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>Who is /fat/ for?
For Pantry Patrollers who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

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>>77213689
>85-81kg
>Look and feel disgustingly fat
>80kg
>WOOOOOSH and suddenly I look and feel normal
How? How does that one kg do such a difference?
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>>77213697
height?
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>>77213697
it's all in ya head mate
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>>77213697
Same thing happened to me when I was 87. I looked chopped. Now that I'm 90 I look like a landwhale

>>77213698
Pretty much
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>>77213697
>lighting
>angle
>type of mirror
>body dysmorphia
It could also be that all the fat came from an area you were hyper fixated on

I'm the same weight as I was 2 weeks ago but I look thinner. I'm in the middle of a body recomp.
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When do you start to feel skinny? I've lost 20 kg and still feel like I'm just as fat as when I started.
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Has anyone else tried chickpea pasta? It tastes like dirt but it is very filling, maybe even more than potatoes.
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>>77213708
When you buy new clothes because nothing fits.
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>>77213708
what is your weight and height?
started at 120kg, 185cm january last year and now at 91.5kg
i still feel like im too heavy but definitely not as fat as before but i guess lifting helps with that
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>>77213697
Probably just lost water weight that made you look bloated
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>>77213729
This. Butterfly moment of the month came yesterday after restricting carbs for three days.

>46.5 kg
>lowest since: 2 months ago

I actually thought I looked small. I'm anorexic - I never feel small!
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"graduated" from /fat/ in 2021, went from 126 kg to 74 kg and held it stable for quite a while. Starting around the Christmas feasts this year, followed by a Japan holiday etc I somehow bounced back to 81 over the past 4 months, so I felt it's probably best to return here until back to 74 instead of becoming fat again.

Hi fatties, been a while
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Have you ever experienced the "pang" of hunger? I’ve always felt drowsy and found myself opening the cabinet for a bowl of ramen when I’m truly hungry. Now that I’m aware of it I slip under my bedsheets for a short nap and the craving vanishes
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>>77213749
Also I’m a no-lifer low-effort and here’s the diet I’ve been following for the past three days:
Breakfast: An omelette, a cup of milk tea
Afternoon: Le milk tea
Dinner: An omelette, a slice of bread

I also sleep a lot. Two-thirds of my days are spent sleeping
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>>77213748
Xmas feasts this year are still months away. Did you get a brain ameba, Hiro?
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>>77213719
My clothes are getting looser but I can still wear them. I was going to wait until I get to my final weight to buy new clothes.

>>77213725
94 kg and 190 cm, started at around 115kg I'm trying to get to 80kg
I just started lifting so I barely have any muscles. So my bodyfat percent is still high. How many years does it take until you see weight lifting progress?
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Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 90.2 kg

Overall Progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU3Qx_ehp3I
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>>77213799
>Back over 90kg
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>>77213689
so, the nuns have finally decided to eat the ducks.. i can't say i'm surprised.
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>>77213799
Based Scatman John enjoyer
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>>77213804
This is drawn by that twitter edgelord who keeps bullying the blind girl isn't it?
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>>77213799
Dude fuck off we've told you not to post
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Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Fagvert
Weight: Eternally 90.2 kg

Overall Progress:
Fat to Fat

Motivational Song of the Day:
Bear Force One "Cum in my assss"
https://youtu.be/twQlpFrm5iM?si=R3rWopYIQLfhGidU
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>>77213848
>we
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>>77213859
You're allowed to use that pronoun when you're 300 lbs
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These threads are really stupid.

Just eat as much grilled chicken as you can stand, then when you are hungry again eat more chicken. Slip some steamed veggies in there occasionally and a multivitamin and electrolytes, and you are good to go.

I lost 20lbs CASUALLY in the last 3 months eating chicken. Like how is this even a fucking problem for you people? You will feel stuffed on meat long before you hit mx calories for the day, 1200 calories worth of chicken for a 200lb man did it.

How is anyone fat????
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>>77213859
>>77213861

Th-thanks guys. People always b-bully me because I am a bit slow...I know as long as I listen to my motivational music I will one day break my 6 month plateau of 90kg! In the meantime I will post my exact same weight daily effort post!
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Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbfRICVe4Co
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Is there a way to tell if im a creatine non-responder? I keep crushing it in my diet and exercise and my weight just hit a new low. I just started taking creatine 8 days ago. Shouldnt the scale be stalling for a couple weeks as I get water weight?
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Like how can I lose fat on every part of my body except the two i want to the most, my bitch tits and double chin, what the fuck
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>>77213875
They are some of the last to go, along with visceral fat. You need to keep going.
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>>77213869
Dude don't make fun of me
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>>77213689
Remember to always do keto. Don't be a flat calorie theorist (cico).
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>>77213871
what's your diet like? if you eat a lot of meat then you might already get enough creatine from your diet.
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>>77213866
You can easily get fat eating grilled chicken. You have to make sure that you don't use high cal sauces.
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>>77213884
As long as I hit 140g of protein I eat whatever I want as long as it stays at or under 2000 calories. Yeah I eat a lot of meat. Typically a steak a week
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>>77213708
I was always told to imagine yourself as a roll of paper towels. A new roll when removing the first few layers will not make all that much of a difference visually, however, the closer you get to the centre, the same number of sheets removed will make a much larger visual impact.

Just keep going!
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>>77213848
>>77213867
weird post
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>>77213883
Whoops, forgot the image.
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>>77213866
>eating chicken
we're too poor for chicken
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>>77213799
don't listen to that fucker. keep posting.
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>>77213926
Stop hating. I'll break my plateau any day now
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>>77213951
Thank buddy....drop disc and I can send some....private progress pics
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holy schizos
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>>77213708

>>77213871 here

I was 136 kg at my peak. After about 32kg lost then I felt "fit" and felt like I could talk to girls without grossing them out instantly. Still fat but im getting there. Now im lik 99.5kg and think I look and feel so much better and I am still continuing to lose. I also do resistance training at least 4 times per week. According to the measurement system in the OP I am around 27-29% bodyfat. So maybe there.
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>>77213952
i wish I could drop weight on 4k cals

keep it going my guy
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Fatty Contest
BetterNateThanLever
181.5 pounds

My progress has definitely gotten back on track. Also if I'm looking at the chart right this means I am finally no longer obese, just simply overweight. Yay.
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>>77213923
Never thought about it that way. Hopefully I can start to really notice the difference soon.

>>77213970
Maybe when I lose 10 more kilos I'll feel less fat. When I sit down it looks like I still just as much fat to lose as when I began.
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>>77214055
how did your progress get back on track?
asking for myself
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>>77214060
I lost control due to a combination of attending family gatherings with a lot of food and buying snacks thinking I could control myself around them. I could not. The family events are one thing, but for the latter I simply just resolved to not have any more junk in my house (i.e anything I could overeat on and jack up my calories tenfold). I also skip breakfast entirely and don't eat anything after 9PM.
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Even after a weekend of increased eating because I went out with friends and had some chicken wings, new Monday low.
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>>77214069
Stop being a bitch. If you didn't personally cook it, don't eat it. It's not that hard.
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>>77214110
There's no need to be rude.
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>>77214113
Fuck you
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Fatty Contest
BagOMilk
185.8lbs
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You may not like it, but:
WAGMI
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>>77214134
u say this but i weighed in at the exact same weight as last monday, i didnt lose shit
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>>77214137
It's okay it's a slow pace of small improvements braza I've gained like 6 lbs since my lowest weight 2 months ago but I'm putting on mad muscle surely.
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back on the weight loss train, stopped tracking calories and watching what I ate back in september and gained back less than 20lbs, still down a net of 35lbs.
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>bmi is almost overweight
>do have some muscle though so it's not all fat
>still hate my flabby gut

My problem is I can't stick to a diet. As soon as I'm tempted to snack I just convince myself I'm not that fat so I can fuck up my diet

Should I just stay as am I?
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>>77214145
post body
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>>77214169
no, you dumb, fat, faggot, nigger loving, BBC posting, Indian, nigger bitch.
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Are russet potatoes a lot more calorie dense than new potatoes for some reason
Some listings have them the same calories
But others have a baked russet at about 1.5x times the calories
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>>77214180
>8 oz new potatoes
>160 calories
>8oz russet
>300 calories
How
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>>77214177
post body
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>>77214182
Would you rather have 5.3 oz on potatoes for 110 calories
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>>77214145
>I just convince myself I'm not that fat
Life begins at 15% body fat, if you're not 15% yet you're still a disgusting fatty, regardless of what your bmi chart says.
Eat less fatty.
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>>77213697
Happens to me to. I was 80.5kg friday and just weighed in at 82kg, I can tell it's water retention because my face looks puffy and less defined. Crazy how big of a difference 1kg of water can make.
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>>77213708
You start to look skinny when your bmi hits the lower end of normal and below. If you have fat on your lower back/sides you're still fat no matter what people tell you.
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>>77214189
Or 5 ounces for 180
Tf is going on lol
I’m just gonna treat them like new potatoes idk why russet is raping every app and google search
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>>77213867
Why not just eat less?
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>>77214140
>putting on mad muscle surely
this is what I keep telling myself but I swear i'm just getting fat again kek
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>>77214209
NTA but my neighbor commented on my muscle, he asked if I had been working out, he said it shows. I lost a lot of weight last year, like 80lbs and I've been plateauing on weight for months now, but it seems at least to my neighbor that some of that is me gaining muscle. So swinging those weights around wasn't a complete waste of time. Its hard to notice the changes yourself since they're so gradual.
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i hate my disgusting potbelly so much it's unreal
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>>77214197
Think I've come to the conclusion it's worth it just so I can stop being in this annoying limbo
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>>77214209
I feel like I can always cut fat again since I've done it before. At the moment I really want to see if I can get to 3 plate bench or bw ohp.
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woke up dead tired today. barely exercised yesterday cause my muscles ached bad from the day before, so I did light yoga and thats it. Ate the calorie limit and only whole foods and hit macros and micros, drank plenty of water got 8 hrs at least. What the fuck mang.
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Fatty Contest
oldskinnyfatbastard
171.8 lbs
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>>77214256
I also was working on my marksmanship for an hour but thats not really exercise its just loud and tiring.
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>>77214256
It's Hitler's birthday, so you should be energized- unless, perhaps, you're a jew.
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>>77213689
Started at 400. I'm down to 328 purely off dieting and walking. At what point can I start going to the gym? I held it off until now because I didn't want to fuck up my joints but I think I'm ready. I want to lift weights and get some fucking muscle
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>>77214281
As soon as possible the main factors of retaining muscle during weightloss are: protein intake, and using the muscles you don't want to atrophy. You are also fat enough to build muscle during a caloric deficit. It gets harder the lower your body fat and the greater your training age.
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>ate 2 instant noodle packs
>couldn't shit properly for a week
>now my shits stink so bad
what the fuck do they put in those things?
and what the fuck are other low effort low cost alternatives?
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>>77214281
just don't be retarded while lifting and start light.
make sure your form is perfect and immediately stop if you feel any pain.
people mostly fuck themselves up doing deadlifts and squats. be extra careful with them.
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Fatty Contest
JourneyTo155
199.7lbs
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>>77214274
I’m not a jew. Might have just not eaten enough. I know I’m supposed to be a little hungry but I might’ve taken it too far.
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>250 feels bretty good
Might have 255 in me.
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>>77214311
>arched back
cheater
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>Start smoking a few cigs a day
>Losing weight without even thinking about it

Why did weight loss general not tell me about this cheat code?
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I keep making chicken and potatoes for meal prep
Easy, filling, etc
But Im getting kinda bored of generic spicy chicken, what's another easier low cal way to prepare that is not simple searing with salt and pepper lol
Potatoes I just load with tons of paprika and bake / air fry
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>>77214320
should use the pouches instead, your lungs will thank you

but for me nicotine gives me insomnia so I can't fuck with it but it's amazing for hunger cravings. I think black coffee is good too
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>>77214320
but ur lungs
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>>77214320
>robbing Peter to pay Paul
It's not worth it.
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Only 25 more lbs until my real life begins
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>>77214344
>laptop open to Facebook and not 4chan
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Better to go through a bit of hell to reach heaven than to spend an eternity in purgatory.
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>>77214326
lemon pepper. yeah I know it aint much better.
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Can someone give me a step by step retard guide to cooking chicken in a pan
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>>77214355
dont and use the oven
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>>77214355
I guess you mean chicken breast
Tenderize it so it's an even width and cook it in the oven at 220c for 18 minutes and not a second more

Also look into marinades
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>>77214355
honestly i put it in a zip lock, smack it enough to tenderize/flatten it, put a TINY bit of olive oil and my spices in and rub it all around to coat it evenly, then just throw it on a skillet and cook it until its done. Works well enough
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while we’re on chicken recipes, lemme redpill you all on brining. chicken breast, or really any part of the chicken, no marinades needed, just saltwater in a mixing bowl or jar or whatever. About as salty as seawater, maybe slightly less, submerge the chicken for 3-5 hours, nothing else needed. No matter how you cook it after its gonna be much more tender and the flavor will be better. I just spice it, put on an oven rack and bake.
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>>77214372
its worth mentioning, I’ve only done this with the white meat, I don’t know if it works with dark meat but honestly you probably dont need it for that
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>>77214372
Even better just buy frozen chicken breast it's pre brined I just stick in in the oven for an hour and 20 minutes and it's delicious.
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>>77214379
I’ve never seen prebrined in the store but sure why not. It really does make a difference and its how restaurants all get their chicken to taste good.
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>>77214360
>oven
>>77214364
>oven at 220c
>>77214379
>oven for an hour and 20 minutes
why oven instead of pan?
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>>77214385
my personal reason: pan frying gets cooking oil everywhere and requires babysitting. for oven I can just throw it in and forget about it. getting a crust and making pan sauce is one reason to use a pan but for cooking chicken in any reasonably healthy way its not necessary.

Steaks you should either start or finish in a pan, for chicken you’re just making a mess for no reason.
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>>77214384
Most of the frozen ones say 15% brine by weight or something to that effect.
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>>77214385
Oven because I make a bunch at a time and just chop up veg everyday and grab a breast I already cooked for my OMAD
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>>77214355
>defrost chicken
>pat it dry on both sides with paper towels
>season, usually salt, pepper, garlic as a base then add other spices of choosing: italian season, cumin, paprika, cayenne, etc
>Either cook breast whole or cube
>preheat pan
>oil pan, preferably with spray oil for dieting otherwise be careful
>let oil get hot
>using tongs or something drop chicken in pan lightly, if it doesn't sizzle, pan is not hot enough
>add enough chicken to cover the pan, but with there being at least some space between pieces, otherwise itll get too cold / uneven browing less flavor / too much water and it boils instead of sears
>cook in batches if you need to
>dont touch the chicken for about 3-4 minutes
>flip, should have a nice sear
>Id say 1-2 minutes on the other side, depends on the thickness of you cubes, for whole breasts cook longer
>make a pan sauce or make some sort of glaze, butter and hot sauce work, light cream cheese with spices work, honey and hot sauce work too - all of these should barely add calories and add a lot of flavor if you are prepping for a week (as in, it's calories added divided by 5 so.....)
enjoy
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>>77213748
First day done: 1477 kcal in, 2370 kcal out, roughly 5 weeks to go
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>>77213697
yeah lyle macdonald wrote about that squishy fat stall than pounds drop
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Former fatties (40kg+ overweight). How many inches of dick did you gain after losing all that weight?
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>>77214443
Literally two inches.
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>>77214443
My dick grew backwards and now I have a vagina.
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oh cool, are we measuring dicks again?
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Fatty Contest
iwannaflyhigh
141.1

Got a cold and had a religious experience. Living now more in tune with my whole self and the universe. Eating been all over the place as i settle into a kore natural rhythm instead of the one ive been forcing. No longer feeling gross when i eat or cucked by the sun and clocks. Still gotta watch my caffeine intake and avoid eating close to sleep time. Looking forward to going out again and easy fatloss.
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man new potatoes are always covered in eyes, things that look like giant calluses or just full of black cut marks
what the fuck gotta trash so much of them
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>lost 3 lbs in a month at 1500 cal daily
does this seem right? I’m having trouble believing this number. I’ve had slip ups but never ate above maintenance and I’ve been exercising regularly
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>>77214514
3 lbs in a month is 10500 calories deficit, or 350 calorie deficit a day.

pretty slow, it's the kind of deficit youtube influencers promote, but not the chuds on 4chan (more like 1000 cal deficit here)
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Saw a thread on another board discussing nudism. What do you think, would it motivate people to get fit or would they just flaunt their disgusting bodies and nothing can make people change? If there was a law enforcing public nudity would you personally never eat another cookie?
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>>77214520
Alright when its put like that it sounds more believable. I thought my deficit was closer to 500 just with calories burned on exercise but maybe not.
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>>77214527
I mean it's slow, you definitely ate more than 1500 calories a day on average unless you're very short.
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>>77214526
Dont know about public nudity but I look at myself naked in the mirror and spend alot of time shirtless to cultivate self hatred/motivation
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>>77214527
been out of this for years but back then (4-5 years ago) the general consensus was to simply not take exercise calories into account and treat them as a bonus, due to the many unreliabilities and overestimations of the various ways to calculate exercise calories.

Like whatever app you're using might tell you you've burned 500 kcal when you've burned 100, simply to keep you motivated, or because we don't know any better. I don't know if this has changed since then, but it sounds like this might be the issue.
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>>77214533
you ever force yourself to go out in shirts too tight/unflattering to motivate yourself off the shame you get in public?
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>>77214531
I did, not gonna lie. I had some hiccups adjusing to the new diet. mostly fast food, things like panda express and pollo tropical. I’m not trusting the calorie counters on there anymore. gonna skip lunch, get breakfast at home and eat when I get back from work. no take out period.
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starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8
current weight: 84.1 kg 20/4
goal weight: 70 kg
height: 179 cm

method: rolling 72s with water and coffee, starting on 18/1 to 2/3 i did rolling 48s.
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>>77214534
I’ve resolved to doing that too. apps are all wrong on TDEE myfitnesspal said my maintenance was 2300. I’m fortunately smart enough to know thats not fuckin true and I dont burn 300 cal on average a day with “light exercise.”
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>>77214531
also I do prioritize macros over the deficit. If I’m short on protein I’ll say fuck it and eat a can of tuna or 2. I can’t afford to lose muscle I don’t have a lot of it.
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Fatty Contest
The O
186.3
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>>77214551
You're so close, hope you finally make that push and get past the wall.
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>>77214548
I'm doing about 1500 calories right now too. It can be challenging sometimes to hit macros, but it's feasable.

for proteins I swapped milk in my cereals with greek yogourt. I get chicken breasts / beef and cans of pink salmon I also eat daily for brotein.

Cottage cheese also helps.

But yeah fast food will kill your calorie goal for the day, I stay away from that except for some social occasions.
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>>77214535
Nah public shame toes the line of sort of fetish. Internal motivation is enough for me.
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anyone successfully lose weight while drinking alcohol still?
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what sort of shit should i put on my chicken this week
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>>77214570
I had one margarita and still lost weight. Alcohol is kind of gay tho.
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>>77214551
Your scale has a 1000s digit? WTF
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>>77214344
Unironically so. Since I lost weight I get more respect from coworkers and strangers, socializing is easier and i get more attention from women. Not to say I'm chadded, but people in general will treat you much more favorably when you're fit.
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>>77214570
Nope, alcohol is 50% of the reason I'm fat. As soon as I quit drinking I started losing consistently.
>t. Alcoholic
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>>77214555
I did back in October, but man it was rough, I was not comfortable at 170 at all. My goal when I started was 180, I hit that and my goal this year was to just stay around 180ish and not immediately start to gain it all back, and that's almost been as hard as losing it in the first place. I could try it again, I am a lot fitter now than I was in October, my lifts have gone up considerably since then and I can run around my entire block without getting winded / stopping to catch my breath now which was not the case when I first hit 180, so maybe a another push to 170 is warranted now. I'm just really comfortable right now so I'm hesitant to get my head back in the game.

>>77214590
Its the 'RENPHO 550lb Scale' I don't know why it has that 1000s place digit, I got an one for extra fat fatties because I had no idea just how fat I was and a lot of the digital scales were like "300lb max capacity" and I was like, yeah... I'm probably more than that...
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Aside from jealous comments what downsides would there be to fasting for 6 months instead of dieting for 2 years?
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>>77214180
Are you talking canned potatoes in water? It's probably a combination of the potatoes taking on water weight and leeching starch into the water you drain off. Fresh red/white potatoes are only a teensy bit lower in calories per 100g than russets,
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what app do you guys use to log your calories?
i've been using lose it but suddenly it changed my calorie budget and now wants me to pay to make a "custom" budget ?!
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Is the potato diet legit? Could I just toss one in the oven once a day and not have to worry about my macros?
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what can i mix whey protein with instead of just water?
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>>77214644
Nobody is going to be jealous until you actually do it.
Biggest downside of fasting for longer than couple of days is that you might get light headed, faint and bonk your head. There isn't much upside if any for instead doing something like few days fast - eat - fast again type pattern.
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>>77214668
+having to put the rest of your life on halt. Though of course there are people who claim they can function just as well when fasted as if they weren't.
I can't do that but maybe I'm not fat enough.
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>>77214659
there's a reason meat and potatoes has been the staple human diet for centuries
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>>77214660
grum
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>>77214396
Good guide but I'd say use olive oil instead of spray since spray always contains onions. Just account for the tbsp of olive oil or whatever. Olive oil is good for you and also doesn't crass pants like spray tends to do over time.
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>>77214660
your own urine
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>>77214281
Your joints will be fine for lifts, maybe just avoid high impact cardio and squats. You could use the squat machine if they got one so you're not lifting your whole body weight.
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>>77214698
>>77214688
So is there an actual /fit/ general or am I stuck here with you unhappy piles of lard? Even if by some luck you do manage to lose weight, enjoy excess skin and man tits
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>>77214705
>he doesn't recycle his urine for peak nutrient extraction
Boy some people just don't want to be helped.
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All this talk of fasting maybe someone should start the fasting general back up. I remember there being some good discussion going on.
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>>77214697
>onions
You know what I mean
>crass pants
I meant PANS
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>>77214705
Bro just use milk. Why does the idea of adding milk protein to water even pop into your head? It's barely tolerable with milk as it is.
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>>77214526
yes 100%
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>>77214281
I'm in a similar boat, peaked at 400 but currently down to 324. I'm wondering how much more I need to lose before I can get myself a bicycle.
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Anyone remember the Norwigean guy who bought $400 worth of sugar slop back in November for his family, underlining how he won't have any? Did he died?

Where's the Dr. Now guy? I read he pigged out, is be back on the wagon?
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>>77214736
>pizza is not part of this users diet
>califlour crust
>low fat cheese
>chicken/mushrooms/peppers/onions/ground beef topping
I don't see the problem with pizza.
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>>77214712
I don't think we need to split, but maybe add a fasting guide in the OP.
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>>77214741
Or just eat a pizza
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I sinned and ate a whole plate of chicken shawarma. On the other hand I'm so full I'm probably not eating for next 24 hours so I can pretend I'm on OMAD today.
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>>77214741
Pizza is the reason you're learning basket weaving from a thainese child trafficing bbs
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>>77214759
Actually it's mostly because of burgers and mt dew and chips. God I love chips, the crunch, the tang. UUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGG I NEED THEM
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>>77214750
As long as it's within your calorie budget it's not a sin. On my work days I'll have maybe 200cal of something in the morning and not eat anything else until I get home since I work better on a relatively empty stomach.
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Here's a simple as fuck keto diet. Same thing everyday. Its what I'm doing now. Either eat everything in one meal at 5PM or split into two meals with the first in the morning before you leave. Supplement vitamin D, creatine, fish oil, and whatever else you want.

80 g Ground Flax Seeds
260 g Non-Fat Greek Yogurt
20 g Protein Powder
60 g Peanut Butter

340 g Boiled Spinach
10g Frying Oil (Avocado Preferred)
10 Large Eggs
Salt

This covers literally everything you need including a shitton of magnesium.
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>>77214764
Ok...
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>>77214773
What happens if he fails a rep?
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>>77214772
That sounds horrific, if I had to eat like that every day I would rather just die.
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I decided to buy a new scale just cause I’ve had my old for many years. I tested it out and there’s a 10 lb difference between my old scale and new scale. I decided to use the scale at the gym and the number was a lot closer to the number on the new scale.

What should I do for my weight tracking progress? Since apparently the number I started out at is 10lbs heavier than what I actually was.
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>>77214781
Obviously go with what the new scale says. How is this even a question?
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>>77214777
Life is suffering. You have to accept it. Think about what your ancestors had to go through for you to be here.
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>>77214775
He doesn't. Murderface could, it'd only suit him.
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>>77214765
I've no clue on calories, website says 800 but ain't no fucking way, it's probably at LEAST double that.

>>77214772
That's a lot of eggs
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>>77214772
What happens if you don't eat all the eggs?
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>>77214772
Thought I'd include the macros:
143g Protein
127g Fat
40g Carbs (non-fiber)
28g Fiber
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>>77214798
Then eat something else. I just don't want to cook meat everyday. Eggs are a high quality protein, very nutritious, and easy to cook.
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>>77214805
Eggs are meat but it was a joke and you missed it. Anyways thats a nice diet but too expensive. A dozen eggs a day alone is 6-8 dollars not to mention the other stuff you're spending 900 dollars a month on food which is insane.
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Got myself one of those veggie choppers.
Now I can chop up two potatoes, season them, hit a very light spray of avocado oil, and put them in the air fryer.
I am happy.
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>>77214817
The problem with those kind of contraptions is the blades dull quickly and replacing them is a pain and expensive. Just get a nice chefs knife and keep it sharp. It pays for itself.
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How loose will my skin be if I start losing weight at 36 yo? I'm 179cm 105kg, want to be around 70kg. I heard losing weight fast will make things worse
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>>77214819
I got the chopper because I have nerve damage in my hands and I don't trust myself when trying to dice things with a knife.
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>>77214824
That's fine, it's what those kind of things were made for. Hope it lasts a while and works out for you.
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>>77214786
No I meant for my past data. Was gonna ask if I should adjust all the numbers, but that's probably unnecessary. Making this a bigger deal than it is
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>>77214826
The past is the past, move on and embrace your new numbers
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>>77214825
Yeah, luckily it was only like 30 bucks, so if it doesn't last too long, oh well.
I'm just glad to have the ability to dice things up now because I'll be more inclined to add veg to my meal prep.
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>>77214828
I guess this means that I never officially hit 300 lbs, but I should still thank my old scale. Seeing that 300lb number on it was what finally got my ass in motion. Regardless, so far I'm down -15 lbs
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>>77214830
I had contemplated the idea of baking a bunch of potatoes and then chilling them whole and then dicing them and storing them in airtight containers in the freezer so I could just grab a handful whenever and have a convenient substitute for bread/rice/pasta. I really should try that I think it would work well.
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>>77214812
The total cost is $7 per day. Most expensive item is the spinach. I used online prices.
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>>77214838
I don't know what indian sewer you are sourcing your eggs from but in civilized countries you aren't even getting a dozen good eggs for 7 dollars. Let alone all those other ingredients.
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>>77214841
Here's your eggs.
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>>77213689
>146lbs
>5'6"
>been cutting 500kcal / day for a few weeks
>eating 166g protein daily
This is hell, and it stinks (literally). Just need to make it through May.
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>>77214842
>amazon
I said good eggs but whatever I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing. Glad it's working for you friend.
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>>77214843
How low are you trying to go sis? Keep it up and you'll have that bikini body in time.
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>>77214847
Thanks, bro. Body weight gets weird when you're a manlet.
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>>77214846
There are so many things that are more important for your health than which eggs you're eating. The eggs are going to make minute difference.
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>>77214772
gay
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my progress after starting weight loss and gym in August 2025. starting weight was 132kg, i'm 91kg now. mostly ketogenic (still high protein with moderate to high fat, 20g net carb daily) with a calorie target of 2000 per day, upped to 2650 about 3-4 weeks ago (still mostly low carb but carbs are now around 40g net) . i had my hormones tested and they were on the low side of normal which my dr attributed to just not eating enough food. i'm trying to find my maintenance and it's probably more but i want to lose a bit more fat.
i would have thought that after this long i'd have a bit more muscle growth. i train hard 4 days a week and never skip days, there's noticeable improvement in lifts since i track everything but i think i'm over training. my gym sessions are too long and i don't have enough recovery. i'm reading about cortisol suppressing hormone production and i think that's what's inhibiting my growth
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I'm shocked that 2 miles jogging is only 200 calories. When I get back I eat an apple and an orange and that's basically the same calories I just burned.
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is there a site to see what people of your height and weight look like? people that aren't bodybuilders I mean
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>>77214874
You really gotta add you're like 6'5 if you want people to believe that pic is you at 200lbs. Bu good job. You might want to try dropping keto entirely and going to a normal mixed diet but still in a good calorie range, that might help your gym sessions.
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>>77214889
i'm 6'3. it really is me at that weight. tried adding more carbs but my body is just not used to them at all and it fucked with my stomach and energy levels. also my sleep. i know i'd have to keep at it for weeks but after nearly 2 i just said fuck it and went back to low carb
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>>77214890
Hmm, your older pics are very similar to mine, I'm 6'4, ~106kg now, bigger fat% than you (~3%), a lot more lean mass as well. You don't look like you've been fat for too long. How are your legs doing?
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>>77214894
I was fat for less than a year maybe but I cycle a lot over the years. hopefully this will be the last time i yo-yo since i've incorporate consistent gym for the first time in my life pretty much
legs are good, i'm maxing out some of the machines like leg extensions and seated leg presses. squats are something i've added a few weeks ago and are rough, trying to move away from machine stuff
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>>77214843
Stinky shits is a sign that you're not fully digesting all of the protein and it's starting to decay instead while still inside you.

This is actually, le bad, and you need to supplement fiber accordingly before your new "healthy" diet ends up fucking up your gi tract.
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>>77213689
I could do with a tick bite and getting some alpha gal syndrome. I only need to lose 20 lbs but ice cream and cheeseburgers are my weakness. Red meat causes colon cancer anyway.
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>>77214900
It's not usually this bad, to be fair, but I'm targeting a higher protein level during the cut. I'll look into fiber to see if it'll help. The tip is appreciated.
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how do I know if I'm hitting failure or cardio failure?
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I'm hating working out more than running. I think I'm finally doing it right.
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>>77214901
>I could do with a tick bite and getting some alpha gal syndrome. I only need to lose 20 lbs but ice cream and cheeseburgers are my weakness. Red meat causes colon cancer anyway.
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>>77213825
No, just an artist using their characters, their handle is in the upper left, you can see who it is.
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>>77214823
no one can say, depends on what your skin is like and how you carry your weight. this is not 100% reliable but imo if you have distinct flabby hanging rolls, you're more likely to have loose skin. more stretch marks also points in the direction of loose skin. i don't think speed of weight loss matters for this.
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>>77214823
Loose skin depends entirely on what food you eat.

Do carnivore and you will not get loose skin. Pic related.
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>be fat all my life
>distinctly remember hitting over 230lbs when I was in Middle School
>weigh myself and hit 390lbs as an adult, and try keto diet
>keto works but I fucked it up by having a cheat day due to feeling like shit, not knowing the cheat day pretty much undid the entire process
>end up losing about 40lbs in about 4 months
>2024, weigh in at 410lbs
>someone I know goes to a place that injects them with some shit to kill appetite and gives them a keto diet
>tell someone else that the injection is bullshit because keto alone was likely the responsible one for weight loss
>to prove them wrong I start keto again but this time I make no mistakes
>lose about 15lbs in a month but start feeling like shit again, even more so when I tried going out for walks since my stomach would burn like hell
>drop keto and just start walking
>from walking, I would jog for short bursts. Track near me has .33 mile laps, and I would maybe jog 10 - 15 second bursts like two to three times per lap
>go from going out to walk every three days, to daily due to having some type of ocd that makes me HAVE to go out to walk
>fast forward to now
>weigh in at 225lbs last week, technically not obese anymore, just overweight
>jog 8 miles non-stop daily
>started weights almost a year ago and have noticeable muscle in arms, chest, and shoulders
I feel a lot better but I have to say that a pretty bad negative is that when I do push-ups shirtless, most of my torso skin hangs a few inches. I figure that with the muscle and loose skin, I probably am a bit closer to my ideal weight (like 185lbs) so I'm wondering if I should look into getting the skin removed or wait until I reach my goal weight. At the very least, when I stand the skin is not noticeable and my arms look way better than they did before I started losing weight, that shit would hang as well mostly around the biceps.
How many pounds would noticeable muscle and loose skin add?
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>>77215008
retarded
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>>77215012
Yeah, cico is retarded. All that effort just to have loose skin.
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>>77214846
you can be broke or you can be picky, not both.
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>>77215008
Bait used to be believable.
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I play video games to help distract me from the Mongolian hunger pangs
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>>77215033
It's not bait. Her name is Kelly Hogan. Look her up.

Unlimited calorie carnivore. No loose skin.

Loose skin, like obesity, is caused by believing in CICO.
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>>77215048
You have convinced me. I'm going to eat 5lbs of bacon a day from now on thanks famsquad.
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It’s crazy ketobro has been farming (you)s here for over four years now
You guys never learn
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>>77214874
How old are you? How's the loose skin situation? Looks good on the photo but maybe it's hiding somewhere?
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>>77215011
If your skin isn't just a little thin flap like >>77215008 this guy then you still have plenty of fat to lose.
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>>77215048
>>77215008

I really only like eating meat once a week on my cheat day because I get so gasy and my farts smell like hell with meat
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>>77215112
rabbit paws typed this post
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>>77215115
I'm serious I wish I could eat meat more regularly without feeling and smelling like shit the next day
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>>77215060
it's hilarious, imagine being that starved for human interaction that you spend your time arguing with a crazy person
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>>77215054
You're welcome, friend. Unlimited bacon is a great weight loss diet.

>I expected that even though I was eating 2500 calories a day, an increase of 500 calories a day for me, that I would not gain much weight, I already knew that eating fat and protein doesn't make you fat.
>The biggest and most unexpected change was losing so much body fat in the 30 days. I lost 19.6 pounds by the end of the month
https://ketogasm.com/the-bacon-experiment-interview/
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>>77215108
i'm 37
there is some loose skin on my stomach which is noticeable if i pinch or sit down. its either loose skin or just fat i dunno. but there's well defined stretch marks
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>>77215129
Going on the internet and telling lies.
>wow.png
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I tried getting candy from a vending machine and it jammed but still took my money. Is this divine intervention telling me to stick to my diet?
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>>77215129
What good does losing weight do if you speed run cancer?
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>>77215131
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>>77215111
Alright, good to know. I'll just keep losing until I'm somewhere under 195lbs. Hope there's payment plans or something to help finance it, because I'm guessing it's over 10k at least. I'd hate to drop that money at once.
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>>77215148
Nice try, vegan.

Meat consumption increases longevity.
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I'm really considering taking up another, more potent addiction as a means to an end. I don't do anything besides eat food and drink water, no drugs or alcohol. I feel like I've never seen a fat cigarette smoker, heroin junkie or meth head. They're all skinny as a rail. The other addictions don't allow room for food addiction. Think about it it would be like setting off a bomb to put out a fire.
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>>77215153
I know you're just trolling but we were specifically talking about bacon which has been studied plenty and cured meats have confirmed effects on the body.
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>>77215155
I'm probably addicted to coffee (I haven't tried stopping) and it surely isn't as bad as junk food or smoking. As a bonus it's a pretty good appetite suppressant.

>>77215161
>I know you're just trolling
Then why are you giving him attention?
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>>77215164
>coffee
Not good enough. It's a lower dopamine response than eating fatty and sugary junk food. It has to be at the very least cigarettes.
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>>77215147
If you need sweets, get honey, not goy poison.
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anyone ever experience increased hair shedding after a big calorie deficit? how long does it last
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>>77215155
You'd be trading stank, diabetes, blood pressure, cholesterol, heart disease, liver disease, joint pain, strokes and cancer for stank, diabetes, lung disease, heart disease, strokes and cancer!
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the insomnia is back.
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>>77213866
What if we dont have a grill, eh? what now smarty?
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>>77214396
Good guide but you should butterfly chicken or pound it out to flatten it out, else cooking it will be a litle fucked.

Chicken thigh is dope too.
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Is it normal to have insomnia while fasting?
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>>77215277
Yeah at least for me it happens. It's frustrating and I never found a way to really get rid of it but it sort of comes and goes in strength, some nights weren't so bad.
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It is a fasting day
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What the fuck my ass hurts now when I try to sit for longer durations
I want my fat cushion back
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>>77213689
That looks like the mean girl from the little blind girl comics. Kinda similar art style too
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I work as a janitor Monday to Friday and lift ice bags on Sunday
Why doesn't this count as workout? My back, hips and feet definitely feel it
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redpill me on tuna
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Anybody here have done something extreme like starvation? How did it go?
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Any good ways to incorporate chia seeds into my diet? Tried a tablespoon with a packet of instant oatmeal and it's fine but I'm gonna get sick of oatmeal soon enough at the rate I've been eating it.
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>35 weeks in
>16 kg down from 100 at 175cm
>bodyfat down to 27% from 38% (supposedly, I know scales and watches lie about that)
>all lifts improving
>recomp working

feels good man, might actually stick to it this time. I already look better than I did even at lower weights, plus gym is fun as hell, I don't even need motivation anymore. Gonna bulk when I hit 70-75kg depending on how my gut looks.

Also is basing your protein on goal lean mass really enough? Right now I do 1.6-1.8g per kg of my current, full mass.
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>>77215395
Maybe now your ass is small enough to comfortably fit on a butt cushion.
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fatty contest
MT_FATSO
104.2kg
176cm
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Fatty Contest
Name: Joey
Weight: 299 lbs
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Controversial take:
The only exercises you need as a fattie is some sort of high intensity cardio and working out biceps/triceps/forearms/shoulders until you lose the fat via dieting and just moving around more.

>WHY!?
Working out your legs, chest and legs will just make you look bigger. This is especially true for the chest which will give you even bigger manboobs. Also when you are really fat, you will have horrible balance/cardio and your fat will be in the way of your lifts, making you have horrible technique and most likely injuring yourself. Go down to 25% body fat before doing compound exercises.

Working out arms will make you look better while losing weight, the worst look is being fat with small arms. It will also improve grip strength so that you will do your compound exercises better.
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>>77213825
yes
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>>77215573
I think you're overestimating how much muscle you can build on a caloric deficit.
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>>77215594
If you're a fat newbie, it can be. Regardless you will be stronger in your hands/arms which is essential for compound lifts.
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>not even halfway through the day
>1,400 calories
aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie
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>>77215627
I mean saying you will have manboobs and large legs because you build muscle there is funny. What will more likely happen is you will lose the weight and end up looking like a disproportionate freak.
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Man fuck blackberries
They’re like chewing rocks
Plus these mixed berries I got from Walmart are shower
Tf man
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Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 90.05 kg

Overall Progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfIwmtJXB2U
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>>77215648
Produce we have in America is foul 80% of the time
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>>77215672
What? speak for yourself, buddy.
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>>77214899
Your t-levels might fluctuate just like your weight has. There's really no hurry to leave the machines, I'd recommend maxing leg presses. The stimulus to t-levels is nice. You can also do sets in multiple different foot placings, so you basicly have to only supplement with curls and abductors.
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Should I lower my calories the more weight I lose? I started at a 1000 cal deficit and now its 750. I stayed at the same calorie intake but I can tell that I am losing less fat now.
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>>77215692
You shouldn't bother with estimating calories. Getting lean is all about carb consumption. Eliminate carbs and eat protein and fat to satiety.
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>>77215647
Working out legs/chest/back doesn't make you lose weight.
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>>77215698
Being in a calorie deficit is the only method that works. I don't think eating as much fried cheese, microwave bacon, and chicken tenders with chick-fil-a sauce as I can possibly eat every day would let me lose weight.
I already tried the low fat (less than 10g a day) and low sodium (less than 250mg a day) meme diets and felt like I was dying. The eat as many cheese sticks and chicken tendies as I can meme diet sounds tasty though.
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Fatty Contest
Napoli
72.9kg

I'm going vegan this week because of OPs picrel
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>>77215698
post body with timestamp
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>>77215720
without fail: the people who insist it doesn't work have not tried it
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>>77215752
and the one anon who does say it works won't show that they were in a calorie surplus and still lost weight
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>>77215720
"Calorie deficit" is the same thing as "weight loss". You're just referring to measurements. It's linguistic trickery.

When you lose body fat you can measure the body fat by weight, energy, volume, and many other measurements. The measurements are not causative. They are just observations of the effect.

If someone told you that you needed to be in a "waist circumference deficit" would you start tracking the circumference of the food you eat?

The causative factor is hormones. To lose body fat you need to lower your fattening hormones. The way to lower your fattening hormones is quitting carbs.

Estimating calories and tracking them in a diary is a waste of time and counterproductive.
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>>77215752
Everyone tries CICO ever since Sugar Information Inc memed it into existence. It doesn't work.

Falling for the calorie hoax is what caused the obesity epidemic.

Before anyone heard of the calorie measurement they were all lean.
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>>77215770
if you have zero experience why should I care about your opinion?
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>>77215708
it doesnt make you grow manboobs either
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>>77215776
before anyone heard of a calorie measurement they were walking and doing much more physical labor
people driving everywhere is the biggest problem
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>>77215787
The brain uses more energy than any organ in the body. Nobody tells you to read a book to get lean.

Sedentary Americans use just as much energy as tribal people who walk all day. Additive DEE is a myth. Pic related.

You're fat because you fell for the sugar industry's calorie hoax.
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>>77215792
I'm not fat.
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>>77215793
Post body.
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>>77215794
You sound upset. Is it because you're wrong?
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>>77215772
>The causative factor is hormones.
this

A fat cell does not know how many calories the human has eaten or is expending. All it does is react to various signaling molecules and hormones which tell it to release or store.
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>>77215797
You sound fat
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>>77215448
canned tuna is dollar for gram probably one of the best lean protein sources you can get that doesn't taste atrocious nor is it non-food like goypowder
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78.0 kg this morning.
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>>77214355
little fat in the skillet, put the dial to 6 in terms of heat
place your chicken cut in the pan when hot
cover with lid
let cook for 5 mins, flip, let cook 3 more. Done.
you can always poke chicken with a toothpick to see if it's done if you're worried.
if the juices run clear, it's done, if not clear cook another 2 mins or so.
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>>77215811
k
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>>77215883
>no timestamp
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>>77214083
Hope you had fun with your friends. Everybody needs a little fun.
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Fatty Contest
JourneyTo155
194.1lbs
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>>77215698
Can you stop troll posting in threads designed to help people
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>>77214874
you look amazing! really great job anon
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>>77215888
I'm too lazy to take another pic
here's the timestamp I made last month >>77181346
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>>77215908
Nice gut, fatty.
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>>77215909
nice 12 inch arms lol
is that the power of keto?
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>>77215912
Your arms are encased in fat just like your gut that you tried to hide with your "cico" paper.
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>>77215811
What does this prove exactly
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should I post an image of my scale when joining the fatty contest?
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>>77215916
that if you're a 26 year old skinnyfat ketard you can lose 5 lbs and make your body look 60 years old with bad skin and no pectorals. if you do CICO you can actually lose weight.
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>>77215916
People who believe flat calorie theory have worse results with more effort.
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>>77215926
Listen here bb, I don't care about any of your studies unless you can post your own personal before and after with results. What's the point of all that information if you can't personally put it into practice.
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>>77215914
not only do you barely have any muscle, you look genuinely malnourished dude. I urge you to eat some vegetables once in a while.
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>>77215926
How does this picture prove that
It’s as useful as a copy pasta
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Trying, and probably failing, to start a keto diet.

I know I'm low-carb, at least, but not strict keto yet since: I occasionally have carbs like tortillas in a quesadilla or sugar/carbs from flavored Greek yogurt.

I'm making strides in eliminating all sweet, pops and carb centric items like bread, rice, ect while prioritizing protein and fats and even switching to unsweetened almond milk. I know this diet will work for me in time, especially if I keep exercising on a deficit but it's not as clean as I'd like it.
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>>77215977
Don’t get all worried about exactly how keto you are
Carbs, especially fibrous ones, will help you energy levels (unless you’re legit in ACTUAL ketosis)
As well as helping your cravings from not spiking blood sugar and protein being more filling
Eat like a philosophy really not some strict rule to lose sleep over you’ll get used to it
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>>77215977
not fully keto but probably for the best, if you don't eat any fiber you'll get a hemorrhoid. Also I read that too many ketones in your body will make you feel like shit.
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>>77215992
Yeah, that's kinda how I feel/think that I'm not in ketosis cause I'm not having any of the flu-like symptoms and don't really feel run down despite this being my third day.

I do get noticiably fuller off of smaller portions and I can supplement fiber for virtually net-zero carbs. It's something I'll keep pursuing for a month and see where I'm at in terms of actual weight loss.



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