>Who is /fat/ for?For obstinately obese working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>77501076
>>77503582
Thank you baker-chan
Got raped yesterday, will go to the gym tonight
>>77505508literally?
>>77505508Was he gentle?
>>77505516His name was Oreo; Bag of.
Down from around 170 to 162, still have gyno with no trace of it receding. Might have to commit gynpukku.
wagli
Reminder: do not eat the carbohydrates!
>>77505555Why? Won't lowering my calories good enough?
>>77505564He just wants you to go bald like he is, don't fall for his lies.
>>77505564Avoiding carbs is far more effective than reducing calories. And calorie restriction causes eventual weight regain.To get lean and stay lean you must focus on carb avoidance.
>>77505567I'm already balding like fuck. I'm just gonna get a wig with zero shame.
>>77505568That study barely proves shit. I do think refined sugar is bad for you in major quantites but cutting most carbs sounds retarded.
>>77505571Carb avoidance is so superior to calorie reduction that unlimited calorie low-carb beats restricted calorie with carbs every time.
>>77505581I wonder what the conclusion of that study because my first obvious guess that almost everything has carbs unlike fat.I could eat 2000 calories of bread without issue. I'll get sick of eating butter ir oil after the second spoonfull. There is basically zero good fatty foods. I bet if you just went on a meat diet, you would get similiar results due to beinh full from protein and being sick of meat.You have proved nothing.
>>77505586Please don't engage the ketoschizo, we ignore him to keep his shitting up the thread with the 8346583457583758th repost of the same pictures to a minimum.
>>77505590Why the fuck does every general have on schzio to not engage with. Btw, if no one questions the information he provides then what if someone follows it unknowingly thinking it'a true?
>>77505596They will quickly realize they are retarded after the 4th week where they feel like shit and gained weight
>>77505586There are plenty of great low-carb foods, like steak, burgers, bacon, eggs, cheese.
>>77505596If someone follows my advice they will finally lose weight and keep it off even if they have been failed by calorie restriction in the past (cico always fails).
>>77505616These are also coincidentally mostly all protein. Why should I be focusing on fats rather than protein if the options are mostly more protein than fats.
>>77505619You can eat unlimited fat and unlimited protein. Avoiding carbs is key.Restricting calories is an inferior approach which leads to failure.
>>77505596>Btw, if no one questions the information he provides then what if someone follows it unknowingly thinking it'a true?Oh yeah what if I ate in caloric surplus while trying to lose weight but it uh cancels out because it's bacon and eggs or something durr
eating protein is cheating because the body needs to burn more calories to digest protein than the other stuff
>>77505631There is unfortunately a grain of truth in your sentence although it's mostly due to what you should avoid in general is lots of refined sugar. I think forbidding all carbs whatsoever regardless of the food is stupid. I'm not anti-oxident rich foods such as fruit, garlic or onions which are very low in calories for pure fat which is just as calorie dense.Also I'm rejecting your theory that counting calories don't work.
>>77505637Bullshit, otherwise I would eat a kilo of chicken right now because I love eating boiled chicken. No way that will count as 0 calories if I did that.
>>77505645Hypercaloric protein diets don't cause any gain in body fat.Sorry you were lied to by sugar merchants. Calorie measurements have nothing to do with obesity.
>>77505649I don't see any reason to object to that study but all this makes me want to do is eat a lot of protein with a reasonable amount of carbs and fat. Granted the amount of carbs I eat will be dramatically lower due to my diet but that's just the nature of calorie restriction.I see no reason why I should remove all carbs and replace it with fats when fruits, vegetables and legumes are so good for you.
he mogs you
>>77505656A reasonable amount of carbs when trying to get lean is zero.
>>77505689Why?
>>77505703Because carbs are fattening. The fewer you eat the greater chance of success. Carbs are non-essential so you can eat zero, which is best.
>>77505717Carbs are calorie dense but so is fat. Shouldn't I ditch fat by that logic too? A small dose of carbs is fine. It gives me stable energy throughout the day. I like some carbs.
>>77505555Wasted quads.
>>77505649In that study participants consumed ~226g carbs daily in both groups.
>>77505736Hearing about the keto schizo for the first time, you'll think he'll have a better argument or proof to back up his claims. He can't even answer about fruit or vegetables.
>>77505742He doesn't actually care about that shit he just wants to spread misinfo and watch people suffer.In the study he posted everyone in there was an athlete, participants had an average of 15-16 bf% (they didn't separate by male and female, which is retarded because women have higher essential BF levels but whatever) and they all ate balanced diets, none of them were ketards. Also, that study was not "unlimited meat" retardation. The participants consumed obscene amounts of protein powder supplements because keeping their dietary ratios the same without it would not be feasible. Take what you want from the study, just know it doesn't bolster ketoschizo's claims.
How many carbs a day are necessary to keep glycogen stores up? I had a couple cheat meals over the weekend and gained 5 pounds, obviously that's water/glycogen weight but I already eat about 150g carbs daily on a simple reduced calories diet, am I seriously constantly out of glycogen?
>>77505748I think we should research the negatives of giving up carbs entirely for a prolonged period of time. Perhaps ketotard is intentionally inflicting permament damage on people in some way we don't know yet.
>>77505751You're not out of glycogen.
>>77505757We should research why ketoschizo has yet to post his hairline despite claiming keto reverses hair loss(lol)
I am so fucking ready to be eating 2K+ calories again.
>>77505751>How many carbs a day are necessary to keep glycogen stores up?Zero.
>>77505759I guess it's just regular water weight then.
>>77505728Carbs cause a high insulin response, fat causes very little. Eating carbs immediately dumps sugar directly into your blood stream. Insulin is the signal for your cells to take in as much sugar from your blood as possible. Too much sugar in your blood will kill you so It's so important that this happens quickly. Because it happens so quickly, eating carbs is accompanied with a drop in blood sugar, which causes a rebound in hunger.You see, you're only supposed to have about 1 teaspoon of sugar dissolved in your blood at a time and most modern sources of carbs dumps way more than this directly into your blood stream. Hence why carbs, even a tiny bit, cause hunger and should be avoided.Why does it work this way with sugar and not fat?Sugar is a tiny high energy molecule with low energy of activation that is only a couple steps from being used as the energy source in your cells. It's also an ion when dissolved in blood so it fucks with osmotic pressure. Means that sugar acts as tiny energy bombs that burn whatever it bumps into in your blood and causes your body to suck in water which fucks with everything. If you've been eating lots of carbs your entire life there is definitely permanent damage throughout your body.Fat is a large molecule that is also high energy but has high energy of action and does fuck all to anything it bumps into and will cozy up to proteins until it needs to be used for something. Your body is also really good at using fat for energy and requires dietary fat to make hormones so you should eat fat.But hey, don't let my post get in the way of you being an unlovable fat fuck that needs to eat carbs constantly. Your inability to not eat one type of thing for just a little while isn't a sure sign that you're not going to make it.
>>77505808it's much simpler than that>humans evolved to eat fish, meat, vegetables and fruitso only eat that or>God says eat fish meat vegetables and fruitso stop eating shit that wasn't around 200 years ago, no candy bars soda or bread that doesn't mold or is made with lard
>>77505808I already debunked you, idiot>>77496817 >>77496823https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6482034>Plasma ghrelin remained suppressed during subsequent periods of hypoglycemia and hyperglycemia, demonstrating that insulin can suppress plasma ghrelin independently of glucose (132). Also, a bolus injection of insulin to induce hyperinsulinemia suppressed plasma ghrelin in humans and rodents, regardless of whether individuals were maintained in hypoglycemic or normoglycemic ranges with concurrent glucose infusion (124, 133).https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10127526>no significant ghrelin change>No significant between-group differences were seen in feelings of hunger.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6722776>We found no correlations between ghrelin changes and nutritional status and body composition>These results suggest that a long-term cKD does not change ghrelin and leptin concentrations independently of age and neurological condition.>Your body is also really good at using fat for energyThis is untrue. It takes more oxygen per ATP produced from fatty acids than from glucose.>requires dietary fat to make hormonesKind of? You need a few essential fatty acids: α-linoleic acid and linoleic acid. Aside from that, not really.
>>77505808Finally some substance. I'm going to ignore the 3rd paragraph as I have no idea what it means and you may be right but I'm not going to trust something without any proof or source especially on something I don't know understand.However this doesn't explain why I shouldn't eat a small amount of carbs as an option with fruits and vegetables or dedicate the food I eat with complex carbs that take a slow time to release throughout the body.Also you're missing vital nutrients which is going to damage your body way more (developing scuvy) without any fruits or vegetables which usually contains carbs carrots.
>>77505826Carbs are fattening.
>>77505834I believe in cico btw.
>not eating enough to grow>eating too much to lose weight>start regressing in my lifts>need to force myself to eat more>try to eat a whole box of macaroni>stuff myself and take a nap>wake up feeling sickThis fucking sucks, I can't decide if I want to bulk or try to lose more fat. Eating enough food to bulk when you don't have slop is really hard. If I go back to my diet of slop then it's easy to eat way too much.
>>77505842macaroni is slop
>>77505487Ok, so lets do the math here... An average person eats around 2,700 calories a day, which adds up to roughly 10 million calories over ten years. If someone gains just 20 pounds of fat over that decade, it sounds like a lot of extra weight, but mathematically it comes down to a tiny daily mismatch. To gain those 20 pounds, you only need an energy surplus of about 20 calories a day which is literally just a single tiny bite of food.Because tracking food labels and daily calorie burn has a huge margin of error,it is practically impossible for humans to consciously count calories with the extreme precision needed (within a 0.1% margin) to prevent this weight gain. It's all sbout hormones.
>>77505530try the drug first
>>77505850>hmm my pants are getting tight on the waist i need to lose a few pounds
>>77505850First paragraph is an utterly worthless ilrelevent statement.>Because tracking food labels and daily calorie burn has a huge margin of error,it is practically impossible for humans to consciously count calories with the extreme precision needed (within a 0.1% margin)WutYou're saying I gotta track my calories within a margin of 0.1% error which I can easily side step by overestimating the calories I've consumed or go on a large deficiet like 1000-1500 calories per day with excercise?
>>77505836Many retards do. Sugar merchants spent billions of dollars advertising it to morons.
>>77505848It's pretty low on the list of slop, it's just pasta with whey powder which is lower on the glycemic scale than plain white rice. >inb4 all carbs are bad retard chimes up
>trying to hit 200-250g protein >in a 2600 cal allotment Kill me
>>77505865he's a fatty that wants to blame his fat on hormones since fat acceptance and blaming genetics have already been played out
>>77505876Alrighr, I still believe in it regardless. See, the issue here is that I use cico for weighr loss and it works and everyone else here has tried it and worked. Everybody knows it works and I'm debating a brick wall here wondering why the fuck he hates all carbs, not a single carb must be tolerated, when it is perfectly fine and by this hyperspecialized autist somehow can't explain mirconutrients from fruit and veg is perfectly fine to ignore cause they have carbs.I'm not even that pro carbs. I think for the optimal diet, the only carb you should eat is legumes, beans and chickpeas for the minerals, protein, complex carbs and micronutrient content while ditching plain carbs like bread, rice and pasta if you want.Do you have scury, how do you get your micronutrients?
>>77505890I'm there with you, 220 is usually where I peak unless I start chugging whey
Hit 186 pounds new low. 5ft 10inch. Just broke my personal 10km run record of 52 minutes and I got a new bench one rep max of 190 pounds so I can now bench a little over my body weight.
>>77505894It doesn't work. Everyone in /fat/ that does cico ends up fat.
>>77505850#preach>Conclusions>One year after initial weight reduction, levels of the circulating mediators of appetite that encourage weight regain after diet-induced weight loss do not revert to the levels recorded before weight loss. Long-term strategies to counteract this change may be needed to prevent obesity relapse.>Results>Weight loss (mean [±SE], 13.5±0.5 kg) led to significant reductions in levels of leptin, peptide YY, cholecystokinin, insulin (P<0.001 for all comparisons), and amylin (P=0.002) and to increases in levels of ghrelin (P<0.001), gastric inhibitory polypeptide (P=0.004), and pancreatic polypeptide (P=0.008). There was also a significant increase in subjective appetite (P<0.001). One year after the initial weight loss, there were still significant differences from baseline in the mean levels of leptin (P<0.001), peptide YY (P<0.001), cholecystokinin (P=0.04), insulin (P=0.01), ghrelin (P<0.001), gastric inhibitory polypeptide (P<0.001), and pancreatic polypeptide (P=0.002), as well as hunger (P<0.001).https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1105816>>77505865he's referring to normal humans not fatties trying to lose weight>>77505892>blame his fat on hormones and he's right
>>77505925you stopped.
>>77505865go on a deficit but only eat refined carbs and tsugar thoughout the whole day. report back how much you lost. a calorie is a calorie is a calorie, right?
Broke my deficit after like 60 straight days today. Had dinner at Cheesecake Factory with my younger brother and dad for brother's birthday.If this was earlier in the journey, I'd be crashing out about how the scale is going to be off for a few days because I had such a heavy pasta dish. But now I can just be happy that I had a nice dinner with them and eat lighter for a few days and get back on track.It's kind of freeing, yknow?
>>77505937I did this one week and lost weight however I was fucking starving. Lifts were great though.
>>77505937You fucking literally will you retard, you'll just be constantly hungry and feel like shit. Do you think the average CICO user is eating like shit and going "heh, because the calories are lower I'm fine!". No that's retarded and people who do that obviously fail, but not because they've managed to find a reality glitch and ignore the laws of thermodynamics, because they break and end up overeating or binging. Most CICO people, myself included, end up eating healthier anyway because they need to be able to stay full for longer periods and ever chocolate bar is like 150 calories that fills up your daily allowance without reducing your hunger.
please respond to this poll about fastinghttps://strawpoll.com/kjn1DGNLdyQ
>>77505957Casting my obligatory vote without reading the question to skew results>>77505955Why are you responding to him? Genuinely?
>>77505955>muh thermodynamicsThermodynamics say nothing about CAUSALITY (i.e. WHY a fat cell grows or shrinks). It's just a DESCRIPTION of a system you retarded faggot. If a fat cell grows then of course it takes in more energy (calories) than it expands. The question is WHY it happens, or in other words, WHAT triggers the fat cell to grow? Does the fat cell somehow KNOW how much calories you have consumed in a day and keeps track of incoming and outgoing calories? surely not.Everything in our bodies is regulated through hormones that signal cells WHAT TO DO
>>77505964>Everything in our bodies is regulated through hormones that signal cells WHAT TO DONot mine, my body is regulated by a bunch of little guys who look like tiny versions of me working in an office building.
>>77505960>Why are you responding to him? Genuinely?Yeah you're right. Sometimes you just see a take so egregious that I start writing out a reply before it registers that it's coming from the thread schitzo. But the whole>Nooo don't reply to poopfartschitzo we all have to ignore him >Nice try but we all know you're just dickbuttschitzo samefagging again>Nooooo you retards that's just Michael pretending to be both of them, dickbuttschitzo died of a heart attack last month, we found out from his doxxed discord server>Heh, newfags. Here's an infographic. It's too pixelated to read inside 4chan because it's 40,000 words long4chan culture tiring.
>>77505955>Do you think the average CICO user is eating like shit and going "heh, because the calories are lower I'm fine!".Yeah. That's literally why CICO was invented.
>>77505957can i count less than 800 calories as fasting?
I started eating like ~200 grams of fruit a day after I saw new basedence about fruit and fiber reducing depression. This shit fruit (placebo) thing is magic.
it's really quite simple, if you're an active person, and i mean ACTIVE as in you work a manual labor job or go to the gym multiple times per week, some carbs are fine if timed around your movement needs. if you're an unemployed fat fuck or a fat fuck that sits at a desk all day carbs are just gonna make you lose weight a lot slower
>>77505999No. Stop eating food. Retard.
>lose 5 kg>goal still 20 kg to gothis is the reality of obese people. you are in a world of your own, you can barely perceive how things really are. how much you used to eat, how much food in yourself you got to burn. until then, delusion. you are much fatter than you think.
>>77505999i'm the poll maker, yeah i'd count that as fasting
>>77505955>Do you think the average CICO user is eating like shit and going "heh, because the calories are lower I'm fine!".You dumb fucking nigger. When you add nuance to CICO you get literally any other diet out there. All methods of weight loss are already some variation of exercise more, eat less. but here your dumb ass acts like they don't exist for some reason. It's just such a fundamental premise that they don't need to go over and over it like an autist that discovered the sun exists.Instead you just keep pushing for what all other diets are already doing, a premise that they have already taken into account, except without their ideas on how to make it work and then get uppity when people treat it exactly like you're presenting it, as an action without a plan.Keto is just CICO without the carbs. Fasting is just CICO without the calories. Bulking is CICO with all the calories. I can tell you exactly why keto, fasting and bulking all expect their plan to work, I cannot tell you how a CICO tard expects their buillshit to work.
>>77506033keto and fasting are fundamental metabolic changes that differ from CICO or other "diets">oh i'll just cut out some sugar but not all carbsjust a diet>oh i'll eat more proteinjust a diet>oh i'll count my caloriesjust a diet
>>77506033Wrong.
Why do fats always use excuses about their metabolism. Do they not understand the laws of thermodynamics. So tired of that dumb shit.
>>77506064retard>>77505964>>77505964>>77505964
>>77506068>my body will magically produce energy and then store it in my fat cells that doesn't come from anywhere. It just magically appears even if I don't eat
>>77506041Good thing GLP1s solved this.
>>77506064There's probably an inherited component to hunger regulation, fullness feeling etc. which contributes to how much food someone feels the need to hoover up. Plus many food producers slop their products to make them less filling and at the same time more tasty. Using 'metabolism' as an excuse is just using an important sounding word.
Every time I check this thread ketoschizo is looping. I'm convinced it's a bot.
>>77506082the fuck are you talking about
>>77506102yeah...by altering your metabolismhttps://x.com/jens_lund/status/2095179359145353492
>>77506082nah. your body will lower your base metabolic rate until your cold and/or can't move anymore
>>77506033Okay then what the fuck are we arguing about. Who on this board is such a CICO purist they're unironically telling people to count calories and do NOTHING else. Noon. You're fighting ghosts. I count my calories and ensure my daily amount is lower than my TDEE, I also am generally eating less shit- including carbs- because they fill the meter faster. What am I? What value is added to the conversation by saying "no you're not CICO because you aren't having chocolate for every meal". We choose to label things into categories for purely practical reasons. You coming coming along and going>Erm that's not red that's actually roseAdds nothing.>>77506041Kek.
>>77506130You're actually retarded. No fat person has ever died of starvation.
>>77506140it's not about death. it's about hormones pushing the body to stay fat. somehow.pay attention to the secpnd paragraph and try to explain why fatter people require less energy than lean and lower weight counterlarts and less energy than what they should be spending according to their size.>The obese and control subjects required comparable caloric intakes: 1432 +/- 32 kcal/m2/d vs 1341 +/- 33 kcal/m2/d, respectively. Following weight loss, the reduced-obese subjects required only 1021 +/- 32 kcal/m2/d, a 28% decrease (P less than 0.001) in requirements relative to their obese state and a 24% decrease relative to the control patients (P less than 0.001)>The mean individual energy requirement of the reduced-obese subjects (2171 kcal/d) was less than that for the control subjects (2280 kcal/d) despite the fact that they still weighed 60% more than the controls. In order to maintain a reduced weight, some reduced-obese or even partially reduced patients must restrict their food intake to approximately 25% less than that anticipated on the basis of metabolic body size. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6694559/
>tfw hot and horny despite being on a deficitfastingbros, you're on to something.
nothing against keto, im on it and it just werks, but the constant keto dickriding is annoying
>>77506148>following weight loss>starve yourself into autophagy to get rid of inefficient cells with damaged mitochondria>end up requiring 25% less energy to stay alive thanks to efficiency improvements>ACK!! THIS ISN'T WHAT I WANTED!!!Yeah fasting tards really do be like that.
>>77506000I like to sit outside and eat fruit.Return to monke
I am going to gain weight again until my gyno blends in like it used to
Anyone want to share what they eat to lose weight?
>>77506223Nothing
>>77505596because they see him reposting the same shit over and over, and everyone dismissing him as a schizo.
>>77506018this. I already lost 11kg, but I just realize that I need to lose at least 20kg more at least.Used to though that my current weight would be fine
>>77506223I eat nothing or 5 eggs a day.
>>77506223Abusing the shit out of Chia Seeds so I feel full + fibers
>>77506184now explain the hunger hormones remaining high and satiety hormones remaining low after a year of weight loss from this one >>77505931
>>77506263The thing I'm wondering is does keto advocates cico advocates fasting advocates or anyone else have any evidence in the form of some kind of study that shows that this metabolic shift upon weight loss doesn't happen BUT ONLY IF you use their specific diet. Because until that happens posting things like these just seem like posting demoralizing brutal blackpills in a thread like this.
I wouldn't say I've intentionally set out to do some intermitten fasting but that seems to be where I'm at focusing on one large meal a day. I'm trying to avoid snacking but I noticed later in the day even after I've eaten I've got some impulse to eat even though I don't exactly feel hungry.
>>77506223anything with high fiber content and low glycemic index
>>77506289You're just fat, anon. Happens to all of us. After a while, it goes away.
>>77506289Old habits need a long time to get rid of.
Weight goes downAround 2 kilos to goReminder that WAGMI
>>77506223Breakfast: 60g oatmeal + 1 scoop protein powderLunch and dinner: 150g boiled potatoes, 100g vegetables, 20g pickled turnips, 100g chicken or beefTotal is like 1100-1200 calories and you don't have to starve while losing weight. It was working but then my weight lifting stalled out so now I'm eating more. Probably should have ate some cheese since that diet had zero fat.
Healthy food lowkey a scam because you can eat 1800 calories of "good" food and you feel like you’re gonna faint and dizzy but the moment you eat a bag of hot Cheetos you feel great
>>77506377T. eating salad with barely any meat.
You know how the Simpsons always makes fat jokes about Homer and he's seen as unthinkably obese? He's only 239 pounds.
>>77506393that was fat back then.
day 251
>>77506393The Simpsons barely ever make fat jokes anymore in the more recent seasons, and even if they did theyre a lot more tounge and cheek and ironic about it cause realistically Homer isnt even THAT fat anymore, hes average even, and making fun of fat people is seen as too mean or something idk
>>77505555king on the right
>>77506223High satiety whole foods. Basically means a lot of meat (fatty cuts of beef), chicken thighs, plenty of eggs, avocado in olive oil, cheddar cheese, greek yogurt and the odd tbl spoon of peanut butter (the real kind not the kraft shit loaded with sugar). Sardines now and then. I also have sauerkraut with my dinner for a serving of veggies I've been doing this for around a year and lost 40kg. I go to the gym a lot though too which obviously helps. I don't restrict my calories i just eat till i feel satisfied
>>77506223>brekkie fibre toast + pb2 and coffee ( w/ 200 ml milk )>1500 ml water>650 ml iced tea (black, oolong, hojicha, 普洱茶 etc.)>dinnersome protein, some veggies + protein smoothie (includes spinach/greek yoghurt etc.) + 1500 ml waterthis is what i've been doing generally and it's been working well for me>>77506254i've been wanting to try making chia seed puddings... i've seen so many good recipes.
>>77506223Things on the top right of this chart will make you feel fuller for fewer calories.
I'm getting tired of dieting. I want to eat like shit and smoke weed again.
a few more months and i can see my dick
54kg down 18kg left
At what point do you decide to buy new clothes?
>>77506588Seasonal change
>>77506588when the fold in the pants is too visible
Bros I'm so fucking hungry rn. I am going to eat ice.
>>77506217Retard, just get surgery instead.
>>77506125me on the left
>>77506275i haven't looked up the subject deeply or even skimmed through this study>Ghrelin was significantly lower in participants assigned to the low carbohydrate diet compared with those assigned to the high carbohydrate diet (both analyses). Leptin was also significantly lower in participants assigned to the low carbohydrate diet (per protocol).>Conclusions>Consistent with the carbohydrate-insulin model, lowering dietary carbohydrate increased energy expenditure during weight loss maintenance. This metabolic effect may improve the success of obesity treatment, especially among those with high insulin secretion.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6233655/
>>77505487Has anyone here tried Inulin?Any results with it?
Do you guys fear damaging your liver by losing fat too quickly?
>>77506400How are the newer seasons? I stopped watching Simpsons more than a decade ago
>>77506658no
>>77506653I have and its bretty gud imo. Its literally one for one with gram to fiber and unlike psylliium husk it tastes like nothing and doesn't turn to good. Issue is you can only take like 5 grams a day unless you wanna risk shitting yourself doubling that daily portion
>>77506216>Starting Strength?Yes.
>>77506662Its written by Simpson fans who were fans of the Simpsons while it was written by Simpsons fans so take a guess what its like.
>>77506393At 6' as well, by todays standards that pretty average.
>>77506393>>77506394>>77506706Even for early 90s standards that doesn't sound too out of the norm tbdesu.
I think rolling 48s might be the way. Let me try it and see if it works. Cuz OMAD sucks
>>7750622380/20 beef patties. Cheese. Sauerkraut.Anything without carbs is good.
>>77506401Yeah he's beautiful at any size. He should keep eating carbs and stay 500lbs. /fat/ is for /fat/ acceptance now.
>>77506823B A S E D
>>77506223Every day I eat different. You should learn to enjoy your new permanent diet not hack a short term one.
>>77506823Great, now the ketoschizo will have new material
Fatshinji287.8
>>77506658Even if you slightly damage it, it will repair itself quickly after your weight loss journey is over. If anyone else tells you otherwise, they are retarded.
>>77506223I eat everything. I just eat a lot less of it
>>77506658I was literally told by my doctor to lose it or my liver will be fucked.
>>77506393>only 239
The last 3 days I've been sick I've been over my calories. Last night was fine until mom made cinnamon rolls and I had two... i just couldn't resist the soft warm sweetness while I feel like shit
>>77506871at 6', that's only 32.4 BMI and one can easily hit 30.
>>77506833Whose arm do you think it is a picture of?
>>77506888post body
Hit a new low of 185.4 lbs this morning. Now for breakfast I had a large meal with 94g of protein and 800 calories. My lunch will be tiny and I have .8 lbs of rox sole planned for dinner. Is having all that protein at once bad or does it not matter as long as I fit my protein within 24 hrs?
>>77506658>>77506663>>77506844>>77506850>While non-alcoholic steatohepatitis is a slowly progressive disease, patients may rarely present in acute liver failure. We describe six patients who developed severe hepatic dysfunction following rapid weight loss or malnutrition. Rapid weight loss (18 to 91 kg) occurred after Roux-en-Y gastric bypass in four patients and starvation-like dieting or hypoalbuminemia was noted in two patients. Four patients either died or received an urgent liver transplant.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5935795/
>>77506920You're telling me losing weight too fast will destroy my liver somehow not the 3 years of heavy drinking and then a diet of a litre of vodka a day for a year which repaired itself after a year when I quit drinking for good.
So does weight loss (in a sustainable manner) improves sperm amd fertility quick or is it like the body needs to maintain it for a while?
losing weight + weight lifting makes me super horny.This is coming from a guy who used to able to hold it out for months with meditation.
>>77506926i get extremely horny during my arm workouts
>>77506920are you female?the female body dies if it doesnt get a ton of food every day, thats different from the male body
>>77506926Fat people with a lot of weight to lose shouldn't suffer any of the hormone cratering that happens when you're around 10% bodyfat and trying to get leaner Fasting/cutting to leanness will drop your test to castrate levels
>>77506938Are you saying I cant be super lean and energetic, and super fertile like a chad anime character?
>>77506938I guess it's the increase in test from working out.
>>77506920>gastric bypass>starvation-like dietso literally nothing of relevance
>>77505957bumping in case anyone missed it and wants to respond. thank you for your cooperation.
>>77506949Just be 10-15% for optimized testosterone and immune function etc. 15% definitely feels a lot chubbier than 10% but as long as you're in that range it's probably more worth your time to eat at surplus and train hard. 10% is lean, practically speaking, and you can be energetic and fertile at 10% easily. I was talking about getting below 10%. If you absolutely have to see what you look like shredded then yeah have a blast. But your sex drive is going to tank and you'll probably feel neurotic and like complete shit. >>77506951Exercise and fatigue is a very potent aphrodisiac
>>77506223Breakfast a few days ago, 470 calories and 43g protein Tasted amazing!
>>77507024cottage cheese pancakes? yum
>>77507024your blood sugar and insulin levels after this "breakfast"
>>77507026Oat flour!Here's the recipe if you want it.>>77507029The dish is literally just yogurt and oats. I did use a 0 calorie sweetener but only 20g or so
We got Christmas treats in storesBulking season officially started And we all are on a cut;_;
I want chinese hotpot...but must lose weight...
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>>77506925idk but it does improve the pp noticeably proportionally to the weight lost immediately
>>77507035>oatsanon, i....
>>77507035can almond milk be replaced with normal milk or would something come out wrong?
>>77507024>oats>syrup>fruit
>>77507118Its just there to lower the calorie count, you can any type of milk really>>77507119>>77507117Carbs are fine, everything is good in moderation.
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>>77507140>Carbs are fine, everything is good in moderation.Wrong. Carbs, especially refined carbs, are hormone disruptors. Nobody would say cigarettes "in moderation" are fine too
>>77507147I'm happy with my diet and how my weight loss is going, thank you for your concern friend.
>>77507149
We talked about the liver being damaged during the weight loss journey but what about heart health? Could that get damaged? Could you get a heart attack from eating too little?
18 pounds left to hit 200. Originally I was 310. Were gonna make it lads.
i'm a little ways into the "healthy" bmi range now (~23.5) but still look rather bad because i have way below average muscle mass and a lot of fat around my midsection (been lifting on and off but not enough to have already resolved this problem). i don't want to set my sights too high for how much muscle i'd have to put on to be able to recomp to, say, 15-18% bodyfat, so i'm thinking of setting my gw at 21.75 bmi, the exact middle "healthy" bmi, at which point i'll start to eat at maintenance and work more seriously on recomping. anyone have any thoughts? i'm basically unsure at what maximum weight it's realistic to think you can recomp to be lean if your current build is a complete skinnyfat skeleton
>be 270lbs earlier this year>just gotta get to 249lbs, i'll be way happier>get to 249lbs>nothing happens, everything feels the same>just gotta get to 229lbs, i'll be way happier>get to 229lbs>nothing happens, everything feels the same>just gotta get under 200lbs, i'll be way happier>get to 199lbs>nothing happens, everything feels the same>187lbs now>just gotta get to 175 to hit my goalS-Surely I'll finally be happy, right?
>>77507149You will regain the weight for certain. Probably won't even hit your goal weight.
>>77507206I'm sorry is this the keto cunt now trying to demoralize the /fat/ thread now because he eats carbs?
>>77507217I'm explaining how CICO "works" (it doesn't). You get a temporary drop in weight, your metabolism tanks, and you regain weight. This is consistently proven even by people in this thread. See pic related here for example: >>77505925CICO is the cause of obesity. America pioneered CICO and as soon as everyone believed in calorie restriction the obesity epidemic happened.Go ahead and figure out the hard way. After you regain weight you can still get lean by quitting carbs. Better late than never.
>>77506223lately alot of squash/pumpkin/gourd of various speciestoday I ate spaghetti squash, alone it has about 200cal for 1.5 pounds, another 200-300 for the saucelater today I'm having a small sandwich. another 300-400 cal.
Can you at least not demoralize the /fat/ties in this thread with your innane bullshit? Dieting is demoralizing as it is already without your autism shitting up the thread.
>>77507203As someone who was 280 lbs last year and am now 185 lbs, I didnt start really feeling it and noticing it until 200 lbs (5ft 10in). Paper towel roll effect. Each pound is more impressive the lower you go. I legit feel a lot more athletic and fit and look good in clothes now. I for for a 5k run usually everyday.
>>77507103Yeah my dick looks so much larger when flaccid and erect now. It is nice.
This heat is making me want beers on the weekends. I haven't smoked weed in 4 months but I feel like wanting to get back on it just to feel high and carefree. I'm only 7 weeks into my diet.
>>77506931It... doesnt no.
>>7750688430 is obese. 25 is overweight. 24 is acceptable but... probably chubby. 22-23 is the true acceptable. These days though everyone's so greasy and bloated that 27 BMI is considered skinny and svelte. The arms, the hands, that doughy look all over her abdomen, the fatty thighs with zero lean mass. You might wanna fuck sure, she might technically be 24bmi sure, she may not have a hanging gut sure, but she's chubby.
>>7750720617kg down and 3 to go, again, thank you for your concern.
>>77507322>>77507152
>>77507259It could be depression but I've cut cigs, alcohol, and haven't smoked weed in a year and a half I just eat 7200 calories a week and fast every other day I still pound coffee but I feel like I don't want those things and how bad the world is getting is motivating me to avoid all the vices that controls me. Still love playing video games tho. Down 27lbs in the last 2 months
SylveonXGlaceon Day 4/10 of OMAD completeHonestly it feels like she hasn't had to alter her schedule that much. But she's noticing change, so much less consumption every day. She can only eat so much every day when she time restricts herself like she has. >>77504208Rice and chicken liver >>77504314>they have been puppets of grainslop eating Russians and ChineseModern day Mongolians are cannibals that eat their neighbors? Why is the first time she's hearing about this on a fitness subsection of an anime hobbyist site? This sounds entirely made up. @grok is this true?>>77504533Try having thoughts about other thingsFor her recently it's been AI chatbot (E)RP that she's mixing with a long ongoing story she's been writing and thinking about off and on for about 10 years now. Before that it was a lot of fire emblem fates build ideas running through her head. Coding or drawing are also nice, as well as writing this doesn't involve AI. It doesn't matter your skill level at any of these the point isn't to hone a skill or earn money or fame from a side hustle it's to entertain your mind so you don't eat food. Whatever you can find that'll calm the voices that tell you to eat, that you feel like you can continue to do at the very least until you finish your diet. >>77505596Welcome to 2026 4chan. Poopdickschizo is lurking in every thread and if you post out of line then they'll accuse YOU of being poopdickschizo. >>77505645You gain more than it costs to process the calories but yeah protein out of the 3 macros takes the most energy to process. About 20-30% of the amount of calories protein is worth will be used in processing protein but you're still 70-80% net positive in the intake, it doesn't just go to 0.
>>77505890Follow your dreams
140.0 lbsLet's fucking go
>>77507533Skeleton or 4'10''?
>>77507541Skinnyfat :( not even close to being a skeleton
>start dieting and losing weight>3 weeks later my yt feed is spammed with videos like EAT A SPOON OF PEANUT BUTTER EVERY NIGHT AND YOUR FAT WILL MELT AWAY
What do you guys think about burritos? just basic ones with some rice/beans/lean meat and no cheese and stuff, veggies too and some hot sauce.
Anyone else have high tdee?I'm eating 3200 calories a day for nearly a month and still lost 1kg total. If i had to eat more I'd almost be force feeding myself. I don't want to lose more weight I'm already 12% bf
>>77507153electrolytes imbalance can cause cardiac arrest so don't ignore muscle cramps
>>77507199start lifting now. maximize protein while in a deficit. building muscle takes a long time.
>>77507620You're not eating 3200 calories a day, skinnyfag
>>77507611home made are fine. restaurants vary wildly in their mayo and oil application.
>>77507628i am. i track everything i eat in myfitnesspal. even weigh the oil i use to cook
I finally dropped below 200 pounds, bros. I haven’t eaten anything in 24 hours and I feel great.
>>77507633post body
>>77507646nice
>>77507648Last time I did I was accused of larping, so nah
Just got back from the gym>benched 60kg for 12 reps 3 sets for the first time after 4 months of lifting>feelsgoodman>dinner of baked sweet potato, ground beef and cottage cheesebout to go for a walk to digest this yummy food and call it a night, man i feel so good lifting and eating clean. 10kg to go.
>>77505487Worried about my penis size. Im 335lbs. I have ED for the most part and my size has shrunk. I was actually above average at around 7x6 when I was 190. Now With viagra even bone pressed I can barely get over 5 inches and my flaccid is tiny. I feel like theres going to be some permanent shrinkage even if i lose this weight : (
>>77507767Just to clarify I started at 375. Diet has been consistent but exercise has not. by Feburary and I couldnt even get an erection
>>77507646congratulations! that's amazing
>>77507767
How do you guys feel about protein bars? Do you consoom them or are they not better than candy bars?
>>77507898goyslop. eat meat and dairy for protein. if you need a sweet treat have some good quality 70% dark chocolate, better for you and not goyslop. or keep being a good goy.
>>77507898majority are just ultra processed food. basically a generic candy bar with some whey put in. some have even worse shit like maltodextrin. in a lot of cases you're just better off having a snickers and a protein drinki will say though that these are amazing:>https://fibre-boost.com/about/doesn't seem to be anything too bad in them
>>77507767>I feel like theres going to be some permanent shrinkage even if i lose this weightthere won't be. just lose the weight.
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>>77506658>be fat>have fatty liver>lose fat>do not have fatty liverIt's easy as that.
>Went from 350 pounds at 6'2 to 190 pounds between 2024 and late 2025>Finally getting close to 175 after months of stagnationAt that weight i should look into getting skin removal for my abdomen. Upper legs look shit too but doesn't matter too much. Rest of my body look fine.
>>77507767Penis shrinking is basically impossible unless you troon out and even then it's easily reversibleDo some pelvic floor exercises, relax, let your body accommodate to the weight loss
>>77507898Literally useless, just eat real food. Only time I have them is on day excursions or if I forget to grab my lunch or something.
>>77505618You have to realize you aren't helping your own case though right? Like you're not gonna get people on keto like this. People come into the thread, see 50 posts about the "ketoschitzo" and someone going against decades of medical understanding and common sense to say "yeah eating less energy than you use won't make you lose weight" and dismiss the entire (legitimate) diet as a pseudoscience. If you were cool about it and not a complete fucking spaz you probably could have got the general to be much more keto-friendly.
Gave in to the demons and had a pb&j + glass of milk for dinner, crazy how many calories that shit actually is, I'm not too concerned about going over since I think I've depressed my metabolism and need to eat a little more.On the plus side I visibly look better in the mirror than I did a few days ago, I feel like scale weight and visible weight come off at different times. I'll lose a total of like 7 pounds and look unchanged but then gain 1 pound and look way better, shit's weird.
>>77508157Happy cirno day
>>77508133>6'2>getting close to 175bwo? 190 should be plenty lean for that height if you're liftingand congrats for making it
>>77508159You too bro
>>77506223Ez af just poach chicken for 10, add pasta for eight, then veg for 2 and drain it
>do nothing>lose weightWow that was hard
>did stairs >feel like i'm going to faint and all shaky waostairs have hands...
>>77508273I used to be panting and out of breath walking up two flights of stairs. Today I can run up them with only a small heart rate increase. A month ago I walked up one of those tourist places with 500+ steps up a mountain and while I was panting and a little sweaty at the top I didn't stop or slow down during the ascent and I recovered within a minute or so. I used to need to lay on my back and roll side to side like a turtle to get up, now I use my knee and my hand and push myself up in one go. It gets better if you stick with it.
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So, it happened again. I weigh less than the average American wahmenI’m locked in and still have some weight to shedt. Manlet
i should find a way to measure my gut properly. i think it looks smaller whenever i look at it but tape and weight measurements say it's the same.makes me think the upper and lower parts are slowly getting smaller but not the middle. >>77508418keep it up, manletbro.
My work is having a pizza party tomorrowWish me luck
>>77508309that's amazing anon! it's inspiring to hear how far you've come. hope things only get better and better for you.i don't have issues just going up stairs normally but went up and down a flight for 30~ mins and 7 mins in i was knackered kekby the end of it my legs were so jelly
>>77508492you know what must be done
I'm gonna do the potato diet.I know, I know.Still gonna do it.
>>77508555you want to be fat?
>lose 10 kgs>rhr drops 10 bpm to 45i hope i didnt gave myself a heart failure and just getting fit
>>77507802kek
>>77508418>>77508491Bitchin, I mean average US name height is 5'9 so 180lbs is still obese, its literally only acceptable for 6'+ unless you're really jacked
>>77508492Bro just eat the pizzas. You're not a pro athlete or getting ready for a body show. One day isn't going to undo months of progress.
>>77508674>unless you're really jackedunless you're roiding. 6'+ can get away with it natty if they lift really hard.
>>77508737I mean 180 at 6' is like BMI 24.something so its a little chubbed for a normie (skinnyfat), but yeah. Most men should be in the 160s.
>>77508492just take your sweet ass time chewing
Number go down, me smile
>>77508720>One day isn't going to undo months of progress.unless that has been anons mantra everyday for the past months
>>77508674>is 5'9 so 180lbs is still obeseThats like 26 bmi though.
>>77508832Oh I'm sorry, his BMI is 26.6 so hes not a giga fatOh wait, we're talking average man. Which means painfulky skinnyfat and way fatter than BMI thinks. Hence the TRUE reason BMI is utter bullshit in 2026.
According to the navy calculator I reached 20%BF. still have a lot more to lose than expected.
>>77508862you talk like a fag lil bro
>>77506920Reading this actually scared the shit out of me. What do?
>>77508882isnt 20 good?
>a buffet didn't increase my weight>a random chinese dish did
Someone explain to my fatty brain why its a bad idea to binge this entire bag of jerky in one sitting.I know its a bad idea, but I can't seem to articulate a compelling argument to the fatty that lives in my head and tells me binge things like an animal.
>>77508915You'd think so but i still have a bigger than expected belly. BMI puts me right at 25
>>77508910it's not actually anything to be concerned about. it's just some data from a small handful of people that suggests a mechanism for liver damage from certain potential circumstances surrounding weight loss that most likely don't actually apply to you.what i took away from it is>don't have a gastric bypass>don't fast>try not to lose more than 1% of your body weight per week>if you're doing serious keto (i.e. actually staying in ketosis, not just a general goal to eat somewhat more protein and somewhat less carbs), consult with your doctor about it
>>77508929the sodium.look at the fucking sodium.
>>77508895You sound like a fatty that wants to stay fat. >hurrr at least I'm not as fat as I was
>>77508932So right around the edge of overweight for both, ya know what you've gotta do.
>>77508929I wanted to get beef jerky to eat for breakfast but I didn't know this shit costed so muchLiterally would rather just make myself a normal piece of beef for breakfast than pay for this
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>sweet potato rottiserie chicken and cottage cheese for lunch. idk how i used to eat shit like frozen meals and goyslop and think it was good, this right here is fucking delicioous.
>>77508946yeah, steady progress and haven't really been hungry yet so hopefully things stay smooth. I'm hoping I should be done in around 10kg/by the end of the year.I'm just a bit suprised that this is allowed to be called a healthy weight.
>>77506658Nigger I've been an alcoholic for the past 10 years if it's fucked it's already fucked anyway
>>77508492Don't eat anything but one pizza that day, you will be fine unless you're a midget woman
>>77508986redpill me on sweet taters, how do you consume them?
>>77509041i just bake them then put a little bit of grass fed butter in it. usually eat them with beef or chicken and cottage cheese. both the cottage cheese and the butter are great ways to get enough fat in your diet, the rest is good carbs and protein.
>>77506658i was in danger of getting fat liver from obesity so no not reallyi didn't even know that was a thing i thought it was alcohol only but yay modern living i guess
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>>77509019Yeah, it makes you question a lot of obesity statistics. Congrats on keeping on though
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>>77509019can't say for sure but at bmi 25 exactly, you're probably still basically healthy in terms of metabolic disease, blood pressure, mobility, etc. as opposed to most obese people. could still be fucked up cosmetically and nowhere near "thin" looking but in terms of health risks i'd figure you're doing well now
>>77508929dont eat until dinner, then eat the whole thing. should be fine if its all you eat all day.>>77508555buy soup bouillon or soup stock, it'll make your roasted potato taste great.
SylveonXGlaceon Day 5/10 completeShe didn't feel like eating today. She kinda had to force herself. Ate slop. But she was still within the bounds of OMAD so she has only slightly disappointed herself. Today she ate earlyTomorrow she'll eat late. There'll be an about 40 hour gap between eating timesShe has plans for after the 10 days of OMAD are done. But she needs to complete the OMAD before she does them.
>>77509348who tf is 'she'?
>>77508929>0 carbIt's fine.
>>77509362his tranny self is his 2nd persona, he refers to it in the third person.
>>77509362She is SylveonXGlaceon She's talking in third person because she's silly and she finds it funnyAlso she's a little mad that she forgot to attach an image. Whatever she'll post it now.
>>77509373why do u enjoy making urself an easy target :/ this feels like a form of self harm
10 pounds away from being a healthy BMII WILL MAKE IT
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>>77509533Eww
>>77509155>Accelerated >1.1 kg over two months
>>77509245This argument was very compelling to my fatty brain and I failed to prevented him from eateding the whole bag. I will not eat anything else today, that is the compromise we've agreed to.
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>>77509379this is the brown skinned ogre that frequents this general. ignore and do not engage with it as it is an attention whore.
>>77509568i mean assuming no changes in diet or exercise that'd be a cool resultbunk article from a shit journal anyway thoughi am perpetually amazed when you see studies comparing weight loss medications to calorie counting or placebo that say something like "the group assigned to calorie-restricted eating lost no weight over the trial period of (however much time)" or "lost an average of 5 lbs over a year" or something crazy low like that. is the average person just such a dumb cow that getting them to lose any meaningful amount of weight by accurately counting calories practically impossible?
>>77509593average person? yeah probablykek
I think I discovered a hack for dieting. I just eat foods I find extremely pleasurable to eat but can’t eat any more of without getting sick. I literally fast until evening and then eat a ribeye steak with a sleeve of oreos until I feel sick and I don’t want to eat for the rest of the day. Every day I’m under my calories and losing fat.
>>77509597I go like 3 months of eating like the only foods that exist are chicken and broccoli, then I have like two weeks of beer, pizza, fries, kfc, soda, candy and then go back to the strict diet. It seems to work. After the two week reset I don't wanna eat shit any more and feel like eating nothing but chicken, beef, shrimp and veg again
>>77508929>448g of jerkyYou'll shit your guts out violently after getting painful cramps. It won't even taste good after a few pieces, you'll be eating just to be eating. It's better to divide the bag up into 4 and have it over 4 days.>>77508956It's dehydrated meat, it shrinks down by like 80%. You can turn an entire steak into jerky and end up with only a handful of pieces.
>Have chicken parm and spaghetti at Cheesecake Factory with dad and brother>Split the food across two days>Weight is still up a couple days laterGoddamn how much salt was in that shit?
>>77509593Tbf normie """medical professionals""" also tend to overestimate the average Joe's TDEE while simultaneously recommending ridiculously low deficits like 200 kcal. That combined with NPCs' inability to accurately count calories results in CICO "not working for them".
>>77509607>You'll shit your guts out violently after getting painful cramps.I doubt it, as I've eaten a bag this size before with no ill effects, but I'll let you know if this happens.
speaking of shits, uh, any of you guys get the shits when you go on low carb low cal diets?zero goyslop. none. no alcoholdaily shitsmaybe i need more fibre? i just eat meat essentially
>>77509697Yes you need more fiber. I'd eat however much meat & 6oz of broccoli for lunch daily on keto and it mostly kept me consistent. At some point I genuinely started to look forward to the broccoli more than the meat.
>>77509717alright, ill up the fibre thanks
I don't get how people say its hard to stay in a deficit >1700 calories>coffee with skimmed milk in the morning>rotisserie chicken sweet potato with butter and cottage cheese for lunch and dinner>snack on some dark chocolate after my 2 hour walk for healthy fats and energy>still got calories left over so have some apple juice before i get ready for bedits just that easy. not once did i feel hungry.
>>77509825>>77509825
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>>77505596If you are unwilling to lurk for a long time to find out who tells the truth and who is baiting replies, then you don't belong on 4chan.
>>77507219LMFAO! DEADASS REPLIES WITH GRAPHS. OH BROTHER!
>>77507291I love me some chubby girls.
>>77508929As >>77508938 mentions. It's the sodium. That shit will mess up your vasculature, and make you light headed, low energy, and prone to heart attacks after sustained intake over the course of years.
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