Waifu stats editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference (basshead, female vocal, treble sensitive, etc.)>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio, Bloom Audio, MusicTeck, Elise Audio (UK)>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Kinera Celest Wyvern Abyss (mild V) - $30• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Kefine Delci (bassy neutral) - $75• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero (bright neutral) - $15• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10• RY4S mmcx (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• Moondrop Dawn Pro - $50• Tanchjim Space - $90• Tempotec Sonata BHD Pro - $90• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• Shanling M0 Pro - $130• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200• Tempotec V3 - $200Previous thread: >>101398657
Reject Waifus. Buy Etymotic.
>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Kinera Celest Wyvern Abyss (mild V) - $30• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Kefine Delci (bassy neutral) - $75• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90WHO made this
>>101419316Obsoleted by fox IEM.
>>101419337You will never feel the touch of an Etymodick in your earussy.
>>101419315>No. Water is wet. Water will never be wet.
>>101419203Some of the better sounding and comfortable TWS i own and the app is also decent, but they have occasional connection issues.
now i'm second guessing myself do i get simgot supermix 4 or tri i3 mk3
>>101419395I have never had a bluetooth device that has no connection issues other than qudelix. That's expected from twshit. Some are so bad that swinging a can of soda near my phone pocket interrupts the connection.
What are the best foam tips?
>>101419425oh I forgot to say that i'd have to get a new cable for the ir mk3 because my dac (rme adi-2 dac) doesn't have balanced output
>>101419425Meme driver vs meme driver, decisions.
>>101419439that doesn't help me
>>101419469>Both are good because you will like it bro jus trynna dem
>>101419469Hype 4 is right here.
focks on my iem
>>101419425They're not really comparable, classic simgot female vocal emphasis vs tri male vocals and mid bass. Are you a heterosexual? Lolicon perhaps?
Love the new wave of waifu phones.
>>101419266>graph on the boxWho cares, just EQ.>three sizes on the boxREAL SHIT.
>>101419516hype 4 is $400 these two that i'm comparing are $150ish
This is Moondrop's CEO testing & pairing each individual DUSK IEM. Pic was shared by crin.What software is he using? What equipment is this?PS: I asked this few threads ago. Got no answer... I'll keep trying until I do.
Sundara logs every iem
>>101419906It logs alright.
>>101419884didn't do a very good job
>>101419928do not warried friendmoondrop qc good
>>101419884This is anon asking this question in each individual thread.Pic was shared by me.What software is he using? Why does he do this?PS: I asked this few threads ago. Got no answer... I'll keep trying until I do.
this anon asking question in each thread...pic is share by me...the software??? u know?????PS: I ask thread ago, but get no answer. Plz help.
coomdrop
>>101420042>each individual thread.Oh yeah, find the post in the previous thead.
>>101420079uh...it came out :3
>>101419884Big thanks to anyone who tells us what it is.In the meantime, my cable parts arrived. The shit is so small, I'm pretty sure most wristwatch parts are bigger than this shit. If you drop it, you will never find these screws! Soldering this shit requires a super-fine tip and a microscope.
>>101420079That's a child.
>pick up my first pair of iems (truthear hexa)>been loving them>right iem starts sounding like a shitty base boost eq>troubleshooting didn't fix anythingIs it over for me bwos? Is it time for an upgrade?
>>101420613im sorry to beak this to you but...you just got TURDEAR'D :DDD
>>101420613Time to buy ER2SE
>>101420613lol. truthear has ass QA & QC, and sound quality. get fukt normie babby. hardcores know ball.
shitposting aside, get your refund. check the warranty and return that pos
>>101420613How long did they last? My first pair lasted exactly 1 year.
>>10142087875% of the development cost went into making sure turdear'd would happen right after 1 year warranty expiration.
>>101420613We told you it's moondrop, bro.
>>101420648They're still the best thing I've listened to, just a bit on the bright side (my only frame of reference is my shp9500 and air pods pro)>>101420878About 7 months >>101420784Yeah... I'm working on doing that now>>101420711My budget is 130$ so I'll add it to a list
Holy shit what's up with all the FUD in here. I used the shitty bullet pos that came with my phone for fucking years without any problems. My Hexas are only a few weeks old, but there's no way they won't last at least 5 years.
>>101421047>there's no way they won't last at least 5 yearslollmao
>>101420914It's as simple as using a solder on the BAs that corrodes with normal ear humidity in a certain time. Put a few percent bismuth in there or something.
What's the consensus on the diokos? Is there a better planar option around the same price?
Anyone ever use the iFi GO pod?https://ifi-audio.com/products/go-pod/
>>101421047>but there's no way they won't last at least 5 years.
>>101421120>consensus on the diokos?utter dogshit>better planar option around the same price?many. tinhifi dudu, letshuoer s08, artti t10, nicehck f1 pro, sale price shozy p20, etc.
>>101421124they will do what they say. do u want to pay $400 for it? the design of these kinds of products is pretty autistic and ick to use in public. just get a top-tier TWS which costs less than $200.
>>101421124I have a crazy plan for them but I'm not buying them for a full price.
>>101421198Saar may I suggest Airpoods Pro I made them myself so it is of best quality.
>>101421198This is weird that no BT earhook which would add ANC exists
>>101421263Not weird at all if you know how ANC works.
>>101421274What is the issue if pos is nothing but a passive transducer in this case?
what an abomination...
>>101421410The frequency response of the pos and the distance from the hook to the pos.
>yapping about chink IEMs all day to realize they are all shit
>>101421454my perfection of sonics > your piece of shit
>>101420079
velvet standard or wide bore
>>101421548wtf is this
>>101421632
>>101421632Coomdrop
>>101421639>#animegirl
>>101421623i prefer wider bore size, but sometimes it can alter fit. standards aren't even necessarily narrow, they are above average bore size. i'd stick with standard for more universal compatibility
damn, cadenza4 for $135 right now on aliexpress, might just redeem it
>>101421715meh, if you don't like bass, like sharper highs, and like the cream silver aesthetic it's not a terrible pick
>>101421047Chink pos tend to slowly die without a cause. One day you'll notice a slight channel imbalance and then poof you're in the market looking for another pos.
>>101421946>without a causeNo, you are just too ignorant / lazy to understand the causes.
>>101421419on YT there's some 70+ yo dude who fixes 100 yo radios and he wears little princess dresses.
dropped my gayte 3 inches vertically and there is already an imbalance, wtf
>>101420248https://archive.is/SwjQL
>>101422035shitoi'd!
>>101422035>he didnt get the superior welded coil structure unit known as edc proit was probably your coil that came undone, try giving that nozzle a blowjob.
>>101422064Don't refer to my girl like that again.
Why is normal ear humidity a problem for chi-fi? Is it putting the in ear monitors in your ears, not their intended usage?
>>101422198Mostly the cheap ones (nozzle filter) and metal ones (prone to condensation). Even cheap snoys use spongy foam in the nozzle for tuning, these are way more durable that the glued-on filters.
>>101422198it's more common with metal shells due to heat transfer and the nylon-ish filter they use to dampen the treble resonances loves to absorb it, this isn't an issue with foam stuffed in the nozzle as tuning such as ier-z1r/m9...
>>101422198the industry moves so fast that it's easy to imagine that long term durability (or hell, even short term durability since some pos can clog in like an hour of use from brand new) is simply not a concern for manufacturers regardless of the price point. if using a super dense cloth nozzle filter makes it graph and sound good, it's going to sale that way regardless of whether it can only be listened to for 3 hours max without needing to be dried out. i think it's a relatively new issue because before consumers were widely into judging audio equipment by fr graphs, iems that had that issue would have their designs changed, but now there's an incentive not to. i'd be curious to see whether chinese consumers also experience these issues widely considering that local humidity and earwax genetics influence it too.>>101422278>>101422288foam in the nozzle is kind of horrible too though just because it disintegrates over time and it's hard to find close replacement foam for some of those snoy models. i worry a lot about the future of my xba-n3. my longest-lasting iems have always had either very light filters (bright ass tuning), plastic shells, or both.
>>101421934sounds fine to me, ill just eq it later
>>101422305aliexpress sells a foam called 'sony import' that supposedly is pretty similar but i'd rather deal with that than have to stop listening to music bc one side is clogged/dead
>>101419266what the fuck is with the current HoF? all of them shit. none of them has better FR than Wanker
I've been using iems (sonys, etymotics, moondrop) for a long time but have always had discomfort. Like pressure in my ear that start upon getting a seal I guess? Tried slightly moving my iem to break the seal and let some air in, doesn't really work.Foam tips never quite fit me right but I've recently learned that a place near me does custom ear tips. Are these worth it? How do they feel, how do custom iems feel in general? Is it roughly the same as the silicone tips?
>>101423124Customs are simply different, no comparison to universals with tips. Customs are typically sealed, which means you will experience MORE pressure in your ear from seal, not less. Unless you get one with built-in venting system (swappable cylinders on the face of the IEM, see 64 Audio Apex system, Fat Freq NOAH modules, etc.), you will get some relief, but not any more than typical vented universal IEMs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhTQfPRCFBkVideo laying out some considerations. Main takeaways: Be sure you like the sound you are investing in, I advise demo'ing specific models. 3-D scan is more efficient than the the putty mold, so find a place that does scans.A few CIEM brands: 64 Audio, Ultimate Ears, Fir Audio, Fat Freq, Hisenior.
>>101423124Some universals with greater-than-average venting that I am aware of are Letshuoer D13 and Tanchjim Origin. Pair them with Tang Sancai or Divinus Velvet tips and that should alleviate pressure feeling. FYI D13 has nice discounted price on Aliexpress right now.
>>101423124I guess worth mentioning a few others which use "passive driver," systems which have multi-purpose of alleviating pressure build-up: Letshuoer models like DZ4 and S15, Simgot EA1000, Tansio Mirai TSMR X (10th Anniversary).
>>101423124also just read>custom ear tipsno, not worth it. chonky and just screw up the FR of your IEM even more
>>101423295>>101423286>>101423231>>101423218Thanks so much anons.I really don't want anothe pair of universals. Pretty much have my perfect pair with the Sony m9's. It's just such a bitch that there is always discomfort no matter what I try. Could be physiology, right? Never been to an audiologist, might be worth a trip.Or just sell the m9 and go headphones since neither the custom tips nor the custom iems would solve my problem.
>>101423380All (Me) btw. Snoy IEMs pretty much all fit like crap, so no wonder you have discomfort. But more seriously, you originally complained about the "pressure," which is more associated with venting. Seriously, try out the Letshuoer D13 from Aliexpress for the cheap sales price it's at right now. Combined with a pack of all-sizes Divinus Velvet tips, I think that will be as good as it gets for a final test of whether or not you can wear IEMs comfortably.
>>101423380>Could be physiology, right?Yeah pretty much. The sensation isn't unique to you, but each individual's level of disturbance from the feeling of IEM sealing ear canal is unique.
>>101423106stfu
>>101423106meh, if OP is reflecting the rentry, then it's just fotm posworks fine for the most part, just typical audiophool recommendations
>>101423615Will do, thanks.It wasn't all Snoy tho, etymotics are praised for comfort, moondrops too (don't remember the model, the silver one from around 4-5 years back). All three are different enough.So ciems would for sure be similar in terms of "feeling the vacuum", right? I've always thought there wouldn't be this sucking sensation that I associated with the silicone tips since the customs just kinda slot in the cavity.
>>101423754kind of a wacky suggestion but you might want to look into the audeze isine family of iems, they're basically insensitive to sealing conditions since the drivers are so huge. 1000% would strongly strongly strongly not recommend ever using without robust eq, though.
>>101423781They are open back though. Tried one of the first models. It was interesting but I prefer my planars over my head, not in my ears.
>>101423754>etymotics are praised for comfort, moondrops tooHonestly they're not bro lol. Etymotics are invading as hell, Moondrops are generic heavy metal. They're different, yes, but none are lightweight pseudocustom resin, which is generally regarded as the superior comfort build. >So ciems would for sure be similar in terms of "feeling the vacuum", right?Yes. Customs are fully molded to fill in your ears, there is more isolation. I previously mentioned the optional venting systems used for customs, which serve the purpose of counteracting some of the pressure build-up versus fully sealed customs. You will see singers sometimes pop out one set of in-ears for a variety of reasons: tech issue, wanting to hear outside noise, but also to temporarily alleviate themselves of the sealed pressure.
>>101423799Fair enough. Ok, I'll look into the Letshuoer ones then. Appreciate the patience.
>>101423824No problem senpai. Additional protips, some people just pop IEMs in and out, but there is a "proper" way.When inserting, open your mouth and nasal passages. This helps the Eustachian tube (connected from your ears to inner mouth) equalize pressure. For me, I prefer to have audio already playing at comfortable level, rather than inserting an IEM without the driver in motion. When removing, carefully break seal by either digging at the eartip and collapsing it or manipulating your outer ear to break the seal first before removal. You don't want the "plunger" effect sucking out your eardrums. Inserting & removing at an angle or with a twisting motion is also a small nuance.
Okay so apparently if you happen to have a chinkmi device then turning on the "high fidelity" option can almost eliminate the noise floor, and thus the hissing with highly sensitive foreskin.
was going to post my usual *ThighAutheo*but I saw the thread pic of that waifu and some generic IEM trying to sell you with the catch phase: Beyond space and time.yup, fuck these gay threads.i better BTFO now
>>101423667ok this actually looks better than wankers, but why its not even in the HoF then?
What's the meta for Singaporean hifi? I'm enjoying my Project M's and Zero Red's but I don't know if I should be expanding westwards.
>>101424626symphonium, nightjar, fat freq
>>101424615People here just have hate boner towards kz.
>>101424743>peopleonly crinigger and audio """"""""""influencers""" hate KZ.never forget picrel.
>>101424743>>101424848lurk some more before posting faggot
>>101419266RY4S 32Ω mmcx Plus (V-shape) - $10
>>101424743>>101424848stfu tyvan. 1) dogshit products for years only shilled because they are cheap enough for brownskins worldwide2) decent products get nerfed with stealth tuning AND driver revisions. no graph samples can ever be trusted, no impressions can ever be trusted, because the product you want to buy today is not the same as the one originally released3) beyond stealth revisions and driver nerfs, from the jump utterly faked driver configurations with inflated driver counts of non-functional components. having been caught red-handed, they still give zero fucks and continue to do so4) deplorable chink tactics and shill marketing surpassing the already terrible reputation for shady chinkesium products5) endless stream of redundant releases following one step forward two steps back / perpetual "almost perfect" product that keeps retarded consoomies on the hook6) the same basic bitch packaging for years, the same terrible cable that isn't soldered correctly 50% of the time and corrodes, the same terrible stock ear tips
Zero Red's are a good base for experimenting with Eq, i'm impressed, while i wait for my Xenns Top to arrive i Eq them to mimic the Top and sounds very great.My next purchase after the Top will be the Monarch MK3 i think, or i'll just be smart and settle with the top idk
additional 5% off hifigo goods (i think on amazon?)hifigofans05
https://x.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1813144047013535892
are the moondrop aria 2's any good? I was thinking about picking up a pair. I currently have the airpods pro how do they compare im tired of wireless shit.
>>101422198what website is this
>>101426343they're fine but at the same level of fine as even cheaper stuff. not the best wearing ergonomics, heavy generic metal. the nozzle will corrode easily. paint on the shells will probably bubble or chip over time.
>>101426353Filename.
Foam tips are so good, comfortable and isolate so much bros… i can't go back anymore
Is there a difference between a 15 euro IEM cable and a 1 euro IEM cable? I'd guess that the 15 euro cable would last longer but if there's no difference I'd just buy a bunch of 1 euro cables.As far as I can tell the only difference is that the more expensive cables are ''pure copper'', is it worth paying more for them?
>>101426862what would you recommend instead?budget £50-£90
>>101426312its funny how some audio people tend to put effort on taking good pictures of their audio stuff. Shows how they like their stuff just for the looks and not for their actual purpose
>>101427164Meanwhile Kojima shows us his gross dusty player with AAC 320 kbps playback
opinions on final audio type e ear tips? also is there any difference between the black ones and clear ones? I'm thinking of buying a pair to try out.
>>101424963>dogshityou're the only faggot here that loves using this word to describe kz's products. not surprised you put all that effort into one post. they are a powerhouse of a manufacturer with shameless chinks that just want to fuck with smaller brands. of course that comes with a price, anybody into manufacturing knows there is always a chance of discontinued or interrupted distribution of parts. as far as having non-functional components, this happens more often than you think with other companies as well, like the other anon that bought those shit ass hexas, it's only because of loud mouthed faggots like you that it seems like it's only kz that does it. >deplorable chink tactics crinacle gets his 15% cut from every collab he does. the same basic bitch packaging saves them, and ultimately us, a wad of money which is what they're going for. how do you let yourself walk around with such an empty-headed attitude?
What's with the KZ shilling here lately? Weren't you people hating them?Picrel is my pair of ZS10 Pro's that moggs all the pos here, even the killobucks ones, he's my strongest warrior who survived many falls
https://youtu.be/7ks2QTAIo6I?si=7Nx1aT54XydaoadQsomeone finally reviewed and graphed this illusive POS. it is just a single graph but it’s something.spoiler alert: basically looks like an upper mid shifted wan’er with less bass.similar to gate. and similar to chu 2 with less bass I guess
I'm about to redeem an Aful Performer 5 with Prime Day sales. Is this a bad idea?
>>101427295They are pretty good. The clear ones are basicly a slight upgrade with cleaner treble and vocals.If you want to try out the black ones for cheap you can buy the Final E 500 they come with a full 5 set in every size.
>>101427855They are great, especially for that price. Still some of the most comfortable IEM out there, really good tuning, cable and build quality.The only downside is that the nozzle doesn't have a lip, so some tips with a wider bore might slip off.
>>101427295I have the clears. They feel comfy and form a good seal, the barrel is soft enough to bend like spinfits so you can really get in there. IIRC they sell glow-in-the-dark eartips that come in a box of 5 pairs so you'll always find the perfect size.
>>101427463tldr: its shit>>101427295very good tips but somewhat dependent on nozzle length.
>>101427396>survived many falls >literal fucking hole plugged with silicone sealant
>>101427975It's battle scars, your pos could never…He still works and delivers angelical sound, no need to buy kilobuck iems
>>101428036The filter mesh has fallen out and the bathroom caulk fucked up shell resonance you twat, I expect nothing more from KZ users who are literally deaf.
>>101428036You realize your BAs are literally disconnected right?
Just buy a NiceHck Chinese girl and press play, simple as ccp. Simple as Slave Labor. Simple as over worked citizens. Simple as Slavery. Enjoy Music from underpaid workers.
>>101426312Hi oniichan.
>>101427395>Like the other anon that bought those shit ass hexasThere's a difference between someone buying a dud and KZ purposefully dampening drivers so only one contributes to the overall FR.
i need an earbud style tws. i can only keep iem's in my head for 1-3 hours a day with my tmj and i want something for on the go. do gen 1 or gen 3 airpods sound better? any better options exist?
>>101428534and which one is that? from 4 years ago? zs10? you're living in the past
>>101427900you should be using divinus velvet anyway
>>101428211That BA is meant to be right at the edge of the nozzle opening. But I agree that whatever he did is akin to defiling a corpse.
>>101428670From 2 years ago with the KZ CRN. That situation just turned 2 years old.
>>101428779are you retarded? it's been deboonked, apologies have been made by the claimer for misunderstanding the purpose of that driver. it does work but only to "flavor" the overall fr.
>Source: Trust me, Gweilo
>>101428890ask hifri, go ahead.
>>101428903I don't know these random micro e celebs, just link me something to read or you're a fat lying chink.
>>101428928im not going to spoonfeed you, newfag. go on Facebook and look up "hifri crn" its somewhere on there. thats as far as i will go.
>>101428957>I'm not going to prove my pointLmao, I accept your concession.
Gentlemen, how do we sell our mass produced chinese earphones to our male customerbase? Yes! We just slap some sexy anime girls on the packaging! This will make us rich! Long live capitalism! Long live innovation!
>>101428989bro how can the product be bad if it has an anime girl on the box? literally impossible.
>>101428686I actually have some velvets coming today so I should be good there.
>>101428817>it works, it's just 100 times quieter than the other driver, totally legit engineering>>101428989If a company is too stupid to do even that then it's too stupid to make something that sounds good. Sex sells, that's marketing 101.
>bought a Blue Vido>can't figure out how to put the soft pad things on itam i retarded? the hole is too small, how do you put this fucking thing in?
>>101429266I'm retarded as well and it takes me 5 minutes to put eartips on my pos.
>>101428989It is a fact that hentai iems are better.
>>101429697i ended up ripping up one of them by accidentfuck it, i'll use it without the pads
my kz ate i paid 10 aud for more than 8 years ago still works
>>101419266>106 poundsare you telling me I could lift an asian woman with 1 hand.
>>101421548>female poison earplugsi would like to know more
Just bought Tanchiorigin. Is there any good cable for it? The original looks like shit, for this price.
>>101430188Ergonomically, the cable is ideal and will be a major factor for fit stability.If you're worried about the cable handling and flexibility, you shouldn't.For replacement cables, look at xinhs/ivipq/yongse. Try finding a cable that has matching hardware for optimal aesthetics points.
>>101430401My only interest is getting something huge and visually pleasing. Something like Big White Cable.
>>101429806bro just fucking stretch it over them a little bituse the pads it makes them way more comfortable especially for longer sessions
>>101430478Depends on your preferences, but there's an ARTTI Clear A9 cable that is white, thick strands (2core so still relatively light), and also has swappable connectorsFor xinhs et al, you can request for modifications, and they have way too many cables to list them out.
>>101430541is hakugei le good? Also some reviewnigger said that nicehck cables are top tier.
>Budget€100 for balanced armature IEM>Intended use (media, source, environment)Audiobooks and jazz from phone while motorcycling on road.>Frequency response preference (basshead, female vocal, treble sensitive, etc.)Female vocal.>Past gear and your thoughts on themLast pair was Shure SE425 - fit for purpose, no complaints.I'm saving up for Ultimate Ears custom fit, just need something cheap with good quality foam tips and low profile driver housing.
>>101430579Haven't owned any, but they seem solid. xinhs/ivipq/zisin are essentially the same group of cable manufacturers, and yongse and hakugei are separate. Not too sure about their handlingNiceHCK cables are hit-or-miss. Some are great, others have horrible memory and handling. I have a few of them but not many I would use on my daily drivers.>>101431096Is there a necessity for balanced armatures? If so, something from Etymotic, like their ER3 series might do the trick. Aful MagicOne also seems to have a slim profile, though I'm not sure if it's enough.If BAs are not required, then something like the Kefine Delci is very small and will work for your context. Very slim and
Etymotic having limited time sales on official website. Cop your eardildos
>>101427079>I'd just buy a bunch of 1 euro cables>is it worth paying more for them?Depends what you want. More expensive cables fulfill desires for aesthetics and "premium" feeling. Cheap cables are functional.>>101428656>do gen 1 or gen 3 airpods sound better?Always get newest gen iToddler stuff.>any better options exist?If you have iPhone, no. Else, can look into cheaper Soundpeats, Soundcore stuff. I wouldn't say they're better, but more economical.
>>101424626Just buy the literal endgame among endgames Subtonic STORM and you'll have not only the best Singaporean IEM, but also the best IEM ever made in general.
>>101408710What are those? Are there still any good Etymotic clones available? I can only find Yu9 U556, but they aren't bullets.
>>101431453NTA but Yu9 Fish seems to be the model>Are there still any good Etymotic clones available?You'll find BA clones, and they measure essentially identically. For 1DD like their ER2 series, I don't think there's anything on the market that is similar.
>>101431514>You'll find BA clonesCan you drop some brand and/or model names? Even if they're older so I can research about it.
>>101431211Checked.>Kefine DelciI like the shape, but dynamic drivers limit the noise isolation.>EtymoticMK5 were my first, nearly 10 years ago. Excellent isolation and sound quality, but they can easily be moved by a helmet.>Aful MagicOneThese look ideal, but is a little extra isolation worth twice the price of the Delci?Thanks for the recommendations, good food for thought.
If this is Tanch then who's Jim?
>>101431591Jim transitioned to Tanch
>>101431591NEED THAT MOUSEPAD.
>>101427099kefine delci
Convince me not to get coomdrop golden ages
turns out my endgame is the ikko oh10 with a tiny bit of eq. feels good to be done
>>101431648>moonderpjej
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ_xpEANW4YIts over.
>>101431541Oh, if you're talking about other models than these clones, then I'm not too sure. I don't think there's anything that imitates Etymotic apart from those.>>101431587I think the MagicOne is the only BA IEM that is slim enough. There are a few other all BA IEMs but I'm not sure if they're unvented or not, and if they're slim enough. Not to mention that most of them aren't tuned great.
>>101431541KBEAR Neon
can temperature/humidity destroy my iems? i'm going to a hot and moist country for a few weeks and don't want to ruin my new toy.
>>101431754>actually decent curation (excluding his own pos collabs like singolo)not bad fatso
>>101431872yeah bro. take a beater
>>101431813Didn't know that one, thanks.
>>101431754Why would one buy anything from there if they do not even offer tax-included shipping options like Linsoul and Shenzhenaudio?
oh my dog supermix 4 for $120 on amazon
>>101432012to support le fat man
>>101428173>>101428211>>101428710Still sounds good tho, end game.Kz not only make state of the art iems but durable tanks, only god knows how much this thing went through in my hands.I can even say it sounds more energetic than before, but could be placebo
>3 tiny silicone tips: $16>3 t shirts: $7
>>101431591some chink in the company
As far as TWShit goes, how are the samsung buds fe?
First time here, guys. I was using headphones exclusively for years. From ATH-M50s, to ATH-700x's which broke, to X2H-Fidelios. The latter two were fine, but I have a large head and headphones are just uncomfortable.Bought Dunu Kimas about half a year ago as my first IEMs. I like them a lot. They're comfortable and convenient. But the sound quality isn't exactly up to snuff. Where can I upgrade from here? Do post-$100 IEMs really offer improved performance worth 3x or 4x the price?
>>101432548decent time to try one out, especially ordered from amazon. simgot supermix4, pula pa02, ziigaat doscinco, thieaudio hype 4 all have discounts right now. hifigofans05 gives additional 5% off pa02>Do post-$100 IEMs really offer improved performance worth 3x or 4x the price?tuning (frequency response) is a bigger factor in whether or not you like a product than price could ever tell.
>>101432516Decent if you own a Samsung phone so it can utilize the proprietary codec, but I'd still consider Nothing ear A unless you have a really good deal on the Samsungs.
>>101432516fine but the galaxy buds pro / pro2 are the favored models
>>101432548All of your headphones are quite frankly mediocre.>Where can I upgrade from here? Do post-$100 IEMs really offer improved performance worth 3x or 4x the price?If you want to put no effort into learning the hobby, then just get whatever looks cool based on reviews. If you want a better understanding, then learn how to read graphs. If you want to escape consumerism, then learn the theory and realize that very cheap (<$20) IEMs with EQ is endgame.
Thinking about picking up the Moondrop May DSC for the prime sale. >moondropped aside, is it any good?
>>101432817no
>>101432817Not really anything special, that's the issue. The DSP cable is arguably a negative, and the DSP app is barely functional; when it does work, the DSP implementation is so poorly thought out that it's almost pathetic.
I'm so in love with the ER2SE. They are so comfortable, especially when lying on the side, where over-ear pos get in the way. They isolate so well. And they really sound great, even without EQ.
>>101432877>especially when lying on the sideSo that's how you got brain damage.
might finally pull trigger on hype4
So how does the gate compare to the old holas? Different enough to be worth trying out?
>literally JUST traded in my galaxy buds 1 for 2's last week>3's announced days laterI fucking knew it.
>>101432589supermix4 and pa02 look like the best. which one has better QA?
There's literally nothing wrong with Bellsings.
>>101433032Nice b8> captcha: M0AR
>>101433014Supermix 4 for vocals forward bit less bass, PA02 for vocals neutral or recessed bit more bass, whichever of these phrases appeals to you. QC is pretty similar in chifi except Moondrop/Truthear are below average.
>>101432939Overall build is worse, tuning is like the Hola but tilted to be brighter. Probably not worth getting it.>>101433014SM4 should be better in terms of QC/QA. Pula PA02 might have been revised, we don't know.>>101433032>>101433058I have yet to see any proof of Bellsings being worse than Knowles/Sonion, except for headfi-level anecdotes. Pretty sure oratory said that the Bellsings perform at the same level.
>>101433032earlier iterations? yes, pure EEEEEEEElate iterations? most of that metallic timber is gone.
>>101433084>I have yet to see any proof of Bellsings being worse than Knowles/SonionAvoid BA pos.
>>101433109Sure, but that's not what we're talking about.
>>101433123Bellsing being merely as bad as other pos doesn't make it not bad.
>>101433074thanks, just going to keep my order on SM4 since I slightly prefer the vocals forward, had decent luck with simgot before, they're cheaper, and look slightly better IMO. From everything I could find they look to standout in their price brackets.
>>101432654Main thing that had me interested in the samsung is that I often switch between my phone and watch for working out and with non-samsung buds (at least with my current soundpeats) the only way to switch is disconnecting first then reconnecting on the other device, which gets really annoying after a while
>>101433187I see where the misunderstanding is coming from. What >>101433032 said, I took in the context of BAs only. You're also right, BAs are generally not great nowadays.
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>>101432217Prices aren't meant to make sense. Not here, not elsewhere.
>>101433254For that they need to support BT multipoint. Sometimes the manufacturer might implement a proprietary solution instead, but they don't tend to work as seamlessly as native support for this function.
>>101432993We all knew about the Galaxy Unpacked event a whole ass month ahead of time. You deserve worse!
> I bought the 7hz Zero 2, incredible sound for 20 eurodollars, > I've only had them for a few hours but I'm already in love, > I like them so much that I'm taking them on a trip as my only IEMs, > at one point I hear a bit of driver flex in the left earpiece, > fast forward 15 minutes and the left side is down to 5% volume MAX with no fix.Have I been Crinacle'd?
>>101434000CHONKED
>>101434000happy to hear u like earphoneplease leave positive comment thank u- chang
Ok, real talk. 1DD, no cloth filters, pseudo-custom shell, any budget, not completely retarded FR with -15dB canyons, what are my options.
>>101432589I'm honestly clueless when it comes to assessing the differences between them. Any time I look at some, every review says something completely different from the last.Is the only choice buying and returning until I find something that suits me? The Kimas seem to have poor separation and resolution isn't the greatest, in my experience with them. I still like them, though. I just want something that sounds good and it's all very overwhelming to someone who isn't into IEMs as a hobby.
>>101434092>-15dB canyonsIf you're talking about the dip in the treble, then it's not super accurate.>>101434112Learn FR graphs.>separation>resolutionNevermind, stick to reviews.
>>101434156Need to reiterate I'm simply not into audio as a hobby, but I still have ears discerning enough to know when something isn't right.
>>101434169Untrained listener moment.
>>101434112They're all good picks. PA02 and Doscinco will have more perceived bass quantity. Nothing obscene, but heftier boom and impart warmth to the midrange. Hype4 has more sub bass, less mid bass, and the upper frequency details are more pronounced, "cleaner, crystalline" sound. Supermix4 will have the relatively modest bass, similar upper emphasis as Hype4, perhaps at the expense of coming across too thin for some people. Don't wrack your brain too hard. Ordering from Amazon gives you decent return policy, and Chi-Fi sales happen multiple times a year. Choose one by what looks you prefer to wear / budget you want to stick to, trial it for a few weeks, determine if you like the sound, fit comfort, etc., go from there.
>>101434092Maybe twilight but the shell scares me a bit, would have to demo it.
>>101434252have definitely heard reports of that one clogging with moisture on head-fi. it's the moondrop oem.
>>101434092almost all iems have filters u dummy.ones that don't allow the moisture to kill the driver instead of the easily replaceable $0.10 part on the outside.jesus fucking christ u fucking idiots don't understand the concept of FILTERS. >block shit from going inside the more precious components>needs replacement because FILTERS get CLOGGED, IN ALL THEIR APPLICATIONS IN ALL TECH / MACHINERY
>>101434282Learn to read, nigger.>no CLOTH filters
>dude just don't put a filter on my car enginecool particles fly into your engine and kill it faster>dude just don't put a filter on my pc casecool enjoy even dustier innards>dude just don't put a filter on my A/Ccool a bunch of dirty dusty air is circulating>dude just don't put a filter on my IEMcool wax, sweat (water and minerals), pocket lint, dust is going to go inside and accumulate around the fine electrical components / sensitive surface of the driver diaphragmTake any IEMGet the Simgot tuning kit and medium density "Sony" tuning foamsReplace whatever filter you have a phobia of with foam or other mesh filters??????PROFIT AND SHUT THE FUCK UP THINKING A CLOGGED FILTER IS THE END OF THE WORLD. IT'S A FUCKING TINY REPLACEABLE ELEMENT EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO YOU.
>Crinacle opens shop>Products are at least 20% more expensive than other well established shops>Says he is the one paying the freightSure thing, Changchong
>>101434169>but I still have ears discerning enough to know when something isn't right.We get it, stick to reviews.
>>101434353The extra 20% is for food.
>>101434295they are using foam in the nozzle instead of cloth filter retard
>>101434466See >>101434295I never said the IEM should have no filter at all..
>>101434092Sennheiser IE900
>>101434092Wyvern abyss?
>>101434546pretty sure it has a filter under the metal screen
>>101434498so why are you whining dumbfuck
>>101434569You can't read.
>>101434586Even Biden's sentences are more coherent than yours
>>101434622You failed to understand 3 words and shat out a pointless wall of text because of that. Learn to read before replying to me again.
>>101434565Nothing on the exploded view. Could be just marketing bs though.
>>101434092There always is a cloth filter inside chink 1DD iems, that's how their tech works.
>>101434685Doesn't have to be chink. The shells on non-chink IEMs are extremely retarded though.
>>101434092Finding a 1DD in a pseudo-custom shell is already hard enough. Why do you want it to have no cloth filter?
>>101434685the filters can be made of a lot of different kinds of cloth, i figure what he's really trying to ask for is ones that have filters that aren't made of that super heavy black silk stuff that moondrop uses.
>>101434092>>101434282fd15 has no filter basically. non-offensive treble and and can be eq'd to greatness.
>>101435029graph of pos
what iem has the most anime girl shit in iti got the zero red but it's only like the outer part of the box and nothing more i was expecting some porn of the girl or some art or something somewhere idk
>>101435120seeaudio rinko
>>101435120The nekocake collabs tend to crank the weebiness pretty high
>>101435152>>101435314are they goodi've been thinking of getting one under 100 read the simgot one in OP is super fucking shilled tho idk if i like brightness on in ears.also no anime girl
>>101434000such thing never happened to me and never willskill issue.
>>101435496Redeem Tanchjim 4U (included Asano Tanch stickers)
>>101435496you can try eqing your zero red to different signatures to preview them before buying (or just to subjectively improve the sound you get from your zero red and not buy anything). fwiw i think most audio noobs will like brighter-tuned things, it gives you that "wow i never heard that instrument in the background before!" effect
>>101435496rinko is v-shape slop. u asked for anime, it has squished tits on the box.
I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but 80dB on IEMs is much louder than 80dB on speakers. Maybe this is why they need some loudness compensation baked into the target to sound correct.
how would you eq 14k peak of gate? i thought it was just a measurement artifact but it's clearly audible doing sweeps. -8db q5 sounds ok but doesn't seem right on paper.
>>101436097inear monitors bypasses HRTF, Desktop monitors dont
>>101436182>but doesn't seem right on paperWhy. The couplers are officially rated only up to 10k and non-deaf people know they're wrong above 6k. On paper you should be EQing from the response at your eardrum but in practice it's not possible.
>>101436097Describe how you measured loudness for both systems>>101436182That sounds reasonable. Curious how you got to that gain value.>>101436184What's the reasoning behind this? It's true but the link to the statement isn't clear.
>>101436182just hit play nigga, couplers are shit after 8k. changing tips will do more for that.
>>101436223>in practice it's not possiblequite doable if you can mentally measure and visualize the pos by ear
Oh shit noticed this in my saved items.
>>101436182I use pink noise and reduce until I no longer hear a whistling noise in that region.
is there anywhere to download hi-res pink noise? i dont want youtube crap
>>101436242>whats the reasoning behind this? Honest-to-god flat or neutral sonics doesn't exist. Because our very auditory system will elevate a certain range of frequencies and simultaneously dampen the other. And this case of function is unique to literally every person out there, including you. For the same reason blasting "flat" waves inside your ear canal does not equate to 'neutral' sonics coming from a desktop speaker. Remember that sound gets colored by default before it even reaches your eardrums. And thus the disparity in decibels between both of them.
>>101436548I doubt the difference in response at DRP is responsible for what seems to be an obvious difference in loudness. I'd understand if they framed it as a difference in tone color, but the way they said it makes it seem like the difference is very very large, which I doubt would be due to HRTF bypassing.
>>101436516https://www.audiocheck.net/testtones_pinknoise.php
>>101429266i had the same issue, i eventually took them off because they made them a bit too big to stay in my earsi figure if i get earwax in it and fuck it i can just buy another pair
>>101436420thats a good price
I feel like the apple dongle plugged in to a pc via usb adapter sounds loud as shit, much louder than on a phone
>>101437121yeah bro it's exactly twice the voltage on pc, everyone knows that. on some android phones, you can enable the double (actually normal) voltage output.
Has anyone heard the Subtonic Storm before?am considering of buying that next.
>>101437121Loud volume is like a drug. That's why I got a desktop dac/amp instead of a puny dongle. Now I can damage my hearing at the volume I want.
>>101437327yes. overhyped dogshit. hear it for yourself at canjam after i fuck your bussy faggot
Got $300 to spend on earbuds, what should I buy? Will primarily be using them for listening to music and videos to focus on work and assignments, so nothing too audiophilic. I have a brand of wireless Sony headphones that I like, but other than that, my past experience has been mostly wired earbuds, specifically the Samsung AKG earbuds that came packaged with older Samsung phones
>>101437420Eh, just preorder the new Galaxy Buds3 Pro. They look really promising.
why was the performance so aful?
it's the recessed upper midrange meme, i have no idea why normies like that. homosexuals?
>>101437420If you want wireless do what that other anon said and either preorder Buds 3 Pro or buy the 2 Pro.They sound great but I dropped mine once and they died so nowadays I stick to wired. In case of wired, Chu 2 should be enough, you really don't have to spend all $300 for this.
>>101419266thoughts on chu2?when i researched on it, people that live in high humid areas(like asia) said that it has a condensation problem where water (and possibly their earwax) build up to the filters causing imbalance, how bad is this? i also just got mine and i live in a high humid area, i feel like thats a waste if mine ends up like theirs. Unless the people that complain are shut-ins and never open their door or window so when they jack off to hardcore gay porn, they make the room very humid from their sweat/body heat. Or theyre literal animals that dont clean their ears or iem with a qtip
>>101431514recently i lost my virginity with this dildo and very satisfying nowbut this 2pin (qdc) cable seems hard to find that compares to ety mmcx
>>101438741it's a huge problem where it can clog in under 15 minutes for some people, and your gold nozzle will also tarnish into black/green, and the paint will chip and bubble over time. enjoy getting moon... dropped!
>>101438762qdc is common bruh wat u meanbtw is that stock included cable? pretty nice
>>101438771damn, that is unfortunate lol, some people's ears are like vaginas huh, it self-lubricates, is it like an asian thing? my earwax are also liquid but when i was younger is was dry-solid-ish
>>101438796no actually you are the one who is fucked dumb cocky gweilo
>>101438809i dunno what gweilo means but thanks for the info autistic anon, i'll get salnotes zero 2 when it goes on sale
>>101438776yeah it's a stock cablesorry i mean this connetors are angled but no ear-guide shrinked tube like typical qdc cables
>>101438844just xacto knife the hooks off cables that have it
>>101438849i thought that have to disassemble those connectors for removing dumb tubesi'll try it thanks!
>>101438843see>>101434000stupid laowai
>>101438930wtff? welp i guess i'll go with trn conch then, please tell me this one has no issues lol
btw why do iem reviewers on youtube say shit like "this has a coldness of a rotting carcass, with a hint of a warm, smelly fart of a young lady" wtf do those even mean?
hello fellasAre there any good dacs with ttrs mic pass through? For taking the occasional call and meeting on the pc
>>101432516actually pretty nice, they're not throwaway shit since you can replace batteries without soldering and extend their life potentially indefinitely this way, they also have fins that do an excellent job at preventing them from falling out from earsas for the sound, it's not nearly as good as the best-tuned pos even from much lower price ranges, but this is true for most if not all twshit, besides even if Buds 2 (for me they do) or Buds 2 Pro (for me they don't) sound better than the FE, you can't replace their batteries without soldering, which automatically makes their qualities null and void and puts them in much lower tier
>>101439509What do you mean by pass through. You want mic out from your DAC to an external ADC? What? If you simply mean mic support then apple dongle supports mics.
>>101419266best iems under 150, prefer neutral freq, favorite headphones were the k712 pro,
>>101440102nicehck f1 pro
>>101439813yeah mic "support" from a single ttrs 3.5mm jackI was asking more for a desktop type amp+dac combo since im at a desktop
>>101440257Why is she pointing a gun at me?
>>101440535PROTECT YO SHIT, FOO!
more drivers = better?
>>101440741More drivers = worse.
>>101419266>soulful
>>101440854S O V L F V L L
might be the new My First IEM rec at $8.
>>101441658If you want someone to wonder why it sounds nothing like the graph and never buy IEMs again, sure.
