So where are millions of compsci graduates gonna get a job from
>>100167637they will make excellent drone operators and satellite imaging techs
>>100167637They should learn French right before LLMs replace all professional translators.
>>100167637Ha !Je suis bilingue et parle déjà français !Laissez tomber c'est déjà trop tard !
For those who can't bother to read the article, the central theme is that CS degrees shouldn't just be within engineering schools, but instead should incorporate humanities. The author seems to have gone to a university that offered two types of CS degrees, one which required a couple of semesters of a foreign language, and the other of which had... different requirements. I skimmed it, but I'm guessing it was more math classes. Basically, a BA vs BS in CS, and the author wants to see more BAs in CS because they might have some extra education in humanities and be less willing to do all the hyper fucked up shit that tech companies engage in.The problem with this thinking is that all of the actual business decisions are not made by computer scientists. And the people who *do* the evil shit... usually have humanities education. They simply choose to either ignore it or use it to profit.
>>100168843tbf in a perfect world all bachelor’s degrees would have a decent amount of humanities. Highly specializing for a bachelor’s is silly and it can be highly beneficial to learn stuff outside your field.Oh course today humanities is just all faggot shit.
>>100168885Well, where I went for my bachelors, we had this shit called GURs. General University Requirements. Everyone needed a certain amount of humanities stuff, but you could pick and choose a bit, so I kinda supplemented my computer science degree with a bit of economics. It has done fuck all for me, because I went on to work on a PhD (which I am close to finishing) that doesn't particularly concern itself with anything outside of CS, but it was a fun class nonetheless I guess.
MAKKUDONARUDO. NEED MORE NERDY CHUD WORKER AT MAKKU - YEAH NIGGER, DO COMPUTER SCIENE SHIT ON THE HAMBURGER COMPUTER, MOTHERFUCKER, AIN'T NO BODY GONNA REPLACE 'EM. OUR MAKKURUDONARUDO IS IN DEEP DESPAIR, IN NEED OF WORK.
>>100168934economics is just applied statistics, causal inference is used a lot in economics and applicable to CS. So is game theory.
>>100167637>The Atlanticlmao
>>100168885>Oh course today humanities is just all faggot shit.Form anon's summary, that's the point. Not enough brainwashing in cs.
Little IT nerds should have gone into Business and gotten a fake job where you work 2 hours a day and then read facebook for 6 hours.Have fun crawling under the desk and smelling Chad's cock as you fix his ethernet.Sorry! HAHAHAHAHA
>>100169053dumbass, you're next after hr is finished getting fucked by ai shit.
>>100167637TOTAL CS GRAD DEATH
>We should force students who want to do useful things to take classes in our useless bombed out humanities (which they have to already)Nope, saw it. Wrore papers about why my tiny white penis makes me so violent and genocidal, as instructed. There's nothing there, they killed it, they blew it up, STEM should actively disengage as much as possible without exception, it really is that simple, lets call a spade a spade
>>100168843the only people who can teach you to be "ethical" are your parents, university is too late for this.
>>100168885Nah, that's just a waste of time.
I'm glad I live in Germany, no retarded classes needed for my CS degree. The closest I got to a BA subject was a design class and even that is related to programming. I'm baffled that Americans have to take any courses that aren't programming or math, like languages or sociology classes.
>>100169053Why is CS lumped in with IT, but Software Development is separate?!
>>100169308You sound mad because you got a big whiff of cock under the desk.I'm really sorry that happened to you. Let me know if I'm making you uncomfortable, I'll stop teasing you
>>100168843Humanities are what taught me to hate others and that ethics are flexible when the goals of activism are involved.
Keep in mind that pic related was a humanities professor who tried to get a journalism student physically assaulted for covering part of protests that she didn't want them to see.
>>100170643Humanities teach no such thing. Stop pushing your uninformed alt-right Nazi views.
>>100170425however made this is clearly clueless
>>100168843>For those who can't bother to read the articleIt is behind a pay wall.But enlighten us, oh intellectual who's above us plebs.>I skimmed itSTFU then.
Learning a foreign language at university it utter retarded.University education is super expensive.I learned 3 foreign languages at "high school".When you're young you pick up languages faster and school teachers are cheap.If I wanted to learn more languages I would follow some online course or something, you don't need a professor telling you to memorize words.
>>100169053>read facebook for 6 hoursThat sounds even worse than writing Enterprise Java.
>>100167637Only nepobabies gets to work in their initial field all of their life.Those youngsters will have to take odd jobs, like everyone else.
>>100170662It's not the 1950s anymore and no amount of gaslighting is going to make people unsee what they have seen.
If they're going to offer Bachelor of Arts degrees, shouldn't they call it something different than Computer Science? BA in Computer Artistry, Software Crafting or something like that.
>>100170786>It is behind a pay wallPut archive.is/ right in front of the URL. Try again.
>>100168843>they might have some extra education in humanities and be less willing to do all the hyper fucked up shit that tech companies engage in.That's a ridiculous logical jump desu. The assumption that being educated in the humanities will make you a good person is absurd. How many serial killers and evil dictators had an appreciate for fine art and classical music? Probably more than 1. The closest thing to "an education that ensures people won't be bad" is a RELIGIOUS education. And even that is flawed. Religious communities have high social cohesion not because of the "if you do bad thing god will punish" (though that plays a big role), religious communities have high social cohesion because of mutual trust and comradery between its members.
>>100169694why would anyone teach their children to be ethical if that's a competitive disadvantage? Anything besides muh moral high ground loser cope?
>>100167637McDonald's doesn't want slow autistic people who will argue with everyone in the store
>>100170989truth here, code monkeys on average are simply more intelligent and intelligent people are more curious and well rounded. Education plays little part.>whawhawha you can't say thatjust did
>>100170989Its not that humanities will make you a moral good person, but turn you into a well rounded person and not a productivity golem. College was meant to be a space for rich people to send their kids to become adults. Now its job training.
>>100170978What URL?
>>100167637They won’t be getting a job. CS employment goes to street shitters these days.
>>100170662>our hate is love>your love is hate>also jews must dieHumanities were a mistake
>>100170425It's all the same Anon. Different points on a spectrum of computer work.
>>100167637>worrying about compsci gradscould never be me
>>100167677>They should learn to code right before LLMs replace all professional software developersfixed that for you
>>100170662Yes they do lmao. They've basically made a pseudoscience out of defining who is and isn't "okay" to disparage and, hilariously, it's given them a ton of common ground with neo nazis!
>>100167637so when are we nuking France into the stone age
>>100168843interesting. I went to the school where he was teaching when I was getting my degree, I was in the "B.A. CS degree" type program. It's called "B.S. Computational Media" and required only half the upper level CS classes that the regular CS degree required, with the other half being courses from the Communications degree they offered. I honestly don't think the extra humanities courses helped me at all post-college. They were great at padding my GPA though.
>>1001690531) "Business Management" have always had by far the most job availabilities, but also by far the most graduates. So I imagine that the actual job availability-to-graduate rate is much smaller than many of the other fields on that list.2) "Business management" is a very generic degree field which doesn't teach many hard skills, it just prepares you for generic corporate work/being manager at a Denny's. It can't really be compared to the other fields since, once your career is established, you are moreso defined with your history with the company than your skills.3) these jobs are way more highly sensitive to having good connections/going to a good school than other fields. A fortune 100 company would hire a Dev/IT guy/accountant from any podunk state school, meanwhile they would autofilter any business grad from the same schools.4) almost all of those business jobs, except for the restaurant/store management positions, are MBA positions that require graduate work.
>>100167637ideally they will be employed doing some computer science such as reviewing code generated by whatever new means or perhaps even generating code by whatever means
>>100167646>drone operators and satellite imaging techsHow much would that pay?
>>100167646Why would AI not takeover those jobs
>>100168843If humanities hadn’t gone to shit and degrees didn’t cost as much as a house this would make sense.It does not make sense with the way American higher education currently works.
>>100168960I’m going to report your post for being extremely low quality.
>>100177149Almost enough to save for a house down payment in your 30s.
>>100177149>pay whatever standard enlisted pay is that year.
>>100168843We have to get rid of the legal requirement to perpetually increase the (nominal) value of an investment of Ford vs Dodge Brothers, before anything like that could have any appreciable effect.
>>100168843i got a ba in cs fairly recently and i'd say the humanities classes i had to take were basically useless and learning a foreign language is also mostly useless unless you have a specific reason to (ie, learning japanese to experience weebshit better)the only useful class was a technical writing one i could have taken even if i was in the bs version of the majoralso, the ba classes were pozzed beyond belief
>>100168885>Oh course today humanities is just all faggot shit.This is the problem honestly, I like reading some philosophy or literature in my free time, but "humanities" courses are literally only about telling me how my existence as a straight white man is problematic.
