>Who is /fat/ for?For Beach Bloatlords who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious: >>77227784
>>77231002Why do low-carb diets outperform low-fat so consistently? I thought fat had more calories than carbs?Could CICO be wrong?
Weight stalling is to be expected if I’m also lifting right
>77231012First, why do you pretend low-carb and keto diets are the same thing? You don't know the difference or you want to claim the very real benefits of a low-carb diet applies to keto out of malice?
>>77231017Not really, if you eat fewer calories than you expend, you'll lose weight. The only exception I know is if your accumulating more water for some reason.
>>77231018Zero carb is pretty low.
>>77231017Weight stalling is expected if you are doing CICO. You will also regain weight if doing CICO. Unfortunately CICO is a sugar industry hoax.
>77231022>haha, I lie on purpose We know you do this little lie on purpose, I want to know why you do it. Is it meant to hide the side effects of keto that doesn't happen on a low-carb diet?
>>77231002did a 3 mile bike ride today. It was fun but I had to stop a few times on the last mile because my fat ass couldn't breathe. Once this vape is dead I am gonna be done with smoking/vaping. Gonna do it before work tomorrow I was tired but felt accomplished. Gonna make it a daily chore.
Don’t reply 2 me ketschizo, i know your little Jew games
>>77231029>Don’t reply 2 me ketschizo, i know your little Jew games
Also replacing soda with water..I gotta say I am craving something else with taste
>>77231027>Once this vape is dead I am gonna be done with smoking/vaping.You should throw it away now, "I'll do it when..." ends up being never.
>>77231043Sparkling water is great once you get over carb addiction.
>>77231043Club soda worked for me, when I quit soda. Still love it with a lemon.
>>77231027Fat should do a group 20-meter fitness gram pacer test one day itd be funny as fuck
>>77231043My walmart got rid of their store brand diet mountain dew, and increased the price of all of their 2Ls from $1 to $1.24. I am considering military action in response.
>>77231062Hahhahahahha
>>77231062Looool
>>77231062Nice. Do this one.
>>77231081Cool. Now do this one.
>>77231081>often dubbed "ketoschizo">posted hudrends, if not thousands, of times per yearThis may be one of the most posted image on 4chan, close to that banana.
>>77231086He is here very often
>>77231089Now that you're saying, I can't remebering looking at /fat/ and not seeing ketoschizo around, no matter the time or day.
>>77231086>that banana context?
>>77231086It has been posted 134 times including this thread. It first appeared 04 Jan 2023.https://desuarchive.org/fit/search/filename/1731587510478.png/>10 results foundhttps://desuarchive.org/fit/search/filename/keto-vs-cico-3.png/>124 results found
>>77231094The scary part is thst the picture with post stamp on the left side is most likely someone he paid on fiverr to do nearly 4 years ago kek. It’s why it’s the singular picture of “””””him”””””” thst he posts
>>77231092Its peanut butta jelly time!
>>77231105You seem retarded. Maybe you should pay someone on fiverr to act like they aren't retarded for you.
>>77231110i have never seen that thing in the entire 2 years ive been on 4chan
Cutting for so long has caused front squats to go from one of my favorite lifts to my most hated. I don't have the strength to get into and maintain the front rack position, it makes me feel light headed and unstable.
>>77231105I'm under the same impression, the guy literally refuses to post his body once in the last 4 years, insisting on spamming that same old image and saying "I mog you">>77231092Apparently posting it is now an instant ban.
Ketoschizo resorting to mindless ad hominems now that he’s feeling embarrassed
>>77231127Post body.
>>77231130To be fair, spamming the same old lies and mindless ad hominems is all he ever does.
>>77231127Hes basically trying to be the high schooler who bullies elementary kids by coming here and commanding us to post body while posting his fiverr image. Yes we are all fat and we’re working on changing it. He’d be embarrassed posting in the post body thread
>>77231114Its not actually the banana meme its some unfunny shit that ancientfags used to post in the PUDDI PUDDI /b/tard days
>>77231132Also, why do you keep taking pictures of people who are putting an effort to stop being fat and making fun of them, "haha, look, they are not as slim as this guy half a decade ago"?Do you have a fetish for doing this sort of thing?
>>77231130You're too embarrassed to post body even once.Keto chad has posted body many times, including video.
Posted da webm with an ancient post number again
>>77231144He'd be called a dyel cause other than leanness its a shit physique
>>77231144>Yes we are all fat and we’re working on changing it. He’d be embarrassed posting in the post body threadUnironically someone who is fat and want to pull others down to his misery. >>77231147ketoschizo, you only posted this webm claiming to be you 4 years ago and that's literally all, even on that exact same thread when people asked for a second image you refused.
>>77231146I'm not making fun of anyone. I am helping people compare weight loss strategies.Flat calorie theorists fail at their weight loss goals.
>>77231152You post body first then I will post mine and make a new image comparison.
>>77231150Once per thread, on every single thread, since may 2022.>>77231154You're fat, you're lying non stop and you're trying to shame people into accepting your lie. Dude, why do you keep comming to a thread where people are putting a huge effort to lose weight, something you never managed to acomplish, and try to make them fail like you failed? Does this make you feel better?
>>77231155>then I will post mineDon't lie, ketoschizo, you'll pic any pictures of anyone here and make an edit on the same of that fiverr image. You did this to anyone who was foolish enough to take what you say in good faith.
>>77231157Covid really fucked some anons up
>>77231157>a huge effort to lose weightLosing weight is effortless if you know how to do it properly.Pic related. Unlimited calorie low-carb outperforms restricted calorie with carbs.All that measuring. All that logging in a diary. All that hunger. For what? Worse results and eventual weight regain.
>>77231160You won't post body because you know you look worse.
>>77231162>Losing weight is effortless if...If we ignore reality and outright lie. If your mystical mumbo jumbo diet worked one tenth of what you claim, you'd not have a breakdown and cry "no u" for 50 posts when people ask you to show your body.>>77231167I'm pretty sure everyone here looks better than you, even the fattest guy has the merit of putting in an effort to lose weight and this puts him above you, fatso.
>>77231161I guess it's all the free time from not counting calories and not exercising.
>>77231161Who knows, maybe he couldn't get that same guy to some more material for him, I'd refuse after seeing what he did with the short video.
>>77231168You're not going to admit you are wrong no matter how many photos and videos are posted.The only possible benefit of posting body is if you do it first for comparison.
>>77231172>You're not going to admit you are wrong no matter how many photos and videos are posted.>The only possible benefit of posting body is if you do it first for comparison.The excuses are always the same, people already were foolish enough to post their body, you laughed at them and then you made edits of them on the side of some fiverr actor.Dude, is this a fetish thing for you?
>april 2021My god he’s been posting a random scrawny white dudes fiverr picture for 5 years
>>77231178okay nta but that guy is not scrawny, he’s pretty ripped
>>77231172Its all a moot point now that people like Mark Bell are doing public sugar diets while on Retatrutide. My coworker said hes on Reta with a high protein diet and hes lost 20 lbs in a few months. The water is going to get so muddy for natty /fat/s
I just ate my second bowl of cereal of the day. I need to get some real food but I'm broke ;_;
>>77231180He gets paid by how good his body looks, I can't imagine how it feels to do this.
>>77231180Maybe ottermode at best but nowhere near what Id call jacked
>>77231182>I need to get some real food but I'm broke ;_;Rice, beans, chicken, pork, eggs and most vegetables all cost less than slop, no?
>a flat chest and visible rib bones is ripped ok ketoschizo. This nigga is a stick
>>77231186>>77231189im fat as fuck so that physique looks pretty damn good to me, didnt mean to ruffle you guys up
>>77231178Wait a second, is it just me or the guy here >>77231172 and here >>77231147 doesn't seems to be same guy?
>>77231002FattyContestJoey302 lbs
>>77231192Now you must go and familiarize yourself with actual muscle >>>77205734
>>77231196hard pass, i can’t stand those threads, they make me feel like shit abt myself
>>77231199You're among equals here anon. We are all gonna make it.
This nibba is like 5ft5 too based on the length of his rib rage
Is there genuinely a difference between white potato and sweet potato?
>>77231199I only stopped feeling like shit when I stopped being fat, my friend, every suffering in the way is worth it.
>>77231207Sweet potato has beta-carotene, K2, and lower glycemic index iirc I do a 50/50 mix in my shepards pie recipe
>>77231207Sweet potatoes have a far lower glycemic index.
>>77231062>fashionably at
>>77231207white keep you full longer
>>77231192Thanks buddy. If you want to be as lean as me just eat an unlimited calorie zero carb diet. Diets that leave you hungry don't work.If you want food recommendations I'd be happy to help.
>>77231239holy shit youre real??
Completely different torso length LOL
>>77231239>If you want food recommendations I'd be happy to help.yes pls, what are your go-to's and do you recommend meal prepping?
>>77231239Chin is very square in this picture, it was very pointy in this one >>77231172Also, how did you change your torso length?
He went on the internet to ask someone else for a picture NO NO NO LOL
>>77231246You'll learn about it the hard way.
>>77231249Could at least have cut the chin and neck from the newer image.
I am a beach lordhttps://youtu.be/p5qFCejvGj0
>>77231255Truck driving is such a cursed profession for people who want to be healthy. You can't stand, you can't sleep well, its hard to find good food or prep good perishables
guys.. it's over for me...i accidentally ate until maintenance today instead of keeping it at a deficit...now i'll be a fatty again
>>77231265I had two bowls of spaghetti for dinner and Im still paying for it. Almost at 50 miles...
>>77231263Actually, you can eat unlimited callories and still be as lean as me.
>>77231274We have different goals ketoman. Im trying to recomp not be a skelly rail.
>>77231275You are dumb, you'll be forever fat unless you quit believing CICO myths. If you ever want to be as lean as me while eating unlimited calories, you need to get my food recommendations.
>>77231246Meal prep seems pointless. I am too lazy to cook anything fancy and I hate leftovers anyway.My go-to meal is beef patties cooked under the broiler on high, rack in the middle of the oven, 6-7 minutes each side. I put foil on the pan for easy cleanup. I get at least medium ground beef (80/20) but preferably regular (70/30). Lean patties are disgusting and a diet that isn't delicious will never succeed. Animal fat is good for you, tastes great, and is satiating.I usually get the frozen Costco patties in green packs which are 80/20 because they are super convenient. Americans also have available black bag Kirkland beef patties that are 70/30 which I wish I could get. If the Kirkland 80/20 patties are out of stock I buy regular ground beef at the grocery store and press patties myself. I eat 3 patties or 1lb of beef per meal.I eat sauerkraut on the side with the beef patties, and a large chunk of extra old cheddar I cut into small pieces and put on the beef as I eat it. Cheese aged 6+ months is zero carb and has strong flavour for a delicious meal.I also sometimes make soft boiled eggs in an egg cooker. I like cooking eggs in the shell because there is less cleanup. Bacon cooked in the oven goes well with eggs but sometimes I'm too lazy to cook it. I eat cheese with the eggs either way. The same extra old cheddar. I buy the Kirkland low-sodium bacon because it has zero sugar.A very quick easy meal I have sometimes is a can of salmon mixed with creme fraiche. I eat it with a dill pickle. No cooking needed and only makes a single bowl and spoon to wash.To drink for enjoyment or with food I buy sparkling water that I put in the refrigerator so it is cold and refreshing. My main drink is just plain water I chug for hydration. I also have been drinking a glass of unflavored electrolytes every day.No calorie counting. No hunger. Lost >70lbs and have kept it off for ~10 years with no exercise. Exercise is good for you but not necessary to get lean.
Thoughts on my diet?>about 300-400g daily Tuna, chicken, beef, pork chops>Bananas and oranges >Tomatoes, avocado, salad>Sometimes beans or legumes >Chunk of cheese
>>77231281If has carbs, you must know that you can eat unlimited calories, no hunger, no exercises, if you follow my diet.
>>77231274>>77231277This is an upset calorietard.>>77231280This is me. Took me a while to write the post. Also note how I included another photo for verification.
>>77231281Id swap bananas for something more nutrient dense like berries. I only keep bananas in the house because my toddler insists on it
>>77231239>>77231280Shouldn't two pictures taken from the same cellphone have the same width?
>>77231286Will do. My goal is to get lean from overweight currently
>>77231285>This is me.Don't know dude, you've already lied and being caught doing it so many times and the pictures today doesn't look like the same person in the other pictures.
>>77231285The only reason this diet doesn't give you colon cancer is because cancer cells can only survive on glucose. If someone half assed this theyd get turbo ass cancer just like people who are too low IQ for Ray Peat stuff and give themselves diabetes. If you just cut out processed slop you're ahead of 80% of the population it doesn't need to be more dogmatic than that unless you are morbidly obese
>>77231246Followed ketoschizo diet suggestions last year, gained 12 pounds in the first month, around 10 in the second.
>>77231263Being home every night does help. But it is a bad profession for being fit lol
>>77231288They are screenshots of photos for cropping and to strip any metadata (e.g. exif). Also the out.jpg had to be flipped with imagemagick so the number in the mirror would look right.In my older photos I held the paper with the back facing the mirror so you were seeing the marker soaked through the paper. I have a new phone and new shower curtains but I took the photo in the same washroom. The burgers are not photographed in my washroom.
>>77231295To be fair, it's not a bad diet in itself if we ignore the "unlimited calories™" and other ads. It'll criple your capacity to build muscles and do the same for your organs and brain on long term, but it will make you lose weight. What annoys is how much this guy is willing to lie and attack others when they mention eating in a different. The very idea of someone wanting to lose weight and getting a minimum of muscle of the same times gets attacked with a barrage of attacks.
>>77231298Who is ketoschizo
>>77231301And you also got surgery for your chin, apparently. Sorry dude, you know the story about the boy who cried wolf, don't you?
>>77231305Anyone that upsets a vegan named moxyte who comes here to shill against low-carb diets. He has a subreddit (/r/ketoduped).Try giving low-carb advice anywhere on /fit/ and he will call you it. It's like calling someone a nazi. He thinks it will ensure nobody eats animals.
>>77231298Someone deep into the insulin resistance hole already has non-functioning leptin so of course the keto diet wouldn't work. The solution is ironically to lean into building mass recruiting myokines that decrease insulin resistance then when leptin works again you can do any diet including but not limited to etc.
>>77231305It's the guy who you asked advice, he has been posting here for 12 - 14 hours a day, 7 days a week for many years. At least 4 since I first found /fit/, but people say he has been here for much longer.He's famous for spamming the very same images and talking points in every thread, and going feral against anyone who suggest anything a bit different from his diet is not the worst thing ever. Among other things.A couple of years I took his advice on diet, the idea of eating unlimited calories and getting lean sounded too good to be true, it was. Ended up losing lean mass and gaining weight while following his advice.
>>77231308>Someone deep into the insulin resistance hole already has non-functioning leptin so of course the keto diet wouldn't work.I'm not the only one to have tried your magic unlimited calories diet and getting fatter while on it. But if you really need to make up that I must be diabetic (had a GI of 91 when the fattest) to justify why your diet actually work, I can only feel sorry for you and whoever is a fool as I was to take you seriously.
>>77231307Just today you already accused 5 or so different anons of being this moxyte, all of them with clearly different writting styles, does this imaginary arch-enemy of yours even exists?
>>77231309>>77231307Sounds interesting actually. Are there any other characters roaming this board?
>>77231313The only one I really know about is the ketoschizo, this moxyte doesn't seems to be exist, never saw a vegan here, I mostly lurk on /fat/ and /fph/, but I'm sure broader /fit/ has many characters.
>>77231313I hear about a trooned out wog who posts a bunch of threads with time wasting questions.
>>77231315What would a time wasting question even be?
>>77231313MWAHanon is a crossposter from /tttt/ pretty nice butt for a guy actually
>>77231309This is moxyte right here. You can tell because he will write fake stories like this.He is desperate to get people to never try keto or low-carb. He knows it works so his only gambit is to get people to never try. People who try low-carb will continue to eat meat, eggs, and dairy forever because they are health foods. And success stories encourage more people to try.Vegans have been seething about low-carb since Atkins.
>>77231316>Lust provoking image>What does /fit/ think about drinking beer
>>77231313PSOAS schizo. I got accused of being him once for recommending a PSO-rite for a specific post exercise tightness
>>77231321>This is moxyte right here. You can tell because he will write fake stories like this.I'm pretty sure you think, and half a dozen others anons are this "moxyte", kek. This is part of the reason why you're well knonw as a schizo.I did keto before, once following your advice and some times later properly, and I must say you're doing a great diservice to anyone trying to lose weight, to a degree I question if you don't do it out of malice, ketoschizo.Keto can genuinelly be a good diet if understand and done properly, and no one has done more to make people avoid keto than you.
>>77231322Genuinelly more interesting and useful than the stuff ketoschizo spams. Girls are the single greatest motivator for someone to exercise and stay fit, and alcohol is a part of most people's life, talking about how it affects the body is fun.
>>77231324Okay moxyte.You're also actively posting in this thread >>77226655 Which I don't care about because I'm just here to help Anons lose weight.For you posting on /fit/ is a crusade against meat eating.
>>77231329Schizo, I literally did a keto diet more than once, but you feel the need to lie and attack, don't you?If anything, you seems to be the only one activelly doing all he can to put keto, low-carb and other meat-heavy diets in the worst light possible.
>>77231331You called me Moxyte in the last thread when I had a smoked salmon sandwich for breakfast, shepards pie for lunch and spaghetti for dinner
>>77231331Being lean, posting scientific evidence, and posting success stories helps people.Pic related. Kelly Hogan has been carnivore for 20 years and it caused her to lose a lot of weight and keep it off without loose skin.
>>77231334Dude, I'm not ketoschizo. But did he call you moxyte last thread?
>>77231338Kek yea sorry meant to reply a post above you
>>77231337>Being lean, posting scientific evidence, and posting success stories helps people.Dude, you're disgusting. Mocking anyone who is putting in the effort to lose weight for not sucking you, posting the same studies that doesn't really agree with you and you understand, no matter how many times people far more capable than you explains and claiming "get lean without any effort, eat unlimited calories, all diets but mine don't work" doesn't help people.Losing weight is good, keto can help at it if done properly, you mislead people by lying they can eat huge amounts of food and still lose weight, then claim it didn't work because they were actually diabetics... you hide the fact that keto basically mean you'll not grow muscles and you'll lose the lean mass you already have. You being sedentary is not really a choice, isn't it?
>>77231344You can eat more and lose weight on keto. You know this to be true. That's why you are absolutely desperate to ensure nobody tries it.>I expected that even though I was eating 2500 calories a day, an increase of 500 calories a day for me, that I would not gain much weight, I already knew that eating fat and protein doesn't make you fat.>The biggest and most unexpected change was losing so much body fat in the 30 days. I lost 19.6 pounds by the end of the monthhttps://ketogasm.com/the-bacon-experiment-interview/
About keto, low carn and carnivore diets.>Can I eat unlimited calories and lose weight like ketoschizo says every 10 posts?No, these diets will help you feel fuller and help you to eat less calories than you consume, but if you still eat more calories than you consume you'll still gain weight.There are some phony studies, one of them about athlets doing lots of exercises and following a keto diet losing weight faster than sedentary people following an older low-fat diet, while consuming more calories. The amount of calories they consumed was ignore in this study.In another famous phony study (see >>77231349) a 2500 cal diet was considerate a 500 cal increase only compared the baseline adult male consumption and assuming that's how people taking part in the study ate, it didn't took in account how much the people taking part in the study actually ate before.>Can I get fit while doing one of these diets on long term?While not optimal, it is possible to get fit on a low-carb diet. While it is technically possible to gain lean mass while doing no-carn diet, it's in the same realm of "technically possible" as doing a Barbieri fast, you'll not have enough energy or disposition to practice any sport or do any exercise. A no-carb diet can make you lean, but hardly fit.
>>77231349The bacon posting is taking me back to the 2010 fitness discourse on here and reddit. We've known keto makes bloodwork sludge and causes hair loss. Its not a sustainable eating habit like carnivore, paleo, whole 30 which should be the end goal for anyone on /fat/ something they can use for the rest of their lives not a mean to an end.
>>77231360The bacon study is flawed, it assumed that a 2500 cal/day diet was an increase of 500 calories by assuming people taking part in the study were consuming the 2000 recomended calories. The average American adult male consumes an average of 3000 cal/day, if the study was done with random and sizable sample the 2500 cal/day diet was a reduction of 500 calories a day.
>>77231359>>77231365It's not a study it's an n=1 anecdote. Completely insane rambling. This is the guy calling everyone "ketoschizo".>>77231360Carnivore is ketogenic.
>>77231373>It's not a study it's an n=1 anecdote.It was a mistake on my part to assume that the ketoschizo, who can't read properly or understand what he reads, would be quoting a study instead of one random guy making stuff stuff in a keto-cult website. My bad.
>>77231373Schizo.
>>77231377Oh shit did moxyte launch an AI bot to spam /fit/ 24/7? These are AI hallucinations aren't they. >>77231359 >>77231365>>77231379>inspect element editingWow so convincing.There's no way two different people made up the same lie about a "study" that doesn't exist within 3 minutes.
>>77231384Again falling back to ad hominem, keto-schizo? You always do this when someone start actually talking about keto diet. Also, why you post an image of a person with a vascular disorder caused by diabetes as your example for what not following your unlimited calories diet will look like? Isn't this too dishonest even for you?
>>77231384>Oh shit did moxyte launch an AI bot to spam /fit/ 24/7?Yes, keto-schizo, everyone here surely is your archenemy Moxyte or an AI made by her, it's not you who is a literal schizophrenic.
all these fags shitting on the no-carb guy yet he posted his body and none of u havent..interesting
>protein consumption stays the same>fat consumption stays the same>carb consumption increasesHmm I wonder what caused the obesity epidemic.Anyway remember to stop eating carbs /fat/. I am going to bed. I will post meal photos tomorrow to help /fat/ Anons see what healthy satiating meals can look like.
>>77231394Whenever someone posted their bodies when talking to him, he makes edits and keeps posting it on every single thread for years to come.He even did this to people who were trying to lose weight, and kept mocking them for years. It's not the type of guy who you can engage in good faith.
>>77231395>protein consumption stays the same>fat consumption stays the same>carb consumption increasesSo calories from protein stays the same, calories from fat stays the same, calories from carbs increase, so total calories consumed increased? You must be an idiot to not see what happened.
>>77231394if i remember right this guy here >>77231073 was extremely obese and was having some amazingly fast weight lost he posted some pictures to show his progress like before after when the ketoschizo started to mock him for not following his diet and now the poor guy gets posted five times a day as spam ketoschizo is the reason why many people stopped posting their progress
>>77231408then why is that guy holding up a note that sides with ketoschizo?
>>77231409im talking about the guy on the right who was losing weight, the guy on the left is supposedly ketoschizo who never was fati really don't know why this faggot come here preach his diet and mock people trying to lose weight for twelve hours a day
>could easily OMAD for months on end >have McDonalds>get hungrier than I have in months after a few hours This shit is fucking EVIL what the FUCK
>>77231413It's because if has carbs, you need to stop eating carbs.
>stop eating carbscarbs are in almost fucking EVERYTHING
>>77231415Yes, I know, dummy! It's just weird having my stomach growl so INTENSELY when I'm a seasoned OMADer
>>77231417Carbs are present on the diets of every single athlete for a reason.
when you fast do you only drink water or only have breakfast?
How many eggs do (You) eat, /fat/bros?
>>77231431water with lemon juice, but i can't find it enjoyable to talk here after the ketoschizo shat the place again, /fat/ is becoming unusable
>>77231308>Someone deep into the insulin resistance hole already has non-functioning leptin so of course the keto diet wouldn't work.So your diet doesn't work for people who are fat?
>just run
>>77231495>just fuck up ur knees
Fatty ContestEumenes 96.6kg193cm
first week of dieting and I think I lost a kg
Keto schizo and fastard shills have been in full force lately
>>77231598Yeah. I don't mind people playing with ketobot, as long as advisory words are said afterwards. Pointless to get anyone new trying to lose weight get hurt by lies.Eat less, move more, stay consistent.
Another day another walk I did 18k steps todayThe weight goes consistently downWAGMI
fatty contestfatpornstar103.5kg
>>77231394I'm happy to post. This is from last Nov around 240lb. Balanced diet. 6'4, cardio and resistance training. Will post a new one in the end of May or by June with abs showing. Still dropping fat by a few percent, now at 230lb.Unlocked chin-ups 10 days ago, pull-ups 6 days ago.
is waking up several times at night some kinda sign that my caloric defecit is too much? (what google said)? I've been on this diet for a month now and yeah I keep waking up many times at night. Last night I woke up at 3, at 5, at 6. I can manage to get back to sleep but it takes a while. How to get over this? It wasn't a problem before the diet. Eating 1950kcal a day.
>>77231598Did something happened for this?
>>77231755the jews don't want you to get /fit/example this heeb >>77231721
>>77231751Well that deficit doesn't seem big, close to an average guys' BMR.I started waking up once a night between deep restorative sleep & REM-dream phases. It was a good thing, happened when everything was optimized & everything clicked together. It lasted for about three weeks. Now I just have a hard time falling asleep the further my training streak is. Fatigue, thermogenesis etc.
>>77231043make fruit juice soda - half a glass of fruit juice of your choice, fill it up with sparkling watershift the ratio to 1/4:3/4 over time
For real, should I try a low carb diet?
keto fucking sucks...but i have lost 17 pounds in 3 weeks doing absolutely nothing, so it definitely works
>>77231777I tried keto and quit when I could no longer practice any sport or fight.
>>77231781that would suck. im super disabled, pretty much couchbound 24/7 so i havent been able to get any exercise and i put on about 70lbs in the last 5 years. i needed something that required zero physical activity to work, and so far ketos the only thing thats stuck. i tried regular calorie deficit an that kind of worked but being hungry when all you can do is sit on the couch and think about how hungry you are all day was an impossible task
>>77231787>pretty much couchbound 24/7 so i havent been able to get any exercise and i put on about 70lbs in the last 5 years. >i needed something that required zero physical activity to work, and so far ketos the only thing thats stuck.Keto is gold in your situation, go for it. I tried it while overweight (BMI 29) and doing some sports I like, it doesn't fit what I wanted.
I have a CPAP machine coming in the mail today
>>77231417Carbs are in lower quality plant-based foods, with milk being the exception. They are prevalent in the modern diet because they generate high profit margins and the government promotes them.High quality foods like meat, eggs, and cheese aged more than six months have no carbs.
>>77231807>They are prevalent in the modern diet because they generate high profit margins and the government promotes them.They are prevalent because virtually everyone likes eating bread, pasta, sugar... no need for a government conspiracy.
>>77231420Athletes inject hormones because they know that body composition and performance are determined by hormones, not calories.Many modern athletes are breaking records on zero carb diets.Cheetahs the fastest land animal eat zero carbs. Lions and tigers also are zero carb carnivores. And birds of prey. The highest performing animals eat zero carb. The animals which eat a lot of carbs are prey animals.
>>77231781for how long? It does suck for the first few weeks or even months
>>77231811I kept following a keto diet for a couple of months, I talked to honest people doing it for years and they report this weakness never goes away.>>77231807>>77231810It has been like 5 hours and you're already back spamming?
>>77231776If you want to be lean, yes.
>>77231821Can I get this advice from someone that is not a liar?
>>77231817Dr Shawn Baker has eaten zero carb for like 8+ years at this point and he is stronger than you for sure.
>>77231824You're inverting reality.Low-carbers are the ones who tell the truth. It is counter culture.People who promote carb consumption will promote anything mainstream, like mRNA pseudovaccine injections.
>>77231828>Dr Shawn BakerIs a professional shill for a cult-like diet. It's no different from those guys selling weird shake diets in the 80s.
>>77231830I'm asking for advice from people who are seriously here, not from you ketoschizo. You lie too much
>>77231395>00:59:23 I am going to bed.>08:02:35 ketoschizo is backThis weirdo literally go away for 7 hours, and then continues to spam for 17 hours, non-stop, every single day.
Anons don't cut out carbs. I tried to not eat any carbs yesterday and I feel like shit. I only ate bacon, steak, and cheese and replaced my carbs with vodka.
>>77231848>and replaced my carbs with vodka.Nice fan fic
>>77231831Dr Shawn Baker eats zero carb and is stronger than you will ever be.You are just making excuses to consume fattening cattle feed.>>77231834You should get advice from people who succeeded at weight loss and didn't regain.Listening to fat people who never succeeded and are full of excuses to eat fattening food will result in being fat like them.
>>77231878>Dr Shawn Baker eats zero carb and is stronger than you will ever be.Last year liver king, now it's this guy, the scammers change but the schizophrenic spam stays.
>>77231856I did replace the carbs but after I got drunk I ate a bunch of carb filled snacks
>>77231878>You should get advice from people who succeeded at weight loss and didn't regain.>Reddit space>Listening to fat people who never succeeded and are full of excuses to eat fattening food will result in being fat like them.You're the last person I'll trust, you lie too much. Can I get some actual advice on a low carb diet?
First meal of the day. 1lb of 80/20 beef. 85g extra old cheddar. A bowl of sauerkraut.I eat this any time I am hungry. No calorie restriction required.
>>77231907>No calorie restriction required.This meal is tiny, peak CICO meal.
>>77231881>Can I get some actual advice on a low carb diet?Low carb or keto by themselves will not work, but they are great to feel fuller so you end up eating very little without going hungry.
>>77231909The beef patties measure 1170 calories. The cheese measures 340 calories. 1510 calorie total in one meal. I eat this 2x or 3x daily. Whenever I am hungry.>>77231914Fullness and satiety are different. Meat and eggs satiate but don't fill. Fiber and water fill but don't satiate.Consumption on low-carb can increase according to the calorie measurement yet it gets better results than calorie restricters who eat carbs.
>>77231925>The cheese measures 340 calories. 1510 calorie total in one meal.Dude, these patties are tiny, their diameter is barely larger than a fork's head, are you making up stuff again?
I eat carbs because I need it for my runs
>>77231929You're supposed to not to any exercise so you can be lean like me.
>>77231929Lame excuse to eat fattening food.Ryan Talbot won a decathlon on zero carb.Body fat is stored energy. You need to lower your insulin so your body can access stored energy.
>>77231914Thanks!>77231925Do you really need to enter every single conversation and shit it up with shilling?
6’ 260lbs, targeting 1200kcal, how much weight loss in 6 weeks with strength training and cardio to medium intensity? I’ve used some tools and they reckon 24-30lbs of combined water + fat.
>>77231939You seem confused.Calorie nonsense is shilled by big sugar. Flat calorie theory is not just wrong it is harmful.
>>77231947It depends entirely on what food you eat.If you eat carbs you will lose muscle mass and lower your metabolism while retaining fat.If you go zero carb you can lose 30lbs a month easily.
>>77231947There's a good tool in the OP: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.phpIt gave this results>>77231948>Calorie nonsense is shilled by big sugar.The only shill here is you.
>>77231952I'm just a guy who lost weight. I tried CICO and it doesn't work. Once you realize flat calorie theory is a fraud weight loss becomes easy. Many people have the same experience.Calorie nonsense comes from government and Sugar Information Inc. It's a top down propaganda campaign to ensure people eat cheap profitable sugar and grains.
>>77231956>I'm just a guy who lost weight.You're a compulsive liar who spams 17 hours a day, attack anyone trying to lose weight trying to demoralize them. Around half of this thread is you doing all you can to bring people down and shill some wacky cult-diet. People who felt for your talk and tried your diet gained weight and you just make up some excuse on why it fails.
>>77231958Why do success stories demoralize you? Why does knowing you don't need to measure and log all your food in a diary demoralize you? Why does knowing you don't have to exercise demoralize you? Why does knowing you never need to be hungry demoralize you?You seem to have a personal problem that wouldn't be shared by an average person.
>>77231968Mocking people for doing effort in a way that works, saying it'll not work and they are doing it for no purpose, only to promise they'll get magic results with zero effort if they follow the tenets of your cult, something that doesn't work as many anons who tried it will tell you.You're not here to help people, you are here to preach a cult as annoying and false as veganism, when people here fails and get fatter you rejoice because it gives you a hook to preach more and maybe get a convert.>You seem to have a personal problem that wouldn't be shared by an average person.The mentally ill dude trying his best to project.
>>77231975CICO doesn't work. I tried it myself. This thread is full of people who did CICO and regained weight.Flat calorie theory is false and harmful.
>>77231975The inuit traditionally ate keto. Ice age humans ate keto more or less. It's the natural diet of humans
>>77231968>>77231956>>77231830Isn't this Andreas Eenfeldt behind every single article you post a professional keto shill?
>>77231981>CICO doesn't work. I tried it myself. This thread is full of people who did CICO and regained weight.Repeating a lie a thousand times will not make it true, it'll only make you more demented. I seriously doubt you managed to do a regular CICO diet, it takes some willpower. I've done keto diets and I have done traditional CICO diets, while keto have some use cases, mostly helping really fat people who need to lose a lot of weight ASAP, it basically cripples you away from practicing any sport or exercise.
>>77231927Cheese and high fat beef are calorie dense. I believe that anon.1 lb of beef that has 90g of fat and about 100g of cheese would be 1500 calories.
>>77231925>>Boef
>>77231982>It's the natural diet of humansI'd rather not have the lifespan of an inuit or ice age human, tho.
>>77231989Post body. Let's see those CICO results Mr Athlete.Pic related is an athlete who won a Big10 decathlon on zero carb.
why is there no janny here to sort out the ketotard obvious troll? >dur look a athelete lost dur weight because keto, not because he's a athlete or nuffins durr its cos he didn't eat potatoes durrwanker
>>77231982The problem is not keto as a diet, the problem is the cultist behavior of putting people down on purpose, spamming for 17 hours a day (yesterday), attacking anyone not following his diet and outright lying when he thinks it'll help him to preach. >>77231994>Pic related isThe guy you spam 3 - 4 pictures per thread. You really think that repetition makes up for a lack of truth, don't you?
Is it just samefagging and replying to itself
>>77232000at this point it must be a full blown llm-bot assault, please report it, I hope mods will do their jobs eventually, every thread is being immediately hijacked by this shit
>>77231999One black swan is all it takes to prove you are wrong about needing carbs for athleticism. By the way this is a weight loss thread not an athletics thread.But here's another example for fun:>Carnivore Athlete Completes 5 Consecutive Marathons Without Eating!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4URTnJwS_1U
>>77232003Dude, just stop with this spam. No one is interested in joining your diet-cult, no matter how many fantastic made-up stuff you bring to preach.
>>77232005You still haven't posted body.
>>77232006Again hiding behind "post your body" when cornered? You're too repetitive.
>>77232010My posts are pretty diverse. I post personal experience, diet advice, weight loss success stories, scientific papers, historical evidence that CICO is a sugar industry hoax, advice from expert clinicians who treat obesity in patients, etc.Your posts are just seething about my posts. You never post evidence. You never post body. All you do is cry and throw tantrums.
>been in a slump for 2 weeks>no motivation>decide to go back to stronglifts>50% of my weightthe fact i dont have do dread 4 days a week with a rest dayy in between is making me excited again-10kg to go
Holy shit keto schizo is still posting here actively 12 hours later
Complete off topic story but last year I remember telling my parents I was working to lose weight and they were asking what substitutes I was doing in my diet. I told them that I cut out sugary sodas and energy drinks for black coffee and diet sodas. my dad went into a diatribe about how I might as well drink full sugar sodas because they're healthier for me or something
>>77232025American?
>>77232014>My posts are pretty diverse.Dude, you post the exact same images and preaching slogans over and over again. The only thing you do that goes a bit out of the rails is mocking to bring people who are trying to lose weight.
>>77232016>the fact i dont have do dread 4 days a week with a rest dayy in between is making me excited againThat's great to read>-10kg to goHow much you already lost?
>>77232025My dad bought a frozen pizza thinking it was 280 calories because they do the 1/4th serving size thing lol. I think a lot of people just are not aware of the arbitrary listed serving size on things
>>77232047In many countries the serving size on packages is standardized. The label has whatever serving size the seller want and a 100g or 1/2 lbs portion on the side.
>>77232028You know it>>77232047I am not ashamed to admit that when I was younger I just assumed that the calorie count on the box was for the whole box, not for like 1/8th of the box or whatever. Or when they do the "well the whole box is 350 calories, but the sauce is another 450 calories" or whatever. This is to say that my parents have been tricked by it in the past.
>>77231162>body weightNow do body fat
>>77232057this study compares low-carb CICO with standard (US standard) CICO and say low-carb CICO is better.
>>77232057Sure. Here you go. Low carb gives more weight loss and 3x more abdominal fat loss despite eating more calories.
>>77232045cheers mate>lostwell... i was down about 4kgthen binge ate didnt work out and put those 4kg on quick again
>>77231721yummy
>>77231002how do you stay focussed going from 15% to 10%
>>77232103InterestingPersonally I tried so hard and got so far, but In The End, my <30g carb experiments lead to lethargy after two days (so much so that my pace during my walks is reduced to a point where Apple Watch doesn't register it exercise). And while hunger control is improved day-to-day early on on low-carb, it is invariably followed by a nuclear binge after a week where my glucose-deprived brain overcompensates by eating everything not nailed down. I end up worse off than if I'd just suffered through a balanced diet where cravings are constant but tolerable if i graze on fruit throughout the day.Shame, since the severity of my acne is directly correlated with carb intake.
>>77232146Insulin blocks fat burning. Quitting carbs doesn't immediately lower insulin. It can take a month to reverse hyperinsulinemia so your body can freely use fat for fuel.As for binging part of the benefit of keto is you can eat anything zero carb whenever you are hungry. So if you need to snack you can eat hard boiled eggs, aged cheese, cured meats with no sugar. By eating zero carb food freely you can push the carbs out.If grazing on fruit works for you that is great. I would be very happy to hear you succeeded on any diet. Evidence suggests that what happens is your metabolism declines and your hunger hormones elevate until inevitable weight regain begins. Pic related.The only way I found to escape the hunger and metabolism trap was unlimited calorie zero carb.
I tried keto back in 2012. I wasn't that fat back then, a bit chubby. Sure it worked. Reduced fat, and muscle mass.Now I'm on a balanced diet, more active than ever before. Even infantry.What I find better on a balanced one:have the energy to do, always have that edge to itfood doesn't dictate me, I can eat pretty much anything as long as I get enough protein, preparing & eating doesn't take a huge chunk of time, also quite cheapI have the most muscle mass I've ever had, stronger than everAll in all being able to achieve things physically trickles down to everything. I was around 146kg when I was my heaviest, a depressed sedentary alcoholic. Being constantly hungry was never my problem, it was the processed foods (store bought/fast food) which were easier to overconsume. Now the problem's the other way around, I'm finding it hard to eat enough to get my macros. Dairy is a godsend.
>>77232186Post body.
>>77232194no, u :3
>>77232201I was just curious to see how fat you are. You obviously have metabolic disease based on your anecdote. And now we know for sure you are fat because you won't post body.Dr Shawn Baker eats a zero carb diet and outperforms you athletically.
>but doctor we need carbs for energy to fuel our physical activity
>>77232206Ah, dr. NO TOMATO!Already did, I said I'd post the next one after I lose a few more percents of fat. Your turn. Post body. And also, have you calculated how many calories you have after the thermic effect? You're sedentary, because you took a u-turn straight to hell, utterly pinned down by your diet. Baka schizo-san, uwuu
>>77231776low carb high protein is the easiest way to hit calorie count and get sufficient protein. you’ll get fats from meat, eggs, and dairy anyway.
>>77232217Being lean feels good. I hope you make it some day.Here's my second meal of the day. Same thing as before. Over 3000 calories already by lunch.
>keep waking up two hours after I fall asleep Is this sleep apnea?
>CARBS
>>77232224Looks good
MODS I will literally bribe you crypto of your choice if you rangeban the ketoschizo for a year.
>>77231420Not to defend a schitzo but athletes literally burn tens of thousands of calories a week. Unless you're doing that, I wouldn't adopt their diet
>>77232350No one here is adopting an athletes diet, don’t be daft.
IDGAF what ketononce says tbqh and neither should you. Just ignore him. He only posts his dogshit because you respond to it.
>>77231002holy shit a thin duck
>>77232135This is something that will take a lot of effort, far beyond losing weight.
>>77232156>The only way I found to escape the hunger and metabolism trap was unlimited calorie zero carb.Eating less is not some superhuman impossible task, but I must admit it does take some willpower and effort.
>>77232194Do you need to attack anyone who say anything not 100% positive to the point of being false about keto?
>>77232224Being able to go for a walk is good, any extreme diet that cripples you beyond this is not good for you, no matter how many times you try to say otherwise.
>>77232350You don't need to 10000 cal a day like a professional swimmer, but having enough energy to walk to the supermarket or hike a soft trail is good.
>>77232224Not only am I lean, I propably have double your muscle mass :3So you remove the fat from the beef? Tsk, tsk. Your 3lb of 80/20 beef is around 2550kcal with the thermic effect factored in. Remove the fat etc. and it's close to 2200kcal.
>>77232497>Not only am I lean, I propably have double your muscle mass :3You lie too much, I'm surprised you haven't said you're a hot girl to get someone to take your bullshit seriously yet.
>>77232500You doubt I have around double the muscle mass of ketoschizo?
>>77232504No, I thought it was him trying to boast that he has more muscle than others, it'd be very in character.
>>77231002Cruising along at 1.5-2lbs lost per week, carnivore is great
>>77232505Ah, I get it, fren. All united under the umbrella of ketoschizo hate.
>>77232350I burn 600kcal a day extra and so far it works. On that show The Biggest Loser they lost 10lbs a week doing 4-5,000kcal a day but we all know slow and steady wins the race. Im also not some retard thats gonna oreo ice cream cake and 2L Dr. Pepper/day max after hitting my goal weight
>Month 4 of eating 100g of sugar a day through sour gummies, while still losing weight steadily by keeping the calories in check and a shit ton of cardioShould I still expect to become one of those rare cases of getting diabetes while not being overweight?
>>77232552You are incredibly retarded.
>>77232307Kek
>>77232552That’s not rare chief and I have no idea why you’re filling yourself with crap day in and day out
>>77232538Same, nothing better to get along with others than common hatred, that's how I met my gf.
>>77232552>Just ruining your teeth for literally no reasonRetard
>>77232552This is so stupid, kek.
>>77232552I thought you were mainly supposed to eat fruit on the sugar diet and have candy sparingly. Its like ketoschizo thinking keto means unlimited saturated fats and not explaining why everyone has red skin and falling out hair
>>77232557>>77232554>>77232562You don't have to be mean about it, hmphBut yeah, I guess I should stop. Only reason I haven't it's because it hasn't made me fat, or given me cavities and I love sour gummies, but I don't want diabetes.>>77232571I'm not doing any particular diet. Just eating regular meals and those candies while being on a deficit.
anyone else hate fat people
>>77232584yes, that is why I will be killing myself shortly
>>77232584>yes I hate myselfThat's why I'm losing weight
>>77232586not what i meant>>77232587exactly what i meant
When I lost a lot of weight a random lady working at the haneda airport in Japan called me handsome. First time a random person just complimented me out of the blue
>>77232590Self hate probably isn't the most productive strategy, but it was a good motivator to take initial action. The redpill was starting to see results and then appreciating my body for withstanding the fucking neglect I gave it.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/mnfr.70394New study about carbs, "white carbs" especially.>>77232584hate fatties so much its'...>unreal?
I'm a cosplayer, and I'm so tired of everyone calling me fat all the time when I'm not. Thanks to my true Japanese heritage, I'm an XS, but I swear the cosplay companies always size their clothes down. Whenever I post pics of my cosplays, people always tell me that they don't fit and that I have "fat rolls" showing. It's NOT fat! They're lines from working out. They say that I would fit better in a "2XL". Really, 2XL when I'm that slim???? I eat a healthy diet of Japanese food due to my heritage so there's no way I would ever be overweight. Cosplayers are so mean. Don't they know I'm only just beginning to shine?
>>77232651Are you the owner of this forum?
>>77232651What was the point of this role play anon
>>77232651our queen is now achieving all her dreams with cico
>>77232804
The man tits are getting a lot more obvious as I'm losing more weight.Probably gonna need to get some compression undershirts soon.
>>77232842pics?
Is body recomp a meme? I've gone from 250 to 205 with a raw cut and just recently started going back to the gym with 5/3/1 hardgainers as the program intending to try and retain/gain some strength since I've definitely gotten weaker. Trying to get down to around 170-180 or 18% bodyfat by the end of July so I can go to the beach less ashamed and obeast. Is it possible or am I kidding myself?
>>77232844Losing 35lbs in two ish months while gaining muscle, extremely unlikely if not impossible without frauding. The deficit would have to be too steep to facilitate fat loss to allow you to also build considerable muscle, in that timeframe at least.
>>77232843Here, weirdo.
>>77232860>This is a blue board anon
>>77232851I kind of figured, I guess aiming for something like 22-24% and slimming out enough that I'm not love handled up would be better. Been stalled out at 205 for like 2-3 weeks now (almost like it started when I started going back to a gym routine) so the idea of going back to wasting away has been looking appealing although it's prob the worse option than trying to get to like 192 with better composition.
>>77232863If someone wants to find my hairy chest and belly and man boobs sexual, go for it I guess.
>>77232860wtf you're losing weight and your tits are getting bigger? w-what?
>>77232860thanks, have u posted a chest pic bfore? i think i may have saved that one too
>>77232875Yeah I dunno, just not losing the fat there for now? Who knows.
>>77232884oh man that's entirely new to me. ill have to watch out for that. i've got raisins going on , it's one of the things that made me decide enough was enough, now im wondering if i'm going to get bazongas
>>77232860>>77232884You’re prob just beginning to experience loose skin in that area. Loose skin will genuinely feel and look grim
>>77232889Yeah that makes sense.Check out how intense some of these stretch marks are.
>>77232889Loose skin is literally the worst part of trying to get lean. Fucking horrible morale nuke for what should be a boost.
>>77232890get some vitamin E on there man, some argan oil
>>77232906Like to rub on or what?I'll give it a try.
>>77232864>>77232844Recomp works, better for some. Since muscle takes more time to develop than fat to shed it's sort of an eternal balancing act, but becomes easy with experience. If you have time to throw into cardio and training it'll give you a better outcome than cut-bulk wave. Basicly it saves time if you have time for dedication. But since you're in a hurry I think a simple cut is your best option.
>>77232917Yeah. This is what I made. Sorry the formatting looks a bit fucked up on 4chan for some reason. |Unrefined shea butter|70g|Hydrates and nourishes dry skin| |Rosehip oil|15g|Vitamin A + C, supports skin repair & elasticity| |Argan or jojoba oil|14g|Lightweight, spreads easily| |Bakuchiol (liquid, 100% active)|0.5–1g (~10–20 drops)|Gives ~0.5–1% concentration, clinically effective| Making the mix: - **Melt the shea butter gently** over a double boiler (do not exceed 50°C).- **Remove from heat** and stir in rosehip + argan/jojoba oils. (1 tablespoon of each)- **Let mixture cool to below 40°C**, then add bakuchiol. Stir thoroughly.- **Pour into a clean, airtight jar** (preferably amber/opaque to protect from light).scrub your skin after the shower, apply to skin.1. **Cleanse** your face and neck.2. **Vitamin C serum** - 2–3 drops onto clean, dry skin. - Wait 1–2 minutes to let it absorb.3. **Bakuchiol + Shea Butter/Oil blend** (your “one jar”) - Take a thin layer, press gently over face, neck, and chest. - Provides hydration and delivers bakuchiol for collagen support.4. **Optional SPF** - In the UK, if you’re mostly indoors or it’s winter, this can be skipped. - If spending time outside, SPF 30+ is recommended on exposed areas. 1. **Cleanse** your skin.2. **Bakuchiol + Shea Butter/Oil blend** - Apply a thin layer to face, neck, chest, or body. - No waiting period needed — bakuchiol is gentle and stable. Take collagen peptides (Marine) in the morning. Can be added to tea/coffee/juice/water/yoghurt etc. Eat a protein based breakfast (e.g. eggs/bacon)
>>77232900Here the government gives a surgery to solve this, if you keep lean for a year.
>>77232973I've been preparing to start saving for the out of pocket expense in case my insurance doesn't cover it.
>>77232978I'm quite happy I've never had to deal with health insurance in my life.
>>77232533Based.
>>77232630>leading to significant body weight gain despite comparable caloric intakeOh no calorie bros. What is our response to this?
>>77233066the calories out changed because they were less active because the bread hurt their little rat tummies and made them nauseous
>>77233069What about the insulin? It seems that body composition might be determined by hormones not calorie measurements of the food we eat.>Wheat flour consumption was associated with reduced energy expenditure, increased adiposity, and elevated circulating insulin and leptin levels.>These findings demonstrate that wheat flour intake promotes obesity in mice primarily by decreasing energy expenditure and altering metabolic pathways independent of excess calorie consumptionBut that would mean that our keto enemies are correct and our calorie bros are wrong. Oh no.
>>77233076>>These findings demonstrate that wheat flour intake promotes obesity in mice primarily by decreasing energy expenditureliterally exactly what I said
>>77233079No you didn't. You blamed it on exercise. And you ignored this:>independent of excess calorie consumptionIf obesity is caused by hormones and metabolism, not the calorie measurement of our food or exercise then CICO is totally wrong.This is a disaster. Keto enemies are winning at reality. What do we do?Maybe we can get them banned if we throw a big enough tantrum.
>>77233060Another article by a professional shill trying to sell a diet. If the idea is to get lean by incapable of exercise, why not skip this keto crap and use medicine?
>>77233105>If the idea is to get lean by incapable of exerciseIf the idea is to get lean but incapable of exercise
Ever seen what 5’5” 390 looks like ?https://youtu.be/p5qFCejvGj0
>>77232973America just fucks you and makes you gamble on whether or not your insurance will cover it because we're a 3rd world nation masquerading as 1st world. I'm just hoping I can lose weight at a rate that doesn't leave a lot, and that I can bulk up a bit to counteract it.
Remember what you're doing it for
>>77233184crazy progress, how long did it take?
>>77233144I live in a 3rd world country, my friend.
>>77231062Learn to use the archives this is beyond cringe
>>77231084
>>77231180Go to an optometrist immediately
Fatty ContestFatCuntDownUnder109.5
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>>77231431If you have breakfast you aren't fasting
>>77231907>1lbThat's 4oz tops kek
>>77233066I posted the paper, because it shows some research into something we all know - wheat flour does some magic sheiiit. And it's interesting. It also said the mice on it gained lean mass compared to chew.Another part was about the fat + chow and fat + flour. How chow was totally left out in favor of either flour or fat. Same goyslop addiction mechanics.Read the whole thing.
>>77233313Positively grim. He doesn’t need keto, he needs a friend and hobby
after 4 months of losing 1kg every 10 days, now it's been 20 days without weight change. Are my weight loss days over /fit/?
>completely exhausted>fell to the delivery demon and got two subway footlongsLads is it fucking over? If I go for a walk will that even do anything?
>>77233490it's not over yet, don't let yourself fall deeper
>>77233490It's joever. You need to change your ways. Then it won't be oyvir.Also, why two footlongs? Why not just one? You're eating yourself into exhaustion. Unless you're an olympic level swimmer.
>>77233513>why two footlongsPure greed, I've been working hard to not fall for the delivery trap and I hadn't for 2 months, today I just relapsedI'm making progress but it's slow with a lot of steps backI am out on a walk right now thread
>>77233490I genuinely find hero sandwiches to be one of the most difficult things to recover from when it comes to weight. Theyre massive in calories and the body tends to take forever to debloat from them. It’s not actual weight gain unless you are going over your tdee, but it is demoralizing for a while nonetheless
>tfw zero good restaurants near me so I can't be tempted to eat out guess every negative has a positive with it
>weight has stalled for 2.5 weeks>migraine today that took me out all day>only ended up having watermaybe tomorrow...even though my weight hasn't gone down on the scale i feel better and look better than previously...i should have logged body measurements bah
>>77233448It's not magic. It's insulin. Body composition is determined by hormones.The study showed elevated insulin leading to obesity.Another nail in the coffin for flat calorie theory (aka cico).
>Keto schizo is still going
>>77232630It's over for calorietardation.
>/fit/ sticky is downI wonder who the perpetrator was.....
First meal of the day.~1500 calories
>>77233650>>77233675>>77233757Kek, you're funny!Yes, insulin plays a huge role. The magic of white carbs is how they differ from regular carbs. Your restricted diet causes pure sedentery skeleton mode, and it's time consuming & expensive. Not sure what all micros you're lacking, but you're definately malnourished compared to a balanced diet.Your few burger patties and addons are closer to 1000kcal, with the thermic effect included around 700kcal. And as the study pointed out, no carbs, no lean mass gain.You're just doing a very restricted cico. And it has made you utterly retarded :D>post body
>>77233786You seem upset.
>>77233786Do not reply to the ketoschizoHe just paid another person on fiverr and all
>>77233860But I want to play with the bot :3 He has no answers for certain things. Makes you wonder why.
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>>77233786"You're just doing a very restricted cico"what the fuck is "doing cico"? you mean calorie counting
>>77233889Cico is calories in, calories out. His restrictions are threefold: dietary (strict diet), calories in (eats naturally at maintenance) and calories out (sedentary).
>>77232930Got anything for hormonal back acne? Same shit works for that?
>>77233481Nah you hit a stall. Eat at maintenance for a week or so and then get back to a deficit
>35 y.o.>77 kgI've lost 4 kg in 4 weeks. I was 81 kg in March.
>>77233757You have no idea how to count calories.
>>77233962The calorie measurement comes from the nutrition info on the packaging.
>>77233082>If obesity is caused by hormones and metabolism, not the calorie measurement of our food or exercise then CICO is totally wrong.metabolism is the calories out, retard
>>77233995I'm glad we're in agreement
