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/lmg/ - a general dedicated to the discussion and development of local language models.

Previous threads: >>107614830 & >>107604598

►News
>(12/17) Introducing Meta Segment Anything Model Audio: https://ai.meta.com/samaudio
>(12/16) MiMo-V2-Flash 309B-A15B released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/blog/mimo-v2-flash
>(12/16) GLM4V vision encoder support merged: https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/18042
>(12/15) Chatterbox-Turbo 350M released: https://huggingface.co/ResembleAI/chatterbox-turbo
>(12/15) llama.cpp automation for memory allocation: https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/discussions/18049

►News Archive: https://rentry.org/lmg-news-archive
►Glossary: https://rentry.org/lmg-glossary
►Links: https://rentry.org/LocalModelsLinks
►Official /lmg/ card: https://files.catbox.moe/cbclyf.png

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>>107628973
I think the MI300 needs some special datacenter connector rather than PCIe.
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>>107631025
Yes it does, and it comes included with the deal I have been offered.
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>>107630995
nta but rocinante is dumb
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>>107627862
Llama 4 Maverick Experimental is still different from the ones that were being tested on LMArena before the Llama 4 release. Those didn't appear to have any baked-in "safety", they just relied on LMArena moderation, which you could more or less easily (with some creativity) bypass. Eventually Meta added additional API level-moderation for cunny, but the models were still pretty much uncensored. They did ramble a lot but the responses were fun.
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>>107630271
It's just grandma RP.

I keep telling myself faggot you are a grown man, earning big salary, be a man and not a kid anymore and buy a good respectable automatic watch
but this thing that looks like a kids toy I have on my wrist is pure perfection of engineering and utility and usability
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>>107630976
Yeah I'm really happy with it. Grab one when they're on sale if you can. Super cheap and durable.
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>>107630976
When I was in China all their best brands were focusing on analog/mechanical, they already kill it in that field
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>>107630976
They improve on some stuff but are still miles behind on other. Their modules lack features and almost all of them have shitty viewing angles. Water proofing is a gamble. The most important downside, imo, is their quartz movements are less precise then casios.
They're good for 10 dollars but in case of ops watch why bother if you can get the original for 30.
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>>107631096
You are aware that the "original" is made in China also?
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>>107631106
So what?

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What's wrong with 24/7 AI surveillance and mandatory digital ID for web browsing and computer/phone access if it decreases crime and human suffering?
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>>107628374
>bro just let me put my finger in your ass
>bro if you have nothing to hide, what's the big deal?
>bro what if you have colorectal cancer?
>bro its for your safety
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>>107628851
These concerns exist regardless of AI. The AI is simply more advanced monitoring, like the introduction of surveillance cameras was. It will send data to the police who use their discretion to decide what to do. And "wrong place at wrong time" is actually less likely when you are 24/7 tracked.
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>>107628374
The argument for total surveillance often relies on Utilitarianism—the idea that safety for the majority justifies the loss of privacy for the individual. However, critics argue this creates a "pyrrhic victory" where the cost of safety is the loss of what makes society worth living in.
1. The Psychological Cost: "Social Cooling"
When people know they are watched 24/7, they undergo social cooling. They stop taking risks, exploring "fringe" ideas, or behaving eccentrically. This creates a society of forced conformity, stifling the innovation and dissent necessary for social progress.
2. Function Creep & Political Control
Surveillance tools rarely stay within their original scope. A system built to stop "crime" can easily be repurposed to:
* Suppress Dissent: Identifying and silencing political rivals or whistleblowers.
* Enforce Social Credit: Throttling web access or freezing funds based on "civic behavior" or legal but "unpopular" opinions.
3. The "Honeypot" Risk
Mandatory digital IDs create a single point of failure.
* Security: If a central database is hacked, every aspect of your life (medical, financial, social) is compromised at once.
* Algorithmic Error: If an AI "glitches" and flags you incorrectly, you could be "deleted" from society—unable to work, communicate, or buy food—with no human recourse.
4. Loss of Human Dignity
Philosophically, total surveillance treats humans as objects to be managed rather than autonomous beings. It assumes everyone is a "pre-criminal" and removes the "Right to be Forgotten," meaning a single mistake can follow a person forever, preventing redemption.
> Summary: While crime might drop, the result is a "Goldfish Bowl" society—safe, but devoid of the privacy, anonymity, and freedom required for a healthy, evolving democracy.
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>>107628374
This has increased my suffering due to stress
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>>107628374
>if it decreases crime and human suffering
lmao

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I haven't changed this open loop coolant in 8+ years.
You fags claimed it would go bad or something.
It's fine.
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>>107630369
I won't doxx myself
I'm an important racist.
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>>107630285
My H110i went on for 7 years before the pump failed. Now I just do the common sense thing and use a PA.
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>>107630364
You should have been a p diddy defence lawer
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>>107630322
>>107630338
>My original loop was using distilled water friend. That's the one that got gunked up.
Well, yes. Distilled water is incredibly corrosive. Use the clear and specialized coolants currently available and you won't have to change it unless air gets into your loop consistently. They've already solved this problem for you.
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>>107630322
just use vodka.
alcohol is a better coolant.

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>>107630134
Lol at the X
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>>107629693
That's actually a thing. And many call them exactly that, x-ray fish.
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>>107630208
Well damn
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>>107630198
If you actually click on the dedicated download button you get a much higher res image, assuming you were using nano banana pro
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>>107630044
This proves chatgpt is pure xyloid COAL

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Why did America outsourced parts of its tech industry?
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>>107628323
I mean in essence he's not wrong. Culturally the US is much easier going than places like China or whatever. There's less focus on STEM subjects, and a lot of our schools are getting progressively dumbed down.

But he's a scammer faggot who got rich off rug pulling.
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>>107629221
But is that not what Americans have? Their own government seems to actively support their largest corporations. Changing policy to benefit them rather than trying to break up their several dozen monopolies to promote better competition. Which would be a more true capitalist approach to things, and healthier for the overall economy.
I don't know. I don't think it's going to be good for Americans until they move past their seeming worship of corporations.
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>>107628323
Because they want slaves that are easily controllable and will do anything and everything that's asked from them else they get jettisoned back to their shithole country.
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>>107628323
>Why did America outsourced parts of its tech industry?
If you look at most of these jeeted IT companies they have lots of ex-mossad and israelis on the board of directors. they outsourced to keep Americans away from their surveillance apparatus.
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>>107628323
Jeets are so fucking disgusting. This guy's created a billion dollar scam through fake pharma company pump and dump. He needs to get his asset taken and then deported

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>>107630614
*if you're poor
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>>107629857
It kinda does become meaningless for contrast ratios beyond a certain point. As it inversely describes minimum brightness, a halving of minimum brightness equates to a doubling of contrast ratio. At some point, minimum brightness is so low that any additional halving results in an imperceptible change in the actual image whatsoever but an exponentially increasing number on the box.
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>>107630710
Literally why I upgraded to 11 from 10, when I bought my OLED.
Same shit Windows wise and looks, feels and works exactly like 10 after a few minor configuration edits, but at least the HDR support is miles better.
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>>107630103
It's not "throw away your perfectly good existing TV or Phone" worth it but it is "you should consider HDR capabilities in your next purchase" worth it.
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>>107631029
>hop on the hdr bandwagon
>most shit looks awful
>get told you're a jeet who can't configure your setup properly
I'll stick to cheap plug and play sdr that looks fine in 99.99% of scenarios

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>Almost 2026
>Still not one Mini-LED with glossy finish on the market
Do monitor manufacturers hate money?
>Get an OLED
Sorry I don't want
>Image retention
>Burn in (that even with prevention is inevitable 2-3 years down the road)
>Hiding taskbar
>Pixel shifting
>Fucked up text fringing
>Adware pop ups every 4 hours that turns the monitor off for 5 minutes and if you decline ONCE you void warranty
>Insane VRR flicker if you can't maintain 200+ FPS consistent
>Twice the price
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>>107631018
part2
So much nostalgia
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>>107630872
>LED light bulbs don't have a 30,000 hour rating for nothing you know?
>If you want your display to last forever while having a decent image, IPS is your only option.
What do you think is illuminating your IPS panel?
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>>107630821
Blooming, sure. But even worse is the response time.
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>>107631064
That degrades things evenly.
Burn-in happens because individual LEDs degrade more than neighboring LEDs, causing an image to appear. If everything degrades evenly you don't get burn-in, your whole display just gets slightly less bright.
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>>107631083
Yeah, so eventually it goes kaput too. So it's far from "lasting forever".

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>>107629372
you are one of them
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>>107630787
what did you even get banned for anyway?
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>>107630693
>t. soinigger
I don't even care about thread personalities on /g/ so why should I care about some nobody from your homosexual rage comic subreddit
/qa/ fucking lost. DIE DIE DIE
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>>107630940
>I don't even care about thread personalities on /g/ so why should I care about some nobody from your homosexual rage comic subreddit
/qa/ fucking lost. DIE DIE DIE
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>>107630693
>>107630787
>>107630940
>>107631051
I'll bite, cause I have no idea who this dude is and I'm curious. So who is he.

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Laurie turned rogue!
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>>107627638
BBAASSEEDD
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>>107630639
X has communities now. Works like public facebook groups o algo.
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>anime avatar on twitter
>cryptonigger
>vibecoder
>cybersec babby
put these ""people"" in a blender
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>>107631011
For """webdev""", I blame fags like Theo.
For """cybersec""", I blame fags like vxunderground.
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>>107630728
>$596.48
>a month
lmao

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Game developers are cucks. They earn peanuts, need to know physics, math, hardware, and optimization techniques, and spend their time and effort just to make man-children happy.
Pathetic.
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>>107613538
kek, I stopped caring about getting a career as a game programmer when I was in college learning various compsci topics years ago and realized the starting salary was peanuts compared to other tech industries and the churn rate for employment was high and then there is the literal no work life balance when crunch time rolls around.
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>>107613538
>you WIL be ignorant
kys
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>>107613538
modern game devs? sure
anyone else with actual low level knowledge left for FAGMAN a long time ago
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>>107628109
>anyone else with actual low level knowledge left for FAGMAN a long time ago
To code in javascript
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>>107625706
How could you be a nepobaby if you start your own companies? Do words just mean anything now?

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OpenAI solved IMO using a plain LLM, unlike DeepMind, who used a custom system based on Lean 4.

Some myths that people are coping with (with answers):

* AIs saw these problems in their training data -- No, OpenAI got the problems within minutes of IMO ending
* AIs used a lot more time -- No, OpenAI's model had the same amount of time.
* They used a boutique system designed for solving IMO problems -- Only DeepMind. OpenAI used a general LLM.

AI is already smarter than you.

In b4: spelling gotchas and image-based tasks, or people who never used top of the line LLMs like gemini-3-pro and gpt-5-high.
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>>107629976
If ai were real, they would have used AI to generate that picture instead of buying it from getty images.

Also, I guarantee you, nothing about that graph is 3π anything.
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>>107630385
>Why is my C++ code still vastly superior every time I tell it to generate a solution ?
Investors see the writing on the wall already: >>107629976
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>>107630491
>(((Developer)))
>Apple laptop
>trust me bro
kek, ye right
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>>107630523
Why not? If you can afford it, Apple makes the best hardware out there. Also, it's UNIX, officially (unlike Linux).
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>>107629669
AI doesn't pay taxes.

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Is it worth getting into 3d printing?
it looks like a cool hobby but I don't know if people just forget about it after playing around for a month
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>>107629619
Try FreeCAD tutorials made by "Mango Jelly Solutions" on yt. Or try on shape, it's pretty straight forward with lots of learning material available online.
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>>107629862
I'll take a look at the freecad tutorials, thanks anon.
>Onshape
If I was okay with using cloudshit I'd just get a local shop to print out my stuff instead of having a printer myself.
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>>107629892
I had like a hard time with FreeCAD for two weeks tearing my hairs out constantly running into weird bugs or UI quirks but then things snapped into place and now I subconsciously side-step bugs or something. The mangojelly vids are the best freeCAD educational videos, hands down. I get the app-image with the weekly build since freeCAD is in active development and I like to get the bleeding edge version since I only use it for hobby stuff, yet.

Anon.. You're not into ghost guns, are you?
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>>107629041

Absolutely get a printer. It's super fun to design shit.
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>>107629619
If you're familiar with scripting, try OpenSCAD or build123d.

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Why does the PS5 get so much hate again?

It's a cheap choice for playing modern games that have sloppy PC ports. Unlike PC, PS5 uses fixed/standard hardware that the game can be specifically optimized for.
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>>107629346
>paying $20 monthly to use your own internet
Nah.
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>>107630294
>bro are you stupid? Just enter the right lottery tickets from a week ago and you'd be a millionaire by now
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>>107629346
I have a tower PC and laptop for work, a Steam Deck and Xbox Series X for gaming. I stream from my tower to the deck but that's something I used to do with a PS Vita. The last PlayStation I owned was a PS2 and my son has the PS5 but apart from a few gaming sessions with him I've never felt that I wanted to use the Sony console as I have everything that I need.
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>>107631049
I forgot to mention that my son is race mixed and from my wife's previous relationship, don't know if that matters tho lol
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>>107631035
Except the retail prices were right in front of you and actually costed as much.
The market has gone up and down several times thanks to mining, if you see prices drop and stay low for a while and don't go at it, it's literally your own fault.

Since Floens, Dickcheese and Ponyfucker are all dead, in this thread we worship Dimitri for being the only faggot still doing his job, but we also throw shit at him for his questionable design choices.
My 2 cents:
Catalog search does not filter, it's just Ctrl+F
You can sort bookmarks in the bookmarks menu but not in the bookmarks swipe tab
Scrollbar is ugly and thick
Pic attachment is not I'm the reply area but it's on the opposite side of the screen
In the bookmarks tab, what's the difference between "unbookmark" and "delete"?
You can't swipe bookmarks away to unbookmark


Pls fix
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As far as I remember I've gotten the IP ban once every three days since installing the beta. Everytime it was in the morning, virtually with the first post. So roughly every 24hrs. But probably too early to call it a definate pattern. Switching wifi off n on works around it.
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107630766
Also the symbol to make a post covers up the view new posts button, you got to aim for the far left to open them up. Kinda irritating.
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>>107630378
Ah, Samshit problems. I hate how it's slightly difficult to switch apps by swiping the bottom bar compared to stock Android .
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Can anyone more knowledgeable explain filters for me?

Do they make any network calls for their bookmark watching?

I'm paranoid about having the watcher on at work and some of my filter words and the contents of the threads tripping up our firewall someday...
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>Bottom bar completely removed
What the fuck, why
>browsing a thread
>want to switch to a bookmarked one
>two clicks
>now
>two swipes, two clicks
I also dislike the new search


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