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Excluding playing video games on them WTF where computers in the 70s and 80s used for?

Like serious question.

The capacity of them was laughable the 8-inch Floppy disk is ~242KB

>Diskettes formatted for this system stored 242,944 bytes

1 Wikipedia article page saved as ASCII text takes up 25KB at the lowest.

So 10 pages would fill that one up of pure ASCII text.

You can not store books on them.

>Much programs

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>>107749439
>an nes game
>Muh games!
For the last time I told you to exclude games.
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>>107749636
>Protective ring
> size comparison.
OK this is interesting however how does this answer my questions?

>The PKZip one is 360K but no ring.
The only thing relevant here is the size they can store.

>I've never owned an 8" floppy, those are before my time and were primarily used in minicomputers and mainframes
What did people do with them? How long of a wikipedia page in ASCII can they store?

PS: Yes wikipedia because everyone can access it, and you can pick a short or long article and say.
>10 copies of this article
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand
Or something.
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>>107749672
It is a program, and there was a shareware version. If you mailed in a check they would send you the registered version on a disk, which is what's in the picture.

>>107749699
I typically stored programs or source code on the 360K disks. Letters and other writings were also common for home users.
>8" floppies
Capacity varied by the magnetic media inside and the system it was used in, but they were like 250 KB to 1.2 MB. For the few home computers that used them, people stored about the same stuff as any other floppy. They were before hard disks were available for home computers so floppy was the best mass storage option. Minicomputers and mainframes generally had hard disks, so floppies were more for moving smaller data sets, storing individual work, installing the OS, etc.

Yeah, between 10 and 11 copies of Sand for 360K, about 7 copies for 250K, or a whopping 36 copies for 1.2M. (As measured by going to edit and copying the wiki code and text. Images not included.)

There's a very good reason people didn't start putting encyclopedias into computers until the CD-ROM drive.
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>>107731463
you didnt have that in the 70s unless you were a glowie and you didn't have that in the 80s unless you were a college grad student or a professor
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>>107749253
>Look these things are only relevant to the computer itself what real world outside things did these programs do?
Spreadsheets. Word processing. Databases. Getting data in and out of hard disks if you had an XT or similar, though those only held a few MB. Dialing in to minicomputers or mainframes to deal with larger data.

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Why is it that every time i hear of an interesting talk at ccc, pic related is the host every fucking time or they look like that?
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>>107746932
not him but i got blackpilled on trannies by watching multiple scanlation discords i was in go from actual manga and scanlation discussion to nothing but tranny nonsense. was really sad to see.
i remember the exact moment i peaked too. they were having a discussion about sissy captions and how it "cracked their egg" or whatever. there was a whole group talking about this and agreeing with it. just fucking ridiculous, and they all were obsessed with yuri too

this was multiple discords with hundreds of people each. fuck you and your obnoxious ilk for ruining one of the things i enjoyed

>Evil ahh corporations in this image lol.
just fucking leave this website already, faggot. you don't fit in here
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>>107746892

who cares if people put stuff in their butt my dude
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>>107744027
That's a man
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>>107746932
Trannyism is a fetish.
And nobody would have an issue with your fetish if you would keep it to yourself.
But nope, you have to spam and destroy things and shove it into other peoples faces.
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This thread is pathetic. Two or three trannies dumping walls of text to defend their antifa girlfriends and calling everyone else /pol/ while knowing the mods protect them. Half these fake anarchists are informants too, why do you think nothing happened after the police raids on riseup and their moneymen last year?

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Which one and why?
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>>107748548
Couldn't agree more, but I'm not falling behind. I'd much rather run kimi or deepseek locally but they're simply not as good and flat rate inference is cheaper than local or per token inference and $20/mo is about all I can afford. Until a cheaper alternative emerges, I'll use what I can afford. >>107748548
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Google wins again.
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>>107748250
If you're in college you get a free year of gemini AI pro right now if you sign up before the end of Janurary. All you need is a student email address that ends in .edu
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>>107739980
> I don't use it much so I'm not sure yet whether I'll pay for it.
I didn't use mine either until I set a shortcut for it in the browser URL bar, now I use it a lot. It has probably replaced traditional search engines for like half my queries.
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>>107726690
yea, I hate to say it because I don't like Sam Altman or any of this AI crap, but chatgpt imho is more intuitive even for small coding projects than anthropic's claude/opus/cursor/code.

I really would rather pay for grok, but grok's intelligence is just not that good (and i've tested all these on work licenses). I still don't like AI, but it really does assist for generating boilerplate code.

jeets send entire massive codebases into claude code and just let it run for 30 minutes, but I think that's dumb as a software engineer. I mainly use it for boilerplate snippets. I do all the architecting myself as I've always done, and just use use claude or chatgpt as a way of doing quick document lookups (though I verify the citations myself and write my own test vectors).

AI has sped up my coding quite a bit, even though documentation lookups are fast in editors like resharper or when using emacs with my bindings, but writing like 50 lines of boilerplate and checking it visually is a lot faster than typing out those 50 lines by hand.

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What will you do wait sissies?

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I'd love a decent, modern phone that doesn't have this faggot ass camera bump and can just lay flay on a surface again. Nobody needs this gay shit.
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these phones are people that go on outings with friends and want to take good pictures, and go on vacations to other countries and want good pictures

they're not for you
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>>107746893
>be Pixel users
>call emergency number
>nothing happens
>die
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look at this sexy completely flat piece of glass
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>>107749732
https://www.gsmarena.com/nubia_redmagic_11_pro-review-2902p5.php

As usual:
>no camera bump
>pictures not looking shit
Pick 1 (one). Can't argue with physics.
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>>107749811
what causes this tradeoff? i'm assuming the redmagic fills up the thickness with extra battery life

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Is learning this a good financial decision?
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>>107749173
>It seems like a fine notpython
That's a bit of an anachronism, Python 3 took a lot from Ruby.
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>>107749275
Yeh well, normal people use python
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>>107749091
If you don't already know an equivalent in another language, then go for it.

If you don't already know Ruby, and are learning Ruby concurrently with Rails, my biggest pieces of advice is that, if you are following tutorials or examples, learn which classes and methods of the examples are code that comes from stock Ruby, and which come from Rails' constituent libraries.
My second piece of advice is to keep in mind that Rails is organized into individual libraries, for each of the major affordances it provides:

ActionPack: Web connectivity bits: routes, controllers, request/response, param parsing.
ActionView: HTML templating and JSON rendering helpers.
ActiveModel + ActiveRecord : Models, database query builder, database migrations.
ActionMailer: Email sending.
ActiveJob: Background job abstraction.
ActionCable: Websockets
ActiveStorage: asset storage, e.g. AWS S3.
ActiveSupport: A cross-cutting utility library that also augments core Ruby classes with some useful helpers.


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>>107749091
No. Learn Java. >>107738273
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>>107749091
I remember when this was everywhere like 10 years ago and now it's rarely mentioned lol. So glad I didn't waste time on this lang

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Previous /sdg/ thread : >>107737741

>Beginner UI
EasyDiffusion: https://easydiffusion.github.io
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI

>Advanced UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
Forge Classic: https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-forge-classic
Stability Matrix: https://github.com/LykosAI/StabilityMatrix

>Z-Image Turbo
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/z_image
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo
https://huggingface.co/jayn7/Z-Image-Turbo-GGUF

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>mfw Resource news

01/02/2026

>Qwen Image 2512 System Prompt
https://huggingface.co/spaces/Qwen/Qwen-Image-2512/blob/main/app.py

>Memorization in 3D Shape Generation: An Empirical Study
https://github.com/zlab-princeton/3d_mem

>ComfyUI-Niutonian-Themes
https://github.com/Niutonian/ComfyUI-Niutonian-Themes

>Qwen-Image-2512-Turbo-LoRA
https://huggingface.co/Wuli-art/Qwen-Image-2512-Turbo-LoRA

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>mfw Research news

01/02/2026

>GARDO: Reinforcing Diffusion Models without Reward Hacking
https://tinnerhrhe.github.io/gardo_project

>Iterative Inference-time Scaling with Adaptive Frequency Steering for Image Super-Resolution
https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.23532

>SoulX-LiveTalk Technical Report
https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.23379

>AnyMS: Bottom-up Attention Decoupling for Layout-guided and Training-free Multi-subject Customization
https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.23537

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>>107749846
I forgot I genned a news pic. too late. gn

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>>107746577
>helicopters arent related to tech
WUT
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>>107749536
Manual labor wears you out faster. People working manual labor jobs have shorter lifespans.
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>>107722662
>accidentally
she wasn't into you
no normie relationship works like that
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>>107749795
>>107746577
helicopters are TECHNOLOGY and are BUILT for PLAY
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>>107749824
Everything has technology in it now, chud.

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>>107749685
It's more interesting.
You can see the computer is alive and doing things.
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>>107749685
Black screens would make people press the power button. Sleep didn't even exist until like the mid 90s.
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>>107749745
I think green blinking light and HDD noises were more than noticeable
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>>107749781
You'd be wrong.
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>>107749642
Did anybody know about it besides slavs?

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What is Steam's secret? Why is Steam so succesfull?
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He's Professor Light
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>>107749765
peepeepoopoo shit BRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP
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>>107749765
its not public owned company

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Happy new year!
Beige and Blacks on Alu FOREVER edition

Previous: >>107681160

>Keyboard recommendation template:
https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V

>Find vendors
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list // Up-to-date list of reputable vendors with brief descriptions
https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com // Tracker for current and upcoming keycap group buys

>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!
https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you know how)


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>>107749622
Maybe, maybe not. It's a good thing Geon's F1 is so popular and maybe others like Nuxros are following suit with the +84, it's good to know you can get a replacement PCB at any time instead of having some custom PCB that won't be made again. Stock USB-C accessibility with the option to add a universal daughterboard is very consumer-friendly.
I got two extra PCBs for my S100 after my Starry Black got a defective one. TKD said they'd replace it but it'll take months for my vendor to get them, oh well.
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>>107749697
Yeah, one of the biggest pros of the F1 is the level of standardization Geon uses across the F1 line
Standard PCB
Breakaway USB-C port, so you can just cut it off if you want to use a universal daughterboard
Standard viton oring
Standard SS hex flat and hex socket screws
The feet weren’t standard at first, but they basically are now since other keyboard designers started using his feet
I honestly think that even 30 years into the future, we’ll still be able to find replacement parts pretty easily
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don't know why i even bother opening these threads anymore
the levels of AIDS are getting unbearable
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>>107749762
its really gone downhill with the geon dickriding trannyposter
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>>107749622
bikini plates are cool and all but pogo pins sucks so much ass

>puts bread on the table
>makes inexperienced /g/ trannies seethe
>makes C shart shills seethe
Yeah I'm thinking it's the best language
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>>107749749
>it's just muscle memory
That's what I said. I like how you literally can't stop yourself reacting mindlessly over and over again.
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>>107749800
I'm just referring to retard tier posts like yours. Just hate with no arguments or substance. Thanks for proving you have nothing to contribute. Opinion discarded. Now kill yourself nigger.
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>>107749816
>I'm just referring to retard tier posts like yours
>>107739302
>Modern Java solves all these problems.
Ok, what "problems" are listed in my post? kek
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>>107749826
sneed and dial8
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>>107749835
So what were you referring to again? :^)
I also like how the pinnacle of your attempt to defend Java ended up being "just use Kotlin if you want a language that isn't shit".

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>>107568585
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."
--Edward Snowden

>Cyberpunk
The FAQ: https://sizeof.cat/post/cyberpunk-faq/
What is /cyb/erpunk?: https://pastebin.com/pmn9vzWZ
How do I into /cyb/erpunk?: https://pastebin.com/5tpNFQds
Huge list of cyberpunk media: https://sizeof.cat/post/cyberpunk/
The cyberdeck: https://pastebin.com/7fE4BVBg
Cyberlife: https://jinteki.industries/files/cyberlife.7z
Bibliothek: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4m5hd2065hde8/Bibliothek

>Privacy
Tools: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/

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>>107731124
I'm getting real sick and tired of technology senpai.
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>>107747175
you could have fun and run your own BTS, but instead you are here lamenting the tech. why?
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>>107679087
>>107748938
how the fuck is this literal fucking spam not removed?
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>>107749725
Because it's useful.
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>>107695423
>>107696738
You can still get Japanese tech, like Sony phones. I don't know where they're made though. Could be China, or India, or Vietnam, or something like that.

>You could fix pretty much everything from there trivially compared to shit from the USA and Europe.
Maybe that will change in the coming years. The EU is requiring that smartphones sold in its market, from 2027 if I remember right, must have an easily replaceable battery. I think that's a good step.

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So what actually happens inside the computer when you compile and execute a program
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I COME FROM THE NET
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>>107749715
your executable is loaded into memory, the instruction pointer is pointed to wherever the EXE file header directs it, and then execution of your program starts

I just bought a 32Gib 512nvme i7-9850H quadro t1000 with a 4k panel for $400 on eBay (and uncle sam fucked me for 40 in taxes and 20 in shipping)--and I am regretting it and wish I bought the cheaper $330 1080p 48gib option but bought this one because I thought that the 4k panel might be good since 1080p is a bit bad for split screen latex but am now regretting it since it will
- Drain battery faster (might take up 20% extra)
- Be a pain to use because I will be forced to set it to 200% scaling for a good experience with my external 1080p monitors (probably, I have never used 4k but xorg will likely strangle me too)
- Cost more
- Doesn't have as much ram
- At 15.6" and normal sitting, I probably won't ever notice

I don't think it has been shipped yet but also don't want to try to return it since that might make me an asshole...I will have to go check if the seller even accepts returns...

I am really crying over this...why is life so hard?
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>>107743715
You should probably take a bit of time to think about your life and where you're actually at, what you really need, and what's actually important to you. Gender and mental health labels aren't a substitute for that.
Here's one thing that isn't examined: $70 is a lot, but $400 for a laptop with hardware you don't even need isn't? It doesn't make any sense.
Also, your mom isn't actually close to being homeless at all? In fact, you think she might even have home ownership in her future. I think you have no real clear idea how your mom is doing financially, and you're just saying whatever feels right for whichever post.
A lot of wishy washy thinking with no real basis in anything.
>$ free -ht
Doesn't really mean much. Programs will often expand out into however much memory you have. If you had more memory, you would see more memory used even with the same programs open.
>life insurance
Insurance always has negative expected value. Put your money elsewhere at this point in your life. If you examine how things are with your mom and find they really are bad, give it to her. You don't need to use tone indicators here either. They make you look stupid.
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>>107749336

>You should probably take a bit of time to think about your life and where you're actually at, what you really need, and what's actually important to you.
How shall this be determined? I know not what career I even want to go into, as per an earlier post. Should anything but not being a leech to society and those around me be valued? I legitimately am unsure of what I care about nor do I know how to understand it; I merely exist, sans comprehension of my emotions.

>Gender and mental health labels aren't a substitute for that.
I don't think of myself as merely a set of labels; labels are just useful for describing to others how I feel without needlessly describing what they can infer through said labels. It is vastly more conveniently to note one is "likely trans" than fulling explaining the entirely of the emotions, experiences, and thoughts that are the reasoning--even more so given this is inherently a shorted lived conversation on a board where transness and questing one's life is not the main focus.

>Here's one thing that isn't examined: $70 is a lot, but $400 for a laptop with hardware you don't even need isn't? It doesn't make any sense.
$70 wasted on something that I have no good use for is different than were there is good use. I will need a laptop at some point in the coming future. Yes, I could get something cheaper--I would still be able to make it work even if annoying. The $400 that was originally thought was with the intent of selling my current desktop and solely using the laptop to replace it, meaning that the cost would have been offset. This is still valid through and is making me be further dissuaded from getting anything at this point.

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>>107749336
>>107749640

[cont.]

>>$ free -ht
>Doesn't really mean much. Programs will often expand out into however much memory you have. If you had more memory, you would see more memory used even with the same programs open.
Fire fox will crash if I don't watch its ram usage--it won't simply stop using memory to cache things and whatnot. I am well aware that Linux is liberal in its caching usage when nothing else is using ram. I should also try setting up zram but was avoiding that to make it feel any more latent in usage.

>>life insurance
>Insurance always has negative expected value. Put your money elsewhere at this point in your life. If you examine how things are with your mom and find they really are bad, give it to her. You don't need to use tone indicators here either. They make you look stupid.
This was said in response to the tone of the post I was replying to--it was not meant as an endorsement of getting life insurance as a long term investment but rather as part of a (somewhat more) responsible suicide plan. This was also partly in jest given that suicide isn't typically covered for young people and often requires many years of already being on a plan, which at its lowest would line up with the previously mentioned two year goal of either being in a better place in life or rm -rfing myself with a hope of not causing too many problems for others. I included the tone indicator precisely to indicate that I was not flatly referring to doing so as an investment. (NB: I do find tone indicators quite stupid in most cases though.)

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>>107749336
>>107749640
>>107749648

[cont.]

>Also, your mom isn't actually close to being homeless at all? In fact, you think she might even have home ownership in her future.
Being able to get a mortgage and spend the rest of one's life working to get a cheap house is vastly different than being able to buy a good home in full cash.

>I think you have no real clear idea how your mom is doing financially, and you're just saying whatever feels right for whichever post.
I have been providing what I feel is most accurate in each post--even if awkward phrasing making it seems conflicting--however, I can provide allow the information I have available to me. She is below poverty and qualifies for food shelves if that adds clarity.
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>>107733509
>I am really crying over this...why is life so hard?
You are fine. It isn't that much of a difference.


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