>Who is /fat/ for?For stockpilers of snacks working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqhttps://f-droid.org/packages/fr.shiningcat.simplehiit/Previous thread: >>77433024
i gained nearly a whole pound after a measly 8,800 calorie week intake, im starting to think keto schizo was right cause this is just bs
Fatty ContestTonerBitch193.3lbsFlex of the day: woke up with my hair bigger than my waist.
>>77436893Tomorrow morning walk 3 miles out and 3 back. Try not to eat too many carbs because they're basically slow release sugar. Your body burns fat when it runs out of sugar
>>77436911chocolate foid poster.. waow sexy
>>77436893That's what happens with CICO. It can be fixed with low-carb and fasting.
$0.99/lb ground turkey at the meat market a mile walk from the house. I bought 8 and am going back tmw. 3000 steps too.Weight has stayed around 182/183 but I also started taking creatine and got shit sleep last night. 2 more weeks before I recalibrate the calories and macros. Hungry and lethargic today but going kayaking with pops later. Did my hip mobility/strengthening workouts and went for a walk.
>>77436921WAGMI. Soon you too will own either a curl routine or a crimping iron. Soon you too will serve body.
>>77436893Calories in calories out I think is just part of the equation. The other thing you have to aim at is insulin resistance, where unironically the best thing you can do is avoid carbs. Besides the calories, you have to avoid blood sugar spikes and in aim for lower blood sugar overall.
>>77436911Would, and honestly, I think you reached the sweet spot for your bodytype. I'd not go lower
>>77436933I don’t want to. I’m trying to get stronger for my kids mostly nowadays.
Today I didn't feel so hungry so I ate 500 cals less to redistribute to the rest of the week. Is it fine or is it going to bite me in the back?
>>77436940It's perfectly fine. Just be careful to not take advantage of these "extra calories" and overeat too much the rest of the week
>>77436911Holy shit lmao wood nut in cider, in wine in anything
>>77436926Ground turkey is good for burritos tbqh
>>77436936>for my kidsOh no no no
Day 3 baby let's fooking gooooooI need some 0-5 calorie snacks so bad holy shit I was gonna get some pickles but they have infinite sodium it's so over
>>77436956What do you mean? My plan is to eat 100 cals more each day so that the total calories are still the same, is that not fine?
>>77436962I think that’s how you get a yeastie, anon.
>>77436979No that's fine. I meant it more as a mental thing where your brain could use it as an excuse to go overboard
I’m so lean and my face is so aesthetic I can’t stop mirin myself in the mirror, I just got /fit/ so I could ignore girls who mire me in public to make them seethe, is this normal behavior?
>>77437052>is this normal behavior?If by normal you mean common yes, if you mean neurotypical no.
Didn't change my diet at all Is this just water weight or has my metabolism slowed?Could slightly differences in activity level be to blame?What do?
So what's your guy's take on resistant starch? It doesn't take me out of ketosis, so I think it's fine, but I hear other people have issues with it.
>>77437067All the weight you lost is coom wasted touching it to anime catboys
>>77437090This makes no sense because I gooned 3 times yesterday my balls are empty
Fatty ContestLeChacel164.6lbsChronometer goal was set at 165 when I got down to 175lbs. Now my goal is set at 155lbs. WAGMIalso 5lbs away from not being overweight.
>>77436933>I think you reached the sweet spot for your bodytypefuck off no. she is still too fat and with too little muscle.
>>77437096You'll lose weight when you get your bottom surgery
>>77437102even if I decided to go trans I would definitely keep my penis I love you penis chan chu~
We did it, bros. I'm at 292.6 with the company outing being on Thursday. Almost a full 8 pounds past my goal of hitting 300 for the outing.If I can do it, you can do it.
>>77436886I've been on a calorie deficit / lifting 3 times a week for a few months now, started at ~225 and just weighed ~187. 185 has been my goal since that's what I weighed my whole life pretty much before gaining.So I'm nearly at my goal, but I do still have a bit of a belly. I guess it makes sense cuz you can't really target fat loss, but what do I have to do to get rid of it? Just lose more? I feel totally comfortable with my meal plan so it'd be easy to go further, but maybe ab exercise is the move here? I'd like to have a pretty flat stomach. I doubt 2 more pounds is gonna flatten my stomach but surely at a certain point, maybe like 175 it would be? I'm 6'1" btw
I use a cardio bike, feels like im doing something wrong because the rides are enjoyable but then my crotch is tender for 5+ minutes, and feels like im leaking down there.All in all I look forward to Tuesdays (Cardio Day), best purchase of my life.Just hit 32.5 minutes, 4 miles :D
>>77437132Good job anon
>>77437140I stopped doing as much cardio as I used to in favor of muscle building but I do kinda miss the recumbent bike days. I used to read a book or listen to music and it's surprisingly a great way to lock into whatever media I'm consuming. Music while driving is similar, need an activity to satiate my low level desire to be fidget or whatever but doesn't take an insane amount of focus. Real perfect conditions to take in music
>>77436886Remember: never eat carbs.
>>77437132Nice bro. I'm 27lbs away from 300, hoping I can get there by thanksgiving
Is there a fasting sweet spot
>>77437151why is the picture so amusing?
>>77436921This, but unironically.
>>77437156I don't think you know how to use that phrase buddy
>>77437151For me it's 72 hours
>>77437158Nah, but might be true for you if you've been using it in any other context.
>>77437142Thanks, anon. I feel a sense of relief being 7 pounds ahead of my goal, and being so far ahead of the projected weight loss.>>77437145What did you start at, anon?
Grill here,I'm lifting and unintentionally eating under TDEE.By the time I've hit my protein target throughout the day, there's no physical room for much else. I have to force down a 400g fruit smoothie (homemade) everyday because I can barely eat enough veg with my dinner. Is this ok? Its been weeks and I feel fine (apart from my period starting 5 days late).Also, I've developed a weird body odor sometimes even though I'm eating carbs/sugar from bread and fruit.
24 hours deep into a fast. My birthday is in just over a week. Next year I'll be 40. I refuse to ring in that decade a fat bastard. I don't want my kids to grow up with a fat dad. Let's see how the fasting goes. I see these people post how they go on 30 or even 40 day fasts and the incredible lasting results they get from them and I just think I can do it too why not? Wish me luck bros.
>>77437171What's your protien target? Remember its 0.72 per pound of your lean body mass of goal weight. That is to say if you want to be 120lbs at 20% body fat aka 96lb of lbm x 0.72g/lb thats only ~69g of protein a day. Which should not be so much bulk that it's a challenge to stuff it all in.
>>77437188Good luck anon. Make sure to get plenty of electrolytes in
>>77437188I mean, it works. its going to be tough though, good luck and remember to drink your pedialyte
>>77437151Five days. Day three is when the benefits max out and stopping there is foolish. Past 5 days tends to be too much for most people.
>>77437192Oh I've been eating 120g because I thought it was 1g per lb of ideal bodyweight.I've actually put on weight (muscle growth I assume) and my clothes are becoming quite baggy so I guess it's working? Double chin has disappeared too.
>offered some brownies>have several>check calories>257kcals per 60grams>over 900 calories downed just like thatit's so over
>>77437221Retard
>>77437164>What did you start at, anon?371 lolz
>>77437188Let's fookinggooooo
Just received my sister from Sweden :D obligatory Scandislop. Eating across the room cause while she is so sweet and nice; she’s just as talkative as I am and I’m way too overstimulated to be as nice as I should rn. Especially after navigating the Mall of America for this LUSH haul. We got the new Moomin collection. We love Moomin in this house.
>>77436893do waist measuring instead of scale
>>77437246When did you start?You can see on my graph that I was at 424 before Thanksgiving last year and I've lost 130lbs since then. If I can manage that, you're good.
>>77437144
>>77437229true. i'll try to not eat anything tomorrow. i should be able to do it for a day.
>>77437277Based
How do I stop masturbating daily? I feel like the porn I consume is breaking my mind because of how fucked the fetishes are(it's all hentai btw)
Fatty Contestcyansphere175 pounds5'11"
cute jogging girls are acknowledging me with waves and nods/smiles on my walks nowWAGMI
>>77437253Holy chit that's crazy, 130lbs. I started May 21st of this year. Breh thanks
>>77437288lucky faggotwagmi
>>77437280Who makes this shit lmao
>you're 1 pound from the finish line>suddenly she appearsdo you?
>>77437305run for miles and burn off the last pound>>77437250moomin shaped soap?
>>77437305Is she soft? Does she engage in my kinks?If no, I push on.
>>77437295Just keep in mind that I've not allowed myself beyond 2000 calories the entire time with the exception of the 4th of July. I've been in an extreme deficit for most of a year.
>>77437310>Yes and bath bombs and perfume and lotion :)https://lush.com/us/en_us/c/lush-x-moomin
>>77437305this is all of them btwthey will destroy you to make you undesirable to other women, then cease to desire you herself, then leave you a wreckthe greatest shit test of them all. you must resist
Threadly reminder, that:WAGMI
>>77437305This is literally my mom though
>>77437305Is there a 31 year old pedophile gf version by any chance?
>>77437327Do you need a new dad?
I just ate 273g of cucumbers while fasting. It was only 40 calories. I'm still fasting right?
I just ate 5 minutes ago and I'm already hungry again wtfBeing fat through puberty truly is a disease
>>77437305I suspect a physiotherapist I once had was a feeder, she got dissappointed when I lost weight.
>>77437334No :(
can someone explain feederism to someone with little knowledge of fetishes? how does that even become sexual?
>>77436886my diet is shit right now, I gained almost 20lbs in like 6 months. I am gonna start doing cardio every day. I weigh fucking 270lbs, this shit is not good I don't wanna get to 300lbs of fat.
>>77437330N-no...
>>77437336Shouldn't have eaten carbs.
>>77437352As a feedee: Good food triggers dopamine. Good food from someone you love = oxytocin + dopamine = lovey dovey feelings.
>>77437361Rice is basically all I eat, you're right. Maybe I should get some berberine or something first and then work to change my diet
>>77437334I guess. take a walk if you feel guilty>>77437352I assume its about control/ownership
>>77437336Fasting revamps your relationship with food, trustI used to eat like every 30 min and order fast food twice a day
I'm finding it really hard to gauge how much I need to eat because I don't work every day. Days that I don't work I basically lie in bed on the computer the whole day except when I workout and days when I work I'm constantly active moving about. I thought I was eating enough the last couple of days at work because I felt fine, but today I'm off work and I go to do my chest day and I feel weak as fuck.I'm also finding potatoes unreliable as fuel for working out because they release their energy so slowly. It's fine if you've got stored glycogen, but I don't and trying to work out a few hours after eating and I still feel weak.
>>77436919>>77436929>>77436924>Your body burns fat when it runs out of sugarFalse. Your body burns fat and sugar simultaneously.Carbs will be prioritized for high intensity training but your body doesn't just stop burning fat because it has carbs to burn.https://www.mysportscience.com/post/the-myth-of-switching-to-fat-metabolismhttps://journals.physiology.org/doi/epdf/10.1152/ajpendo.1993.265.3.E380CICO + 30 min of zone-2 HR training daily is king.
>>77437305Rape her so hard I lose the last pound in coital sweat and semen alone
>get new cpap>try jerking off with it onbrain felt like I hit meth goddamn
>>77437470can we see
why haven't you fat retards hopped off keto, which is bullshit and just started reta? it actually works
>>77437334>A 273g serving of raw cucumbers contains between 5.9 and 9.9 grams of total carbohydrates, depending entirely on whether you leave the skin on.You should still be in ketosis.
>>77437485$$$$$$
>>77437485im on "eating 800 cal a day" and its working pretty fast
>>77437419ThisThough it doesn't really matter in the long run, your body has evolved over millions of years to choose the right fuel when needed. All (You) need to focus on is eating less.
>>77437489its like 100 bucks a year
>>77437202>I thought it was 1g per lb of ideal bodyweight.That's the number power lifters use, but if its working for you keep it up.
Please help bros, I'm fucking dying here.So after a year of weight loss I'm past goal weight. I weigh 134 lbs at 5'7", male obviously. In clothes I now look good, arguably skinny. My BMI is good. I don't want to lose any more weight but just maintain and have energy for a couple months and take a break.Trouble is that I cannot fucking eat maintenance and have energy. I feel like absolute shit 24/7. My quality of life has taken a nosedive because I have constant weakness and fatigue, low energy, no strength in my body. It's affecting my job, and overall every day just feels tired and sluggish and like I'm about 80 years older.My heart rate also can drop as low as 39 BPM resting.I became convinced I have a health problem. Yesterday I ate a surplus to see what would happen (already passed today without repeating) and was surprised to find that I felt like my old self again. No bad heart rate.I eat 2100/day. I work 4 days a week, retail, 8 hour shifts. I walk to and from work, then spend the entire shift on my feet, lifting heavy boxes and unloading (my department is a heavier one). I used to run treadmill after work but I'm honestly too fucked for that now. I walk into town on my days off but mostly sit on benches reading when there. I don't drive/cycle so I walk everywhere I go. My legs hurt to fuck and are weak to support my weight even though I'm light now. I keep nearly falling over/losing balance, especially after a shift.I am extremely tired and everybody tells me I'm irritable as fuck which is true. Yesterday I ate 1500 surplus and felt comfortably energized, maybe slightly more than necessary. But it is not sustainable to eat such a wild surplus every day (also my body can't even deal with that shit any more).I want to try 2400 but I honestly think I will gain weight and I'm scared to do that because with my leg issue I don't know if I can run it back off again.
>>77437515Body dysmorphia takes another victim
>>77437515Should have added that my macros are good. I have protein, carbs, fats down. My diet is not literally perfect but better than the average person's at this point for sure. I can't see that I have a deficiency or anyway it seems improbable.
>>77437515eat a mango at break. eat home made salsa for dinner (tomato, onion, jalapeno in a blender)
>>77437171Hi, ladyfren. I also struggle to fit enough protein into my body. I really like “clear” protein supplements. They’re filtered significantly more than “non-clear” options to the point where they’re considered a clear liquid. A clear liquid is something that is urinated out and doesn’t result in fecal matter. Other examples are water, gatorade, tea; the stuff you’d be told to ingest in the hours before a surgery. I really enjoy OATH clear protein. I bought it after being influenced, but it’s remained a staple for over a year because it doesn’t feel nearly as heavy as things like bars/shakes. On a bad day, it really is a lifesaver cause I’m almost always up for a lemonade. I make slushees with the “frosty lemonade” flavor in my Ninja machine. A serving yields approximately 20g protein in a 16-24 fl. oz form factor.I also choose salmon as my protein of choice (although my doctor has told me I really shouldn’t have predatory fish more than 3x/week, even though salmon is a safer choice compared to cod/tilapia/tuna). Those damn slammin’s are so good tho. So versatile.
>>77437171>As for body odor, mine got a bit weird after I first started losing weight, but I think it goes away. May or may not be related to the swap in cleansers though. I use Naturium salicylic acid cleanser. I need something fragrance free (I get deematitis) and mildly acidic to support your skin barrier. Lume makes a good pH balanced cleanser if you want a nice smell too though. Also natural deodorants. I sweat too much to justify them. They don’t work for me.
Any of you use DNP? How's it going?
>>77437202It's between 0.5g to 0.7g/lb to get the most benefits for least amount of protein. Most of the benefits are at 0.5g and then drop off at 0.7g.
>>77437485I'm combining fasting and keto, pretty much the old cheat code before the medicines, and far healthier
Oldfag reporting in.>be 40>Start lifting with teenage son a year ago after like 10 years off>Bench up to 195, Squat 405, DL 405>Also Tricep extensions 100lbs for 15 reps>feelsgoodman.jpg>Muscle is continuing to build but I still eat like shitHelp me stop eating like an asshole, please. I weigh 285 :(
>>77437564post body, dilf anon
>>77437557doubt it
>>77437565I promise no one wants to see it. I am fairly happy with my arms lately, tho. But my gut and man boobs are atrocious.
Hey /fat/ I got a question about joint pain.My job has me on my feet all day, and lifting and kneeling a lot (grocery clerk). I've been doing stronglifts for a bit and my squat's up to 310 pounds now.Only thing is I think I fucked up the cartilage in my knees, I've had this happen before and solved it by doing less high impact cardio. Well now its just constnat.Should I deload? Wait a week for my knee to heel? Focus more on cardio and reduce stronglifts to 1 or 2 days a week? I'm still a pretty big dude, I'm starting to think I should focus more on cardio so I can burn fat quicker.Anyone got any advice?
>>77437569i want to see it
>>77437575>Anyone got any advice?Yeah stop cardio altogether, running is what wears out the knee joint and if it's actually fucked from a lifetime of running then it's not just going to heal on it's own, you need a doctor to inject your knee with some kind of shit that acts like a lubricant and it only lasts a few years.
>>77437579Sorry I'm not gay either
>>77437586Im F
>>77437592The first rule of 4chan is there are no grills on the internet.
>>77437564buy lots of chicken from now on.Heres my kung pao recipe.1/2 onion, 1 jalapeno, 2 breasts cubedput those in a medium heat pan with a spray of pam. stir until chicken is cooked. turn the heat off. in a bowl crush a cube of soup bouillon, add a pinch of peanuts, and a single (small) spoonful of kikoman, ketchup, water, and chili oil. pour it over your chicken and stir it until its covered. this is about 500cal and 50g protein
>>77437604Thank you, anon. Will try this (rather, I will ask my wife to cook it)
>>77437579Literal homo get a hold of yourself
>>77436924>That's what happens with CICO. It can be fixed with low-carb and fasting.so you're saying it can be fixed with CICO
>>77436924these people lost like 200lbs so of course their BMR is going to be much lower.
>>77437622>>77437592
>>774375152100 calories is NOT your maintenance. You work 8 hour shifts on your feet 4 days a week, you do manual labor, you walk to and from work and everywhere else… your true maintenance is likely 2600 to 2900+ calories a day.Your heart is literally in starvation mode, and the real kind, not the cope fatties use to justify eating like shit. You are running on empty, friend. No wonder you felt normal when you ate more.At least bump your calories up to 2400 YESTERDAY. Your weight on the scale will go up, but rest assured it’s not fat, just your muscles storing water now that they’re actually getting enough glycogen from the food you eat. You should also see a doctor. God knows what this has done to your blood, hormone profile, etc…
>>77437677Forgot to add: If you don’t want to feel stuffed boiled eggs, peanut butter, avocados, oats are all very calorie dense and digest easily
am I supposed to relax my abs when I measure for navy bf%? cause it makes about an inch difference and that for whatever reason means I have like 3lbs more or less lean mass. also I never get the neck measurement right.
Do you guys eat cereal? It's my best source of fiber and is relatively low calorie.
>>77437698cheerios are alright, rather have oats though, easier to eat without milk. I put water on the electric kettle and pour it over the oatz. its bland but its easy to eat and is easy on the stomach
>>77437698>relatively low calorieOnly if you eat the recommended serving size, which I never did. Cereal is way to easy to overeat. Cereal is incredibly calorically dense and its like half a cup in milk for a third of your day's calories, its bullshit. Only makes sense if you're bulking or super active.
>>77437698Actual cereals or goyreal
After 9 days of rolling fasts, I caved in and had mcdonalds. I just had to have something unhealthy. Starting new rolling fast today.
I can't tell if its body dysmorphia or I'm actually turning back to a shitpile. My old progress pics look better than my new ones but I feel stronger in every way and objectively less heavy.
>>77437592lies
>>77435963
>>77437716im dead serious
>>77437698I eat some protein fortified chocolate granola slop in milk, I think it's quaker brand. It's more expensive but not bad for its calories and protein. One thing I can seriously praise it for is that it's so fucking crunchy that even the last little bit in the bag is good to eat, the granola doesn't break down into dust like more processed cereals do.
Another day of OMAD successfully completed.
>>77437485>retaHaving to take meds to lose weight is a sign of an obese mindset.
>>77436911love ur lips and hair granny, you're so cool...keep getting stronger for your babies!>>77437529>I make slushees with the “frosty lemonade” flavor in my Ninja machine.nta but how do u make this? i tried smth similar one time and it more than doubled in size and took me almost 2 hours to drink all of it
>>77437771How does one fix an obese mindset? What exactly is the nexus of such a mindset in relation to food?
>>77437786you don't treat food like fuel to have when neededyou treat it as a cope, a comfort, a reward, something to do when you're boredyour body is out of whack and hormones as wellyou are inundated with food noise, normal people are not. they do not over indulge everyday, their lives do not revolve around eating and the next meal.they eat some, they eat what is needed and move on to the next thing.you keep chasing the feeling of comfort and pleasure that you get from your food and want it again and again over indulging each time. you seek it out in the in between.it's all a disordered unhealthy relation to food.the "fix" for me what strict limited deficit held for 2 weeks solid with no over eating, no junk.if i felt "hungry" when I knew I wasn't, I drank water and "toughed" it out until the next day.you need to let your body reset. become familiar with what feeling full actually feels like rinse and repeat this.
>>77437796Thank you. I won’t run from discipline any more.
>>77437804you can do it anon, I know you cankeep yourself accountable and you will get there
what should I eat for breakfastyes, I need breakfast or I'm going to go apeshit at lunch and eat too much
Why does it feel like I'll never get under 200lbs? Shit's been impossible with these last 10 lbs. Stalling for weeks at a time and only losing 1-2lbs per week once the stall is over.Feels like I'm never gonna make it there.
>>77437819egg>>77437829can you go harder at the gym and tighten up your diet more?
>>77437778I make mine with only 16oz water- the smallest amount possible with the machine before you risk breaking it. It gives me a perfect serving for a single beverage- about a large-sized icee cup from the movies. >You can also do what I did when I was poorfag, using two ziploc bags and rock salt:https://extension.umd.edu/programs/family-consumer-sciences/snap-ed/eat-smart/recipes/fruit-slushie-bag/
>Granny’s up late making money moves finished last month with $0 on my credit card balance… So I bought myself a paddleboard. Been spending enough $$ on rentals every week. Might as well have my own iSUP that I can take anywhere I please. >Also finally light enough to take any of my kids- plus my visiting sister on the board without surpassing the 350lb weight limit ~(•W•)~The land of 10,000 lakes isn’t ready for me, I fear. >Plus the kind of stuff I do (mostly cross-touring at a decent speed and/or tricks/yoga) burns around 400cal/hour (Based on a 5 second google search, but I’m getting it so I have a way to fish offshore, and explore my local waterways; without needing any boating knowledge)
>>77437856
>>77437838i think i might try the ziploc method bc i'm worried about over blending again and having to slog through a bunchtysm!>>77437856be careful and safe while on the water please
>>77437860Yw pookie.Also, don’t worry. I’ve copped a matching life jacket (picrel) as well as some additional category 3 PFDs (rated for activities on calm, inland water) for others. If you’re chesty, I recommend the Astral Layla as much as I can before actually getting out on the water. I’ve purchased and tried it on today (irl) and it fits so well. First time I’ve had a PFD contour to my chest/waist, and leave room for full ROM in my shoulders.
my parents had some salt and vinegar chips left open lying around and i broke down and ate a bunchfeels like i just downed a pint of hazardous chemicals or something jesus christ
>>77437874Vinegar is a hazardous chemical. I love having them around cause my mouth bleeds after a few handfuls then I have to stop. >If you’re ever cleaning with concentrated vinegar, be sure to wear gloves.
>>77437137If you were fat before you may even have to go down to 140-130lbs
>>77437895dayum. I was never fat, I've always been relatively skinny and tall. At 180 I don't think I had a belly at all.But yeah I guess I'll just keep the deficit up and see what happens. I feel like 140 would be way too low for my height but we'll see, ty
>>77437535I used DNP once, I think I lost 25 close to 30lbs in a week and a half (I had a wedding to attend and wanted to look good), went from 170lbs to low 120s in the full month, but everyday it felt like I was cooking myself inside a pan, it just werks but it can be dangerous if u ain’t careful
>>77437871i have thalassophobia despite growing up by the sea but i'll keep the life vest in mind just in casegood luck!
>>77436886How "bad" is it for me to not hit my protein goal for 1 day?
Did my stepsI wanna do my steps every day this month
>>77437597Thats Rule 30 you casual.
>>77437535https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3550200/Careful
>>77437915>>77437973Thanks for the answers. I was mostly just curious, I'm not desperate enough to actually take it. But if I did ever start a weight loss drug DNP or T3 would be it, I simply don't trust the pharmacology of anything else.
>>77437067>>77437110Kys degenerate
>>77437978It'd be better to just practice self discipline and learn to do it the normal and right way. Rather than mess around with your life potentially. I've not looked into the new injections everyone is using but are they more dangerous that elevating your internal temp to dangerous levels over an extended period of time? Or is it the unknown long term side effects that you worry about?
What's the best protocol for discipline maxxing?
>>77437983Agreed, again I don't have any trouble with that, it's just an autistic sort of hypotheticalThe new GLP-1 related drugs are far, far, far, far, far safer than anything like DNP and I cannot state this enough. But I don't like their mechanism of action since they reduce calorie intake which in turn leads to elements of a fasting response, muscle loss, low energy, etc. DNP and T3 on the other hand increase energy expenditure which basically makes you feel like normal, maybe hotter or more amped up (respectively). Though as far as mitochondrial uncoupling goes if I were to get my hands on one I would go with BAM15, it has a way better safety profile than DNP and could actually even be beneficial in therapeutic use.
>>77437978Imagine being this dumb. What's your IQ anon? 60? Are you black/Somali/etc?
>>77437987Buy a bag of oreo cookies, eat exactly 1 (one) oreo cookie everyday, no more, no less, if you can finish an entire bag without skipping a day or eating more than one cookie a day you've made it.
>>77437992I could never do thatI’d inhale the Oreos in an minute So I never buy slop
>>77437988Oh, interestingly there's a company developing a prodrug for DNP and it's going through clinical trials (phase 1 cleared implies it's safe)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinifedriton
>>77437998Abstinence doesn't train discipline, just like fasting doesn't train healthy eating, its replacing one unhealthy tendency with another, being able to have a little and then say 'no' to more is the goal. You only get there by engaging in a small amount and then forcing yourself to stop, each time you get over that urge you become stronger and it becomes weaker. That struggle against the urge to overindulge is what you need to train, and you'll main serious gains once you put your mind to it.Oreo is just an example, it really could be anything you'll have the urge to overindulge on, usually snack foods like jerky, cookies, chips, fries, ect are best because we are conditioned to want more than one of them.
HOLY FUCK, day 4 of my 7 day fast and my fucking neighbour is making a fucking goulash and I can smell the heavenly taste just salivating at it FUCKKKKK
80.2kgs
>>77437978Ignore the crabs, yes it is a dangerous drug but people still use it today for rapid weight loss, as long as you’re able to dose it right you won’t die, whenever I want to shed some fast weight after a big bulk I’ll just do it for 2-3 weeks max, I despise glps1s because it takes way too long and it’s way more expensive, DNP is harder to get so be sure you’re getting from a good source, I got it from a friend who’s an ifbb pro so I knew it was safe, don’t buy DNP from Indians or China, it’ll be a Russian roulette.The risk to reward ratio is just better than glps1s imo, you take it, you’ll quite literally cook ur fat in a few weeks, last time I used it was 20lbs in 2, which allowed me to stay at 10% bf, I already have a good diet and lifting regimen, I’ve lifted for 4 years and competed in amateur shows so I rarely binge eat it back.
>>77437988Understood. Be safe.
>>77438032Are you the Catholic guy from the US?
I'm on week 8 of doing 4 day split resistance training and today I just noticed my muscles are really hard when I flex despite the subcutaneous fat I still haveit feels really good to finally see/feel results, I'm really happy with myself
>>77438111No, but I wonder where he is. Haven't seen him post in a while, he may have gotten banned again or just gave up. He inspired me to switch from 3-4 day fasts to roll 7 days until the end of August. Already done 2 in a row so curious how it'll go.
How many days after donating blood until your weight goes back to normal?I donated blood 2 days ago and now I'm 1kg down, is this a temporary thing?
>>77437623The problem is caused by CICO. It is fixed with low-carb and fasting.
>>77438125I am doing 3-5 rolling fasts where I eat up to 600-1000 calories, although most times I get by on under 200 calories. I can fast 3 days on 0 calories with some willpower but if I allow myself 600 calories or so I can push it a day or two so I still am -3500 calories on a day. I am losing a lb a day still. 10k steps. Also I am 400+ lbs so my TDEE is massive with the walking. Idk 7 days is insane to me and each I tried I just binge out. Apparently he's been doing it for months, just back to back and losing I think like 6 lbs a week. He has 2 months left. So that's why I am super impressed.
>>77437786How to fix an obese mindset in two steps:1. Stop believing CICO.2. Quit eating carbs.
>>77438125btw what's your sw, cw, gw? And you are exercising?
>>77437988>>77437999Low-carb diets boost metabolism through mitochondrial uncoupling. DNP also boosts metabolism through mitochondrial uncoupling.So low-carb is like a safe natural form of DNP.
>still skinnyfat at 23.4 BMIhow is this allowed
>>77436911damn didn't know we had queens lurking
>>77438148>ketoschizo believes the solution to uncontrolled eating habits is uncontrolled eatinglol, lmao even
>>77436911if childless I'd eat your assif you have kids you disgust me
>>77438147That's a great job, anon. You're gonna be shedding the weight at this size, don't get discouraged when it slows down when you lose a ton of weight though. And don't fall into the fasting trap where you don't learn to diet after you're done or you'll be back where you started. He did mention once that a janny had it out for him so he's most likely banned kek. >>77438149My SW weight was 121,4kg (268lbs) in mid April this year. My last weight in was on Saturday and I was at 92,9kg (205lbs) and my original goal weight is 80kg (175lbs) but I might push it to 75kg (165lbs) because manlet. But I didn't start fasting until the start of June, until then I just ate at 1k calories and slowly got into fasting by skipping a day for 2 weeks in May, then 2 days and from the start of June I started to roll 3-4 day fasts and now I switched to 7 days until end of August where I hopefully hit 87-88kg (190lbs). It's slowed down and even after 7 day fasts last week I only lost 3 lbs and I stall every other week which sucks. I plan to share my progress later this month here of my weight loss from a simple notepad I'm keeping.
>>77438161The woman in the pic you're replying to believes CICO. Guess if she made her weigh-in goal or not.
I've been eating nothing but carbs and losing weight
>>7743815823 bmi isnt even low wtf
>>77438171Post body.
>>77438149Forgot to add, no exercising. I have almost no energy when fasting kek. I plan to start once I ease up on the fasting though.
>>77438172what is low then? I'm almost 2 points under the overweight limit
>>77438166I don't give a fuck about whatever retarded shit you're babbling aboutz lmao nigger who cares about your cico vs keto ramblingsalso don't care what the fat hog was doing, you literally said>the solution to uncontrolled eating is uncontrolled eatingabsolute subhuman iq take
>>77437493where?
>>77438184Quitting carbs is controlling your eating.
>>77438182>what is low then?for men anything undwr 18 is low, 23 is literally (((normal)))
>>77438187>>77437144>obese mentality = uncontrolled eating>unlimited calories = uncontrolled eatingthese are objective facts>b-but you do control the c-carbsyou're a retarded subhuman thirdie that can't comprehend basic vocabularyneck yourself
>>77437680>am I supposed to relax my abs when I measure for navy bf%?yes>also I never get the neck measurement right.take several measurements and use the lowest value
>>77438194Unlimited calorie low-carb works better than restricted calorie with carb. Pic related.You believe CICO and you are fat. I think CICO is fake and I am lean. Checkmate.
>>77438196unlimited means uncontrolled>the solution to uncontrolled eating is uncontrolled eatingliterally retarded lmao
>>77437680navy bf test is extremely inaccurate unless you're already lean, it's a test meant for soldiers who are already in shape, not for fattiesif you want to know your real bf% get a DEXA scan
>>77438198If it's retarded, why did they lose weight so effectively compared to the calorie restricted carb-heavy diet?
>>77438201lmao I don't care, I'm not even defending any diet at allI'm just pointing out how mind boggling stupid your argument is
>>77438198Controlling carbs without worrying about calorie measurements gives better results than fussing about an irrelevant calorie measurement while eating carbs.
>>77438201Please document yourself eating 4 sticks of butter a day and track you weightloss, it will be a boon to all science.
>>77438208>this nigga thinks the solution to uncontrolled eating is uncontrolled eatinglmao nigger put down the cake and grab a carrot you fat fuck
>>77438211You are fat.
>>77438182you are not lean the second you stop being overweight
>>77437535Dick in pussy? Yeah everyday
>>77438194keeeek the fatty on the right is seething mad, put down the bread
>>77438221>t. fat third worlder
>>77438254I've been lean for years. Once you figure out that CICO is a hoax maybe you can be lean like me.
>>77438254keeeeeek just stop eating carbs fatso
>>77438273>>77438283put the cake down fattieseat a carrot>unlimited eating is the cure for unlimited eatinghahahahhahahahastay fat retards
>>77438032I swear when fasting I can smell in 4D, it's like an LSD enhancement for food smells and taste.It's actually really nice when you go to break your fast. Eating something delicious with a nice flavor profile slowly and focusing on it, I find that I can taste it in 20 dimensions. Usually I break it with a small salad, balsamic is divine, but breaking it with something like a simple sea salt dark chocolate piece or a piece of dry-aged steak....better than sex
I fucking did it bros... Finally back down below 200lbs from a peak weight of ~310lbs. Haven't weighed this since high school probably. Still fat. Huge milestone for me though.
>>77438208Yeah, fat and protein are much more satiating than carbs. Anecdotally, I can stick to a caloric deficit much more easily while eating keto.
>>77438349nicepost stomach
>>77438349Congratulations anon, amazing work.
>>77438351I'll upload a new progress pic in a few days/weeks. Still trying to hit my first pullup.
>>77438355damn, that's an incredible changegood for you anon, keep it up fren
>>77437279thanksi'm halfway through the day. the slop is tempting but i'm not actually hungry. no calories consoomed yet.
>>77438349Congrats dude, that's amazing. < 200lbs is my goal as well. I'm at 242 as of this morning, your results gave me a nice boost of motivation to keep going.
>172.5 this morningThat's a new lowWhy am I not happy
Disregarding the ketoschizo stuff, what is the carb range one should aim for in both cutting and maintenance? I'm plenty sure the official numbers are too high.
6 months in ketosis, 0 trainingI wish I learned about keto earlier
>>77438390if you're not pre-diabetic it is FINE to have carbs in the morning, you will burn it off
>>77438390the brain needs roughly 150g of glucose for optimal functionality, anything less than that and the body turns amino acids into glucose, if protein intake is inadequate than the body converts muscle into protein and into glucose
>>77436886Fatty ContestSpicyMcHaggis104.4kg
>>77438390Just don't eat like a fucking pigJapanese people eat rice all the time and look at themBeing so anti carbs you refuse to even lick a piece of pasta is ridiculous
>>77438397>>77438404>>77438409I am more concerned about what should be the max amount provided I meet my protein and fat minimum requirements aswell. How many of my "disposable income" calories are okay to put in carbs if you will
>>77438416200-400 calories in carbs is ideal
>>77438416there is no maximum for carbsthe body burns energy, excess energy gets storedthere is no maximum for fatthe body burns energy , excess energy gets storedprotein has a soft cap because there's only so much you can actually use for building and repairing muscles, afterwich it either gets burned as regular energy or stored
>>77438416>>77438420you do however have minimumsfor carbs it's 150g regardless of height/weightfor fat it's 50g regardless of height/weight for protein it's 0.7g per kg of body weight
The day after your eating window during rolling 72hr fasts is the worst, the scale always goes up fml
>>77438384Because you're 5'1
>>77438434I'm 5'10Maybe 5'11 but I do weight stuff at 5'10
>>77436911i'd cum in you if you know what I mean
>>77438416On a cut, I don't think it's possible to get too many carbs with remaining calories. If you are hitting ~1g/lb of bodyweight for protein, and something like 40-60g/fat per day, carbs can make up the rest and be fine. That said, I would avoid simple carbs like the plague, and I get wanting to go lower; I find the more carbs I have in my diet, the more hungry I get, and the more I want to eat. Too little, and you feel like shit. You can start at the above numbers and play with dialing up fat/dialing down carbs until you start feeling like shit, then bump up the carbs to that minimum baseline.
>>77438390The optimal carb level is zero.
>>77437067just kys animutard
>>77438453Yeah having 1 spaghetti will give you super diabetes and your pancreas will dissolve
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>>77438390Find your TDEE. Now eat 500-700 calories less than that.First priority is hitting your protein. 1g per pound of your lean/goal bodyweight.Second priority is fats. Good rule of thumb is 1/3 of your protein.Third priority is carbs. Fill whatever left-over calories with carbs.>200lb trying to diet down to 180.TDEE roughly 2600 kcalCalorie intake 2100 kcal180g protein -- 720 kcal180 * 1/3 = 60g fat -- 540 kcal2100 - (720 + 540) = 840 kcal of carbs -- 210gThat's a good starting point, but I prefer a bit more protein, so I would cut back on the carbs to fit like 200g protein in but you can do that math yourself.>>77438453stay fat.
>>77437771not using the tools made available to you is a retard mindsetand being obese is an obese bodysetfat faggot
>>77438431if you avoid carbds, you can avoid the glycogen weight, and eventually the keto flu
>>77438420protein break down your kidneys if you have too much
>>77438466Post body. Let's see which of us is fatter.
>>77438460Your metabolism goes down by 50kcal/day for every 10% of the diet that is carb.Optimal carb consumption is zero.
>>77438471>protein has a soft cap because there's only so much you can actually use for building and repairing muscles, afterwich it either gets burned as regular energy or storedand that's different to what I said... how?
>>77438476>t. retard that thinks the solution to uncontrolled eating is uncontrolled eating
>>77438480it destroys your kidneys if you take too much, it's not only burned or stored. so too much protein is the most if not the only dangerous macro to eat too much of. at least if you think poisoning/toxicology
>>77438470Carbs are my reason for continuing to live tbqh
>>77438478Long term keto is horrible for you
>>77437916Definitely don’t want a category 3 in the open ocean! Category 1 only! Category 3 won’t keep your head above waves or turn you right side up if you pass out. I know you just said you’re afraid of the ocean, but I felt the need in case anyone buys a category 3 PFD for ocean usage.
>>77438160Sometimes we have to crawl out of our hovels and see what’s up
>want to start glp1>doc is on vacationaaaaaaaaaa
>>77438484ah ok I understand what you meantbut the amount of protein you'd have to eat for that to happen is so ridiculously high I think it will probably never be a problem for the average personmost people can't bring themselves to eat their minimum amount a day let alone go so much over they fuck their kidneys up
>>77438494No it isn't.Long term carb consumption is horrible for you.
After multiple 72hr fasts, my thumb is now twitching. Why?!?
>>77438405what the fuck are you doing losing 2kg every day unless you're lying? shit's impossible even at that weight. i was barely losing 2 kg fasting 5 days a week at that weight.
>>77438540electrolyte disturbances most likely
>>77438165To be clear I meant I eat 600-1000 calories on my fasting days. I eat 3500-4500 on my refeed days. Of course this will come down as I lose weight. > He did mention once that a janny had it out for him so he's most likely banned kek. It's interesting that they allow the ketoschizo to derail every thread.> It's slowed down and even after 7 day fasts last week I only lost 3 lbs and I stall every other week which sucks. Your obviously smaller now but are you exercising at all? I think just walking is plenty. At a brisk pace that is. Aim to get 10000 steps in daily. If not more. But also as I am learning it's better to get do shorter fasts like 3 days because it's less stress on the body (and metabolism) but eat within reason. Early on in my fasts I was pigging out on fast food and would eat from 6 pm to midnight. Not continuously of course but I treated every refeed as an opportunity to be a glutton and a hedonist. > And don't fall into the fasting trap where you don't learn to diet after you're done or you'll be back where you started. I plan to do a high carb low fat diet. Like max 50g of fat daily if not lower like around 30g. Focusing on starches. Eating like poor people in the past did. Even most Europeans ate like this 50 years ago.
>>77438486my reason to live is probably just to fap and goon, that's even sadder
lost a lot of weightgained some musclestill can't see my dick
>>77438564Are you sure it was ever there, anon?
Started Tirzepatide 2 weeks ago, didn't think it was doing much but just realized today I've forgotten to eat the past 2 days
>>77438560>I plan to do a high carb low fat diet.Then you are planning to fail at weight loss.
every time i hit a new low i drink so much water and gain like 2kgs, why?
Gonna try my first 24 hr fast and see how it goes
>>77438601Maybe it’s water weight
>>77438562How do you fap more than 1-2 times a day I can't even get horny at that point
>>77438564That's because you got bottom surgery remember
>>77438632i'm fat not gay anon
>>77438630
C25K week 7 day 1Imma be real with you niggas, it doesn't get easier
How much salt am I supposed to add to my water?
>>77438656Walk instead. It’s superior for fat loss
>>77438658Too boring
>>77438664Fair enough
I finished it a while ago, it does actually get easier imo once you are used to no walking sections but just be aware the name is a scam and if you are doing timed you are not going to be running 5k by the end of it. Closer to 3K
>>77438672Meant for>>77438656
>>77438672>>77438675Good to know, I'm somewhat aware of the 5k thingDid you do 5k to 10k after?
>>77438678No, I stayed at 3k for a while as my weight was giving me joints issues and now that I lost enough weight it seems not to be an issue anymore I am increasing the distance by 10% a week. It seems to be working for me, might be slower than doing the bridge to 10k but it feels definitely safer
>>77438532Italians and Japanese people live so long it's detrimental to their societies and they consume pasta and rice by the boatloads
>>77436970You need sodium on a fast
>>77437334Nope
>>77437334>just ate while fasting
i ate a hamburger buts its okay i am still fasting
I have been waking up early for walks. I see a ton of fat couples wearing weight vests as they walk around the park. They're all wearing the same brand, it's crossed like an x in the back. Is this a new trend? Does it actually work and lead to increased weight loss?>6'1" and 215 lbs, trying to get down to 190-200 range.
>>77438691They walk a ton of steps every day and have smaller portions than the average Amerifat does. Also less processed junk and unflouridated water.
>>77438734Weight vests I think do work since they're the third way to increase value from your walking, besides increasing speed and time, but the real new thing is wearing a weighted backpack. Works a bit better than just a vest since it trains more muscles.
>>77438740So just wearing a backpack with a 25lbs weight in it would be good or does it have to be heavier?
>>77438734My dad uses one of those. He's not fat but he had to get a knee replacement surgery, and he said it's helped restrengthen his knee a lot
>>77438745Probably start with less, but should work. Main thing though is that you want an even distribution of the weight and want it to be as high up and centered+close to the back as possible.
>>77438687I'll probably do what you do similarly tb h, maybe try going actual 5k in 30 mins slowly progressing
>>77438748What are they called? What's the brand everyone is getting called so I can get one too and join the herd?
>>77438761I'm not sure which brand you saw. I think my dad has the 45lb version of this onehttps://www.roguefitness.com/mir-short-weighted-vests?sku=MIR40S
>>77438476>Post bodylol
>>77438745you need even weight distribution. fill it up with sand, marbles, etc
>>77438384you need to lose more
this shit taste weird af. I'm sticking with white monster
>>77438445what did he mean by this?
just got back from buying some new t-shirts since I've lost weight to the point I no longer need to go to the extra-large section and can shop in normal storesL (european) fits good but I bought 1 and another 3 in size XL because I like seeing them drape
>>77436911how old are you nona
Is it more effective to do more cardio or more fasting?
If I am lifting 6 days a week - can I still do fasting of 48 hours, eat day, 48 hours, eat day, etc?
>>77438866You can't outrun the fork, anon
>>77438745Normal backpacks are terrible for carrying weight, they are too low down and will put excessive pressure on your collarbones. I was going to try stuffing mine with a box filled with clothes to keep the plates high up in the bag but I never got around to it.
>>77438866more cardio.
>>77438866Fasting is better without a doubt.
Damn these threads always hit bump limit so fast
>>77438860I am 26. Having my favoritest sandwich at MiA. Garlic basil BLT. I think about this damn thing every day because I live an hour from its restaurant. Also having a Chai latte with extra cinnamon.
>>77438888Checked. We’re all gonna make it at levels never seen before
>>77437322Ok why do u let women control what you do lol
>>77438896>extra cinnamonwhite girl energy, looks good though
>>77438896>extra cinnamonbased
>>77436911>>77438896This isn't fucking facebook. Stop farming attention here.One foid enters and the thread immediately starts going to shit with simping.
bread...
>>77438947>no you're not allowed to share things, only me! moid mcfatass!
>>77438947Nigga I’ll post my food if I feel like it. Ur just mad that a foid has a higher TDEE than you do and can afford to eat nice things. Enjoy your tuna with hot sauce and broccoli tho. Cry to jannies if ur this pressed.
Why are there so many fasting anons here? My best maintained diet that got me 25 bmi is simply reducing portions and daily walks.It can't be good if you're student or working too.
>>77438839Kid named finger
>>77439007>>77439007>>77439007>>77439007
>>77438983this place used to even have an own fasting general, but traffic became too small so we just migrated herefasting with keto is the original cheat code before ozempic
>>77437329There kinda is actually
>>77437698I eat overnight oats and I could be convinced to eat some museli/granola/porridge type breakfast. If you mean modern "cereal" hell no.
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