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>Who is /fat/ for?
For hefty hamburglers who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq
https://f-droid.org/packages/fr.shiningcat.simplehiit/

Previous thread: >>77420099
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>>77420770
Started out today's 999 with 30mins in zone 2 then finished out my session in zone 1. My knees are feeling fine right now, but I'll see how they're feeling tomorrow. Maybe they've leveled up. Feeling pretty good right now.
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reminder: keto restores hairloss
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>>77422849
You mean causes
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Losing weight for me is easy, the hardest part is not being able to take a shit for a whole week, I’ve always had a slow stool cycle since I was a kid and being in a deficit makes it worse, even when I was stuffing my face on goyslop I’d only shit every 3-4 days, deficit ups it to 6-8 days, I really don’t wanna give myself stomach/gastric/colon problems. Have tried stuff like psyllium husk for more fiber but didn’t work.
Diet mostly consists of chicken, rice, broccoli, eggs, olive oil, sometimes bread or tapioca, the weight has been going down steadily but not being able to shit is the biggest problem.
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>>77422851
speaking as someone with the opposite problem i've learned to hone it as a cheatcode to losing weight and purging. every 2 weeks ill eat that one thing I know will destroy my insides and rapidly lose weight.
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Right on the nose fat boys
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I just ate a stick of butter
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I just at a pound of pasta with a stick of butter on the side
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I just stuck a butter
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I miss when uncle billy buttered my angus
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>Blue Bell Pro
>300 calories for a pint
>33g of protein
>tastes 95% as good as the OG (650-700 cals)
Whoever formulated this shit is a goddamn genius. Never eating the original stuff ever again.
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i think my plateau broke. firmly under 220, i didnt make any changes
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>>77422883
now look at the sugar
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>>77422851
>>77422857
I just drank two cups of broth and it just ran through my body and I had salty diarrhoea after 15 minutes.
I probably should've just kept to one cup.
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Bros how do I cope with near-involuntary isolation, I like solitude and prefer to be alone but goddamn it sucks to not have anyone to talk to anywhere besides this site, it's gotten to the point where I just lay on my bed or stare at a wall without doing anything the whole day
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>>77422894
play card games at locals
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>>77422894
one of the easiest thing is to just do some hobby and social thing like board games, magic the gathering, warhammer or something like that
otherwise other things like joining danse lessons like salsa or hiking groups or similar
it's also important to remember that a lot of peopel that are active on things like this are in the same situation as you and out to get friends and be among people
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>>77422835
Never eat carbs. Carbs cause permanent obesity.
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>>77422904
>>77422849
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>>77422904
Yeah thats why instead of losing weight you just post about keto on 4chan all day everyday.
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>>77422894
youll get used to it, am 28 now and i cope by looking at my abs in the mirror and seeing how good i look, or learning something new like java, and playin games
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>nooo stop eating the best possible fat loss diet
>you'll uh... um... go bald!
Lol.
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>>77422886
>0g added sugar
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what do you guys make for lunches
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>>77422916
I've been lean for a long time. Thanks for your concern.

You could be lean too if you stopped eating so much carb.
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>>77422931
Beef patties with cheese and sauerkraut. Get the highest fat beef patties possible. I buy 80/20 for convenience but if I could find frozen 70/30 patties I'd buy those.
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>>77422936
>>77422904
bro is hiding a bald head or is a dullahan hiding in plain sight on fitness forums
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>>77422940
bro is lean
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>>77422922
>>77422936
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>>77422943
yeah bro leans his hat when someone suspects his hair aint there
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>>77422950
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>>77422922
>just eat no carbs and calorie restrict for 8 years straight
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>>77422952
You're the 500lb guy in this pic, huh: >>77422904

Obviously your feelings are hurt pretty bad. Sorry that moxyte baited you into posting a pic of yourself.

I hope you figure out how to lose weight (hint: stop eating carbs).
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>>77422954
You lose weight pretty fast on low-carb. It boosts metabolism. It's like natural safe DNP.

+50kcal/day metabolic boost average per 10% carb reduction.

+500kcal/day for people with high insulin by going low-carb.
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>>77422955
do you think hes the only person here tired of your shtick?
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fatties seething at ketogods
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>>77422963
You realize that means that if you ate more than that 50-500 extra Calories per day, that you will not lose weight, right?
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>>77422851
drink some coffee lad
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>>77422974
No obviously moxyte is upset too but for different reasons. Moxyte doesn't like low-carb diets because he is a vegan and low-carb gets people eating more meat, eggs, and dairy.

That guy is upset because moxyte baited him into posting his hair, which he is obviously proud of, and now he is part of a physique comparison showing that he is extremely overweight and people who do keto are lean.
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>>77422979
Calories don't measure how fattening food is.

No matter how much protein you eat it can't cause obesity. Pic related.

>consuming a hypercaloric high protein diet does not result in an increase in body fat
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4022420/
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>>77422984
Why does ketoboy only use the people who hide their faces? I've never seen him use the few anons who show their face.
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>>77422984
>people who do keto are lean
People who do keto are fat and trying to lose weight. Why else would they want to do keto? People who diet in general are fat.
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>>77422990
There's all sorts of keto progress pics where people show their faces.

It is standard to anonymize your pictures in /fat/ where we post anonymously. So the /fat/ comparisons are mostly anonymous.
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>>77422994
People who do keto succeed because it is a biologically informed diet. People who do CICO fail because it is a sugar advertising hoax which ignores biology.

Low-carb is so dramatically superior that low-carb without counting calories beats calorie restriction with carbs in every head-to-head study. Pic related.
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>>77422995
That's fair, I was just wondering why none of the ones that seem to be anon comparisons use someone like the guy who posts his face frequently.
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>>77422955
person you're replying to isn't the one in the photo (me). Like I said prev thread, I don't give a shit about your CICO vs KETO argument I follow both to an extent. But you're being disingenuous with your picture there comparing a guy clearly done with his wl journey vs a person who just began. It's a slight annoyance I'll use as extra motivation so thanks I guess
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>>77422835
>mfw calculated that if i eat 1600 calories or less per day i will be 10% bf by the time i go to greece
bros.. my real life could begin soon..
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>>77422904
>big dude
>glorious mane and beard
>already lost 200 lbs
that's fucking crazy bro is going to be an absolute unit
very inspiring
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>>77423001
>go to greece
theres better ways to go about coming out of the closet
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>>77422997
I don't know who in particular you are referring to. If you link them I guess I can make a comparison.

I tend to post the ones I personally find funniest. Here's one with a guy that posted his face. He's a vegan.
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>>77422931
we have free lunch at my job so I mostly just eat that
nothing special, just toasted bread and eggs and stuff like that
right now I'm on vacation and usually skip breakfast and lunch and only eat one meal a day really, except right now while I'm fasting
my plan is keeping ketosis and eating stuff like wok, but I'll see how it goes
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>>77423004
I hope he posts a great physique photo in the future to prove me wrong, but all indications suggest he's not going to succeed at weight loss. Most weight loss attempts fail. And he is explicitly anti-keto which is the most successful weight loss diet.

But I guess CICO believers are desperate for a win so you have to pretend he already made it.
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>>77422989
The most fattening food you can eat is FAT. It is already in the state that your body stores it, requiring no energy to convert. You wouldn't expect protein to be converted into fat unless there was a deficit of fat in the diet.
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>>77422995
>8 years of strict dieting to lose weight
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>>77423010
Golly I wonder if they could just test the low-fat diet against low-carb diets and find out what macro is more fattening?

Oh look at that they already have. Dozens of times. Low-carb wins every study with significant results. See pic related.
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>>77422996
>Low-carb is so dramatically superior that low-carb without counting calories beats calorie restriction with carbs in every head-to-head study.
Only true if you eat fewer calories. Oeople on a low carb diet tend to eat fewer calories, and thus lose more weight.
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>>77423004
He's also not taking the bait from the schizo either. Everyone needs to do the same.
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>>77423004
appreciate the love. plan to keep the keep until I'm below 200 in the future
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>>77423015
Even when eating _more_ calories, low-carb beats low-fat. Pic related.

The mechanism is explained here: >>77422963

Low-carb boosts metabolism like natural DNP.
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>>77423005
>missing out on greece because "its gay"
ishygddt
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>>77423004
>Another bearded big guy making good progress
Nice, glad to see it.

Clocked in at 295 this morning - officially 5 pounds past my goal of 300lbs in time for the company outing.
It's next Thursday so I'm gonna see how close to 290 I can get before the eating and drinking stalls me for a few days.
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210lbs down from 400lbs. I want to hit 200lbs, easily under 30%bf and I am feeling myself exhausted on lifting as heavy as I am on a deficit. did 370lbs 5x8 on hack squat yesterday and 5x10 90LB DB bench today and im barely making it through. Is this too heavy while trying to drop the last 10 lbs?
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>>77423017
yeah desu i don't know why people keep responding to him
>>77423019
keep it up bro, you can do it!!
>>77423024
that's amazing!! hope you enjoy your company outing
rooting for u mr.boston
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>>77423019
>keep the keep
keep the beard* until under 200lb
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>>77423021
>both diets were calorie restricted
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>doing 3 day full body routine
>want to die every time i wake up to go to the gym
>swap to a 4 day UL split for a week
>actually don't feel any pushback waking up to go to the gym
maybe the problem was boredom with doing the same like 5 exercises over and over
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cico fatty hivemind activating
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>>77423027
Thanks, anon. I saw Hadestown this weekend with the ex that I'm repairing things with. I liked it a lot. There's probably an irony in seeing a musical about Orpheus and Eurydice with a woman I like.
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>>77423031
what's your UL split routine?
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>>77423030
>People in low carb group lost significantly more weight. This was especially true for the men, even though they ate more calories than the low fat group.
>even though they ate more calories than the low fat group.
>ate more calories than the low fat group

Calorietards are illiterate. Their brains are starved for ketones.
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Keto is fine, CICO is fine, people have lost weight and gotten in the best shape of their life doing both… why can’t we all just get along and discuss our WINS?

Lost 5lb so far and eating great foods. Happy with my diet plan and enjoying being autistic about counting calories, tracking weight loss and cooking great meals for my family. Also really been liking going for big walks and hitting my step goal. Today was my lowest it felt at only 14k steps but I also hit the beach twice today and swam a bit. Caught a beautiful sunset with my dad and my dogs. Not afraid to walk around shirtless anymore and I don’t even look that good!

We’re all gonna make it if we try!
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>>77423042
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>>77423034
it's very romantic and somewhat ironic i agree lol
also, yay! i'm really rooting for you two as long as it's the good healthy thing to do <3 wish u and her the best and cheering on your journey.
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>>77423046
looking good bro
>why do schizos schizo?
It's for attention, always. That's why it's always sensationalized and repetitive. Whatever gets them more (You)s = a win in the attention seeking addled minds of schizos.
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>>77423047
Keep reading buddy you'll get the the part that says:

>People in low carb group lost significantly more weight. This was especially true for the men, even though they ate more calories than the low fat group.

I believe in you. Even a grade school diverse person could read that far. It's not a novel.
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>>77423058
That doesn't disprove the fact that both diets were calorie restricted.
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>>77423058
>Even a grade school diverse person
so now we're being racist
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>>77423046
CICO causes obesity because it lies about the cause. People who try to use CICO to lose weight inevitably fail.

Keto cures obesity because it correctly identifies the cause. People who do keto have much higher success rates.

This is a weight loss thread not a social support group. Accurate information is important.
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>>77423061
Nobody said they weren't. That study was posted to demonstrate the low-carb group ate _more_ calories and had superior loss of body fat.

Pic related is a study comparing unlimited calorie low-carb against restricted calorie with carbs. As always low-carb wins. Amazing superiority. Even with unlimited calories low-carb dominates.
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>>77423064
It’s kinda both though… there is more than one way to skin a cat (trim the fat)!

Pointless arguing isn’t going to do anyone any favors. Every thread is just you two psycho babbling about shit that doesn’t fucking matter… do what some guy who weighs 30b tries eating less food for awhile and sees results? What if that same guy, after stalling for awhile, tries keto and loses even more weight?

This keto vs CICO war should just get its own thread at this point and stop shitting up this one. I wanna hear my fellow tubbos stories and their wins and losses, because both are gonna happen on this journey. All roads lead to Rome, you just gotta be on the journey!
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>>77423064
This. Anyone ignoring it at this point is lying to themselves
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>>77423067
You never actually post their diets. This is just CICO in disguise.
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>>77423067
>ate _more_ calories and had superior loss of body fat
In the short term, when maintaining a caloric deficit.

>>77423067
In this study, the people eating a "low carb diet" were also eating fewer calories than those on the "low fat diet". This reduction in calories explains the difference in weight loss.
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>>77423079
Pretty much everyone who does low-carb/keto first had the experience of trying CICO and having it not work. CICO traps you in obesity because it tricks you about what methods work.

If you give people a fake map they won't be able to arrive at their destination.

The cure for obesity is lowering insulin. The best way to lower insulin is reduce carbs, especially refined powdered carbs. Truth is important.
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i quit drinking and only shit like every few days now and its ruining my weigh ins. dropped a few logs and im 6 lbs lighter than yesterday
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>>77423086
>You never actually post their diets. This is just CICO in disguise.
technically all diets and weight loss are cico in diguise. you can't lose weight without a caloric deficit
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>>77423113
according to ketoschizo someone eating 10kcal keto calories a day will be leaner than someone eating 2k non-keto calories a day
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>>77423107
>The cure for obesity is lowering insulin
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>keto good/bad?
>cico good/bad?
>don't know which to choose? just do both
i did both at the same time and lost 40kg in a year whilst re-comping. meticulously counting my calories, meeting protein targets and limiting carbs. lifts improved week to week
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collectively as a thread we should get our A1C done just to shut the schizo up
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>>77423142
I'm fasting so technically I'm doing both as well. But I eat only keto when I break my fast, doing rolling fasts.
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>>77423142
real question: is whole milk good/bad?
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>>77423198
fine in moderation. if you're doing cico its all good but for keto just be careful because it still contains lactose which is sugar. i switched from milk to heavy cream
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>got off work at 4, had bible study at 6:30, came home after 9
>decided to stop and just grab something, couldn't be bothered cooking
>get a bag of burgers from my local braum's
>each 1/6th patty burger somehow has 390 calories in it
>could only eat two without totally fucking myself
God damn, fast food is so fucking jewish it's insane. Literally designed to cause obesity.
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all I can think about is downing some pastries with a hot chocolate glass of milk
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>>77423235
I'm on my 60th hour of fasting, and all I can think about is food. Thank god I'm going to bed soon.
Other than that, I feel perfectly fine. Haven't really felt faint or light headed or feeling like I'm going to faint this time around. My plan is pretty much continuing until I can't handle it.
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>>77423239
i wish i could sleep, its midnight here and my sleep schedule is all fucked up, i literally switched day to night, so its the whole night being hungry and chuggin on water, i should try some black coffee to see if it kills my hunger
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>>77423198
Its incredibly caloric. Pretty shit if your goal is weight loss.
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Fatty Contest
Matsubara
83.1kg
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>>77422083
You never changed the dose? For +1 year? That's really GOAT, kudos anon
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>>77423198
I have 1 or 2 cups a day personally but can be caloric so be mindful working it into your daily allotment.
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>>77423198
Just drink nonfat. It's extremely cheap and great protein for the calories. Still tastes good.
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Hello lads,

I constantly feel very very weak for years by now.
I also get something that feels like an adrenalin rush all throughout the day - so I feel some kind of tickling under my skin.
When I manage to go out and do sports I sweat so god damn much, that even at 30˚C outside I get cold, get a headache and feel even weaker for the next 2 days.

What could this be? Do I JUST have to power through? I am 187cm, 98kg. Been over 90 since I am 18 and I am 34 now.
Would be cute to get around 80, but I am just too stupid to do sports I guess.
I am a cyclist btw (gravel and MTB). I also have been depressed for 10+ years and my doc pretends I have ADHD, hence I take lisdexamphetamine

PS: When I sit on my bike it often feels good, but to not think too much I often just go from 0 to 11 in no time. I can do 120km no problem, but then I am ded for 2 days.
What do? I am not THAT desperate for weight loss. I rather want to feel good
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>>77423313
It's time to go TRT. Welcome to the club, anon.
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>>77423325
I don't have the upper three things.
I have a massive hair loss since I take amphetamine tho (could just be a correlation tho. Had hair loss before, feels like it's gotten worse, but could be age).
The only thing holding me back from sex is the fatigue, but i want sex
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>>77423337
PS: I will go to the doctor tomorrow and ask for an extended blood screening tho.

My personal suspicion is some kind of (pre)-diabetes. Since my sugar consumption and cravings, if I reduce it, are sometimes astronomical. Always consumed way too much sugar in my life
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I’m pretty sure I’m at my goal weight. Could probably lose another kilo but getting these last few centimeters off of my waist is pure torture. Today is my wife’s birthday and I’m pretty sure we are going to have some big dinner. Alcohol too. Not going to fight it since it’s her special day.

Trying to create some leeway with 2 hours of cycling and a couple hours of walking before it all goes down. Hitting maintenance or surplus in a day at this stage is so painful because that’s a whole day or two’s worth of effort down the drain
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Threadly reminder, that:
WAGMI
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>>77423345
You don't have to eat and drink a ton anon, enjoy yourself and the night but don't overindulge. Happy birthday to your wifey too!

You've got this, just continue a measured and lucid approach to things.
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I'm currently hovering around 240 at 6'4. My exercise has been limited the last month due to a bulging disc in my back. All I have is a diet and it sucks, I miss working out.
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>>77423426
Also the pain has been excruciating. Sitting, standing, laying, spasms that go from 7-10/10
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fatty contest
fatretard
181.8
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>>77422851
every person has an upper fiber limit they can tolerate. above it, it causes slower bowels movement.
many anons report fiber causing delayed shitting. in your goyslop days, were you consuming fiber such as coleslaw? have you ever tried removing fiber entirely?
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>>77423107
>The best way to lower insulin is reduce carbs, especially refined powdered carbs.
what about the poor fuckers that have a stronger insulin response to fat than to carbs? and the ones with insulin response to fucking protein?
different shit works for different people so when trying to lose weight, they should experiment and do what works.
>The majority of donors’ islets exhibited the highest insulin response to glucose, moderate response to amino acid, and minimal response to fatty acid. However, 9% of donors’ islets had amino acid responses, and 8% had fatty acid responses that were larger than their glucose-stimulated insulin responses.
https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fulltext/S1550-4131(24)00226-2
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>>77423483
This is kind of cool if true. A meaningful genetic factor to describe insulin response(!)
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>>77422887
How do you know it was salty? No. Actually. Never tell me.
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>>77423385
Thanks! Yeah just gotta remember it’s a continuous grind
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>>77423234
>bible study
>bag of burgers

America is a special place.
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>>77423426
>due to a bulging disc in my back.
you ARE seeing a physical therapist about it, right?
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>Down 10lbs in the past 5 weeks
>I will be continuing this diet until December to see any drastic changes in my body comp
fml
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>>77423506
You'll get used to it with time. Just getting back to a "normal" person and how much a normal person eats. Keep your chin up and keep active/working out. Hope u guys have a great time.
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>>77423467
On my goyslop days I was legit eating oatmeal with chocolate powder and I’d even throw coffee on top of it, then I’d drink a lot of milk with bread, cakes. Pasta on weekends, so yea I guess yes my fiber intake was higher but still even with all of that I wouldn’t be going to the bathroom often, like every once 3 days
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>>77423558
i'm saying that your upper fiber limit is pretty low and you should try eliminating it entirely and see if your bowel movement improves
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I will have tendies tomorrow, for I accumulated enough good boy points
^^

btw steps done for the day
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>>77423567
Don’t do it, it’s a snowball effect! One tendie doesn’t hurt you think, then when you realize you’ve eaten 10… 20… 30…
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>>77422835
today is the first time in almost 15 years that my inner thighs weren't rubbing against each other while walking
I feel completely alien honestly
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>>77423587
nice
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>>77423587
that's awesome anon, super proud of you
enjoy it, that's the result of your hard work
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>>77423590
>>77423615
thanks guys, it actually means a lot to read replies like these
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>>77423046
Its just people wanting to bandwagon or bring hate into a thread that was filled with encouragement.
For me, Keto would be too restrictive I can happily eat 1800kcals but I wouldn't enjoy eating 0 carbs.
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>>77423046
the smile of a winner
keep it up fren, looking good and looking happy
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>>77423113
CICO is not diet agnostic. CICO is the claim that the calorie measurement measures how fattening a food or meal is. That's why people who believe CICO estimate their calorie intake and track it in a diary.

CICO is false.
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>>77423198
Whole milk is better than skim milk. Lower carb dairy is better. Any cheese aged 6 months is zero carb. Cream is good. Butter is great.
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>>77423643
reminder that this ketoschizo will never post body with timestamp unless it's a 5+ year old low def. repost
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>feel lighter and smaller
>stomach is noticeably smaller
>stronger
>eating zero sweets or snacks only shit like yoghurt, rye bread, chicken breast and tomatoes
>every time i weigh myself scale goes up
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>>77422835
>this enrages ketoschizos
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>>77423650
working out makes muscles retain more water
if you're taking creatine that's more water retention
weight fluctuates a lot for various reasons the scale isn't always "truthful"
visual queues and how your clothes fit are a better tell for how you're progressing
wagmi
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>>77423652
>ultraprocessed slop
triggers me too
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>>77423649
Reminder that anti-keto posters are liars.

See: >>77422936

CICO is a lie. It's not a mistake it is a lie. They are consciously and deliberately lying.
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>>77423650
>rye bread
Low-fat doesn't work. Low-carb works.
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>>77423655
>Ingredients: Pasteurized skimmed milk, milk proteins, skimmed milk powder, and lactic ferments
how is this slop?
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>>77423652
It is okay to harm yourself if that is what you want to do.

If someone shares the knowledge that smoking causes lung cancer it doesn't mean they care if you choose to smoke. The are just sharing the truth.

Likewise when someone shares the knowledge that carbs cause obesity they don't care if you choose to be a fat carb eater. They just want you to know what you are choosing so you are not being tricked by carb merchants.

Have fun being a fat carb eater bro. I love carbs, too. I just don't eat them because I don't want to be fat like you.
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>Just went from 220lbs to 213lbs in 1 week
feelsgoodman.
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>>77422936
>>77231288
>post deleted
>refuses to post body pic with timestamp
>directs to low quality non-existent 5 year old reposts
you can end the discussion any time you want by taking your shirt off and taking a pic with a timestamp , yet you refuse
I bet you have nice firm puffy gyno nips
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>>77423668
FYI for all the mongs taking the schizo-keto bait, i did this eating 160-180g of carbs every day, also min 140g protein and 60-70g of fat.
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>>77423671
Yeah that's cool. It is expected that doing CICO will cause a temporary drop in weight followed by weight regain due to lowered metabolism.
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>>77423671
the ketoschizo is flooding every thread on the board
it seems to be a bot because it's mixing up information between threads, like bringing up stuff in one thread that was discussed in another one
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>>77423672
cope reddt ngger ngger cope reddt. been doing this thing called EATING A BALANCED DIET for 2 months now. steadily losing 4-5 lbs every week. just lift and do cardio dont be a pussy schizo faggot thats afraid of carbs. cope rddit ngger ngger go back to reddt.
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>>77423674
calling that subhuman a bot is a compliment, hes been off his meds for a while now. hes just a non-White that got triggered by someone on this board one day and lost it and made it his pathetic lifes mission to make people fail at /fat/loss.
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>>77423679
idk anon, seems like bot behavior
>>77422223
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>>77423682
maybe you're right. holy fuck if you check his MD5 archives on posts its very telling. can the useless jannies rangeban his ass already?
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Obese carb eaters are so emotional.

You can be chill and happy too if you stop eating carbs, /fat/ friends.
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>check the archive for his images
>hes been posting this schizo shit since 2020
>mfw
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>>77423685
>>77423689
if it's not a bot I'm slightly impressed by the level of deranged severe autism it takes to do this consistently for 6 years
think of what he could have achieved if he focused on training instead
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>>77423698
True. If he just lifted for those 6 years while dieting and ate carbs to fuel those lifts he could be mogging so hard, but instead he's just living a sad life being the retard we laugh at.
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>>77423702
Carbs have no benefit for lifting.
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>>77423702
yeah, it's a bot. no engagement with posts until certain words are used/detected
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carbs
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>>77423716
Interesting theory, let me test. CARBS LIFTING ketoschizo
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>>77423716
You guys were having a little circle jerk. What was there to engage with until a false claim was made?

You're fat. I'm lean. I come here to help you stop being fat. Don't accept my help if you don't want to. Enjoy being fat.

Me being provably lean for 5+ years makes my advice more reliable. You should be grateful I still post here to help others make it like I did.
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I'm really enjoying eating carbs and losing weight.
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I boughted zero sugar Pop
Go on without me
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>>77423732
>Go on without me
why? it's zero.
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>>77423734
It just feels wrong. It’s sweet but without any sugar

Satanic black magic, sick shit
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>>77423682
>>77423685
>>77423698
>>77423716

We have the same shit going on in the biz /pmg/ thread with a guy shilling against precious metals literally 24/7. We think it's a bunch of indians that get paid to do it, by whom and for what purpose no one has been able to figure out. Pretty sure 80% of /pol/ is bots straight out of israel or india.
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>>77423737
giving jeets internet access was a mistake
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21st hour of fasting, trying to get to 72. And then roll them. Rolling 72s should make the weight fookin fall off. Will probably get my gall bladder removed though
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>>77423728
Enjoy not making it to your goal weight and regaining.
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>>77423734
Your body still thinks its real sugar, it expects calories to come and when they don't you get hungrier. I wonder if it spikes insulin too.
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Yeah guys keep in mind, that the guy thats posting the same images and same shilling in every thread for 5-6 years, consistently. He's doing it to help you out, he loves you. This is why he does it, he just wants to help you. He's NOT a schizophrenic retard subhuman that needs to be put down. NOOOO!
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>>77423741
Fasting is based. It gives benefits aside from just weight loss. I am hoping fasting will fix my tinnitus. And if you eat low-carb fasting becomes quite easy due to reduced hunger.
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>>77423746
Fasting fixed my depression, and my athletes foot. It also helped with my acne, and I can pretty much see through walls now.
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>>77423745
>anti-keto spammer good
>anti-anti-keto spammer reposts bad
Interesting selective outrage.
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>Just realized the schizo is shilling fasting as well.
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>>77423751
Fasting is ketogenic.
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Please. Take the meds.
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>his anti-anti-ketoschizo reply is fucking 6 pages long on the search results
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH You cannot make this shit up.
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>>77423755
People reply to moxyte a lot because he has been seething about keto here for 5+ years.

The 'ketoschizo.png' has 36 pages, 895 results on the archive.

https://desuarchive.org/fit/search/width/958/height/656/page/36/

You're upset about the effect (people pointing out moxyte) but not the cause (moxyte himself).
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>>77423746
Very true
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Someone bought me some Doritos and normally I would scarf them down like an animal but they've been sitting on my dresser for like a day now and I'm probably gonna eat them in a few days. Honestly crazy to me that I have some self control now
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>>77423758
>ketoschizo.png
Sorry those were the results for 'ketolard.png', moxytes older anti-keto spam image. He eventually switched to posting 'Ketoschizo.png' which he has spammed at least 2285 times over 4 years. 92 full pages of spam in the archive.

https://desuarchive.org/fit/search/width/1635/height/854/

Moxyte has posted 'Ketoschizo.png' on /fit/ 1.61028894 times per day for 4 years straight. Even for a mentally ill vegan that is pretty impressive.

That is why there is always someone in /fat/ chimping out about low-carb diet advice. He is here every day and he is obsessive and deranged.
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so... there's a mentally ill schizophrenic keto poster who spends 16h a day for the past 6+ years autistically spamming all threads
at the same time, there's a mentally ill schizophrenic anti-keto poster who spends 16h a day for the past 6+ years autistically spamming all threads
neither post body
is that the gist of it?
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>>77423517
Of course
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Third day of maintenance
This shit is 100 times more difficult than losing weight

Losing weight is straight forward : Just don’t eat. I’m not cut out for this
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>>77423779
>1.61028894 times per day
Woah, isn't that the golden ratio? Got ourselves a Da Vinci schizoposter over here
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>>77423800
you're supposed to ease into maintenance slowly upping kcal intake progressively over a couple of weeks
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>>77423743
>Your body still thinks its real sugar, it expects calories to come and when they don't you get hungrier.
Wrong. Every single study on diet sodas shows people lose more weight when they consume them, even compared to water. They satisfy cravings.
>I wonder if it spikes insulin too.
Depends on which sweetener, most don't. Aspartame is likely the safest, it's literally just a dipeptide of two extremely common amino acids, phenylalanine and aspartic acid (inb4 muh methanol)
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>>77423793
No. I am the keto poster and I often go away for months at a time. And I only post in /fat/.

Moxyte (the anti-keto poster) is eternal and omnipresent. He also creates a lot of threads himself.



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