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I'm trying to recover data from a Windows 98 PC, and I would like to back up the hard drive (which appears to be failing). I can still read data intermittently, and it sounds like it keeps doing repetitive seeking before it gives me data read errors and general drive read failures. The computer doesn't even detect the drive half the time, and it won't boot from that drive at all.

I would like to try and boot from a Linux recovery distro and see what I can do, namely clone the failing drive before doing anything else, but the optical drive doesn't appear to be plug-and-play (I can't boot off of it because the optical drive only works after drivers are already loaded), and I couldn't get a USB stick to work, so it seems like the only option left is to boot from a 1.44MB floppy disk and get the computer to clone the hard drive itself. I've added another drive, and that one works flawlessly, so it seems only the master drive is bad.

It's actually harder to get a straight answer on which linux distros you can boot from a floppy disk than I would've thought. It doesn't even matter if it has to be an old version, people are saying the wrong version number is capable of doing so (like with RIPLinuX, so I don't know which ridiculous version to use), and I'd prefer one centered on data recovery anyway.

It's a "Proteva Pro Series" PC, I guess. (Not pictured.) It doesn't sound very distinct, but apparently they thought it was distinct enough to brand it that way.
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>>107838299
>What if I don't have another computer that can interface with IDE drives,
There are literally adapters out there for that purpose, anon.
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OP here

I almost wonder if the solder joints on the hard drive might be bad too, those connectors would get stuck in there.
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>>107840132
*It doesn't help that I started fucking with the computer before I even first turned it on to see if it still worked after sitting in storage in a basement. It worked before when I last used it years ago, but I guess probably none of that matters now.
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>>107838366
Get a adapter. If you’re not patient enough to wait 1-2 days to get it delivered, the data isn’t important enough.

/thread
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>>107840580
I found a disassemblable external hard drive case, so I put the drive in there and am gonna use that for now. I didn't even get to test Clonezilla with more RAM to make it stop locking up whenever I select a video mode.

>the data isn’t important enough.
You're not important enough!
/thread

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Gaming on Linux? It just works, bro!
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>>107840610
You are lying... if that was the actual game it would definitely work on linux with native build on it actually. Troons would rework the whole game even if they bleed out of their eyes.
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>>107840552
works on my machine
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>>107840603
Darksiders Warmastered Edition
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>>107840552
This is ackshyually good because it teaches you real computer skils that are super applicable in the real world

And other retarded lies Loonix users will tell you
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>>107840552
Haven't had any issues since switching.
Some in fact run better even on my nvidia gpu laptop.

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Would you live inside Wine Desktop? Would it be insane to turn Wine into a DE for Linux like Windows 3.1 originally was for DOS? I would use the shit out of this.
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>>107837296
I was referring to the use case of minicomputers rather than UNIX itself. My understanding is minicomputers tended to be bought for specific departments that needed them, whereas a mainframe would be bought to run the entire company or campus off for the foreseeable future. So I guess more “single-interest” than single-user.
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>>107837394
Guess it’s a use specific thing. I’ve had numerous programs on Windows freak-out or refuse to install anywhere but the C: drive, and that software is generally the kind of software that makes Windows worth keeping around. I recall that even Photoshop gets pissy with other drives, but it might have been fixed since.

Internally windows uses a flat file structure called UNC, and drives are mapped a `\\.\<drive_letter>`, and the older DOS style paths are aliased to them.
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>>107838138
ReactOS has the feature of supporting windows device drivers, which WINE does not, and which is a huge benefit for a lot of industrial users of windows, who have device drivers that only work on said 30 year old versions of windows. Think CNC machines, ATMs, various HMIs for industrial controls and so on.
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>>107839840
In those cases you would just want to run those on an actual computer running a period correct version of Windows. If you have the kind of money to be buying industrial equipment you are not going to be installing unsupported software on it.
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>>107829507
I know it's basically just running all programs in one prefix. But I'm too lazy so never tweaked it more.

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A Celeron CPU is good enough for 90% of you.
>But my games--
Stop playing games.
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fzf literally takes a minute to fully load on a dv6 from 2011 lmao
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>>107840290
>stop having fun
>profit from boring shit and bad performance
I'm sorry you're homeless, anon, I really do, but fuck, stop coping on 4chins already
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>>107840290
3D Modelling is a game
Writing Excel tables is a game
Writing documents is a game
Playing videogames is a game
Designing an circuit board is a game
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>>107840290
Celerons can play games.
Kinda suck at video encoding, though.
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>>107840290
I edit hotglue pics, I can't wait literal ages for each tweak and export. I need more POWER!

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why are boomers allowed to regulate computers
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>>107832876
>This is the average bong btw.

>some bitch in govt
>meanwhile comments are universally against it / her
retard that you are
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>>107831857
the propagandists put these self made "polls" in front of your eyes to convince you that it is okay. they never expect people to question where the results came from.
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>>107838554
>he thinks JewTube comments section represents the British people
kek. This is like going to reddit and thinking the average bong is a leftist. That politician is pretty much as low class trash as it gets. She is the average bong. If she pissed you off then you understand my frustration when I speak them.

I was having an argument the other day with both zoomers and boomers in my Office saying the BBC is trash and they had the gull to call me un-British, because the BBC is heritage. It's a regular thing with them. They will defend whatever is fucking them in the ass.

It's why they clapped my mindless drones at 8pm during COVID.
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europe is an all-you-can-rape amusement park for brown people regulating themselves and their populations into the dirt at the hands of boomers and women
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>>107831645
>an enlightened elite
the same enlightened elite that made the uk into a shithole?

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What is your favorite calculator?
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Probably still the HP-50g

I've got some fun ones I used in the past. A TI-89TI, a TI-Voyage 200, and an original N-Spire CAS
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>>107839581
These gay ass calcs always used to run out of battery for me during exams even and that single line screen is a cunt to use.
Get a TI-30xs, preferably the solar edition. It's way better than casiotrash.
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My favorite is an old model TI-89. A buddy of mine gave it me for tutoring him. He picked it up at a pawnshop for cheap, but the professor spotted it and was quite upset about it.
Prior to that, I had been using a TI-85. A different buddy gave it to me since it was too hard for him to use in the age of the TI-84.
It offers complex vector and matrix support, which is quite entertaining.
I have a TI-92 in a box somewhere. I bought it years later for giggles, never really used it. It would be hilarious to bust out that ol' cinderblock in class.

>>107837026
I liked the non-backlit models due to the extreme battery life.
They'd last about a semester (maybe a little less) on one set of batteries.
I can't imagine charging a calculator like a phone. What a pain in the ass.
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>>107831543
Are these worth actual money used? I got one for free that idk what to do with.
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4chan XT is dead https://github.com/TuxedoTako/4chan-xt/releases/tag/XT2.24.2

whats the alternative?
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https://litter.catbox.moe/amt1b1ufvco3mu5m.js
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>>107839787
>>107839794
Holy based
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>>107839787
wat do with this
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>>107839793
no problem (yet)
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>>107839794
fucking 404

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>2026
>I'm forgotten
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>>107839516
what were they thinking?
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>>107839528
S.O.V.L
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>>107839528
I don't know why more logos aren't 3d renderings. That style always looked so cool.
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>tries to access it
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Im still using it because I don't want to be surveilled by microsoft or google

Are bone-conductive headphones any good? Being able to listen to stuff while having full hearing sounds pretty appealing
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>>107839058
+Can hear everything else while listening to podcasts/music
+Lightweight
+Can use to talk to people over the phone hands free
+Long battery life
+Does not require stuffing objects into your ear canal to listen as it relies positioning over the zygomatic bone

-Audio quality isn't as good unlike using headphones or earbuds
-Bass is almost non-existent, is more noticeable when wearing ear plugs
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>>107839102
>decade ago
Tech changes and improves, gramps.
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>>107839097
I wouldn't wanna bring my expensive open back headphones to listen to podcasts on a commute.
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>>107839058
Are they good to listen to Discord while I use my speakers with something else?
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>>107839249
pedophile

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now that firefox has become part of the problem, what is there left to use?
brave is crypto bro memeware
arc is not on linux so unusable
zen is slow and janky
edge and chrome dont have to be explained
vivaldi and opera are just chrome with extra spying eyes
librewolf is so heavily circumcised its unusable for any real work

is there anything?
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>>107837859

Librewolf has been working fine for me the past few years , its firefox without the glowniggers. Can even use all the same extensions
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Firefox has been part of the problem since they implemented support for widevine DRM video in like 2004.
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>>107837859
fuckin trannies fuckin fuk YOU
fuckin leftist commies DADDY TRUMP SAVE ME
FUK U!!!!!!!!
IM SWITCHING 2 CHROME
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>>107837922
>They all browse the web fine, stop worrying about stuff that doesn't matter.
your mother dies in her sleep tonight.
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>>107839004
I tried but its a pain in the ass with having to use the mouse to copy to the clipboard and the webm play thing where I have to uncheck something so the webm files loop. It can't load certain pages and 3-4 surf windows use more RAM then Brave, but under that is less them Brave.

tldr just use Brave

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so what programs do you use to actually program in?
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>>107825936
Kate mainly
Used to use >>107826244 before I jumped off the sinking ship.
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>>107825936
I use Eclipse because it's a real IDE rather than a useless text editor. It's like the difference between using a computer, and being a phone fag. Using a text editor when IDEs exist is tinker tranny autismo.

You basically have to BUILD an IDE starting from an underwhelming editor. This is why the whole JavaScript/NPM community is so retarded. All of them use text editors and end up needing to run bullshit linters and packagers and whatnot, because they don't have a real IDE that provides them with this functionality out of the box. That results in brain damaged ideas like downloading node packages and just executing them on your machine, trusting complete strangers on the internet with everything in your home dir.

And of course, that experience is so bad for them, they now do things like run "ai agents" such as claude in their environment too. Like, I guess if you assume your ass is already pwned by NPM supply chain hackers, then installing some trillion dollar corporate spyware that uploads all your work to a competitor makes some kind of sense.
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>>107829483
Fpbp
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>>107835844
lazygit writing a thesis and having it auto sync was a good decision.
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>>107825936
i like vscode because whenever i try to rename something, it renames it in every function and every file everywhere it can find it and there is no alternative other than to go one by one and tick each one i don't want renamed

it really forces me to commit to my naming decisions

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YOU WILL NEVER BE A REAL FRAME
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>>107840357
I honestly don't know if I'll ever go up from 1080. Just not worth the huge price jump for a slightly prettier picture.
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>>107840357
It is real cheese, they just bind more water into it to make it melt easier (to save cost)
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>>107840490
I wouldn't. I started playing a lot of games in 4k when I got the 5080 and on the games where it can't handle the 4k and I have to turn it down to 2k it just looks like mud. It's like going to an old Dell dome cap keyboard after you've had mechanical switches.
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you guys already live in made up reality slop created by your brain anyways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo_e0EvEZn8

yes, the colors only exist inside your head.
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poorfaggot thread

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>cp
>unzip
>strip
>touch
>more
>yes
>make clean
>sleep
Did Stallman really?
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>>107837956
No he isn't, He is a DemSoc that happens to make exceptions on free speech and many negative social liberties. Even though his political views are far from mutualism and classical (pre ayn rand) libertarianism he correctly identified the patent monopoly.

If he was a communist he would demand the United States Government force everyone to open source their code
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>>107830514
>woman
https://web.archive.org/web/20070919103521/http://centaur.maths.qmul.ac.uk/Emacs/WoMan/
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>>107827147
>The U in GNU stands for Under...
wait what
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>>107840305
What does the G in GNU stand for?
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>>107827147
This joke is about as old as a Unix itself.

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John Romero Edition

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Should I write my own mesh loader or use an existing one?
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ok I've decided to tone down on the autism and not persue a custom mesh loader, dowloading blender rn and I'll spend that time on making some shitty 3D objects, heres a fun review for blender on flatpak
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>>107834959
C#
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>>107840178
shes perfect
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So how do I actually architecture/structure my game's code base? What is the current proper way? I see people suggesting OOP and ECS, but they don't elaborate on the details, what do they mean by OOP exactly? Surely they do not mean that I need to do these large inheritance trees, so what pattern do they actually suggest? Similarly, for ECS, it is a bit more clear, but I can't quite figure out what is the suggested pattern for handling events in in-game logic. Do tell me about how to do it properly in either OOP or ECS, or both.

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>>107840233
wtf thats 215 USD, its cheaper to just buy it
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>>107840233
It's equally as expensive you Innumerate redditor
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>>107840233
you still have to buy the donors anyway
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>>107840233
Isn't this just cribbing together much slower laptop memory
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>>107840510
They're salvaged, meaning probably faulty.


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