weird science editionprevious: >>100314443READ THE WIKI! & help by contributing:https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server>NAS Case Guide. Feel free to add to it:https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server/Case_guide/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.>What software should I run?Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.>Why should I have a home server?/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.>Links & resourcesCool stuff to host: https://gitlab.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhostedRouterOS's: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server#Customhttps://reddit.com/r/datahoarderhttps://www.labgopher.comhttps://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/indexhttps://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/FeaturesList of ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQLow-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCICheap disks: https://shucks.top/ & https://diskprices.com/Remember:RAID protects you from DOWNTIMEBACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
>>100343307>HPEDon't give your money to pajeets, give them to white people at 45drives and iXsystems.
>>100343109how come?I thought the normal thing to do is set it to capture a few fps only on motion detection, never had issues with it you set it to record anything always?
would it be possible to replace a home commercial mesh wifi network with minipcs running virtualized opnsense on proxmox? is that a bad idea
>>100343307what the fuck I was just thinking about weird science two seconds before this post
bros, the autosuspend = -1 trick solved the computer disappearing from my LAN after x minutes with a ETH to USB adapter. THANK YOU
>>100343458wired minipcs? probably would workminipcs with those dodgy built-in wifi cards? probably bad idea
>>100343506You really should setup those udev rules, or not use an USB adapter for Ethernet.
>>100343448I don't buy HPE but mostly because they are stingy fucks and lock firmware updates behind a paywall unlike Dell which makes it hard to upgrade any servers you buy secondhand.
What software are you using to manage an internal PKI for self-signed certificates? Asking for 40+ services.
>all the new hardware is either in the mail or stacked in the closet waiting for the build upgrades.It's me, the retard. With the 990fx I 'upgraded' from an m5a97?I decided to double down on the retard thing.I will be moving that mobo and its raidz2 array of 4tb HGSTs into a new case, and using the define 7 that it was sitting inside of for something else: >PRO WS X570-ACE>128gb ecc ddr4 3200>ryzen 9 5950x>LSI 9305-16i>Mellanox ConnectX-4 Lx EN MCX4121A-ACUT>6x HGST WUH721816ALE6L4 in raidz2>8x SAMSUNG PM893 in raidz2>1x MP600 PRO XT for booting, probably gonna buy another and raid1>a gpu that will go forever unnamedI had to rob like 9 different rich old ladies to pull this off and I'm really excited to see how it goes when I throw everything together. I'll keep you posted on the progress as it's put together.
>>100345274>I had to rob like 9 different rich old ladies to pull this offbased brazilianbut why not threadripper?
>>100345295Couldn't justify the additional old ladies.No, the truth is given the age and relative obsolescence of my current "server" (looking at you you fucking autist I know you're here) and my current needs/aims, replacing it with a nice am4 motherboard and the specific hba/nic is honestly all I would ever need or want to expect out of something I haven't put into a rack-mount.I'm at the point where the "gains" of exploring the LGA 4094 socket would be both beyond my current needs, and something that honestly offers enough potential with a true, no bullshit server mobo ala ROMED8-2T that I would want that to be in a dedicated rack with a serious, long-term networking/storage/multi-node solution or roadmap to a solution.Once this old pcie2.0 system dies? Hell fucking yeah man, I'll be working the local retirement homes, the antique stores and pawn shops. There will be enough old china and jewelry to make it happen, when the time comes. But it is not yet the time.
Can I ask dumb noob questions here?
>>100345590sure
>>100345417>looking at you you fucking autist I know you're herei remember helping (You)PCI Express bandwidthZFS pools (HDDPOOL1)SSDs that don't have firmware updates publicly available
>>100345590you can ask one per thread, but you just used your one. wait for the next thread.
>>100346095and the whole striped mirrors (RAID10) vs RAID-Z2 debate
>>100346095>SSDs that don't have firmware updates publicly availablekeki remember getting a few of those Samsungook enterprises, ran the magician software , and got befuddled. never again.
>>100343908have you looked at smallstep step-ca ?
How many of you have solar panels to offset server power usage in your home
>>100346246solar panel cost 10x more than most peoples setups
>>100343448nice
>>100346312Step 1, stop being poor, you live in the civilized world.Step 2, don't pick the most expensive option, as HPE has even more expensive singular servers.
>>100343741what benefit do the udev rules provide if I dont intend on unplugging my computer, and the ETH adapter still works after a reboot?The ETH port on my computer doesn't work, otherwise I wouldn't be using it
also not sure if this is based or not, could be implemented with a bash script i suppose>>100346282thisdid the math and it's a clean $10k where I live
>>100346536and if you don't live on the equator, solar is hardly worth it. being a bit hyperbolic but the bigger the latitude, the less effective solar is. it's starting to become quite the scam of door to door sales on solar telling people how great the energy is and showing off fake graphs, then entice people with "it's basically free cause there's these tax credits for going green". Old people falling for it hard.
>>100346519Enable USB power saving (autosuspend) for devices other than your malfunctioning USB adapter for Ethernet.>The ETH port on my computer doesn't work, otherwise I wouldn't be using itnigga buy a PCI Express card. also you're not supposed to connect to the IPMI management port for the host/guests to use.
>>100346519>The ETH port on my computer doesn't work, otherwise I wouldn't be using itIf it's a Realtek NIC, use the DKMS drivers or the newer in-kernel driver?
>made a backup of my synology using hyperbackup to my unraid sever>hyperbackup can't connect to unraidSynology is connecting to unraid because I can make backups to it but I can't restore from the backup I made.I'm literally losing my mind because I wiped the synology without checking if I could restore from backups first.Pic rel is literally me rn
>>100343307Does anyone know of any single bay NAS devices that basically strap a computer to a 3.5" drive? I want to fuck around with file servers in a silly way. I'm seeking something similar to the Odroid HC2 (but not discontinued) or Kimax U35WF (but with gigabit ethernet and capable of running something more intense than OpenWRT).
Posted in older thread about picking up an old 32U ibm rack that seller said was fully welded and anons said it probably could be disassembled. Anons were wrong, it is 100% a welded steel box and weighs like 550lbs. Only thing that comes off is the door and the power delivery shit. I got it anyway because 32U rack with thousands of pounds of load capacity for $100, why not. Getting it into my basement was a fucking nightmare
>>100347808Nice, we are proud of you.
>>100347808wow, that's bizzare. post pics, i've never seen a welded rack before, they are almost always folded sheet steel bolted or riveted together. only permenant installation datacenter racks from like 20 years ago would be welded
>>100346831pci slot is used by my GPU>Enable USB power saving (autosuspend) for devices other than your malfunctioning USB adapter for Ethernet.I dont plug anything else into it, and if I did, what's the issue?>>100346864i think its botched, I've tried everything. I probably fucked it hot swapping my GPU when I was asleep
i wrote a shitty little image gallery in php recently no i wont link it and no i probably wont put it on shit hub its actually pretty easy if you try though $globbed_filelist_array = glob('porn/*/*.webp');
$globbed_filelist_array = glob('porn/*/*.webp');
>>100346095>>100346122Yeah, the saga fucking continues. Never determined why the stripped mirrors performed worse than the raidz2 config. This bothers me but I honestly care even less - willing to run the risk of a girthy resilver, as now I have 2 separate backup machines. Going to be fun sourcing nicer SSDs for the main sata flash pool.Maybe that's silly. I feel like I'm late to the party but what I'm seeing about nvme SSDs is very interesting. Interested to see how pools of those compare to pools of enterprise sata SSDs.To even begin to think about pcie gen 5/LGA 4049 boggles my mind. I need racks for that kind of smoke.
>>100343307M2 SSDs or SATA 2.5" SSDs for a low-power media server?Is there any benefit to the 2.5" form-factor, or is it basically legacy at this point?
>>100348963Not all m2 slots are NVMe but if theyre just SATA it doesnt matter either way whether you use m2 or 2.5. If theyre nvme and you have the network performance for m2 nvme, run that. If not, run SATA in whatever form factor you want. NVMe drives are very fast and a single one will easily saturate a 1Gb link.I run SATA SSDs in my servers.
>>100343458Just buy mikrotik, ruckus or older Aruba APs.I mean, if you enjoy 10Mb/s, go for it your way.
>>100349070Is there actually any reason to use a 2.5" form factor anymore except for backwards support?
>>100343458While you can use any wifi card to broadcast, it's probably a pain in the ass to manually make a mesh network. And you shouldn't make it both broadcast and relay data over wireless.>>100348381What motherboard?>hotswapping a gpuThat's not a thing. If you were tarded enough to do that then you should be happy the entire board isn't dead.>I propably fucked it while I was asleepDon't do that>>100348963>>100349137U.2>low-powerOh, uhh either is fine. As long as you don't get pcie 5.0 nvme m.22.5" disks is the only way to get sata-speed ssds anymore, sata-speed m.2 are extinct.Most boards only have one or two m.2 slots. If you want more you have to either get one of the cheap pcie x16 boards (if you have bifurication) or an expensive pcie x16 switching board. But if you have four sata ports going unused and don't need the extra speed, then you could utilize those instead.Having options is weird isn't it!
>>100347250> with gigabit ethernet and capable of running something more intenseYou could just build an x86 server.
>>100348963>2.5" form-factor2.5" SATA SSDs are hotpluggable while m.2 SATA or NVMe ones aren'tsame is also true for 2.5"and 3.5" SAS or U.2 SSDs bei g hotpluggableit's sort of the only benefit, maybe heat dissappation as enterprise 2.5" or 3.5" SSDs can basically be huge heatsinks for a relatively small board, while m.2 ones are much more limitedI also tend to prefer traditional SATA or SAS SSDs over m.2 style ones because the interface is simpler, is no worrying about PCIe bullshit (lanes, bus speed, bifurcation, etc etc) so I'd always prefer a server OS on SATA/SAS vs m.2 when possiblealso, is there a better way to distinguish m.2 and traditional SAS/SATAsince obviously SAS and SATA are both the name of the plug and the name of the interface, while m.2 is only the name of the interface and can run SATA or NVMe or PCIe2.5" isn't much better because you can also have 3.5" ones, and they could use SATA, SAS or u.2m.2 is fine because that's a form factor, but what do you call '2.5"/3.5" SAS/SATA' plugs?
>>100349414PS: And I know you could do some other hardkernel or orange pi model if you must. I've rather extensively used an Odroid N2 with USB dock.But you haven't pinned your hardware requirements. So really just getting an x86 APU build might be easiest / most flexible.
>>100347250>Odroid HC2These were great. I have two of them and am still using one as my media center.It's actually what inspired my question here:>>100348963... as I'd like to replace the HC2 setup with SSDs, but would need multiple SSDs as the HC2 is currently running an 8TB.
>>100348963IMO mostly you want to use PCIe SSD for the speed of the actual memory chips unless the resulting machine blows the budget... in which case sure, revert to SATA with 2.5" or M.2, it's not *that* bad for most uses either.>>100349480>2.5" SATA SSDs are hotpluggable while m.2 SATA or NVMe ones aren'tAlmost certain it can quite often be hotplug? Via ACPI hotplug or via PCIe hotplug capability (some flags and stuff).
>>100349740its hit or miss, even if you told me it was ok i still wouldn't remove an m.2 drive from a powered system. PCIe was never meant to be hot pluggable and any changes to that since are just patches rather than a system designed ground-up to support it
What the fuck happened to SATA SSD pricing?I want a bunch of storage, ideally mirrored, for a network share mounted from a mini pc with space for 2x M.2 drives and a SATA; 8TB of nvme storage will blow my budget hard so it’s not like this was ever going to be viable, but I feel like an 8TB Samsung QVO drive with QLC nand shouldn’t be $900 AUD, what the hell.
>>100349991it's physically bigger than an m.2 so therefore it costs morebut for real idk about a QVO being that much, but definately the fixed minimum cost of a SATA SSD is higher than an m.2 one, because the chips cost the same to make more or less but SATA ones use more materials and since they are physically larger they take up more space in warehouses, all the way until the customer so it's just more expensive to produce and stock them than the smaller m.2 ones, even if the m.2 is NVMe vs a 2.5" SATA, since it's the same raw material and the processing for NVMe isn't much more expensive than SATA has beenhave you checked ozbargin? theres been some good deals lately (most expired atm) by buying them off amazon or ebay from UK sellers, after shipping and conversion it's more like $650 for an 8TB QVO
I've been running a truenas scale box for about a year now as my first home server. I am starting to consider using a different option however because I am tried of going through the apps available through truecharts with how everything is fairly obfuscated and constant changes breaking things or forcing convulsed upgrade and migration paths. Going a few weeks without checking the truecharts blog page always results in a pain in the ass. My main use case is storing and serving all photos from mobile devices with Immich, torrenting, and hosting a music server. What would be some good options for to consider for these uses?
>>100348048here's the front, it's definitely old as fuck. from the date codes on the stickers it's maybe circa 1995? despite that it's in immaculate shape
>>100348048opened up. I took that door off to move it, that alone was like 40 lbs.
>>100350324>>100350348wow, that's pretty industrial. all the cable management seems to be on one side, so it's almost certainly from a datacenter that used all-IBM gear designed specifically for it, the racks were probably built-in, too.can't wait to see it filled
>>100348048a pic of the front with the door off while prepping to move it to the the basement. I did it with an appliance dolly, was super unsafe and I definitely should've had at least another person or two
>>100350379reading the docs on it there appear to be a corresponding rs6000 server for these racks specifically. there was also apparently pretty massive PDU but the previous owner had already scrapped that thankfully as it was likely even more weight. gonna fill it up this weekend, gotta let my sore ass body rest up a bit now
My ISP has installed the ont-router on the first floor of the house. As a result the 5ghz, or even 2.4g wifi signal and speed in the ground floor bedroom is trash.As a workaround, my friend gave me his shitty old tenda router which I've plugged in at a location where the signal is good and put it in bridge mode where it broadcasts a new 2.4g ssid for the ground floor. But the speed is subpar. Instead of 200 Mbps, I get something like 80 Mbps.The requirement for the fast wifi in ground floor is my OLED is setup there, and I'm unable to stream 4k HDR movies from plex/jellyfin from my pc. There is constant buffering, playing from hard drive/usb is fine.So there are two possible bottlenecks that I can think of, either my laptop isn't able to decode the files fast enough or the wifi isn't fast enough. As a first step I want to recitfy the wifi situation.I looked online and some answers that I got were1. Getting a mesh system, but that seems overkill for 1 room and requires enabling bridge mode on the router, my ISP makes process complicated.2.Access Points require running an ethernet cable from the modem, seems unwieldy, but I'll do it if nothing else works.Thoughts on these solutions? Are these within the capabilities of a non-IT person?Thanks for reading my blog.
>>100350473Is file transcoding or direct playing? The network speed is almost certainly the issue unless the files are micro encodes and even then it’s probably still that you’re using 2.4g wifi, that’s pretty shitty and dumb. It may be transcoding for audio because a lot of lg oleds are fucking stupid and can’t play or pass through dts/atmos audio. That said your server shouldn’t shit itself transcoding an audio stream. If it’s direct playing it’s 100% your shitty network, just run an ethernet cable to the tv. Although caveat: if you do have an lg oled keep in mind they only have 100mbit ethernet ports. You can get usb gigabit ethernet ports that work with the tv I think but I just got a streaming box that has a gigabit port and direct plays more content via coreelec (ugoos am6b+). The lg internal player sucks and as mentioned many cant pass through dts or atmos to avrs and it also sucks with dolby vision profiles which is crazy because lg is really backing that horse. Modern video stuff is fucking annoying
>>100351053Yeah I got to know my LG OLED has only 100mbit ports.When you say run an ethernet cable to TV, means I connect one end of the cable to my laptop and other end to a usb-ethernet adapter plugged into the TV usb port?Also is there any method where the TV sees the pc as a data source, like an HDD, when connected with HDMI?I forgot mentioning my TV is connected to the 5ghz network from the modem-router, but it's at it's edge and probably doesn't provide enough bandwidth for the 4k streams.I'll look into the transcoding settings on plex. Man I just want to watch some films.Thanks.
>>100350348I'd lock a waifu or two in there
>>100343307Trying to upgrade windows home on proxmox to windows pro so I can use more than 128GB of RAMdownload a scriptpicrel>error pending reboot flags found restart the system and try againThe damn thing is going to recovery mode every time it boots, and while work in firefox is saved, sublime text seems to never save what it was working on and defaults to what was open when the image was first backed up and i need to reinstall usbmmidd.bat every time after all that work i did to passthru a GPU without a blackscreen now i get this? wtfas usual the forums are useless and unrelated!https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/constant-pending-reboot/d9883071-1c0f-401b-bd91-84c09ec368cbWhat does picrel even mean?
>>100351369>>100351369Lmao your question about hdmi cables making pc files show up on the tv is literally some shit my 80 year old boomer dad would ask. No btw. Also the ethernet cable would go from tv to router. If you want to simply browse files on your pc skip plex/jellyfin entirely and look into dlna or samba with the internal player or maybe kodi. You can install kodi on webos right now if you root it but the window to root webos is closing very soon, lg is beta testing firmware updates with the exploit patched. Maybe they’ve already pushed it, I don’t know. Try not to brick your tv if you go that route
>>100352272Fuck this too complicated for a technologically specially abled person like me.I'll go the transferring to HDD connect HDD to TV route.Fuck you LG.Fuck you ZTE.Fuck you installation person who picked a fuckall spot for the router.
>>100352840only faggots give up when it gets harddont be a faggot
>>100352913FUCKFine. I'll buy an ethernet cable+usb adapter and see how things go from there.
>>100346816>>100346536>>100346282are you people insane? Solar panels are like AUD $400/kW and batteries are like $1000/kWh - $10,000USD would get you 25kW - enough to power a small townAre you trying to harvest the graphene and make your own or are you so stupid you think you can't switch on a 5kW server unless you have 100kW of panels and batteries?20kWh/h * 5h/day = 15kWh/daymy 24 core threadripper uses about 5kWh/day source:https://www.ecocool.com.au/products/solar-panels/solar-panel-500w-mono/https://www.amazon.com.au/300-watt-solar-panel/s?k=300+watt+solar+panelhttps://www.amazon.com.au/Caravan-Camping-Controller-Charging-Battery/dp/B0CBRK4TGN/
>>100350473Put the router on the floor and without any large metal objects in the way so the signal strength is stronger for the floor below it. Though you really shouldn't be using the provider's router for wifi in the first place and you shouldn't be bridging wifi connections, that second router should be connected by ethernet.You also need to figure out what the fuck the tv's app is doing with what your laptop is providing.
Looking to build a new server mostly for jellyfin (max 2x 4k streams). Is something like i3-6100 + dGPU a good idea or would it be better to go with a newer cpu like i3-10100 w/o dGPU? Low power consumption is preferable, so I'm leaning towards the latter.
>>100353063correction, $10,000 USD would get you 40kWhor 25 and a 5kWh battery backup, which would be 10 threadrippers or 15 4090 GPUs running at 100% load for 1h or regular load FOR A DAY
>>100353106have you considered celeron? do you really need to stream 8x 1080p streams?im running plex on 1 core 2GB RAM on a 5GB partition
>>100353071Aren't fiber optic cable delicate?Will it be ok if I move it around a bit?
>>100353063nit to mention in aus theres government rebates (admittedly not much anymore) for installation and you can sell the excess power for some small return, eniigh to reruce the time to pay it off by a lot though.Even that $10k solar setup, if you're actually using said 15 4090s and threadrippers, you're likely spending $1-2k on power a year, meaning that solar will pay for itself in at least 10 years, but likely closer to 5 assuming you never generate any excess, and even a few Kwh excess could reduce that to 3 or 4 yearsi think anti-solar fags are just bad at math
>>100353166Delicate means that you shouldn't bend it past its breaking point. If you manage to snap the fiber inside, you have a broken cable.But moving it around a bit is fine, as long as you don't introduce any sharp bends.
>>100352206bumpanyone?Why can't windows update in a proxmox VM?
>>100353150No, not really. Celerons and 6100 (both used) are in the same price range and decided on 6100. For 1200 socket celerons are 2x cheaper than 10100, but have slightly older igpu. Honestly have no idea if the igpu from celeron is strong enough for 2x 4k streams.
>>100353166Only if you kink it.Turn off the main router's garbage wifi and use the thing your friend gave you. With an ethernet cable.If you don't have ethernet cable lying around then I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you and you deserve to be disappointed with modern electronics.
recommendations for wireless NICs for home server use. might become OPNsense router in the future
PC builders get out, you're in the wrong general and not contributing to this general productively; you're bringing your desktop hardware issues into this general, which most likely would've not been a problem if you used server hardware.Wireless NICs don't belong in servers. Use real APs (not OpenWRT).USB adapters for Ethernet do not belong in servers. Demonstrated well in this and the previous thread why they're not reliable. Surely you have more PCI Express lanes than one GPU slot, in a real server.OPNsense runs on EOL ISC DHCP server software. Buy a real firewall with support if you need one, follow the majority or get yelled at. This includes geo-blocking at the firewall level.Windows Home editions don't belong in this environment. Reimage your VMs with Edu/Enterprise (or Pro if you have a license).Non-enterprise SSDs don't belong in servers, accelerated wear and inconsistent IOPS (fsync) issues ahoy.Now I could spend time playing the "solve an XY problem" with each one of you to tell how unproductive solving X your way is without solving the root cause, but instead I've decided to give you the straight answers: You're solving your problems wrong and creating more trouble for your future-selves.SATA SSDs are welcome. M5A97 anon is whatever because he already purchased the hardware and learned his lessons. Autistic kangaroo OP (not me) is cool as usual. VMware is still alive and well. Why do people get angry when they're told the answers they don't like to hear?Trying to answer server related questions here, as usual.
>>100346183>step-caLooks like it also supports ACME and high availability so I'll add it to my list of things to evaluate. Thanks!
>>100354242>chaotic goodnigger you are lawful evil
I bought an Orange Pi 5 (it didn't arrive yet). I will soon seek your guidance, /hsg/.
>>100354242>Windows Home editions don't belong in this environmentonly thing I agree with in your post, everything else is just LARP/autism
>>100355195/hsg/s guidance is>"you should have bought a used thinkcenter"alternatively>"you should have bought a used poweredge"Pis make nice toys and neat gadgets, not really servers
>>100355220I fucked up then. It's over. Thank you all. I'll remove myself from the precinct.
>>100355236turn it into a cyberdeck
>>100355272I want a backup server tbqh (syncthing etc). Maybe (maybe) a link for a webring. It's not settled, I never played with it. It could end up in a drawer kek
>>100355343>It could end up in a drawer kek*willat best you'll put pihole on it and leave it hooked up behind your router
Is it not possible to have Mikrotik hardware failover currently?
Please excuse the disturbance. Assuming that all the aggressive attacking posts are made by one person, have a look at the deleted posts in this thread: >>100300111There are some few posts who shed a light on a certain part of the character of that guy.
>>100354242Add those words to your filter then, my dude.ETH to USB is inherently a networks topic, and that's the essence of servers. I asked the friendly gnu linux general first, and they had no idea. I came here after, and was so happy to receive a solution that worked.Just tailor your filters to your secret garden.
>>100350473Try TP Link Power line Adapters with APsThey're rated for I believe 600MB/s and the access points are good connectionsI know you can usually score them off Amazon for between $35-$50
>>100349070why are all m2 sata SSDs so shit? keep in mind I'm comparing them to regular 2.5" sata drives. I can easily reach 500MBps sequential read/write speeds on a 2.5" ssd. I have NEVER seen these speeds on m2 sata drives. Even worse, I've seen ridiculous m2 sata drives with like 30MBps-60MBps top speeds basically dragging down the whole performance of a minipc server box.Why is that?
>>100355202He's wrong about that too because I'm pretty sure you can run Vbox or some other meme hypervisor on it and then at that point you have all the features of Linux or BSD
>>100354242Retard here. You're perfectly capable of setting up filters to avoid engaging with any kind of content on 4chan you don't like, I do it on several other boards and so does everyone ese. Worst case scenario this thread dies with a handful of posts as there are maybe less than 15 regular posters who post -anything- at all, never mind actual competent and well-researched questions specific to 'servers' without any overlap in other IT areas. Nothing wrong with trying to keep on topic, but this is a holding pen for retards, children, and people who swear too much - it's only ever going to be so nice of its own merit. I totally understand your frustration though.We have enough people posting now that we don't generally have to worry about the thread hitting page 10 on a consistent basis anymore.
>>100358120Probably shit controllers
>>100350348Cool find, niceDoes the door have some sort of electric locking mechanism?
I'm using an old netbook as a home server. Will this have enough power to install and run pihole, or will I have performance problems? See picrel.
>>100359070Not enough memory.
>>100359294Thanks for your reply. Do you think a similarly spec'ed machine with 2GB ram would cut it? I couldn't find a definitive system requirements for pihole.
>>100358718Nah just a magnet, which is actually pretty weak and the door opened a bunch during moving
>>100359640Pihole asks for 2GB minimum for itself, so a 3G system should be fine but 2GB ram would be cutting it close, just don't overload it.
I see that syncthing has three modes: send/receive, receive, and send. Is there a method where I can offload photos from my phone to my server but not sync deletions on my phone?
>>100360481Deletions from my phone, rather.
While we're all on the topic of SSDs, what's /hsg/'s favorite>Nvme enterprise grade SSD of choice>connection protocol of choice (dedicated pcie card, hba to quick release cage, etc)>filesystem/config of choice for vdevs ie zfs/raidz2and finally>how have/would you deploy said setup + go about upgrading its capacity?
Planning to set up Jellyfin for the first time on Win server 2022. I see there's an option to install as a service which sounds ideal, but there's not a lot of info out there from what I can tell.Anyone done it this way?
>>100349556USB is annoying, I did some experiments with orange pis and the cables get really messy and things like to disconnect if you sneeze near them. x86 would be rad, but it gets expensive quickly. $100-300, 10-40W, and desktop sized space per node is too much. The Kimax would be perfect, it's self-contained, compact, and cheap, but it only has 64MB RAM. MinIO needs at least 160MB. I tried putting that on zram on a USB SSD and it worked but completely trashed the filesystem performance.>>100359640I had an instance of pihole with 500k blocked domains and 100-200k queries per day and it only used 60-70MB RAM to do it's job. It only needs more if you use the web portal to generate long term reports.
>>100357367>They're rated for I believe 600MB/s and the access points are good connectionsActual speeds can be much lower depending on distance and the quality of the wiring in your house, I use a pair of those and get around 100mbit
>>100355195How much was it
>>100353063Where I live during winter (november-february) i would need 3KW hourly just for heating alone, as in ambient temperature. I didnt add heating water for shower purposes and so on.
>>100359294>>100360461>>100361025Thanks for your help. I'm going to give it a try on this machine.
>>100359870Interesting. Was gonna ask about it too because I remember seeing a similar one and it had some sort of knob someone opened with a loud 'snap' using some sort of keycard (in the back of car dealership)
why do mikrotik not add hardware failover capabilities to routeros
>>100357367>>100361613>>100350473If you have coax in the walls, MoCA adapters are amazing. That's what I have for my Nvidia shield in the living room, and you can easily run an ap off of one, as I did for a long time
>>100366123because they are for poor homelabbers, not real enterprise applications
>>100366220homelabbers dont bgp or mpls either but it's in there>but i-no you dont
>>100366220What thread do you think we're in? This is HOME server general, the people here are HOMElabbers, no one here is running an enterprise even if some of us use retired enterprise equipment.
>>100366123>2015+9>not using OPNsense
>>100352206>>100353368Install it to a fresh volume and have it copy your old settings over from the 'old' partition.You should have the extra space to do this if you're mainly trying to prevent Windows from managing disc hardware.>>100358120They were before SSD manufacturers figured out some standards. Alternatively, if it's really small, then it might only have one chip of flash memory instead of multiple, which is known to limit bandwidth.>>100360667U.2, generally Kioxia because weeaboo.>Ebay sloppy seconds usually have price parity with new consumer ssds>Absurd endurance that their previous owner probably didn't put a dent in>Power off protectionUnfortunate downsides include>Expensive to use multiple without bifurication available>Special cabling that will likely need an adapter for your motherboard>Even at idle they're toasty and eating 10~20 watts.But I also like separating roles between the disks being used, so I wouldn't necessarily discard sata ssds or m.2 ssds.
can I use a u.2 NVMe drive in a SAS 12g backplane? speed aside would it even work? or does it depend on the controller (the backplane is not an expander)
>>100367237Even though SAS SFF connectors are pcie data rated, it likely depends on what the card is expecting. But I can't claim to know enough about sas cards or sas protocol.
>>100362505$103 on Amazon, directly from Orange Pi's US Warehouse.https://www.amazon.com/Orange-Pi-Rockchip-Octa-core-Computer/dp/B0BLXWXSQQ
>>100343307Does anyone know of a simple LTFS formatting and archiving program for linux that just werks? I've been having difficulty in all sorts of retarded ways and while I've gotten tar to work for a little while, it doesn't have the capabilities I need, and im too smallbrained to get comfortable using anything run through the terminalcopy of this question basically: >>100370248>>100346282You can sell solar power back to the grid and make a healthy profit, cost over time is often more important than upfront anywayst. biz
i want raid on my tinymicro, has anyone tried to connect a SAS enclosure or something similar?
>>100372646Cute cat
>>100367118>have it copy your old settings over from the 'old' partition.i have no idea how to do this. i will have to find time to learn but what is the way?
>>100370449>You can sell solar power back to the grid and make a healthy profitnice meme frien. always love the "i get paid by the electric company now that i have solar" memes. enjoy your $43 when you go on vacation for a week and not running hvac like normal.
It is yet another day of the Chinese trying to break into my network.I should really automate filtering them into blacklists, and sending emails to the address holders.
>>100375725if it's a complaint from a country they don't give a shit about they probably won't take any action.couldn't imagine a US based ISP getting an email from north korea asking for action to be taken against an IP and they actually comply with it. what legal action could NK take against a US company? literally none.
I'm retarded.I have a proxmox container thats set up as smb server with 2 drive (one for OS and one for file storage).Whats the best/easiest way to do incremental backup only for the file storage drive?
>>100375794Yeah I know it would do nothing, but it would make me feel better, I just get annoyed seeing IPS hits.Also tbf its not china directly, I have country blocks and even some dynamic address feeds(not like I have ever seen those catch anything).I suppose at the end of the day its just the noise of the internet
>>100375881do you have all your stuff running on default ports or did they port scan?
>>100376226Just automated scanning of HTTPSThen attempting to use a patched vulnerabilityThe traffic is dropped, but it still makes me nervous to see
>>100376304i'd buy a botnet for a week and send some traffic their way
I got my switch, /hsg/. Now what? Holding the mode button doesn't get me Express Setup mode, and I don't see anything when connecting to 10.0.0.1.
>>100376340Eh that feels unwise.Ill just weather the stormI do trust my setup and so some degree PA L7 inspection
>>100376368>don't see anything when connecting to 10.0.0.1.Who is giving it 10.0.0.1
>>100376368isn't 10.0.0.1 netgear default
>>100376437>>100376482I dunno, I've just tried following this:https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3850/hardware/quick/guide/cat3850_gsg.html
>>100376513should be able to see device on netstat or whatever. maybe you need to type out http:// instead of letting it default to https://?
>>100375603>enjoy your $43 when you go on vacationyou mean $43 PER panel10c/kwh5kw panels8h/day (summer)price of electricity = 30c/kwh * 1000 = $300/MWh$43/0.1=430h5*8=40kwh/day ($4 paid $12 value)430/40=11 daysif avg is 1/2 thats 20kwh/day*365=7.3MWh = $730MWh / year plus $30*MWh you use so no less than $3000/pa for an americanjuggle those equations however you like but no matter what "christian math" you use you can only deny that its worth it if you also use "christian thinking"By the way, oil company shills always said that $300/mwh for solar was too expensive, knowing full well it was competitive with gas and nuclear. now it is $5/MWhr.
>>100376563Well, it doesn't look like the wired connection even connects. For the management port on the back the option to connect doesn't even appear.Would be nice if whoever sold me this told me how it was configured, lel.
>>100376571If all of this were true why don't mega rich millionaire/billionaires just buy a ton of solar panels and some cheap land out in the middle of nowhere and rake in the free cash completely cucking the entire energy industry?Oh right cause it's not anywhere near what you're shilling, you're making a ton of assumptions about the location of these panels in the first place, not everyone lives near the equator.Also anyone who knows anything about energy production knows that Hydroelectric is the best by far.
>>100376708it probably has another ip set already, is there a factory reset anywhere? i'd look again through IP of devices connected, it should be there just might be under something other than 10.0.0.1 or 192.168.x.x like you'd expect
>>100376571>price of electricity = 30c/kwhwhat cucked part of the world is paying 30c for electricity? US average is around 15c, where I live is 13c
>>100376708>Would be nice if whoever sold me this told me how it was configured, lel.You know you can just look it up right? The internet is a thing
>>100377468yeah just google a custom setup ip and password
>>100376928If I use link-local, it connects, but I'm the only up and running device (managment port or regular port). There's a way to reset it so hard that everything in flash will be wiped, but I dunno about that one.
>>100377743Maybe I should get myself console cable...
>>100346282>>100353063That's fucking psychotic, we're renting solar and have had, for the first time ever, an actually consistent and low bill.'Course i'd still tell anyone interested in solar to NEVER rent because these kike companies really rugpull you on how it *really* works, but it is legit from what we got it from. Probably could DIY it all for a better value.I can't imagine solar actually being crazy expensive today or even in the future, given the deal we have and many of our neighbors.
>>100377632You can fucking google the model of it and chances are you can find instructions on how to set it up and factory reset it if need be jesus christ. How do you even figure out how to post on 4chan if you need your hand held this badly?
>>100377775lurk moar faggot>>100376928
>>100377770>Probably could DIY it all for a better value.you're going to fuck up the positioning of the panel if you DIY.>I can't imagine solar actually being crazy expensive today or even in the futureYeah it's only like 10k for a setup, everybody's got that.
>>100377743I don't see why you wouldn't just factory reset it and run through the whole setup so there's no wacky shit from the previous owner that's gonna cause 30 hours of troubleshooting in the future.
>>10037790610k isnt expensive at all cunt save up for a year on minimum wagenot buying $200 worth of funko pops and unsoiled onaholes each month isnt that hard.
>>100377924Apparently the reset method will also remove IOS. I'm not sure how I'd proceed after that.Another reset method is mentioned on the Cisco pages, but it seems my switch is using IOS XE 3.6.0E or later, because I can't skip the first step which appears to require console.
>>100377934>save up for a year on minimum wage>7.25 per hour>40hrs per week>$15080 per year>even in income based housing it's 30% of your income>food $16 per day is $5840 for 1 year>$65/mo insurance $780 per year>cellphone $90/mo $1080$4524 housing$5840 food$1080 phone$780 insurance$12224 total.You have less than $3k left for internet or emergencies etc. That's also not owning a car.
>>100378101>7.25 per hour
>>100378126usa minimum wage
>>100378147*your shithole state minimum wagehow does it feel knowing that retarded niggerbrained californians flipping burgers are getting paid $20 an hour?and im not saying this as a brag i'm saying this because even the minimum wage isn't an excuse anymore.
>spend 20 hours learning, setting something up, toubleshooting etc.>never actually use it>delete>repeat
>>100378235are you me?
>>100378235I've seen this madness recently.It's okay to just make it and enjoy that it works - you can then go on to do new things. You don't have to just keep building the same project over and over.
>>100378194i bet it's 3 times expensive to live there
>>100378235>delete Couldn't be me
what is the point in a home server
>>100381404hoarding porn and capeshit movies
>>100381434i don't watch capeshit
>>100381404whats the point in a personal computer?
>>100381449i do work, play video games and watch youtube on it
>>100381404read the OP
>>100381461>workuse the work computers>video gamesbloat>watch youtubeyou can do this on your phone or tvyou don't need a PC
>>100381404To serve things hth
>>100377906>you're going to fuck up the positioning of the panel if you DIY.filtered by your IQ>Yeah it's only like 10k for a setup, everybody's got that.Go on marketplace and buy used, my setup was 1500
>>100350473I've tried most alternatives to just running a cable (wifi extender, Powerline) and they all suck.If running a cable or repurposing an existing one (MOCA) is possible then do that.>>100376368just console in and configure whatever IP you want. If you don't have one, get one because you'll need it eventually.
>>100343307I've bought better junk to replace my slightly older, worse junk.
>>100381916I think he knows
I have everything I need except for a case and SSD to make a media server but I was gonna ask here first - would it be better in the long run to buy a cheap intel nuc as the media server and use the normal hardware to build a nas or just do it all in one?
>>100381873>just console in and configure whatever IP you want. If you don't have one, get one because you'll need it eventually.After some searching it seems a Cisco Serial Console Rollover Adapter is the cheapest option... but I have a crimping tool and shit, can't I just chop one end off a regular old Cat5e cable and wire it for rollover? Sounds more fun too. I'll report results tomorrow.
>>100382367if you have the serial end and have either a serial port or a usb to serial converter already, then yes.
>>100382500Ah, guess that rollover adapter thing was a distraction then. Was thinking I could just RJ45 to RJ45 with the right wiring. Nvm then.
>>100382367you'll need a serial port on the computer you use as a console, ethernet rj45 doesn't support serial cables, so making one end a cisco rollover and the other end ethernet will be uselessyou'll need to buy a serial to USB adaptor at some point, weather you get an rj45 serial to usb or a db9 to usb (in which case you'll need an rj45 to db9 serial as well)
hello sirsi am new to homeserveringwould my old pc (i7 9700k, 32gb ram) be suitable to host plex/jellyfin, some poe security cameras and maybe a minecraft server?
>>100382849>no ECC>desktop CPU>only one CPU>not enterprise motherboard (eg dell, supermicro)>no RAID10>no IPMI>no SAS devices>no 25gb mellanoxno it's GARBAGE and shouldn't even be powered on let alone running anything that isn't some GAY video game fuck off from the SERVER thread with your COMOUTER that cannit possibly ever be a server!!!!!!!!11!!!!!one!!!!i kidthat's fine, good amount of RAM for the MC server and the CPU has good QSV so should handle transcoding just fine even up to 4k.you'd need a PoE switch of some sort for the cameras, i'm not sure what software you'd use to control them as i've always uses dedicated NVR boxes for simplicity.plus it's a good reuse of old hardware rather than sending it to landfil or africa
>>100382917thanks freni have a PoE switch ready, not sure what software to use for them yet but i'll do some research before setting it up
>>100343307which old laptop can be good for a first homeserver? I want to make something little NAS too for nextcloud, navidrome, jellyfin, just to save media (personal photos, movies/series, youtube videos and music mostly)
>>100382985if you don't already have an old laptop to use theres no point buying one for this sake. better off buying a NUC or miniPC, you'll get much better value for money even if you're spending a little bit more. Thinkcenters are often reccomended, dell optiplexes are also a good choice as they are both decently powerful and cheap since offices will buy a bunch at once throw the old out every few years
>>100383074That sounds really better than my idea, that can be adapted to have some little NAS right? I want to use Debian for everything
>>100382367>>100382500I agree with getting yourself a rollover cable for the console.>>100376368Does that USB mini port on the provide console access? (Seeing as its labelled 'console')
>>100383329>Does that USB mini port on the provide console access?yes, on most modern cisco devices the old rj45 console jacks have been replaced with miniUSB, and now are starting to be made usb C as well.
>>100383329>>100383359It's been 84 years since I've had a mini USB cable, and the USB-A port next to it isn't encircled to indicate it's also a console port. Should I cancel my serial adapters order?
>>100383635the type-A port is not for console, it is for attaching a flash drivr to copy/backup firmware, etcthe type-B port is the console port. if there is no rj45 labeled console, then the type-B is your only consoleas I said earlier rj45 ethernet ports cannot be used as serial console ports, they are entirely different protocols and ports just sharing the same plug, likewise that usb-B port doesn't actually do any USB (technically, read on), it only does serial console (rs232) just in a more convinient form factor. you should be able to use a regular type-B cable as the port is immediately cinverting the USB signal to serial.if you've ordered a cisco rollover cable you won't be able to use it here unless there is a dedicated rh45 port labeled "console". any usb-B cable should work, you'd use something like screen or putty to interface with the device over your usb cable, eg for screen (cli tool)>sudo screen /dev/usbtty0 9600 cs8you'd use the baud rate and parity bits cisco needs for this drvice, but probably it's 9600 and cs8 as they are pretttly standard and even cisco's braindead retard engineers don't change it for the sake of it (like they did when they made a proprietary serial port that only cisco uses, hence "rollover cable" rather than "regular fucking serial")
Don't be mean I'm a noob and have autism :(I want to backup my data to my second pc, nothing fancy just simple backups once a month, don't need to run it 24/7 or access it over internet1)I got told to use samba but why can't I just use the standard windows file share? Both pcs have win10 btw2)My parents also use local network and I don't want their pcs to be able to see my backup pc, because god knows what viruses and other shit their pcs could have. Should I buy managed switch and connect my pcs via vlan? Will it work?
>>100383967sorry for the trash spelling im phoneposting (ugh, i know) with fat fingerstl;dr you need a usb mini cable (i said usb-B i meant mini USB) and you should probably canel your serial adaptor cable order
>>100383989>samba but why can't I just use the standard windows file share?samba is a linux implimentation of the windows file share (SMB), if both are windows you use SMB if one is linux you use sambaSMB/samba also do actice directory stuff but you don't need to know that, just that SMB = windows, samba = linux>don't want their pcs to be able to see my backup pc,make it a non-broadcasting share (not sure how to do that specifically on windows) and just put a username/password on ityou could also put your PCs in the "anon's mum's basement" workgroup and your parebtcs PCs in the "healthy members of society" workgroup, and then they can't browse or mount the share without specifying the workgroup and userbame/password of a user in that workgroup
>>100383989>>100384039>(not sure how to do that specifically on windows)alright had a quick lookturn off network discovery (prevents them from seeing it without knowing the exact address), turn on password-protected file sharingmake sure your user has a password (you can also enable passwordless login if you like not needing to tyoe the password every boot)share the folder and remove the "everyone" permissions but add the "authenticated users" permissions which will deny guest access (enabling password protrcted sharing should also do this but this prevents some loopholes, although i think "authenticated users" is on by default rather than "everyone")you can also do the workgroup thing too, but it shouldn't really be necessary if you have net discovery off and PPS on
>>100383967>>100383993Oh, there's a console RJ45 port in the back. Was just thinking I might find use for the serial adapter cables on other stuff (for example the mini PC I recently got has apparently a RJ45 console port). But it's money I can waste if I feel like it another day. Cheaper and simpler to just go and get that USB mini cable tomorrow regardless (after making sure I don't already have any).Rate and bits match what I read in the manual.
>>100384122>I might find use for the serial adapter cables on other stufftypically only cisco stuff uses cisco rollover cables because cisco is run by jews that hate you, almost everything else uses a regular serial cable. the only people worse for this is eaton because their UPSs have console cables that look like RJ45 but have a little tab poking out so you cannot physically plug the cable in to any other deviceif your device has an RJ45 serial then you can use that, it shoukd be wired up electronically to the same place as the mini-usb port
>>100384170its a little tricky to see but this is what I was talking aboutI figure its to prevent you from using it in an ethernet port by mistake, but it also prevents you from using it in most other RJ45 serial ports unless you grind them off. FWIW theres no harm in trying, using a rollover in a straight port won't necessarily do any damage (the voltage is too low) it just don't work if it doesn't match
>>100384039>>100384112Thanks anon! I've had passwords but didn't know about workgroups, also when I tried to do the "authenticated users" method it would only allow me to add the local users (as in users of current pc) What about my plan with a switch? I want to learn more about networking anyway but I don't know if it will work the way I want itSo the route will be:Internet cabel that I connect to my routerRouter - wifi and cables to parents' pcsCable to my switch for internetSwitch itself2 cables for both of my pcs, for internet + vlan
>>100381916damn these are 1k where I live
>>100381935cute. specs?
>>100343307REEEEEI installed opnsense in proxmox, all is good and have two bridges and I can ping anything from opnesense itself, it's just I can't open the webgui, not on wan or lan interface!I think it's because it has an option to block access if you have a private local IP, but I can't change this option if I can't access the FUCKING UI, REEEEEEEIs there a way to change settings from the console?
is all ddr5 really ecc?
>>100384810not really, DDR5 does ECC on data in memory but not in transit, so it's not "real ECC" which runs checks on data entering and exiting the chip. while there are more parity bits (16 vs 8) than DDR4 had, it's not the same as buffered or registered ECC.DDR5's ECC is also there as a product of being so fast and so densely packed, as it's much mire susceptible to bitflips in memory and therefore needs some ECC to remain stable. in essance, "Real ECC" does the checks for overall system reliability, while DDR5 does checks just to cover it's own shortfalls.not to say DDR5 is somehow worse or more unstable than DDR4, it's just they had to add the checks to bring it in line with expectations for desktop memory (which means it is more stable but not by much)
If my cheap, shitty router can't run an OpenVPN server on 80/443, then my only real option is go further down the chain and run the server on something else in my LAN, right (and forward that port)?
>>100378235Half of the things on my server are theoretically working because I couldn't implement the final step to make it concrete. And I've been procrastinating on implementing things too.>>100384393Add a user account with password that the other one will login as. Go pick folders you want to share (someplace in admin tools) and add that user to them, making sure to deny guest account access from the folder's security tab. There are numerous tutorials to follow for this shit.Alternatively, you do not need to login if your user shares the same password+name on both machines, but you should use the user you made for anything you're automating.Adding a switch that you want for traffic isolation means it needs to be managed.>>100384787Define a static route to the subnet on your computer and send it to the base of that subnet instead. opnsense blocks webgui access on its WAN side, though going in from the wan side to the lan 'side' will allow it.But yes, console from the host will at least show you the appropriate addresses and which nic is wan and lan.>>100384810Not really. It only exists to catch its own errors managing memory at the speeds it's running, you still need a system that cares about ECC and ECC ddr5 to have the system utilize it.
>>100385414yes, i run wiregaurd on a pi and then forward that port from the router, so i connect to <my IP>:<wiregaurd port>pretty simple
>>100385581>Define a static route to the subnet on your computer and send it to the base of that subnet insteadLike setting up a static ip in my Ethernet adapter? I tried that and it didn't work>console from the host will at least show you the appropriate addresses and which nic is wan and lan.Yeah I know those and I can change and ping from there it's all good, i can't access the webui onlymine as followwan: 192.168.30.100lan: 192.168.1.1
>>100385833static r o u t eLook up the procedure for your OS. You would tell it has to go to 192.168.30.100 to reach 192.168.1.0
>>100385596Yeah, it was easy enough. Fucking cheap ass chinkshit that won't allow anything in the well known range.
>>100385883>static r o u t eAnd how do i define a static route to access it? my laptop is windows 10>Look up the procedure for your OS. You would tell it has to go toThe problem both of these ips are timeout if I try to access them in the browser, so even if I change the rout as you said, it think it will still hit a wall there
>>100385887that's actually a security feature (not allowing privileged ports), not a flawalso 80/443 are more than likely reserved for the router's manafement page, too
>>100343307I have opnsense on its own box.I have another machine running proxmox. It has 3 VMs on it. The first two are using docker with the first being for media, and the second for other utility apps. The last one is for Home Assistant using HAOS.I want to add two things to my setup: Adguard and a reverse proxy. Where do they go?Is it dumb to put a reverse proxy in the docker setup for the media server and the app server? Should I set up only one and route everything through that? I currently have a homer dashboard setup for each on individually so it seems odd merge the reverse proxies that way.And for adguard is it better to use the community plugin right on my opnsense box or should I consider a docker container?
>>100385414why on earth would you want to use the HTTP/HTTPS ports for anything that isn't HTTP/HTTPS? you're just going to cause a bunch of problems for yourself, eg webpages trying to send/request data but getting no response because the port is forwarded to a VPN
>>100386014>Adguardthe same device that serves DNS, likely your opnsense box>reverse proxyanywhere you like, if it's a local DNS entry only then opnsense could probably handle what you want with DNS anyway>put a reverse proxy in the docker setup for the media server and the app serverthis is how I do it. my docker-compose.yml for transmission/radarr/sonarr/jackett also includes NGINX for managing the reverse proxy and SSL>Should I set up only one and route everything through thatup to you. I have one NGINX proxy per domain, eg a seperate one for anon.lan and anon.com, each running in their own docker>the community plugin right on my opnsense boxthis would be simpler and faster but you might not want to do it this way, eg performance concerns or security concerns (running extra software that could have extra vulnerabilities on the most critical device in your network).>a docker containerthis would mean the docker container is now your DNS server, do with that what you will
>>100386095Well my entire home network is just a single domain, right? Wouldn't each VM + docker setup be a subdomain?I'm imagining it that media.anon.xyz takes me to my homer landing page and I can navigate graphically. Then each service would be like radarr.anon.xyz, sonarr.anon.xyz, etc.Can I go two layers deep if needed? Like sonarr.media.anon.xyz?Main reason I don't just want local DNS mappings is for proper certs on my services. Even if I'm only ever using them locally or via VPN. If I sacrifice simplicity and time for ideal best practices, where would my DNS and security stuff sit? Yet another physical machine purpose built for network admin and monitoring? Otherwise maybe I'll just stick it on the opnsense box.
>>100385949I learnt something today, thanks Anon.>>100386023I often find that anything other than 80/443 is blocked whenever I'm using something like public wi-fi so I can't remote into my own network (if I ever need to). maybe I'm doing it wrong, idk.
any recommendations for a 6E mesh system? my old alien amplifi doesn't have the range anymore
>>100385883I keep getting this error>The route addition failed: The parameter is incorrect.both correct subnet and allholyshit how retarded opensense to block the lan by default when people access it initially through lan!?
>>100386224>I'm imagining it that media.anon.xyz takes me to my homer landing page and I can navigate graphically. Then each service would be like radarr.anon.xyz, sonarr.anon.xyz, etc. yeah, basically>Can I go two layers deep if needed? Like sonarr.media.anon.xyz? you can but for that you're better off using subdirectories rather than subdomains>media.anon.xyz/sonarr>proper certs on my services. Even if I'm only ever using them locally or via VPN.so you're going to encrypt data from your client to your LAN, and then reencrpyt it from your router to your server? a bit redundant isn't it?>If I sacrifice simplicity and time for ideal best practices, where would my DNS and security stuff sit?best practise is KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupidyour DNS server can be a dedicated machine (real or virtual) and many people do this (myself included) but it doesn't really matter all that much. your router has been doing your DNS for your entire life so far, changing that won't really make a huge difference. enterprises will have dedicated DNS machines mostly for performance than security, although it can offer both. Eg. an office with 5,000 employees all needing to access the local intranet would but heavy strain on a DNS server so it's best to have a dedicated machine with amply powet (in this situation theres a good chance it's also the windows domain controller server)>Wouldn't each VM + docker setup be a subdomain? if you want. you can also use subdirectories, which I think is more common but a little more challanging to configure.my honest advice is go to https://perplexity.ai and ask it:>generate a docker command to create an NGINX reverse proxy config that will send requests for media.anon.xyz to 192.168.100.1:443 and media.anon.xyz/jellyfin to 192.168.100.2:8000 and blah blah. make sure it includes self-signed certificates for SSL on each host.tweak the prompt as needed and make sure to READ what it gives you before you run it and make sure you understand it
>>100385916Because opnsense is blocking webgui access via the WAN and your main router doesn't know where that other subnet is.>>100386321Which subnet is your laptop on?
>>100386333Really appreciate the advice anon. I can manage the tinkering fine but the bigger picture design questions always cause me to freeze. I think I know the way forward now.
>>100386333>my honest advice is go to https://perplexity.ai and ask itheres that prompt pasted exactly for referenceit's quite good at basic configurations like this, with docker already being braindead doing this means even my mum's dog could replicate the average /hsg/ setup in minutessorry to be a shill but it is really useful
>>100386366>Which subnet is your laptop on?my home router192.168.42.1255.255.255.0opnsensewan192.168.42.100255.255.255.0lan192.168.1.1255.255.255.0I even tried 10.10.0.1 255.0.0.0 but no luck, I keep getting that error if I try to add the route manually
>>100386763you are probably typing something in wrong, my guess is you don't understand what a route isa route would be something like>remote subnet: 192.168.42.0/24>interface: 192.168.1.1you may even need to specify a specific physical port depending on the router
>>100386808that's opnsense settings
>>100386763>that error if I try to add the route manuallyThen fix the syntax of your command.>>100386808The remote network is 192.168.1.0/24 in this case. Interface is 192.168.42.100opnsense already knows what network is outside. The home router and anon's laptop does not know about the subnet past opnsense.
>>100386808And that's why I try to add a route
>>100386867192.168.1.1 is not a network for that mask, it's an address.
>>100386889ok I added both>route add 192.168.1.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 192.168.42.1this is the gateway>route add 192.168.1.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 192.168.42.121my laptop ipstill no luck
>>100386867x.x.x.1 is not a network address, it's a client address.nerwork addresses can onky be even numbers, and for a /24 (255.255.255.0) you're basically looking at x.x.x.0so your network address is 192.168.1.0/24, also written as 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0check out this link if you wanna know a bit more about subnets and how they interacthttps://www.davidc.net/sites/default/subnets/subnets.html
>>100386913Jesus christ. Did you even read anything? No shit you're not having any luck because you're telling it to go to your home router for that subnet.Go look at this post again >>100386863
>>100386926yeah thanks I just did that part, no luck, still getting timeout
>>100386935so this?>route add 192.168.1.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 192.168.42.100
>>100386951https://www.cisconetsolutions.com/introduction-to-routing-protocols
>>100386951>>100386998actually i take it back, cisco docs suck try jeremy's IT labhttps://youtu.be/aHwAm8GYbn8?si=Ci5S_nZZWec4mAO6
>>100386998>>100387014I'm not expert in routing but I'm familiar with it overall, the issue is how to do that in windows, this is all in the assumption that doing the static routing will even solve the issue, as I doubt it but I'm trying. I did the line above and didn't work>route add 192.168.1.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 192.168.42.100I have a feeling some settings need to be triggered in opnsense console first
>>100387040>I'm not expert in routingTrue!>but I'm familiar with it overallFalse!
I'm thinking of making a home server and using it as a data graveyard, aka stuff I'd like to keep readily available but not actually on my main pc.I'll be using a spare machine I have laying around: Pentium e5200, 2x2GB DDR3, and a mobo from a Dell Vostro 230 with G41 chipset.The OS I'm currently thinking of is OpenMediaVault, booted from a 32gb micro sd card with an usb adapter, imaged once a month or so.Storage will be random hdds I have laying around. No backups because it's data I can easily redownload.Anything I'm missing?
>Thought about adding two of my old routers into a WAP>realized the new router i bought doesn't support PoEi made a mistake and didnt not fully plan out what i wanted and now i am suffering.
>>100387374maybe i'm just too old but I'll never understand choosing to use wireless instead of wired
>>100387531let me just plug my phone into an ethernet port real quick
>>100387531only because my family needs to use wireless. it's a direct ethernet cable for me.
>>100387546>/hsg/>uses phone to browse around the housethe absolute state
>>100387562what an asinine comment to make
>>100387374>mfw i just realized i have to fiddle with openwrt to get vlani should've just bought a mikrotik FUCK
WHEN THE FUCK IS HOME ASSISTANT GOING TO SUPPORT OIDCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETHIS IS THE ONLY APP IM HOSTING THAT I CANT PUT BEHIND MY AUTHENTIK SSO BECAUSE THE ANDROID APP CANT HANDLE AUTH REDIRECTSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>100387645if you can't figure out openwrt, routerOS is going to be so, so much worse
>>100387664whats wrong with routeros
>>100387671nothing is "wrong" with it but openwrt is very straightforward and user friendly, if you struggle with that then the complexities of routerOS will probably crush you. the UI is a mess of submenus in submenus with no tooltips and unhelpful labels, even someone with good experience would find it difficult to navigate and configure if unfamiliar with the OS. there is also very sparse (read: none) documentarion making learning it basically trial and error.i do appreciate that navigating the UI is fundamentally identical to the command structure, but that doesn't make it intuitive or easy.don't get me wrong, routerOS is powerful and I do like what I can do with it, but having configured and maintained a few thousand routers at this point, routerOS is by far the least user-friendlytry adding a port forward rule: do you know what all of these mean? if not, you will struggle.
>>100387765yeah none of that stuff makes sense. i admit i'm a fresh noob and retard into networking, so its' my first time actually attempting to configure anything at all. i've planned out a network map on how i want it to look like, and checked it with my friend who says its just works, but now its the implementing part
>>100387765>try adding a port forward rule: do you know what all of these mean? if not, you will struggle.heres the answer btw, if you didn't get that when looking at the previous pic (nevermind knowing how to get here) you won't have funbtw what i mean about the CLI and GUI being the same is this:to add the pictured rule, the command is>/ip firewall nat chain=dst-nat protocol=tcp dst-port=443 action=dst-nat to-address=192.168.69.42 to-ports=443and to do it in the GUI, you click IP, click firewall, click NAT, add rule, and select all those options. it makes it very easy to translate commands to GUI and vice versa, but you've gotta know what those things are and do to use it.on openWRT you go to the firewall tab, add a port forward rule, type in the port and the IP address to forward. tell me which one is easier to do
>>100387819NTA, but looking for a new router (and AP) and interested in MikroTik. I have some experience with openWRT and digging through it's configs because the UI lies. If the documentation is shit, do you have some resources that help?
>>100372786XY problem. Why do you believe an external SAS enclosure may be more beneficial than a server which supports more drives?
>>100388685chatGPT and/or a degree in networking
>>100376368Be patient. They take a long time to boot (> 5½ minutes), and go through the DHCP client process before falling back into a DHCP server mode if nothing else is plugged. Then it's located at 10.0.0.1 or alternatively 10.0.0.3 for connected downlink switch ports (not the console port).A console cable is your friend. The console port is RJ45 but not wired for Ethernet, it's serial.
10.0.0.1
10.0.0.3
>>100388685While they have a point about the web interface being unhelpful, WinBox (the downloadable maintenance utility, available on their website) makes it a bit more comfortable in my opinion. It's still lacking tooltips and labels, but at least their documentation is decent:https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/Their forums are active as well, so if you search for it, it's likely that someone has already asked and received an answer. But you do have to search for it, since the lack of "intuitiveness" exists on all the interfaces. Once you get past that, it's usable.An example with the WinBox interface, static routes.You'll find static routes under IP>Routes, and not under the Routing category. Not a major issue, but those small annoyances can add up. It's definitely not a system you can learn without using external resources (web documentation).
>>100389014winbox is functionally identical to the web UI though, it just has "windows" instead of tabs. all the buttons and submenus are in the same place
>>100383359>on most modern cisco devices the old rj45 console jacks have been replaced with miniUSBThose were removed from Catalyst 1000 rev. 2 switches, beiginning in late 2022. Rev. 1 has them.https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/smb/switches/Cisco-Business-Switching/kmgmt3430-removal-of-mini-usb-console-port-catalyst1000-cbs.html
>>100389061oh, they went back to rj45? is this only for cisco's mainline brand? i've installed meraki stuff with usb-c serial ports im sure of it
>>100383359>on most modern cisco devices the old rj45 console jacks have been replaced with miniUSB, and now are starting to be made usb C as well.Also the RJ45 console jack is not going away as I see it. Mini-USB is going away from some switches, and I've seen new Cisco branded console cables with RJ45 serial on the other end and USB-C on the management PC end.
>>100382917actually based OP>i kid>that's finenevermind
>>100389128>actually based OP >nevermindi was pretending to be an autistic jackass that shits on people learning and having fun and you call that... based?
>>100389050Yes, just like the console is identical in functionality.The main thing that "makes it a bit more comfortable in my opinion" is having windows instead of tabs.Instead of having to go through multiple tabs, you can open multiple windows, resize them as needed, and have all the relevant configuration parts available at a glance. Pretty useful when trying to implement changes to your environment.Or when trying to solve issues.But yes, it still has the same functionality as the web interface. Or the command line. Just in a more convenient form (IMO).
>>100384787>>100385916All this anon had to do was create a graphical VM connected to the LAN side of OPNsense and configure it from inside of that VM to unblock WAN access?I have to admit this anon is a retard for not knowing networking basics (CCNA level) and trying to virtualize an EOL firewall stack on a server instead of solving the problem the right way by acquiring an appliance at the core layer (not the access layer where the server may be). Too much to handle for a newbie, and the lack of proper support and documentation from OPNsense may be at play./hsg/ demonstrates ways of making things more difficult than it needs to be, once again. (XY problems)
>>100386014Conceiving a way how restoring backups affects data of services and availability in a VM, the best practice is to have one VM per service (unless this was a Kubernetes cluster) to minimize the blast radius.
>>100389205>/hsg/ demonstrates ways of making things more difficult than it needs to be, once againah, the classic:>why would you want to boil an egg? nobody boils eggs. you should try making an omlette instead
>>100386333>your router has been doing your DNS for your entire life so far, changing that won't really make a huge difference.These don't often have HTTP APIs (Terraform) or AXFR/IXFR zone transfer capabilities for DNS management, and the migration from a platform to another may be painful when hardware needs to be replaced. A dedicated DNS server is so much better.Active Directory (on-premises) is also much easier to setup with Windows DNS (kinda because of dynamic DNS from DHCP requests), although that has its own licensing issues (external connector or user/device CALs for DNS/DHCP users).
>>100387374No good reason a router should support PoE. That's a switch's job. An access/aggregate layer switch downstream of a core router typically won't be powered by PoE, only access devices at the access layer (e.g. APs or cameras) would be.
>>100387374A bad workaround: Add a PoE injector in between.
>>100389318eh while you are correct and that's all valid advice, the point was that if he's just running adguard and not doing anything complex, his router will be fineit's a home setup after all
>>100382917>enterprise motherboard (eg dell, supermicro)Does Supermicro even count as an "enterprise" motherboard OEM, or just as a server motherboard OEM?I mean, the last time I interacted with that platform from the Haswell era (X10 motherboards), BIOS upgrades required a licensed IPMI feature (HMAC-SHA1-96 of the MAC address of the BMC + a static secret key) or creating your own FreeDOS USB flash drive with a firmware update file (of all the things).Uploading a self-signed certificate chain from the IPMI web interface would brick the IPMI web server (stripped by the buggy IPMI software to only hold one intermediate certificate without its corresponding private key), requiring a full factory reset from Serial over LAN (SOL) using a raw IPMI command with hex bytes that were not well documented or easy to find.Try and compare Supermicro's online documentation (not hardware PDFs) to Dell's PowerEdge series, it's still a night and day difference.
>>100389588the only difference between enterprise and non enterprise is priceSM get used in datacenters all over the place, so it always makes me chuckle when home users here talk about how they "aren't really enterprise grade" like as if their home setup is somehow more financially liable than oracle's. then again, an oracle server is being replaced every 18-24 months so reliability isn't really that important in the long run for them.
>>100389014>WinBoxThat's kinda neat. One thing I hate about opnsense's webui is either needing multiple tabs open or jumping between functions that are similar but grouped separately in the sidebar shit.>>100389205Your solutions are>some temporary headache shit that ultimately wouldn't resolve their issue (surprise: opnsense wan webui access is bugged and always times out)>buy more trash for what's going to be less than a dozen managed addresses most likelyor>one command line they couldn't figure out how to input correctlyWith a static route they can now reach their services behind their firewall VM from their laptop and it resolves their webgui access because it's literally what I did to resolve the exact same issue for myself, even though I have two other ways to access the webui....assuming they deleted the incorrect routes they added and didn't reboot their laptop.
just want to set something up, why is networking so difficult.
>>100389994https://www.youtube.com/@JeremysITLabit's not really that complicatedcheck out this dudes videos, particularly his CCNA onesremember, only faggots give up when it gets tough
>>100390043>remember, only faggots give up when it gets toughwell fuck you, i'm not going to
>>100384575Xeon E5 V4 stuff is cheap here now that it's EOL. I've seen just the board in that system go as low as £50-60>>100384662Supermicro X10SL7-FXeon E3-1286 V332GB DDR3 ECCit does the job but I'm using all the cores for stuff now and can't do a lot more with it.
>>100389994are you the guy with the 3850?if you post your config I can take a look if you want (I'm a network engineer).
>>100388685I use mikrotik but it's kinda hardcore if you're coming from usual home routers.
>>100384393>>100385581>Adding a switch that you want for traffic isolation means it needs to be managed.Yeah I know, I can buy one for cheap here, like 40$What about openwrt? I just read that it has a built-in vlan function, and I think my router is powerful enough for openwrtBuying a switch seems a lot easier though
>>100390375All I need from it is: PPPoE over fiber, DHCP, firewall with port forwarding (v4, v6), and WiFi with auto channels. If possible "port forward failover" where it forwards to a client only if it's online.Now I don't mind some configuration pain, but will it be extreme suffering?
>>100343307Just blogging, ignore me.Noticing some pretty big procedural differences setting up mail on Rocky Linux 9 vs 8. I'm using a guide and knowledge gained doing it prior, but i'm also stopping to understand things i'm doing. It almost feels irresponsible sometimes because there are so many components but that's system administration. You can fuck with active directory without knowing how to set it up. I was installing SSL certs for IIS websites on windows servers and barely knew how to remote in to one. Not kidding. Feels good setting up my own email again, though.
>expanding ZFS array with a couple more mirrors, 4 drives total>first three drives pass badblocks without a hitch>the last drive comes in and is making horrible chirping and hard seeking noises even when idleI have such shit luck with DOA drives I swear every time I get a few there's always at least one that's fucked up.
I'm trying to setup SSL certs for use with nginx. Does my A record actually have to point anything if I'm just using it for DNS challenges? I don't want to supply my public IP and associate it with a domain, even if it is public.
>>100390493nice
>>100390852I've only ever done the HTTP challenge which does require a valid A record. However with you using the DNS challenge it probably won't be required, I think it uses a TXT record to verify ownership of the domain. This is for Let's Encrypt, I don't know what CA you're using. https://letsencrypt.org/docs/challenge-types/#dns-01-challenge
>>100345295threadripper is an order of magnitude more expensive, for which you get:- way more pcie lanes- way more memory bandwidthnot to discourage >>100345274, but the 5950x will struggle to utilize all 32 threads on consumer-tier memory bandwidth. i think a 5900x would have been better, or possibly one of the x3d variants.still, it feels really good to "maxx out" a platform.
I think my pi 3b+ just kicked the bucket.It doesn't boot anymore. Both LEDs just glow red and nothing happens.
>>100392315try another power supply
Any of you guys watch the Uncast?https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwisndMIdC6iEX9IyVbxBJQI think it's one of the better home server podcasts.
>>100343307I'm losing my cherry and messsing around putting some drives into an old computer I built in 2008, but my question is what do you guys use for UPS and do you use cloud management? I want the server to tell me when the ups engages from a power outage, so I can shut it down from work. Cyberpower seems to do this and cheap but only updates every 5 minutes, which is a long time.
>>100390493>setting up mail on Rocky Linux 9 vs 8.havent used anything rpm in a very long time, can't you still install RedHat and scam your way into their repos? or you need a subscription for any RHEL stuff nowadays
Why is there no cases like fractal design define but with a mesh panel for airflow
>>100392790You can get into the RHEL developer program and download the OS for free and activate up to 16 self-supported subscriptions. It's all legit no scam.https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/overview
>>100392856Wrong general.
>>100392329No joy. Just the red LED of death. It did run for several years straight though...
>>100393066How so?
>>100392906This. My reverse proxy is running on a red hat 8 server which I was able to download from signing up to that program.
>>100391777Checked, and this is the long and short of it honestly. I've been 'slumming' it for so long with the m5a97/fx8350 that given just how much more powerful lga4049 cpus are than what came before it made more sense to me to try and make an 'intermediate' upgrade to essentially max out what I could do with consumer gen 4 pcie/am4 hardware. I'm aware of the memory downsides as well, hence why I went full retard with as much server grade ECC as I could throw at it.
Why would you use RHEL voluntarily? Rocky is the exact same thing with no login required
>>100393846RHEL knowledge base and certifications.
>>100393861Knowledge base is exactly the same , I use RHEL docs when fucking around with my Rocky server
>>100393846Well, now that you can get it for free, there's no reason not to use the official distro.
>>100393942>>100393861>>100393395>>100393136>>100392715>>100392335new thread you guys:>>100394483>>100394483>>100394483
>>100393942More like since there an open clone no reason to use the corporate version that requires a login