Is there anything worth saving? Every thread that actually discusses lifting is just the most dogmatic, stubborn, ignorant people you could imagine. It's like talking to a wall.

Make all incelophere and blackpill-adjacent bullshit a rule violation carrying a 3 day ban.

Either that or we switch entirely to being an all-purpose incelboard with doomer wojak pastas and e-celebrity gossip - threads about fat loss and lifting techniques gets deleted on the basis of being a solved problem ("ready the sticky, stupid")

I don’t know man. I have been predicting 4chan is gonna be in trouble because the captchas are getting too hard/tedious and AI is gonna be able to solve them anyway. This friction to posting is really bad and it’s tempting to just go to Twitter or whatever. But 4chan SHOULD never die because other platforms ban people like crazy. I’m banned from pretty much every forum or social media I have ever used. Lifetime bans too. I could get around these ofc but fuck them im not gonna do it. There should just be enough non-npcs who are banned for racism or telling trannies to kill themsleves or whatever to always keep 4chan afloat. Seems a lot of these people don’t want to talk about fitness unfortunately

>>77212301
The black pill shit has to be agents from another country trying to demoralize us right? No way there are fags running demoralization campaigns for free and for no reason.

Anyway I still don’t like your idea. Very Redditor way of thinking and giving way too much power to Jannie faggots

The whole site is declining; captchas are necessary on anonymous sites to reduce indians, but theyre only getting longer and more complex to make a single fucking post and at this point 99% of people would probably prefer an account but that would make avoiding bans harder and the difficulty of true moderation on this site is a huge part of what makes it what it is.

That being said I paradoxically think true over moderation is what has killed /fit/ in particular, I came here in 2011 and it was health & fitness then and all manner of threads existed under the umbrella, mental health sexual health etc, everyone knows we lift to get girls and any proper fitness community understands that. Nowadays the /plg/ faggots have managed to turn the board into a single issue discourse, just weightlifting pretty much.
>you have been banned for offtopic blahblah dating threads go here sex threads go to porn board (even tho no one fucking uses them for discussion)
>appearance threads go to /fa/ looksmaxxing goes to r9k any thread about women is political and goes on /pol/

This place is just as bad as reddit at this point.

>>77212316
Agreed over moderation is a huge problem when 4chans only niche is that it’s less moderated than others. I never used to get banned for racism and now I am banned for racism constantly.

>>77212316
>everyone knows we lift to get girls and any proper fitness community understands that

This place has always revolved around bait and everyone here hates each other and im not sure if you are baiting or an incel or 20 years old, therefore part of a group i could never learn from. This makes me disdainful.

>>77212283
>ban low effort engagement bait
>dedicated generals for the annoying ecelebs
>stop being a dying message board with no growing audience because young people are going to tiktok
>ignore africa

>>77212303
>>77212316
I only have to solve 1 captcha and its always the "use the scrol bar below to find the image that is not like the others" with 3 choices. It's actually faster and easier than the previous captcha where you'd have to both move the slider and then type out the text.

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>>77212283
Until you can figure out a way to fix the contrarian problem there is no saving it. 12-15 years ago anons had actual discussions and only called people faggots when they were acting like faggots. Now any discussion devolves into BBC fantasies, incel shit and greentext rage bait that says nothing but somehow gets 15+ you’s.

>>77212326
This board was shit in 2013 too though it was just another variety of turd. The trips everybody wouldnt shut the fuck up about were a manlet that looked like a monkey, a russian faggot blogging about getting fucked in the ass and a guy that made literally thousands of posts about getting an A V E R A G E korean gf.

>>77212325
I also much prefer the current captcha to the previous one.

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>>77212283
More May Marmalade posts

>range ban Indians and South Americans
>lower moderation
>find a way to make it where you solve a captcha and then your IP is free to post x posts for the next hour without solving one again, or something else to make it less tedious
>invest in some money in putting some very targeted ads out to bring people in/back in

The issue is fundamentally that there aren't many people on this board anymore. It went from a very active, fast board like /tv/ to being slow as fuck with threads sometimes staying up for 2 fucking months. This is the case for most boards on this website with some exceptions, usually ones where /pol/-lite discussions can be had.

Fitness is really a mostly solved problem. There is infinitely more resources now and if you have a specific question it's better in 99% of cases to just ask chatgpt cause if you ask here you get 5 contradicting replies by DYEL retards that don't even know anything about the subject. The social aspect of it has entirely moved to tiktok and instagram as well for the younger people and the board is too slow to serve as a quasi-chat room anyways at this point. It's over.

>>77212316
this shit is not happening because of captchas. The decline started way before that

>>77212333
>>77212325
The board now has a stealth karma system that gives the set of easier captchas to "trusted" cookies and browser fingerprints. If you're on a static IP that doesn't get banned and use the same web browser and cookies, you get grandfathered in to bypass rangebans and get the easier captchas. If you change IPs often, like on mobile for instance, or are posting on devices the site doesn't recognize you'll either get the tedious annoying captchas or get caught under a huge blanket rangeban that are now being handed out and can only post if you BUY PASSU or verify your email. Until recently, I could only post on my PC and every single other device on my home network or mobile networks was caught under a rangeban.

It's fucking easy
The board is full of old people hence the whining about zooooomers 24/7. Zoomer derangement syndrome.
When someone in their 20s or late teens comes here to find a slow website with half the threads being about old man injuries and anti aging they're of course going to dip tf out somewhere more favorable in age
The same losers from 2014 never grew up

>>77212348
Sounds like a good thing to me

>>77212330
Post the average Korean girl in question or at least the name. I am an oldfag and I don't recall this guy. Only tiny and zyzz

>>77212350
lol the zoomers who take sarms and only do cables exercises for 2 sets do need to be ridiculed bro. As a generation I freely admit that my millennial generation is way more faggoted than yours on the whole. Hard times create strong men etc.

>>77212355
https://desuarchive.org/fit/search/text/tfw%20no%20a%20v%20e%20r%20a%20g%20e%20korean%20gf/
could be someone copying him but there are posts as recent as a few years ago lol. wouldnt surprise me if its the same guy cause he was demented and retarded and the outcome of not getting said korean gf 10 years later is the expected one

>>77212316
yea over moderation. and no room for even something slightly off topic. And he even just deletes legit threads whenever he wants. This current janitor is a fucking faggot

>>77212341
Im freeeeeeeeee

>>77212283
youtube replaced /fit/

>>77212360
This is the lowest hanging fruit shit ever and just shows that the people who point out that these guys perception is warped by social media suffer from this themselves. Steroids le bad have been overdone to death in the last half decade and no one ever actually puts out meaningful insight aside from this, we get it. You can feel free to stop virtue signalling. On another hand, it's like 1000 teenagers on instagram that we have to pretend represent billions. You wouldnt even fill a stadium with all the sarm goblins out there.

>>77212283
I thought current zoomers were into memes/right-wing politics and fitness. Shouldnt this be the perfect place for them?

Muh anonymosity
This place needs an actual forum structure as in you can see what retards look like by clicking on their trip or what their lift prs are. Keep the same bumping and non-engagement counting (aside from (yous) system but instate some form of login to post your body with a timestamp and have it there forever or as a pfp.

>>77212381
(sadly) stuff like forums are dead and I dont see them coming back like ever. they got replaced by faggy discord.

>>77212326
>the contrarian problem
Back in the day /fit/ was shilling SS and 5/3/1. At the time that was peak contrarianism.

>>77212385
They're not and i wont spoonfeed you. Discord is as faggy as you make it btw, sure there's a big concentration of fags there but it's on you for having filtering skill issues.
As it stands this place is just to take a big dump whenever i feel like it

There’s not really much new blood coming in and the site as a whole has been declining for years. /Fit/ also was never really a huge board like tv or v. Also jannies need tone executed on sight.

>>77212286
fpbp

>>77212388
nah sorry m8 but discord is 100% faggy no filtering will change that. the term groomercord/trannycord is justified. I will stick with my mirc. thanks but no thanks.

Trvthnuke: the reason this board is so shit is because 90% of it is all millennials who never made it, as >>77212350
Said

I don’t blame zoomers too
Much, they just wanna lift and shitpost and are mostly new but all the whining, crying about aging, gatekeeping and general fuckery is from millennials who didn’t make it. You won’t like this and it hurts to hear but it’s a brutal trvke,
T. Zillenial

>>77212396
You are a zoomer. A ZOOMER. Embrace it.

>>77212394
>My (actually ran by trannies) meme platform is better than x tranny platform because it's le archaic or something
Posts like this make me happy that autists get punched down to the point where their hangouts get destroyed by muh normies kek. It's a medium, how it turns out is decided by your use of it.

>>77212388
lol discord is going to require an ID to use soon. It’s a cuckold platform. I will go back to ventrilo for gaming if I must

>>77212316
>>77212363
yeah, there's nothing to talk about really. Fitness is basically a solved problem. You can name any other board and there's new stuff happening, or being released. Even slow boards like trv or out you can talk about new trends or the impact of travel costs or other shit.
Nobody wants to autistically go over the latest science paper or rethread the same old /fit/ essentials

>>77212412
Works on my machine. Enjoy hanging out with actual tech trannies

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>4chan hack shutdown was now over a year ago
That's it, that's fucking it, I'm getting the fuck up and leaving this city and going out into the fucking world I am not letting any more time run through my fingers like this

>>77212400
You can be born right on the edge between zoomer and millennial, hard as that may be for you to believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgnKpbnbAdg
What would Zyzz be like today?

>>77212420
I miss this era

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>>77212420
>zyzz died 15 years ago

>>77212420
he looks like a dyel manlet faggot to me and I am not trying to be contrarian

>>77212427
He was 6'1'', retarded zoomer dumbass

>>77212283
Stricter captcha means less posts
Most initial churn comes from the "you must wait 60 seconds".
On /fit/, you have enough time to write something and post it right before your next set starts. With this 60s timeout, this is no longer possible

>>77212420
Was a grifter and would still be just another grifter. People suck him off just because he was one of the first

>>77212438
What was his grift exactly?

>>77212439
Pretending to be natty and berrating his audience all the time and flexing on them, which his revisionist fanboys turned somehow into him being motivational or whatever.
If zyzz fanboys witnessed him during their adulthood he would be considered some weirdo cosplaying a frat douchebag. But maybe i expect too much from men who lack father figures

>>77212439
He had no grift.
He was just a narcissist, addicted to validation both online and offline.
He was probably asexual, and just slept with women because it "helped" his insecurities.

>>77212283
/fit/ is fine this should be a board for fitness not another /pol//v//b/ you shitpost on when you're bored. Get other hobbies or use the designated shitting boards there's more to life.

>>77212449
>He was probably asexual
What do you base this speculation on?

>>77212452
>no fun allowed

Gee I wonder why the board is dying

Fitness culture massively died out since Covid

The Zyzz/Piana era is over and now its all about anti aging and looksmaxxing.

>>77212419
There is no edge. There are hard brackets and muh ZILEMNIAL doesn't exist. You are just a zoomer, an old zoomer.

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>>77212334
Yeah

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>>77212283
I can only post at home, on my phone. On my laptop or in almost every other location I try I get "IP range banned due to abuse" message even though I dindu nuffin
This includes work which is where I would normally do the bulk of my shitppsting

>>77212316
The moderation on /fit/ is the most no fun allowed shit out of any board I use on this site. It's one of the slowest boards on 4chan now. The only active thread is the fucking /fat/ general and it runs laps around the board. Absolutely embarrassing at how incompetent the moderation is.

>>77212541
I can't think of anything but choking the shit out of her when she exposes her neck and shoulders and it's made me the hardest I've been in months

>>77212583
The anime bored gave me a ban for posting a wojak and it’s populated with the most deplorable pedo morons of any board as well

>>77212589
Now you see /a/ is moderation mostly done right. Don't post low effort off topic degenerative memes like pepes and wojaks, but on topic shitposting is fair game. There's an oppai loli thread on that board with over 400 posts now. The only bad part is the 24/7 shonen generals that devolve into power level and shipperfag spergouts that infect the rest of the board, but keeping them all in one thread is probably better than letting them run wild.

>>77212583
That shit pisses me off. The whole board is straight from reddit. Bunch of heckin positivity and patting eachother on the back for not eating 3 pieces of cake. Or whining how hard 10k steps is. Then fat people hate will have like 4 super old gifs and then weird schizos arguing about i dont even know what for the rest of the thread. God I hate fat losers

>>77212283
Almost the exact same decline since ~September 2025 can be seen in the activity of several other boards, so whatever the cause, it's a site wide issue.

It does not want to be saved

>>77212283
No need to, the retards nowadays can't even wrap their head around simple things like cico, worse than obese black women mental gymanstics, no one wants results, they just want to shout at each other about gimmicks, just let it die who cares...

>>77212855
>Noooo stop discussing my dogma you cant just btfo me like that

>>77212867
Nice discussion retard friend, you are really out there btfo carbfags and everyone will clap at the end, take your meds and good luck.

>>77212316
We currently have mods that don't understand board culture; traditional threads get deleted yet "how do I get big biceps" with a picture of a woman in shape wear are allowed

>>77212880
>carbfags
Please point out where i mentioned carbohydrates in my post
Hard mode : without crying

>>77212903
where did I mention that you mentioned carbs? In fact you didn't mention anything, you just posted your delusions which I don't care about, you talked to me, I didn't talk to you.

the younger generation cares more about being a twink with abs and bonesmashing than lifting, it is doomed
the minority that lift bench press with wrist wraps and butt off the bench to get instagram clicks

there's a ton of shit ass threads in the catalog
guess mods don't exist on /fit/

>>77212883
Mods are like politicians. Those who would do the best job have no desire to do it and you’re basically stuck with simple-minded egomaniacs who get off on controlling this or that facet of people’s lives.

No one here lifts

>>77212283
They remove way too much fitness culture threads. It's actually so fucking ridiculous how you can't discuss height, dating, aesthetics, or looksmaxing,

>>77213034
this. I'd probably post here more often if they weren't so strict on keeping things only fitness related. You can't talk about anything fitness-adjacent at all yet having a "feelsbar" thread is somehow allowed.

The board isn't even that active so there's no harm in treating it like a locker room and allowing some slight off-topic talk related somewhat to fitness.

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>>77212283
with an aggregated decrease of 1700 posts per day per year, and today having approximately 1700 posts per day, i project /fit/ will have 0 posts per day per year on exactly april 20th, 2027. a fitting end for hitler's birthday

I’m permanently banned from Reddit and Twitter and tik tok bros where am I going to go without /fit/?

>>77212307
they're from the same group that controls all the countries.

>>77212307
>>77212301
>Nooooo stop being realistic you cant just break my fantasy weenie hut jr world where everything is pink and rainbows and sparkles

>>77213038
they want you drinking

I feel like every /fit/ janny should be forced to post body in the sticky, updated every 30 days.

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Gym Boom was highest around at 2007 - 2017

Boomers crew old, they dont go to gym anymore, me included. I do once a week bench perhaps to keep pecs large but that's it

The 18-25yo generations are much smaller than boomer generations in western world and mostly immigrants, they dont train. So the amount of people going to gym is declined

Also other boards such as pol and biz were declined

>>77213098
Bullshit explanation gymcelling is at it's highest peak, it's just that This place is uninteresting to young people
I dont accept any less midwitery of a tranime weeb

>>77213101
Expect *

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>>77213101
it's probably mostly driven by old grandpas that go to gym.

at least generation Z men all look like none of them go to gym. they are thin and weak with no muscles or landwhales.

all boards are in decline in 4chan but it's good because retards go to reddit etc. tiktok we dont want them anyways

>>77212326
>Now any discussion devolves into BBC fantasies
The reality is far worse. I see news stories posted here of Canadian bitches spreading their legs to Poos for vapes. Paki "Rape" Gangs 2.0.

>>77213087
Bro go walk around your nearest grocery store or something. You will see plenty of normal couples. Lots of normal guys with normal girlfiriends. You are just socially retarded or autistic

>>77212504
No, the term Zillennial refers to literal Millennials born in the mid90s.

>>77213056
There was an alternative Reddit coming for guys who aren't Chinese spies or feminist faggots but I guess it never happened since I signed up for the Beta test of whatever it was called and never heard anything again. :(

>>77213047
And with that we can all finally go home

the captchas are so god awful.

>>77213112
Cope zoomers mog your kind

>>77212286
>Is there anything worth saving?
The sticky

>>77212283
country id flags

>>77213194
this but for all boards

>bought a 3 year 4chan pass today

>>77213169
The sticky is older than most people here

Reminder anyone who shills for flags in all boards” joined here no earlier than 2016

Gyms are flooded with people. I’m sick of hearing about this stupid bullshit regarding Gen Z, you fags need to let things go about being older now. Every damn board I see the same nonsense over and over. /fit/ is extremely moderated for the worst, any threads that used to exist and give life to this place got purged. Captcha is a bitch for every post. Lots of things are a detriment to 4chan

>>77213230
All of your posts will be downgraded and taken less eriously, but you'll just have to get over it.

>>77212283
everyone on here is just miserably hateful. every other post is a personal attack. nobody has fun anymore.
>How do we save /fit/
you have to post your body with timestamp. once you do, you get an ID that follows you around in everythread and then you are allowed to post. then we get to see who is shitting up the board.
>>77212381
this basically. people say anonymity allows people to be honest without retribution. in reality, it just allows people to be the absolute worst shitheads without having to take responsibility for the things they say. you can say all sorts of heinous shit in one post and then pretend to be someone else in another. you wouldnt dare say that kind of shit if people could put a name to your posts.

Been here since 2008, it's a mix of things that won't improve as long as the owner doesn't care about the site.

The captcha and timeouts are absolutely linked with declining posts. 1% of extra friction means fewer posts, with fewer replies, which compounds year over year.
Not to mention they're implemented completely ass backwards. Bots don't care about waiting 60 seconds, and any new captcha is automated within a week.
They increase friction for humans and increase the ratio of bot posts.

Beyond that it's the aging demographic. The site hit it's non /b/ high point in the 2010s as the user's aged up a bit into their 20s and weren't so retarded.
Now the average age must be hitting well into the 30s on most boards.
The well adjusted that post every once in awhile have better things to do than fight captchas to shitpost.
So the board gets more toxic, echo-y, and slower.

Discord luring away posters and shit jannies are issues, but for anyone that isn't an addict or a bot, the site's just annoying to use, and as it gets slower it becomes even less interesting to fight to post on.

>disables main vpn, passes cloudflare check box, waits 60 seconds, passes cloudflare checkbox again, scrolls through 4 freaking captchas, and can finally post

>>77213221
The information in the sticky is timeless, and therefore worth preserving.

>>77213242
So fucking leave. Go to reddit where every post is tied to your internet name and preserved forever. Yes, part of anonymity is that people are going to be deceitful lying bastards, and you have to develop a bullshit detector. Git gud. The real point is that you can say UNPOPULAR things like "covid was engineered in a Chinese lab" and "you will never be a woman" and the satanic order that rules the world can't just un-person you.

>>77213356
This
Never forget people with his opinions also joined 2016-17 at the latest btw

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>>77213233
>>77213034
>>77213038
>>77212316


a big part of what made this forum active was the off-topic bro talk
this was the only non-incel forum where bros could be bros
even the incels were improovers and weren't like the r9k simps that were ready to rope it any minute now
I learned so much browsing here during the pandemic:
the plastic surgery threads
the dental threads
threads about dating
looksmaxxing threads
schizos and nerds arguing having scientific debates

about 90% of the topics I would post back then would just get deleted
the thirst pics, varbies, and gym bunnies spammed actually inspired me to workout

i doubt the jannies on here even workout or get pussy
the point is that even though these threads were offtopic, the type of DEMOGRAPHIC the gym community attracted steered conversations in their own unique directs. /fa are a bunch of skinny fans /r9k are indians and asians /pol is bots and retards


i remember i finally got laid and posted a pic of my face in some girls ass and it got hundreds of replies. it was a golden moment on /fit/... today that thread would get instantly deleted and id be banned for weeks.

>>77213537
>this was the only non-incel forum where bros could be bros
>even the incels were improovers and weren't like the r9k simps that were ready to rope it any minute now
>I learned so much browsing here during the pandemic:
>the plastic surgery threads
>the dental threads
>threads about dating
>looksmaxxing threads
You are literally the incel /r9k/ chuds if this is what you came here for.

>>77213537
What you're saying is people were delusional and everyone found out it's useless and the deciding factors for sex are cemented in your teen years aka height and face. Ok gotvha

>>77212301
that will kill the last traffic /fit/ has

By leaving and actually living our lives and not caring about this cursed place forever.

Almost every thread gets deleted that's why nobody bothers to post here any more

If you ban the scizos/ai/paid campaign autism the board goes back to normal and the "board culture" will self correct, but nobody really cares to do anything about it, all the boards are the same. It's time to let go and move on for most of us and since there won't be any new users under these conditions the site is destined to die soon.

>>77213913
Post body

>>77213913
>purchase the world's largest image board
>do absolutely nothing with it
What did Hiro mean by this?

>>77214106
I was about to say passive income but the ads are absurdly cheap and 1/3 of the year there's no ads and most people have adblock on or 4chanx anyways

>>77212283
lol, this board was already dead back in 2019. The hobby has been solved, the personalities are dead and all the anons moved on. There's nothing left to do here.

>>77213913
This and frankly it's by design the jannies are clearly in on it as not only do they do nothing to the autistic off topic spammers, they go out of their way to delete any interested or engaging discussion.

>one tactic is to gradually make the boards less interesting to the users

>>77212283
It's dead
Zoomers are discussing Looksmaxxxing on Tiktok now

>>77213047
that seems like a big decrease in a matter of only 2 years, what the hell is going on?

>>77214212
>Highly racist, toxic and body-dysmorphic community of autists that do not respond well to newcomers
>Wondering why people don't want to be here

>>77214229
what do you do when the newcomers fight against every piece of decent advice given
>>77213852

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>>77212303
>having to solve the quadratic equation in order to reply "LOL" on a thread

>>77212283
We dont. Be happy you were here for the golden years of memes. The internet as a whole is rapidly dying.
>You know, secretly, even if you’re pretending not to, that this thing is nearing exhaustion. There is simply nothing there online. All language has become rote, a halfarsed performance: even the outraged mobs are screaming on autopilot. Even genuine crises can’t interrupt the tedium of it all, the bad jokes and predictable thinkpieces, spat-out enzymes to digest the world. ‘Leopards break into the temple and drink all the sacrificial vessels dry; it keeps happening; in the end, it can be calculated in advance and is incorporated into the ritual.’ Online is not where people meaningfully express themselves; that still happens in the remaining scraps of the nonnetworked world. It’s a parcel of time you give over to the machine. Make the motions, chant its dusty liturgy.

>>77214174
We already solved the hobby and are focusing on other stuff now, grandpa. I'm 26 and started going to the gym 12 years ago.

>>77214106
I feel like he realizes it's a completely unprofitable dumpster and can't get it off his hands lol
I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls the plug or sells it to some third world company by 2030

>>77212283
And pre pandemic?

>>77212316
>Nowadays the /plg/ faggots have managed to turn the board into a single issue discourse, just weightlifting pretty much.
you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Every single real lifter on /plg/ left this site when it went down after the hack. It's nothing but a single spamming faggot and a handful of beginners in there now and has been for what, almost a year now? Even before that there were 10x the amount of leanfaggots spamming about "powershitters" completely unprompted in every thread on the board.

>>77212307
Browse /int/ for a few days. Americunts are worse than Mexicans, Brazilians, Indonesians and even Indians. It's probably generational, since it wasn't this bad back in the day.

Years ago it was called "fitness and health" and there plenty of sex and tinder threads and it was BASED
BECAUSE WE LIFT FOR PVSSY

>>77214236
mfw right eye is solving captchas while left eye lurks for stimulus

>>77214398
Leave figgy alone

>>77212303
>There should just be enough non-npcs who are banned for racism or telling trannies to kill themsleves
Based. Thanks for your service anonbro

>>77215137
samefag

Region block everywhere outside the anglosphere

>>77215191
That unfortunately includes Canada

this is true on every board
where did everyone go?

you should have to prove you lift to post here

>>77212283
I try to post well but I’m mostly occupied in /g/
Declining post count doesn’t bother me if the post quality doesn’t decrease

>>77215550
>if the post quality doesn’t decrease
But it did, now its just shitposts and engagement bait

>>77215217
I don’t think number of users has declined as hard as number of posts. It’s a function of adding friction to posting with the insane captchas. And waiting 60 seconds for your first post. It’s just not worth it to say “KEK” anymore. Every post has to be something really worth investing 2 minutes in which is an eternity for the ADHD brain rotted modern internet user

>>77213350
It's just powershitter crap and has probably contributed to more shit physiques than anything