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>>100092726
What is the use-case?

You know what they say.
Old habits die hard.

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MOUSEBROS RISE UP

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I'm so glad I switched from Gnome to KDE Plasma.

>>100092974
why did it take so long to unpack a 0 byte file

>>100092726
>xhe fell for the gnome meme

>>100092791
>In coming rant from "TheEvilSkeleton" on how an "inclusive" community matters more than having a usable desktop environment.

>>100092726
Are you incapable of clicking “extract” or are you just completely fucking retarded?

>>100093100
Found the gnomie

>20yo webm
tinkertroons are desperate

>>100093137
Why don't you post a webm to debunk the fud?

>>100092726
wow what a noob! should've used tar -xcvvnmmjgdsaghkkjhfasdadada instead

>>100092996
Yeah not sure why, probably something related to the file manager Dolphin. I just tried unpacking a 1 GB file now and it took 6 seconds.

>>100092726
loonix lol

>>100093170
too much effort

gnome already won and tinkertroons are a vocal minority

>>100093437
gnome is a joke. you are the laughing stock of the computer world.

>>100092996
I suspect it has to do with dolphin just not refreshing as quickly.
But something tells me after a while of using kde that the way kde does file operations is just not good.

>>100093137
Have they fixed it?

>>100093590
no. the previous thread has multiple people on modern installs with the same lack of function

>>100093659
Then it being 20 years old seems even worse

>>100092726
Keep gatekeeping Linux popularity Gnomies, fucking love you guys for it

>>100093100
Hi, ebussy! I'm a big fan of you!

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>>100092726
>>100092791
Just make your own and actually deliver.

Drag and drop in general has always been a fucking mess in most Linux "desktops" I've tried since forever, and every time I've commented it here I've been ebussy'd and gaslit with "lol who even uses drag and drop :)" or "werkz on me masheen :)" or similar.
I remain convinced that whoever is okay with the current state of Linux "desktops" as a whole has never used a proper desktop OS to its full extent, and can/will settle with the basics, ie. a shallow facsimile of what's supposed to be.
But hey, at least your can "rice it" and set a tranime wallpaper as a background to show other trooners how unique your neo-vagina is, right?

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>>100092726

>>100093100
A FUCKING FOOT

>>100092996
its kde. kde users wont notice

>>100092996
telemetry

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>>100093947
Now make your own vagina and actually deliver

dragging and dropping is like sucking your thumb. eventually you have to stop or everyone treats you like the retard you are

>>100092726
Thanks, but I'm sticking to KDE Plasma 5.27 on my Debian 12 install.

>>100092726
You dont need to do that. Are you mentally unwell?

>>100094628
Not a single tranny in the cosmic dev team. Try harder.

>>100093437
>gnome already won
Not for long

Are people really using gnome after the gnome3 disaster? Lol

>>100093039
>existing post describing a false dichotomy to push political views and is completely off topic

>>100092726
that cuts deep
you genuinely make me regret my life decisions

>>100093947
>TWO massive bars on the top and bottom

>linux desktop
nah I'm good lol

Ubuntu trying to purporte the idea of vertical taskbar is like when the rapper nelly used to wear a bandaid of his left cheek as a personal brand statement.

Perhaps you should stay in windows because linux is not windows.

>>100093947
enjoy not being able to play league with that new anti cheat

>>100093947
>macaco
>tranny
checks out

drag and drop is too advanced of a concept

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>>100092726
Works in MATE's Caja.
TOP KEK.
Fuck GNOME

>>100092726
classic gnome
just use the extract button lol

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>>100097192
>MATE
BASED!!!

>GNOME
TOPKEK

unrar x sample.zip

>>100093947
What does cosmic offer that I can't get from other DE?
Why not just work on the KDE project, it's already more lightweight than gnome and less prone to issues.

>>100096068
It's not a "Linux desktop" problem though, wintoddler, it's a GNOME problem. Literally works fine on every other DE environment.

>>100096396
Thanks, i got over the 12 y/o main character phase like 15 years ago. Don't need a shitty spyware on my kernel to larp as asuper special steampunk OC that effortlessly beats everything it wants on a shitty videogame.

>>100093947
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS IS SO GODDAMN UGLY AHHH I'M GOING TO VOMIT WHY ARE THE BORDERS SO FUCKING LARGE
>TOP AND BOTTOM BAR
AAAAAAAA I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THIS AHHH IT'S SO UGLYYY. HOWEVER, i'll give you props for making your own shit.

>>100097192
It works on every other DE because this is a very specific issue involving Wayland and GTK:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/issues/89
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/file-roller/-/issues/4

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>>100092726
>hmm, why isn't linux the market leader yet????

>>100097971
sure okay, I'm still good tho lmao

>>100092726
Subject: Concerns regarding the "Drag and Drop" feature in Linux Desktop Environments

Dear Gnome developers,

As we strive to create a more inclusive and accessible Linux desktop environment, we would like to bring to your attention a feature that has raised concerns among some users. The traditional "drag and drop" functionality, while convenient for many, can pose significant challenges for individuals with certain physical or motor impairments.

For individuals with limp wrists or other mobility-related disabilities, the act of dragging and dropping files or icons can be a cumbersome and frustrating experience. This is due to the requirement for precise finger movement, hand positioning, and wrist rotation, which can be difficult or even painful for those with limited mobility or dexterity.

In light of these concerns, we respectfully request that the "drag and drop" feature be temporarily disabled until further notice. This would allow us to re-evaluate the feature and explore alternative navigation methods that are more accessible and user-friendly for individuals with varying abilities.

We believe that this temporary measure would be a crucial step towards creating a more inclusive and accessible Linux desktop environment. By disabling the "drag and drop" feature, we can begin to address the potential barriers that may hinder the user experience for individuals with disabilities.

We urge you to consider our concerns and take immediate action to disable the "drag and drop" feature. We believe that this is a necessary step towards creating a more inclusive and user-friendly Linux desktop environment.

We look forward to your prompt attention to this matter.

Best regards,
The Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Linux Group (DEILG)

>>100094202
/\

>>100098191
>Wayland
And there it is.

>>100093778
No, what is worse is that this fucking shit worked alright 4 years ago, they explicitly decided to fuck it up and not fix it.

Man, GNOME, amirite
Look at that
That polish
Look at those windows
Faith in humanity restored

>>100098170
man I wish I saved an image that picked up/highlighted like 45 disgusting UI elements in a single screenshot from cosmic. I think it was made by an anon (or was it an orange Redditor)

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>>100094202
>>100092791
HAHAHAHAHA NONONO HOLYY SHIT I KNOW ITS A MEME FOR A GOOD REASON BUT AHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

>IS DRAG AND DROP ACTUALLY IMPORTANT? WHATS THE USE CASE
>>100098191

>>100099542
rough...

>>100099542
Oh ok, I guess I don't need it, thanks Ebussy

>>100099542
lel

>>100099542
>you don’t need that feature
Classic ebussy

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>>100099542
To be fair here's the full statement

>>100099542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n3pFFPSlW4
He even looks like a trolling gnome

>>100099542
He was installed so he could crash the plane with no survivors.

Gnome has been a blight on linux adoption for over a fucking decade if not multiple decades at this point

>>100099542
Can someone please tell me this isn't real. I feel sick.

>>100098191
>wayland and gtk
Not surprised, why are people still using this trannyware?

>>100099737
if he only said pt 2 I'd basically agree, but to even ask point 1 is so fucking retarded. like, why even bring that up? yes drag and drop is important hence why it's implemented everywhere.

sure, it needs to be worked on by someone but that he brought that question up just shows you that he's at least somewhat skeptical of having work done on fucking DRAG AND DROP.


at least KrashDE devs will acknowledge that such a core bug or feature is important but that a lack of resources is to blame. instead of that smug retarded "asking le questions" for every. single. feature. that's missing.

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>>100099926
It's not like Red Hat pays them to work on this

>>100099926
Point 2 is also dubious because file-roller DID support drag and drop.
What was wrong with the previous implementation?
Did it get removed accidentally because it was automatically built with some library they are no longer using or something?
Or was it removed intentionally because there was a technical issue?

>>100093437
GNOME is being dropped by many distros for KDE. GNOME is a mess supported by legacy enterprise clients which is what their so called Human Interface Design is targeted at. Any consumer facing product that runs Linux either uses KDE, XFCE or a heavily modified GNOME.

>>100093100
Ebussy, give me an autograph!

>>100099775
>for over a fucking decade if not multiple decades at this point
I was using Ubuntu from when it launched in 2004. Gnome was fine back then. And it was fine for a few years at least after that. The inflection point for me was around 2012. When they'd decided that Gnome needs to work on tablets, and they kept lobotomizing stuff that worked fine on the desktop to try to cater for "use cases" that nobody cared about. That was it for me. It was around that time that I remember forks of Gnome became popular. I never went back to Gnome after 2012. Which is why it's amusing to see this Gnome guy saying "you don't need that feature", after Gnome ripped out features that people actually used to the point where people were just frustrated with them.

>>100097330
KDE is ugly and broken, GNOME is barebones and retarded.
Making something new was the only solution.

>>100100476
Why does Red Hat keep supporting such DE? I honestly don't know who is the target audience of GNOME.

>>100100476
00s Ubuntu was the "pretty much werks" distro that was similar enough to the Win9x-XP way of thinking so noobs could find their way around most things.
Now I run Xunbuntu on mom's facebook machine that just starts Firefox.

>>100092726
I'm so glad I fell for the wm only meme.
I' don't have to deal with 99% of the bullshit these poorly maintained repos offer.

>>100100666
All for the convergence of a hypothetical tablet based future which for real real already happened in 2014.

>>100100751
Kek what's funny is that KDE works better on Tables and Phones thanks to better scaling.

>>100100642
KDE is not broken and if you don't like the look of it, then that's entirely a skill issue you can fix

>>100099542
>>100099737
And that's why community projects are a meme.
Hopefully COSMIC, which is being made by an actual company that profits from the Linux desktop, won't have that problem.

>>100100252
>GNOME is being dropped by many distros for KDE
Such as?

>>100099737
didn't they receive like 10 million dollars from some EU agency to develop their shitty softwares?

>>100100642
>>100100777
Stop living in denial. KDE is seriously broken. It always shits itself or shits the software it is running one way or another. At least gnome is stable.

>>100092726
Just use terminal for file management…

>>100092726
niggers that can't use the terminal deserve the most harsh of the punishments, I'm all for gnoo loonix to be just like that
WONTFIX
DEALWITHIT
DILATE

>>100092726
this is just linux in general. everything is buggy as shit and nothing can just be polished and work

linux is only for work simple as

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please understanding big xirs, not having resources, we are just volunteers xirs

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>>100102221
Was this before or after the holy million?

>>100102221
what's the use case for painting SciFi figurines? also, is he christian Lebanese? it's the only ethnicity that I can think of considering the odd name

>>100102283
I don't know the history, but that's a pretty basic Italian name, anon.

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>>100093100
You can't do this

why is linux like this?

>>100099737
ebussy is right

Does Gnmoe 46 have thumbnails now? I saw a video of some hue dveloper years ago showing Gnome fixing the thumbnail meme.

>>100102356
Yes but the previews are only rendered in the file picker if they've been rendered in Nautilus before.

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>>100102221

>>100102316
Ohh that could make sense. it's the Bassi that threw me off but it is Italian true. I've never seen any Italian bro that acted like ebussy does though. it's not even that he's rude or retarded, it's that he's always so faggy about it too

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>>100102740
Ebussy! Dodge!
The chuds are trying to g- andasoikdjnmaso dikanjdoiasjdoihjasiodjasodij

>>100100066
>asks relevant question about funding
>"This issue is getting a bit heated."
sounds about right for an ibm subsidiary

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>>100102886
this makes sense because indians are literally europeans with dark skin

>>100101945
All Gnome/GTK devs get paid 180k a year from Red Hat and they got 1m from a tech fund and then before that another 1m from some anonymous rich guy and so on and on and they still cry being underfunded and being poor volunteers

>>100103183
wtf how do I become a GNOMEr

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>>100103183
Big if true

>>100101976
>At least gnome is stable
The complete opposite for me, kde is usually rock solid while gnone 46 is so fucking bad it literally crashes on me constantly to the point it's literally impossible to be used.

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>>100103194
It's a tough job...

>>100099542
i would argue that drag and drop EXTRACTION (most people in this thread cant read) is not an important feature at all. but maybe thats just me. feels like complaining why there isnt a "screen time" feature - who the fuck actually needs that?

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>>100103194
It's not easy

>>100099737
>Why don't they read the comments saying why it's not possible
>Not possible to do something that literally worked just fine 3 years ago and they purposefully broke
And this is why nobody takes the gnome lunatics seriously.

>>100103256
>>100103276
the thing is, they're unironically not wrong
but GNOME has always planned so far ahead into the future that it's hard to understand their choices in the present
they have to work with limited resources and it makes sense to sacrifice many things in the present in order to be more agile in the future

>>100103171
>europeans with dark skin
>Only difference is that they're so low IQ they can't stop themselves from gangraping european women, having proper hygiene, cleaning the streets or even not shitting on them
This has to be the most retarded post here, all dark skinned people are, by design, inferior to europeans because they will never have the same intelligence levels and white skinned people, which will make them live in perpetual poverty.

>>100103402
>gangraping european women, having proper hygiene, cleaning the streets or even not shitting on them
they're like white europeans in that sense but 1000 years before
it's only a matter of time before they catch up to their white european brothers and overtake them
with technology and hindsight, there is no stopping India,
black europeans will rise

>>100103433
>black
>european
Pick one.

>>100103387
>but GNOME has always planned so far ahead into the future that it's hard to understand their choices in the present
Do they really?

>>100103630
France is in Europe.

autoscroll only on browsers and sometimes needing an extension. so stupid

>>100102221
>Londener
Now it makes sense

>>100092726
out of curiosity I've been trying gnome for the past week.

i like how clean it looks. that's about it. this fucking shit sucks and the people hosting it suck. gimped themeing and not even an option to drag shit on the desktop, this sucks.

>>100103387
This is iToddler, cumguzzling cult mentality.

They are not thinking ahead, they prepared themselves for a touchscreen explosion that never happened. They. Fucked Up. Back in 2014 or so, people were overhyping touchscreen desktop PCs as the future. Even Windows 8 was supposed to be touchscreen-oriented. But those PCs were shit. People prefer to have a mouse and keyboard when possible. The desktop touchscreen was a dumb fad idea that never caught on.

Winblows realized they fucked up and tossed the whole touchscreen functionality to a minor role in Win 10 and 11 but these Gnomebrained tards keep digging their heels in. It's OK to admit you fucked up. People fuck up. The future they predicted never came.

>>100105108
>This is iToddler, cumguzzling cult mentality.
It also happened when they were given feedback more than a decade ago. They were channeling the myth of Steve Jobs, and decided they didn't need to listen to actual users. Just have a "vision", stick to it, and ignore all negative feedback, since they don't know what they're talking about.

That's why Gnome is in the state it's in. They never learned from any of the feedback. They are still saying: "if you want this, submit a patch for it" in 2024.

People had noticed this shit as far back as 2011:
https://lobste.rs/s/ky5yop/gnome_has_no_thumbnails_file_picker_my#c_4sbrjl

They tell people to submit them, but they don't even bother to look at them.

>>100094202
Kek, Durgasoft final boss

>>100103272
the thing is, every single file manager can at least try or tell you to extract it first. not just fail silently and do fuck all. ideally it shouldn't even be a real problem, for example on windows explorer it just handles your input (say, if you open a zip and then click on an executable) as a silent command to extract, but it does so in a temp folder until you actually extract it. It's just a trivial feature in terms of UX.


even if he thinks it isn't, he shouldn't just pull shit out of his ass with retarded questions. like, there's no possible reply to that question because he has no sources, you have no sources, so it's just a way to stall and kill the discussion.

If you bring up other DEs, they'll tell you gnome doesn't have to follow stuff, if you say that users probably like it they will say you don't know that blablabla.

>>100092726
I like GNOME, and I use it cause it's well-designed and the workflow fits me as a former Mac user.

However, I have no emotional attachment to desktop environments and I can't relate to the people who get all assmad about it.

Competition is good. Even if you're not a GNOME user, its existence benefits you since it's competing with the other DEs. The end result is that every DE is better.

>>100093203
actually it's just
unzip sample-zip-file.zip /home/username/

>>100099542
incredible

>>100092726
This is the power of GNU/Linux and it's open source contributor model. Go fork yourself

>>100103402
>Indians come to USA
>Usually extremely educated, hard working, disciplined, become CEOs, engineers, doctors
>Speak pretty good English since they are forced to learn and use it from birth
>Integrate very quickly and children are culturally indistinguishable from others of the host country besides their racial phenotype
>Mexicans come to USA
>Immediately increase the crime rate of any area they migrate to
>Never learn English and speak Spanish in a loud, disgusting, annoying accent, relative to most Hispanics
>Never integrate, only hanging out with other Mexicans
>Too dumb to get jobs without affirmative action
>Somehow Indians are way more hated than Mexicans

>>100103272
What are you smoking. Extraction is like the first feature anything working with compressed files would implement. Then navigation (at least for formats that don't require full uncompress to read contents). And if you support navigation into a container, may as well add the ability to extract single files. And if your graphical file browser supports drag and drop it should support drag anddrop extraction

>>100099542
Sometimes I wonder if he really thinks that way or it's because Microsoft pays him to run linux into the ground.

>>100100972
Endeavour os, Nobara, SLES, PopOS.

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Should Microsoft extend GNOME?

>>100099542
lmao

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>>100107616
Lets embrace it fully

>>100099542
Its incredible to the extent this guy goes to avoid at all costs the idea of having to work for once in his life instead of riding on free gibs from a foundation shielding his incompetence with 'MUH ACCESIBILITY' at every turn, it goes beyond even the most silly of memes, fucking unreal

>>100107662
They're dead. They were tried for genocide in India, found guilty and executed. The lower two are paid actors. The one on the right used to be some half famous male actor.

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>>100107724
Why would india have jurisdiction of those 2 americans?

>>100107554
>PopOS
>KDE
wut

>>100107791
Whoops i mean SteamOS

>>100107782
For vaccine damage. The Indian government didn't ask permission from the USA, they just kidnapped them. At least that's the conspiracy theory suggested to explain the faces.

>>100100066
oy vey!

>>100095961
read
>>100099542

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Why are users reporting claustrophobia within GNOME?

>>100108138
They gave 20,000 children polio. That's fucked up.

>>100108138
This FSB bot is broken.

>>100094202
Lmao

>>100094202
i dont get it

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KDE passes

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>>100102740
>>100102886
Now he looks more british.

>>100099542
Lmaooo

>>100106589
>Too dumb to get jobs without affirmative action
Which ones are you talking about here?
Because indians almost always hire indians

>>100095961
41% yourself tessy
https://tesk.page/2024/03/31/coming-out-as-trans/
https://tesk.page/about/

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>>100106607
Why are Microsoft employees not only trannies, but also queer indigenous, non-binary Two Spirit Warrior Queens?

>>100109921
>mindbroken by troons to the point of being non functional
Incredible.

>>100092996
>>100094243
>>100093269
Blame whatever zip library it's using. If it's Zlib then that's well known to be shit. Fedora is switching to Zlib-ng with Fedora 40.

>>100110226
>zlib is a library to work with .zip files
Deranged shit you only hear here.

>>100110243
These are all the dependencies of Ark. It uses either libarchive (Which in turn uses Zlib) or Zlib:

kde-apps/ark-9999:
 [  0]  kde-apps/ark-9999
 [  1]  app-arch/libarchive-3.7.3
 [  1]  dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.0-r1
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kcompletion-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kconfig-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kconfigwidgets-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kcoreaddons-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kcrash-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kdbusaddons-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kfilemetadata-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/ki18n-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kio-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kjobwidgets-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kparts-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kpty-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kservice-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kwindowsystem-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kxmlgui-9999
 [  1]  sys-libs/zlib-1.3.1-r1
 [  1]  dev-libs/libzip-1.9.2
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kiconthemes-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/breeze-icons-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/oxygen-icons-9999
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kf-env-5
 [  1]  sys-devel/gettext-0.22.5
 [  1]  app-arch/rar-7.00
 [  1]  app-alternatives/ninja-1
 [  1]  dev-build/cmake-3.29.2
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/kdoctools-9999
 [  1]  dev-libs/libpcre2-10.43
 [  1]  kde-frameworks/extra-cmake-modules-9999
 [  1]  dev-vcs/git-2.44.0
 [  1]  dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.27-r1
 [  1]  x11-misc/shared-mime-info-2.4-r1

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>>100096058
You can remove both of them.

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>>100092791
Having a normal functioning desktop environment, but that may interfere with your feature removal fetish.

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>>100098170
You can control the border size and panels
see >>100110680

>>100097330
built in tiling. that is surprisingly similar to what you'll find in hyprland.
here's a short vid i made yesterday

>>100105108
>>Winblows realized they fucked up and tossed the whole touchscreen functionality to a minor role in Win 10 and 11
Not even Win 10, they did that in the early Win 8.1 desu

>make new ebussy thread on /g/
>laugh until I'm tired
>go to sleep
>wake up
>this isn't my room
>I'm on an operating table
>my arms and legs are tied up
>ebussy approaches
>revs up chainsaw
>"You don't need it"
>saws my right arm off
>blood gushes everywhere
>unbearable pain
>"What's the use case for this?"
>saws off my dick
>scream uncontrollably
>"This situation is getting heated, I recommend slowing down"
>pass out
>...
>wake up
>"My work here is done"
>lets me off the operating table
>ebussy is so big now
>he brings me a mirror
>stare in awe
>I am tiny
>a red pointy hat is placed upon my head
>I have become... a gnome

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>>100093947
>troon
>discord

Majority of all linux users are wintoddlers at hart and are still stuck in the windows desktop paradigm: bottom bar + start button + systray.

Ebussy is the finest of trolls; he doesn't care about snowflakes crying over the inability to rice their desktop into a pedo-cartoon waifu. He will laughingly exclaim "what's the usecase" and then shit on your feelings and nostalgia.

>>100103272
I'm sure I could do this back in the 90s using winrar but you do you

>>100092726
ok, doing this and looking at thumbnails in the file picker are two things no normal person will ever do.
get a life and stop pretending GNOME is bad.

>>100099542
>>100099737
what a fucking joke
why is this guy in charge again?

>>100106246

As opposed to just dragging it.

>>100098629
It's thoughtful and considerate emails like this that have driven Gnome's new accessibility architecture. Gnome actually listens to real concerns, as opposed to the emotional outbursts of the entitled that enjoy making noise about features that aren't even needed. YNGI is a concept that junior devs and idea guys don't seem to get. The concept of subtracting to make Gnome better goes over their heads and it's tiresome to have to keep explaining it over and over.

>>100103183
>>100112336
I fail to see how this is relevant. Gnome is understaffed as it is. Spreading disinformation like this simply isn't helpful and discourages donations that are sorely needed.

is endeavourOS good

>>100113864
Nothing wrong with it

>>100095630
not what he was reffering to, look at the desktop of the cosmic user

>>100092791
Drag-and-drop is a useful tool in user interfaces because it allows users to easily move, copy, or select items without having to manually enter information.

>>100107724
based
explains why they "divorced" too
also gate's daughter loves bbc

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>>100112712
Why do you fucks complain all the time? Are you all women or HRT victims? This amazing diatribe of GNOME dev cope is never done by KDE devs with less funding. What made you all such walking vaginas?

GNOME is garbage, but it's the only garbage I can find usable on Linux

>>100110701
I can do this on KDE not to this degree but why would I need to tile my windows this hard in this type of DE?
Also if this is the case why wouldn't I just use a tiling window manager?

>>100103387
Is that why we're still waiting for thumbnails in the file picker even though multiple people have tried to submit patches to make it work?

>>100105108
>Even Windows 8 was supposed to be touchscreen-oriented.
Windows 8 was designed by middle managers in powerpoint. That's why it had that flat look, they were drawing rectangles on a grid in powerpoint. That was also when that dumb idea of removing features (like the start button) to try to cater for tablets really picked up speed.

At least Microsoft eventually learned from their mistakes. The Gnome team just doubles down to the point where people just have enough of their BS and stop using it.

>>100117748
See the link in >>100105552

>>100109147
The world is indeed more financially stable without Bill Gates. India did us a service. The paid actors are our operatives given the task of suppressing irrational outrage over the lawful execution of an international terrorist.

>>100109542
pajeet dot mark

>>100111063
Nah, it was the entire start menu in 8.1, you had to use a third party app to have a normal start menu.

>>100118708
The company finding and disrupting your state's hacking operations hasn't been led by that guy for 20 years. Your constant desperate smear campaign is completely misdirected and pointless.

>>100113864
If you want something easy, don't use anything Arch based.

>>100119041
Financial Stability will be achieved, whatever the cost.

>>100103402
ever heard of the term indo-european?
retarded poltard

>>100119290
You could just find a job, useless.

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>>100092726
>>100092974
>be me
>have desktop PC
>install EndeavourOS + KDE Plasma
>go to adjust display brightness/gamma
>search system settings

>only find power options with no brightness control
>google it
>see posts suggesting to install software
>just to be able to change brightness
i guess there has never been a use case for changing your display settings huh? and this isn't even gnome...

>>100120340
wow kde is modular and you or your shit distribution didnt come with a full installation
you are a retard and should use windows

>>100120360
>You need to install the powerdevil package.
>In terminal just do:
>sudo pacman -S powerdevil
Uhh yeah, that's some random third party app. Why doesn't KDE come with basic functionality out of the box? What's next, installing an individual app to have a volume slider?

>>100120340
you are a prime example of the problem with arch installers

>>100120399
it really sucks when people expect software to work :)

in what world would i use an operating system and not want the option to change my gamma? what is the point of that not being included by default?

>>100120388
>third party app
Is this this "third party" in the room with us right now, anon?

>>100106589
hispanics are not a case for white inferiority because they are not white. their portugese and spaniard conquistador rapist ancestors were the product of moorish invaders acting out the same invasion and rape of the southern iberian peninsula
for example, in mexico today the ydna haplogroups E-M215, E-V38, E-U175, E-M191, and E-U174 are examples of strains which have direct patrilineal descent from moorish invaders

>>100120388
>random third party app
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/powerdevil
>>100120414
top notch bait or goycattle
using arch derivatives as your first distribution is completely retarded
linux sucks, please go back to windows

>>100120465
i was wrong about powerdevil being third party. but it turns out that apparently kgamma and powerdevil don't do shit with plasma + wayland
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/issues/11

>>100120691
yes, linux sucks

>>100094628
wicked burn dude

>>100120708
i'm enjoying it besides not being able to adjust my gamma

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>>100120691
>>100120340
Kgamma doesn't do shit for display brightness. Adjust that with DDCI, although you need a third-party kernel module because Linux is shit at exposing this properly to applications:
https://gitlab.com/ddcci-driver-linux/ddcci-driver-linux

Gddci works without this though:

>>100120942
*Gddcontrol, not Gddci (that's not a thing)

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>>100120340
> pacman -Syu plasma-desktop
> just works (both desktop and laptop)

>>100121307
interesting. maybe it's endeavour OS, or my monitor or something.
>>100120942
will try that

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>>100102263
Would.

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Are gnome devs binary compatible?

>>100120340
S+ tier bait.

Why do you think it's called an Arch-based distribution, retard? It's supposed to be modular and DIY. If you are not into that go for a Debian-based distro.

>>100093947
brazilian sopa user spotted

I switched to KDE from Gnome, disabled screen locking and my TV completely loses any signal from my PC after a while. No keyboard shortcut nor using the power button does anything. I have to pull out the power plug. I have never seen anything like this in years of using Gnome.

>>100122802
After no activity? Check power saving shit.

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https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-music/-/issues/343
>too easy for the user to reach it
TAKE IT DOWN

>>100099542
it's funny because it falls into le ebussy meme, but at the same time he's right
you can already extract only specific files, so most of the functionality is there anyway. is this really a big enough deal to devote dev time to?

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>>100123099
That reminds me of how ebussy thinks not using the filename as the title of the song when there is no name in the metadata is a feature.

>>100104865
install dash-to-panel and desktop icons and it's essentially the windows 10 experience without the windows 10 garbage

>>100123222
Then you know it's un-tagged and you fix it instead of continuing having bad files

>>100092726
lol

>>100124299
being invested in correcting metadata for music downloads is an autistic bugman behavior

>>100123099
>>100123222
What's wrong with these retards? (The ones depicted in the pics I mean)

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>Fingers crossed so the gnome devs decide to add a volume slider to their music application

>>100124926
Its amazing how they manage to fuck up even things that have been tried and tested for decades going back to actual physical music players.

>>100110281
The .zip format is implemented by libarchive itself, libzip and unzip, depending on the tool you use. Zlib is the library counterpart for Gzip and the .gz format, though it also implements deflate compression, typically used in .zip (though it seems libarchive supports various nonstandard compression formats in its .zip implementation)

https://github.com/libarchive/libarchive/blob/master/libarchive/archive_read_support_format_zip.c

I'm closing this issue as no use case was provided
#won'tfix

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>>100123099
>What is the use case for a music player to have independent volume controls from the rest of the OS
Jesus fucking christ
This is mental retardation. Have any of these retards ever used a computer?

>>100125240
It's too complicated
GNOME gives you a centralized place to mix all your audio
As envisioned by Allan Day on his LSD trip

>>100100963
>iced

>>100092726
if gnome is so bad, why is everyone using it?

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>>100126225
The ship is sinking. Ebussy pretended to be a woman and got away in a lifeboat

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>>100125463
>imagine having to open their settings "app" to change volume individually instead of giving users an option to do it from whatever application they are using
I swear some autistic retard will start killing gnome developers one by one.

>>100092996
Because the file is monitored for changes, once changes are detected, the kernel delivers the change signal whenever it wants to, and it triggers a relisting of the archive's content.
The kernel notification mechanism is built to avoid naive polling for file changes, as it would require constantly accessing the file system to check for file metadata, and the content could change itself without a change to the metadata, required the polling to read the whole file. It's not optimized for latency but to unload useless efforts.

>>100099737
Nothing wrong with what he said. Unless you're posting a fix then why the fuck are you there? Just bitching? Fuck off and do something useful.

>>100123099
this guy is being facetious to make fun of ebussi here right

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>>100127105
It would be a very elaborate shitpost

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>>100092726
>>100093170
fake and gay

>>100126455
this got rejected instantly

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>>100098629

This but unironically.

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>>100099542

>CODE IT YOUR SELF OR YOU DON'T NEED IT

This is why Linux is a joke. There is no cohesive approach to UI development. It just a bunch of edge lords re-inventing the wheel over and over while competing for the most e-fame.

>>100100476

>When they'd decided that Gnome needs to work on tablets

Yes, and they are still focusing GNOME for touch to this day. I never understood this because you can't install Linux on tablets and Linux doesn't support touch screens.

I assume they were/are absolutely SEETHING about the success of Google's Android OS and trying to compete but it's just retarded.

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>>100127650
>and Linux doesn't support touch screens
Uhhh

>>100092806
>An executive running linux?

>>100094067
Windows was always mediocre and needed LiteStep to make it good.

MacOS is worse than GNOME with the Think Different™ gaslighting.
>maximize button doesn't maximize
>minimize button doesn't minimize
>close button doesn't close

Plan 9 and BeOS are okay though.

>>100127531
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>100127914
>I know what you're thinking

>>100127531
gnome sisters we're so back

>>100127783

1. YWNBAW

2. While android is technically Linux it's more of a fork owned by Google. You can't install vanilla Linux of touch devices.

>>100127783
average gnomie

>>100127978
That's postmarketos with phosh (gnome mobile) you tard.
However you are right about he will never be a woman

>>100117527
> I can do this on KDE not to this degree but why would I need to tile my windows this hard in this type of DE?
god i wish polonium worked well
> Also if this is the case why wouldn't I just use a tiling window manager?
because configuring twms really sucks. It's a hacky combination of multiple programs.
I would know as I have my own dotfiles.

>>100125172
Pretty much everyone uses libarchive, although KDE also has their own Karchive which wraps things further.

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>>100127783
>painted nails
YWNBAW albeit

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>>100121349
I'm running endeavour with wayland and I have brightness. Didnt install anything special afaik. Hope you get it figured out.

>>100127531
uhhh antignomexisters??? our response????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcbGyRwkiZo

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Imagine spending hours of your day arguing about Linux Desktop environments

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>>100127783

>>100127783
that massive unmistakeably male thumb with tranny paint on is just hilarious

>>100097192
but does mate have touchpad gestures?

>>100125883
>(n)iced

>>100099891
>>100098910
It's not a Wayland issue, it works on KDE. It's a GNOME issue.

There are Wayland protocols for drag and drop, they have no excuses for shipping a broken product.

>>100129901
rip troon gnomie

Why is drag and drop such a problem?
I remember when I first tried macOS, the faggotest OS if we listen to /g/, and drag and drop worked everywhere for fucking everything. Things you wouldn't normally do on Windows because they don't just work, would on macOS by drag and drop. It's like they fucking loved that feature so they had to put it fucking everywhere. But on GNOME it's the polar opposite.

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>>100132260
It's not a problem. It's just retards who don't know anything about UI design telling you what you "should" want.
Meanwhile on Plasma drag and drop works in almost as many places as it does in macOS.

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>>100092806
>>100127914
>>100127943

>>100092726
mv /sample.txt ~

Problem I have with GNOME is scaling works weird so it's better to just increase font sizes
Problem I have with KDE Plasma is that scaling works weird but also font sizes, it looks like dogshit either way, so I'm stuck at 100% on 1440p

>>100132286
plasma doesn't have a search function in the filepicker, I want that

>>100132487
Organise your files properly. Search is for retards

>>100132577
Hello ebus--- wait a minute

>>100132487
I haven't used KDE in a long while but can't you do CTRL+F/CTRL+I? It's not as if gn*me has any functional search.

>>100132584
You know I'm right.
GNOME's file picker always annoyed me when I start typing and the whole thing re-flows and does a search instead of jumping to the the file/directory that matches.

>>100132599
Nope, doesn't work
And gnome got global search on 46

>>100101976
I haven't had a KDE issue in the 4 years I've been using it. Sounds like you're just a retard.

>>100132609
File search and tagging are really useful to have, I'm just saying it's amazingly ironic that you would act exactly as gnome users used to when asked about thumbnails in the file picker, with the argument of "just organize your files better", except they don't go around boasting about having a seemingly infinite amount of features.

>>100132771
KDE has tags. Use them, it's better than searching through piles of crap.

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>>100099542
>laughs in xfce
Somebody needs to spend less time being a shit 'dev' in denial and more time working in fucking retail where they belong aahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA

>>100132777
I'd use them if the system that Dolphin has wasn't primitive as fuck. It's barely any more useful, try excluding tags while searching for some.

>>100094628
HAHAH THAT BURN WENT HARD AF BRO

>>100092726
Is this the new blacked? Are linuxtroons finally getting gnomed by BGC (BIG GNOME COCK)???

>>100103402
evidence?

>>100120388
It literally does. It's in settings. You're just fucking retarded.

>>100092726
What version of Ubuntu is this? Narcoleptic Nigger?

>>100132469
I'm at 125 on 1080p and it works perfectly. Sounds like you're a tard.

>>100133196
Grandma?

More like Linux-ed

>>100094628
sisters... not like this

>>100111959
yeah, but windows literally perfected GUI

mac is shit for a reason

>>100133206
1080p looks small on a 14 inch screen

>>100132896
It's primitive because the whole thing is based off of xattrs and shoehorned into it. We really need tags at the filesystem level. Imagine if UNIX wasn't so shit.

>can't drag and drop
>can't draw a circle
>can't exit out of text editor
loonix experience

>>100134250
Only in GNOME. It's a little embarrassing that every so called "user friendly" distribution has decided to hoist that onto newcomers. It's no wonder they walk away with a bad impression.

>>100134313
>implying it happened by accident
>he doesn't know how deep the redhat rot goes
>the debian vote
>the linux foundation
>systemd in the kernel
gangbang/troonix is done for
openbsd is the only good unix operating system at the moment (not that gnubloat was ever posix)
alpine linux as a compromise

>>100132609
>>100132577
Nah it is a cop-out. If your organisation includes folders then you still need search. Filtering only works in the current folder so ironically NOT organising your files is better for filtering as opposed to search.

>>100134462
If you organise your files properly then you don't need filtering. You can go straight to your bookmark and find it immediately.

>>100099542
you can't hate ebussy enough

>>100102221
>muh new and hekkin artisanal bodegas!
>muh sci fi models!
>muh tv shows
Holy fucking nigger shit

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>>100121349
are you on laptop by any chance? because i had to manually add my monitor to be detected otherwise brightness control wouldn't work

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gnome just works

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>>100135341
>IT
>JUST
>WORKS

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>>100135341
>not knowing keyboard shortcut to paste
>not knowing how to quickly navigate terminal

>>100135393
i do it out of habit

ctrl v to paste
ctrl c to copy

>>100135416
ctrl+shift, not just ctrl
learn bash shortcuts

>>100135416
>>100135479
>Not using Shift+Fn+Insert

>>100135479
>learn bash shortcuts
you mean gnu readline/emacs
it's cancer. ctrl/shift + arrowkeys/backspace and the other trvdvtvvnvl shortcuts are good intuitive modeless keys that everyone knows. THIS OR vi mode

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>>100129901
>unironic transvestites among you
please go get some therapy dawg

>>100136032
Unironically skill issue, the command prompt is not a modal editor.

>>100136066
>Unironically skill issue
explain how alt-d makes sense
also powershell does non-gnu modeless
>the command prompt is not a modal editor
https://man.openbsd.org/man1/ksh.1#Vi_editing_mode

>>100136148
>how alt-d makes sense
Same thing as delete, but with an easy to reach key chord.
>vi mode
If it were good, it would be the default.

>>100136176
mixing ctrl/alt for moving and erasing is utterly retarded, i don't enjoy memorizing arbitrary nonsense

>>100136254
>I can't memorize a dozen key chords
That's some really bad brain damage.

>>100136288
i have more important things to think about than what some toe fungus eating autist made up in his fartchamber
nobody sane uses emacs for editing anyway, and you don't need complex movements in the command line most of the time so you WILL forget half of them and will have to consult your quirky tinker troon shortcut guide >>100135393 on your wall. pussy repellant deluxe kek
chads use vi

>>100135341
Meanwhile normalchads just hit download on thier YouTube Premium account and it just werks with 1 click of a button

>>100136713
Except it doesn't. They can delete your videos and stop them from working offline. Also you're paying for something that's free.

>>100126455
nigger fedora is literally Redhat. RH makes for like 6/8 of the leading committee or whatever their """"community"""" title is. why the fuck would you think they'd move to KDE when fedora is a beta test program from RHEL and clearly, rhel will never ever not use something that they didn't make.

>>100127531
is that Ubuntu? Ubuntu has its own skin and modded gnome that makes upstream seethe

>>100137897
Fedora is supposed to be independent from Red Hat, they're a "community" distribution.

In practice, they are completely and utterly beholden to them.

>>100099542
/g/ is full of shitposting tards that don't know how to program but they are spot on when it comes to ebussy as well as gnome and red hat devs.