>Who is /fat/ for?For Beach Bloatlords who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>77239005
Chonk
i haaaaate fatties so much its unreal
WAGMI
>>77242815that's right
>>77242814Now this is bulking!
haha fat dog
How can you tell what's fat and what's loose skin? Am I just coping by not assuming it's all fat?
How do I tell the difference between cardio failure and muscle failure? these pushups having me huffing and puffing like a pig but when I do weights I’m not nearly as out of breathe. I shouldn’t be getting winded doing 20 pushups though, and I’m not sure if its a more subtle volumetric burn or my heart just sucks.
>>77242852fat is thicc and squishy and not saggy.
46 workouts to go till goal
>>77242853>20 pushupsthis is a lot. you need to switch to the harder variant at 15 reps max.you know about the variant where you let your chest hit the ground and you lift your hands off the ground? this is the next push up progression.muscle failure is the inability of doing another rep. usually the muscle burn so much and you cannot do another rep at all. shitty heart means your just winded. i *think* this is you.
>>77242861>you know about the variant where you let your chest hit the ground and you lift your hands off the ground?NTA but is there a name for this so I could search this up?
>>77242861i assume getting winded means my heart sucks cause thats a cardio issue. I’m trying to do decline pushups to increase the intensity. those are a little harder
>>77242855Probably a little bit of cope from me and a little bit of loose skin, thanks.
>>77242874You can feel which zones are thinning out, it feels fluffy like cotton candy or cotton vs. yoga mat or soft rubber (dense fat). After the fluffy phase the next is loose skin.
>>77242799Remember to never eat carbs bros.
>>77242852>How can you tell what's fat and what's loose skin? Am I just coping by not assuming it's all fat?You actually can't really tell because subcutaneous fat looks like it could be loose skin. You won't know until you lean up more. Take collagen peptides, glyzine and l-lysine.
>>77243046glycine*
Stop over complicating fat loss dummies>wake up>black coffee>4 strips of bacon>slice of home made sourdough>lift>banana and a couple of rice cakes>go for a nice walk>come home make a steak and potatoes>afternoon coffee>play vidya>have some yogurt and fruits for light dinner with some honeyits just that easy.
>77243044>wearing a black shirt when trying to show off your physique Pure pussy shit LOL
is it possible to rangeban the ketoschizo? why are jannies so useless?
>>77242799Started the year at 280Now 247Target is 190I'm hungry anons.
>>77243070>I'm hungry anons.this >>77242814 is you whenever you say youre hungry. think about that.
>>77243057Post body.
>>77243073She's 247 pounds too?
>>77242799Sup /fat/ties what kind of supplements are you guys taking? Don't say GLP-1 or whatever gay shit you jab in your ass
>>77243100I only take protein powder and sometimes multivitamins since I'm sticking to 1600 calories per day and trying to keep protien above 165g.
>>77243100finasteride for hair, its making me want to kill myself again so I might have to stop.protein isolate for days when I can’t hit protein for the day. Usually I’ll eat canned tuna but I take the powder if I’m super far behind or if I just want a tasty milkshake-like thing. Cause its zero sugar and blends with milk into a frothy thick drink that tastes pretty good.
>>77243119>59g proteinnigga…
>>77243044im all for speaking ur truth ketoschizo but why make mean photos like these which put someone else down, not cool
Fatty ContestBagOMilk187.6
So far today I've hadBreakfast>oatmeal with cinnamon and honey (200 cal, 47 carb, 1 fat, 4.5 prot)>vanilla greek yogurt with protein powder and strawberries (250 cal, 30 carb, 2g fat, 38g prot)Tea (0 cal, 0,0,0)Lunch>6 oz chicken breast (200 cal, 0 carb, 4.5 fat, 38g prot)Roasted green beans (67, 10 carb, 2g fat, 2.8g prot) Couscous with olives and tomatos (225cal, 40g carb, 5g fat, 7g protein) Tonight I'm having curry chicken breast with wild rice and a yogurt sauce. Which should be about 600 cal, 57 carb, 16 fat, 55 prot.
>>77243119>>772431241 good scoop of protein powder might fix that if you only care about mantaining muscle
>>77243119What is this from?
>>77243129That guy was talking shit for multiple threads constantly before I finally put him in a comparison pic.I don't use progress pics from anyone who isn't a trash talker or doesn't volunteer to be in one.
>>77243142Just an AI chatbothttps://chat.z.ai
>>77243154Meant for >>77243147
>sick as fuck>cant stop coughing and spitting out mucus>haven't eaten in like 30 hours>not hungry at allso I guess it's that easy huh
>>77243154Did you ask it for a low protein diet?
>breakfast~4 oz chicken breast leftovers 140 cal.5 cup dry oats 150 calgreen tea unsweetened 0 calblack coffee 0 callunchwhite rice snd chicken 2 servings at panda express~1100 cal 78g proteindinner probably gonna be a can of tuna in water desu
>>77243158I listed what I've been eating for the past couple of weeks to see what I'm missing
>>77243148So absolutely no carbs? You can't even eat a cup of plain yogurt because dairy has carbs? You can't crack some pepper over your steak, because pepper has carbs? What a sad flavorless existence.
>>77243166I'm quite happy, thanks for your concern.Foods with no carbs like regular beef burgers, ribeye, short ribs, bacon, eggs, and cheese are delicious without carbs.Low-fat diets are suffering. Enjoy your turkey and rice cakes.
I swear some of you niggas overthink this all
>>77243173Eggs have carbs
>>77243129he’s a narcissist and compulsive liar. his only joy in life comes from flexing his mid physique on the most unfit general on the board and setting people on the wrong path by intentionally giving people flawed diet advice.
>>77243173Also, cheese has carbs, wtf are you doing retard? You said zero carbs, so no cheese and no eggs.
>>77243173>>77243178You're eating carbs ketofag, your whole life has been a lie.
>>77243184Any cheese aged 6 months has zero carbs.
>>77243193Nope, 2 year aged Parmagiano Reggiano still has 0.2 of carbs per serving, chatgpt confirmed it. You're eating carbs anon.
>nooo stop being lean while eating unlimited delicious zerocarb foods>you have to eat low-fat turkey like us!>you have to log your food in a diary like us!Stay mad haters.
>>77243205Milk, Eggs and cheese have carbs.
>>77243205Also, is that green shit an avocado? Anon, guess what's in avocado...carbs.
>>77243207>can't argue diet strategy>can't argue with results>forced to argue semanticsIf your diet is so fulfilling why are you so unhappy?Enjoy your low fat food and stop seething.
Fatty Contest Fatwicker 220 lbs Funny enough i took a fat shit and the weight came down. That's it bros. I hit my long term weight loss goal. Full 60 lbs off since january 7th of this year. Thought i had another 10 days at least. I originally planned to be dieting another month easy. I will extend my diet for another 5-10 lbs, try and get rid of some more of this belly fat before summer proper. I still dont look great, I need to get more muscle mass and I still have too much fat, and i have loose skin around my stomach but im finally at a fairly normal bodyfat%. Im starting to get a bicep vein when pumped and my dick is about and inch and a half longer. I feel human. I'm finally at a point where I can get actually fit.
>>77243148how does one learn this power and can you do keto while working out?
I miss ice cream so bad bros. How do I resist temptation
>>77243205>let me prove how great my diet is by showing off my fake waffle sandwhich. If keto and carnivore are so greta, why do you need to make fake bread? Fake bread is the carni/keto equivalent of a vegan making fake meat. It's how I know that diet isn't natural. You make fake bread because you want bread. Just like vegans make fake meat because they want meat. Also, the avocado sauce does have carbs.
>>77243233Get a ninja creami and make frozen yogurt.
Fatty contestMikey129254lbs
>>77243210>pointing out that I'm actually eating carbs when I said zero carbs is semanticsWhatever fag.
>>77243233Mate even a huge bowl of ice cream is like 500 calories. You could easily work that into a day like once a week.
>>77243228Yes you can do keto while working out. Performance is the same after 4 weeks of adaptation.There's not much to learn. Zero carb foods are aged cheese, meat, and eggs. You can eat unlimited amounts of them. Low-sodium bacon frequently has no sugar added. Choose higher fat for deliciousness and satiety. For example choose regular ground beef or medium at the leanest. Lean is disgusting and not satiating.There's all sorts of recipes you can make that are low/no carb. Check out Chris Cooking Nashville on YouTube for example.
>>77243085kys homo
>>77243245Eggs have carbs
Former fatties, did your skin get better after losing weight and eating healthier? Not talking about saggyness but the actual texture of it.
>>77243227Nice work anon now keep it off.
>>77243248Not really.
>>77243244Problem is all my exercise is walking. Not enough to burn all that fat
>>77243227you are not 220
>>77243260He’s probably tall
>>77243253yes they do have carbshttps://fdc.nal.usda.gov/food-details/748967/nutrients
>>77243265he is still not 220
>>77243227Grats anon, what was the routine looking like to lose the weight so fast? I’m honestly struggling to lose more than 3-4lbs a month at 226lbs 6’4
>>77242867Hand-release push-ups
>>77243252Thank you anon im gonna lose some more first, ive made immense progress in changing my habits so I finally feel in control of my appetite. >>77243260Anon i am 6'3" with 23" wide shoulders joint to joint. I started at 280 lbs. What weight do I look like.>>77243274Immense suffering at eating 1k to 1500 cals a day, dipping down to ~500 cals on weekends. Only ever took my birthday off from my diet. I managed to not have any major relapses but I do not recommend going that hard into it, that was really hard to maintain and if I was going to redo it I would have eased up and just extended my timeline. Gym 3-4 days a week, 1+ hour every session lifting and a physical labor job. I focused on eating mostly protein~150-200 grams a day to maximize satiation and minimize muscle loss along with the activity.
>>77243344>immense sufferingFigured, I’m a desk warrior and hit the gym but only twice a week, so I’m burning even less calories compared to you. I generally aim for 1500ish a day as well but I’d feel like death dropping to 500 and doing cardio too. I guess I’ll just stick to my pace so I don’t become miserable
>>77243344you look 180 at mostare you sure youre over 200?
>>77243360I was 180 at 6’1 and looked a lot smaller than him, and I was skinnyfat
>>77243384he must be sucking in his gut then he is not 200 let alone 220
Haven't seen Jonathan posting his feet and scale lately. Hope that scandanigga is okay.
I was at 245 lbs Sunday. I've lost 85 pounds since Lent started in February this year. I've been fasting, drinking only water, and only eating on Sundays. I've noticed that after I eat for the day, I gain 10 lbs, then by the next Sunday, I have lost 15 lbs. So I'm averaging about ~5 pound loss a week. Is this normal?I always break my fast with:Three activa yogurts; strawberry, cherry, and vanillaThree ice cream sandwichesA 12 oz glass of milkA 12 oz glass of orange juiceA 12 oz glass of apple juiceAn orangeHere's what I ate in addition yesterday:A plain cake donutA 9in homemade 6 egg with 1/2 cup cubed muenster cheese quicheA half of 9in peach pie homemade with chocolate, agave nectar, honey, evaporated milk, heavy whipping cream, and half package of vanilla puddingA slice of homemade pecan pieA sandwich with two slices of fried thick bologna, 4 slices of thin cut fried pepperoni, 4 slices of thin cut fried genoa salami, some peeled yellow onion, a 4th of a red pepper, and a 7 inch leaf of romaine lettuce on 6 inch rebaked french bread spread with mayonaisse2 oz of smart food white cheddar popcorn6 sensible portions garden veggie chips sour cream and onion potato crisps 4 12oz sugar free diet sodas: cherry, orange, dr, and grapefruit flavoredA big bowl of malt o meal fruity dyno bites with marshmallows cereal4 muenster cheese and onion enchiladasI ate this over the course of 18 hours; from 6 am to midnight.
>>77243386lean mass weighs more. he's got some muscle. I believe 220
>>77243386You know tall people weigh more right
>>77243399not always
>>77243386Nope neutral stomach>>77243401For fucks sake dude im just a very large person, not only in weight. I have a barrel chest, a very long torso and extremely wide shoulders/hips. I just weigh more. I have an okay amount of muscle mass as well, im fairly active. I've been weighing myself consistently for 5 months, I started at 280 lbs. I've weighed on 3 separate scales at points. I think I'd notice if I was "actually" 40 lbs lighter. This is after dinner today.
>>77243419if your weight isnt the issue then you must be underestimating your heighti know what 220~ looks like at 6'3 and it is not that
>>77242799How do i lose this goddamn pelvic fat pad
>>77243401Yes always dumbo, the fuck?
>>77243430theres could be a 300 lbs 5'10 guy and a 200 lbs 6'0 guywho weighs more?
>>77243437the 6'0 guy because 6'0 is heavier than 5'10
>>77243438??? noif they were both the same exact weight then the 6'0 guy would be heavier but in this case the shorter guy is heavier
>>77243437Nigger you are DUMB A 6’3 guy is 20 bmiA 5’7 guy is 20 bmiBoth with identical muscle compositionGuess who fucking weights more
I read that if you're an obese fat fuck and go on prolonged fasting (24hrs+) you could be at risk for gallbladder attacks and gallstones. And that any form of rapid weight loss can trigger and exacerbate this. Because of the liver producing increased cholesterol in the blood from the breakdown of fats, which cause gallstones to form faster. Also when you don't eat, the gallbladder shuts down and the bile crystalizes and solidifies. Really scared to do 24hr+ fasts now. I had a very minor stomach pain on my left side that lasted for a few hours, after eating a fatty cheeseburger and fries after a 29hr water fast. I don't think it's gallstones, because that should come from the right side. But it's still pretty spooky.
>>77243442no one mentioned bmi until now, you just outright said taller = heavier and i gave you an example as to how youre wrongway to move the goal post
>>77243447>no one mentioned bmi Cus you’re telling the nigga who’s tall and weighs 220lbs that he “”””looks””””” 180lbs Stfu I hope a Boulder rolls over you
I need to get new pants again.This is the worst part of losing weight, replacing clothes.
>>77243424I dont know what tell you man, I definately haven't gotten taller or anything. Im just built a little weird.
I dont have a dip station so I was thinking of using a box for tris like picrel, I don't want to explode my rotator cuff though so is this movement gonna fuck my shit up?
>>77243453i'd subject weighing yourself on a different/ new scale, >>77243450>says blatantly incorrect statement>gets proven wrong>"well no i meant this so actually ur wrong"
Retard above is just baiting
>semanticssound the heeb alarm
How bad is it?
>>77243476how much have you lost so far?
>>77243476>trigs higher than hdlYou need to quit eating carbs.
>>77243443F
>>77243477Just weighed myself. 15lbs off.
Where is he >>77239993
>>77243454Athleanx has a video about it. you'll need to position your hands and arms in a certain way that i can't remember clearly.i think your hands should be facing the sides instead of forward.look up the video and don't take my words for granted.
>>77243173>low carblast time i ate low carb i was starvinghigh protein is a meme.
>>77243488You need to eat fat with the protein. Eating only protein is rabbit starvation.
>>77243476>253 blood glucoseif you were 8 hours fasted when they took the sample, you have the beetus and you'll need to stop eating all carbs ASAP.
>>77243476>very high blood glucose>glucose present in urine>very high cholesterol >high blood pressure>43 BMINot a doctor but these readings seem pretty suboptimal. >>77243481Good job. Keep going.
>>77243487500 face pullsI found the video btw, thanks. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9llvBAV4RHI
>>77243454i saw this in your sketch of dips
>>77243493I was 4 hours fasted, and only had a single boiled egg at 12pm that day. Now my average blood sugar is at 140 over the past 30 days. Spikes to around 180 2hrs after a meal.
>>77243496lmfao
I've lost 70lbs over the last two years, I've fluctuated up and down. What gives me so much hope is that even though I've consistently failed to be 'green' on my calories (under 2100avg daily per month), I've lost the weight. I'm down so much and can see and feel so many differences.This image is one of consistent fuckups. It's a picture showing how retarded I often am, how easily I fall prey to my own gluttony, and yet, despite it taking a while, things are slowly getting better.Now I just need to imagine: What if I actually locked in for just a short amount of time? What if I actually hit that green? I'd shed. I'm so so close, too. I'm going to make it. You're going to make it.
planning on getting a standing desk and a under desk treadmill since I'm at my desk all dayfirst time i got thin i made a makeshift standing desk>couldn't stand for 5 minutes without painmade my way up to 11 hours a day of just standing at my desknow im fat again and i doubt i can stand more than a few couple hours
>>77243464My man I have weighed in on 3 separate scales, all of them are within a pound if each other. 2 are digital, and one is a doctor's office sliding weight one at my gym. I sincerely doubt all 3 are weighing me (according to you) at minimum 20 lbs heavy.
>>77243498>Now my average blood sugar is at 140 over the past 30 days140 is the limit of the beetus diagnosis. below 100 is normal.ditch carbs ASAP.
>>77243503I have a standing desk and it’s kinda nice, now I will raise my desk and stand for a while
>>77243502Usually it's easily done with diet optimization. Adding resistance training.
>>77243352Honestly man, the biggest thing is being able to keep your diet/deficit consistent. Even though the pace feels slow to you right now if your at a level of restriction that you feel you can maintain in the long term just keep at it. Your still gonna lose the weight, just a bit slower and probably feel a lot better than I did while doing it. A lot of people go into a diet just to burn out in a month because they try to commit to something they dont have the fortitude to stay on. what i did was probably a bit beyond what could be considered "healthy" weight loss. I've been dealing with incredibly low energy levels for months now. I set a pace at the very limit of what I could handle and it sucked ass. Just try and make a habit of hitting the gym more and even just like an extra 15-30 minutes of soft cardio like a brisk walk 3-4 times a week. The extra exercise helps a lot with energy levels when your in a calorie restriction IMO.
I want to join a fighting sport whats the best to get into? preferably something with kicking it's the only thing relatively impressive I can do.
>>77243523Been doing resistance training consistently for 7 months now. Seen big improvements on strength although still feel like there's a lot more to give.I just need to cut the impulsive crap and I think I'll drop like mad.
>>77243425Its a curse to prove that you were once always fat
>>77243526
>>77243535That manlet is doing the dumbest possible meme moves as a joke.
I have good news to report. I can see my penis again
>>77243513I've completely cut out soda and refined carbs. Trying to eat more meat, dairy, and whole foods in general. Like beans, lentils, nuts. Also added an occasional slice of whole grain "bible bread" with butter. I'm really bad at clean eating, but am making an effort.
>>77243488Eat fat and protein. Also, straight keto is not efficient, and after sometime you leptin levels will fall off which signals the brain to conserve energy, slowing down fat loss. Better to spike the leptin levels once a week with a carbohydrate refeed. It end up being faster weight loss, and a much healthier endocrine system.
>>77243535actually impressive
>>77243535It helps if you actually try to hurt the fat guy rather than running and bouncing off him like a retarded monkey.
>>77243550>Also, straight keto is not efficient, and after sometime you leptin levels will fall off which signals the brain to conserve energy, slowing down fat loss.Don't keeping your leptin levels low for a long period of time damages your brain?
>>77243548you really need to eliminate carbs, anon. it's not a disease that you can beat without fundamentally changing your diet.if you can have insurance for a GLP-1 drug, get it.
>>77243526>I want to join a fighting sport whats the best to get into?Something you enjoy, just avoid meme "fights" like krav-maga.
>>77243548>>77243498You have diabetes, this is very serious issue, please avoid taking advice from a ketoschizo and go see a doctor.
fat loss is pointless unless you go all the way and achieve .01% of the population level which is kit butler level. you just look fucking mediocre otherwise and skinny fat like everyone else
>>77243571>fat loss is pointless unless you go all the way and achieve .01% of the population level which is kit butler level.Nice bait, but keep in mind some people here are stupid enough to think being very skinny and lacking muscle is actually a good thing.
>>77243565>>77243570I don't mind cutting carbs, but it's very difficult. But if I go to a doc he will just prescribe me insulin. Which I do not want to take. Insulin will just increase my insulin resistance and make me fat. Something has to be done about the high blood sugar though. So either I go low-carb/keto or start intermittent fasting to increase my insulin sensitivity. I find it much easier to IF than creating low-carb meal plans. If I don't eat all day, my blood sugar can drop to 110.
>>77243565>if you can have insurance for a GLP-1 drug, get it.faggot. >risk your eyesight, and getting pancreatitist instead of dieting and exercise bro trust me faggot
>>77243583>So either I go low-carb/keto or start intermittent fasting to increase my insulin sensitivity. I find it much easier to IF than creating low-carb meal plans. If I don't eat all day, my blood sugar can drop to 110.I really think it's a bit too late for this.
>>77243571t. powerbloater
>>77243583You can try a no carb diet and pray there is still time to revert your situation, but the numbers you said are technically already type 2.
>>77243563>Don't keeping your leptin levels low for a long period of time damages your brain?Yeah chronically low leptin can rein in things like Alzheimer's. Can fuck up cognition.
>>77243548You need to be on zero carb. Don't mess around with bread or nuts.
>>77243583You already have the knowledge you need. You can definitely reverse your metabolic syndrome/prediabetes/full blown diabetes.Fasting helps a lot. Zero carb when eating.
>>77242814At least her protein intake is off the charts
>no tomatoClassic!
I love da zeppy
>>77243631And here comes the schizo, you'd rather see someone dead than pass a chance to not lie and shill, wouldn't you?Even in the rare case where someone may need a no-carb diet for medical reason, you'll try to sell it as a magic cure that will work...
Started Jan 2 at 91kgNow 79kg5' 9", so still have a way to go till im actually slim.
>use greek yogurt as sour cream>have a little leftover after my weekly meals>add in an aspartame packet and some frozen berriesThis shit is great. I wonder how many meals I can find a way to add it into.
>>77243635>You can definitely reverse your metabolic syndrome/prediabetes/full blown diabetes.Sometimes this can be done, sometimes it can't be done, before insulin could be produced the only treatment for diabetes, both types, was trying a ketogenic diet, where type 1 patients slowly died and around +80% type 2 patients also slowly died.So it's true one can reverse full blown diabetes, but the vast majority will not archive this no matter the diet.
>>77243685>>use greek yogurt as sour creamglad I'm not the only one that noticed the similarity
>>77243657How much protein you eating? What's your macro intake like? And what kcal deficit you in? I'm about to start 5mg zep dose, currently at 1lb per week loss, but digging the 1.5lb per week
>>77243244That's like a pint of Halotop. To a fatty, a huge bowl is probably a lot more. I just eat Halotop once in a while, or greek yogurt bars. Picrel in Leafland also has similar calories to Halotop and is pretty delicious.
>>77243526mauy thai
The weight goes consistently downAround 20 Kilos I have left to loseToday is another fasting day
>weighed in today under 100 for the first time since I was 16good shit
>>77243751Noice Never Go over ot ever again
>>77243751Very nice. Keep the good work.
>>77243685>>77243703Does using greek yogurt as sour cream only work if its a small part of a recipe? I want to find a good dip for vegetables and if I can put ranch seasoning in greek yogurt and make it taste good that would be awesome.
>>77243657Imagine needing a drug to lose 7lbs a month. You are a faggot.
>>77243806it doesn't have exactly the same consistency or reaction to heat but it tastes similar to sour cream it would probably work for dip
was looking down at my belly while doing a plank. my gut juts out in a fucking grotesque way. I poked it and it felt firm like a flexing muscle. is it supposed to do that
>>77243874post pic
>>77243806It won’t taste like ranch dressing, it’ll taste like ranch yogurt dip but you develop a taste for it in its own way. Blended up cottage cheese is also a good base for dips. Add some taco seasoning and nutritional yeast, maybe some milk to thin it out and you have diet queso
>>77242799It’s official. A tick bit me and gave me that alpha gal thing. I can no longer eat red meat or dairy for the forseeable future. See ya later fatsos Skinny kingdom here I come!
>>77243932Bioweapon created by the elite to force everyone to become vegan and you don’t even get a choice like with the vax. Sad!
>>77243129Because he's a deuchebag and he has nothing better going for his life but to constantly haunt this thread. I geniuenly consider learning how to set up a bot that would automatically turn on new proxy, recognize his posts and reply to each with meatspin.gif because he's just that annoying.
>>77243044who needs to eat keto when you can just fast and get into ketosis?sounds like a waste of time lmao
Fatty Contestoldskinnyfatbastard171 lbsmy scale was on the fritz for my last measure when it said I was 4 lbs lighter. noticed it today when it said a number that was way off. Kinda sad that the last weigh in I got was a lie but it did push me to do better.
>>77243244>Mate even a huge bowl of ice cream is like 500 caloriesImagine just straight up lying to people trying to lose weight
5'5Was at 147lbs but have let things slip near my weight goal and I'm now at 150lbs weighing myself today. Definitely feel like I took my foot off the gas with people around me saying I look great and I'm going to lose muscle and need to eat more, that kind of stuff etc but my goal was to get to around 138-140lbs. Definitely need to reframe my mindset back into treating myself as a fat blob to help motivate myself.
>>77244164>150>fat blobeven at your height that's nothing, don't be so hard on yourself
>>77244164You look great, no need to force yourself! Positive vibes only <3>lmaoGo run around the block a few times, fatass. Fork down to failure for eternity, you fat piece of shit!
>>77244172I understand, it's more about keeping me in a certain mindset to make sure I can stay on track.
>>77244004Fasting is great but keto or at least low-carb when you eat is essential. Both combine nicely.
>>77244349I'll skip the fries when I get my kebab.
fatty contestMT_FATSO103.1kg176cm
To those of us who are close to graduating from this general, remember to never relapse.
>>77244431You don't graduate until you maintain for 2+ years without any regain.CICO fails because it results in guaranteed weight regain. If you think you have succeeded when you hit your goal weight you're delusional.
>>77244447To those of us who are close to graduating from this general, after 2+ years without any regain, remember to never relapse.
>>77244447Is CICO guaranteed to fail or is it just CICO where people are only managing calories while refusing to engage in a lifestyle change that CICO should be supporting?
>>77244475CICO is guaranteed to fail if you actually do it as it claims >Cut down instead of cutting outThis doesn't work. Eating smaller amounts of fattening food just lowers metabolism and causes weight regain.If you change the type of food you eat by eliminating sugar and grains then estimating calories isn't a problem. Dr Now on My 600-lb life tells people low-carb, high-protein, 1200 calories a day. That will work if people stick to it.A lot of calorie believers do low-fat diets which is the worst possible diet with the lowest chances of success.
>>77244449I thought I'd do it but I failed
>>77244489People who almost only eat fruits are never fat.Fruit contains lots of sugar.Sugar is good for me.
>randomly gained 0.5 kg in 2 days after losing weight consistently for weeksI know it's water weight, but shit is demotivating.
>>77244520Stalled for a week then lost 3.5kg in 5 days, water weight is a bitch but not much you can do, maybe try eating one day at maintenance.
It really is fucking simple:1. Skip breakfast, limit calories to around 1500kcal @ 150g protein (protein shakes, steak, chicken, tuna, whatever - just reduce carbs to get to the point where you're under 1500kcal) 2. Run 2x week, lift 2x weekt. anon who lost 20kg in 9 months, easily running 10k to 1/2 marathon, 70k OHP + 90k Bench + 115k Squat + 135k Dead. Not great but fine while cutting.
so what about water fasting brosbeen doing 3 weeks of eating every 2nd or 3rd daylost quite a bit, gonna continue for like 3 more weeks atleast, cus I gotta go to a wedding and I dont want to buy new clothes lmfao, havent entered the contest thing cus its basically cheatingI did a 21 day fast a few years back, this eating 2-3 times per week is kinda easier and seems sustainable even when working and physical activitiesI am eating salads+protein shakes, and some junk food and I also drink lolam I killing myself?
>>77244527anon this thread is for actual fat ppl
>>77244526alright. hope this shit drop soon.
>>77244475like most fanatics/schizos he's intentionally exaggerating to create an emotional response, and he is aware of it himselfwhen people make absolute statements like "everyone" or "guaranteed" they often mean "a majority" as in statistical termswhich is correct, since most people who reach obesity and then try to lose it relapse into their old eating habits and are unable to maintain a long-term weight deficit
Is getting 10000mg collagen daily worth it? My weight loss has been pretty smooth but what I'm most worried about is loose skin. I'm already doing microneedling weekly and urea cream daily. Lost 16kg in 2 months but not noticing the loose skin yet. I know I should slow down but then I lose motivation, it's easier for me to go all in.
>>77244531Anon, at 105kg / 235lbs at 175cm / 5'8 - I was obese - now I'm still overweight.I used to weigh 120kg / 265lbs and dropped that with fuckarounditis and not eating like a hog.I've got a long way to go but while it's not easy it really is that simple. You should stop majoring in the minors, and just put in the time/reps.
Opinions on using this to quench hunger? The lack of alcohol is a huge plus but I wonder what's the consensus on hop as it supposedly has phytoestrogens
>>77244570If it stops you drinking alcohol it's a net benefit. I tend to drink alcohol free 90% of the time now because I sleep better, I recover better, I still get the social gains at the pub/etc. and don't have to feel shit about ruining my calories for the day or bingeing afterward.I should clarify I do occasionally have a regular beer, but it's once a week instead of multiple times per day.
>>77244040You know the standard size ice cream tub in stores, the one that costs $3-4? There's typically about 2100 calories in that whole container. A quarter of that container should absolutely qualify as a "huge bowll" faggot. Ice cream isn't a black hole of infinite calories, and you're allowed to eat junk food in small occasional portions. That's what normal people do.
I had 2 fiber goysquares as a snack
>>77244589I rarely drink alcohol but I do enjoy the taste. I avoid it for the obvious reason of shitting up your body.I chug low calorie ginger ale (10 kcal per liter) and water to stay satiated and I thought that adding NA Zero Calorie Beer would keep my dinner less boring, if other people haven't seen an issue with "one of the most potent phytoestrogens" I guess I can drink a can or two every now and then
>>77244447You are truly a retard.>calories in, calories out doesn't work when you stop doing itThis is you, every single day. Fuck you.
New low after a slight gain during my stood work trip where I wasn't able to go to the real gym and had to work out in a mini hotel gym. Back on the steady loss train.
>>77243244How many ounces is a "huge" bowl anon? Maybe in britland you think an 8 ounce bowl is huge, in muttmerica 24 ounce bowl would be huge.
>>77244606Well done anon, we're all going to make it.
>>77244606>177Look at this skinny dude pretending to be fat. Unless you're a manlet.
>>77244607>>7724459112 fl oz, whatever the fuck the means. A quarter of this container. It really is a lot, more than you should have in a single bowl. Like 550 calories.
>>77244610I'm 5'11". Still 14lbs to go till 155 naked goal.
>>77243874yes? planks train abs?suck in your gut while doing planks to train the transversus abdominis.
>>7724461412 ounce would be a small in America.
Mods should just ban ketoschizo already. This retard is shitting on every thread and baiting newfags, this general has become insufferable because of him. Every thread becomes the same retarded flamewar. I don't even think he believes what he says mind you, he just knows he can easily get a rise out of newfags. It's fucking annoying.
>>77244449i relapsed after about 3 years mostly due to hitting new depths of depression i'd never reached before thatbut this time i'll learn my lesson for sure
>>77244449as long as there is no crippling depression.I only got relapsed because of that shit.
I relapsed hard because of depression too anons, we gotta fight Pic related
>>77244518Based>>77244489CICO let me fall from 120 kg to a muscular 80 kg. I can even do herculean tasks like walking in the park.
>>77244449Depends when you got fat. If you were fat as a kid then you'll always be obese, your fat cells empty when you lose weight but they'll always be there. Regaining is guaranteed unless you're permanently on appetite supressants like tirz.If you got fat as an adult you're in the clear.
>>77244692He seemed to lose the cool swag awesomeness personality when he lost the weight. He wasn't josh anymore he was just like a guy. Still good for him tho I wasn't trying to take away from that
>body telling me again that I'm gonna die if I keep eating like thisSHUT THE FUCK UP
>>77244697He was always just the silly fat kid actor though. Nickelodeon full of groomers anyway
my fucking scale is tweaking out again. Cheap piece of walmart trash fuck this
Both me and my gf have gained about 20lbs since we moved in together. We were chubby back then but now we are very fat and we are currently working on losing weight. I’m still physically attracted to her (even with the weight gain) but she’s not attracted to me at all anymore and we have sex less than once a month. We are not so fat that having sex is impossible but she just doesn’t want to do it, and getting rejected constantly is fucking my self esteem. Her sex drive isn’t gone because I know she masturbates by herself. Any advice other than losing weight (which I know has to happen)
Bro I don’t wanna read about two obese peoples sex life
>>77244726too bad y’allready did now be useful
>>77244723ditch the bitch and lift
>>77244723You're throwing that "we" around a lot lol. Focus on you losing weight. In the 5% chance she actually loses weight with you and the 5% chance things go back to normal between you afterward, then great. If not, there's more dead weight you'll have to drop.
I started at 390lbs at 5’5” but I will be a planetham no longer https://youtu.be/aO3lRQvXBwk?si=KjCj-kH71LEFj4OT
>>77244697He is Jewish, they generally get weird and annoying with age
>>77244614That is not your average ice cream surely, that's some peanut butter chocolate bits in it. Surely average ice cream at the store is vanilla, strawberry or chocolate and stuff like that?
>>77244723If you don't have sex, she's your roommate, not your girlfriend.
>>77244723>Any advice other than losing weight (which I know has to happen)anon, there is no way of solving this beside weight loss.It's a physical attraction problem, not a mental one.
>>77244748You are right. That's the ice cream I buy, because that shit is fucking awesome. Regular chocolate is 3/4 the calories, but I would rather eat the ice cream I like less often than settling for bland junk food more often.
>>77244654>can't argue against facts, logic and science so let's ask the mods to ban him
>>77244676Post body.
>>77244723have you tried talking to her?
>>77244603CICO doesn't work even if you continue to do it, due to metabolism.
>>77244787You're dumbest fucking retard on this site
>>77244787>the fat sustains itself from nothingRetards should be permabanned.
>>77243657Based graph trend
>>77244778Get a life and fuck off.
>>77244787Few people actually know this trick. Shit could solve world famine in a year, but the elites don't want you to know so they push for CICO>have a 2200 kcal TDEE>get in a CICO 1800 kcal/day>metabolism adapts, you stop losing weight>get in a CICO 1400 kcal/day>metabolism adapts, you stop losing weight>...>...>get in a CICO 400 kcal/day>metabolism adapts, you stop losing weight>...>get in a CICO zero kcal/day>metabolism adapts, you stop losing weightThey don't want you to know it!
>>77244591>should>qualify>by my standardsAh OK
>>77244489Imagine spamming this 62 times here to gaslight yourself that calorie restriction doesn't work even though it's never failed ever.Sad
>>77244675>pic relatedWhat
>>77244830>>77244815>>77244796Stop engaging with the keto troll
>>77244723fuck her while she watches porn or however she masturbates
>>77244837you know you can read the nutrition info on any brand, flavor, and size of whatever food you buy right
>>77244860Sorry I didn't read since you're argument is in bad faith. Hope things get better or sorry you're upset or whatever this post was about. Gunna hide your posts and replies now.
>>77244863>I am lazy, retarded, and like to assume the worst of everything and everyonebe sure to add "anonymous" to your filter dumbass
>muh carbs r da devilIs this thread filled with women? Carbs are necessary as they are energy for the body. Good luck doing any kind of even slightly intense cardio on a low carb diet.
>>77244787What if I do Cico and keto at the same time?
>>77244723As depressing as it is to say, and I'm not saying you should dump her but she doesn't respect you at all. It's you and it's her, not you both together.
>>77244723She doesn’t want to have sex because she doesn’t feel sexy because she knows she’s gross and fat. It’s less to do with her attraction to you and more about self esteem. Arguably women’s biggest turn on is “feeling” desirable, it’s the same reason they wear lingerie for special dates. If you really just want to have sex call her pretty/sexy often, smack her ass a lot, that kind of thing. It might work but it won’t work as well as if she was to lose weight.
>>77244872The schizo simply can't, that's the joke. He's so restricted it's unreal. That's why he posts /fraud/ influencers. Makes you wonder why he never posts body. Not the age old video or the black shirt.
>>77244743taking small steps at first to cut out just the very worst habits is a good approach for sure if being overweight has been a lifelong thing. the very most important part of losing weight will be to form new healthy habits to carry with you for hopefully your whole life, so doing it at a pace you find tolerable and sustainable is important.may this initial success give you the strength to lock in even more.
>4000 calories on the fourth day of dietinglike clockwork. how do i beat this curse?
Remove snacks from your home and drink tea when feeling peckish
>>77245022What did you have to eat? Break it down for us and there will probably be a solution hidden within it all.
>>77245022identify the moments where you are most likely to overeat and try to avoid what causes them
Had a dream that my family stocked the kitchen with a bunch of snacks and I gorged myselfGlad that wasn't a reality
>havent eaten in 2 days>lost 1.5 poundsits that easy
>>77244602The oddest thing is that I actually prefer the test of AF beer these days, particularly if it's good stuff. Sometimes a cold alcohol free lager in the sun is fine too for the experience rather than taste. I tried to lie to myself that I would just have wine and spirits, but I realised I was turning into a functional alcoholic - would drink a bottle of wine between lunch and the end of the working day, or cane half a bottle of whisky with soda/ginger ale in the evening.Whatever fractional impact the use of AF beer has, it is orders of magnitude better than drinking frequently.
>>77245025I'd like to add something to this anon's post. I feel like for me personally the real damage gets done in the shop when I'll be doing my weekly or bi weekly shop, before I've even eaten anything at home. Avoiding picking up something sweet or unhealthy, because once it's in the house there is definitely going to be a point where I'll give in and eat something that's like 600 calories or more. Once that's been eaten I'm still going to have to eat other stuff just to feel full which is where the damage comes in. Avoiding that stuff in the shop really helps once you're in the comfort of your own home.
finally broke through my plateau :)numbers are going down again (ᵕ̈)و
>>77245026i eat anything and everything. from real food to candies.>>77245027i'll try this. but i can't think of any. i just get an intense hunger that doesn't go away when i eat some so i eat some more. 30 minutes later and the hunger is still there so i gulp down more food and so on and so forth until i feel full then it's already an oopsie.
>>77245022Tirzepatide.
>>77245254guess you could benefit from some appetite regulator thenor eat more satiating foods, assuming that it's not only a result of your hunger hormones
45 workouts to go till goal
I was never a genuine fatso, only let my bf% occasionally get too high before the cut due to dirty bulking, but after I turned like 25+ I noticed every time I eat however I feel like I eventually end up gaining weight way too fast and I need to consciously limit my appetite. Counting calories works well, especially when you want to lean bulk. I don't think you ever "graduate" past that level, you always have to keep some sort of structure, otherwise eating slop gets too tempting and your habits get subjected to the slippery slope efect.
My training is much more optimized doing upper/lower split vs push pull legs Easier to organize and can still specialize things a lot with high volume
>>77245253Good job bro! Keep it up
I have been counting calories using cronometer. I have consistently tracked my calories to be about 1600-1800 kcal every day for a long time now, many months, probably a year. I slowly went from 83 kg to 76 kg, but now it has stalled and I have been stuck at around 76 kg for a long time. At 76 kg with 184 cm of height, 140 g of protein daily and lifting 2-4 times a week, 1500-1800 should be plenty of a deficit for continued fat loss? I am starting to think that only calorie counting actually doesn't work, and disciplined clean eating is necessary.
>>77245349eliminate carbs for a while and see how it goes.keep counting calories in addition to the carb elimination.
>>77245349Protein has a thermic effect, depending on the source you're getting only 70-85% of the calories digested. That might fuck up calculations if your protein sources and amounts vary. Also depending where you live can affect your BMR. You really notice it when living near the arctic. Lots of variables.
>>77244782Ketoschizo is the only one damaged enough to be upset someone made it, isn't it?
>>77245350>eliminate carbs for a while and see how it goes.The last guy who followed your advice got called a lot of mean stuff by you after he said your diet made him fatter and weaker, remember?
tell me the loose sagging stomach skin will look better when it's less filled up with remaining subcutaneous fat
Is it even worth trying to get fit in your mid 30s? Too old for my skin to tighten up, too bald to look good regardless of my body.
>>77245412It will look a lot better.
>>77245426Do you want to be even more miserable in your 40s?
>>77243583Mate, you are really beyond bro science from an image board full of weirdos. Go see an actual physician, follow a treatment plan. You should and can still lose weight while on insulin. With weight loss, you can come of the meds and you'll have an incentive and constant reminder to do so. But for the meantime, stop taking damage to your organs that can't be reversed. See a doctor!
>>77245435He just need to stop eating carbs.
>>77245426It's always worth it, make sure to exercise as well as changing your eating habits. Your energy levels will change, you'll be able to move your body in ways you weren't able to before and you get a bigger dick.
>>77244883Should work great. Fasting also works.
>>77243583>>77243548the way I dropped carbs and took on more meat/dairy was gradually. I replaced or dropped one thing per week. change your snacks from sweets to nuts. do it slowly, just like you put on the weight. about a year in I noticed my stomach shrank and I couldn't eat a whole steak anymore, I didn't have the room anymore. crash dieting just creates wreckage
>>77244872Nice excuse to eat fattening food, doughboy.Carbs give no benefit to athletic performance.
>>77245435>You should and can still lose weight while on insulinInsulin injections cause weight gain.
>Three different weights within 10 minutes of each other>Average them together>Log thisThis is what I've been doing for the past 6 months. But I'm trying to figure out why it even happens.
>>77245488fuck dude I don't know whats going on with my scale either>put 45 lb weight on scale>45 lb>step on scale>says either 171 lb 165 lb or 167 lbI have no idea how to fix this bullshit
>>77245254Meal prep and completely pre-portion your meals in separate containers, chew your food slowly, chug a cup of water before and in the middle of your meals. Have absolutely nothing for snacks in your house other than things like pickles, raw vegetables etc. Frankly you’re going to need to wrestle up the willpower to stop eating after you’ve had your meal but these tricks can make it easier.
When I was in my mid 20s I lost 15kg in a 3 or so months by just not eating too much. Now I'm 36 and I ain't fucking losing anything despite eating way less.It's fucking over for me.
>>77245349>1500-1800 should be plenty of a deficit for continued fat lossNot really. You’re not a huge guy, solidly in healthy weight BMI and that’s not very active (always use sedentary settings anyway). It gets much harder to lose fat the leaner you get but cardio can help at that point. 1800 is quite close to your TDEE. It could easily be within the margin of error of your calorie counting unless you’re being very diligent with a food scale, zero cheating etc. How “slow” was it losing 13 kg?
>>77244883CICO works, keto is niche but shouldn't disrupt CICO.
>>77245470Insulin injections cause an increase in hunger, one can still lose weight taking these.Would you rather have that anon not take medicine for diabetes?
New thread here >>77245592
>>77245468>Carbs give no benefit to athletic performance.we got some retards on this board
>>77245584Type 2 diabetes is hyperinsulinemia. Insulin injections aren't medicine for type 2 diabetics, they are poison. Eventually causing very profitable kidney failure and dialysis. You sound like a good goy who got injected with mRNA injections for the coof.
>>77245599Based, getting fat people killed just to preach a weird ass diet on 4chan.
>>77245544>Meal prep and completely pre-portion your meals in separate containersHe'll just eat all the prepped meals in one go.
>>77245470Why don't women inject their booba
>>77245022>how do i beat this curse?Zero carb. Hunger and cravings go away after a few days.
>>77245426I'm getting fit at 46 after being 300-350lbs for decades. Skin tightens fairly decently if you leverage autophagy (OMAD). I'd also recommend weekly carb refeeds if you're doing keto. And taking collagen peptides, l-lysine, and glycine. Unironically, you're going to want fiber too. Psyllium husk, Etc. In your thirties it will be surgery level good unless you have just genetically rolled a bad roll in that department.
I just bought my first protein powder but it didn't come with a scoop. What do?
>>77245836Use a scale? Having a scale is more important anyway.
>>77245836the scoop is probably buried at the fucking bottom
Holy shit I mixed protein powder (choccy flavor) with greek yogurt and that shit is amazing
>>77245593at least wait until the bump limit is hit
>>77245409>remember?no. i'd never call an anon that.post a screenshot
>>77245488>>77245537make sure the cale is on a single floor tile and isn't wobbling.checl the battery too.
Dear Fat guys and girls.none of you should have to go through this journey alone. Alone, its so so hard. But what you need above all else. Is someone who loves you, someone who cares for you and keeps you accountable.Definitely suggest finding another fat girl or fat guy and helping eachother. Then even if you fail. Its not the end of the world. we'll continue tomorrow. lets push eachother to be better instead of expecting yourself to struggle alone>Love, anon <3
currently on OMAD, but not every day or I start feeling too weak. When I get hungry in the evening I just remind myself that hunger equals fat burning>>77245550your BMR hardly changed, you are just doing something wrong. Maybe you used to be more physically active?
