbol>no tne>no ex estradiol>Somalian IQ>calling others dumbLmao
>>77183477Yes I am calling you dumb because you are obviously and objectively fucking stupid.
>>77183404Is everyone 16 here?
>>77183454Just lowering the dose would be sufficient in most cases, but hcg actually upregulates aromatase so you get more T to E conversion.
to the lonely gay men who are reading this if I could give you my big hard pp through the internet I would let you have it as much as you want and also cuddle you to sleep and kiss your forehead goodnight
>>77183702same but passing tranniespre opfeminine penises only
>>77183232>>77183157I mean, I want to optimise to use it as an opportunity to get the most out of it while on. And everything would be UL, I'd bring water and dried food, most places can fill up water in a bottle along the way, and have a gas hiking stove (brs3000 etc). I suppose another question is should I go on the hike before or after I jump back on test + whatever etc?
How to not age like cheese when frauding?
will finasteride help with gear induced boy acne?
>>77183838This sounds extremely autisticDo you never do anything else with your life while on cycle?Its just an overnight hike, why are you treating it as a month-long expedition to the Everest?
I just got my first peptide (reta) and I gotta reconstitute it tonight My hands are shaking with the vial like I'm a nubile virgin; ready for the needle to penetrate my body with the moist goodness inside.
>>77181968can i really get tests for this cheap repeatedly?? dont you guys like check your blood every two weeks or something like that? it just sounds expensive!! man you guys are so helpful
>>77184001MY BLOOD IS FOR ME AND ME ONLY
>>77181496>>77182644where can I get hcg? ive been on 150mg/week trt for the past 4 months now and thinking about stopping and just doing hcg. i dont really feel any different in terms of energy or libido which was the main reason i started trt. definitely did gain muscle though
Rate my advanced stack i used to win my state amateur npc last year. 6'2 235 17% BF to 215 sub 10% onstage. Been cycling since 2014, since Fatlifts was here on fraud for you old fags. Competed many times but this time wanted to go all out and try and win. 16 weeksWeekly-900mg EQ800mg Primo, 600mg test prop200mg tren ace150mg npp 12.5-25mg aromasinDailyWeeks 1-8 anadrol 50mg, 5iu ghWeeks 8-16 Winstrol 30mg, Proviron 50mg, 2iu ghCONTEST WeeK 16-20 150mg test prop/weekWeek 20-22 offPCT after week 22Week 1-4 Hcg and Hmg high dose 3x per week. Weeks 4-8 enclomiphene 50mg/day, nolvadex 40mg/day Weeks 8-12 enclomiphene 25mg/dayIm about 220-225 now, not shredded but stayed fairly lean. Strength is down probably 25% compared to peak cycle, gained probably net 5lbs of muscle and lost 5-10 lbs of fat and water compared to before I began the cycle. Libido was bad for the first month coming off, still not 100%. Seem to be able to get an erection fine while laying on my back, but it goes away if I stand up-blood flow related? Any tips appreciated
>>77184075I have no idea man. Not a fucking clue. Here in /fraud/, in case you haven’t noticed, we have zero clue as to how the aromatase enzyme works. We get mad at other people for stating the obvious. We don’t know anything. Let me reiterate: nobody here can help you with your inquiry.. crash your e2 and report back for some more riveting discussion.
>>77183011Injecting every day gets very very old quick. Even if you preload syringes for the week it's a pain in the ass. My trt is 100mg once a week pinning my shoulder with a 29g slin pin dgaf
>>77177255>Savior of the white race edition>over a million yts ded in Pussia-Ukie warSurely holotrannies Jewish Nazis finally surrender when Iran-Israel use up 2 many missile interceptors? Right vatnig brahs?>>77184075Lel keep in mind you're only a few pounds heavier than a guy who only roids with ecdysterone, despite running the full boomer ACK stack. Maybe look for some newer molecules, kek.
Can someone redpill me on EQ? Why is it different from other gear?
>>77183887Let me rephrase it, would you jump on earlier if you were going to start hiking more often, and if so would it look any different if take overnight/multiday hiking into account, basically I just want to increase my bang for my buck
>>77184132Post body instead of PubMed studies and AI slop for once
>>77183838oh! yeah, just hop on. dont overthink the timing. if you use test c/e, you can pin the morning you leave and be fine for the week. more is lost with indecision than the wrong decision>>77184001yup! no sale. no one time offer on signup. no gimmick. discounted labs does do 20% off deals a few times a year though. they're cheaper than hello good labs on only a few things though, even with that 20% off. all these places operate by guaranteeing quest a shit ton of money to receive steep discounts on labs, then they mark up those discounted prices and resell hoping to get enough volume to make money on their contract with quest. you can self direct too -- no doc referral or prescription necessary. dont even need to use insurance
>>77184075How didn't 900eq 800primo and an AI on top nuke your e2 into the dirt?
>>77183868body*
>>77184203awesome, awesome, maybe ill get to join this community after all!
what's a nice accutane dosage to nuke my sebaceous glands into oblivion and never having to worry about acne again?
>>77184075If I took 50mg of enclo daily I'd be blind by the end of the week lol. That shit destroys my eyes.
>>77184203okay, im on discounted labs, do i just need to book a 'Testosterone, Free (Equilibrium Dialysis) and Total, MS', or should i get others, i want to see my test levels obviously they should be pretty low right now, but im assuming getting several bio markers tested before you try TRT dose of test is a good idea? ive started re-reading the reddit, ill chew through it bit by bit over the next week since im very busy. just trying to get the ball rolling here.
>>77184075>>77184830Doses above 25mg don't boost LH by more anyways. You were probably taking clomid though, that's not an enclo side effect.
>>77183864Well first off we have to try to seperate some things. Pic related is what a 30 year old "man" with an androgen insensitivity disorder looks like. We can all agree he looks young as shit but he is not sexually attractive to women at all. So in some measure, just being more masculine and sexually dimorphic is interpreted as "older" but it is also interpreted as more sexually desirable. Then on the other hand we have fags who blast roids and age their face in a bad way and start looking like orcs. We have to accept looking older to the extent that its also making us more attractive, while aggressively trying to fight the aspect of steroids that makes you look less attractive. In my humble opinion, steroids only really start to make you age in a BAD way when you allow yourself to experience >super high blood pressure>super thick/viscous blood which micro circulates poorly in the skin>fucked up or broken sleep patterns>crashed estrogen levels>DHT excess leading to oily skin and acne>collapse of the facial structure via lipolysis. This happens with age but gets accellerated especially when you are on gear and get to sub 10% bodyfat. Your facial fat has to go and nasoliabial folds almost always present after thisSo basically take tretinoin, perform good skin care, don't crash your estrogen, don't get sub 10% bodyfat, and lay off the DHT based shit (not saying to never do it, but at least cycle that masteron conservatively, don't cruise on it)
>>77184883Completely incorrect. Pretty much all SERM's are known to potentially cause eye damage, because the damage occurs due to the blocking of the estrogen receptors. This is common knowledge in 2026, boomer.
>>77184991Nah, you bought clomid branded as enclomiphene like a retard and damn near trooned out on the zuclomiphene.
Feel emotionally numb, no highs or lows, flat, no motivation to lift or trainThink I fucked up with reta or deca or bothTaking p5p, no other symptoms like itchy nips or boner problemsThinking it's dopamine fuckery from the deca coupled with the desire destruction of the glp1Very weird cycle results, test/deca/eq/var
>>771848191mg/kg of body weight is usually the go to for gear induced acne, so around 70mg+ per day
>>77185007hcg helps my anhedonia
>>77185013thanks
>>77185016Already 500iu 3x weekGonna drop reta and see what happens, it clears the quickest
>>77185039it will purge and get worse for a few weeks before it clears up, but dont listen to zoylennial redditors who are 120lbs saying 20-50mg is good enough
>>77185056>>77185056>but dont listen to zoylennial redditors who are 120lbs saying 20-50mg is good enoughhow come my dude? what happens if I take low doses?
https://x.com/nypost/status/2039772532010635421>marriage blew up because he couldn't stop cheating on his 9/10 wife with pornstars>3rd DUI>hair thinningIs this the fate of all fraudsters?https://x.com/officer_Lew/status/2039763495420342756
>>77184894>We have to accept looking older to the extent that its also making us more attractiveNo guy with roid induced aged face looks good. They have bad signs of aging and look like they've been abusing street drugs and booze for decades which isn't the same as looking like Sean Connery.
>>77185062>marriage blew up because he couldn't stop cheating on his 9/10 wife with pornstarsI'm not a billionaire so I cheat on my 6/10 wife with trannies>3rd DUII don't drink>hair thinningI'm bald
>>77185059literally nothing. the people that take 20-50mg are not on steroids, are usually teens, you will take it for a month and not see any changes and youll have wasted a month of pills and money because youll say "ah i shoulda listened to anon about 1mg/kg" i did the exact same thing because i saw people saying they cleared up on 20mg, and didnt account for blasting gear.alternatively check your blood and see whats causing it but its most likely hormonalfeel free to look it up yourself on body builder forums or the internet but i did the same thing.
>>77185005>"Enclomiphene citrate can cause visual side effects, including eye floaters, light flashes, and blurry vision, affecting roughly 1%–10% of users. While often reversible, these symptoms can be severe or persistent. Any new or increased floaters should be evaluated by an eye doctor immediately."
>>77184681hell yeah! >>77184853check out goodlabs dot coom. they've been significantly less expensive for me for basic tests. and, yeah, get a solid baseline for your bloods before you hop on, otherwise you won't have a good idea of how aas are affecting you. total test/free test (ms), estradiol (e2. also ms), shbg, psa (prostate), lipids, cmp, cbc, prolactin (prl)... uhh.... i feel like i'm forgetting something. i guess if you and to have kids you can also check fsh & lh now. hmm... igf-1, if you think you'll hop on hgh.... dunno! the goal now is to know what your natty numbers are, so I'm the future when you're blasting you can get new bloods and be able to tell what's gona haywire. like... oh my htc is up 10 points, ldl fuckin doubled, and my prostate is about to pop. all ten tests at goodlabs is $145 + $12 draw fee i think. that's cash price, and it's hsa/fsa eligible, If you happen to have one of those
>>77185105oh, dht. add $35
If I plan on doing multiple injections HGH, HCG, Reta etc can I just reuse the same syringe but swap out the needles for each injection?Or better yet mix them all in one syringe since it is all BAC water anyway?
>>77185062Na just niggers
>>77185151Yes that’s no problem at all. >be me>use the same insulin syringe over and over again for daily peptide injections until it’s literally as dull as a paperclip and can’t pierce the skin without possible breaking off in my belly>use 25g syringe tips 2-3 times each for IM injections>never swab vials>never swab injection site before injecting>mix 3 to 6 peptides in a single syringe dailyStop overthinking things.
>>77185151there are some who raise concerns over some peptides being touchy (to the point that shaking the vial can ruin them), and mixing peps in a single vial can cause unexpected issues that change the structure of the peptide. whether or not you but into that, i have heard that mixing multiple glp's can cause them to turn goopy
Why did steroids change my hair from straight to kinda curly
WHERE CAN I GET HCG OR WHERE CAN I FIND SOURCES
>>77185527meso steroid underground
>>77185527I just typed "buy hcg" into google and it came up with sites to buy it (no prescription) lol.
I really don't want to spend $500 for 3 months of Accutane, how easy is it to gaslight derms for it or Tretinoin cream?
>>77185608derms need some cert to prescribe it make sure the one you’re looking into can actually give it out
>>77185519Hormonal changes can affect hair texture My hair got curlier after a few bigger blasts
>>77185612I was looking for online places that prescribe it and only really found Honeydew but they do a blood test and checks your kidney/liver funcs. JUST GIVE ME A 30 SECOND QUESTIONAIRE AND BILL MY INSURANCE NIGGERS FUCK AHHHHHHH
>>77185105>>77184853I've been using anabolicinsights.ai and it's cheaper than goodlabs
>>77185608can you get it from like a jeet online pharmacy?
>>77185068you are a retarded faggot I took great care to explain the nuance with my post and you are too fucking stupid to comment on it shut the fuck up and let the adults talk
>>77185639Anon recc'd something above and their prices for 80mg/day dosage, 3 months would be around $480 buckaroos. Other sites that sell gear specific items have accutane for about $100 more per month... I have great insurance and wish I could abuse it.
>>77185608You can get Tretinoin easy from a jeet online pharmacy. Isotretinoin (Accutane) might be slightly more difficult, but I'm not sure.
>>77185645Oh I see that the same place I get my Glycopyrrolate has 0.1% Tretinoin cream. Might add that to my account.
>>77185527check DMs
>>77185062twink death
Naringin for hemo rate/globin?
>>77185637ooh fuck yeah thank you
>>77185608You gonna apply tret on your chest and back too? Sounds annoying.
>>77186358Yes? My back isn’t an issue I only have a few spots but I always have had those. The issue is my chest and shoulders and I do those twice a day before and after work, sometimes in the middle of the night if I had a particularly sweaty sleep. I got some tretinoin cream coming but am using a Retinol serum until then to see if it helps more than the Sacylic acid scrub or Benzyl Peroxide I have been using the past 2 weeks.
>>77186358they have these smooth sponge on a stick things for fat fucks and swole fucks to apply lotion. you could probably manage with that to apply your genetic failure cream in hard to reach spots
Wife got real quiet when I said a bodycount of 10 or more was disgusting. She's always told me she'd only been fucked out by 2 guys before me. Am i being lied to or is the tren making me schizo? What's the current meta on making a body disappear?
>>77186521Any woman who doesn't maintain her virginity until she has a ring on her finger is garbage anyway. Do what you've got to do king.
>>77186521Women don't want to talk about that shit period so her reaction is normal. If she was a slut you'd know before you got on tren unless you're extremely autistic. Let me put it this way. Let's say she brought up how pathetic masturbating to porn was. Even if you're not watching porn you'd take that as a low key accusation.
>>77186598masturbation is normal and healthybeing a whore isnt
>>77178664>Genuinely asking why aren't most of you running hcg to preserve your balls?genuinely asking where you get this information from?
>>77186521If your body count was 0 and hers was 2, you'd probably be disgusted with her. It's relative.
>>771866162 isn't a whore. Sorry but attractive people have sex.
>>77186621>2 is a whoreI didn't say that. I said it's relative.
>>77186598this is going to be pretty controversial but I have dated whores on purpose and they are fun as fuck. My last girlfriend told me "she isnt going to have sex" like three times on our first date. I eventually got into her bed and whipped out my six inch dick and as soon as she saw it she lost all control of herself and we had sex. She was so fucking fun to go out and do stuff with. She would buy box wine and fill us up thermoses full of it and we would just go drink at the dog park and weird shit like this. Also she would do ANYTHING sexually. Anything.
>>77186632based whore enjoyer
Should I dump all of my Beligas vials after the news they sold a bunk batch or are some still good
>>77186632There's some middle ground. Like obviously you'd want to lock a girl like that down when she's like 16-18 before she gets blown out. But in my experience those relationships always end up in divorce, especially if you're also 18. But if you don't hit the lottery like that it's impossible to find a virgin that isn't a wet blanket with 0 sex drive by the time they hit 25.
I thought this thread was about steroids? >What resources are you using to learn about different types of gear, and their respective pros/cons?
>>77186678All I know is I got some of that Belgian shit and a whole batch turned out to be fakes and I could have been doing nothing but oil this whole time.
>>77186683That honestly sucks. Why didn't you test it beforehand?
>>77186686Too much effort and time to send out to a lab
>>77186678crazy how they always forget to put "pro white" on the T shirts!
>>77186616Mine was 1, hers was 2. Not ideal but we were 20 so it is what it is.
>>77177683Why the fuck are Russians so bad at fighting? Even Ukraine is rolling them.
>>77186646A while ago I did some 450mg beligas and it felt like actual fucking death. I nearly went to ED.
>>77186647Our grandparents/parents had no fucking idea how good they had it where even the energetic slightly wild girls still had max 3-4 partners. Boomers out there were married to huge titted, sex mad virgins and then tell us to pay their pensions.
>>77186729Same but with Ultima. Both got in trouble recently
>>77186521I knew my wife before we dated and knew she was wild but not a whore, just kinky. I still hold it against her sometimes but only out loud a handful of times early in our relationship because I don’t want to hear how she took it in the ass once. Now she is my whore; but Tren will make you paranoid if you have time to think. Always be doing something to keep your mind occupied or it will wander to your insecurities.
>>77186762You need to up your tren and claim that rectum for yourself. 500mg stat no ester and go for it.
>>77186762did she at least have anal sex with you?
>>77186781I don't have any interest in butt play, I have stuck my tongue in there and said if she ever wants to do it I am game but there is a perfect wet sopping pussy ready to grip my cock any time of day. She indulges in my kinks and I indulge in hers, anything besides sharing/cucking is fair play pretty much, maybe no poop stuff but pee is ok. I like disgusting degen shit and she lets me do it, and the Test/Tren cycle I run she enjoys the sex even if I get a bit sweaty at night I just sleep on a towel next to her.I LOVE DEGENERACY WITH THE WOMAN I LOVE BUT I WILL NEVER LET HER EVEN LOOK AT ANOTHER MALE BECAUSE I AM TERRITORIAL.
>>77186808I'm not into it either but I like to do it at least once just to tick that checkbox
>>77186521why do y'all throw a tantrum about how many people someone has slept with, then turn around a bitch about how you cant get laid? as long as they're only fucking you while they're with you, then you need to get the fuck over it. fuck all of you for making slut shaming a thing. women are just as horny as men. we'd all be fucking randoms every day without a second thought if you stupid fucking prudish puritanical pukes didnt fucking ruin it for the rest of us. fuck you
>>77186728Western militaries believe in shock and awe doctrine which is why we can do shit like take over Iraq with a tiny fraction of the casualties. Russia tried to emulate this in Ukraine but the problem is you have to be autistically obsessed with tech and logistics to pull it off. Otherwise you're taking on a big risk of encirclement with nothing to mitigate it. They're just a defensive military and at the end of the day their biggest advantage is they have tons of retarded gopniks they can force onto the front lines and hope to break the enemy's will by outlasting their budget.
>>77186826I am open to it but I don’t have the checklist mindset anymore, I got what I wanted and if it happens cool but I am happy with our dynamic. I want to get her pregnant soon for the preggo sexxo if life works out correctly this next year.
>>77186762Tren is a funny thing because it makes me enraged at the notion another male has ever touched my wife. But I can't bring it up because I was a much bigger slut than her, and mentioning it just reminds her of that. I still want to hunt those faggots down and beat them to death though lel
>>77186835godspeed anon
>>77186521any more than 0 is a whore
>>77186828I assume this is a joke, but if it isn't, then you're severely mentally ill and should probably kys for the benefit of the species.
>this is what he used to win worlds strongest manlol ok dude...
>>77186876says the mental gymnast that cucks themselves by the thought of their partner having been in a previous relationship
>>77186808That's what tren is for though. Your desires don't matter, if another man has pumped her ass you need to give her the flesh pillar sigmoidoscopy.
>>77186974>> flesh pillar sigmoidoscopygod damn word smith
>>77186936hyperresponders exist andperhaps more importantly, lying about the doses has a twofold benefit as it builds up the drama and perhaps covers the asses of the competition organizers but more more importantly lying about what you do to get where you are in order make your genetics seem better and make the normalfags impressed is an age old tactic
>>77186993why 100mg mast though that feels useless compared to the rest
>>77186996DHT/mood support maybe, deca tends to make me depressed feelingIt's not real anyway, 0% chanceProbably not even from him at all
>>77186970It's real hahahaha. You absolute subhuman hahaha. Literally you (pic rel).
>>77186993>hyperresponders existlol lmao. They all say they take 500 test and are "hyper responders" because they don't want retards to hop on the shit they actually take >>77182332. An IRL hyperreaponder is not winning WSM on 500 test. They might just be able to take like 500mg less than the usual blow out suicide dose these niggers are on.
>>77187010did you roid rage after reading the first line of my post?granted I should've emphasised that the second part is far more important than the firstand hyperresponders do exist, while I don't believe every story from the golden era and mass monster era, some of them were actually running low doses and were using less compounds than are available now and they look better than guys running grams across a dozen compounds
>>77186974She knows who owns her that’s all I care about.
>>77187065You're like Francis Crozier saying seeing the Northern Passage is good enough then dying cucked and cold in King William Island (analless marriage). Meanwhile Roald Amundsen went deep through that passage like a fucking Trireme and the sea ice is alpha widowed and GAPED.Tren is like taking the Yamato and loading the engines with nitrous and cum and heaving through at 400 knots.
>>77187077Im off Tren cycle for another month, we’ll see what happens but I had no desire for it. Might do it to claim it like Antarctica
>>77187081It's not about what you desire. It's the obligation to claim territory. Ask her how deep he went precisely and stake your flag further in. The colon curves left a little into the body so I suggest violent and unexpected sheering force during the maximal point of fucking in order to force your dick end slightly around the bend. It's HIGHLY unlikely her past anal partner ever did that and given he was bigger it is likely your only chance to compete for the territory.
>>77187086Trust me I get it, I have conquered every other part of her with my rod I just haven’t had the WANT to have her clean herself out and bust in there when I have every other option on the table. I will do it eventually for (You) and my sanity I guess.
>>77187113Make sure when you're done you lob some red paint up afterwards so she thinks she has bowel cancer and becomes dependent on you for fear of inbound infirmity and death.
>>77187122She would probably cry lol, she won’t even let me inject her with Reta but will whine about being fat and starve herself for 1 day and complain when I eat 2lbs of ground beef and rice slop for dinner. I JUST WANT TO PIN MORE TREN ALREADY I HATE OFF CYCLE CRUISING SHITmaybe I can low dose Tren cruise…
>>77187126It's time to start the 400mg tren cruis, 2g blast life
I've been on HCG for the last 3 month.My T bioavailable has raised from 187 ng/dl to 260ng/dl.my T total 500 to 621my fucking prolactin 11 to 18ug/Land my E2 is now at 150pmol/L.I'm anxious as fuck, what do I do, I'm on 0.5mg anastrozole a week. more Ai? just shoot T and hope for the best? let go of the HCG?between the first and second month I felt so good, progressed so fast.
>>77187063NTA but there are a lot more roided lifters today than back then. So from a probability standpoint there should be more outliers today in terms of genetics and being hyperresponders, yet we never see any. People still talk about Arnold, Yates, Ronnie etc
>>77187160yes stop HCGif you already have some reconstituted just microdose until its gone if you dont wanna chuck itstart up again once your e2 is back downno more than 1mg on anastrozole per week (works very fast)
>>77187160Why in the fuck are you injecting hcg without any sort of steroid or SARM? Stop that shit and get on enclomiphene if you want higher T and fertility.
>>77187160Enclomiphene is now the meta brother.
Anyone use pentosan for joints, or even know where to get any?no jeet pharma's carry any
I will remind them
>>77187934b-b-but im cruising…
Lots of anons praising HCG ITT. Can y'all tell me why I did 3 months of HCG and it gave my gyno?
>>77187009lol you think so highly of yourself that even in your infantile fantasy you make yourself a disposable afterthought. another random fuck boy not worth a second thought. sad
>>77187077oh my god are you >>77186974 too? fucking amazing hahaha
>>77187160hcg monotherapy? how much are you taking, and how often? must just not be your thing. try adding like 100mg test, and halving the hcg. all this shit is very individual. there's no one size fits all solution. fuck around, get your bloods, and find what works for you. just dont expect a quick fix. make one change at a time and stick to it for three months before you get bloods, then adjust as necessary. dont give up! sucks now, but it'll be awesome when you get it nailed down. a year of adjustments is nothing over the span of the rest of your life
>>77187175they still talk about them because there's so few people who become high level ifpbb pros that stick with it. some anon rattled off some stat about even only a small percentage of people who get their pro cards can actually compete at the top level. but if you want new names, look up that african dude who just won some contest last month. absolutely bonkers figure
My dad uses some electric needle thing for his insulin for his diabetes that makes it "easy and pain free". My buddy is asking me if there's any alternatives to needles, because he's afraid he'll fuck up so I told him possibly those electric needles that my dad uses. Does anyone have any experience with those? I just ram veterinarian needles for horses full of test straight into my leg without ever sanitizing or giving it a second thought so I'm not really in the know how about these fancy electric needle things.
>>77188053I think the point is that the notion of a hyper responder is a myth. There's always been a bell curve and the guys at the top of it were always taking insane doses of roids. Think about it. If you could be WSM on 500 test, why not blast 3 grams or whatever and leave humanity behind? It's all smoke and mirrors to dupe retarded normies that are wise to the fact all strength athletes are roided but still think roids are cheating.
>>77188061Don't indulge his delusions. There's basically no way you can fuck up injecting into your ass. Virtually impossible unless you are severely retarded.
>>77188087>Think about it. If you could be WSM on 500 test, why not blast 3 grams or whatever and leave humanity behind?but if you're winning on 500mgs then why increase the does worsening your health?
>>77188094You're telling me these guys wouldn't go for a 600kg deadlift "for their health?"
>>77188104that's assuming 600kg is possible with the current technologyit took halftor like 9 years to beat eddie by 10kgsif someone could pull 600 we would at least have the idea but I see nothing unfortunately
>>77188087>>77188104I’d argue that being at the front of the pack with whatever number, you would have to know a ton about physiology and biomechanics, and being in that elite group of guys where adding 5lbs to a lift can take a year or more, you’d be well aware of what the body is capable of.Just because you could theoretically make yourself much stronger doesn’t mean that the entire machine would hold together under such forces, so it’s probably a precaution.
Since everyone is talking about HCG here is my experience:Works amazing for restoring testicular size, volume and feeling. Will not do much for your luteinizing hormone levels if you are using or continue to use testosterone injections but still great. Used after 1 year of BnC and my balls went from 60% to 125% of original size (500iu E3D for 2 months). It makes me cum like a pornstar, 10ml+ of pure white spunk; HOWEVER; many anons have claimed they took equal or more HCG than I did and got little/insignificant boost to orgasm quality or volume, so don't think this is a guaranteed benefit. Made me horny as fuck too. I would see fuck meat walking down the side walk while driving to/from work and immediately get erect.Continuing with the bad stuff.... I had so much success the first HCG run I got greedy and started doing 500ius EVERY DAY because my stupid ass read ON A RANDOM GOOGLE RESULT WEBSITE how some doctors were prescribing similar dosages to people with severe hypogonadism so I assumed it was safe and I was going to just be in cummy heaven busting huge nuts 5 times a day. WRONG. My e2 (estrogen) goes up through the fuckin roof despite using adex and I get super emotional and full of acne. Orgasms were slightly more voluminous but not as enjoyable because of my warped state of mind. Had trouble staying erect. Stopped HCG after 2 weeks of the every day regimen and didn't touch it for almost a year.Currently using it now (500iu E3D) because I am on a cruise. Traditionally HCG was used starting when you were a couple weeks out from stopping testosterone use and transitioning back to being natty. I am a perma BnC retard so that does not apply.TL;DR: Works fantastic for its intended use. I get amazing nuts from using it but apparently this is like 1 in 3 odds. Bad things CAN and WILL happen if you over do it. Keep your e2 in check. Pretty retarded to run by itself without using testosterone. You should start with 250iu twice a week to access tolerance.
>>77188040Hahahaha. You're literally a cuck. Enjoy your STI's you subhuman freak.
>>77177930Just be aware that fin by itself might not be strong enough if you're using TRT. Add dutasteride as needed.
>>77178056>>77178067You're allergic to one of the ingredients. Change to another brand.
>>77188266>addreplace not add dude
i'm on reta and glow (GHK-cu, TB500, BPC157)should i add HGH and Testim a 300 lb fat fuck. im dieting and lifting 3x a week and i have a manual labor job. down 20 lbs. im trying to look good for once in my life, and not like a bag of loose foreskin
NEW>>77188335>>77188335>>77188335>>77188335
>>77188334Get the fat off first.
>>77188092Define fucking up. Let's say someone has a bunch of blood dripping from their ass because their hand is shaky. Is that fucking up, or do you mean hitting a vein?
>>77188514Either I guess. But even if you do those you'll be fine.
