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How is RedoxOS coming along? It'd be nice to have a usable microkernel operating system.
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>>107741499
That's because monolithic kernels have never been tried. No, not even Linux. It's a hybrid LARPing as a monokernel, but it's not. The Finnish retard copied the API from a self-admitted microkernel (Minix), whose explicit purpose was to keep complicated shit out of kernelspace.

A true monokernel wouldn't block on open and reads. A true monokernel would allow you to create sockets and FDs in batches. A true monokernel would have compound functions (open + mmap + close) for the most common patterns.
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>>107742231
Also, a true monokernel would've probably used something like shared mappings between user and kernel to properly utilize memory layout and out-of-order execution, and write-lock the plot upon submission to make sure that the thread cannot modify the data in mid-flight. *And our current hardware doesn't support that very well* because the page table is a process-wide resource, not a thread-local one - meaning that, if you write-lock pages, you end up with per-core TLB shootdowns that can easily take much longer to complete than just copying all parameters from userspace to kernelspace, even if it's an in-order copy.

Oh, and speaking of TLB shootdowns:
>batched mmap
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>>107740569
>How is RedoxOS coming along?
Well, is it at all? They had an interesting idea about "everything is a URL" but them went back on that fo rmore UNiX like philosophy. And that was after all the drama and purges. So after 10 years it is still not as advanced or usable as Linux was after 4 years.
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>>107742231
>That's because monolithic kernels have never been tried. No, not even Linux. It's a hybrid LARPing as a monokernel, but it's not.
Monolithic kernels are brain damage because it means they have no loadable drivers or modules. Everything has to be compiled into one binary blob, so all your GPU drivers, USB drivers, file systems, all hardware you will ever support, is compiled into one blob.

>The Finnish retard copied the API from
He copied it from Unix.

>A true monokernel wouldn't block on open and reads. A true monokernel would allow you to create sockets and FDs in batches. A true monokernel would have compound functions (open + mmap + close) for the most common patterns.
That's just a non-Unix-like design and has nothing to do with monolithic or microkernels. Windows NT, VMS, and IBM mainframe OSes have a non-blocking asynchronous design. Microkernels are also inherently non-Unix-like, because anything similar to Unix is provided as user mode processes. They don't even have the concept of a file system or opening or reading files because that's handled by programs outside the kernel.

>>107742281
>Also, a true monokernel would've probably used something like shared mappings between user and kernel to properly utilize memory layout and out-of-order execution
That has nothing to do with monolithic or microkernels either.
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>>107743317
>They had an interesting idea about "everything is a URL"
It followed pretty naturally from the network transparency features of most microkernels before it. Have they really abandoned the idea?
>So after 10 years it is still not as advanced or usable as Linux was after 4 years.
Not the same thing, Linux was slotted into the existing GNU ecosystem that had been worked on for a decade already, whereas Redox is effectively starting from scratch (bar rustc) and has much more complicated modern hardware to deal with.

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This is ChatGPT told a schizo who stabbed his mom and himself to death
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>>107743797
I think the fact that it caused the schizo to murder a defenseless elderly woman is the real problem here.
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>>107743966
This is murrica, nobody gives a shit about random murder around here
and since sex is forbidden due to being a puritan hole there will never be "dude rapes his helpless 14yo neighbor due to chatgpt" so nothing will ever happen
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>>107744421
They’ll find a way to make that claim
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>>107738768
>implying they ever stopped sacrificing to moloch
>abortions are totally not slaughtering babies since forever
>evolution is not transforming you to a selfish sadistic animal at all
>money is not a god dude, it's just a tool
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The shine of ai is wearing off int he corporate setting as well. I work in a large corporation somewhat near the middle and managers are furious with ai generated content. It's always bad, any summaries made, any documents written just contain errors and stacks of errors, falsehoods, sometimes such that could get the company in legal trouble. There was one girl who ai generated a contract with a subcontractor and my god the shit in there would have bankrupted us.

There will be a serious tightening of ai usage in most corporations, ai is not ony useless it is actively harmful. I'm talking about LLMs here mostly. The engineers are using their own machine algos or open source stuff for simulation aid where ai is indeed useful, but openais chatbot can fuck right off.

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Why are iPhones very easy to hack?
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>>107741078
>Waiting for updates from an unstable mentally ill schizo
Yeah, naw
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>>107740987
kek
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Not so hard when company put a literal hardware backdoor on them
https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/12/exploit-used-in-mass-iphone-infection-campaign-targeted-secret-hardware-feature/
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>>107745155
>not so hard
That was extremely hard and one of the most sophisticated iOS zero days ever documented. It's right in the aricle title
>4-year campaign backdoored iPhones using possibly the most advanced exploit ever
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>>107745190
Without the hardware backdoor they would have only used the xploit for a month or so, not 4 years

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>take CS class at uni (for fun, not my major)
>this is what the other students are coding on
And then you wonder why we need H1B indians
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1. This thing has a web broswer which probably supports wasm
2. You can run https://copy.sh/v86/ in a web browser
3. From 1 and 2 it follows that this machine is at least as capable as an old PC
4. Old PC is usable for writing software if your code and your tools are fast
5. From 3 and 4 it follows that this machine is perfectly usable for programming
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>>107742334
> There's nothing wrong with the new generation of kids growing up on locked down toy appliances and never knowing what it's like to actually own and control your own property
yeah the world is fucked. this picture nails it >>107731253
Fuck that anons racism though
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>>107742488
Really cool site, but its making even my desktop fans start spinning fast when I try to run the desktop environment on the Arch image. Crazy that this is even possible, but its not gonna work on an IPad.
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>>107742507
>owning and controlling your property is lugging around 6 pounds of ewaste with 2 hours battery life
college isn’t a place to fiddle with your bashrc and audio drivers
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The ifags are going wild in this thread dunking on lincucks, completely oblivious to the fact that productive members of society program on windows "gaming" laptops.
>muh spyware muh recall muh performance
Cope. I have a macbook and a linux NAS too, but windows has almost all modern and old software available, which makes development that mush easier

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>>107744671
What is the brand name? Some peripherals have firmware issues and this applies to mice even.
If it is fully USB compliant it should not vibrate because usb is a standard, so it's more likely a kernel module issue afaik.
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>>107744384
>changed image hash so people can't see you already posted it over 9000 times
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>>107744671
Also: you can probably reset the firmware of the controller by pressing 'home' button when plugging it in or something but this can vary.
8bit do controllers have this feature for example.
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>>107744708
It's Onn, the generic walmart brand.
Hmm.. holding the home button while plugging it in put it into some kind of state. The power light just stayed blinking and it wasn't vibrating, but it's not being picked up at all is lsusb.
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>>107744959
>>107744671
Okay, me again. I went ahead and created /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-hid-nintendo with "blacklist hid_nintendo"
rebooted, manually loaded xpad
plugged controller in, it attempted to handshake with nintendo, failed, and connected as hid-generic, then immediately fell back to xbox 360.
So, it's working now. The solution was blacklisting hid_nintendo since that seems to be how it's trying to connect.

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/biz/ herre.
How is AI not another dot-com bubble?
What are its practical applications, aside from porn generation and helping high schoolers with their homework? How does it make money?
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>>107740275
Microsoft is strong-arming companies into including copilot in their new volume licenses for Windows and Office products. There is an article somewhere where a sales rep just left the bargaining table when the customer refused to consider Copilot, because that’s the only thing they get bonuses for at the moment.

Nobody is paying for this shit personally, it’s paid for by corporate, who justify it because it gets retard investor bucks flowing in, not because it had any proven productivity benefits. Being bean-counting retards, they then force it onto workers to try and maximise its value. It’s capacity to improve productivity is poorly proven, and some studies indicate it reduces productivity.

Furthermore, it’s likely that the 300€ plans are still losing Microsoft money. OpenAIs 200USD/month plan makes a loss.

With regards to data centres, Microsoft and Google might be able to tank the huge hit, much like giants like IBM and Cisco could tank the Dotcom bubble, but just because some people don’t die in a plague doesn’t make it a good thing. The exposure to risk that many investment firms (and by extension 401ks, banks, e.t.c.) are exposed to means the insane debt being taken out on vague deliverables will blow up catastrophically if it doesn’t work, and ripple through the rest of the economy, taking out businesses only tangentially related. The economy will stagnate and people will become poorer. This is not a good outcome.
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>>107740616
>like the space race
man but at least that was cool and some of the materials they invented during that became useful for everyday life. So far with AI, it just means there's now more slop in my life.
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>>107740939
What, significantly worse off? Advertised to every minute of the day, harvested for data, systematically priced out of owning any significant assets, left with an aging population that will not have enough young people to care for them? The average person is worse off now than they were in the 2000s.

Furthermore, more specifically, the Dotcom bubble blew up numerous companies, fucked a lot of finances and stagnated the economy until 2006ish, when it was promptly blown up again for different retarded reasons. The web is not useless, but the valuations at the time were absolutely retarded, completely unattached from actual useful businesses. It was the insane financing, valuations and investment decisions that made the Dotcom bubble, not the tech itself being flawed or useless. People didn’t want to miss out on the next big thing, and then promptly blew up their money investing into shit they didn’t understand, but was being hyped by investors who knew they could be the lesser fool in a shit investment and cash out.
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>>107737777
>How is AI not another dot-com bubble?
It probably is
>What are its practical applications, aside from porn generation and helping high schoolers with their homework?
Most useful application I can see is that it can be a better search engine, but the hallucination problem is intrinsic to this tech and also crippling to this use case, so it's all kinda meh in practice if you try to use it for real work where correctness and truth actually matter (let alone quality).
>How does it make money?
Right now it doesn't seem to make money at all. The tech is extremely expensive due to extreme hardware demand and like I said the actual productivity boost you get from it is dubious at best, at least in professions where truth and correctness matter. I think this is a serious flaw and it will continue to prevent these services from making any money.

It might have some real applications in domains where correctness and truth do not matter. Unfortunately these are mostly the artistic pursuits where fiction reigns, though even there you need internal consistency which is kind of the same thing. Still if you AI generate some artwork and it's good, then it's good and there's no objective correctness to strive for.

I could also see this sort of tech as something potentially cool if it can be applied properly to video games. I don't mean fully generating slop games or some shit, but including it as a mechanic. Imagine a game where the NPCs and the world can fully react to everything you do, or where you can have more free-form conversations with NPCs and so on. Might be cool, though of course even in this use case whatever "AI" is used has to be reined in so it doesn't do something retarded.
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>>107740245
Productivity should be measured in quality output, but lazy and incompetent workers don't want it to be measured like that. AI isn't even the real problem. The problem are the managers and any worker with managerial duties. Often times, the higher up in the ladder they go, the less coding they do, and the more incompetent they become. They start increasingly believing in their own delusional fantasies, which leads to disastrous results in the future.

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>/g/ makes an 18th album
Theme: Outer Space Music
Title: [Accepting suggestions]
Deadline: 14th of January

>/g/ makes a 19th album
Theme: [Accepting suggestions]

>Song submission rules/guidelines
Upload the file somewhere, preferably in a lossless format, and post the link here. If you want to update your track, make a new post.
Include the song title in the post, and make it clear that your song is a submission for the album.
Optionally you may include cover art for your track, but please confirm that the image in your post is the cover art or it won't be included. You may not use your real artist name.
Songs that contain anything against YouTube's policies won't be uploaded on YT, but will still be added to the album.
By default, tracks will be normalised to -14 LUFS (integrated loudness) in the release. You may specify a lower loudness for your track.
Use of AI is banned. This includes AI generated stems, samples, and effects. "AI" includes all neural network-based models and not hard-coded automation/procedural generation. You are allowed to ask an LLM about music-related questions, but asking it to give you musical ideas (eg. generating a chord progression) is already a no-no.

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>>107739416
this is it I promise
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Modular synthesis
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>>107742290
But like, how many different good sounds are there, really?
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>>107742377
oh, I would say near zero, it's just something to fuck off with and play around on
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>>107738930
>Trance Vol.2 (JE8086 [the free JP-80X0 emulator] ONLY Edition!)

Vote for Trance Vol.2 (JE8086 [the free JP-80X0 emulator] ONLY Edition!) for the next album

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What kind of RAM fans do you guys use for DDR5 6000mhz?

I'm satisfied with this one, it keeps my ram running cool as a cucumber.
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>>107744423
sorry guys this is my fault, I was googling water-blocks for ram earlier and it definitely woke up the algos
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>>107744798
>liquid cooling your ram
unfathomably based
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I just pee on it and call it water cooling
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>>107745017
What is R. Kelly doing here?
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>>107745017
Isn't that going to make it worse? Pee is body temp, my RAM runs cooler than that.

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>here’s your trillion dollar LLM bro
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>>107741538
lmao llms are literally r*ddit-retarded and fundamentally broken
but I'm sure a few more trillion dollars will fix this amirite
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>>107741529
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>>107741590
I'm amazed how faggy the replies are compared to even lighter local models.
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>>107743948
>In fact it is ASI for most questions
Only if you only ever ask midwit-tier questions.
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>>107744453
Gotta use all that ram somehow
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>>107741529
Did they really suck up all that DRAM for this?

This + Termux will be absolute kino.
It just needs a tab button
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>>107743462
>ads keys
>runs slop
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>>107743462
>front camera
no thanks
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>>107744093
>my screenplays
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>>107744124
>Xitter spacing
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>>107743939
Dat hinge was awesome

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What's the equivalent of a win32 GUI on Linux?
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>>107743191

i have not head of anyone who writes postscript
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>>107744841
>20 years ago
30 years ago in many cases.
Many software made for Windows 95 still run fine in Windows 11 25H2.
Meanwhile I had problems trying to make 8 year old software run on Linux
>binaries don't work, too outdated
>packages don't install, too outdated
>try to build from source
>fall into dependency hell
>give up
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>>107743191
win32(wine)
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>>107744706
To be fair, that password was for network logon. It was not intended to keep the local machine secure.
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>>107744706
you could simply ctrl+alt+del, enter Administrator in the login prompt and a blank password and press enter on Windows XP.

LeCun fucking hates Zuck's gut huh?
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>>107743505
They should stop masturbating about stateless mathematical models (because both symbolic AI and neural networks are about logic and math not computing or programming) and start focusing on stateful programs that are actually agentic (in the original sense of the word not in the llm corrupted marketing sense) by having internal state, internal goals and a real model of the world (LeCun is right about this part), all of this not through mathematical models but through programming. If our current languages and databases are not enough then we should make progress there, for example by researching graph databases and new languages that make expressing complex and dynamic rules about the real world possible.
But corpos only want to sell their datacenter services, to them its a feature how inefficient LLMs are, and most researchers are not programmers they are stuck in their bubble of academia writing their papers in their ivory towers.
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>>107743634
This guy's proposed alternative to neural nets is better programming languages and databases.
Absolutely fucking kek.
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>>107743670
The connectionist idea that the brain is an input/output stateless machine is ridiculous and an insult to life.
Yes, the road to intelligence goes through stateful programming not through stateless mathematical models.
And yes, computer science has barely advanced at all in the last 40 years, but that's because all the resources are used on bullshit corporate or academic shit that is not even meant to advance it.
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>>107743698
Apparently, actually most advanced (human like AI) Neurosama was coded in python and it didn't learn from LLMs, but from twitch chats only. Basically mogging all "AIs" while being made from scratch. It's not the same kind of "AI" but looks more like intelligence than the other ones.
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>>107743634
Neuromorphic models work a lot better. They use local state and local mutation only, which lets them do tricks like learning things in real time. So far, they've mostly been used to study how human senses work and integrate with the brain, rather than shooting for intelligence (because understanding sensing is more immediately useful).
They're an absolute bitch to implement in normal hardware though, due to the comms bandwidth required, and GPUs are no use at all for them (it's just a different architectural model).

but why didn't he call it "Freedom Software" instead?
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because the acronym "FS" was already used for "filesystem"
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>>107741028
post the entire video faggot

that part when he eats smegma from his foot
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>>107742156
cool it with the antisemitism
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Freedom.

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Qualcomm's most advanced ARM chips now rival the performance of the Apple M5. Why hasn't Qualcomm opted to open source the drivers, enabling the creation of robust ARM Linux laptops? Do they have deal with Microsoft?
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>>107741844
You think poos can afford Apple products, are you retarded?
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>single-core
Are we still using MacOS Tiger or Windows XP?
Single core hasn't mattered in two decades, even web browsers spawn gazillion threads who work better on multi threaded cpus, most shit you do on apple machines is multimedia creation wich benefit from multi threading.
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>>107739299
>It’s not up to Qualcomm. You have to ask this mentally ill tranny
softbank owns arm now. so ask the japs.
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>>107741844
>binary "translators".
turning a man into a woman? already used extensively in linux, don't see what the problem is.
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>>107744894
>Single core hasn't mattered in two decades
Depends what you're doing. Ideally, you have good performance both for single-threaded and multithreaded code, and you're efficient enough that you don't get thermally throttled (with the help of whatever your cooling solution is).
From a software perspective, best is if you can do your thing quickly and let the computer go back to sleep, but not all apps can possibly work that way.

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>>107744680
is that like a personal chef or something? you dev for some rich dude in his house?
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>>107744732
I don't work as an external dev but on a company's own software product that's internally used so I don't need to track and report everything I do.
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>>107744732
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>>107744651
I'm 33 and have only had to use a time sheet at a summer internship I did. Everywhere else I just do work
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layoffs soon inshallah


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