>RTX 5060 8GB 128-bit GDDR6>losing in RAW performance again to 3060What a fucking waste of sand!
5060 or 4060?
>>1011677485060, they will have almost the same specs.
>>101167786Why not a 3060 if 4060 and 5060 performance are worse?
>>101167713>8GB>2024Its impossible to do 16GB?
>>101167713It has AV1 hardware encoding support with NVENC which the 3060 lacks.
>>101167801For now it's worth it but it will probably be made artificially worse in future drivers.
>>101167814all their ram sticks go to their ai cardsgaymers get leftovers
>>101167713You don’t know this yet, it hasn’t even come out.It could be even worse than the 3050!
>>101167713>>101167748You’re pretty much paying for the same card but you pass the conditional statement ‘if (int(CARD_NAME[0]) > 4)’Also Im aware thats Python, I fully expect the shitty nudev nvidia drivers to use it
>>101167827>NOOO you don't GET it I _NEED_ ML HARDWARE TO PLAY MY BING BING WAHOOSmanchildism is a mental illness
>>101167814it has like 10% of the coress 5090 hasit doesnt matter what the vram is, its just deficientanother piece of shit lineup where only the top end gpu is worth anythingand this piece of shit websites blocks copy pasting for some reason
>>10116801216GB vram 5060 will be faster for AI than 16 GB ram modules.
>>101167819So does the A580 for $160.
>>101167713nvidia is just competing with themselves to see how bad a gen they can make. I wouldn't be surprised if the 6060 still isn't better than a 3060.
>>101168012Jesus Christ the 5090 is a monster!
>>101168314Not that much when it'll get cut down to 448bits and 85% SMs of the full fat die
>>101167713>MUH BUS WIDTH>The solution? Stop kvetching and pay for RTX 5070 for $600 of course!>The more you buy, the more you saveI'll just keep buying refurbished RX 580 until the heat death of the universe.
>>101168406>MUH ALUMINUM BRAKES >The solution? Stop kvetching and pay for carbon ceramic composite brakes for $15000 of course!>the more you buy the more you save I'll just keep driving my shitbox nissan altima until the heat death of the universe.
>>101168314Starting at $5089
>>101167713>What a fucking waste of sand!*waste of copperSand is practically infinite, kek
If you have 3080, 3090, 4070, 4080 or 4090, then you most likely don't want/need to upgrade into 50 series.
>>101167826update-addicts getting screwed first will be the warning to the rest of us
>>101168650I have a 3090 but want to get a card with as much or more VRAM and less power draw
I don't understand why the low end has to be such shit value when it's not competing against anything but itself.
>>1011686503070 has been perfectly fine on a 2k monitor. I'm running stable diffusion fine as well.
>>101168518fuck you, I love my shitbox
at this point is there even a reason to wait for blackwell if i’m not going to buy a 5090? should i just get a 4080 super and be done with it?
>>101169090well 5080 isnt far from launch, just see how good perf/features it has and go on from there
>>101169090There's no reason to get a 40 series either actually. Literally just take up reading instead if you don't have a pc at the moment.
>>101168012>4 less SMyou gotta be kidding
They're going to keep lowering performance on these cards while increasing prices. The only draw to them right now are fake frames and upscaling.Rumors are the new AMD cards will be shit too. Intel save us.
>>101168650i have a 3080, i basically need to get a 5080 or better to justify a significant performance jump but that's going to cost a ton, paying $1100 for this 3080 back in 2021 was painful enough
>>101168650We'll see how fast the 5000-series really is.
>>101169225Speed is irrelevant when we know any increase in performance will be met by an equal or higher increase in price. You can write off the 5000 series with confidence. It will be shit.
>>101169328Based on what? 4090 is a lot faster than 3090 and the MSRP difference is what, $100?
>>101168012I have a 3080 and was looking to upgrade with this next gen. Should I just be looking at getting an 7900xtx and say fuck it? Not sure I want to drop near 3k CAD for the only card likely worth getting.
>>101169560why downgrade from 3080 to amdOnly thing you cant do on 3080 is maxed ray tracing in alan wake 2 and the like
they probably dont want to waste good chips on gayming gpus anymore, if the 5000 series sucks then just buy used 4000 series cards from retards who always upgrade. should be good value cards out there from people who want a quick buck
>>101169473The 4090 was 2x the performance of the 3080 for more than 2x the price. No $2500 4090ti that's only 10% faster than the 4090 was released so they don't have an easy comparison point next gen meaning any gains in performance/price will be the same as the 4080 vs the 3080 or the 4060ti vs the 3060ti (ie. none at all).
>>101169560I would say yes, but neither Nvidia or AMD has released their next set yet. So I would hold of until they actually release.
>>101168518Carbon ceramic replaces ductile iron for the brake rotors, both use aluminum calipers and no brake system uses aluminum anywhere else.>muh aluminum drums on muh 70s shitboxYeah, I know. Don't care.
>>101169473>4090 is a lot faster than 3090This is just an indictment of how shit the 3090 was, just a smidge faster than the 3080 for twice the price.
>>101167819what is the advantage of this?
>>101167713That's not even the worst part.
>>101169968you can encode videos faster?
>>1011695792k at min 144hz, ideally 240.
>>101167713Just buy last gen for half price DLSS and AI slop isn't worth it
>>101167814I have the 4060ti 16gb. I like it
I have a 1070, what do I upgrade to?
>>101170151depends on what you use it for
>>101170168gaymen, "AI" is for retards
>>101170184whats ur budget
>>101167713it's just rumours, vram can be adjusted way later than the rest
>>101170224https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-neural-texture-compressionthey wont increase amount of vram, they'll just compress textures harder with ai
>>101170240Thanks nostradamus.
>>101169968Encode AV1 videos at blazing fast speeds.
>>101170073>>101170453Cool but why would I need to do AV1 video? what is the advantage of AV1 encoder of any other encoding? I feel like AV1 is just a new thing and people like it.
>>101170525making small filesize webms at decent quality I guess
>>1011677138GB VRAM FUCK YOU NVIDIA
>>1011691534070S has 12 less SM than a 3080 while being faster than a 3090
>>101167713Sources are speaking to me from within nvidia HQ it seems AMD completely blindsided them this time. RDNA4 was supposed to just be midrange and it is. But they can glue two RDNA4 chiplets to make a super RDNA4 which I'm told will be called 8900XTXtreme. This chip is supposed to consume 400W tdp but deliver 2x 4090 performance. With top blackwell only reaching 60% over 4090. Nvidia is in complete panic mode.Jensen is furious, all the shops in taipei has ran out of 48inch oled because jensen keeps smashing them.And meanwhile MI300X is outselling H100 nine to one. Details of which will be released exclusively to my petreon.
>>101170224Rumor mongers also dont account for 3GB gddr7 modules released mid next year
>>101167713>8GBFuck you, nvidia.
>>101170093What processor? Upgrading to faster single core performance usually will net you a lot of frames. Especially if you're still on something like a 3700x or similar.
>>1011701844070S is the only current card that is an okay value. Otherwise just get a used 3060ti
>>101170796My uncle works at AMD and he said the company is going bankrupt
>>101168518Dumping money into depriciating assets like video cards and cars is a financially poor decision. Just get a xx60 or xx60ti for 6 years per build and drive a toyota or a subaru for 12 years per car.
>>1011708534070S has the big asterisk of only being 12GB, there's already games hitting that limit at 1440p. There's literally no good nvidia card this generationAMD could clean up if they actually priced their own cards reasonable, and did so at launch instead of falling for the high ASP meme and proceeding to sell none of them.
>>101168650>>101168837I'll go from a 3070 to a 5090 because I got one meme 4k qdoled, also fuck 8gb vram
>>101170891Until this console gen ends (and actually has games) it won't be a problem. The next actually good game will be gta6 and they will optimize the fuck out of it because they're actually competent devs there. I play games at 4k/60hz on a 3060 because I also will not pay over $25 for a video game. (Before the covid money printing it was $20 limit on paying for a game and back in 2012 it was $15)
>>101170921>next actually good game will be gta6lmao fuck off with your normieslop
>>101167713>8GBis this a joke?
>>101167713i mean 4060 also loses in performance to 3060what's the news, that nvidia cucks their shittiest customers?
So my 6700xt will still be faster than a 3060, 4060, and 5060 but still be slower than a 3070. Got it
>>101167713>8GB 128-bitthis has to be fake
>>101169213>those shoes
>8gbThat 500bil was a start, let's see if we can get another 41% in there.
>>101170557that you can't upload here because hiroshimoot is a faggot, besides for quality webms you'd want to use svt-av1 with low presets
>8GB>128-bitHoly kek it's real
>>101168650i have a 3080, but since i was gifted a 4k 240hz monitor i feel like i need to consoom a new gfx card
>>101171722why did you ask your mom for a 4k monitor if you're a gamer?
>>101171773her boyfriend bought it for me
>>101171782just game at 1080p then
>>101168314>>101168012How much VRAM will the 5090 have? Anything less than 36GB and it's DOA
>>101168650got a rtx 3070 and i'm thinking of upgrading to 16GB, so either an RTX 5070 or 5070 Ti, if the 5070 Ti only has 12GB then idk, would a 4070 Ti Super be bettter then ? it has 16GB.i want 16GB for raytracing at 3440x1440p.is it a good strategy ?does a 4GB VRAM increase matter more than raw performances ?
>>101171961>512-bit busProbably 32 GB. Unless it's cut-down.
Everyone here is retardedBlackwell architecture is not the same as Ada Lovelace, you cannot compare themTry using you brain sometime this century
>>101172132but low VRAM is still a limiting factor for raytracing.
>>101171961Gayming SKUs will intentionally have gimped VRAM capacity moving forward. Ampere and Lovelace made it painfully obvious. Nvidia doesn't want to undercut its much more profitable ML/datacenter SKUs.>8GiBIts intended market doesn't care nor are running assets and resolutions that greatly exceed that 8GiB capacity.The vast majority of the people who are actually fretting over VRAM capacity are poor-fag ML-types.
>>101172180>poor-fag ML-types>5090Hmm nyo
>>101167713At this point if you want to gayme then just buy a cheap console. I refuse to pay nearly £2 grand to buy a graphics card.
>>101167826Has Nvidia done that before?
>>101170891>4070S has the big asterisk of only being 12GB, there's already games hitting that limit at 1440p.If you crank-up assets like a retard. Gayming consoles are the baseline for developers and they aren't going too far beyond 8GiB if at all.
>>101167713oh boy I can't wait for cheap 3090 ti
>>101172185>talking about the rumored "5060">moves VRAM goalposts 5090 will still be poor-fag tier in ML-tier. The ML/datacenter versions will have more VRAM capacity and command much higher price tags.Gaymers haven't matter much for Nvidia since Turing and the apathy has grown since. Paypig Nvidiots are too blind to see this.
>>101172192the best console on the market currently uses the equivalent of a slightly worse rtx 2070 with worse graphics than on PC and fake 4K, get real peasant.
>>101172222Look at the comment you replied to retard, it explicit states 5090. On top of that calling people "Paypig Nvidiots" when Nvidia have a functional monopoly and there's no justifiable alternatives is moronic, you either pay up or go without
>>101172238> Nvidia have a functional monopolyA hard nope. There are plenty of alternatives. Brand-fagging are going to be brand-fagging.Nvidia's marketing won hard by making their brand-fags be as zealous as Macoyles.
>>101172267AMD has no Shadowplay, a worse version of DLSS and you can barely use it for AI. Intel is even worse. Not to mention AMD prices aren't exactly a good deal, they need to be significantly cheaper to make any tradeoffs worth it
Wouldn't be their first time.
>>101170701>faster than a 3090*at 1080p
>>101172280>Brand-fagging doubling down on memes they you don't *need* at all and are very similar of memes found in the Macoytle ecosystem
>>101172396>Regularly use features>You don't need them>Settle for less while saving almost no moneyAnything you say shill
>>101172401>Shill getting called out for hard brand-fagging >Pathetically tries to deflect it Stay classy
>>101167814That would cost them like $8, and thus eat into their 60-70% profit margin floor. Besides, people paid 500-700$ for the 3060 Ti and 3070 in 2020-2022.
>>101172440>Shilling for AMD in a thread about new Nvidia products>Has no argument for why people should consider AMD>Calls other people brand-faggotsHmm I wonder who the faggot is here
>>101167985>gddr memory chips>ml hardwarelol
>>101168012>107/106/104 chips keep getting their SMs cutjust nvidia things
>>101172459>Shill tries to use whataboutism and flops hard
>>101172450i paid 579 euros for a 3070 in 2022, i got 10 euros off but i still paid shipping lol
>>101172480There's no whataboutism there, you never made an argument you just screeched at others for discussing upcoming products. Infact looking back on it your initial comment you butting into a conversation about the 5090 then claiming people were talking about the 5060. Not only can you not read but you're projecting your own logical fallacies onto others. Hiliarious but sad, we're done and I accept your seething replies with a smile
>>101167713What games are worth spending $3k on a GPU?
>>101172450People were forced to pay the mining tax in 2020-2022. They had to spend extra and then mine off the difference to get it down to something they were okay with. With the mining meme being dead 2020-2022 prices are irrelevant to everyone.
>>1011708487800x3d. I upgraded to this from an intel 9700k last year. made a massive difference.
>>101167814You'd have to double the bandwidth otherwise it'd be worthless like the 4060 16GB
>>101172534>gamesno one games with an nvidia anymorethey're for ai and video encoding
>>101168012>5090 gets a huge uploft over the 4090>while the lower cards are almost the same, sometimes worse than the predecessorjesus christ
Thanks nvidia for keeping my 3060 12gb still relevant for every upcoming game for atleast two more years when 6060 releases
>>101168012i just want to render coomershit ai faster
>>101172765poorfag cope, go back under your rock AMDrone.Nvidia is better for everything including raytracing and DLSS.and the drivers aren't shit.
>>101172855>seething paragraph of retardationlmao
>>101167814Surpassing 24GB is absolutely impossible.>>101170891>AMD could clean up if they actually priced their own cards reasonableThey gave up on that because it only really benefits people waiting for Nvidia cards to drop in price.
>>101172867AMD cards cost as much as NVIDIA cards but without RT, DLSS, FG and their high prices cards aren't as powerful, sorry to break your bubble, pajeet.
>>101172969>They gave up on that because it only really benefits people waiting for Nvidia cards to drop in price.That reasoning is why AMD's GPU marketshare is plummeting and the lowest it's been in years
>>101168650I need a card that can run my 5120x1440 screen at 240 Hz. Can the 5090 do it?
>>101173327Not like it was flourishing before that.
>>101173327That's literal fake news though. AMD had a good 2023 as far as discrete GPU sales went. What you retards who only read headlines seemingly cannot grasp is that what you see reported are quarterly figures. Sales for a three-month period, i.e. literally nothing to do with existing install base. AMD had a poor Q1 2024 and the usual clickbait outlets began their doomsaying about Radeon sales had "collapsed" and "nobody" is buying them - completely ignoring the entirely of 2023 in the process. Then people with a low IQ such as yourself run around parroting that misinformation, because you lack the critical thinking skills required to process and understand data without editorialization.
OP is a retarded smoothbrainlet faggotGDDR7 means that RTX 5060 will have MORE memory bandwidth than RTX 3060
>>101172300I had this piece of shit with no pixel shader support. AGP version == no upgrade. Stuck playing far cry 1 era games until 2012 (no complains)
>>101170525another pedo complaining about muh price performancetry cyanide cunt. end yourself waste of fucking oxygen
>>1011739118GB is still 8GB. Faster, sure, but still 8GB.
>>101172534none, $3k card is super overkill for the best games
>>101172534I get far more joy from my Breville espresso machine than my PS5. And use it more often.
>>101172193make a new gen seem appealing through support with updates and neglecting old gens? yes
>>101172806Jacket man wasn't lying that it was a good time to upgrade then. I went from 760 to 3060. Looks like 2028 will be time to upgrade again.
>>101173911Anon it says in the op pic that the 5060 will have gddr6.
>>101174100ywnbaw
>>101174301PS5 will never have games.
>>101170960>implying you can't run any indie game on a 1060Only AAA is relevent for gpus. Illusion died. There will be no shitty looking game that needs a good gpu to run due to developer incompetence from them again.
>>101174100It's this piece of shit for me.
>>101174296https://www.anandtech.com/show/15701/nvidias-geforce-gtx-1650-gddr6-released-gddr5-price-parityAnon, are you retarded? GDDR6 production is winding down and GDDR7 will replace it even in lowest end RTX 5060 and RTX 5050
>>101167713You mean just like the 3060 was losing to 2060 in most metrics?
>>101173541More than likely any CPU you have will bottleneck.
>>101168518lmao dipshit thinks he said something logical.you just proved the guy you were responding to with an analogy which works against you, imbecile
>>101174631Its nvidia recycling older gen memory they get for cheap. And creating a product segmentation
We are having a rx470/480 -> ps4 pro scenario again because of the ps5 pro on the amd side. Nvidia can pull the shittiest behavior. Just vote with your wallet. Eventually there'll be AI ASICs to send their stocks down under.
>>101174409>>101174100Cold Brew is better and doesn't require a faggy machine
>>101167713Get a real system GB200 nvl72
>>101168650If the 5090 is 50% faster than the 4090 at machine learning I'm buying two.
>>101167819NO USECASE FOUND ASSHOLE
>>101172280Man, the GPU companies really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel once they realized their generational gains were slowing down while prices kept climbing. >ShadowplayI remember when game streaming was rightfully mocked, guess all you need is a good YouTube marketing campaign and a new generation of consumers. >DLSSwhy do people care about a poorfag toaster feature when discussing high end SKUs?
what if it's NVIDIA leaking this : >>101168012 on purpose to see if people are happy or not before they produce anything ?i mean at this point it's fair to say they don't want to announce anything for 2024 but more likely in Q1 2025 at best.
>>101174197Care to share any examples?
>>1011725344k with 2.5x dsr factors
>>101175014Cold brew is the vegan food of the coffee world
>>101175739>their generational gains were slowing downThis isn't a thing, why do you parrot such retarded shit when you can easily pull up like 10 or 20 years worth of data and see it's simply not true? A 4090 is like 70% faster than a 3090, where is the slow down? You can go back 10 years and 70% gain per generation is still above average, in fact in the last 10 years I'm pretty sure there has only been 1 generation which did better than this, namely Pascal. You can go back 20 years and even in the mid-2000s a 70%+ perf gain between generations was still respectable.
engineers seem to be developing AI shit instead
>>101174253Except when it starts to be artificially worsened in future drivers. But yes, it's a solid card even today.>>101177951The actual percentage is 40%, pajeet.
>>101172501>The shill is doubling down on being anally devastated. Brand-fagging, not even once
12600k and 3080 here. I do not see a reason to upgrade at all for a while.
>>101172534Honestly, nothing really. You hit massive diminishing returns going beyond $599, only max-min types are willing to put up with it. Most modern AAA games with the eye candy are just single-ticket interactive cinema. Most of the games that people keep coming for don't even a discrete GPU.
>>101179788
>>101179810It was sort of in response to a bunch of people with 3080s in the middle of this thread but I couldn't really answer to anyone in particular so I just decided to respond to nobody.
>>101173213>Nvidiot pretends that AMD is still on GCNNvidia just has faster SKUs at higher price points, that's it. Min-max types will gravitate towards for Nvidia for this reason alone. They don't care for silly memes.
2070 Super still going strong, should i skip this gen as well?
>>101175739Shadowplay isn't even special at all. There are a good number of streaming tools there and better solutions that are vendor-agnostic.
>>101172534VR mods in 4K downscaled
>>101175623Any serious encoding is done by the CPU. GPU streaming is a only useful for laptops/ultraportables due to power considerations.
>>101179943>my usecase is fulfilled, should I upgrade to a gimped overpriced product they are gonna 'fix' in later dates as "super/ti" variants? that's the question you're asking. But to clarify, the answer is: yes, unless you feel the need to upgrade.
>>101177905cold brew is the simplest way to make coffee, tastes great (if you use good beans), and is fairly efficient. You can do it with just a sealed cup, grinder, filter, and water. If vegans were this superior, I wouldn't mind being one desu.
>>101172222doesn't matter there's no real competition in town for the top end cardsI want to gayme and do some local ml shit, top end nvidia cards are the only option for this
>>101168406>the more you buy the more saveisn't that their data centre grade motto? doesn't even work for consumer tier cards
>>1011686504080 here, will buy 5090 if its under £2,000
>>101170796>jensen keeps smashing themkek
>>101172765I game with it and have been for over 20 years so stfu liar
>>101177905>>101174100>>101174409get load of these fuckersmeanwhile I just use instant coffee
>>101172098It will be, the current rumours are 448 bit, so 28 GB.
>>101173959>another pedois this the new troon lingo? I keep seeing it used when its not even relevant
If AMD was smart they'd do what they had to for Cuda compatibility then squirt a card out with >24gb vram
So there's still no gpu that can do 4k 120hz native no upscaling? I get part of that is due to incompetent developers (seemingly most of """AAA""" industry)
>>101182652games are made to use upscalingits like complaining that games use shaders
>>101182652My 1050ti does morrowind in 4k at 460fps. Clearly this is user error.
>>101180806KNEEL(the small ones don't actually work)
>>101180806I just buy a black starbucks cold brew with no ice with the app so I don't have to tip then pour it on ice and split it over 2 days
I'll just get X090 after the ai bubble crashes. You retards wanting a 5000 series are like retards buying gous during the peak of crypto mining bubble.
>>101182942s-shut up
>>101179964This. The intended use case for GPU encoding is live streaming since it's extremely low-latency. It can only do this because it throws away over 70% of the video information. Doesn't matter if you're encoding in HEVC, AVC, or VVC... if you're using HW encoding it's gonna look like ass. Someone should let scene release groups know...
>>101181247lobby us gov to let them use cuda
>>101167713>5090 not release or announced>5060 is 6 month to a year behind >seething about it has started already wut?
>>101172377It's an 8% difference. Doubtless it's smaller at 1440p which is the meta now, 4K is too intensive to guarantee high frames.
>>10117816240% is vfm, pajeet.
>>101174100>I HECKING LOVE COFFEE, I CAN'T HECKING LIVE WITHOUT IT!!!!you will never be a man
>>101167713where the fuck did you even get this data from? that niggerball obsessed retard that says "hmmm yes it might have 8GB VRAM or it might not" on twitter?
>>101167786Source?
>2024>they/them still drink coffee
>>101168766To push you to buy the high end.
>>101170880Excellent point. I will rethink my buying a used 4090 when the 5090 comes out.Im just playing sonic the hedgehog on retro arch anyway right now.
>>101167713LMAOnshartia's fanboys are so stupid that they will buy it anyway.
>>101182942>>101182953if robot Ai waifus are ever a thing, the bubble won't be a bubble anymore and it will never go down.a chinese company is going to sell a real robot sex doll and girlfriend with an AI custom personality this year around Fall, price is around 5k i think.now imagine being able to input anything yourself with a bricked robot in the near future.
>>101186000>2024>xe still relies on the caffeine jew to livegood goy
The 5080 is going to be around 4090D levels of performance so adjust your expectations accordingly. We know this because the rumor is they plan to launch it first before the 5090 because they want something for the Chinese market. They can't launch something stronger than the 4090D because of the sanctions. VRAM is looking like it is gonna be the same as the 40 series. This generation is a total wash unless you really wanna spend a months mortgage on another graphics card.
>>101168650Gonna go from a 970 to a 4070. Then gonna update again after 7-8 years. Unlike zoomers my mind can handle vidya games dropping below 60fps
The whole 3 series is still GOATED, I swear the key is buying every other gen with Nvidia. This DLSS meme bullshit is just smokescreen for shit cards.
>>101172534Koikatsu VR
>>101187287>muh rumorsonly women discuss based on rumors and no factstoo bad you'll never be a real woman
>>101187615in retrospect 30xx gpus inability to play rt games at decent fps means it might as well not be thereIts just this awkward early adopter period that lasts like a decadeLike people buy 4090 for 2k€ to play rt games at 1440p at decent fps with DLSS, ofc 99% of gamers are excluded from that fun.
>>101174409As long as it's a pump machine and not a steam-driven machine it's all good. But I like having the grinder attached; thought it was gimmicky at the time but it's a huge space saver on the counter. >>101175014Cold brew has its place, but is inferior to an iced americano. IMHO tastes way too green like >>101177905 said. >>101182889Those are the best point on the cost/quality curve. I have one of those in a 6-cup I use for camping, but replaced it with the pump espresso machine for home use. They don't technically make espresso but it's basically the same thing. And cuban coffee is God tier... too bad I don't consume sugar anymore. >>101182913That's a great idea, esp when travelling.
>>101182889this thing is the final solution to the machine question desu.pour over is not nearly as good and no machine is worth their cost compared to this beast.the stainless steel ones are better though.oh and make sure to buy aeropress filters because unfiltered mokapot is honestly mid as hell.The only other way I make coffee is immersion style with some generic finum basket thing in a mug. Both immersion and percolation have their uses depending what flavors you want.
>>101167814Historically nvidia has been stingy with vram, if you want a decent amount you need to get the higher end cards.
>>101188009That's very far off since anything above 1080p 144hz and RT are still very low return for the cost of investment. By the time 4K (or something higher) and whatever replaces RT actually becomes a standard, everything before the 70xx series is going to be irrelevant. Because the industry has failed to cause a conversion to 1440 or 4K at this point. Which is why DLSS is such a shitshow/memetech. You get a higher res monitor and then shittier graphics as your GPU attempts to hallucinate 100 extra frames out of the 20 it's actually able to process.
>>101188409>as your GPU attempts to hallucinate 100 extra frames out of the 20 it's actually able to process.kek
>>101187444basedI'll upgrade from 1660 super to 4070 super and that should be it for at least 5 yearswould consider ayyymd but jesus christ they are so fucking far behind
>>101188409>the industry has failed to cause a conversion to 1440 or 4K at this pointIt's just not going to happen anyway, the 1060 and 4080 were both quite competent 1440p cards in their time but companies have crippled their low end and shot up the prices for other GPU into the stratosphere. Unless everyone becomes rich, you're just not going to see mass adoption of higher resolutions, people just aren't about to start spending 3K+ on a computer regularly.
>>101187444For me it was 760->3060
>>101187703Rip illusion. We will never have a game that looks as bad as a cell phone game and is a crysis level system test as ai shoujo again
>>101168766Decoy pricing. Now you wont even consider the $350-500 segment and are forced to just buy a $600+ card
>>101191011I played my 760 in 4k because all I played was dota 2. It really doesn't matter unless you are playing AAA titles that usually aren't that good anyway. Witcher 3 and rdr2 were the games of the decade and they ran on low end hardware easily because the developers were competent.
>>101191079RTX 3060 12gB card is the best cost / VRAM point on the market rn. If you're running stable diffusion or playing with smaller LLMs its very usable, until you get into serious LLM machines at 20X the cost.
>>101172196both game consoles are 16GiB, even the switch 2 is rumored to have at least 12
>>101172799Nvidia has always been greedy, but the AI hype has probably brought in more investors who know NOTHING about the product they are selling. I suspect Blackwell (consumer) will be the worst Nvidia generation ever (worse than Turing or Fermi/Kepler). I just hope AMD and Intel and provide some decent offerings in the sub 500 dollar range.
>>101191261I played with sd but I want to try llama training. Specifically to feed it transcriptions of every Tim Dillon episode and make a Tim textbot
>>101177648frame generation being locked because of " hardware " worst goyim lie of nvidia
>>101191261and it runs games good to boot
>>10119134916gb of shared or half shared memory.
>>101191429I would be willing to try an intel card
>>101191537Someone ported nvidias FG to RE4 remake, it works with any 20/30 series card just fine. It just nvidia being nvidia.
>>101168650I'm waiting for the 6090 because heh funny number
>>101178162>The actual percentage is 40%, pajeet.why even lie. I have both, it averages around 60% , some things are twice as fast as a 3090pic - same pc , different GPU
guess I'll keep my GTX 970 for another 10 years.
>>101193686Wrong game https://youtu.be/jQg0S8p3rg0?si=C0oLo80Q_0ODxJly>n-no you see you need to upgrade cause not enough tensor cores!
>>101182889CHECK THE VALVE DAILY
>>101178162>The actual percentage is 40%, pajeet.It's not, projecting shitskin filth. It's even higher in RT btw, in some cases 4090 is double speed. Maybe you're asshurt because it's expensive or something, but that's no reason to lie about performance.
1080ti is finally showing it's age, I'm considering a 7800xt as a replacement or 7900xtx to do some AI stuff since 11GB vram isn't much.Is rocm good for stablediffusion/llama yet?
>>101168650Got a 7900 XTX. If the 5090 is 60%+ faster at rasterization, has more VRAM and doesn't cost more than the 4090 then I'll upgrade.
>>101174100>>101174409losers, quit being poor and get an es.1
>>101196393The 5080 will be 60% faster than the 4090 with the same amount of VRAM. The 5090 will cost more.
faggot shit
>>101172534cyberpunk 2077Minecraft
>>101167713It's amazing that there are 238 posts spawned from an OP and thread with zero facts. Simply amazing how retarded this thread is.
>>101168012>512bitIs this new? Last time (a week or two ago) I checked it was 400 something bit. Before that leak it was 512 tho... So it's 512bit again or is this old?Also, >28 gibibites vram instead of 32I'm waiting for 5090 to buy, but it hurts to pay premium for 28 gibibytes...
>>101180809that could make me sit out a drink laughing if I saw the headline. womp womp.
Since this is the GPU thread now, I want to ask ALL gpu fags in this thread!Tell me the most modern oem or brand card you know that is not black pcb., the better performance the higher I rate your answer. I alreadyh found one intel arc in blue, but I'm hoping for a green too.
>>101172280what does shadow play do these days? streaming? instant replay? recording?what of these doesn't AMD do? I recall using OBS for instant replay because of how much njewdia experience sucked
>>101199396What zero facts? Blackwell is using GDDR7, periodhttps://semiconductor.samsung.com/dram/gddr/gddr7/https://www.micron.com/products/memory/graphics-memory/gddr7
>>101170891>>101170853>>101170184>muh 1440pyou dont need it>butyou do not need it
>>101193716honestly i'lll probably buy this as well, kek.
>>101199478anyone? i really need the answer to this.
>>101199544>>101199478Contrary to what you read on /g/, green PCB GPUs are not more environment friendly than other color GPUs.
i have a 3060 rn, will be upgrading to a battlemage gpu when they release
>>101199560I dont want one because its better for the environment, I want one because it's green and I refuse to use a nigger card in my all beige sleeper pc.
>>101196393>300-450W isn't a space heaterbro...if I run over 250 or so watts for more than a few minutes I can literally feel it
>>101199580Ask reddit.
>>101199500Oh, cool, one fact in a sea of rumors.You buncha troons are gossiping like you're fucking women, holy shit. Literally discussing nothing but lies and hopes.
>>101172192just play PC games at 1080/60 you mong
>>101199463>womp womp.go the fuck back, troon
>>101180704how much do you get paid, anon
>>101199695>You buncha troons are gossiping like you're fucking womenThanks for the compliment uwu
>>101199580Kill yourself.
>>101167814They won't let us have VRAM because they know we will use it for AI and if we want AI we have to be good goys and buy their 200k$ card
>>101170184why do you need nvidia then? go for a RX7800xt or the intel arc770, don't go for nvidia because you will pay the AI extra tax
>>101167814It's not, buy the ti variant for an extra $500 and you get a whole 10GB of VRAM.
>>101195789ipex (intel GPUs/NPUs) is better for SD than rocm anytime, like the arc770 rapes the rx7900gre on SD and for local models
If you still shit on Nvidia instead of Micron and the US gov, then you are wearing goy glasses.
>>101167713>budget card is shitYou get what you pay for.
>>101193686>>101193812That's not DLSS FG, that's literally FSR3 FG replacement for DLSS FG. Not the same thing.
>>101201631>1060 didn't existxx60 cards used to be good value, until they transformed their xx50 cards into xx60 and so on. then erased an entire line to increase the gap between xx80 and xx90
>>101172534One of these guys is a cuckold, the other one enjoy a decent gaming system.
>>101201647wrapper*
>>101201647And? I get hating on the FSR upscaler, but nowdays FSR 3 FG is on the level of DLSS3. I bet my ass it will be another freesync vs gsync where FSR 3 will become the default frame gen.
>>101202030>And?It's not DLSS FG, which uses hardware features. FSR3 FG works on any GPU. It's better in the sense it's multi-platform hardware wise, it's not actually better in terms of quality and performance, DLSS FG on a 4000 card will do much better than DLSS FG FSR3 mod. Similarly how DLSS upscaling is still better than FSR2/3 upscaling, even though FSR is GPU independent. If it's your only option, it's still better than nothing (if you can keep at leas 60+ as a base framerate without FSR3 FG enabled).
>>101202349Not using FG is literally always better than using it. It's such a dogshit tech its worse than nothing.
>>101202609>t. I enabled FG with 36 base FPS and it lags?? wtf shit tech
>>101199512I play in 4k with a 3060
>>101199580New jersey and actually the entire north east is fucking horrible
>>101168012And AMD will AGAIN not compete with the low end to mid in performance or price, because consumer GPUs are a cartel.
>>101167713>8GB
>>101191185The Elder Scrolls 6 might also be the game of the decade and well... it's Bethesda so you only need a GTX 1060 6GB top kek.
>>101204497>it's Bethesda so you only need a GTX 1060 6GB top kek.You mean like with Starfai... I mean Starfield? :^)>tfw 1060 can't even hold 30 fps
>>101204734Starfield is a piece of shit. Not even the modding community can save it. Skyrim was bad but they fixed the UI and added a lot of fixes. I'm sure they will have a UI fix and make it less ugly and run better and make the character models less ugly. But the core game is so bad that won't help. And the story is a knockoff of mass effect anyway.
>>101204880TES6 will use the same engine as Starfield, it will be a mess.
>>101204965At least gta6 will be good
>>101204965But starfield engine looks pretty good? It even has shorter loading screens than skyrim or fallout 4.
>>101205036I would rather wait for an xbox morrowind loading screen if it meant the game would be good than short loading for a soulless piece of shit
>>101187444very good anon, 970 to 3070Ti here
>>101205036Skyrim and FO4 load in like 2-3 sec.
>>101204734my sister played Hogwarts Legacy on a 1680 x 1050p monitor without any issue with my old GTX 1060 6GB.i'm sure it's also playable on 1080p>>101204965>muh engineTES5 had no real problems, the engine can do advanced physics (as in every object has a set weight, ragdoll, etc... objects can even collide with each other and NPC's) and all that in 2011.and it's easily moddable, plus TES5 had the best lore and game world, hence why it's still sold for the 100th time and played to this day.Starfield was a mess because it's a game nobody wanted, made with the money from a company that is shit (Microsoft) that values shareholders more than their products, and it probably didn't have enough dev time and they outsourced everything to India and Asia.also it has pre-generated content made from an algorithm, there's a limit to cutting costs loli'm not sure TES6 will be a good game but at least the story/lore is already well established so they can't fuck up that part.
>>101205547>TES5 had no real problemsniggy were you even alive in 2011?? it was a shitshow like most Bethesda shit at launch
>>101204880the main thing causing problems in Skyrim originally was being 32 bits (has been fixed without mods now, it was the main culprit for crashes when using mods), then the UI was crap (fixed by a mod) and then without the bug fixing mod you had a bunch of bugs here and there (almost all fixable by console commands appart from one or two where you had to use a "setstage" command to skip a quest goal), apart from that it was a good game, still a LOT better than the shitshow of Fallout 4 release days where the main quest was bugged and you couldn't advance AT ALL and when the "resurrect" command had been changed for no good reason.still a very good game in my opinion, that i keep coming back to, i even played Enderal the "mod" (game) that spawned from Skyrim.it has a soul other games don't have.
>>101168012Lmao that shitty RTX 5070 with just 12gb.C'mon, it should have at least 24gb of VRAM.
>>101205784a 2K GPU doesn't need 24GB, it needs 16GB.and i don't care about AI-tards.LHR GPU's fixed cryptonigs taking everything, soon we will have anti-AI GPU's to face this new menace.
>>101205547>i'm not sure TES6 will be a good gameIt won't be. For roughly the same reason as Starfield.
i've been stuck with the 1080 ti for so long i wanna upgrade but nothing utilizes pcie 5.0 yet other then fucking m.2s. i probably should have stuck with my x99 for another year.
>>101205916if you play video games you dont need anything better than a titan arc or equivalent.
>>101205916>a 2K GPU doesn't need 24GB, it needs 16GB.A ***2K*** GPU should be able to do 8k 120hz and for that it would absolutely NEED 24gb.
>>101207633imagine caring about that
>>101168650Literally going to run my 3070 until it dies at this point, I just still wish they didn't kneecap this card with the 8GB limit since there's been plenty of shit where it runs great, then just fucking dies and you're forced to reduce settings because of that.
>>101203064No, it is more like gayming GPUs are mature and stagnant market that is going undergo demand destruction via iGPUs becoming good enough for the masses. This is repulsive to shareholders. This is the main reason why Nvidia has spend over a decade to make gayming discrete GPU no longer be their bread and butter.
>>101183243Even with streaming CPU encoding is prefer if you have the threads to spare.
>>101167713>waste of sand!
>>101204994it'll be a niggerin mess as well
>>101199580>Wawa is a Jersey thingAnon they have Wawas along the entire east coast now
>>101205752The problem with skyrim is thr core gameplay and leveling system
>>101208489Florida is filled with niggers, jews, cubans, and rednecks. That is par for course and it's not shoed in. Nobody cares that the fast and the furious movies that started as being about criminals has a diverse cast. They care when you make characters diverse for no explicable reason. I hope I will be able to feed retired jewish princesses to aligators and bullsharks
oh shit i just bought a 4070 super should i have waited for the 5070 so the price go lower
>>101205547>i'm not sure TES6 will be a good game but at least the story/lore is already well established so they can't fuck up that part.Emil Pagliarulo can
Which is coming first, 5090 or 8900XTX?I NEED a new gpu, mine is literally dying on me
>>101209391You wait for the 5090
>>101209399What if I don't want a housefire or telemetry on my PC?
>>101209415if u have a cpu from intel or amd u already have a hardware backdoorall operating systems have telemetryall software has telemetrywebsites have telemetryur phone is filled with telemetry, everything u typed is stored and analyzed by some shitty a"i"they have uditch all technology if u want to get rid of it, no other choice
>>101209462>if uStopped reading, fucking kill yourself faggot
>>101209486owned, ure my bitch. dat truthpill a bit too hard to swallow for u? dw ull grow up eventually
>>101182889It literally just works. I use it daily. >>101193814Why?
>>101209356You should play games and just wait for the 7070 at this point
>>101209145more of a quick check man myself
>>101210163quickchek (sic) is just a less-depressing 7/11
>>101210163For me it's Sheetz but I'll settle for quiktrip
>>101210052seems to be the most proper way to approach this issue.i thought 5k will come with minimum 12gb up to 30+ gb for highend
