>Who is /fat/ for?For Beach Bloatlords who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious: >>77231002
>>77234063Down 7kg since the start of March, waist down by 4cm, going on my evening walk in an hour to get some steps in, it feels very hard to eat more than 2000 calories now, feels good losing weight
>>77234077>Down 7kg since the start of March, waist down by 4cmGreat for you, anon. And this second part: >going on my evening walk in an hour to get some steps inIs even greater.
i hate le fatties so much its unrealsacrebleu
What are some good, cheap snacks that don't need refrigeration I can replace my sour gummies with?Maybe crackers with cream cheese?Beef jerky is too expensive here.
>>77234087>What are some good, cheap snacks that don't need refrigeration I can replace my sour gummies with?Learning to not snack would be better, but fruit is better than anything processed.
>>77234087>eating candy snacks>on /fat/lmao
>>77234087Have you tried eating a pound of nuts?
Counting calories does not work, it's an endless war with the body. There isn't an animal in the world that is counting calories, yet none of them have an obesity crisis.
>>77234091I usually just snack while prepping dinner to alleviate the slight dizziness in my head while I wait for the food to be done. I used to snack on tortilla chips, but it's very easy to overeat compared to jelly beans, but now I'm worried that the sugar will give me diabetes eventually.Plus the sour gummies only cost me around $7 a week, so it's really easy on my poorfag wallet.>>77234098I don't like nuts.
Relapsed, went from 160 to 206 pounds in a few months. Went from 206 to 177 in 10 weeks. Will he not overweight again in 2 weeks probably, going for 150 and staying there this time
>>77234087I like snacking on green grapes but I like them cold/put in the freezer for a little while. I'm sure they're still fine room temp too.
The candyass must be trolling
Meal #2. Total about 3000calories today already.
>>77234108Based and correct. Flat calorie theory is false.
>>77234119What did I do?
>>772341096/10 bait, better than ketoschizo mental illness, get a (you)
>>77234108>There isn't an animal in the world that is counting calories, yet none of them have an obesity crisis.Each day that passes you get stupider, obesity is a massive problem for dogs, cats, horses... and all livestock animals are obese by default.
Eat steak and cauliflower a day and you'll get lean in no time.
I stopped counting calories after a couple of weeks and all has been wellJust don't fucking overeat, idiot
>>77234134Why am I getting accused of trolling?I'm still in a caloric deficit, though I should point out that I do a lot of running and boxing, so it definitely helps.Ketoshizo is in a caloric deficit too, I mean look at his small as burger patties lol
>>77234145/fat/ is just more retarded than usual
>>77234123>3000 caloriesyou will never lose fat if you keep doing this
>>77234136Remember the>we wuz lionscope? Lol. He forgot about gorillas.>>77234123That's another ~700kcal max. Since you're clearly not consuming the juices it's propably less. Kek.
>>77234145Now you're trying too hard. >>77234153>cope? Lol. He forgot about gorillas.There's also the issue of zoo animals usually being obese.
Theyre replying to the schizo againMaybe fatties can’t learn
>>77234153>That's another ~700kcal max.Even if it has 3000kcal or 30000kcal, it doesn't really matter. A ketogenic diet cripples you to the point where you can't do basic physical activities, feel good or think straight. You're better off with ozempic than with this.
>>77234157Indeed. It's just funny how he lies so much.
Been stuck at this weight for close to a month but my pants are now to big... idk if thats a feels good moment or if I should be trying harder again since I know exactly where a problem could be that I can fix, but its one of the laat enjoyments food-wise in my diet
I wonder if these protein bars i had been eating for lunch was causing some bloating or something. Ever since I cut them out and started making tuna or turkey wraps for lunch my plateau stopped.
For ketolards. Keto works if you combine in with CICO. I have a fucked up visceral fat. I had to stop drinking for 5 weeks to start clearing it up. The whole dumbfuck meme that you can eat 4000 kcal a day and lose weight as long as it is low carb is fucking insane. You are only making it easier for the liver by lowering sugar intake but it will still have to work hard to process protein and dietary fat. The reason why keto works is two fold: 1) it removes some of the high calorie foods like breads, fruit and milk chocolate; 2) it forces you to eat foods that are very low in sugar but are generally low calorie unless you eat them in very large amounts. It's generally not that easy to swallow a kilo of beef steak, and 400-500 grams will keep you satiated for a day normally. Another thing is plants. Root "plants" like potatoes and carrots are generally higher in calories and sugars, but if you stick to leafy greens like spinach, broccoli or cauliflower you'll have way less than tubers or wheat. Also they are very low calorie. An important caveat is dairy: ketolards who drink milk forget that lactose in milk is also a sugar, just like fructose (fruits) or starch glucose (from grains and tubers). That's why milk requires fermentation, preferrably those long ass aged hard cheeses like fermentation to reduce the number of carbs in milk to a keto-friendly level. Same goes with nearly all bacon/salami/sausage products out there. Look closely at the contents and you will see either corn flour, starch or dextrose. Preserved meat requires some added carbs for the bacteria that dehydrates it to get attracted to it before the meat starts to rot. Bacon is just starched up pork. You're better off eating raw ground pork for the freezer. But don't be fooled. Just because you keep your carb intake below 30, 20 or even 10 g a day, won't make you lean unless you lower your calorie intake significantly enough.
Maybe I'll go with crackers, tuna and a bit of mayo for the snack I guess.
>>77234242What's wrong with pure refined sugar?
>>77234234I should also add, eating a shitton of meat especially organ meat is poisoning your blood. DNA molecules aka purines will pile up in your blood and cause purine salt layers in your joint. Result? Painful arthritis known as Gout. The way your body processes protein is by breaking it into useful amino acids in the stomach, that's why protein is so highly recommended by doctors. Those amino acids are needed for muscle growth and plenty of other stuff, but they need to be purified of nitrogen by the liver. Unlike carbs (sugars) the excess protein is not converted into glycogen to become body fat, but it is converted into ammonia- which is a poison. That's where you need healthy liver - that ammonia is converted into urea. Urea is excreted when you piss. If you notice that you started going to the joint more frequently than usual it's a warning sign you need to calm down on the protein.
>>77234109Make jello with half as much water, and pout it in a shallow pan. Then cut it into tiny cubes.
>>77234087Here in Japan we have small dried squid snacks and cod roe cheese sticks, usually around 60-100 kcals per pack, perfect for night cravings, you can try looking for something similar. It might be TOUGH at first if you are accustomed to chugging a full bag of Doritos and the like, but later you will appreciate that daily small snack. Try chewing them properly as well.
>>77234111Good luck!
>>77234153Its clearly a troll
>>77234253Can you post a picture? Maybe I'll try and find some or get some online.
Why does alcohol have so many calories
>>77234264It doesn't. A macro with no nutrients, tho.
>>77234264Deterrent
>>77234234>That's why milk requires fermentation, preferrably those long ass aged hard cheeses like fermentation to reduce the number of carbs in milk to a keto-friendly level.Another note here: milk doesn't contain purines which are toxic and cause Gout. However, fermentation is required to reduce carbs in milk down to anywhere between 0.1 to 1 gram of carb per 100 gram of ready product. Aged cheeses are the best sources of protein you can get.>inb4 0% fat greek yogurtGreek yogurts are full of carbs. You get about a 10:3 protein to carb ratio, if not worse. In general the more viscous the product is (yogurts, kefirs, ayrans, cottage cheese, skyr, etc.) the more sugar it has per 100 g. Replacing those with hard fermented cheese is ideal.
>>77234253Closest I have is crab flavoured surimi fish protein sticks, 200g for 1.55euro. Maybe I'll try those.Arigatou
>>77234264>Why does alcohol have so many caloriesEthanol is broken down by the liver and the calories are taken into your body from the resulting acetate. Acetate comes from acetaldehyde, which is a poison that your liver works hard to flush out. Drinking is not good for you.t. alcoholic
>>77234258This sort of snack is called "tsumamimono/otsumami" and the idea is to pair alcohol with them, but I just pick them because the portions are small and usually fish/meat/cheese derived ones are half protein or more. I prefer packed stuff because I lose control with bigger bags. When I am close to finishing the diet cycle I go for surume soumen, they are noodly so you can take your time chewing a full package if you go one by one.
>>77234253Those squid snacks are super good and tend to be far more fresh than in the states. Can’t wait to have them again when I go back soon
>>77234276>In general the more viscous the product is (yogurts, kefirs, ayrans, cottage cheese, skyr, etc.) the more sugar it has per 100 g.here's proof. You get 10x less sugars from cheddar than from whole milk.
>>77234297Balanced diet chads can have carbs
>>77234329carbs are totally fine in a balanced diet. If you have a fatty liver or visceral fat, it's better to cut them down to a minimum. Besides, carbs are a must have if you're working out frequently.
>>77234295I love them but some of then get in my gums, still better than peanuts/crackers nutrition profile-wise
>check forums and ask around about low cal beers that don't taste like shit >try coors light anon>tastes like piss water and not even sure if it's got alcohol in itwhy can't mutts make decent beer?>only 29kcal per 100ml thoughwould rather drink my own piss tbqh.
>>77234359Add vodka to carbonated hops-water. Tastes much like pidor beer.
>>77234063how do i beat emotional eating?i pig out when i'm angry. and i cannot deal with the source of my anger. i need to stop myself from eating when i'm angry. how?today was going well at 1,000 calories then i got angry and pigged out on 1,300 additional calories ruining the day. repeat every couple of days of anger and my week suffers a ~1,900-2,100 calories average.does fasting work?
I'm glad I didn't get into alcohol
>>77234386>how do i beat emotional eating?Personally I really like to go to the gym or fight (BJJ) when angry, it makes the anger go away, the results are better than usual and it's quite enjoyable.
>>77234386It’s tough but you need to keep the food out of the house and ask yourself if you’re really hungry every time you’re about to eat something that’s not part of your square meals
>>77234398i get sudden anger that persists for hours and wears me down until i eati tried lifting at home but it did nothing. will a gym be any different?>>77234414i ask myself this and know i want to eat because of the anger and i still eat in the end because i can't outlast my anger
>>77234386>>77234422Just pick up boxing, mang.
Hello everyone. I am obese. Who else here is obese?I went from weighing 133kg to weighing 113kg now, over a period of 4-5 months.Main reason why I was prompted to lose weight was suspected idiopathic intracranial hypertension, which caused permanent blind spots in my vision and pulsatile tinnitus which gave me trouble trying to fall asleep. I was also diagnosed with fatty liver disease. Now the tinnitus is almost gone, I find it much easier to fall asleep. The blind spots, I assume, are permanent. Liver hormones (ALAT) also have responded very well with weight loss, will have another blood test soon. I expect them to be in the normal range now.My face looks noticeably leaner and more attractive now too, and it's much easier and more pleasant to walk. My goal is to get to around 80kg and to become a person someone would genuinely describe as lean. My success so far gives me hope that it's possible.What is your story?
>foodboring>the same food but with the word protein in front of itHORY SHEEEET
>>77234422>i get sudden anger that persists for hours and wears me down until i eatPick a fight you enjoy this anger will be both useful and enjoyable. >i tried lifting at home but it did nothing. will a gym be any different?At least for me, it's different, the act of going out, changing the environment helps
Visiting family and have to go out with parents for dad’s birthday tonight and I know I’m gonna eat like a pig. Fml
>>77234484Obese. Lost my job in 2020 and never managed to find another until about a year ago. I sat on my fat ass and drank and ate and never went outside and guess what happened? I was 112 kg on my birthday, started seeing tits appear. It was the straw that broke the camels back. 3 months later and i'm 101 now. Soon to be just "overweight" and honestly for the first time im excited to be called "overweight" because it's not "obese". Goal weight 83kg which is top end of healthy weight for my height / age / whatever. Super happy with my loss, but to be honest I look in the mirror / at the photo progress and i'm not seeing it. But I still have a lot of work to do I suppose. Thanks for reading my blog.
>>77234517Thank you for sharing your story. Your goal weight is similar to my goal weight. You mentioned drinking. Did you stop drinking?I also drinked a bit but a few months into losing weight I decided to drop it completely because it was bad for my liver (I have fatty liver) and also because it has too many calories.
>>77234528for all intents and purposes, yes. I will have a drink on special occasions, or when we have a staff event at work, but i'll limit myself to like 2 light beers or glass of wine then swap back to water. I was drinking quite heavily before. I would have said I thought I didn't have a problem as I wasn't getting drunk, passing out, doing bad shit when drinking but i was very often having like 8 beers on a night just sitting at my PC drinking and watching YT or playing vidya. Now I probably have 3-4 drinks per month. Sometimes none. When you find out how many calories are in things, it was like i was having my BMR in drinks alone before even counting the food. And drinking led to bad food choices too (like Pizza lol)
>>77234484>I went from weighing 133kg to weighing 113kg now, over a period of 4-5 months.congrats, you did a very good job. A lot of people find it hard to lose even 1-2 kgs in 2-3 months.>I was also diagnosed with fatty liver disease.See my diet advice on avoiding carbs >>77234234>>77234276. I've had liver issues as well but nothing as severe as that.>My goal is to get to around 80kg and to become a person someone would genuinely describe as lean. My success so far gives me hope that it's possible.It's very possible. I used to be 100 kg and at one point after that I went down to 65 kg. I'm 76 kg now but I hope I can get within my "normal" BMI range in a few weeks (around 74-75 kg). My only big challenge recently was alcohol. I've stayed sober for 5 weeks straight for the first time in 9 years and I'll be trying to start bodybuilding once I get lean.
>>77234555>See my diet advice on avoiding carbs >>77234234Just read your advice, this actually sensible and good. Good work anon.
>>77234582yeah, lowering calories is the one big thing that works, but if you want to heal your liver AND get rid of the visceral fat (a big portion of which is stored in liver) you also have to lower carbs. Always read the contents and make sure you keep carbs to the minimum. Lots of "traditionally preserved" products like bacon have starch or dextrose in them. Read the nutrition label before buying stuff.
so hungry...
>>77234484Formerly obese, recently crossed into healthy BMI territory feels good bros, WAGMI
>>77234638what helps me stave off hunger is tea. Green tea with lemon during the day and herbal tea with camomille and lavander after 6 PM.
>>77234606Low carbs is generally a good diet, it's what I've been following, the problem is when people want to pretend it's a magic trick that solve all issues.
at the depressing phase where to keep losing 1% body weight per week i can only eat ~1400 calories per daygrim
>>772347031400 kcal is more than enoughremember what ur fighting for
>>77234082>Is even greater.I signed up for that 1200km challenge in MapMyRun so that's like an extra incentive, I try to go for 10-11km a day
Back down to 169 today after a little bit of binging where I shot back up to 201, mostly in water weight, after five days of binging on salty soups and Powerade.It's probably not a good idea to gain and lose 32 pounds in 9 days. I'll be better.155 is new goal by end of May.
>>77234712yeah for sure, i just wanted to whine because i'm having to shift from the "just don't eat like a complete idiot" mode that was enough to get results at my starting point to a more strict "really on a diet" modehaving to actually count the calories strictly every day and be responsible with food choices with low room for error because being like 200 calories over means i blew it is getting me downbut 1400 is still enough to not feel bad physically and i know the better i stick with now it the the faster i can return to eating at maintenanceso thanks for the encouragement
I did keto today just to drain my glycogen levels and feel like death
>>77234703>>77234736Past... there are options, stalker. Have you heard of:>cardioand>resistance training
>>77234735You're retarded, you did not gain and lose 40 lbs in 9 days, not even in water.
>>77234740Why would you intentionally drain your glycogen? It just means you're going to cause more catabolism during long cardio sessions.
>>77234744>32lbs rather, still. This did not happen or your scale is out of whack
>>77234743yeah, i might be underestimating the calories i burn through exercise but i do 40 minutes of cardio 5x a week and lift 3x a week and my 1400 calorie target is accounting for that. i'm just very short
>>77234752I don’t do long cardio sessions
>>77234515I had a nightmare last night where I was at a restaurant and felt socially obligated to order dessert even though I was full.
>>77234744>>77234753I did. And I verified it with two different scales, gym and home. You can, too. Just consume 10 cans of progresso soup and 10 Powerades for 5 days in a row.
>>77234774
>>77234774Yeah sure, you casually gained and lost 15L of water in 9 days from eating soup, which is comparable to an extreme water cut that an MMA heavyweight would undergo pre weigh-in. You're retarded.
>>77234774do you have an inflation fetish or something>>>/d/
>>77234802No, I was just having fun eating soup.>>77234790I didn't say it was smart. I regret it. It made me look very fat.
Being able to say no when relatives offer you tasty food is the greatest struggle, one which I have overcome for now
>>77234774Is this the intelligence of nu 4chan
out of caloriesstill hungyfml
>>77234151I've been lean for a decade now. Unlimited calories, zero carb, sedentary.
>>77234157>muh physical activitiesDr Shawn Baker eats a zero carb diet.
I like feeling hungry
>>77234234Bacon isn't low calorie.>I expected that even though I was eating 2500 calories a day, an increase of 500 calories a day for me, that I would not gain much weight, I already knew that eating fat and protein doesn't make you fat.>The biggest and most unexpected change was losing so much body fat in the 30 days. I lost 19.6 pounds by the end of the monthhttps://ketogasm.com/the-bacon-experiment-interview/
>>77234606Low sodium bacon usually also has no sugar. I buy kirkland brand.
>77234841Anon you posted this fiverr picture yesterday, please buy a new one
>>77234851>The same spam I'm multiple threads every day.
is coffee good for you?
Last day of Keto. 4 stone lost in 4 months. WAGMI!(Jk, see you all again in 6 months)
>>77234868>looking so good I get called a paid modelPretty good for an unlimited calorie diet without exercise.Here's my 3rd meal of the day. Ran out of sauerkraut. Total calorie estimate >4000kcal today. This is my usual daily intake.
>yaps with the same shit againyawn
>>772348994000?
>>77234841>Unlimited calories,Lie.>zero carb,Lie.>sedentary.True.Now post body!
>>77234721How does this works?>>77234844>>77234851Here comes the mentally ill liar.
>>772349153lbs 80/20 ground beef and 270g extra old cheddar. I didn't bother estimating the sauerkraut because presumably it is negligible.
>down maybe 2lbs in nearly 2 months after a deficit and strength training 3 or 4 days a week>clothes feeling slightly looser, noticing more muscle definition, getting compliments from people, and even got a smile out of my crushMan i really should have been measuring and taking more pictures, this scale is really bugging me
>>77234928A shame you crippled yourself into being incapable of doing physical activity or thinking straight, isn't it?Guess lying and trying to put people down 17 hours a day is all that is left.
>>77234931This is great anon, are you doing SS?
>>77234931The scale bugs me too kek. Some days you just feel and look less fat and it’ll really show the same weight
>>77234934>i need muh carbs for muh physical activityCarb addict cope.Dr Shawn Baker eats a zero carb diet. He has no problem with physical activity.
This guys really sucking off shawns cock. Third of fourth time he mentioned him
>>77234851>Bacon isn't low calorie.I never said it is. The point was that bacon has either starch, dextrose, corn flour or maltodextrin in it. It's used to give it texture and coloring. But that's not what makes bacon shit food necessarily. It's that it's much more calorie dense and it contains way more dietary fat than other preserved alternatives, e.g. ham. Ham is the leanest of all preserved meats with anywhere between 80 to 150 kcal per 100 grams of of ham. Still, ham often also includes dextrose or starch for preservation.
>>77234944I guess you can do exercises if you heavily use steroids and lie about your diet, like shawn baker or liver king did.But if one actually follow a long term keto diet and doesn't take trenbolone, he'll be incapable of enduring a mild walk.
>>77234952After liver king and everyone else he sucked was shown to be lying both on being natty and on their actual diet, this shawn or whatever is the only one left to use to justify the preaching.
>>77234926I've heard claims that being on ketosis for extended periods of time takes a heavy toll to the brain, similar to the lack of nutrients and protein vegans often face.
>are you really going to wait until your hairline starts to recede and your face have lines before you lock in?
Am I wasting my time by walking instead of ROONING?
>>77234953Lean is bad, actually. Humans need dietary fat.>>77234954>nooo stop setting records without eating carbs NOOOStay seething carb addict. If carbs made people athletic you'd be a champion, but here you are permanently fat and upset.
Another article spam yawn
>>77234963Can your knees endure running with your current weight and do you enjoy running?
>>77234963Running uses primarily glycogen as fuel source (high heart rate), walking uses fat. Walking is better for your joints, and is a form of active recovery. Depending on your stats, yeah, you might pick up rooning. But to lose fat keep walking still. Have carbs and around 6h between resistance training and rooning.
>>77234966>If carbs made people athletic you'd be a champion, but here you are permanently fat and upset.Every single athlete consume a lot of carbs, even those who made a career of pretending to only eat meat, like the liver-king you used to suck 10 times per thread, remember?
I HAVE SHIT FIVE TIMES TODAYFULL BIG BOY SHITS NOT DIARRHEAIM RUNNING OUT OF TOILET PAPERMY ASSHOLE BURNSI HAVE TO SHIT AGAINFUCK
>>77234962so much hotter before im not even joking
>>77234962He's got a head like a fetal alcohol syndrome baby, but that's a crazy transformation.
>>77235011He's got weird proportions and probably skips leg day since he's bow legged. Definitely roiding for those arms.
>>77234899Ketobros...
It's a new month, which allows me to see today's date as a threshold - the 27th "fresh start" in a 4-year yo-yo diet where I gain and lose the same 6 kg over and over again. Will be trying a strategy of alternating high carbohydrate and high fat intake, hoping my body will never realize it's deficient in any one macro...Also toying with the idea of doing one weekly binge. The idea is that, at present, binges inevitably happen every 3-4 days, so knowing I'll allow myself a binge on a given weekday will actually lower my caloric intake by making it psychologically easier not to succumb to cravings at random. >1350-1500 calories is intolerable if it's forever. >800 kcal is totally manageable if I know there's a 2800 kcal refeed around the corner.
>>77235024That’s a block of butter!!!!
>>77235064I wish. Look at the edge definition, it looks like some store brand block of ”cheddar”
>>77234063short one today it was cold n wet we will get after it more this weekend
>>77235048That sounds... mad. But hey, you do you. With so many repeats with yoyoing you clearly are mad, so doing mad things is normal.
>>77235066Isn't cheddar supposed to have some colour?
>>77235069>reddit icon cringe
Tomorrow should be the big one. I should be down 100lbs tomorrow.Then another 150ish to go.
>>77235024It's a 90g piece of cheese and 3 1/3rd lb 80/20 beef patties.
>>77235098Nice work big fella, keep at it.
>>77235090>knowing what a reddot icon issad
>>77235103because I see the memes on 4chinz cholo
>>77235069Not only do you use reddit, you use the fucking app. Lmfao
>>77235099Sure it is, little guy, sure it is. And you drank the juices, right?>in reality this guy eats 2100kcal max, which after thermic effect is around 1700kcal.Unlimited calories, kek.
>>77235105>uses 4chinlmao
>>77235099Yeah, okay retardThis is what an actual lb of beef patties looks like.
>>77234944Some people are on a crusade against 'low carb' nutrition. Maybe they even are political influencers?My body doesn't tolerate carbs that well and I feel so much better when I eat salad/broccoli/olive oil/protein. I still use lemon juice as seasoning and some other stuff but it's mainly ~50g or way less most of the time.Problem is that it's easy to get addicted to eating like a slob, and time and time again I feel like eating a full subway sandwich and potato chips. But it's not a big deal if it happens once or twice a month or so.
The idea that you could consume extreme excess calories of meat and not gain weight is inherently retarded. No one is that stupid.I assume he's just trolling with phrases like 'flat calorie theory'. Why? I don't really know. My guess is that it's some extreme version of European boredom. Take up a hobby.
>>77235130>I assume he's just trollingyes anon. daily. for several weeks now.
>>77235130Just be sensible about your consumption. Just because it is called low carb that doesn't mean that you should drown yourself in butter or anything else for that matter.It's not rocket science either.
>>77235138years. this faggot is prime NGMI material.
>just quit sugarWhy can't fatties do it?
He’s posting TikTok now
>>77235159The new mouse study will start researching it next. The worst combo is white flour and fat.
>>77235121>Some people are on a crusade against 'low carb' nutrition.Nah, people are just putting the ketoschizo in his place. He lies and spam too much.
>>77235162Wait until he starts to reply to himself pretending to be someone else and calling him "keto chad", kek
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>>77235189
>>77235195
I think we buckbroke him lol
Back to the start. Just need to remember how I did it all last time. Start calculating TDEE, start eating better, cut out shitty snacks, walk more. Just remember how good it felt to finally start buying smaller clothes. I've done it once, I can do it again.
>>77235208How much weight gain back bro
>3 am>drunk>stuffed
>>77235200Nah, he's too retarded to learn from his mistakes, or stop doing them. He's as pesky as a brown pidor shill. Which would point towards him being one.
>>77235263Isn't pidor a Russian slur for americans? >>77235200I hope so.>>77235208How much you'll have to lose?
>>77235271>Isn't pidor a Russian slur for americans?It could be. It's a Russian slur meaning 'faggot'
>>77235279I looked for the ethimology, apparently it's a short version of "piderast", kek.
>>7723524910pm drunk full
>>77235219Probably 15kg at this point since December
>>77235357>+15 kgs in 4 monthsOuch
My meals today>3 egg omelet with a little parmesan grated in, kiwi fruits>3 air fried chicken breasts with green beans, peas, cauliflower, carrots>half a canned baked beans with a few meatballs
>>77235357wtf happened? whyd u slip?
>>77235121It's vegans and bucket crabs.The anti-keto posters never post body.
>quit creatine a week ago>hit new PRs in the gym left and rightSo it really was doing nothing
>>77235130You're simply wrong. It's literally impossible for a human to become obese from protein, no matter what the calorie measurement of said protein is.I am sure you will never acknowledge reality. CICO was never based on reality in the first place so no matter how many studies contradict it the flat calorie theorists still believe.>consuming a hypercaloric high protein diet does not result in an increase in body fat.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4022420/
>>77235208>Back to the start.Another CICO failure. Same story every time.If you were smart you'd try something different.
>stagnated weight for 2 weeks>wondered about what I did wrong despite my caloric tracking.>randomly dropped 1 kg in 2 daysI fucking hate water weight.
>>77235403>>77235405>>77235407And the schizo continue his compulsive spamming of lies.17 - 18 hours a day, 7 days a week, for the past 6 years. This is literally all there exist in someone's life.
>>77235387He did CICO.
>>77235208>I've done it once, I can do it again.same. This is my second time as well.Just keep up the consistency
>>77235208Being persistent is the hardest part, but you can do it.
>>77235415>do cico>it doesn't work>convince yourself it worked>do it againSucks to be a CICO believer.
>>77235416Not with CICO he can't.
>>77235414No, he didn't, you retard. He quit doing cico, and that's why he gained weight.Your entire argument is >"cico doesn't with when you quit burning more calories than you consume."Find a hobby.
>>77235420>>77235418Ketoschizo, why you lie so much? I get you don't have a family, or friends, or job, or hobby and that your body is incapable of going for a walk, and your brain has sequelae from years of malnourished.But lying and shilling non-stop is a very bad way of para-socialize, even you should be able to notice this after 6 or 7 years, shouldn't you?
>>77235422>Find a hobby.Very mean on your part to say this, what hobby can he get with a body and brain damaged by years of malnourished, without any amount of social skill and without any trace of good will toward others? Shilling the same lie for every single awaken hours of every day may be unironically all he can do.
>>77235422>withwork*
Reading the one obese anons post about losing weight and hoping to get blood work done to check on his liver enzymes, it reminded me of my own liver problems and I wanted to share to see if anyone here has a clue. When I was going through a medical scare and losing a ton of weight, I got a CT scan of my abdomen and tons of blood work done. One of the findings was that I had an enlarged liver at over 16" (normal is smaller than 12".) I was morbidly obese at the time and had a diet that would give a trucker pause and never exercised. Despite this, my liver enzymes were and still are rock bottom like almost dead non functional liver levels. We're talking ALT of like 15 and AST of 8 (the numbers might be reversed for each thing it's been awhile I forget.) I'm below normal range for both. How is it possible that I have such a bad diet, morbidly obese, no exercise, very poor cardiovascular health, insulin resistance, enlarged liver, and yet my liver enzymes are so low that it's almost non functional and yet doctors didn't say shit? Someone make sense of that for me.
>>77235444>How is it possible that I have such a bad diet, morbidly obese, no exercise, very poor cardiovascular health, insulin resistance, enlarged liver, and yet my liver enzymes are so low that it's almost non functional and yet doctors didn't say shit?Shitty doctors are more than it seems.
>>77235445We really are on our own aren't we? It's fucking crazy. Then you go on and read people's public forum posts logging their journey with these conditions and you see all the findings they make from their own determination and pushing medical workers to do their fucking jobs but it'll be too late for them and they're too far gone to fix. You wonder if you're too far gone yourself. It's terrifying. Fuck it I'm fasting tomorrow and see how long I can go. I either cave in and continue being a shit head or I can keep it going and heal as quickly as possible.
>>77235450>We really are on our own aren't we?I once found a good doctor in my late teen years and stuck with him, but yeah, it's fucked up.
>lost over 50 pounds, at a healthy range now with 10 more to go >dig through photos for dating app>have to scroll hard because I rarely took pics due to being fat asf >see my pics when I was 200+>eye raped but clear progression take more photos my niggas
>>77235444I just learn to read the report on my own because of shit like this.Like you wouldn't be an expert, but at least you would notice some problems and question them about it.
Fatty ContestProngs793.2 kg
the only reason I lift is because I'm too ashamed to get a full body massage while I'm out of shape
Fatty Contestogreps95.4 kg0.2kg is not that satisfying after eating eating ~1400kcal most of the week with high neat + training but I guess the reading last week was abnormally low.
Fatty contestMikey129257.5lbs
Stop overthinking it and just enjoy the moment
>>77235601BRAAAAAAP
>up 3lbs from last weeki'm not going to make it this time
I've lost 70 pounds since Lent started. I'm down to 250 pounds. 90 more pounds to go.
new monthnew meI do better this time
>>77234063~84.5kg, down from 94kg from September 2025, and was probably +100kg before that, BF% probably around ~20% (idk, those online measurements give me erroneous readings). Finished a one month mini-bulk (more like maintenance really, only went up +1kg, I find that cuts are easier when it's a relief that you no longer need to force-feed yourself. Beat some PRs, very fun) and starting cut today. The aim is to try and get under 80kg at least once.How important is fat intake really? I had set a daily target of 70g with 50g minimum, and didn't get over 40g a lot of the time, ended up with an average of slightly under 50g. I should probably try to increase fat intake by a little bit.In the last cut (Jan-Mar) I found that I got very fatigued. I think it might have been made worse by the 30min cardio sessions I'd do after lifting, does it make sense to separate cardio and lifting days? Like when I get home after the cardio I feel like doing nothing except doomscrolling in bed, can't be healthy.Anyway good luck to you other faggots. Autistically collecting data on this stuff is very fun as well as useful, everyone should do it.
>>77235541How far have you gotten? Where did you start and where are you now? Have you had a fully body massage yet?
>>77235704210 to 160 for the second time (first time I was just overweight and second time was a cut ). I haven't gotten the massage and wouldn't because I'm still ashamed of my body. but it does look a lot more better and vascular now I think
>>77235712You lost 50 lbs and look vascular and you're still ashamed? I put it to you that you might need to be a bit more confident in yourself. That's impressive man, how long did it take you? Took me like 6 months to go from ~215 to 185.
Recommended post exercise fruit?
>>77235721banana
>>77235405>this Mexican said it, so it's trueGrow up.
Fatty ContestNatFigger168.5lbs
>>77235721the quark fruit
You can loss the fat.Can you lose the autism though?
>>77235765Weird how you become less of a creepy autistic weirdo as you lose weight and get more money, and women find you more a quirky interesting guyCurious innit
>>77235768>talk about anime girls openly>still have women sending me their pics Being a fat ass is infinitely worse than a weeb creep.
Fatty ContestMoonAndStar116.2kg
>>77234197Yeah bloating is a cursed feeling. I woas my kost bloated at my most leanest. I think I had dieted for too long and fucked up my gut health somehow. Poops were like shitting sharp rocks, blood everytime i went to bathroom. I was miserable but I looked pretty good. Im learning how to do it better this time round, dont ever want to go through that again
>>77235422If it didn't work long term then it didn't work. The goal is to stay lean, not have a temporary drop in weight then regain it.CICO causes weight regain due to increased hunger and lowered metabolism, therefore it doesn't work.
>>77235387I guess I let a negative coworker get into my head and got myself into situations i didnt want to be in but pretended i was ok with. Then id just go home every night and eat myself sick while playing vidya.
>>77235444Checked. I was like 100lbs over weight for 10 years and even though im better than this now i still have hypertension and slightly high cholesterol to show for it. Not super worried, I feel ok. Liver and kidneys and blood sugars are all really good surprisingly.
>>77235822oh wait I lost .9kg this is good actually
SylveonXGlaceon Not logging this into the fatty contest but I now weigh 312.4 lbsSo I'm going to fast for a bit Staying this weight is not good for my healthDay 0/31
Fatty ContestNapoli71.2kgPlanning to only lift for muscle retention this month and focus on pure fat loss. Also going to try cardio'ing a bit outdoors before the REAL real summer heat kicks in. WAGMI
>>77235875Lmao all you've done is gain weight and you think your going to fast for 31 days? Peak comedy
>>77235890He's not saying he's going to fast for the whole month, just that he is doing a month of weight loss, starting with a fast. That said, he might be a bitch and not even manage that.
>>77235877I'm going to a goal of 155 this month. I'm like 5kg heavier than you. Meet you there.
>>77235841Find a hobby, schizo.
>>77235898Got a good feeling about this month, we got this in the bag brother. Make haste, anon, you deserve this win.
>>77235405Why not highlight the entire conclusion? Oh yeah, it doesn't support your agenda. You're sedentary.>Consuming 5.5 times the recommended daily allowance of protein has no effect on body composition in resistance-trained individuals who otherwise maintain the same training regimen. This is the first interventional study to demonstrate that consuming a hypercaloric high protein diet does not result in an increase in body fat.>resistance-trained individuals who otherwise maintain the same training regimen
>>77235721None.
>>77235486
>>77235902My hobby is rescuing people from the CICO hoax which causes obesity and was invented by big sugar.
>>77235915The relevant part is how excess calories ("hypercaloric") don't add body fat. Therefore CICO is false.
>>77235924No it isn't, you dimwit. Yesterday you were pushing a hyperfat diet, now you're pushing a hyperprotein one?Go try out your own methods a month without lying. Also, post body. Not a shirt, but body.
>>77235208You can do it anon, I believe in you.>>77235409Waiting for this too.
Fatty ContestClaymore_lover95.8kg
>>77234927>How does this works?You basically have to just walk 1200km by the end of this year, that's it, but because I have an OCD where I need to complete everything I start it will make me walk more and more to complete it faster
I want to get these last 9 lbs off to finally be under 200 againProbably going to do some dumb shit like rolling 2 or 3 day fasts to get it off asapI should just stay on my course, but this is a big psychological landmark
200lb today.I'm predicting 170lb some time in August.Life truly is a spectacular thing.
Fatty ContestFairySchizo 227.2 lbs>>77235951Grats, below 200 is indeed a big deal
>>77235890Wouldn't be the first time I've failed. Thanks for laughing at me, my clown antics are finally being seen for their true nature it seems. I'll try extra hard this time so be sure to laugh again when I fail. >>77235894No he got it right. I will lose the weight and I'll do it with a long fast to start, with the goal being to not eat for the entire month of MayI'll keep making daily updates through posts I make here while I continue to not eatThe main problem is keeping myself distracted. I'll probably just masturbate a lot to keep myself occupied for the first 5 days or so. Beyond that the momentum of longer fasts tend to carry themselves. This wouldn't be the first time I've ever gone more than 5 days without eating solid food, but if completed it would be the longest I've ever done but not quite double the length of the second longest.
starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8current weight: 84.7 kg 1/5goal weight: 70 kgheight: 179 cmmethod: rolling 72s with water and coffee, starting on 18/1 to 2/3 i did rolling 48s.
>>77236010good job. what do you usually eat on refeed day?
>>77235159why do you have this video saved? why did you upload it? why are you weird?
>>77234845
Why does it take so long to get rid of groin fat
>>77235986Extreme behavior is the true fatmind hallmark. You're doomed to fail. The journey is about consistency, not panic. I guess you have a long way to go until you'll take it seriously. Until then you're just waisting time & wrecking your body and mind. But hey, have fun doing it!
>>77235922That's not a hobby, that's a delusion. You are a piece of shit.
>>77235986>with the goal being to not eat for the entire month of MayYou are a retard
>>77236039Groin, thigh/ass and lower abdomen fat are the same "zone", the first to arrive, the last to leave.
>>77235877Lifting for muscle growth is probably what got me fat
>>77235913Why did the cow jump over the road?
>>77236055>Why did the cow jump over the road?To get to the udder side
>>77236046Post body.
>>77236082>no, u:3Post your real body, not some shirt
>>77236010Been doing rolling fasts myself (~48-72 hours, not super strict about it), partly inspired by you, and I've lost 10 lb in the last 3 weeks or so. Finally below 200 lb for the first time since before Covid.I've fasted before but I'm surprised at how well it's been working
Guess I'll wait for next thread to ask my very serious question/blog cry
Fatty Contest TwinkEnjoyer 62.2kg
>>77236128>twinkenjoyer>is a twink
>>77236084Sure, right after you post body with timestamp so I can make an image comparison.
>>77235922>>77235924okay, well, every time I CICO, I always lose weightalwaysmy LoseIt app never steered me wrongcope seethe shit shart and piss
>>77236134>claims cico works>too fat to post bodyEvery time.
>>77236044>waisting timehehmaybe he'll buy a corset :p
Is there anyone lurking in here that actually lost all the weight and kept it off? I've regained 20lbs and I'm so ashamed
>>77236139so you're just trolling, got it>6 yearsthis is advanced level mental illnessyou could've trained to be Mr Olympia in that time
>>77236143you know how to lose it so just do it again20lbs is nothing
>>77236143no, I always get stressed and life happens and I gain it back somehowthis time is real though, I feel it (my mentality and drive are way different)
>>77236147>>77236149But I relax. It isn't stress, stress makes me stop eating. I relax and feel its okvto have more "treats", and it becomes a daily habit again, 20lbs in a year is huge too but I settled back into my fatty ways. I can't do this shit over and over, I need to break it this time not just be a long term bulimic.
>>77236049I'm 5 11 and feels like I'd have to get into the low 60s kg to get rid of this shit
>>77236155This. My rib fat and face fat stay unless I'm at 12% but FUCK that's hard to maintain.
>>77236143I lost weight and kept it off for 10+ years. I used to struggle when I thought CICO was legit (it isn't). See: >>77234841The key was doing the opposite of what CICO says. Eat "calorie dense" fat and protein in unlimited quantities. Avoid carbs.Pic related is my first meal of the year. 80/20 beef patties with aged cheddar and sauerkraut. 70/30 beef is better but I like the convenience of frozen patties and this is the best I can find right now.
>>77236154The only way to have long term success is a diet that doesn't leave you hungry and doesn't require restriction.Skip cico. Do a low-carb diet.
Lololol as if keto or PSMF (the real goat for crash diets) actually work long term for 99.9% of people
>>77236173Low-carb works great. CICO never works and always results in weight regain.
>>77236176enough of the anecdotes show me the average person after 5 years
The struggle when I'm not done losing fat at all but I'm now "American average" and everyone thinks I'm crazy to lose more.>but you look great!>but you are skinny?
>>77236143I'll let you know in 2 months or so.
>>77236186Keeping it off 2 months means fuck all. How about a year or two or five?
>>77236155Pump those muscles up, boyo! Show the girls at the gym how to hip thrust like a bvll! Add more hamglute volume to your leg days. One easy trick that makes Jerusalem burn is finishing with leg press, really high weight & putting your feet to the topside of the plate. Ab work daily, some times with higher weight, some times more reps. Don't forget dead hangs with leg raises. Even when you have some fat you'll have more defined muscles.
>>77236188I've been hovering at my current fatass weight for more than 6 years so maintaining isn't really a problem for me.
>>77236181The KETO-CTA study was done on people who had been on keto for 5+ years and they were all lean.
>>77236191|^:<We aren't talking about staying fat we're talking about stating ×skinnty×
>>77236197then post that study instead of just posting out of context graphs with half naked men
>>77236204No.
>>77236154When you want to lose eat lean meat, vegetables, fruits, eggs, and low fat dairyWhen you want to maintain add in some good carbs like rice When you want to gain mix in nuts and higher fat meat/dairyAt no point eat bread, cake, pasta or anything like this
>>77236160post ribs
Kek, ketoschizo keeps on lying. >"Unlimited quantities">"doesn't require restriction"He has a tiny malnourished body that can't do anything. It's withering away, utterly useless. There's no function, no physcial activity he can accomplish. He eats ~1700kcal a day. There's a reason he doesn't show what's under the shirt. Like fetus-Voldemort in the Dumbledore-Harry scene.
>>77236209>recommending a low-fat dietCalorietards never learn.Low-fat diets are the most failed diet strategy ever studied.
>>77236210I'd rather die.
>>77236200>skinnyHey, I'm just looking to drop my status from obese to fat.
>>77236211Fat people pretending they eat carbs for physical activity will never stop being funny.
>>77236214You will more or less hit your fats as long assuming you fry stuff in oil
>>77236243The problem with low-fat diets are they suck for losing weight.
>>77236240Gotta eat carbs. As the study proved they're needed for lean mass. How else could I do 9 hours of cardio and 20h+ of gym per week? I might not be fat anymore, but I do have around twice your muscle mass. You're just a smol fetus-twink withering away. Totally restricted in every possible way by your expensive diet. No energy to do anything, staying home out of sight. I just wish you'd stay out of mind too. Stop preying on people of /fat/.
Ive been in great shape before. I am no longer in great shape. Got depressed, stopped lifting, stopped doing anything really. I am very tempted to get on Ozempic because i have successfully lost weight before, hell, one time i did OMAD and went from 100kg - 80kg in one month. I know i can do it if i have the will to, but it is genuinely torture feeling hungry all the time i am not built for it and end up downing diet coke to suppress appetite and sweet cravings and then my appetite always gets the better of me even if im in full /fit/ mode. I havent really had any motivation to get fit again since covid idk its just like something in me snapped and i just gave up.
>>77236256You're so fat that you're scared to post body and you get physically outperformed by a 59 year old man who eats zero carbs.
>>77236264>it is genuinely torture feeling hungry all the timeYes. This is why the best diet is unlimited calorie low-carb. Works better and doesn't require hunger.
>>77236271idk mane keto has always just felt like a fad to me. Like a modern day atkins diet. Fat is 8kcals / gram, carbs are 4kcals / gram so i dont really see how keto is efficient for losing weight other than the subjective satiation benefits. Potatoes are ranked the most satiating food and theyre basically all carbshttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7498104/
>>77236268I've posted my body many times, unlike you. There's a reason you nees to post OTHER men, not yourself, and as you know it's already been said you shill for cheaters. Influencers who aren't on keto. The problem isn't with keto, it works. The problem is with the lies you spread endlessly. You're like a woman.
>>77236274Unlimited calorie low-carb outperforms restricted calorie with carbs. Pic related.That phony "satiety index" is sponsored by Kelloggs. There's not really any such thing as a satiety index. It's a very bad study done by students using bad methodology.In the real world what matters is what results people get following different diet strategies. Low-fat has the worst results ever observed. Low-carb has the best results ever observed.
>>77236264>lost 20kg in one monthWhy do you guys keep saying this. It’s not possible unless you are 400lbs
>>77236277You should get a tripcode so people can filter you easier.You post way too much without ever posting body. You never post advice. You never post scientific studies. You're just a whining fat loser.
I have a dry erase board and put on one side how many workouts I need to finish for my next goal and the other side I write down each workout done. Helps a little to visualize the work I am doing 50 more workouts to go
>>77236284I post advice constantly, even the last study about wheat flour was posted by me, I've posted ny body around 20 times the past 6 months. Reality sucks, doesn't it? Keep on schizoing & lying. But please do it somewhere else.
>>77236283well, i did it. I ate one 1100Kcal meal per day which was pan fried chicken with minimal oil, sweet potato, rice and broccoli with a low fat mayo so i could actually get it all down. Will post the webm in a sec to show these are actually one month apart
>>77236296thats not 20kg
>>77236296Anon I implore you to learn what 20kg is
>>77236299well i was 100kg at the start of it and 80kg at the end so im pretty sure it was 20kg
>>77236296>20kgThat doesn't even look like 20lbs. Do you also say you benched 4pl8 back in your day?
Another loss for flat calorie theorists.
>>77236294Post body right now with timestamp (you won't).
>77236305>left another picture you bought from fiverr >right actual guy here losing weight and recomping with muscle Post the other picture you bought and spammed for 4 years where the guy is a foot shorter
>>77236303>>77236299>>77236301my bad, the pic on right isnt the final pic. watch the webm>>77236302it was a long time ago boys
>>77236307Keep seething fatso.
he does it purely to annoy and you should ignore the cunt
>>77236318>>77236318>>77236318>>77236318
>>77235736Looks as American as it get to me.
>>77235922>My hobbyLying on /fit/ about diets for 17 hours a day, every single day, is not a hobby, it's a mental illness.
>>77236264been in the same exact place with depression starting with covid and only starting to try to turn it around since towards the end of last year. why not start with just reintroducing exercise if diet is the harder part?
>>77236264Your problem is that you dieted too quickly last time. You became obese because of bad habits, and you need to learn how to fix those habits or it will keep coming back. Most people who go off ozempic put the weight back on too, for the same reason.One important lesson: don't try tricks to suppress appetite. If you're losing weight, you're going to feel hungry. That's just a fact.You're okay with temporary discomfort in the gym, and recognise it as being part of the process for building strength. So why can't you apply the same understanding to hunger during weight loss?
>>77236872Actually scratch that, I saw the pictures:>>77236296>>77236302You just barely dieted in the first place. But the point stands, you need to build sustainable habits - not go on occasional crash diets.
I am a bloat lord supreme but I won’t be in the future . I’ve decided to make an effort to stop this for good and I hope yall come along with me! WAGMIhttps://youtu.be/p5qFCejvGj0