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Now that everything is fucked with regards to the desktop both due to parts and prices and the momentum to turn them into little more than dumb terminals accessing monitored cloud services smeared with AI and subsciptions and spyware. Is building offline old machines and private networks with no internet gateway as perfect windows XP enviroments, windows 7, win 10 enviroments, Linus enviroments, LAN game enviroments, offline LAN media serversm SANs, including legacy console LAN gaming, linux enviromomets the the new meta that will replace turbo pc building and digital subscriptions ?

Will LAN gaming make a comeback?

What would your ideal PC Build for
Win 10
Win 7
Windows XP
BSD
Be using authentic hardware?

Do any of you already do this?

No security hassles, montains of software and offline media, air gapped security, physical and digital offline media hordes.


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No, people like the internet.
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>>107854433
They are not people they are normies. Aside from this shithole there is not much left. The days or IRC/USENET/FTP/Skype/AIM/MSN Messager/Blogs/Chans are long gone.
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>>107854433
Do you really like
twitter/.facebook/instagram/youtibe/netflix/Amazoen Prime/ Azure/Google/MSN/Yahoo//Instagram/TikTok

REALLY?

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>>107854194
Impressive. Too bad I'm 3 years away from replacing my work laptop, but I'm looking forward to further improvements.

Discussion of Free and Open Source Diffusion Models

Prev: >>107849812

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneo
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com

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civitai archive is slow as shit now. i guess the servers are being overwhelmed
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>>107854868
If they're so concerned about deepfakes and cunny then just ban every single realism model on the site (including z-image)
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>>107854868
I've honestly lost most of my interest in loras.
Overwhelming majority of them nowadays are jeet trained, broken, shitty, fried worthless pure sloppa anyways.
It's better that the model knows something by default.
If not edit models usually produce better results for whatever that is.
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>>107854945
You are joking but that's just a question of time
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>>107854962
Porn loras are the reason Wan is even relevant

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Why do you need 24GB of VRAM? What will you do with it that 16GB can't? Most people don't need more than 12 and you NEET highschool dropout hobbyists can get by just fine with 8GB for your projects and old games.
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>>107850817
>Cyberjunk
I'm fine
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>>107842821
I'm high T male. No such thing as post nut clarity for me.
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>>107844541
fuck amd. I had to bend over backwards just to get forge and llama to run on my 6700xt and that shit broke as soon as I even thought about updating anything. replaced that piece of shit with a 5060 ti and had no problems since. It even tripled my speed in both, stable diffusion and text generation.
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>>107843073
If you have the workflow for this still I would like to have it generate at twice the resolution.
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>>107842575
>you NEET highschool dropout hobbyists can get by just fine with 8GB for your projects and old games
This NEET here just upgraded from a 8 GB RX 6600 to a 9060 XT 16 GB and I can finally play games without lag and dropping quality to low..
>inb4 all new games are shit
Fuck off. Just played Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Space Marine 2, Alan Wake 2, Expedition 33, Atomfall and Silent Hill F and they were fucking great. My old pc shat itself when I tried them even on low settings with fake frames and shit.

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Best Practices Edition

previous: >>107761293

READ THE (temp)WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server

/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.

>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.

>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.


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>>107854477
i don't give a shit what it's called. less talk more walled.
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>>107854458
Mostly because I just fundamentally disagree with the licensing model. I don't care that it costs money, I don't support differentiating based on how many HDDs you have hooked up or any other random bullshit like that.
The software itself is fine. I prefer the proxmox ZFS version but if you're fine with the licensing and the money go ahead, it seems pretty retard proof from what I've seen.
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>>107854505
Fair enough, the licensing is incredibly gay. I don't get the whole USB thing either, so gay.
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use case for unraid and proxmox?
what happened to just installing rocky or alma to bootstrap all your containers?
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>>107854533
>containers

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I don't understand, why isn't Microsoft using AI to update the signature database dynamically??
What the fuck are they doing still manually "pushing" out updates, they need to use AI to dynamically update the system in real time and make the dynamic changes. The code needs to live and breathe as a living entity. This is the future we were promised. AI is supposed to fix these issues. This isn't Windows XP or Windows 7 anymore. The mere concept of... installing an update... like dude what the fuck get with the times Microsoft.
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bot post?
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>>107854490
BOTNET!
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LINUX CAN UPDATE THE SYSTEM LIVE YOU STUPID FUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>107854478
This is the worse idea I've ever heard in my life which means Microsoft is probably already working on it as we speak.
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>>107854564
Yes. Yes we are.

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>>107680640
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet + the TrackPoint
>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>Excellent Linux & *BSD support

ThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specs
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

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>>107827328
I have the actual genuine keyboard this is based on that includes the win key instead of the other one that doesnt have it and comes with the ibm logo
I dont really use it much and it feels lighter than the keyboard on the x220 and also a specific combination of win + shift + right seems to not work while all 3 of those keys individually work fine
I'm curious if the tex shinobi feels better than the genuine lenovo one or not. I heard that middle button where mousewheel up/down is supposed to be doesnt actually work properly as a mousewheel like the regular thinkpad keyboard would
>>107827945
Honestly if i wanted a numpad i would just get a separate standalone one that can be placed like on the other side of the mouse and mousepad instead of increasing the distance between the kb and mouse
>using an external usb mouse instead of the one built in to the keyboard
Idk i use both the kb mouse and a regular usb mouse depending on my mood
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>>107850572
I guess I figured maybe I'd want to keep the disc drive. I still do use it, but really only occasionally. I actually do have some 2.5" HDDs lying around, but I take this laptop everywhere and I'm afraid of the HDD dying on me.

Also are there any cool expresscard accessories for a T430? I don't need any more USB ports
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My t480 shuts down after the first battery depletes and only switches to the second battery after i turn it back on. is this because im using cheap chinese replacement batteries?
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>>107853674
Probably. Calibrating them (may need to do it a few times for each) usually helps
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>>107851030
No
The difference of the iGPU perfornance between T14 G2 and T14 G3 is night and day. Going from "could barely run Minecraft" to "1080p 30 FPS Cyberpunk".

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Should I get my dad an iPhone?
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If he's used to Android and you don't need to help him that much, no. If he's always asking for help with his phone, get him the iPhone.
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>>107852019
He's the least nerd person in the family and has never bothered to learn how to use android. His homescreen is just full of widgets of random apps and duplicates of apps.
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>>107852043
iphone it is then
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Doesn’t matter what you get him, he probably will just use a browser + Facebook
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>>107851998
Technically the dad could very well be a millennial.

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>AMD
>Thunderbolt 4 is not natively supported
*sigh*
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>>107854201
>three second search
>find 40+ AM5 boards with Thunderbolt
No I won't tell you which ones or how. Go fuck yourself you imbecile.
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>>107854201
>AMD
>*USB DEVICE DISCONNECTED* *USB DEVICE DISCONNECTED* *USB DEVICE DISCONNECTED* *USB DEVICE DISCONNECTED* *USB DEVICE DISCONNECTED* *USB DEVICE DISCONNECTED* *USB DEVICE DISCONNECTED*
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>>107854454
Yeah that's not Thunderbolt lol
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>>107854201
AI can fix this problem.
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>>107854496
>Unknown device
>Unknown device
>Unknown device
>Unknown device
>Network Controller (This device is not functional)
What the FUCK were they thinking forcing OEMs to only use MediaKek?

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What's the most accurate tech prediction you've heard in the past 10 or so years?

Here's a post on a blog from 2014. Creepy.
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>>107853253
What a weird thing to make up.
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>>107852853
If monopolies were so bad then they wouldn't keep on popping up
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>>107853994
>If drugs destroyed lives, then people wouldn't do drugs.
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>>107852853
>here's a prediction from 2014 which hasn't come true yet
...ok?
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>>107852853
This was common tech talk in 2014 not some nostadramus type prediction. Now if this comment was made back in 2010 it would have been an era prediction.

>>107853094
Firefox dominated because IE was garbage. 2006-2011. 2012 was the last year Firefox was respected by normies. After that its been a Chromium worl.d

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it's over. the infinite AI investment money is drying up.
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>>107847274
You bitches, you blew it all up, ALL of the investor money GONE
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>>107848212
>businesses built on vague ideas and concepts don't work 100% of the time
the fact you unironically thought this was a not only a meaningful contribution, but worth posting as if it was not the most obvious fucking thing on planet earth is mind-boggling. the worst part is that there is a 100% chance you read that on r/technology or something and reposted it here thinking it was clever and you'd look smart on an anonymous imageboard. AI demolished this board forever but not for the reasons stupid niggers like you think
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>>107847490
No it isn’t, an Apple-sized elephant is the size of an apple. The answer is literally in the question, there is zero requirement to do any calculations. It asked how big, not how massive, or how much does it weight.
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>>107852429
A calculator is capable of finding answers for given inputs, with nearly 100% accuracy. I guess they’re the super intelligence we were looking for.

Meme’s aside, these things are built solely to produce locally coherent text, the “correctness” is a result of statistically modelling typically coherent and correct human text. It isn’t even that flexible, give it curveball and it’ll resolutely give a wrong answer. They have literally no formal reasoning capacity, if it’s correct it’s either because the correct answer is the most common answer statistically, or you got lucky and on a regen it’ll be wrong.

Critically, LLMs lack any capacity for meaningful self-reflection and introspection. The “thinking” text spit out by newer models is hallucinatory bullshit that has no connection to the internal process. It improves results only because it brings the input text for the final step closer to that of carefully reasoned human writing. The appearance of intelligence is an artefact of the dataset it is modelling, not any kind LLMs as a technology themselves. They’re shit at math, and either cheat by calling other tools heuristically, or luck out because the question given is common enough online for the token probabilities to line up.

In short, I’m loathe to call it intelligence, because there is no thinking, no ability to learn, a pathological inability to notice mistakes, and an inability to apply “known” knowledge to novel scenarios. I find it difficult to believe that animal intelligence relies solely, or even largely, on statistical retrieval of previously seen facts.
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>>107854271
They work well enough on midwit-tier problems and below, and on any problem that is really a differentiable manifold (intelligence isn't).
It's SLOP FOR THE SLOP GOD! BULLSHIT FOR THE BULLSHIT THRONE!

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Holy shit guys, I just had an epiphany.

What's currently happening with AI is an EXACT replication of what happened with wokeness.

Let me elaborate:

>~2013
>wokeness and social justice dominate the zeitgeist
>companies start promising shareholders that adhering to ESG standards will generate value
>the biggest woke shills move up the corporate ladder
>opposing voices get ostracized
>forward a few years
>leading positions are filled with people who ended up there just because they never shut up about wokeness not because of their merit
>proceed to shit everything up with woke shit that nobody asked for


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>>107854136
>~1995
>internet dominates the zeitgeist
>companies start promising shareholders that pushing websites and connected services will generate value
>the biggest internet will solve everything shills move up the corporate ladder
>forward a few years
>leading companies are all centered around ecommerce and connectivity
>proceed to shit everything up with bespoke websites nobody asked for

yeah man, after the dot com bubble popped and shit like pets.com took billions of dollars of investment the internet died
noone uses it anymore because it was overhyped, overinvested and made a bunch of useless shit
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>>107854196
Pretty big cope, buddy. You know you're too emotionally invested in a topic when you start attacking points that weren't even made.
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>>107854196
And pets.com is still not a thing. Essentially, people burned billions of dollars in a big fire, gained nothing, and also failed to invest in a majority of the major tech giants nowadays. Much like the Dotcom bubble, the criticism is not that it is a complete scam technology, but that it is not mature, has no clear market, and despite this, it is having ungodly amounts of money dumped into it.

It is about scale, not whether it has any sort of use at all. Retard investors were dumping money into Dotcom because they could see potential, but they didn’t understand the technology, the userbase or the work involved. They hyped others up, those people then dump money in, repeat until it becomes so blatantly obvious it’s not sensible to dump billions of dollars into a nascent technology without a clear or tested market, and it crashes and burns.

AI is even worse, it’s not even going to build useful infrastructure we could bring back online in 10-20 years when we actually need it, power plants don’t mothball well, data centres have excessive maintenance fees that will see them either demolished or ignored (and thus rendered useless) during the interim. Not only that, but it is actively hindering other industries by hogging resources and investments. In short, most investors are retarded, and will buy anything another rich investor says is a good investment.
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>>107854136
Why did they ever think that wokeness would somehow make money?
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>>107854343
Agreed. Also imagine the fucking collosal influx of cheap throwaway enterprise tech flooding the market after it all crashes down. I precum a little every time I think about that.

Is something like arm hackintosh possible? How different is apple silicon from other arm processors?
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>>107853120
Arm hackintosh not possible, but you can buy latest intel/amd cpu with 6800/6900(native support)
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>>107854301
Interesting, I'm now a little interested in toying with one to learn the os at least.
How much do these go for these days, 400 USD?
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>>107854301
Tahoe will be the last version with x86 though. It's the end of the line for hackintosh after that.
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>>107854451
*with x86 support
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>>107854301
just keep in mind tahoe will be the last macOS version apple will release x86 versions for

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Only but a trickle of online communities attain the peculiar yet consistent equilibrium exhibited by Hacker News, wherein all participating interlocutors appear to be simultaneously and uniformly incorrect.
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>>107854449
yeash


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