The king of distros is back and it officially drops today. Are you ready?
someone actually still uses nubuntu?
Oh shit, it has already been 16 years since the tag team of Canonical and Poettering ruined open source forever?Time sure flies
is that the official logo? because that's beautiful, levels above the usual freetard logo standard
>>100175603When will Ubuntu fix their terrible fucking theming and icons? How is the icon of their shitty ubuntu app store acceptable in 2024? Also when will they fix snap performance issues and bugs?
Cuck distro. The only people I have seen using it are,1) boomer semi-power users who dual boot because they're too dumb to switch to linux / VMs2) literal pajeets from work who can't tell the difference between a file extension and file content
Ubuntu is cringe. They have literal P*nyshit as the VLC example screenshot in their snap store.
>>100175718Every single professor or person involved in academia that uses linux uses Ubuntu from what I've seen. To be fair they are usually not techy people and would probably struggle a lot more with any other distro compared to Ubuntu that "just werks" and it's main line of releases is the LTS that doesn't need any tinkering or updates for two+ school years. It's just objectively shit if you have any knowledge and wouldn't mind a little bit of tinkering, there's zero reason to use it an intermediate level when you can just run Fedora/openSUSE/Debian.
>>1001757183) people who want shit that just werks but doesn't like Apple
>>100175603alright OP, I'll bite. Can I do everyday normal tasks on it as someone who has used Winblows their whole life?
>>100175804Except Ubuntu includes non free blobs and actually runs ootb
>>100175718Oh and I should mention I'm trans, btw
>>100175825And you can get non free blobs in 15 seconds with Fedora/openSUSE or any distro that doesn't have them with two lines in terminal. As I said, Ubuntu is great as a beginners distro, but the moment you are no longer scared of terminal it loses any use cases.
>>100175821Define "normal tasks", but generally yeah. Web browsing, documents, movies etc
Distro for fags and dumbs.
>>100175603Soooo ready for this. I gotta update from 23.10s laggy terminal
downloading right now and spinning it on vmware
>>100175619Most popular distro in India.
it just werks
>>100175603>no Unity DEThat's a nope from me.
>no Unity DEThat's a yep from me.
>>100175603>GNOMENo thanks
>>100175603Ready!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5yM4ZYwB_s
>>100176186there's Ubuntu flavors thoughbeit
>>100175603Does it come with the easter egged version of XZ Utils?
>>100176235They are mostly half baked, Fedora Spins are much better built and integrated
I use Ubuntu for my tvpcgnome actually works pretty well for thatand it hasn't broken on any updates (so far). pretty neat feature ime.
>>100176252Source: I made it up
fuck i literally just switched to ubuntu 23.10 three days ago
>5.7GBholy bloat
>>100176300You can updoot from 23 to 24, goy
>>100176245Nope. Pretty sure everyone got rid of the rotten egg version of XZ Utils by now
>>100175768based?
they fixed the thumbnail meme but it's still broken as it doesn't even display the images
>>100175620>the tag team of Red Hat / IBM and PoetteringFTFY
>>100176413kek, I thought Mint was bad at 3GB
>>100176738god, I wanna fuck default Ubuntu GNOME
>>100175718literal childits the only commercially supported stable distro that isn't Redhat shitAND it is the only distro with AzureAD supported user logon which may be required for insurance agreements
>>100176738look at the fucking app store icon, im going to fucking strangle ubuntu niggers FUCKING UNBUTN IGNIGETRS KOFAIOJFWJIAGFOIAJGIAJWGIAJG IJAWGIJAW GIJAFIJAW FIJAIJ F
>>100175603>snapno thanks
>>100176775Systemd is just a sequel, the origin story that started it all was PulseAudio in Ubuntu 08.04 which took open source from outdated stable systems towards the modern day of replacing everything with broken untested code because change must be constantly happening no matter the cost
>>100176100Get the Unity flavour
>>100175603Nah, I am waiting for pop 24.04 to drop and make ebussy seethe eternally with the new Cosmic DE.
>>100176738>they fixed the thumbnail meme>still broken?
>>>100176738>look at the fucking app store icon, im going to fucking strangle ubuntu niggers FUCKING UNBUTN IGNIGETRS KOFAIOJFWJIAGFOIAJGIAJWGIAJG IJAWGIJAW GIJAFIJAW FIJAIJ F
>>100176983More bugs than San Francisco
>>100175603When can I run the GUI updater and get asked to upgrade?
>>100177205even doe i dont look like that or say it looking like that, i literally said it normally while being chad doe while you are wojak beit
>>100176538thats not supported yet, silly. Read the release notes
>>>100177205>even doe i dont look like that or say it looking like that, i literally said it normally while being chad doe while you are wojak beit
>>100176978PulseAudio was actually a step in the right direction, works on most setups, and the idea is being perfected with PipeWire (the only good thing Red Hat has forced on this ecosystem). SystemD is a whole different ballgame. No one asked for it, other init systems were working just fine, and they still do. SystemD spreads its tentacles throughout an entire installation, while PulseAudio just helps the average user gain more flexibility for routing and playing back audio. Canonical has to eat shit because of Red Hat all the time, and we lost promising projects like Upstart and Unity because of them. Mind you, I don't like either of these entities, but if I was forced to choose between the two of them for hostile dictator, I'd prefer Canonical. At least they lube ya up before jamming it in.
>>100177357The initial push for PulseAudio was so god damn bad that even Poettering himself admitted it was a mistake but it set the dangerous precedent that it was now fine to ship completely broken bullshit in open source as long as you promise that it'll maybe be good at some undetermined point in the future
>>100176738So they didn't fix it? it was supposed to be fine in Gnome 46.
>>100175849I don't know why people like you find it a necessity to set up something that requires more technical proficiency when they both do the exact same thing.
>>100178004because ubuntu snaps are dogshit and genuinely bad, like steam and firefox have openly said the snaps are shit? removing snaps takes more effort than it does adding proprietary codecs in fedora/opensuse
>>100178028>removing snaps takes more effort there are 3 commands for it - 2 to uninstall and purge. 1 to make sure they never get installed again.>>100177357>SystemD spreads its tentacles throughout an entire installationso what? it works
>>100178068>2 to uninstall and purgeI thought it was justapt --autoremove purge snapd
apt --autoremove purge snapd
>>100176738That UI looks so bland and ugly.
>>100178125I cut doomer bro some slack ;)
>>100175821Program compatibility is limited, default file manager is terrible, general multitasking is inferior. I still use it because fuck Microsoft but it's not great because Gnome is poorly designed and there are no stable alternatives that don't look like they belong in the 90s.
>>100178125Nope. It comes back.
>>100176259I agree with him. The last time I tried Kubuntu it was fucking broken.
>>100176738>>100177193>>100177972You have to generate the thumbnails with Nautilus before they show in the file picker. Linux desktop will never succeed until they ditch the failed abortion called GNOME.
>>100178570How do you do that?
>>100175603Some of Debian's names are questionable, but Ubuntu goes full retard when it comes to naming versions
>>100176738>2014+10>still getting fired for being unable to view thumbnails on loonix
>>100176738lol, ilmao evenGNOME is such a fucking joke, Canonical should switch to KDE already.
>>100179031KDE is unironically objectively worse. Linux should just scrap the entire DE meme thing and consider it a failed project, nobody has enough resources and devs to make a good DE in linux, jus take the WM pill
>>100179056>KDE is unironically objectively worseExcept it is not ebussy, stop coping and fix the fucking thumbnails already you retard.
>>100175603Kubuntu 24.04 seems good. Choosing plasma 5.27.11 for the LTS was a good decision. It's way more polished and pretty much bug free compared to Plasma 6. I have no idea why Canonical continue to push Gnome as their flagship. It's a fucking disaster and even Fedora, the top Gnome cucks, are looking an excuse to ditch the shit.
>>100179071you are a pajeet and have low standards, kde is the buggiest piece of shit in the world
>>100175603>Experimental support for TPM-backed Full Disc Encryption and ZFS encryptionhuge
>>100179141gnome is the only decent looking DE on Linux
>>100179548What about it looks good? The pointless black bar along the top? The touchscreen style menu hidden under 2 other menus?
>>100177348What distro does he use?
Ubuntu is super shit now, Debian is easier to install and has fewer issues
>>100176738what is the use case for this?
>>100179606The UI is simple and logical, it's very much akin to Android and iOS where things just make sense, sometimes it's way too simplified but everything is easily readable and not overwhelming. And if new features are added they are added once they actually work and don't bug out like KDE krashes. You won't ever have GNOME pulling shit like KDE themes wiping your entire system
>>100179056freetards love "choice", even when it's between shit and piss
>>100179739>The UI is simple and logical>huge top black bar with nothing on it>another huge top bar on top of every individual window>tray icons hidden behind menu/background apps menus that takes a full minute to even detect
>ubuntu thread>tinkertrannies crawl out like roaches and get thrown into convulsions of rageclockwork
>>100175603I used ubuntu as a kid but at this point there's no real reason to use it over debianAlso I realize it happened a long time ago but I don't trust them ever since the amazon tracking and unity fuck ups
>>100176738>the cancel and open buttons at the fucking top of the window>ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF EACH OTHERwhat the fuck is that abomination
>>100175825debian includes non-free stuff now
>>100179879You are trying to use your PC like windows since it lives rent free in your head and bill gates's daughter's black boyfriend's BBC is just too tasty. Not every OS/DE has to follow windows, macOS doesnt, iOS doesnt, android doesn't, chromeos doesn't, GNOME doesn't.
i tried it, got most of my things set up, but then i restarted and it thorws [[nvidia-drm]] errors on startupi suspect gayland is to blame
>>100179964Please understand, GNOME devs made it for tablets/phones and the window is supposed to be smaller.
>>100179921this
>>100175603Download the systemd-resolved deb file before you upgrade. You might thank me later.https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/amd64/systemd-resolved/downloadhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/2055012
>>100179056if all de are so terrible then why is mircosoft copying us lol
>>100181685nobody cares about anything gui related on linux
Damn right it is
>>100181685microsoft has literally never copied anything of importance from KDE or GNOME or any linux distro, if they are taking inspiration from anyone for W10 and W11 it's from Android/iOS/macOS, pretty much every single major Google/Apple/MS ecosystem is doing the same shit ol apple did with flat round simplified shit.
>>100178817You open the directory with Nautilus.
>>100175603Why did Desktop grow by 3GB? WTF
Not only GNOME as a DE is shit and the devs go out of their way to keep ruining what works but every single DE built on top of GTK is tainted too for the same reason, everything is always breaking and some of the shit needs to be accepted to play nice with the GTK baseWhy the hell big distros and almost every other DE choose to use or follow this thing that feels like a niche autistic experiment in the vein of Pantheon desktop or something?I used to Goddamn hate KDE now look where I am. Soon they'll find a way to kill KDE and Lxqt too and force us to use their corpses instead.Also best solution to use Lxqt without having to deal with the Snap crap?
>>100175603How do I get Plasma 6 on Kubuntu 24.04?
>>100182039There may be a backport later, for now you have to use KDE Neon.
>>100175718works on my machine>>100176930lmao it's a noose, like the hyprland logo
>>100175603Bros?
>>100178562you have to google for the proper multi-line bash incantation that holds the package and prevents it from being unheld
>>100182129AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCKKKKKKKK
>>100182065I'll wait I guess, I took the Ubuntu pill after I got tired of Debian's bad defaults and outdated software
>>100181685total bullshit, linux (especially gnome) are generally copying Apple/macos (without understanding them or the context they come from and bastardising them especially gnome), microsoft occasionally tries to steal some ideas from them too, which is why you end up with the illusion of microsoft copying linux
>>100182222wasted quads.Some little goober (You) saying what trillion dollar companies are doing wrong. Just fucking yikes
>>100181719The only things dragging Lubuntu down are the snap situation unfortunately, and the lack of aero snap
>>100175768>Published by VideoLANIt wasn't Canonical.
>>100175849>Ubuntu is great as a beginners distro, but the moment you are no longer scared of terminal it loses any use cases. imagine thinking you passed the "beginner" level just because you typed 2 commands in your terminal imagine thinking all the people who use ubuntu do it because they are "scared" to see a prompt what the fuck are you talking about? now tell me what great use cases I will be able to accomplish on your 1337 distros that I can't on ubuntu? picrel is ubuntu onboard a plane across the antarctic for a NASA mission because we all know NASA engineers/scientists are shit scared of muh terminal right?
>>100175718So 90% of Linux users then?
>>100178139i think it looks fucking slick and easy on the eye desu
>>100182142
>>100183735It's easy on the eyes, yes, but it looks bland.
>>100175768not as bad as uwubernetes (yes it's real)https://kubernetes.io/blog/2024/04/17/kubernetes-v1-30-release/
>>100175849Bullshit. I've been using it for over 10 years. I don't want to have to compile and fuck with things. I want to open the lid and do things. Ubuntu takes care of this. Besides, there's nothing you can do on gentoo and arch that you can't do on Ubuntu. Those are nice distros for unemployed people who want to make thier OS their life and personality, but I have shit I want to do, have very little free time, and don't want to spend it maintaining a *nix so some faggot on /g/ thinks I'm a chud.
>>100177357God systemd has made my life so much easier
>>100175849>As I said, Ubuntu is great as a beginners distroOnly people who are relatively new to Linux actually say this. Usually when they discover other distros ship with different default DEs.
>>100181958It didn't, it grew by 1GB from 4.7 to 5.7The answer is snap retardation.
>>100178566And when did you try it? I use Kubuntu at home, rather comfy.
>>100175603>24.04 nasty nigger
>>100175603installer is borked out of the box, it crashed about 10 times on me but i was finally able to get through it. then it did something weird i've never experienced before, 100% max fan for about 30 seconds during boot then back to normal fan. strange.
>>100184206this, i have a job, i don't have time to fiddle fuck with packages when they break while updating the system. and i don't care about having the latest packages anyway, they will be backported in time and all arch users are doing is essentailly beta testing them for us.
>>100185384So do beginners have an invalid opinion on what distro appeals to their newbie sensibilities? What point are you trying to make?
>>100187074just gonna chime in and say that even though i'm effectively a NEET with all the free time in the world, i find the constant updooting so fucking pointless and mentally exhausting. it's like, remember how we changed your desktop 6 months ago? well, guess what, bitch, we changed it yet again, and if you thought the last change was good, this one is the Best One Yet!â„¢... until we change it again, that is.fuck. all. of. that. get me as far away as possible from that mentality.
>>100179031Shuttleworth hates Plasma. I don't know why.
>>100179056>KDE is unironically objectively worse.No. Just avoid Akonadi and Kmil, and all is well.
>>100175718-ACK!
I'll stick with debian, kde installer, x11 session.
>b-but why do all my teachers and professors and people with jobs still use ubuntu d-don't they know its a beginner's distro?Come back to the lightUse your computer to actually get work donet. Fedora user but Ubuntu is also goodMint is a meme made by amateurs whose website was hacked... twice, used by contrarians who want "ubuntu but less popular to prove I'm not a noob"
The reason /g/ hates Ubuntu is because it allows """average users""" to use Linux.
>>100177058I hope it's going to be good when it finally releases, so people can have a good first impression. Ubuntu without gnome and snaps is just perfect, once it was ubuntu itself, now it's linux mint, and in the future it hopefully can be pop os.
>>100187834>>100187890We hate Cuckbuntu because of:- Snaps- Amazon Spyware- GNOME by defaultYour bullshit narrative doesn't hold, Ubuntu is less noob friendly than Mint, yet people have no beef with Mint, just with your piece of shit corporate-run Linux that tries to go against the principles of FOSS. It was cute when Ubuntu was just a gimmick to get normies to use Linux and meanwhile the Canonical guys would see if they could make some pocket change from it, but it has mutated into another head of the shilly corporate hydra trying to remake Linux to their image. The other heads of the Hydra are Red Hat/IBM and Intel.
>>100188696>- Amazon SpywareI thought that was dumped years ago.>- GNOME by defaultFor Ubuntu, sure, but you are free to use Kubuntu.
>>100175603Working good for me.Was having problems with some hardware under Windows 10 LTSC and various distros, but it is just working under Ubuntu 24.04.
>>100184028Unfathomably based
>>100187834This. I've recently ascended to the last step, using vanilla Ubuntu again.I don't want to configure everything myself (not even once with dotfiles). I don't need extensive application configuration options (KDE). I don't need the latest software for everything. Just my snaps and flatpaks.GNOME is fine. Ubuntu LTS is fine. Time to get some work done.>>100188696>snapsThey work fine, compared to when they were just released. Alternatively uninstall snapd and go with deb/flatpak. It's your choice.>amazon spywareThat was OVER a decade ago. Get with the times, grandpa.>gnomeIrrelevant. There are derivative distro's like kubuntu, xubuntu etc.
>>100188713>I thought that was dumped years ago.If a company pulls that one on you then it's good enough of a reason to drop them and distrust them for life.
>>100175603I've been running it on my t420 playground machine for a few weeks. It's really smooth. No complaints thusfar.Gonna upgrade my t480 workhorse somewhere in the next few weeks from manjaro kde.(captcha: DWYTA)
>>100181719Looks disgusting desu, idk how people can deal their desktop looking like this in 2024
>>100188846>le get work done memeFapping to CP is not work
>>100189277At least you're not getting blue balls cause you need to fix your OS
>>100189124The same way we dealt with it looking like this in 2014 and 2004
>>100189293Unlike Ubuntu, my distro of choice works on my machine.>>100189293
>>100179995>bill gates's daughter's black boyfriend's BBCmutt's law
>>100182142gemmington
>>100188696Compared to Windows, it's a world of difference. Freetards just don't want normies using Linux easily so they can feel special about compiling from source.
>>100188863So, it is just the abacus left for you, right?
>>100189594>>100189622Nope, like I sad before, I'm always recommending newbies to try Debian or Mint.Try a better narrative, Canonical shill.
>>100189656Again feeling superior to tell newbies what to do rather than let me them try Linux however they like.
>>100175603So when will it be safe to update from 22.04 if ubuntu is my main system that I work on?Mostly waiting for 3rd party software
>>100176738use Kubuntu, there's no use case for any gnome desktop application
>>100189328I get my rocks off with TempleOS. 640 by 480, as god intended.
>>100188696>SnapsAre fine, and if you don't like them it's easy enough to avoid them. You can even completely purge them with some terminal commands. You're not scared of the terminal, are you?>Amazon SpywareIt was opt-in, and it hasn't existed for 10+ years.>GNOME by defaultThere's an Ubuntu flavor for each DE. And you can install whatever DE you want regardless through the terminal. You aren't scared of the terminal, are you?>corporate-run LinuxHaving professional support is bad because...? Not having the existence of your whole OS hinged on the fact that some tranime watching neckbearded pedo has a lot of free time and hasn't been kicked out of his mom's basement yet is bad because...?>principles of FOSSI take it that you're using Trisquel and don't have a single piece of software or firmware that isn't licensed under GPL installed on your computer, right? Certainly you wouldn't want to go against FOSS principles by making posts to a website with a proprietary, closed source backend after interacting with captcha and going though cloudflare.>the shilly corporate hydra trying to remake Linux to their image.You mean the "corporate hydra" that makes 90% of the contributions to Linux kernel itself?
>>100189656>I'm always recommending newbies to try Debian or Mint.That just drives people back to Microsoft. Got manmy shares, hm?
Linux Mint is better
>>100189737there is no universal answer to this. personally i need to have a very good reason to upgrade before EOL.
>>100188696>Linux that tries to go against the principles of FOSS.this is a good thing, not being part of the mentally deranged FOSS tranny cult is why I use ubuntu and why ubuntu is king
>>100189871no KDE doe
Trinity DE is also nice, will probably try that over the latest Kubuntu.
>>100189953you don't need more than cinnamon, mate and xfce DOE
>>100175603mehtempleos superiority
>>100189696They can do whatever they like, I only post advice if someone asks for advice.>Having professional support is bad because...? Not having the existence of your whole OS hinged on the fact that some tranime watching neckbearded pedo has a lot of free time and hasn't been kicked out of his mom's basement yet is bad because...?I'm on Slackware not some tranime distro. Run by Pat aka The Man, the Legend. Security updates every day since 1993. Stable releases every couple of years, which is all I need. (There is a testing "current" branch as well for bleeing edge). No systemd, complete control over my system, minimalism.And it will never die. Slack is Linux.>I take it that you're using Trisquel and don't have a single piece of software or firmware that isn't licensed under GPL installed on your computer, right? Certainly you wouldn't want to go against FOSS principles by making posts to a website with a proprietary, closed source backend after interacting with captcha and going though cloudflare.I'm not a Libre autist. Like Aristotle said, "some vices miss what it's right because they are deficient, others because they are excessive, in feelings or actions, while virtue finds and chooses the mean". It's all a matter of degree. No binary blobs whatsoever autism is extremist, running a corpo-cucked distro that ADMITTED TO RUNNING SPYWARE is the other toxic end of the spectrum.
>still no network installerare they retarded?
HOLY SHIT! Thumbnails for both images AND webms?Linux is finally 4chan compatible, this is the year of the linux desktop!
>>100190936Windows 10 hasn't thumbnails for .webms. WTF?
>no nvidia drivers so cant run nvidia-smi>only the proprietary version from nvidia works but it only supports up to 22.04>yolo install it>blackscreen on bootDo not waste your time, just wait for shit to be more stable
>>100191120>no nvidia drivers so cant run nvidia-smiretard, nvidia drivers work perfectly well with 24.04
>>100178570There is talk to make nautilus the file picker which would presumably get rid of this issue, but it is still stupid because why wouldn't it be possible to call the thumbnailer when browsing in the filepicker?
>>100191145Show me your nvidia-smi screen in 24 outside of recovery mode, nigger
>>100190936why didnt they have this in the release notes? I'm on gnome 45 and they dont work. Did I just not see the notes about this?
>>100191271ditto, minus the nigger labeling
>>100190960It does, you need to install the VP9 extensions from the MS Store.
>>100190251I have a use case that warrants KDE
>>100191439No you don't
noble bump
>>100190251yeah I doKDE is premium fully featured silky smooth experience and I won't settle for less
>>>100190251 (You)>yeah I do>KDE is premium fully featured silky smooth experience and I won't s- *krashes*
>>100189277Why do you think competitive programmimg doesn't count as work?
Fucking Gnome still doesn't let you set view type on a per folder basis. This is something Windows and mac have had for decades.
>>100176923>commercially supported stable distrointo the trash it goes
>>100178821debian is just using toy story characters
>>100193415>>100191120>>100189871>>100188696
>>100190936w-will mate have this?
>sudo do-release-upgrade<no>sudo do-release-upgrade -d<Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try againGay.
just installed her, boys. she reboots without issues too. People itt are lying