The development strength of our consciousness depends on the development environment.A paint box, for example, must have a certain standard color in its color palette so that any imaginable mixed color can be created.Or when a musician plays a piano, then 8 octaves are crucial so that the full sound spectrum can be used.And with operating systems, it is exactly the same for the programmer/developer. If we are locked out of the system, then we cannot write good programs.The programming language/compiler also comes into play.And in both cases, TempleOS is the world leader.For example: You can see everything in TempleOS(intern linked code),even the complete OPCODE list that is used.If you want to be a good programmer with fun, install TempleOS on a virtualsystem and start exploring, it's worth it.You will get into a world of programming, but a free world you have never felt before.
>>101340437is it worth making probably pci thing and adding suppport for ath9k wifi so i can use it on my thinkpad?would burn tos directly to flashi like the no security checks when context swapping, very fast
>>101340452So we were able to install TempleOS natively on the T60 Thinkpad. But the whole thing certainly doesn't have network support yet, as the only programmers who have done a network port are using Linux with a connection to a virtual system that runs TempleOS.So VM(TempleOS)->Linux->NETBut you have to find this solution with them.We program under TempleOS and every real programmer should be able to do that even without the internet.All it takes is your imagination and TempleOS.
>>101340437i remember someone being able to post on 4chan from the os, which means they got basic TCP networking working?
>>101340678Not exactly, if it is a derivative like TinkerOS or Shrine. Mostly those devs got no clue what there are doing and changing crucial things in the system, which makes it unstable.Forklifter, right?But atleast, they got all the girls.
Some of them blazed too much.
>>101340542>So we were able to install TempleOS natively on the T60 Thinkpadi know thats where i used it before, with directly to rom i meant like coreboot payload>We program under TempleOS and every real programmer should be able to do that even without the internet.Terry said that God did not ban networking, there is nothing wrong with ithe said to dual boot linux/windows and TOSif i wanted to use TOS as primary os i would need networking
>>101340920>if i wanted to use TOS as primary os i would need networkingIt is possible, but you have to port the networklayer by yourself or find some sources.But there is also another option, Networkshields.Those little networkadapters which you can use to transpert your data thru the networklayer, BUT those librarys to program those little bitches are terrible if not limited in their capabilities, such as simple http server functions. After digging further down the rabbit hole, we were banned from Microcontroller Forums.
>>101341006yes i know i would have to make it all myself, i was asking if it was worth itthe gpio pin ethernet looks autistic, im using thinkpad no way im fitting that in
>>101341033Pretty simple, the Pins on the top is for the COM-Port(RS-232).
>>101341033>i was asking if it was worth itActually, we are developing an own computer(ALU, TERMINAL,...) and want to port TempleOS to it.A self-functioning PC, like the Commodore64 was or AppleII but with TempleOS and probably one of the best processors in the world.
>>101340437frogfags get the rope.
>>101341125You see the following parts:KeyboardMonitor Green Monochrome 5040 PixelBinary - Decimal ConverterVideo BranchingHardcoded Symbol MemorySimple modified ADDER
>>101341061there are mods for thinkpad where you solder additional pcb onto the motherboard specific pinsyou can add stuff like additional 3.0 msata. usb, lvds screenlvds screen brightness control is done through invisible usb, commands are sent via hidthe problem is fitting another ethernet port into the case, too much work for something that should be simple>>101341125https://crafty.moe/pinkpad.htmhttps://wiphone.io/here is how i would design a computer if i made one, or atleast the outside and not internalsnow im wondering if it would be possible to make some simple wifi, something that doesnt require pcimaybe inspiration? https://pine64.org/devices/pinenut/also make sure to port coreboot (or make your own free bios that would be simpler) to your motherboard when you have one, that way you can have TOS flashed directly to rom, which was one of TAD demandsbooting will be instant
Only for 420$!
>>101341272btw i am suggesting wifi because i am used to a thinkpad, i dont use ethernet on my thinkpad just causei suppose ethernet for desktop computer but wifi would be my personal choiceheres more info about the pinenuthttps://pine64.org/documentation/PineCone/https://pine64.org/contests/nutcracker-challenge-blob-free-wifi-ble/
>>101341272The real meaning of our computer development only becomes clear when we use the new processor architecture (neural processor).We want to move away from the "old" processor architectures.On the one hand, because every chip manufacturer is influenced and therefore we cannot speak of a "pure" product.Even if we were to use our own architectures on FPGA.On the other hand, every processor is provided with illegal opcodes.We can only be sure of recognizing the full spectrum of a processor when we build it ourselves.
New processors speculate on OPCODES.Speculation is used to get the CPU faster.We are locked out by the opcodes emulationlayer.This is the end.
>>101340437is there an os that isn't built on C? a fully custom assembler would be interesting and fed proof
>>101341405terry wanted x86_64, dunno why havent watched his streams enough to understandmaybe he didnt want to bother with that>On the other hand, every processor is provided with illegal opcodes.nothing you can do about that, even if you design your own cpu you will be at mercy of the fabi suppose prototyping the cpu wont be issue but making it smol enough will be for home made stuff
>>101341499>a fully custom assemblerYou can write Assembler in HolyC Code simultany.
>>101341501>even if you design your own cpu you will be at mercy of the fabNo you wont, are you retarded? have you actually designed your own chips? Probably not, I have and the only risk you carry is chinks stealing your design not them inserting "le illegal opcodes" because such thing is not possible, you send them GDS files which are basically yuge bmp images>inb4 you're lyingnigger it costs 10K a pop to manufacture a 10mm2 chip at skywater @130nm and 2K @800nm on TSMC
>>101341501>i suppose prototyping the cpu wont be issue but making it smol enough will be for home made stuffIf we have a strong power supply, we can create a large prototype that can demonstrate its performance well. If we can then find investors, we can build our own silicon chip company.
>>101341564>not them inserting "le illegal opcodes" because such thing is not possibleyes it is possible but i guess its meaningless for chinks to backdoor random cpu>>101341570>If we can then find investors, we can build our own silicon chip company.probabledo you think intel/nvidia would try to intervene if you discovered something big?
>>101341691>do you think intel/nvidia would try to intervene if you discovered something big?Do we even want to work with these traitors?If so, we need sincere investors who believe in our vision.
>>101341740>Do we even want to work with these traitors?no and that was kind of my pointthey hold monopoly and would probably panic if someone wanted to break it upim not sure about state of alternative cpus, i believe there were some russian and chinese onesdid not follow what happend to themCRYOGENIC COOLING!
>>101341499>is there an os that isn't built on C?Tons, it isn't rare.
>>101341691>yes it is possible but i guess its meaningless for chinks to backdoor random cpuNo, its not. Again, do you know how chips are designed? You cant just insert logic at random without breaking the design most of the times. The only way they can do that is when you are using their own IP in which case you didnt really design shitTry looking at this mess and tell me you can genuinely understand let alone be able to insert anything at all without me telling you what kind of shit am manufacturing
>>101341764>CRYOGENIC COOLING!That's the point, pushing certain properties of an already invented system to the extreme, monstrous extent.But that has to come to an end and that's why new architectures are needed. Because only a new architecture will give us the new leap in speed.And this new architecture is based on the architecture of our biological cells. By adapting this "technology" we will be able to develop a neural "processor". This processor will consist of simple processor cells that are connected to one another in a neural network.We have already successfully applied this concept of cell architecture to a memory, so that a matrix is no longer needed to address memory. The memory counts itself and can be used dynamically, which makes it possible to simply plug modules onto one another to increase the memory. We call it S.AM. the self addressing memory.
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>>101341806never underestimate tailored access operations>>101341862>consist of simple processor cells that are connected to one another in a neural network.thats interesting, i recall hearing this idea before on /g/and infact seen in some movieshttps://neilrieck.net/links/cool_computer.html(see skynet cpu in the terminator banner)
>>101341919You got it!
>>101341919>consist of simple processor cells that are connected to one another in a neural networkThe point is, to simplify all the elemental operators in a architecture to a point, where you can add millions if not trillions of them together. 128 Cores? Beginners.
>>101341944i always knew there was something about that movie
>>101342020i am going to invest with my words,do everything wrong and beat them at their own gameyou can make it
>>101340437>8 octaves are crucialStandard piano range is a little over 7 octaves, and hardly any compositions use all of them.
>>101342127Thank you! It is worth more to us than all the money in the world.
>>101342171As a musician, you don't want to limit yourself, do you? You want to be able to use the whole range. That's why we've already been in contact with Yamaha and complained that they can't make proper pianos.
>>101342263The lower and upper notes on pianos already sound bad and are very rarely used. Adding more is useless for most pianists, and adds to the cost, weight and maintenance of the piano, butI don't know how this would translate to computers
>>101342371He's trolling you
>>101342371Because you/they cannot use the low and high tones properly.We use for example a M-AUDIO 88 Keyboard.
>>101342394That is okay, we are in the internet, our thoughts are free, sometimes.
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>>101343582i suspect we could have templeos generalthere are bsd, linux, winfag, haiku generalsmaybe could give birth to some "userspace" programswell i guess this is the thread
>>101343582le king has blessed us once more with his visithows the development of 4chan client is going?
Here is another project that is partially completed.It is a work environment with an "almost" infinite work space with coordinates.
>>101340437Nice post >If we are locked out of the system, then we cannot write good programs.Yes. Doesn't matter what code you run it's the OS that's running it so without manipulating that, pretty slim chances of innovation or actually learning to code.
>>101346996Thanks! From time to time we come here and preach TempleOS.But this thread is the first interesting one.>>101346967By the way, it is also possible to put objects in a circular queue and influence them using the Runge-Kutta difference equation (physics engine).The green objects push each other away.It is easy to use this mathematical differential equation in TempleOS.
The biggest problem for many of you today will be the C programming language, which you have to learn.But let us tell you that Bill Gates became the richest man in the world thanks to BASIC. And C is the logical consequence of BASIC.
>>101340784This is amazing.
>>101341272>make sure to port coreboot to your motherboard, that way you can have TOS flashed directly to romhas anyone tried to make templeOS run from coreboot romseabios has some feature that allows embedding 2,88MB floppy to firmware and boot from it. the "lite" (no apps) version of templeOS is ~2MB so it should fit
>>101349892i have not but i want to
>>101340784This has a really striking and unique style.
>>101349945first step would probably be making templeos bootable from floppy. i think it (or it's predecessors) never did that
>>101350153>>101349892>the "lite" (no apps) version of templeOSbtw i dont think this is neededyou just need the kernel on rom, filesystem would be on hard drive as normal
>>101349892>has anyone tried to make templeOS run from coreboot romIt would be the same as if you booted TempleOS from the CD. However, the system will not run without a hard drive.The difficult part is to tell the system the right I/O ports.There are instructions for the Thinkpad, however.:https://web.archive.org/web/20221129201539/http://www.levi.pink/t60temple.html
>>101352445>However, the system will not run without a hard drive.It will work, but without storage it is almost useless.By the way, format the partition with FAT16 before formatting it on Redsea, as there will be compatibility issues if the partition is not preformatted.
>>101340784CrunkLord420 is the #1 still living TempleOS gamedev in the world.
>>101352445>the system will not run without a hard driveTempleOS is literally a LIVE CD, it does not require a hard drive to "run"
>>101352445hello newfriend,>It would be the same as if you booted TempleOS from the CDlol noif it was on rom it would boot instantly, clearly you never tried linux payload on corebootalso booting off of rom directly was one of TAD demands
