CJ edition.>Where do I start?old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/indexPrevious: >>77216463
>>77238767Finally, a worthy Buck.
Slin pins arrived time to start my daily injection journey; 29g 0.5" 1cc, gotta double check the math on dosages and then mix up some BPC157 in the bath tub. WE ARE SO BACK BROS
What's the best steroid for beard growth?
getting your T production shut down is arguably the least concerning effect of steroid use, and we need to stop condoning blasting high doses because "you get shut down anyway brooo". normalise year long 250-300 test cruises with moderate blasts in between (if you even need them) and we will have a better steroid community. b4 you @ me, derek MPMD maintains his current physique on 200mg of test prop a week.
>>77238849>normalise year long 250-300 test cruises withThose are high doses you dumb nigger
>>77238819Time
>>77238872you never, ever, ever did an anabolic steroid cycle in your life you retarded mong
>>77238872those are low cruising doses also we don't sign our posts here
>>77238872250-300 is nothing.
>>77238879>>77238889Cruising at 300 is objectively worse than BnC.
>>77238962What about blasting at 2g+ and cruising at 300Heard that was good for the health actually Gotta confuse the HPTA
>>77239004Go ahead and perma cruise 300. Enjoy managing e2 for baby gains
>>77239008Some of us aren't fat or natty
>>77239012Ok kid, go for it
>>77239015>thinking the 300 is for gainsWhy are you here
>>77239008people unironically need AI for 300mg?
>>77239033Everyone that isn't a reddit nigger that thinks high e2 is good for you
Nandrolone Only™VsNandrolone Base™Hummm... Maybe I will try some day, yes.My hematocrit hates Testosterone. :(
My old boss is a fraud
when do bpc feel like work?
They said it's not possible to gain weight while taking reta but here I am disproving that
>>77239343I like Reta makes me digest slower so I can't gorge one meal like I used to, I have to split it up all day. I don't think I am losing weight faster than without it but I kind of stopped tracking the scale once I started. If you wanted appetite suppression you should've gone with tirz.
Is this balding or a normal crown? On 25 mg proviron and 140 mg test
>>77239498It's over...
>>77239498The thinning in this area (red arrow) would suggest that it's balding. Get on Fin to see if it improves it.
>>77239498nothing left to do now but blast til you're passed. 3g/week minimum 24/7/365, my dude
I want to try mast to reduce my gyno from puberty. I'm already on TRT, running ralox for the last 4 months and saw little progress until I threw in some epistane 2 weeks ago, now suddenly my gyno feels activated and seems to be shrinking. This makes me wonder if something like masteron would work as well since I can only run epi for 6 weeks or so but mast is out of stock at all of my sources. Any ideas when it'll return or a hint to find some? Could I get DHT cream and put it on my nipples? I don't want to shell out $5k+ for surgery but it really ruins my physique and I'm starting to think I'll have to go that route.
>>77239599I'm already on .5 mg dutasteride 3x a week and 2.5 mg minoxidil a day. Though the min has only been a month...
>>77239651Its.Over.
>>77239697Well if it is I guess I can just shave it and blast DHT compounds. Hair was the only thing keeping me from going full send.
>>77239783You are a weak man. Genetically inferior to me.
>>77239293The "p" in "bpc" stands for placebo
>>77239861Sorry ranjeesh, I only take the opinions of white men seriously
>>77239946i here good things about it but never looked into the timeline of effects occurring
>>77238849lol this fucking dyel faggot is still listening to that mpdp queer.Because of that retard we now have a generation of roiders who take old man trt doses of test and literal girl doses of var just to look like slightly bigger natties.I lift at a college gym and its full of these retards. I see them come in at the start of the new school year in August looking dyel as fuck.Because they're no longer living with their parents for the first time in their life they get some roids and start "blasting". They make unnaturally quick gains in a few months but they never get huge and they will never lift a heavy fucking barbell, Just fucking around with cable flies and curling 25 lbs dumbbells for the next few years doing 20 reps without even working up a sweat and they never really get much bigger.
>>77239053>taking AI without high E2 symptomsIs this what "derrick" tells you zoomer faggots to do?
>>77240879uh-oh. i started doing low weight high rep a few weeks ago trying to push through a plateau -- like 2 sets of 20, and 2 more to failure. now you got me worried i'm doing it wrong. i first tried changing up the tempo with higher weight, but that didn't do it for me. low weight has really got me back to feelin it though, plus it gives me time to focus more on the body/mind connection bs
>>77239008Just find your ratio of Eq/primo and test and size that up or down depending on your target androgens... not difficult
Would undiagnosed/managed diabetes effect steroid usage to less gains compared to someone on the same dosage without diabetes?
>>77241457you have untreated diabetes and your main concern is to grow muscle (which requires eating a lot of cabs)?
>>77241460No I am wondering if someone who thinks they have diabetes but hasn't got tested for it would explain why he isn't gaining as much muscle as he thought he would.
>>77241477>I think I have this life threatening condition but instead of getting tested or treatment i will keep lifting weights and ask a bunch of natty dyels on an anime pedo image board why I am still dyel
>>77241482Purely scientific question.
>>77238767>12.5mg clomid >3mg exemestane>1.25mg finasterideIs this a good half-natty stack for the start? Never took hormonal PEDs before.
>>77242019Clomid will give you permanent vision problems
>>77238767Why? Is there a way to mitigate this?
>>77240893pretty sure derrick was the one to trick retards into pinning subq every day and never take ai
>>77242285being black? no.
>>77242019>12.5mg clomidUse Enclomiphene instead.>3mg exemestaneNot needed.>1.25mg finasterideFine if you're prone to balding.
Is it worth going from 2.5iu hgh to 4?
>>77242585>Use Enclomiphene instead.I can't reliably source it (Russia), while i can get 30 tablets of 50mg clomid in local pharmacy for 8$.>Not needed.But clomid will raise estrogen due to significantly raised testosterone?
>>77242747Your estrogen goes up because some of your receptors are selectively blocked. Estrogen increases until those blocked receptors are reporting normal levels again. What do you think happens if you block your estrogen from increasing? Could it be infinite testosterone? Nothing? Low estrogen side effects? Hmmmmmm.If you can't reliably source enclomiphene you just shouldn't use it. It doesn't matter if you block your estrogen on that stuff. Zuclomiphene has a really long half life and will activate your estrogen receptors all the same. Once you get vision side effects on that stuff it's over, you can't just stop taking the drug to prevent it from getting worse.
>>77239498if youre already on dut and minox then this is probably nothing, its just how your cowlick looks
>>77242747Clomid has a very bad reputation. If you can't source Enclo then I wouldn't bother.
>>77242747Wut? You have a land border with china and you can't get enclomiphene? That's crazy
>>77243573i think theyre more worried about importing weapons than enclo
Has anyone done both a 500mg/w cycle and a 1000mg a week cycle, and how would you say they compare?Have personally only done 500mg, but considering upping it, since i experienced decent growth and basically no sides.
I like anavar
>>77244054>since i experienced decent growth and basically no sidesif it aint broke
How many times a week do you frauds lift?
I'm low-average bodyfat (like 13-14%) and skinny/averagecel (190 at 6'1).I want twinkmaxx and hust get lean as fuck but not necessarily bigger or smaller. I have no problems dieting heavily so reta seems kind of useless to me. Should I consider something like CJC-1295/Ipa instead?
im trying to book my very first labs before i start anything as a noob, is goign directly through quest diagnostics not a comprehensive enough panel, i think they have a testosterone panel through quest direct and its pretty cheap. otherwise i have tabs open for discounted labs, goodlabs, and 'anabolicinsights.io', which of these should i try and which specific panels do i need? i want to run a small dose of test at first and then eventually ramp up a bit, maybe even consider something more evnetually but i dont really know.does goodlabs make you give a lot more blood because of their 'you get cheaper if you donate blood at the same time' thing?
>>77244202It is nice but I am a Dbol stan.>>772442506 days normally but if I am injured or sore from work it is 4 or 5.
thinking of switching from test e to test c. so if im doing 250mg 2x/wk with test e, that would just be 500mg 1x/wk with test c right? are you guys putting 2ml into just one injection site? doesn't that cause a lot of irritation?
>>77244250MWF and cardio the rest
>>77244824goodlabs is already pretty cheap. i've used them many times. you don't have to donate blood. cbc, cmp, test free+total ms, estradiol (e2) ms, lipids, psa, shbg, prolactin, and maybe fsh+lh if you have future fertility concerns. lots of tests now to get base readings so you can know if something is out of whack when you try and figure out a problem in the future. after this, test/e2/cbc/lipids are probably the only thing that'll change, unless you're one of the unlucky ones
>>77244054I did 700, which worked well for me.
>>77244892No, you would do exactly the same as you are doing now.
>>77238767Are there still retards not taking nolvadex aka tamoxifen here? It's creatine 2.0>reduces gyno>improves testosterone https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/640052/>improves muscle strength https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36562127/>improves ball/sperm health https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6686649/>will make your pecs look better even if you have minimal gynoIn fact it's used as PCT to restart roiders balls and sperm production. If it makes tiny roider balls become healthy imagine what it can do for non-roiders.
Blood test came back. Test is 610ng/L.That explains why i'm a tired little bitch or it doesn't?
>>77245200610 is completely fine, what really matters and determines how you feel is free test and the percentage or ratio of your free test to total test
>>77245192This would be why:>Tamoxifen can cause ocular side effects, including retinal damage (tamoxifen retinopathy), corneal changes, cataracts, and dry eyes. Long-term use can lead to crystalline deposits in the retina, macular edema, and blurred vision.
>>77245234Does enclomiphene has same side effects?
>>77245274All SERMS can do this
>>77245274All serms can cause eye problems, but Enclo has a much shorter half life than Tamoxifen (10 hours vs 7 days), so if you do get eye side effects from Enclo they will go away quickly upon cessation of the drug, unlike Tamoxifen.
>>77244892No. The esters are basically the same. >but but source xyz says that enanthate half life is xx days and cypionate is xx daysRead my first sentence.
>>77244906why only 3 days?
>>77245300Well it's worth noting that if you get floaters or crystals they aren't necessarily going to reverse ever. It's just that if you're taking enclomiphene and start to notice this you can stop immediately and not make things much worse. With other SERMs you're kinda fucked. Zuclomiphene for example, which is in Clomid, has an insanely long half life of 30 days. It's fucking over once you get any side effects on that shit, eyes or otherwise.
>>77245749Just because
where can i get oral minox/fin im tired of dealing with these nigger sites
>>77245761>Well it's worth noting that if you get floaters or crystals they aren't necessarily going to reverse ever. It's just that if you're taking enclomiphene and start to notice this you can stop immediately and not make things much worse.Yeah, this is exactly what I meant, but I didn't explain it that well.
>>77245801IYKYK>>77245770Pump up those numbers lil vro, you aint natty you aint gotta train like a 16 year old.
clen to cut from 20-22% bf to 15%? i'm 5'10 182lbs and thinking of doing 2 weeks on and off till july 14 or at least till i get to see abs
>>77246302Just eat less nigga.
>>77244716Yeah peptides are the way to go for sure.
>>77246726i've been eating less already and making plenty of progress this will be like a boost for the last 2 months
I might just stop taking Reta because I am down enough. But I don’t want to be wasteful of this half vial I have left…
>>77246302No
>>77245801dermatologist you dumbass
>>77246302Clen is more to shine on situations like 10 to 8% bf, or even less... Not for this phase you are now. A tool useful for you would be a psmf for (minimum) 2 weeks. If you need help use some tirz together, tirzepatide specifically not Redditrutide because the key here would be the appetite suppression.
PINNING DELTS WITH 29G FUCKING SUCKS
If I am going to go donate blood should I just lie on everything? I don't care if they test it later I just need to lose some blood.
>>77248319some will say dont give your tren blood to a baby. some fib, like you asked. some just order shit from amazon, and drain their blood into a bathtub. you do you, xister
>>77248374I'm sure they test it for stuff after they drain me, I don't think a baby will get my blood and I do not trust myself enough for home lancing kits.
>>77238767>test>anavar>winstrol>reta>ghk-cu>selanksummer is gonna be this good nigga
>>77248471>NO TRENPATHETIC
>>77248477im not a cattle
>>77248483youre on reta of course you are
>>77248488farmers inject cattle with tren on daily basis
>>77248502I wish that were me
>>77248471redpill me on selank
>>77248383blood tests cost money, and there's no one test that can look at everything. they'll check for hiv, sure, but not elevated tt, or speciality markers. nobody's going to appear at your front door months from now, shrieking they've found deca in your donation. and blood doesn't really last all that long too (a month?), so even if you are still worried about it now, you won't have to worry for long after donating
>>77248782It's alleged to help your brain, I felt nothing on it.
Why should i use HGH instead of mk677 or sermorelin?
>>77248782makes ur iq higher
>>77248483Based
>>77248488lmao true
>>77249230Because it's way cheaper and more effective at the same time
>>77249580HGH is expensive as fuuck
So for first cycle do you really just need some test and an AI?I'm doing>300mg 16 weeks (natty test is 430 so I think this will give me a good level)>Get blood work done 5 weeks in>Keep anastrozole on hand after getting blood work done.
>>77249090Sounds like its not my problem then, thanks anon.
>>77249632Yes but in the future try to prioritise exemestane over anastrazole. You're alright though
>>77245801You can drink OTC liquid minox. Look at the ingredient list, calculate your dose by the drop and just add it to a small glass of water.
>>77249599It’s not that much more expensive than some peptides zoomzoom niggers buy. $1.50/IU is what I spend on GH.
Just got my bloodtest back. Apparently my test level is 300% and the doctor said I had "hyper gonads"Is this a good thing??
>>77238767anyone else monitoring the situation
>>77249902>$1.50/IUthat seems slightly high?I see somatropin for $0.85/IU; and sermorelin $1.69/mg. Is your price including shipping or something?
>>77249632300mg isnt a cycle its a cruise
>>77249632started developing gyno on a 350 test cycle. 0.25mg arimdex every 3 days took care of it.
>>77250305I am not talking about peptides.
>>77250294i got scammed from listed one of themrip 950 usdt i guess:(
I used a new vial of test yesterday for the first time. Uncapped it, swabbed, injected. About 12 hours later I roll over in the night and feel a lot of pain when I retract my delt (pinned delt). Hadn’t had PIP in maybe five years before today.Now I feel like I have a slight fever and delt feels swollen. Delt isn’t red, but it does hurt, and kind of whole body hurts, low energy, and feel cold. Fever may be unrelated. No idea. How worried should I be? I pinned 0.75 ml of pic related
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Don't steroids fuck up your natural testosterone production?
>>77251293Certain ones yes
>>77250381Dude what? HGH = somatropin = a peptide.
>>77251293That's why you stick to SERMs like enclomiphene.
>>77251293Yes.
>>77250117Not necessarily, no.
>>77251127Well there's a reason why White people use cypionate and brown/black/non-japanese asians use Enanthate...
>>77251442*loses vision*
>>77251588I thought emanate was gold standardAnyway is it possible I’m just allergic to that oil or something, or is the vial somehow contaminated? I ordered two vials, can I try for a refund or anything or am I just screwed out of $80?
>>77251604Enanthate is ok nothing really about it that is better or worse than cyp, esther halflife be damned. Assuming its MCT oil suspension you probably just hit a vein or some shit no biggie just gotta survive but if it gets red and swollen and becomes actually scary to look at or fever gets bad feel free to go to a clinic to get antibiotics. I don’t like pinning my delts at all I’d rather suffer with quads again than do delts.
>>77251588are you trolling? ive never heard of this
>>77251442>that's why you rape your igf-1 levels
>>77251594meme, just don't take it daily also never been proven in enclomiphene
>>77251709Never pinned quadsDon’t think I hit a vein bc I pinned my stomach as well as there was a bit of test left from my delt pin, and the tiny bit I pinned in stomach got red and hurts like hell so more likely it’s the testIt’s not mct, it’s cherry oil, according to the UGL site
started TUDCA now my balls are itchy
Ordered gymshark for the first time and their clothes are so thin and cheaply made lmao I fell for this marketing bullshitWhere do you get your gym clothes?
>>77252003I workout in my underwear, easily the best part of a home gym. You could attempt this at a public gym I suppose
>>77239599Its over bro. Just shave it all off
>>77252003I buy mine from Ali express and markets in third world countries on vacation Otherwise I with just wear old clothes that became too shit to wear in public normally
If my vials are 1ml at 250mg/ml and I want to do 300mg at 2 injections per week i.e. 0.6ml twice a week, what would my injection protocol look like?Is it ok to draw twice into the same syringe? Do I switch drawing needles each time I draw, or is it safe to draw from the same needle twice?
What do you use to bulk with besides Testosterone that is not Deca (im on fin, can't take both together)
>>77238767>Bench Press>Curls>Cardio>Boxing>No Squats>No Rows>No DeadsIs this really the secret?
>>77252131150mg every 3 days or 3.5D, ideally you take the daily bullet to keep levels stable. if you have leur lock tips u can draw with the same one but switch out the tip before injecting. i used to do 1 syringe body and 2 needle tips for 2 substances. dont reuse syringes after u use a tip put it in a container (i use pickle jar) u can toss the plastic bodies into the trash
>>77252003Barbell apparel makes some good joggers and shorts, that's about all I know>>77252131>>77252186If both vials are the same substance you can definitely use the same needle in each bottle though I guess there is some risk of transfer of bacteria or something from the old vial but probably pretty minute. The reason not to keep using the same needle is it blunts the tip which will make the injection suck more.I personally struggle to find luer locks with the right gauge so normally I just do an extra syringe.
>>77252126Chad detected
>>77252131WEEKLY DOSE IN MG ÷ DAYS YOU'RE PINNING THIS NIGGA ÷ MG PER ML OF YOUR VIAL/AMPOULE
>>77252144BoldenoneTren EDianabol
>>77252064all the werminz at my gym do. might as fuckin well
>>77252595 Have you ever hired a coach? What's your experience with it?
>>77253504It's a open question, not meant for you, sorry.(be patient)
>>77253504no coach as in like... competition coach. i messed up my shoulders, so i did get a trainer that did a lot of sports injury stuff. i've never had the competition bug. i'm not disciplined enough for that
>>77252390Can I run Tren for 6 months?I like to blast/bulk for half a year and cut/cruise for another half year.
>>77253936I did 20wks on 200mg and going to do like 40wk this time on 200mg, felt good. Take kidney support.
>>77253936i will die if u take tren that often25/w is more than enough for me
>>77238767ehlllo niggers, I may have been too retardedwas taking just hcg and wanted gains again so I started taking what I've got lying around>DHB 100mg/week>dbol 25mg/day, with some days I forgot/breaksI have been doing this for 7 weeks.I am now getting tired sooner in the day yet also can't sleep.sometimes my e2 spikes so I take an aromasinpast few weeks anxiety regarding schoolwork and deadlines shot up, but I've also always had that issueI have no idea how much of my current depression and anxiety is just my life sucking and how much is the drugs. I have totally lost the ability to focus.again, my hcg supplementation is still ongoing, so I should'n't have crashed testosteroneI can't drink as much without feeling queasy. I actually threw up because of alcohol for the second time in my life a few weeks ago. people kept giving me drinks tho. I wonder if what I feel in my gut is my liver health going down, and if that's the dbol, DHB, or bothAnyway, is this what DHB is like? mental sides are more concerning to me. liver comes back
>>77254708First off stop drinkingif you're taking 25mg Dbol a day you might need more Asin (you didn't say how much you take) or split it up between the week instead of just once, your E2 is probably why you are having anxiety and mental sides never touched DHB though so :shrug_emoji:
>>77254718ya I've cut back on the drinking.whenever I take asin i take 12.5mg. usually whatever prompted it goes away the next morning so I think it's an effective dose. For instance today I woke up and my anxiety was gone. and I had a harder boanerI forgot that most people cessate their dbol after about 6 weeks according to the reddit steroids wiki. so I should probably cut that as well. but! I thinnk it's pretty smart to take with DHB, which doesn't aromatize. Perhaps I'll do 25mg EOD
>HOW DO I FIND A SOURCE TO BUY ROIDS!>protip>instagramThey let literally anyone advertise on there, shit is like facebook marketplace. Make an IG account, start following obvious roiders, by the end of the day the algorithm will pick up on it and every other ad will be an online retailer that don't ask questions.
>>77254724Wow I love overpaying for dogshit gear with no verified testing done!
guys im high cycle help me i masturbate 4-5 times a day this not help,all time boner,i walk with dog boner,im in work boner,i even fap on homegymwhat should i do,dont have sex for 3 months should i get wymyn to have sex and this go away me normal again?
>>77255094are there any women you can have sex with? Do you have pics of these girls you can share with me so i can give you good advice?
>>77254672i'm on month five of tren. started as a 300mg/week cruise, and now 600 since march 30. just had bloods three weeks ago, and all is good. ldl up 20 points, and hdl down 10, but that's my fault for slacking on my fish oil. read a few anecdotes of people blasting a gram a week for three+ years with no ill effects. i just can't handle the mental sidess. i tapped out around 10 weeks in a gram because i was being a huge fucking cunt to everyone. 600 has been much more manageable, other than my body temp is annoyingly high at night, and i'm not getting much refreshing sleep so i'm tired through the day. i can still function okay, but just kinda blah
>>77255094you can find lots of single horny women in your area on grindr
>>77255094I know this is bait but… Changing from E3D to daily injections balanced me out from jerking off 5 times a day back to my usual 1-2 morning/night goon sessions. It got so bad last cycle I was physically in pain from cumming felt like my cock was going to split down the middle like a banana peel every time I came, but I was so horny and could not stop myself.
>>77254743Guess what dipshit, if you're buying stuff sans prescription, it ALL comes from the same place. "3rd party" testing means fuck all because the company gets to choose the samples to send in. Unless you're doing testing yourself, you're always rolling the dice. As if you give a shit in the first place.
>>77255445i'm not that anon, but, lol. lmao, even. at your ignorance, of course.
>>77255752don't entertain his delusions, he has the right attitude and mentality, but is naive and obviously not older than 18 or he would know more than this basic understanding of UGL's.
>>77255758yeah... test your shit! can't argue with that
>>77253684Did it work/heal/fix?
>>77253936You can. Should you? No
My fat lazy ass boyfriend is going to drain every ounce of energy and will to lige that I have. So i'm lowkey thinking anout doing steroids (keeping it light, test only) because fuck it.
>>77256395assuming you are Male, go for it. If you are female, hi add me on discord.
>>77255445I mean you're right.And it's because it's all the same that the bigger problem is the overpaying part tbhdesu.
>>77255321*sniffies
>>77256366it helped. the doc didn't think i had torn anything, but if i put my hand behind my back it was pretty painful to lift it to the top of my butt, and that's about as high as i could lift it. did pt, then the trainer after. i have a mostly normal range of motion now, but still hurts to bench. i stick to dumbell presses with a rotation, and even that gets me after too many reps. tb500+bpc157 didnt help any. havent tried hgh, but i should. i still do shoulder rotation exercises, which sometimes makes my shoulders feel good, and sometimes miserable. i think it's down to an inflammation thing now
>>77256395>>77256412not that anon, but if you are female, also go for it. varbies are the best!
>>77238767cerebrolysinlegit or noi want to IQMAXXING
>>77256395ultra low dose t and var. you go girl!
>>77257171>> cereokay...>> brouh....>> lysinlyin? brain bro's lyin? obviously the pep is a lie (i've never heard if this stuff. just felt like wasting your time)
I was told by a GH blaster friend that you won't make great gains unless you push high IU, but I wanted to do about 4 IU max without having to fuck with insulin. Thoughts?
>>772585332-4IU is considered replacement/Shredding dose (HGH at LOW doses is lipolytic), only after 6 IU does Hyperplasia REALLY come out. But, 2-4IU will still help with recovery and sleep. I would never FW Insulin as besides DNP, it's the one enhancement that WILL kill you or give you a brutal time if you fuck up.
>>77258545That is why I don’t want to mess with Insulin injections, but HGH seems exactly what I want for my growth, so I am kind of battling back and forth with research and the devil on my shoulder saying I should blast and the angel saying I should stick to 4IU max.
>>77258566not that anon, but you don't need to consider slin until 12iu. it doesnt become necessary until 16 or 18, depending on who you talk to. 20+ absolutely, but more because adding more hgh there isn't gonna add more mass, and the slin will. a lot of it becomes diet, and you really need to have your diet dialed in if you're gonna be bothering with 20iu+
>>77258648I will look into it more than a cursory overview when I am done with my lifts tonight, I just wanted to liven up the thread as well as get some quick info without having to sit on my PC. Appreciate it.
Test + var made me able to be attracted to black chicks. Not all of them just the hot ones.
>>77258755None of them are hot, anon. Stick to your own race, or white women if you've ascended.
>>77258688It's kind of common knowledge in this field that HGH to be useful you need to use 4+ iu day (my dose is 4iu). The sugar in your blood at doses like 4-6 (maybe 8) could be controlled using a GLP1 (the best one for this is tirzepatide, it has more power in this sense than redditrutide) and berberine (my stack).
>>77258822Forgot to say that 1-2iu is useful, yes. But in the HRT sense.
>>77258822>>77258827Seems maybe Anavar would be a better idea, I liked my 50mg var cycle and might consider GH more in the future.
does ghk help with new stretch marks? I cant any information on the internet anymore. even the reddit threads are copy pasted chatGPT answers
Just bought 3 vials of boldenone cypionate.What am I in for?
>>77258934Good anabolic gains alongside a test stack and some AI properties.
>>77258910I've been using GHK-Cu for three months now and its yet to do anything note worthy for me. It's unlikely it would do any damage though.
4 days on clen, so far my cardio has been better and longer, not noticing much on looks besides a little bit veinier? oh i tried taking a nap after my cardio sesh in the morning and i would wake up an hour after with my heart racing (it's fun) and needing to pee like a bear
>>77252003may i ask you why would buy that shit? lmfao just buy tekken or dark souls shirts like every other gym nerd and when it comes to shorts adidas simply fucks every other sportwear on quality.
>>77238872Those are high doses for medical use, they're "low" for abuse dosages.
Cutting till august so i can start a proper cycle
>>77258934c h e a p b o t t l e d E P O
My shbg is always high, both naturally and on a cruise/blast. Should I use proviron to lower it so my test is more effective? How bad is proviron on the hair?
what drugs do I buy
>>77260661TRENBOLONE ACETATE
>>77260712THIS
Is one back day a week enough or should I aim for two
>>77260764Each muscle group twice a week, 3 day splits 1 day rest. Obviously things like calves/forearms can be done more
>>77260783>just lift 6 times a week bro
>>77260785Uhh... yeah?
>>77260785If you're on gear there is NO reason not to train 6 days a week
>>77260489I know you said its high both natty and on blast, but is there at least some difference? How high are we talking anyway?Mine is 80+ natty, with highest measured in at 101, granted my serum test is high too but fuck man the shbg nuking my free test pisses me off.
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO SPEND DOUBLE THE COST FOR ANAVAR INSTEAD OF ANADROL BECAUSE ITS LE HECKIN DRY errr... bros?
>>77260764The shortest correct answer is that's enough if stimulated correctly (intensity, etc).
>>77255318>mental sidessWhat are your mental sides bro. I've been on 600 and I had no sides for like 2 months and now I'm dwelling on shit in the past. I suddenly think the world is conspiring against me. I'm obsessive over my wife to the point that I want to kill anyone that looks at her. Thankfully I haven't been that big of a cunt outwardly. I just suffer in silence.
>>77238819DHT + minoxidil
>>77239008Dude, I'm fat as shit and 200test100deca puts me at 35 pg/mL e2. You must be a hyper aromatizer.
>>77241460>(which requires eating a lot of cabs)lol
>>77261262pretty much the same. everything is a plot. reading too much in to everything. I'll jump straight to super violent thoughts over news (e.g. torture pedos/rich people getting out of what should have been a lengthy prison sentence/politicians existing). at a gram i apparently would be fine one second then a dick the next. been on 600 since like march 31 or something, and haven't pissed anyone off yet. i do mutter "stupid fucking bitch fucking go you fucking idiot" a lot while droppig my kid off at school. energy during the day is kinda low. i was crusing on 300 for two months before bumping to 600, and i'm not waking up as much as i was on 300. definitely running hot, and i sweat a lot in bed. more motivated at the gym, and i feel like i can't get enough time there. i've been pushing too much lately though, but it's nice. i'll do 3-5 sets of 20-30 reps, and i've been getting a good burn and seeing good gains. setting pr's again, which is nice. definitely looking better, but my diet is shit and my gut is back. up 11lbs. must have that look to me now in spite of that, based off the looks i'm getting at the gym. tldr trenny is right, and we should all do what he says (more tren). which i did yesterday, actually... was reading something while drawing, and ended up with 130mg (i brew, and this batch is 262mg/ml). figured, fuck it. pinned it. it was a good day.
>>77261557Damn I should run 400mg again…
Folks, educate me on 19-nors and fertility. I know "all gear makes you permanently low T and infertile" etc, but I know plenty of guys who did several cycles and later managed to have kids just fine. I also know for a fact that some of them never touched 19-nors, while the others I have no idea.Realistically, how much worse it is to do a, say, 10 week Test+Deca and 10 week Test only cycle when compared to a 20 week Test only cycle, if one still wants to have kids in the future?Are either options almost "equally bad", or is the one with Deca (for the first 10 weeks) much worse?
>>77261557>but my diet is shitYeah. Tren makes me crave carbs and I get sleepy if I'm not eating everything. I literally can't cut too hard because tren makes me go hypoglycemic.
>>77261805nothing makes you permanently anything, other than bald (maybe), or roid gut if you sprinkle hgh on everything like salt bae. aas don't make you infertile. one was studied specifically as a male contraceptive, and it was abandoned because it was 60% effective at best, and, yes, effects reversed after stopping. also don't do 10 weeks of deca.... shit's barely gonna be getting effective by the time you tap out
>>77261778you should!>>77261815hah! same. only time i ever crave cream of wheat is when i'm on tren. cereal this time, too
>>77261815>>77261841Reta + Tren has been treating me really well so far, I might have to bump up the Reta this week though since I am eating more dirty recently but good dry lean look after only about 6 weeks on Reta (was already cutting prior to the Reta so it's not exclusively from it).
>>77261903i neeeeed to try this... i think i'm gonna keep the tren going through summer, then do like a 800 test 800 deca through winter, then give reta a try next spring. i keep hearing good things about tren+reta
>>77261903Thankfully I did most of my cut before I started. I just need to nut up and finish it. But next year I'm definitely doing a reta + tren cut. There's no point in suffering anymore.
>>77261903No testo base?Is there something like Tren Only?
Does Masteron affect estrogen/e2 at all?
>>77245274Enclo has a shorter half life so you don't hit those side effects as quickly, also the side effect profile is low if you stay at 12.5 mg/day
>>77262640I would go every other day with that dose so your eyes have time to get some estrogen
>>77262559Yes test base I just didn’t writr everything out. Test Reta Tren BPC157 and soon Anavar
>>77261557>Had a kid>WHILE on 19NorBruh are you blasting HCG too lol?Plz tell us you’re taking shit for your mental state for the sake of your kid (even shit that brings back neurosteroid production so you aren’t retarded)
>>77262671i'm 40. my oldest is a teen. i haven't gone full retard yet, but i have noticed some brain fog. nothing crazy though. no more kids in my future -- wife's done
About to start a stack of CJC-1295 and Ipamorelin and MK-677. Anybody try this before to accelerate a lean bulk?
>>77262816Sounds expensive as hell bro
>>77262834Was like 350 with all things ordered, dollar cost averages to a few bucks a day
>>77262635Not like an AI, more like a SERM
>>77262683>no more kids in my future -- wife's doneThat never stopped some dudes honestly
>>77262959the thought has crossed my mind, but i am far retarded to sneak around, and much too terrified at what my life would be/the unknowns if something like that were to go wrong
>>77262971and i do like my wife. we just don't agree on everything. can't say i'm happy about it all the time, but being happy all the time sounds more like a mental illness
>>77262959I thought I was accidentally on /k/ for a second lol. I don't know how that guy is so horny, I basically get nothing from frauding. Guess I should take more.
>>77263040I'll be honest, I am less horny doing daily pins compared to my E3D pinning. No idea why, same dose/week, same AI schedule/dose, same compounds.
>>77260482It wasn't exactly cheap. Pricier than deca, winstrol, but cheaper than primo, mast, dhb
>>77238767So, my first cycle I did using gear I bought online, shit seemed to work, my test was super high, wasn’t bunk. This time around I used a TRT clinic, but man this shit is expensive. Should I go back to using shit online? Only issue is my go-to site seemed to have shit the bed.
>>77263134>Should I keep overpaying for TRT doses and copay at a clinic instead of using google.com to find a new online source for 200% cheaper?yeah
>>77238767what bf% am i if I'm getting veins on my calves without a pump?
>>77263154I guess it depends on calves size, I would say I am 16%-20% and can see my calf veins and inner quads while I take a shit and do leg day. My calves are not noticeable prior to doing raises.
>>77262971Understandable. Even the sperm hungry lesbians on JAB might not be entirely discreet. But T levels may be influencing my risk tolerance.
>test levels pathetically low, around 300>ordered some Test-eHow much should I take to get my test levels to a mid/high natty range? Was thingken around 150-200mg
>>77263259150mg is TRT dose for trannies you’d def feel better at 250mg a week.
>>77263259200 for me is the sweet spot. It puts me well above natty test ranges with no e2 or lipid issues
>>77262671>tell us you’re taking shit for your mental state for the sake of your kidTren affects people differently. Sounds like he's got it mostly under control. I am still pretty patient with kids when I'm on high tren. Actually, one cycle I was so irritated that my son was not that great at his sport so I took him out every day and worked with him for hours. Before I was on tren I was like "don't worry about it man you'll get there." But the tren makes me obsess over what other people think lel.
>>77263216sperm hungry lesbians you say? no... no, i shouldn't.... haha!>>77263259varies by person. some people take 100mg/week and get 1000tt. some take 200 and get 600tt. start 150, get bloods after 8 weeks, then adjust>>77263457yeah 600 is much more tolerable for me so far. only thing at home that drives me nuts is how my kids manage to smack their lips no matter what they're eating. like... one was eating crackers for fucks sake, and still managed to make a nasty wet slopping sound. my misophonia is not tolerating it well. i have to put on headphones, or leave the room. that's always bugged me, but now it's absolutely driving me nuts. so gross!
Been frauding for 14 months. Not too far from my goal body but I dont want to cruise on 140 long term. Rate plan:>140 cruise for next few years>pussy 350 16 week blast ending with 40mg var for 6 weeks>after a few years of this I'll be shredded enough to have my goal body on lower cruise dose (100-120)
>>77263492There's no difference between 100 and 140 long term, side effects wise.
>>77263492wat. so you think you're gonna get a "goal body" by taking an amount of test that's prescribed by docs with the intention of bringing someone up to a normal tt range? why don't you just, you know.... diet, and exercise?
>>7726325930mg daily.
>>77263492>I dont want to cruise on 140 long termWhy? 140 is nothing.
For women (bio women, not MtF trannies) who want to fraud but still pass as "natty" (for the normie eye at least), is it best to use Deca/NPP or Var?Asking for a friend...
>>77263864>forgot to post lust-provoking imageHere, pls help
>>77262671>bruhOh dramaqueen, take it easy. He's using Nandrolone, not smoking crack
>>77263114I wrote that it's a cheap version of EPO. That's because I have one vial but I'm terrified of using it cause my blood got tick only smelling testosterone :(Maybe in the future... Low dose it...
>>77263864>>77263877>decafuck no>varyes
>>77263899Ok! But... why?How would deca harm a girl in a way that var won't?
>>77263903Higher androgenic activity in women than the numbers suggest (progesterone receptor activity adds complexity)Deca has an extremely long half-life. If virilization hits, you're stuck with it for weeksNPP is shorter-acting and somewhat safer than Deca for women, but still riskier than VarVoice changes and clitoral enlargement are real risksHarder to "stay natty-looking" due to more pronounced muscle fullness/water
Why do I always shed so much hair on reta/tirz? It's all across my scalp and I'm already a good responder to fin so it shouldn't be DHT. Even 5mg causes it..
>>77263918Starvation induced hair loss
>>77263913Ok thank you Chat, Var it is
when do i start feeling the test? It's been a week and nothing
>>77263939Pin moar
>>77263899>>77263913Chat, is 5 mg/day Var good to start?
>>772639394-5wks when you start to “feel” it>>77263971For women yes that’s natty fem doses. HIGHLY recc not going higher.
>>77263864you can look natty while taking literally everything if you do it wrong enough. 10mg var ed will make you look pretty good with regular exercise. just like... more toned, and a little thinner
>>77263939you won't "feel" anything no matter how much you take. but, what other anon said, you need to give it six weeks. other effects can take longer -- like 12-16 months to fix hormonal induced erectile dysfunction, if you have that
>>77264005>>77263980oh i didnt read all the replies... 5mg ed is fine too. 10 is more noticeable. 20 you'll likely get a fraud look
What should I expect from oxandrolone or turinabol (male). More strength? Experienced anons, enlighten me please.
IF A FEMALE WOMAN TAKES ANAVAR TOO HIGH OF A DOSE XHE WILL TURN INTO A FUCKING VARBIE WITH THE VOICE OF A 16YO BOY AND CLIT BIGGER THAN MY COCK SO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH ANY ANABOLICS AS A GIRLYPOP GORLY
I have a TRT clinic that prescribes legal testosterone and monitors my bloodwork. If I hypothetically got on something else, would the doctor just give me a sly wink or would he throw me out?
>>77264059you are fucking retarded
>>77264068What? I have heard many mass monsters saying that they have doctors who know they are on roids and are monitoring their bloodwork. A private citizen is free to do whatever he wants with his body.
>>77263099When I started enclomiphene I got highschool horny for 1 month then it faded. I needed to coom 3 times a day again but now I'm back to like 1 or 2 and the desire isn't even nearly as strong. I can just ignore it. Considering PT-141 just to make life more fun.I have no fucking clue why this happened either. Everyone says TRT etc helps with libido. Even when I was pinning that wasn't the case. Right now I'm on enclo and oral TRT, my test is still high hitting >1400 and >400 free>>77263259150-250 you want to be in the 1k total test range
>>77263864Girls should stay natty imo.
>>77264077I doubt it. They're goal is to make money.
>>77264037ISN'T IT GREAT?! YOU GOT ME ALL EXCITED TOO! SHE SHOULD TAKE 60MG TEST + 20MG VAR YOU'RE RIGHT IT'LL BE AWESOME!!
>>77263686Some people have modest goals.
>>77264134Some girls look like shit though. Wouldn't hurt them to blast var and get a huge ass and quads. That alone will move some women up 2 pts
>>77264059He would just look at your shit and advise you to hop off because of the health risks. He can't throw you out or report you to the police
>>77263939You will start to notice bigger muscles in like a month. You can take dbol if you want to get insane pumps.
>>77264362i... yeah, got me there. i'm really bad about projecting a constant need to achieve more on others, when, like you said, a lot of people are just content with what they have. i'm the one that's never happy with how things are
>>77263259Thoughts on rub-on gel TRT? Its the only type of TRT my doctor would perscribe and it pisses me off that I have to put it om every day
>>77264766You should be applying it to your scrotum. The skin is thinner there so much more of the drug gets absorbed and you get higher T levels as a result.
>>77264766Absolutely dogshit lol change clinics.
I think I might transition into a girl, I am sick of chasing gains with minimal improvements. I am going to become a pretty bimbo doll like I always wanted.
>>77263971for a girl yes
>>77252180The secret to what ? To looking like a clown ?
Hate semaglutide. W2C cheap tirz or reta?
>>77265556You'll probably be an ugly girl too
>>77263864retarded men here cant even take roids themselves without fucking it up and you're asking them advice on what women should take?
>>77265684Just look at those third party peptide review sides and go by ratings. Tirz will give you the best overall feel, redditrutide will give you better results from stopping metabolic adaptation so up to you really.I recommend taking GLPs to blunt your hunger enough that a diet is easy but still takes a little effort. That way you can adjust and prevent weight loss that's too rapid.
>400 Test C>200 EQ>200 Mast E>20 weeks>140 Tren Ace final 8 weeksit has begun
>>77265684stairway to gray website, telegram is in the footer.lots of vendors in there, tirz 30mg x 10 vials is like $120
>>77266125I mean, who else is there to ask?Doctors?
>>77267036yes there are only 2 kinds of people in the world>retarded 4chan incelsand>doctors
>>77255752its more true now than ever before
yall have told em about this one particular site and it seems nice and all but how do i pick between these different... advertisements? what should i look for?
>>77267285i am looking for test and test accessories for a beginner, if thats relevant
Maybe I am a under-responder and should be blasting 1g/wk...?
>>77267546>>77267546>>77267546NEW
>>77265684>>77266810>>77266937Correct answers but it's always important to emphasise: TIRZ IS KING.
>>77267067>didn't answer the questionSo you weren't being ironic, huh? You also have no idea...
200 test 100 decalipids looking good
>>77267994Sema feels the strongest to me, but tirz is 90% as good and doesn't fuck me up with constipation or indigestion. Reta is a mixed bag, I get insane sugar cravings on it.
>>77269366This all checks out actually. Sema is just 100% GLP-1 which is the thing that suppresses appetite (by giving you nausea). Tirzepatide uses GLP-1 along with GIP to give you its effect. The GIP keeps you physically full longer and spreads out the caloric intake of your food. Reta has something that acts like Glucagon so that might be having that weird craving effect. Mind you, these drugs have removed most of my cravings. I look at Doordash like I look at the food in my fridge. I just give up eating a bag of chips halfway through, thoroughly disinterested and sometimes just forget they're sitting right there on my desk. No way I would have done either of those things off of tirz and reta. I use a combo of both.
