>Who is /fat/ for?For carbloading carnivores who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>77298176
I'm averaging about 16,000 steps a day with a weighted vest. Will this help fat loss or should I do something more high intensity? Calories are around 2400
>>77302147How do you even have time to get that many steps in?
>>77302147What's your heartrate at when you walk?If <Z2 increase intensity.If ≥Z2 you're good, keep doing what you're doing.
>>77302150You don't have time to walk for 2 hours?
>>77302158It takes a lot longer than 2 hours to walk 16k steps.
>>77302166No it really doesn't, 8k steps an hour is a very normal pace.
i hate fatties so much its unreal
>>77302147>I'm averaging about 16,000 steps a day with a weighted vest. Will this help fat loss or should I do something more high intensity? Calories are around 2400The only thing that matters is how much of a caloric deficit you are in compared to your total daily energy expenditure. Losing weight is 95% just not stuffing your face. Nothing else matters. Walking, lifting weights. Lifting a finger. It's fucking meaningless. Diet is all that matters.
>>77302178Go to /fph/ then faggot
>>77302147Walking is a scam unless it's the only thing you can do.
>>77302170>10k steps is ~5 miles>3 mph is a mile every 20 minutes (Average walking speed for an adult)>20 minutes x 5>1hr 40minYeah, checks out
>make cole slaw for first time>get recipe up>wait that's a lot of fucking mayo and sugar>okay I'll just halve the recipe and use the rest of the cabbage to make haluski or something >make the dressing>put half the cabbage in>wait a second, that's pretty heavily dressed>put the full cabbage in>it's dressed perfectly fine>I literally halved all the unhealthy shit in the recipe and got the same yieldWhy is this type of thing so common? Is it just an American thing? You'll see it at restaurants too where they oversauce pasta to all fucking hell
>>77302229A lot of things with sauce are just a way to get the sauce to their mouth for people.
I'M HUNGRY
>>77302199Running is better?
My left foot feels weirdIts felt weird for monthsThis is after I lost weight The fuck is going on?
>>77302190eat more if you love it so much, fat fuck
>>77302255elaborate. also, do you sit or sleep funny?
My nephew got me doing pushups yesterday. I did zero. My back, arms, and legs are aching. Like five minutes total?
>>77302178We can't help ourselves past a certain age!t. 36. 5'7", 105 lbs but sarcopenic obesity
>>77302255You got the beetus!!!
>>77302133Damn it feels good to be a zerocarber.
>>77302295you look like utter shit
>>77302295Zero carbs means zero energy and no pump
>>77302307>bro you can't walk down the street without consuming a loaf of bread per hour, your bodys turboboosters will run out!!!this is what you sound like, get sunlight faggot
>>77302254It burns slightly more calories but wears down your joints. If you have access to an elliptical machine it is the best because you can move fast like running but without impacting your joints.
>lose 50lbs>walking daily for an hour and a half>feet hurt all day afterwards>wake up feet acheRinse repeatThought this shit was suppose to get easier? I've been sore and aching for over a month and I'm still losing weight.
>>77302254no, walking and running are both terrible longterm if you're a fatty. you'll be crying for knee replacement by the time you're 40.swimming >>>>>>>>> all other options
any tips on beginner lifting? i did it once, and i injured myself and didn't lift again. now im ready to start again but i dont know what im doing. or if anyone has a good video series to watch?
>>77302147don't listen to the anti-walk brigade. walking drops all cause mortality by 60% and can restructure the hippocampus in the brain (makes your memory better). multiple studies done on it. Your body was built to walk. It does wonders for you. Walking after meals stops insulin resistance too
>>77302385Rest day, muh nigga. Rest. Day.
>>77302393Hasn't one anon lost like 100lbs just walking to and from work every day?
>>77302393its too bad our cartilage hasn't caught up with double the human lifespan over the last 400 years
>>77302398i saw that one tooi certainly noticed the difference when i worked at home during the pandemic. when i got back to walking to the train station and all of the city weight dropped off massively without any change in diet
>>77302400Fatty copium, no one is wearing out their knees from regular walking. Post body.
>>77302133I'm so fat bros, 184 this morning, 5 foot 7, i need to be ~167 to feel healthy
>>77302147should be eating no more than 1500 cals if you want to lose weight, regardless of what you do all day
>>77302307>but doc where else can our bodies get energy?
>>77302283I tend to sit on my right foot with it under my left thigh>>77302293Wouldn't I have other symptoms
>>77302418same but i need to be 135
>>77302405my aunt regularly walked / ran / did marathons for 25 years. one day she tripped and her knee exploded like glass, it gets you nowhere longterm. walking is a good starting point but thats it unless you want people with knock knees to be crippled and fat again at 45
>>77302423That seems pretty low but I’ll give it a shot.
>>77302433>with it under my left thighthe "it" is still your right foot, right?if so, you're squeezing the nerves that go down to your left foot. stop sitting that way or having anything pressing on the back side of your leg.
>>77302444Yeah the "it" is my right footThat's what I was thinking too but I don't knowI really wanna go to the doctor and get a physical but LOL AMERICA
>>77302133I'm going on a spur of the moment trip next week. I need to lose 1.5-2kg in 5 days. What's the best non-fasting way to do this? Thinking of walking 12k steps at least daily. Maybe some 5k runs or swimming if I can do it without getting ravenously hungry and eating everything I own.I'm not a fatty by any means, I just need to reveal my lower abs earlier than I thought I did.
>>77302453PSMF + as much cardio as you can handle
>>77302453do keto strictly no carbs and you'll lose that much in water weight.
>do tdee calculator >eat 600 calories less then I need>workout 3 time a week >did not lose a single pound this week down to the .8Im already so hungry and tried all the time fuck.
>>77302477It's one week, you fucking goober.Weeks are a manmade thing. Your body does not know what a "week" is.You need to be patient.
>>77302477all muscle
Walked 10k steps to the spot, caught this tilapia. Now imma eat him. About 12oz (raw) of filet, 2 roasted carrots n 2 taters, little bit of cancer for the dopamine. Also, haven’t tapped in for a hot minute. Did we 86 the ranking system?
Fatty ContestTonerBitch197.2lbs>>77302542>Sage cause my new reading glasses clearly aren’t working.
23 workout left till goal
Shit mane, this fasting shit has become my new normal. And to think I used to buy fast food twice a day just a couple weeks ago. Crazy
>>77302477Ditch the carb and you will not be hungry and tired.
>>77302618Wow, that's a legit insane transformation. She looks so much better.
>>77302618this. carbtards are worse than cocaine addicts
>>77302643I don't really understand the argument. If someone is really fat, they can literally just drink water, electrolytes, and a multivitamin for a year and be fine. Keto as well. A large enough fat reserve makes it completely safe. But keto, like eater fasting, becomes less and less optimal the leaner you get. Once you get under 20% body fat, keto is going to start taking lean body mass too. You're not going to have a way to spike your leptin, which is going to fuck your metabolism and make you generally fatigued all the time. You basically turn into a sickly skinny fat zombie. You need carb balance under 20% body fat.
>>77302618I used to do keto back in the day, I was tired all the time. I do plan to eat less carbs though
>>77302680No anon if you eat 1 carb you get type 1 2 and 3 diabetes immediately
>>77302477To expand on this rant>me, mid 30s, use to be fit in my 20s so I know what im doing overall>get fat thanks to not carring about what I wat, 200lbs. Short guy so that's bad the heaviest I have ever been>1400 caloire diet, working out 3 times a week>get down to 180 in about 2 months >weight loss stops, just stops weekly weight in shows the exact same number. Im still well below my caloire defectI honestly dont know where I fucked up. Im going to up my workouts to have more carido, and caloires down to 1300. Im going to need to eat mostly protein to hit 100g a day i think
>>77302685Imagine being so resentful and ass stretched about people not eating carbs as much these days that you sit on 4chan making snarky little gay sarcastic posts about it. Sort your fucking life out.
>>77302695We're both here and you're on some high horse about my shiposting
>>77302542Are we broken as a society
>>77302693You didn't fuck up. It's just glycogen replacing the fat in the fat cells keeping a light on for the fat to return until your body says fuck it. Then you will piss a lot in a "whoosh" and lose a ton of weight all of a sudden. It's just water leaving. However it is possible that you've been in deficit long enough and not eating enough carbs for leptin to keep fat burning at optimal levels. But two months probably isn't long enough to be in deficit for that to happen. You'll just woosh soon.
>>77302697whats wrong w it
>>77302693>200lb>fatglorified water weight. you're not /fat/ until the number starts with 3
>>77302725I am 5'10"
>>77302729I was 5'10 and around 230I'm at 180 atmI don't really look visibly different unless you really look at before and afters
>>77302725
I think I'm finally hitting the dreaded plateau, fellas. I'm trying to stay positive, but goddamn is this demoralizing.
>>77302693You fucked up when you did CICO. It destroys metabolism. Pic related.
>>77302697Most definitely. Birthday cake shake makes you less sad in your heart of hearts tho.> little bit of cancer for the dopamine.
>>77302244you will gain your weight back eventually if you're hungry during your "diet"that's why 95% of people fail to lose weight years after years, they dont change their diet they just eat less the same foodss that made them fat in the first place if you eat low fat high carb, you are always satisfied, never hungry, full energy, low cholesterol and lose weight at the same time
>>77302753>high carbDiabetus
>>77302255go to a fucking doctor, why can't men just do this
>>77302753Thank you carb merchant.
>>77302758I live in the US and I don't have insuranceEverything is paycheck to paycheck cause nobody will hire me so I have to be a cuck slave to Uber Eats and barely afford my rent and food let alone a doctor
>>77302754fructose if taken in excess can burden live yes, like drinking sodas or fruit juices can cause insulin resistanceglucose however nearly impossible, even in massive excess. that's why he had seveal billion asians and type 2 diabetes was unheard of before western food restaurants landed therediet was only rice and noodles for them, and still is for most japs and koreans. they're thin with perfect blood glucosein the west the more fat / glucose ratio there is in diet like uk, usa and central europe, there more fat people with diabetes you will have
>>77302771liver, not livefructose is metabolized in liver all, like alcohol. glucose is the primary human energy source which is burnt as heat even in case of excess, it's the healthiest food for humans
>>77302766it's just very hard to change the heads of people they lack creativity. they've been told carbs made them then given example why donuts or pizza makes them fat because they are carb foods. no, they're fat foods. full of fat.carb foods are rice, baked potatos, even pasta. there is zero fat, that is carb food. not donut or pizza
>ONLY EAT CARBS>ONLY EAT PROTEIN>ONLY EAT FATSI am convinced y'all are just shit posters who are bored and have nothing going on in your lives. It is okay to eat all three, like some sorta balance or something.
>>77302767Medicaid nigga
>>77302771Okay lemme down a fuckload of pasta like my Italian ancestors would want me to
>>77302133Question for anyone who 'made it' or is close-to; when does the stomach fat reduce to the point of abs? I'm 6ft, 93kg right now - want to cut down to about 80kg or so. Still have a bit of a belly, waist is I believe 98cm at the moment (measurement across bellybutton section of stomach).Can I reasonably(ish) expect to have a more flat stomach as I approach that 80kg point? Have been lifting for years, Current bf% is around 20%~23%.
I guess I forgot or maybe I just never knew how high calorie rice is. The initial portion i put in my bowl was nearly 500 calories. I love rice. I took it all away. Gave myself 108g instead. Much more reasonable. Adding my protein and extras I still enjoyed my meal but wow. I'm still shocked.
>>77302767what shithole state do you live in that doesn't have basic healthcare covered if you live in poverty
i WILL lose weighti WILL get a gfi WILL destroy my enemiesi WILL make it
>>77302843You aren't going to be a calorie deficit if you are eating people anon...
Did ketoschizo really stopping spreading his lies?
5'10'' and currently at 174 lb and wanting to cut down to a very slender fat free look, probably 12%. I can't decide if that's at 160 or 155. Any 5'10'' chads ITT that can comment? Thanks
>>77302868u dont belong here
>>77302868You should learn to change your writting style if you plan to spam what's basically the same post again and again.,
>carbtards: lethargic? depressed? blackpilled? YOU NEED TO EAT MORE SUGAR!!!you're addicts, just admit it
>>77302843WITNESS ME CROM!I WILL CRUSH MY ENEMIESI WILL SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE MEI WILL HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THEIR WOMEN
>>77302789Protein is for lifting, which you should be doing. You need some carbs for worthwhile exercise. Fat is the leftover filler, it helps with satiety but that shouldn't be your primary concern. If you're hungry just deal with it.
>>77300341>>77300381So I went for a leisurely walk with the dog, the idea was to stay around zone 1, not push myself, just chill, then when I got home I sat down to "rest" but as I was sitting there watching anime and playing vidya that voice in my head was like "hey, you know what'd be perfect right about now? if you ate a whole bunch of calories." so I pulled out the bike and started peddling anyway, but instead of trying to hit zone 2 I just stayed in zone 1. I find it hard to fully rest, because when I rest I get hungry and being active, even if its low intensity is a way to keep myself occupied and from stuffing my face or thinking about food.
>>77302891i admit it, now what?
>>77302945Do the opposite, whatever your natural inclination is do the opposite.If your gut tells you to do A always do B instead.Don't fuck around on your phone/computer for 12+ hours everyday, exercise regularly, eat a healthy diet, don't engage with social media, get 8h of high quality sleep.
>>77302950hmmm just turn my whole life upside down?sounds easy enough... NOT
>had my first dose of wegovy on fridaythis shit is actually magical.
Guys how do I make myself exercise and eat properly, after a very long gap of not exercising and dieting?I make commitments to start everyday, but the inertia is keeping me from actually starting. I've gotten so used to stuffing my face like a pig, I can't eat normal amount of food. I've gotten so used to lazing around, I can't bring myself to do physical activity. Also, unrelated but this summer's been so hot that every day I wake up sapped of energy and too exhausted to start exercising. I used to be full of energy in the past when I worked out in the morning.
>>77302957Look bro, following your gut thus far has turned you into a disgustingly lazy, fat, depressed loser. Every choice you've made has been the wrong one, that means you've actually got a great compass for telling yourself how to live a good life, its just inverted, so you can only stand to improve your life by doing the opposite of whatever your gut tells you.
Just hit 209 pounds down from 295 pounds 15 months ago. Im 5 foot 10 inches. I feel and look a lot better but still fat. My goal weight is 175. Based on your guys experience, the stomach and love handles are last yeah? Im presentable in a shirt at least and I am about to descend to overweight territory on the bmi scale. I am sure ill have some loose skin but I heard it firms up after like a year post weight loss? Excuse my dirty mirror
Fatty contest SylveonXGlaceon 315.0 lbs
>>77302977You just start. The more you think about something, the more you won't do it. Legit just say no to the trash in your house and throw it out before you go pick up some healthy stuff to cook. Don't give your brain a chance to come up with excuses. Don't reason with it, don't bargain with it, just tell it to fuck off.
>>77302977Start with the diet first. Then exercise a little. Then when you get comfortable with that do more. And repeat. Getting the diet down first is the most important step
>>77302991This is why I don't want to lose weight, loose skin unironically looks worse than being fat and its like a roll of the dice if you end up looking like this or not.I'm not ashamed of going to the beach with my shirt off as a fatty but, I would be if I looked like that. Yuck.
>>77303008Most all of that is just fat though
Hospira Bac water has now been removed from practically every website. All you have is knock offs. FDA cracking down hard. This happened past few daysAll the places I would buy it don't have it now.
>>77302991For some people it doesn't tighten up, those people can go to their doctor for the rashes, definitely being caused by the extra skin, to get meds that don't work. Insurance will probably cover the cost of surgery at that point.
How severe would muscle loss be if i diet without watching protein actually?Currently, i'm a 24%bf somewhat of a skinnyfat with a belly which is the main target i want to get rid off but i've been casually lifting for a long time and have *some* amount of muscle definitionLike i've been told that i look fit, have good bicep and whatnot on tight shirt, i wouldn't straight up become a skeleton or anything just from having reduced protein intake right?
42 days in and over 11 kg lost. Keep rolling rolling rolling
>>77302919my brother in barbarism
>>77302933there is no such thing as essential carbs but there are essential fatty acidshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_fatty_acid
Fatty ContestBenceJones128.6kgRFL when hungover was a bitch
TIL that Vitamin D deficiency is correlated to shitty eating habits.>Appetite disturbances were significantly associated with increased odds of Vitamin D deficiency, even after controlling for depression and other confounders. However, due to the cross-sectional design, causality cannot be inferred. Prospective studies are needed to clarify this association's directionality and underlying mechanisms.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1499404625002660make sure to supplement Vitamin D, /fat/bros.i'm starting ASAP and will report back if i notice improvements.
Met-Rx bars pretty good. I microwave them for about 30s and they get gooey and delicious. Tasty straight out the wrapper too. I usually have one for breakfast.
>>77303108>Anecdotal, but ever since I started doing yoga in the sun every morning and going for long walks in the evening, I’ve experienced all the usual vitD benefits, but now that you mention it food noise is less as well.
Just finished my 62 hour water fast, dropped from 71,2 kg (156,9lbs) to 69,9 kg (154lbs). Waist dropped from 89 cm to 87 cm
>>77303118How tall are you?
>>77302178protein shake of real men
>>77303118any women here?is this too much hair?how much hair is too much?
>>77303131173 cm (5'8)>>77303140I don't know what to tell you man. Doctor says it's not gyno but I guess I have to live with it forever. Even after losing 70lbs, it's still here.
>>77303144Chest hair is okay and hot.Shoulder/back hair is not.Underboob hair is weird.
>>77303144Sorry, wrong tag >>77303159
Fatty ContestKilldozer390.0 lbs6'1" 0.2 from losing five pounds but oh well
>>77303008That's subcutaneous fat that will go away.
>cut hard for 6 weeks>go on holidays>stuffed my face at open buffet for 5 days straight>came back>2 binge evenings to deal with post holiday blues>gut hurts, leanness fadesI guess I'll have to eat next to nothing today and keep some mild deficit over the next 2 weeks or so, even though I wanted to lean gain now
>>77302959good luck, anon!>>77302977start by maximizing protein. prep a bunch of chicken or (ground)beef and have them ready to eat and just eat them whenever you want to stuff your face.do some exercises at home such as planks variations. for me, doing planks with hands as far as i can reach while sucking in my gut is an extreme exercise.
gonna break my 48hr fast while i watch our guy's new vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xVPfD5eBYg
>>77303108don't sleep on Vitamin D, /fat/bros.>After using vit D supplementation for 6 weeks, WT (weight), WC (waist circumference), and body mass index (BMI) were decreased significantly and serum vit D increased significantly compared to control grouphttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6071442/>>77303114i like your anecdote
Quitting booze was a mistake. Sure no more junk calories but the pain is making even light exercise impossible
>>77303325what pain?
>>77303327Back and neck mostly, but also unnaturally tight/stiff foot arches
>>77303332lower back? see >>77297981>necksounds like weak neck muscles. do you train neck?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjiZaCJ6tCA>unnaturally tight/stiff foot archessounds like weak plantar muscles. do you do foot exercises?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoEIW4Y8MEo
>>77302995Wtf happened? Are you done spiraling?
>>77302147>16,000 steps a day very nice>with a weighted vestI don't get this meme, especially not for overweight people.When I go outside I usually wear a rucksack with a bunch of stuff anyway.
>>77303351I did exercise, then I stopped drinking and now walking up the stairs is a monumental task
>>77303370>I don't get this meme>I usually wear a rucksack with a bunch of stuff anyway
It's taken me more yoyoing and difficulty going from 175 to 165 than going from 220 to 180. I got to 170 then bounced back after I got sick for a few weeks to 180, back to 175 again now and plateauing. I guess my body has the fat cells ready to go or something? Is there anything you can take or do to make them go away?
>>77303375>now walking up the stairs is a monumental taskwhat exactly hurts when climbing stairs?
>>77303370>I don't get this memehttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41366-025-01795-5#author-information
>>77303456As a real scientist it always fucks me up that they run studies with 18 data points and then make claims from it.
>>77303477>As a real scientist
>>77303477As a real gangsta it always surprises me how you whiny bitches try to refute the laws of physics in order to be more gluttonous lazy pigs
Fatty Contest FairySchizo 223.8 lbs
rate my new diet
Today I eat normally.05/30: 79.3 kg05/31: 78.7 kg06/01: 77.9 kg
>>77303632>1800 caloriesi hope you're exercising hard or a real big boy
Fatasses, I need your advice. I'm actually making it and seeing real changes to my upper body shape. I looked in a mirror with my shirt off today, the first time in awhile, and was confused at what I was looking at for several seconds because I roughly look "rectangular" now instead of "blob." I'm still fat, but the difference is really apparent. This is the first time since starting losing weight a year ago where this happened.Here's the issue though, and it's a bitchmode issue, but I just feel like a fraud, like I should still be looking like a fatfuck Kirby instead. It's not that my body shape now looks bad, just that it doesn't look like "me." I'm ambivalent about it, happy and proud that my hard work paid off, unhappy too for no good reason.What do I do and why am I like this? I thought I'd be pretty elated here and now I'm whining about the results I wanted the entire time and finally got. wtf
>>77303642Post body
My plateau is over, 160 soon.
>>77303658Also I didn't lose any weight for like a week before this, was annoying.
>>77303642maybe stare at yourself long enough to accept the new (you)?
6'3"Started the year at 275 pounds 39% Body fatCurrently 239 pounds 33% body fatTarget 195 pounds 15% body fat.Will I make it anons? Or am I losing weight to fast?
>>77303773Not fast enough pussy
>>77303357I will try to not backslide further but I make no promises. I feel like I'm so close to a mental breakthrough and once I'm there the world opens up to me.I know that sounds cliche. Back to fasting as usual. I'll weigh myself every week even if it's bad and I know it will be bad. Also need to do some drawing and coding and walking. Just anything to pass the time I'm not spending eating.
>>77303779>Back to fastinglmao you are never going to learn are you
>I feel like I'm so close to a mental breakthrough and once I'm there the world opens up to me.This is what an insane person looks like anons
>>77303779do you proteinmaxx?
>>77303788He's fatmaxxing instead
One more piss and I am dropping below 190lbs
Fuuuuark brah. Broke my fast with some chicken+pork+bell peppers+onions+chicken stock rice. Shit was so good mane. Am down 14lbs so far. Let's fucking go. I'll never stop
>>77303788i try to eat some meat every day if I'm eating, i don't feel like I'm anywhere close to low protein consumption being an issue. i mostly eat chicken and pork but there's some beef there as well. i just eat way too many carbs.
>>77303805>some meati feel you're not eating enough. even a manlet like me has to eat a whole chicken daily to barely reach 1 gram per lean weight in pounds.you might need to eat 3-4 whole chickens.
>>77303816>manlet like meI'm 5'9'' you're probably taller than mebesides this entire board vastly overestimates how much protein you really need, probably because a lot of them are frauded out of their minds and would be wasting all the drugs they spent their time and money (and future lifespan) on if they didn't fuel their body to properly use them. but for a guy like me? the biggest exercise i do is walking for a few hours while i doomscroll on my phone? i don't need to proteinmax. it would do nothing for me.
>>77303850>you're probably taller than mei'm not.>besides this entire board vastly overestimates how much protein you really needprotein is satiating and has the highest thermic effect (the body has to spend calories to digest it). the more protein you eat, the less of the other stuff you'll be eating.you don't "need" that much protein for your body per se but you need it to help you cut.
Fatty ContestBetterNateThanLever195.9 lbs
We should make a tagmap for /fat/
>>77302618Keto doesn’t work…
Just hit below 80kg for the first time and snapped a couple pics.Left is around 105kg in May 2024.Right is now at 79.6kg.I'm 180cm tall.My heaviest was 120kg and I stayed mostly around 110-115kg when I was a fat shit. Sadly I don't have pictures at my worst (fellow fatties understand the feel).I screwed up because I only got back into lifting last month after being on and off it since early 2025. I could be looking sick rn if I wasn't so lazy.I need more muscle (specially chest, my worst area), and need to lose some belly fat and the love handles, but I'm very happy with what I've achieved so far. I'm surprised I don't have much loose skin since I've been fat since childhood and this is my first time every at normal weight.Btw this was achieved with CICO and eating plenty of carbs. Get fucked ketoschizo you fucking loser.
>>77303925Good work>some belly far and love handlesSame. It’s so stubborn
>>77303925great work!>antagonizing thd ketoschizomay G_d have mercy on your soul
How many times can you have a cheat day that it doesn't drastically interfere with your weight loss ? once a week or once a month?
>>77303958once a month. barely.
>>77303958Define cheat day
i started taking psyllium husk and starting downing more diet soda.I'm so fucking full, i cannot eat anymore, i ate around 1200 calories today and I don't wanna eat anymore, even if i tried. (3 protein shakes + 20 mcnnuggets + handfull of fries)
>>77303925great job anon, keep it up
>>77303958Read the OP. It's in every general.>DON'T "Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.If by "cheat day" you mean eating slop you enjoy every once in a while while keeping calories at maintenance or below; fine.If it means mindlessly binging like a pig as a "reward"; never do that.
i slurped 2 bowls of my bowel moving sloppa today. i hope my bowels would move by tomorrow.
Fatty ContestTonerBitch198.2lbsSo I’ve officially sunk about 5mo into losing weight… and I’m down a total of 5.2lbs. Honestly not too miffed about it. Started treating my apparently, at the time, still-raging bulimia. They support me losing weight for my general health (otherwise I would’ve gone somewhere else lol), but encouraged me to focus on non-scale victories. My main goal was to get stronger and better for my family. I have a little girl and she definitely should not grow up with a mommy who runs to the bathroom after dinner and punches herself in the stomach until she cries. DD was too young to go to the bathroom herself. But she’s there now and I’m glad I’m past that part. I don’t know what I’d do if she walked in. Aside from that, I’m feeling much stronger physically. I’m finally able to carry my son again. He’s only 4, he should still be able to have mommy hold him when he needs it. He’s also said he hopes I “stay a fun mommy” (:’]), since we’ve been walking to the park almost every day, and I’ve been teaching him how to fish. He’s obsessed with bluegill cause I showed him some “bluegigi” memes.It’s pretty neat being able to swim with my kids as long as they want and be 100% sure I can rescue them and (stay above water for the both of us) if they get too far out. Once upon a time I was training to be a Surf Lifesaver… oh how far I have fallen. Ain’t no surf around here, but I think I’ll try and get certified for lifeguarding before summer’s over. Oh… I finally feel cute in a swimsuit too. Hang in there anons, it’s worth it for those around you too.
>>77303779>>77303805>>77303850You should be bullied into submission, but...You clearly have ADHD, plus you're mentally retarded (stupid). This isn't a conspiracy theory.You clearly aren't using the tools you could be using. You're making excuses and propably don't even want to un-fat yourself.If you do, then please read this and take it to heart.Stop trying to find magic silver bullets. You've gotten yourself into the mess you're in. Good news? You can get yourself out.Start by eating just one week at maintenance calories minus 300. Make sure you're getting enough protein (sticky). Weigh everything you ultimately put in your mouth. No candy, soda, slop of any kind. Just one week. If you can, prepare the food yourself.
>>77303958>How many times can you have a cheat day that it doesn't drastically interfere with your weight loss ? once a week or once a month?Basicly what >>77304040 said.The key is to find consistency and balance. The less you eat "cheat meals" the faster you get to your goals. The psychological side is: you do need diet breaks. Those can be done smartly so you don't spiral. Your body will propably need a carb refeed every now and then (if you train heavy). Instead of ordering food or going to a slop-palace you can cook the "cheat meal" yourself. Not only will it be more rewarding it'll taste better you know exactly what's in it.
>>77304008eating junkfood and drinking multiple cans of soda
>>77304076You can drink as many cans of soda as you like as long as they're zero calories.
I have nay squateth upon the porcelain throne in 5 days and 5 nights
>>77304084See your GP and get some miralax. If it gets to 7, ask them for Linzess. You’ll clear out.
>>77304084I envy your gastrobowel gains
>go on mountain hike yesterday>OMAD>weigh self today after shitting>gained weightShould I be worried? I don't record calories but I'm conscious of how many I'm eating.
>>77304157>Should I be worried?No. You (propably) had an extra streinous day, so your body stored more energy and water on your muscles expecting it to be a new normal. It's called body adaptation.
>>77304162Thanks that's what I was thinking
>>77304059proteinmaxx. 200g.
how am i supposed to figure out how many cals in KFC when the nutritional info is listed per bucket and there are different sized / different cuts of meat aaaaaaaah>inb4 kfc bad
198.4lbs
>>77304237eat the whole bucket. otherwise, weigh everything in the bucket divide the total calories per gram then weigh everything you eat.
>>77304237Lets estimate 8000 kcals. There ya go, 600lb buddy.
>>77303925Very nice
>>77304248I'd also have to weigh all the bones and shit that everyone eats too then wouldn't I? aaaah fuck it i guess im having fucking chicken and broccoli again.>>77304249cheeky. im a 210lb fatty ackshually
>>77304237>I sucked fifty dicks off Grindr and I got aids what the fuck do I do>Inb4 aids bad
>>77304235Already on it :) been finding all sorts of ways to sneak in protein and I actually end up a lil over 200g most days
>>77304237Are (You) fatmaxxing?
>>77304378you know you can eat fast food and keep it within a deficit and lose weight, right?
>>77303925Very good!
>>77304381>goymaxxing
Do you ever go over your caloric limit?
Vodka pasta minus vodka cause I stopped keeping liquor in the house.Hubby picked up some “protein pasta” for me and I don’t have the heart to tell him it’s a scam…I do feel very loved right now tho, it’s pretty tasty and I can’t even tell that it’s a marketing ploy. Not pictured: some herbal tea with added collagen peptides. Also a marketing ploy but my hair is healthier than it ever has been. Probably cause I started eating real food instead, but shhhh don’t tell my tea that
>>77304401Ya just do a little extra math the next day ur fine if you remember how to count.
>>77304406you're supposed to go down the street not across the road
>>77304406that amount of pasta alone should be way above 500 calories though? what is going on here??
>>77304406Why are you standing like a duck
>>77304426I was 13 when that happened. Currently studying for my DPT so I do know ball now, kek
>>77304431I measured, it’s about 3oz raw weight which is about 285cal if the label is to be trusted. I use small plates and spread stuff out to pretend I’m eating a huge portion. The sauce is just tomato paste, pasta water, and 2tbsp heavy cream (also measured). Plus salt and seasoning. Chicken is about 1 cup of the frozen grilled store brand. I don’t worry as much about calories anymore because I’ve actually started moving, and turns out I love keeping up with my (very) active children all day. My main goal is to get stronger cause I have PMOS (a metabolic disease, formerly PCOS) and the “true” skinny I used to chase almost killed me in the past.
22 workouts to go till goal
>>77304401Sure. I try to do it every week. I also lift 6.5 times a week plus other activities.
>>77304440Idk autism or some shit, makes my feet happy to stand funny.
>>77304453Interested on how to lift only half a time ƪ(ړײ)ƪ
After 20 years of sucking my belly in I think I've conditioned my body to automatically do it, I don't even realise i'm doing it and I'm not even that fat anymore
I have to have a BMI of like 18 to fully get rid of this fucking potbelly. Strong goblin genetics.
>>77304510Deep core exercises such as some forms of Pilates and Vinayasa. Strengthens the TVA which provides core stability and constriction. You’ll want to visit an in-person class a few times if you can afford it. The live form corrections are priceless and make or break the entire exercise.Anecdotally, my posture (swayback) improved significantly as well as related pain and mobility issues.
>>77304510If you can’t afford in person classes tho, or just aren’t ready (it was intimidating to me too and I worked alone for a year)… I love this entire playlist and have done pretty much every single exercise at least once. She gives great cues. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7YpEPrqQ3XTQb4OmQWBxcIaTGHz8Rx9A&si=_Jy5MrjUw2O-X8OK
>>77304477It's when you go lifting, but stay at home. Or go home, but stay lifting. In reality it comes from lifting 13 times in 14 days.
how many in here are virgins?
>>77304542I see. Pretty much all my lifting is done at home, so I guess I’ve been doing half-time the whole time, heh. I guess my average is also 6.5 if I account for my rest day.
>>77304478I’d be surprised if there’s a fat person who doesn’t do this out of habit. I def have this problem too
>>77304546I found a new gear 3 months ago, switched from PPLPPLx to the streaks I'm running now. Gym for me is a must for the versatility (plus natural testo boost from vegana-butts covered by scrunchy shorts with neon colors).
>>77304558Well “it ain’t stupid if it works” is my motto for a reason. I go to the gym to spend 1.5 hours on the stairmaster once a week and every time I’m reminded of why I despise going…y’all be lookin at any and all butts, for reasons you have now just articulated lmao.
>>77304568wait, there's a server full of them?
>blood pressure 160/100
>>77304585Yeah, several.It’s not uncommon for me to end up leaving a fandom server because it turned out to be deemed spawning ground and #1 fishing spot for bpd e-waifu. I’m only Bipolar-1… I have SOME decorum, kek
>>77304595thank you kind sir i am going to tear through those servers like the walrus in alice in wonderland
>>77304568>y’all be lookin at any and all buttsTis just natural, hormones and whatnot. A nice synergy for the ultimate flow state is a flirty dance with a grill. Instincts climax, steel gets flight.
>>77304602Just be an ethical fisherman, anon. >>77304603Didn’t say it was unnatural... but my discomfort is natural as well. Although I can agree I’ve never felt more at home a and secure in my sexuality than when I go 2 da Klerb™, may or may not be candy flipping, and they spin whatever generic “Push-Up” mix the DJ has on deck. Usually I find a group of fellow ladies and every once in a while one of you manages to work his way into the circle. Reminds me of bird behavior in the best way.
Keep straining my lower back every session for like 3 weeks. Fucking annoying. Continuing to change lifts to remove all that put pressure on lower back and going to stop doing deep stretching pre lifting I am not going to take time off. I am going to work thru this
>>77302991Yeah, belly and love handles come off last unfortunately. There is a point that it looks really jarring when you get near your goal and look like a normal skinny person except in the belly. That only happens when you are getting close to your goal though, and it will pass pretty quickly if you keep up the weight loss. Skin elasticity is a toss up, depends on genetics mostly. Some people lose 100+ pounds with no problems, some get loose skin after 50 pounds. There were reports of skin tightening up to a year after the weight loss. You can also try building you back muscles up, as that will accommodate some of the loose skin. Lats especially can be built huge.
>>77304478this is the correct posture. you're doing nothing wrong.>>77304550some don't>problemthis is no problem
>>77304617sorry fren i must feed
>>77304426No bully faggot. Be kind.
>>77302991209 is still fat bro. Don't worry, at your height once you hit like 180 is when changes are dramatic. You'll see your face change every day almost, it's crazy.
So let me get this straight, if I eat fewer calories than I burn, even if they are all made of sugar and fat, I will lose weight?
>>77304758Yes. There's a but, tho. If you don't do resistance training and devour protons you'll lose muscle instead of fat.
>had the highest caloric intake yesterday in 57 days>wake up today>plateau finally broke >down by 2.6 lbsy a y !! wish u all the best of luck today
>>77304770Is walking and mountain climbers good exercises to start? I'm not that fat, I'm 156 lbs but it's enough to have developed some belly and face fat
>>77304713As long as you’re being a good and respectful person, I generally don’t have a problem sharing a space with a man. The ones who end up in the same circle I’m in are usually either gay, genuinely nice, or get pushed out immediately. The clubs I frequent have very strong community vibes among female patrons, so it usually works out in the end :) just don’t be shitty and you’re more often than not, welcome to dance.
>>77302453>the best non-fasting wayFollow the 1 mento a day diet.
>>77304796Sometimes I wonder how many of you would’ve been moots or oomfs on 2012 EDblr, kek
>>77304784Sure. Aim for 40-80 minutes of walk in heart rate zone 2 daily, preferably in a fasted state. For resistance training you can do bodyweight things like push-ups, pull-ups (or chin-ups), squats etc. calisthenics.
>>77303783>He's getting bigger than the WhaleOh no no no no
>>77304787You might've answered the wrong anon. I'm the dance anon.I can generally get inside any circle I want to. And my personality's oddities don't end there, I've never chased women. And never will. My dance can happen anywhere. It can happen at the gyn floor with a special someone, we move from machine to machine, enter each others' zone, do a walk-by with a perioheral glance, move further away to watch from afar only to close down again. Spur of the moment, instinctual, authentic. Like living mandala with no promise of permanence, only an inhale and an exhale.
>>77304805
>>77303783dats prolly ketoschizo
>>77302729>>77302732Im 5'5"
I have been feeling a little less sleepy than usual. Having that creeping hunger gets me more focused and energetic? Am I just manic again or is that supposed to be a thing.
>>77304846Could be fatigue combined with endurance.
I just used the tdee calculator in the OP and it’s telling to eat 1300 calories a day for 1lb of fat loss a week. I’m 6’2 205 lbs. that can’t be right?
>>77304824
>>77304862>1m old postpost body with recent timestamp
>>77304869Do you really want to see the operation scars and moobs that are hiding under the shirt?
I was doing well for a few months, from last November to this April, I was doing good, sober, eating below my TDEE, exercising. Then at some point, I completely collapsed mentally, I felt exhausted physically and all my horrible habits came rushing back, back to alcohol, back to delivery, barely going out. I won't blogpost about my emotional state but how do I get that energy back that I had before that made me want to get healthy?
>77302295All the replies chains following this are samefagged or from newfags. This is reddit-tier bait.
>>77304869>>1m old postanon... that's over 4 years old https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/66792923/
>>77304960tell me when you find out. i can't hold a diet for longer than 5 days anymore even if i went with a slight deficit of 300 calories.although the one thing i could not try is maximizing protein.
>>77304960Perhaps micronutrient deficiency. Mabey review you diet real carefully?
God the gym makes me tried as fuck on my diet. That's all just complaining
>>77305034
>>>>>>>>twitter
currently 265, 28M, want to get my life in order before I turn 30, should I focus on getting my diet in order and weight down and then add the gym on afterwards, or just do it all at once? part of me worries if I try to do it all at once suddenly i'll rubberband back to bad habits
>>77305034says the spic bastard as he shoves the seventh plate of beans down his asshole
>>77305043You're absolutely right, so I'd suggest you focus on the single most detrimental thing then work down in priority from thereSo if you're alcoholic, start there, if you're a fiend for delivery, start thereFocus entirely on removing and replacing one bad behaviour with something else and you should be fineThis will be really really hard though, try not to hate yourself if you fail, just keep at it
>>77305043All at once. Start small bitesize in all three fronts, diet, movement and lifting. The most heard of remorse here is "I wish I had started lifting sooner" since it takes longer than losing the fat, and can have a synergic effect.
>>77305048seething
>>77305057>i lost 30lb>without dieting, medication or excercise>... but with dieting
>>77305059>twitter user is dishonestThis must be the first time in history this has happened
>>77305034This dude is getting chunky!!!>>77305057 2/10. He has had so many bad takes on food and his doordash addiction and thats all you could come up with?
>>77305066he's reformed and skinny now
>>77305069'za is good
>>77304858Sounds about right to me. That's a difficult goal though. An easier goal would be to accept a range of a 1/2lb to 1lb fat loss per week. That way you can eat 1300-1800 calories each day depending on how you feel, which is much more sustainable. Add some exercise in there and you'll be losing 1lb per week even at 1800 calories a day.
>>77304862If it isn't the fiverr liar.
>>77305057Wait, this is what they call White in the US?
why do people say walking doesn't help you lose weight? all i do is walk for an hour a day and i lost 7kgs in a month. maybe i'm just genetically superior
>>77305093>eat keto>look like a paid modelSounds good.
>>77305131It's just a new trendy fad bullshit. Those types of things come like waves on the shore.
>>77305131It's just a new trendy fad bullshit. Those types of things come like me inside your mum
>>77305034This guy eats male cum
>>77305052>>77305055two completely opposite responses back to back...
Fatty Contest Fatwicker209.6 lbsOfficially crossed over the 70 pound lost mark. 4.6 lbs left to goal. No idea what bodyfat%, I already know the navy method isnt accurate enough to say for sure. I still have a small belly left over with some minimal loose skin. WAGMI anons.
>>77305134>look like a paid modelDude, you're ugly as fuck and basically a cripple. To make yourself look a couple decade older is not really a good thing.
>>77305134Isn't this the picture where the chin format completely changed? Based liar.
>>77305131People saying this are usually shilling for some shitty diet or exercise. They hate the fact you can lose weight healthily by simply walking.
>>77305155You can always use image comparsions.
>>77305152No. It's the same. I said start all three (complete lifestyle change), but small. He said start small as well, but do one at a time. This ties down to your own personal situation and capabilities.If you think those are opposites maybe you need a few years of alcoholism and delivery food to clear your mind.
>>77305152You're being dense.
Fatty Contesthopstepjump!209lb
>>77305167Grok says:**No, these are not the same person.**Here's a quick breakdown:### Key Differences:- **Face / Jawline**: The man in the first photo (black t-shirt) has a fuller face, different jaw structure, and a thicker neck/beard area compared to the shirtless man.- **Body Composition**: - First guy has decent arm size but carries more body fat overall (especially around the midsection under the shirt). - Second guy (shirtless) is significantly leaner with visible abs, more pronounced muscle separation, and a different shoulder/chest structure.- **Skin Tone & Lighting**: Different lighting and skin appearance.- **Overall Build**: They have somewhat similar muscular potential, but they are clearly two different individuals.This is a common format on forums like 4chan (one "before" or "average" pic vs a leaner "after" or different person), but they are **not the same person**.The second guy is noticeably leaner and more defined.
>go on vacation for a week>still eat clean, low cals>have a few rum and cokes each eveninggained 3 lbs
>quit eating carbs>look so good you must be photoshopped>look so good you must be a paid model>look so good you must be multiple good looking guysFeels good man.
>>77305211stop drinking the carbonated jew
>>77305213Dude, you don't look good, the guy in the video from half a decade ago looks good, you look as if you took tren or a lot of ephedrine and aged fast, but somehow is still weak.
>>77305211It do be like that
>on keto you literally become another person, or three other people
>>77305223I really don't get why this fucker is so invested in shilling this diet.
I don't get why people are so invested in shilling CICO.
>>77305224I've been wondering the whole "misery loves company" aspect of it. He hates fat people and himself. He didn't have the balls to go shoot up in a school and an hero himself, so he does this silly larp with constant lies, talking of himself in a 3rd person, self-replying etc. Personality disorder, incapable and loss of control. Just how fat and sad he is actually...
Do those AI calorie estimators really work?
>count your calories goyim>weight loss?>no, i'm a sugar merchant
>>77305230Yes, but doing it by hand helps a lot of discipline and motivation.
>>77305227I'll bet on genuine mental illness and having made /fat/, and /fit/ to a lesser extend, the only place he can kinda of socialize.
I think there is def some truth to the "body adaptation to being a former fatty" thing. I played tennis with my buddy and my watch (both apple watches) estimated I did 300 calories of exercise, while his said 800. My heart rate barely went above 120 and he was up in 160 and we were running about the same.
>>77305246Yes, indeed. The constant need for validation, shilling bigger men... He might unironically be /b/'s logposter.
>>77305248I really don't think being obese makes your body x3 more efficient doing exercises.
>>77305226>>77305234kys
>>77305273I can't think of another explanation. I used to be a 220lb lardball but now I'm a 170lb lardball and I feel like my metabolism has slowed to a crawl.
>>77305281The amount of muscles is extremely important to determine how much calories you'll consume during exercises.
>>77304805I know you’re the dance anon, fren :) Keep dancing.
>>77305281Metabolism slows down if you do CICO.You can boost metabolism with carb avoidance.
>>77305323Again fake "study" by a full time ketoshill that has been condemned by peers? Get new lies.
>>77302938Lifted today, after that I was exhausted and passed out, woke up well into the afternoon ~10 hours later sore all over, went for a walk, then did my bike, today's 999 was rough at first but after the first hour I got like a second wind and suddenly it was easy again, finished in zone 2 feeling fine.
>>77305387Cute
Boutta be done with my ninth consecutive fast. Let's fucking go
>>77305213I’m crineee is this what moids think looks good?? You look deflated and tired. Go have an Erewhon cinnamon roll and cup of tea (WITH honey) in the bath.
>>77305394Its been telling me that work weeks now, I wonder how long before it just accepts my daily 999 as my usual training volume.
>>77305438Tranny hand
>>77305446Brain is undoubtedly rotting from the lack of carbohydrates if that’s the best you’ve got.
>>77305438he looks fine u weird bitch
>>77305453Interesting.
>>77305449Not wasting energy on a tranny sorry better luck tomorrow
>>77305461You’d have more of that if you were in a bath with a cuppa and a cinni rn. I know cause I’m checking :3
>>77305457
>>77305480Image hard as fuck lowkey
>>77305438Post feet so we can see the progress of the fat loss there
>>77305528Scroll up a bit.
>>77305536We need the soles as well to get the full progress picture
>>77302133how do i start doing resistance training, i get bored really fast, every-time i try i quit like 10 minutes in
>>77302977Don't think and just do. Be consistent and accept discomfort. That's it.
>>77305601Figure out a routine and actually complete it.
>>77305601I used to be the same, get any decent cheapo waterproof earbud and do music, changed it completely for meIf it's not your thing i dunno, read a book, watch a movie between sets or something
>>77305601What kind of equipment do you have access to, have you ever done any sort of strength training before, what goals do you have in mind?
>>77305601I work out in my living room with my brother while we watch movies/tv/anime or random shit on youtube, whatever, the important part is having another person to lift with, transforms lifting from this annoying self punishment into hanging out with your bro.Working out alone is boring af, I have no idea how anyone does that shit.
700g to go until im no longer obese bros. super happy. zero keto
how do i make chicken ????
>>77305724https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SquSm5igK7g
>>77305728> dies from insanity trying to make a tasty meal instead of something causing suicidal ideationsstep bro... I'm so hungry... pls cook for me :x
>>77305742I guess I am just going to eat this bean powder meal replacement shit I found. It has all the macros, but it is bean paste when you mix it.
>>77302991The anger I feel is real. I'm currently 5'9" at 252lbs. I've been as high as 287lbs, and as low as 180lbs. I think I could actually kill if it meant I was at 180lbs again. Depression and getting fired over a lying bitch does that to a guy.Trying to get there again.
>>77305767>getting fired over a lying bitch damn what'd you do to her for her to do that to you
>>77305752>bean powdernot a complete protein, aka doesn't countnon-animal proteins are fake/incomplete and shouldn't be counted towards your protein goals
>>77305323You boost metabolism by building muscle since it is literally the energy needed for your muscle cells to operate. Of course a bunch of fat ass adults lost muscle mass over the course of 9 years, everyone does that isn't working out.
>>77305034We have a video of this guy getting his dick sucked by destiny. He doesn't get an opinion.
do you know any skinny fat vloggers?I just walked for 40 minutes and it feels like I did an intense 2 hour full body work out (back when I was a teenager I used to lift, before sitting at the desk all day and night.)
>>77305837>>77305837>>77305837>>77305837
>>77302133I need some reassurrance here even though I "know" that it can be explained fairly easily.But I've been on a 1300kcal deficit (incl. aroun 150g protein) for 3 weeks now, eating virtually the same meal each day and a week ago I've started resistance training and sipping on some pre-workout that also contains 3g creatine. At the same time, my weight loss has been tweaking tf out. Can I safely assume this is just water retention in muscles and whatnot and once a heavier "baseline" is established it'll be back to continuous loss?
>>77305844if you're really being honest with yourself and the number of calories and not just eyeballing stuff then yeah its water/sodium and if you're working out you're presumably growing muscle too. Measure your waistline for proof you're losing weight don't rely on just the scale alone.
>>77305851I guess I can utilize a tape measure, I assume the waist change is something that can only be observed on a weekly basis? I know it's retarded to get hung up on some daily fluctuations. But with the added soreness and increased hunger from lifting it's a bit annoying. Trying to adapt the process-oriented thinking and just focus on the fact that I know what I'm doing is literally working."Being honest" is a given lmao
>>77305868yeah just as with the scale it will fluctuate based on water / how bloated you are etc. Best thing I find is to measure yourself in the morning after the toilet and before eating if you can. But if you're seeing a downward trend on the waistline then its working. I record the scale and the waistline and you should see a correlation too. Of course there's always noise in the data points too. Its the trend thats important. Keep at it man, you'll do fine.
>>77305915Thanks, I appreciate the answer. It's sometimes easier to have facts you know yourself repeated to you by someone else. Gonna be easier to identify downward trends after a few more weeks. No other alternative anyways lol
