Had to bake editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference (basshead, female vocal, treble sensitive, etc.)>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio, Bloom Audio, MusicTeck, Elise Audio (UK)>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Kinera Celest Wyvern Abyss (mild V) - $30• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Kefine Delci (bassy neutral) - $75• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero (bright neutral) - $15• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10• RY4S mmcx (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• Moondrop Dawn Pro - $50• Tanchjim Space - $90• Tempotec Sonata BHD Pro - $90• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• Shanling M0 Pro - $130• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200• Tempotec V3 - $200Previous thread: >>101419266
>>101442644He quit reviewing 2 years ago.
>plug active speakers into high end dac>it sounds betterAm I falling down the rabbit hole?
ear dildo troon threead
>>101442968active speakers could have some kind of low quality amplification noise interference or dac issues so it might not be entirely placebo.no one is saying you shouldn’t have a good dac. The claim is that past apple dongle tier there really isn’t that much of a perceptible difference if at all, at some point it becomes pointless to chase metrics
>>101442968You can't tell the difference between DACs on speakers.
>>101438776that cable while very comfy, turns green after a month. better go with black>>101431453no good direct clones except the yu9 stick model this anon >>101438776 has, u556 is more of a spin on ety sound. idk about neon but wide nozzles are plain horrible design for an iem that needs deep insertion.
>>101442889RY4S 32Ω mmcx Plus (V-shape) - $10
>>101443031Yeah I had some shittass fake apple dongle (windows detects as UC2 or some shit like that) so I guess it was needed
>solves sound with 1 planar driveryeah, I’m thinking keyed
Redpill me on the best PMP, money is not an issueis it between tempotec and hidisz and HiBy??I want a music player for when I go running or when I trip on shrooms so no notifications wanted
>>101442932fpbp/thread
>>101442932Now everyone is going to covet getting onto cringeacle’s store lmao.Hope you appeal to fat man’s tastes Chang!Normally I’d say this is a bad thing except everyone else besides him for some reason is absolutely deaf and I wouldn’t mind the heaps of dogshit getting #filtered
after months trying to eq and never getting the sound I want, I officially give up on eq. Its easier to accept the original sound than to waste time trying to eq it and. Time I could be using to focus entirely on the songs
>>101443407You have to be smart about it, and the retards auto eq-ing to a target aren't that.It's hard to find the perfect blend of techs and tuning. So make small adjustments to suit yourself.-give an iem the harman midbass scoop Q=0.6, or remove it-turn the bass down or up 2dB, low shelf-turn 5K Q=1 up or down according to mids preferenceThis suits your preference without trying to change the whole personality of the model.
>>101443407Have you ever tried to use sine sweep tool for EQ like SineGen?
>>101443407Of course peaks exist especially with IEMs which form a closed pipe system with resonances at the fundamental, 2nd harmonics etc depending on your ear canal length etc. A peak at 12 is common with IEMs and needs to be reduced just like the peak at your main resonance which can vary between 5-9khz, if you don’t tame these and think your IEM sounds fine out of the box you simply have no clue. Every ear canal needs proper EQ adjustment for any IEM, because the final perceived response will vary between every ear. People need to finally understand this that without individual adjustment towards your own ear canal no single IEM will sound even half decent, not even talking about the effects of the pinnae which will additionally contribute to the sound and if it’s perceived natural to you or not, but as the brain is quite forgiving it will “burn in” after a while to any provided shit response, it’s not that headphone or IEM that breaks in but in reality your brain, just listening to a crappy response for longer and then switching to neutral speakers will suddenly make these sound off…
>>101443407I only use low- and highshelf filters to change the sound, and they are easy to use. Peaking filters are good for EQing resonance peaks, but imo not so much to change the sound sign
If you won't use sine sweep to find resonances and won't use peaking filters to fix them you will never fix "techs". You can't find all the unevennesses just by listening to pink noise.
>>101442889Best IEMs under 200 for neutrality. I'd also like to sleep in them and I do sleep on my side sometimes. My favorite headphones were my k712pros.
>>101443126>when I go runningI would stick to the smallest ones. Shanling M1s / M0 pro, Hidizs AP80 Pro-X. The Hidizs has lower battery life <5 hours. If you're fine with bigger then HiBy, they have several sub-$300.
>>10144340799% of pos would considerably benefit from EQ, but I genuinely didnt feel like any EQ was needed on Varis or Xenns top. Nova is a close call but they overdid with the bass tuck.
>>101443407Trying to small band EQ is more or less a meme unless you understand the resonances in your ear inside and out. Also they shift slightly with insertion depth too which can chang depending on tips or just how you put them in on a particular day/whatever.EQ at 3khz and below is somewhat simple. 6khz and above is when things can start getting a little weird.I mean it’s probable that if you AutoEQ to a mega5est it’ll probably sound close but it’ll never actually be the same due to microphone inaccuracies, shell shape, phase/impedance, etc. blah blah blah.
>>101444032just wait for quarks 2 POS will probably be some generic flavor of neutral, comfy and Good Enough(tm)
>>101444721Is there anything close to what I want available now?
>>101444032Zetian Wu HBB Heyday or Airpods/Earpods unironically
>>101443090what about them
>>101444725gate is p good I like it for ultra budget tier. Also pretty neutral, dynamic. It’s over ear though.Zero red is a good choice if you can tolerate the fit, once again over earmost options are over ear for more secure fit.not many great neutral budget POS. Quarks OG fills this role but not too detailed.
Thoughts on electrostatic? Is it a meme like planar and why is it mostly on audiofool tier pos?
>>101445028electrostats have incredible distortion metrics but are an absolute b word to tune. That’s their main appeal and why memophiles orgasm at the mention of them because they think they can hear up to 200db of dynamic range at 40khz and THD past .1%…but of course zero auditory masking because of bad frequency response, that doesn’t existthe cheapest IEM dynamic drivers already have incredible distortion and phase measurements essentially making electrostats in the IEM range more or less useless. Also electrostats degrade over time. Granted it takes multiple decades but still. Also they’re flipping impossible to power, the little ones at least don’t need their own energizer(I shit you not e-stat headPOS needs its own amp system)planars are generally ok they aren’t as fickle as e-stats
>>101445196Kitten, you're not gonna get banned for saying bitch. Not on my watch
any resin semi-custom molded iems like kinera abyss?
>>101445028>why is it mostly on audiofool tier pos?If you mean the Sonion ESTs in IEMs, because the drivers cost >$50 per dual unit, exponentially more than what most BAs or DDs cost ($1-$20).
>>101445196Do not confuse electrets with estats and do not confuse headpos drivers with IEM drivers. Electrets lose charge, estats get charge from the amp, that's why they need a special amp in the first place. There're like 4 real estat IEMs, from shure and from stax. Now the distortion. This is where you need to separate IEM drivers from headpos drivers. Even the cheapest IEM DDs btfo all other driver types. But DD headphones are trash. Estat headphones perform well until they hard hit their excursion limit, which is even lower than on famously clipping fecal drivers. Unsuitable for real music.
>>101442889ok iembros, i get it now, why people have clogged filtersi researched it a bit because people are complaining about it on chu ii, turns out it can happen to all iem'si went to youtube and search how to maintain iem's, basically cleaning it right? and my suspiscions were correct, some retards are just not doing basic maintenance to their iem and dont clean their fucking earsbut to their defense, i dont think the manual says anything about how to clean it, how to store it, and why you should keep it away from moisture
>>101445447the worst part is that i didnt realize that the budget space/market in iem is full of drooling retards with 2 digit iq, so in a way, i am also a retard
>>101445447The issue is there's no visual indication that the filter clogged from moisture. There won't be any earwax or shit like that but the IEM just won't play. And then it'll magically start playing again after a few days. But each time it'll clog faster and faster. Replacing it is the only solution.
>>101445369lots. cklvx d41 / pula pa02, aful explorer, aful p5, kiwi ears quintet, mangird tea2, thieaudio hype4, etc.
>>101445369g10/q1 pro
god I hate it so much wait for months for some chink shit damn
>>101445508>aful explorer doesn't have a nozzle lipcame so fucking close on pulling the trigger
>>101445502ah i see, thats kinda interesting, maybe i just got lucky with my first iem, maybe chu ii(my second iem) will be the first one that will clog on me
imagine naming your company "awful"
>>101445447I literally had my chu and wan’er for over a year and they both worked fine until I gave them away.apparently westoid manufacturers package cleaning kits with their IEMs though which is cool. also peobably because they break so damn often
lads. did i make a mistake?
>>101445778bro it's like 2000 rubles
>>101445778I see 3 mistakes.
>>101445602It's aful. Not everyone pronounces every word like it's an english word.And ironically they have never made a bad IEM, despite how much these threads will find dumb meme or buzzword reasons
Wanker Studio has one of the worst stock cables i have ever seen.
>>101445974memes aside they actually did tune a 1 BA POS shockingly well. I can’t be the only one to think how they well would do with a DD or planar.They should get off the meme BA cruise and actually try their hand at some real crap
>>101444198thanks, will go for the smaller ones with longer battery life
>>101445778oh my fucking god pahjeet CLEAN YOUR KEYBOARD WHAT THE FUCK
Wtf are those prices on crinacle store? I can't see why someone would buy from him, there are some iems there costing 100$ more than other stores
>>101445778the mistake of never cleaning your keyboard
>>101446250Singapoor dolla lah
>>101445778yes and you're a disgusting slob.
>>101446367You're right nevermind
NW-A306 - sneed it or keep it??
>>101446711weak output power disproportionate to price
>>101446711If JP version then keep because its a bangerIf no then why did you buy it in the first place
I love the feeling of a cool metal shell nestled snugly in my earussy. Plastic pos owners don't know what they're missing.
>>101447059Based dew point inside the shell enjoyer
>>101445442>Do not confuse electrets with estatselectret is a type of estatbut yeah, full-range estats are a world of their own
>>101447059I don't miss anything because I don't feel my IEMs at all. My comfort is bottlenecked by the cable now.
>>101445778>Zero 2not a mistake, enjoy your good pos>some twshitalways a mistake>HHKBjesus fucking christ
>>101445447I never had these clogging issues with shure and Westone stuff back then.Chink shit is just chink shit
>>101445778Zero 2 are good if they fit your ears. Lots of people complain about their shell shape.
>>101447059Metal pos (and everything in general) feel more premium or better than plastic ones, but you'll soon realize cheap light plastic is actually the better material for pos.
>>101447354Fully filled resin is okay, cheap plastic sucks ass.
QUICK, RECC A POS THAT MATCHES THIS CABLE
>>101447519
>>101447519whizzer he01
>>101443034Ok now put my shitty Dell monitor in the sample group.
Bros what IEM do I buy if I want1. Planar2. Great resolution and detail3. Bassy neutralish sound without any earrape peaks over 6k
>>101447818most definitively not s12
So I wanted to splurge on a Fiio M11 Plus when i realized I can just put my samshit phone in aeroplane mode and it still drives my DT 770 pro 80 Ohm good enough
>>101447818>driver memes>auditory illusions>advice for response above 5khzfuckin kek
I'm new to audio equipment. How can IEMs sound better than traditional headphones? Since headphones are bigger I assumed it filled with chips and crap in there to make it sound better, but how can a candy sized earpiece compete?I don't get it.
>budgetiem Under $500 (second hand is fine)>intended useMainly EDM, technical bass heavy high energy Japanese rhythm game type music. Gaming, good imaging would be appreciated but don't want to sacrifice for that.>Frequency response V-shaped, or at least some bass emphasis and slight treble boost, tight bass.>past gearheadphones beyerdynamic Tygr 300r(basically semi open dt990) and dt770. Favorite iem I've used is the raptgo hook X.
>>101448090>How can IEMs sound better than traditional headphones?There are tradeoffs in both systems. One isn't better than the other for most people, but for those that are in way too deep, IEMs have more "potential".>Since headphones are bigger I assumed it filled with chips and crap in there to make it sound better, but how can a candy sized earpiece compete?If we're talking about "active" IEMs vs headphones, then again it depends. IEMs will generally have much better response just because of how consistent they can get it to be.Nowadays, using active systems to make IEMs sound better than headphones is relatively easy. The hard part comes with fitting every component in a very small package.>>101448102Look at the OP and reviews, you'll have a much better time than having to deal with smartasses and retards here.
>>101448135I have no idea what active means in this case, or what it means to have better response.Looks like this is a rabbit hole I need to jump in at another time. Work is too busy for me at the moment.If you got a place that explains everything that would be helpful because I cannot understand all this jargon.
>>101448188No problem, active here means something that has electronic components that usually modify the IEM in various ways (eg ANC). Response refers to frequency response, which is essentially a way to characterize how something sounds.There's a lot of stuff, and a lot of bs, so sifting through everything is incredibly difficult, and it's hard to recommend a resource when most of them are either too basic, or too technical to actually be useful.The rentry guide in the OP seems to have a few decent resources at the end. There's also an anon making what seemed like a very in-depth guide on fixing the response of IEMs with EQ, although I'm pretty sure he's given up or something
>>101448076100% you have an eq'd 20$ pos lmao
>>101448242i have like 20 pos and yes, id be happy with any of them with eq
EQNON FREE US FROM SAMSARADELIVER US TO NIRVANA
>>101447519>POS THAT MATCHES THIS CABLEBased fellow retard. Mine is on JQ 4U Pro. Would probably match OK with EA1000.>>101447818>PlanarTinhifi P1 MAX II, Tinhifi Dudu, or Letshuoer S08.>>101448102>Under $500Descending price: Mangird Top, Thieaudio Hype 4, Yanyin Canon II, Kiwi Ears Quintet, Celest Phoenixcall, Simgot Supermix 4.Hype 4 good discount on Amazon right now. Others have some discounts too, check Aliexpress and Linsoul
>>101442889Ok Simgot poorfags, if you want to try Simgot:Dusk then plug this into your EQ.
>>101448561>eq'd to analog duskbro.....
>>101448638It's the Dusk that should be EQ'd to the Simgot.
>>101448650IMO your eq is good, those simgot mids are a bit too recessed
>>101448774Dusk sounds stuffy to my ears. Too used to Revel speakers. I need Harman.
>>101444032based k712 chad
>>101448836Maybe try Hype 4, my fave target curve for now
I thought IEMs are supposed to be cheaper than headphones. How come these things costs like $500?
>>101448995Honestly at that point just get speakers. The physical bass impact and separation you get from speakers at even 300 bucks is better than any headpos.
>>101448995iems range from $1.99-$8,000. pick w/e you want. same goes for headphones. options exist at all prices. what you want / what is good is an entirely different discussion divorced from price tag
>>101448411Thoughts on the Artti T10?
>>101449079fine too. cheapest feeling shell
>>101442889>picMusic goes well with coffee, but brewing it into the coffee will not work.
Can someone do a noteworthy release post? Feeling too lazy
I am buying a Subtonic Storm and quitting this endless consumerism.
>quitting consumerism>buying the pinnacle of gluttonous consumerismmake it make sense
joyce?
>>101449502Ok but do the extremeties of your iems even extend, extremely?
>>101449546The stupid marketing terms made me write off Symphonium Audio as a snake oil company (audiophiles love it). I just feel intellectually insulted. Thieaudio is a serious business.
>>101442968will this pic hack me if i save it
Sony daps y\n?
Got a coupon from Linsoul, Klanar or Delci?
>>101450195op put delci in the recs and it's quite the fotm. i think op is pretty smart so you might as well see what the fuss is about.
>>101449079Its fine but being tbe cheapest option in the family, some corners had to be cut Besides already mentioned shell, the accessories and I think even the driver magnets are less fancy so the sensitivity is just 96 db/mw
good?
>>101450667if u like feeling the heat of 1000 suns burning into the top of your skull and mid af sound that is extraordinarily difficult to drive with a cheap plastic build then sure
>>101445695really? thats sounds kinda neat, i wish chinc iem ship with them too, besides giving away iem cases with the more expensive ones, also waner at least gives you a cleaning cloth with the waifu printed on it
>>101450704what are the best headphones under $500?Also, is it better to buy a a soundbar with dolby atmos or buy a home theater 5.1?
>>101450899>headposidk man prob some DCA or audeze>speakerssoundbars are all crap but if u want the simple setup and clean look that is slightly better than just TV speakers then it's fine5.1 is obviously superior, but requires more hardware, wiring, and proper positioning
Any metal listeners here? I would like to know what metal songs you guys use to test new iem's after you buy a pair.I personally use Terrasite from Cattle decapitation, the production quality is just *chef's kiss* you can hear every detail. I also Try Shadow of Intent's "Melancholy" album.I would like to have more options though.
>>101450988https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv967lbCrscthis is now a metal recommendation thread
i never got metal. closest i got was liking hardcore / thrash / crust punk stuff as a kid. death metal and such never vibed with me
andy likes metal and sometimes brings up the bands / songs he listens tohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqQ6hFH0qTofunny enough in this just uploaded vid features samples which is a new thing he's doing
>>101451017Its okay anon, death metal is honestly hard to get into, myself included it took me a bit. it really depends on your mood too, more than the other metal sub-genres. most of the time I just listen to metalcore since its more chill. (and prog metalcore like ERRA, Monuments, spiritbox, Tesseract, etc..)>>101451024>>101451009cheers anons, ill check them out
>>101449472please consider the following:*ThighAutheo Prestige LTD*
>>101450966these?
>>101451024Andy audio vault is the goat (real nigga shit)
what's the most muddy, dark, veiled pos in the world?
>>101451531HBB Hades
>>101450988Not my favorite genre, I can only recommend first fragment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ_jhLl-_hE&list=PLe3UPCHpSqZmUwN5TMynQVhkoV_VElNNt
Cant wait to listen to 2 new albums later next day after tomorrow
>>101451615hei, I recognize that song!
>>101451531Dip the filters into water, the ultimate mud.
>>101451633tuens for when you/feel/ somber
>>101451615she won't come to you
people often bring up UAPP for USB exclusive access player but i am trying out Hiby music player and it werks just fine for free. also has 10-band PEQ
>>101451779i will come to her
>>101450899Sennheiser Momentum 4 = Sony xm5 > Sennheiser Accentum PlusI was going to buy one of these but decided against it. Would rather get into IEMs since it's cheaper for better sound.
Bud Chads, Rise Up!
okay so CCA-CRA quality went to shit somebody said here to me after i asked for a replacement recommendation below $20 so i got those EDX PRO X and i gotta say now that.. they sound a bit worse (a bit muddier over all, different sounds playing at the same time are not as clear as CCA but all that could change a bit if i wear those drivers in a couple of weeks use)but still really good choice for $5 considering whats available locally.i am still looking for a the original quality CCA-CRA replacement if u guys can recommend me some.
I hope my Aful Performer 5 ships today. Should I look into a 3rd party cable for it or is the one that comes with it good enough? I've heard that it really shines with a good cable.
>>101454013sound-wise it does not make a differencethe one that comes with it seems to be good enough
>>101453971Sgor venus is very similar to cra. But if you listened to cra without eq it's over for you.
>>101454038Ok, and I already plan on pairing it with some Divinus Velvet eartips I have so I think I should be good then. Thanks.
So this is the power of 4DD...
>>101454095Have you not seen the power of 5DD?
wtf do people mean when they say something has a "cold" sound signature or a "warm" sound signature? i sort of understand bright as just being equivalent to shouty/high treble, so what does dark sound like?
How can I know the maximum number of decibels my iems can output? I've got a new dac that can drive them very loud compared to anything else I have and I don't want to destroy the drivers because I turned the volume too high. Also I'm severely deaf in trebles range so I need to EQ those frequencies without destroying the drivers.
>>101454230warm is related to sub-bass, cold is the opposite of thatdark means absense of treble
>>101454335what's the word for just wanting a normal amount of treble?
>>101454230Cold isn't used much but it means the bass isn't boosted relative to the mids. Warm is the opposite. Dark is very simple. Dark means the bass is boosted, mids are in the middle, and treble is down, like Aful Explorer look above 10kHz. Simgot Supermix is warm and bright leaning. Blessing 3 is cold and bright leaning. Bright means the upper mids are boosted.
>>101454356Harman. Just kidding, it's a matter of opinion. Some people do say Harman like Supermix 4, some people disagree, for "neutral" they would point to Thieaudio Monarch II for example as being neutral in the treble.I think Harman sounds the most like a flat speaker so it's neutral and below that is dark.
>>101454403
>>101454230basically referring to the note weight and thickness in the lower mids / upper bass.
Tripowin Piccolo is 11 bucks right now. Worth it?
>>101454551>Tripowinmeme. guess for that price you can't complain much
HOLY HELL. we’ve been doing it wrong the entire time bros. Double flange tips are the way to go. Jeeeeeez. Gate sounds absolutely incredible now I think it pushed the resonant peak to 10khz. It sounded great before but now? Dude.
>>101450899was he celebrating?
>>101454769The right thing is to EQ the peak.
>>101454822I don’t really need to now. Sine wave sweep confirms smooth FR.7-8khz energy has been tamed and been pushed out a little towards 9-10khz. Also I think the added benefit of this shift is the subsequent peak has been shifted even further into the air region. I wouldn’t know because I can’t really hear it(boomer memes are real). it’s still a little forward in the treble and upper mids 2-6khz but not a big deal I actually kinda like that sound as a guitar player
>>101454769which double flange tips
>>101451322Maxwell suck they need to be on to produce sound meaning that if the battery dies the whole thing dies. They're heavy and the top part tends to snap with time alone.
>>101454769>Double flangeI have never gotten a proper seal with those. Hopefully, the ones that come with my upcoming pos are thick enough to satisfy my earussy.
>>101454873standard JVC amazon ones really cheapthese. I’d post the link but system thinks it’s spam.they’re grey
>>101454551No.
>>101454279Most IEMs can be driven very very loud. There isn't any way to tell what a "max level," before electromechanical failure is. Fairly common mistake to accidentally blast them very loud, most IEMs survive. Obviously highly suggested you do not, and should not listen to high volumes. I wouldn't stress too much about a max output. You're doing more damage to yourself and your hearing than the drivers if you're talking obscenely loud levels.
>>101455205Once my apple dongle defaulted to max volume with my CRAs and I didn’t realize…needless to say after that I set a max decibel limit on my phone
>>101454230Nobody explicit said it so I will. Descriptors are all relative to a person's opinion. Unless you know your preferences align with that person, they are unreliable and fleeting. Refer to frequency response graph measurements and develop your ability to decipher them. They are more reliable than any retard on the internet spewing word salad and audiofool fluff.
>>101454769Wait until you hear Etymotics with triple flanges. Never touched my Gates again since I got my ER2SE.One question: Do you have better isolation with the doubles than with the stock tips?
>>101455374You shouldn't have any problems with dongle dac levels of volume. I do 100% with my shio sometimes.
>>101455847Bruh
>>101455753Sir, I am NOT redeeming your in ear dildos.
>>101454230I like the analogy to white light: Light is white if every frequency (every color in the visible spectrum) has the same amplitude (brightness). If the amplitude decreases the higher the frequency is, the light becomes red/yellow-ish; the light is warm. If the amplitude increases the higher the frequency is, the light appears blue, it is cold. Now apply this to the audible spectrum.
>>101455867Am I the only one? I sometimes want to listen to loud stuff.
>>101455753>>101455871Try putting the triple flange dildos on the gate and you’ll never touch the er2se again
>>101455893The nozzle is much too thick; I'm not going to try this.
>>101455892If you're using it single ended, have less sensitive IEMs, have like -10dB preamp for EQ and listen to some quiet mixes then maybe it's possible to max the volume, if not then it's over.
I just saw that there are triple-flange tips on Amazon for regular IEMs. Why should I stop at two, if I can have three?
any cable for around $10? i heard good things on tripowin, zomburs maybe?the microphonics on my kz es4 are a pain
>>101456203atta-boy. No need to upgrade your POS. Just insert deeper
>Even Amazog is roasting Aful's line-upHow will Afulchuds ever recover?
earbuds are so freaking comfy in warm weather>>101456249i dont recommend the thick high core cables they are pretty unwieldy
>>101456714the zomburs are the thinner kind, but i keep hearing the thicker braided ones are better for microphonics
>>101456249>>101457379A multi-core cable like Zonie isn't really even thick imo relative to what exists out there. It's fine and readily available from Amazon. My cheap cable recs: Faaeal Rice, Faaeal Hibiscus, TRN TN 8, Artti A12 cable. Shop Aliexpress for lowest prices
>>101457447nobody needs a 16 core cable
>>101457447I bought two zonie from Amazon for the prime salewhat am I in for?
>>101457721chemical odors
>>101457744This, the Zonie smells disgusting. Should have bought Truthear Gate for a couple bucks more, better cable and they even put a half-decent IEM inside the box to try it.
7Hz aero was too cute to pass up, redeemed :3
>>101457821I bought a few gate already figured zonie was a good backup cable.It is indeed a good iem. incredible with double flange tips
Any cable experts here? i won a 40% discount code from linsoul on any Tripowin cable, and was wondering if any of them are worth it? i already have the Karen and the Zonie cables
lads do i get the moondrop variations or just go all in and get the monarch 3
>>101458742How about stop consooming?
>>101458980Ya no i’m done. This was mostly a purchase for the church band because they’re still a bunch of plebs who use shure se215s.
>>101459002So you took from them deep-insertion sound isolating earphones and gave them Gatos that have, imo, poor isolation? Anyway, do the double flanges on them improve isolation?
>>101458811how are the microphonics/cable noise on those two? also any noticeable flaws?
Lads, I just bricked my old ass sansa clip + like a Big Dumb.Replacements market is grim. I managed to narrow my pick to two units however:>""refurbished"" clip sport go (16 GB)>agptek u5pl (64 GB)The sandisk one being a tit cheaper.What I need is: a clip, to clip the thing onto me (both have it supposedly); physical controls (both have them); ability to play mp3's (duh); cheap price (OP's $120 is way too high).Which should I get? Something else entirely?Help!
>>101458811Tripowin cables are just regular cables from OEMs with their branding slapped on, so quality will inevitably vary depending on which model you pick.Very hard to determine cable quality (here referring to handling, memory, etc), but it is possible by looking at pics, and if available, videos (there's a whole yt channel just for iem cables, pretty good)
Thoughts on Bluetooth dongles? Is the hiby w3 good enough or is the quadelix the only good option?
kinda want to buy these now
>>101459203I think so, yes. they seal better and deeper, definitely feel more bass. If foamies worked on my right ear I’d imagine it would have improved isolation too but alas.also as a point of contention the se215 have pretty mediocre isolation too they’re not deep insertion probably shallower than most chifi.rtings did an isolation test of se215 and moondrop aria which was one of the worse ones.Se215 only performed slightly better and aria was just as isolating except for +5db or so in the treble.Zero:red iirc did better than the se215.
>>101459853From Rtings' own measurements, the Shures performed better than both, especially in the bass region.Isolation for any type of IEM relies on eartips and IEM-ear coupling. Shell material, insertion depth, and IEM weight are surprisingly not directly correlated to isolation afaik.
>>101459822Why would you want twshit. If you're just looking at that bass they won't get loud enough to enjoy it. Because it's just twshit.
>>101460042they seem to get pretty loudTWS is pretty convenient, I use my my space travel a lot
sirs what you take into consideration as the needful songs to test techs of pos?
>>101460768I test with real musichttps://youtu.be/WchseC9aKTU
>>101459452Your best bet is the Sport clip Go. I wouldn't trust the random chink brand to work for very long.
>>101460768Songs? I just filter sweep on my analog synth.
>>101459822They are pretty good if you turn off all the ultra bass and nonsense eq presets.
Youtube sound demos are all you need to test an IEM.
>>101458321>redeemedwhy people here say that instead of purchased ou bought? INB4 lurk moar etc
>>101461335DO NOT REDEEM
>>101461335why are you retarded?
>>101442889>Budget~$120 CAD. Actually would be willing to spend more, around $500-$600 CAD, but since it's my first time buying an IEM I don't want to go all in at the beginning.>Intended use (media, source, environment)Games, music (all types of genres from classical music, pop, rock, metal, etc), audio books, movies and TV shows.Will be plugging it in a computer (or DAC) if that's what it means by source.Pretty loud environment since I have an air conditioner 5-6 feet away from me. So I really want good noise canceling. Maybe commuting to work while plugged in to my phone, but that would most likely once in a blue moon.>Frequency response preference (basshead, female vocal, treble sensitive, etc.)I really don't know what this means. My first time ever buying audio equipment that's not picked up at a store on an impulse. Really just want a general use one before I really dive in.>Past gear and your thoughts on themFirst IEM. Currently using Skullcandy Sesh ANC, which I absolutely hate. Battery and everything. Maybe except the comfort, it's passable enough.
>>101445778Why are you using a 41% keyboard?
>>101461476For your budget, it really depends, and you have a few solid options, none perfect.>Kefine Delci (~80CAD, or 60 on aliexpress)Small, well built, good sound. Not sure about isolation, but this one >AFUL MagicOne (~200CAD or 110 on ali)Moderate size, decent sound, and very good isolation. Might have issues with fit but we'll never know for sure.>EPZ Q1 Pro (~50CAD or 35 on ali)Again, small and comfortable, sound is fine but maybe not as bassy as you'd like. Isolation I'm not sure, but apparently quite good.>Tanchjim One (~40CAD or 25 on Ali)Bullet if you prefer that. Fit might be an issue, but overall isolation is about average. Can also get it with a USB C cable for portable use.
Is the MP145 a meme?
>>101461602Most pos are memes.
>>101461476TRN Conch w/ atmospheric filter, it has the better accessories in its price range. If you don't like the metal look then EPZ Q1 Pro
>>101461476If you want to avoid everything that is mid, and get something that's pretty good, then get the Supermix 4 for the lowest price you can find, around $130 US.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZHVib50XFQW4up3SwOZUTbI-hZB6Ir5LX6XnZblIM6o/edit?gid=0
>>101461476ignore whatever this shill retard is saying >>101461772both >>101461574 >>101461673 are solid reccs.i'll add the truthear gate as a viable and cheap option
>>101451531>>101451562
>>101461816Personally, I thought it was stupid that I bought a number of those cheap iems, since I don't use them anymore.
>>101461848cool, but that doesn't matter
>>101461574>none perfect.Do I need to throw more money to make it 'more' perfect? Or is it something that can't be fixed with only one IEM since I listen to a variety of content and need something specifically for each one?>>101461673>>101461816Thanks. I was looking at Truthear stuff since the brand kept coming up a lot. Specifically the Hexa one.I don't know. Maybe I'll get the Kefine Delci or Truthear Gate.
>>101462008Also I noticed some IEMs have mics in them, does it actually matter if I get them or not?
>>101462008>Do I need to throw more money to make it 'more' perfect? Or is it something that can't be fixed with only one IEM since I listen to a variety of content and need something specifically for each one?The answer is complicated and somewhat disappointing depending on how you want to tackle this "hobby".Perfect in your case would be something that fits all of your requirements. Unfortunately, isolation is one measurement that hasn't gotten popular, so only rough guesses can be made for how an IEM will isolate you. There are also tradeoffs that can occur between isolation and sound quality, so that adds an additional layer of complexity.If we're talking purely in terms of sound quality detached from possible psychoacoustic influences (eg fit of the IEM, build quality, price, etc) then there is 0 (and by 0, it's almost r=0 when plotted) correlation between sound performance and price. >>101462065>Also I noticed some IEMs have mics in themNot really, although mic quality is usually subpar. Most of them are also devoid of additional volume buttons, so functionality is not great.
>>101462080Alright, thanks. Torn between the Gate and Delci. The Gate is like $30 on Amazon and the Delci is $80. Amazon has a really good return policy so if I don't like it I can return it easily. But I never bought anything from AliExpress so I don't know how bad their return policy is. Delci on Amazon Canada is like $220.
K712pro chad back. >>101448870Cheers fren>>101444822>>101444999I don't think the IEMs suggested fit me, so maybe I don't know what I want. What are some fucking stellar IEMs under 200? I had crinical's zero2 and disliked it, too bassy, didn't have enough detail, didn't have enough HIs for me. I saw someone suggested the zero reds but maybe I need to open my horizons a bit. I've never had anything planar before.
>>101462145the delci is worth the extra cash tbqh
>>101462145wtf gate should be no more than $19>>101462216you want highs? supermix4 is about as clean as it gets without being grating af. never tried them but looking at the graph ya they gonna be bright and clear alright
>>101462217Maybe I'm too hung up on the looks of it which is why I'm hesitating to buy it. But it's in my ear anyways, I won't see it when I use it.One more question before I buy it, how is it compared to the Truthear Hexa? Delci says it's bassy neutral while the Hexa is just neutral. What do they mean exactly? They're the same price range.
>>101462243>wtf gate should be no more than $193rd party seller on amazon. shenzenaudio or somethingi think i have to pay shipping since I live in Canada and they ship from the US.
>>101462145Since this is your first IEM purchase, might as well use Amazon. If you really want to save more, then you can always return and buy it from ali later (they have Paypal and CC payments so it's relatively low risk)>>101462271Those descriptors are completely arbitrary and are more often time than not confusing for newcomers. Delci is more bassy than Hexa, while the Hexa is quite bass lite. Again, you can buy them from Amazon and return either or both after having tested them, that's the best method. >>101462283If the shipping time is less than a week, then it's generally stocked in NA. If it takes more than a week to ship, then they are shipping from their factory in China.
>>101445778tell me how you like them and i'll get them depending on what you say
bro lmfao are these chuds really using KZs? xD
>>101462617tyvan, thoughts?
>>101462617>>101462699愚蠢的美國人
Does seal do anything for sound quality besides add more bass?
>>101463225yeah stupid, adds isolation. which gives you better immersion, allows you to focus more on the sound, adds bass, lowers peaks.
>>101462617Its truly over MIGAxisters
>>101463225if we're talking purely about seal, then yes, it mainly affects bass and possibly more depending on leak severity.
holy shit I've just realized how stupid sharur is
>>101463407a bit late there gramps
>>101463407what took you this long?
>>101463453I didn't really care much, I just accepted that someone can be this picky and his "price to performance doesn't matter" logic made sense to me so whateverBut recently he suddenly started hating on IEMs and that's fine by itself and the reason why he's hating on them is fine too.A flaw of IEMs that everyone knows about.I doubt there is anyone here that would prefer IEMs over speakers. Speakers are better. That's obvious. The reason why we use IEMs is for privacy, portability, isolation and good price to performance ratio. That's obvious! Speakers are better than headphones! At least when it comes to faithful sound reproduction.Now the problem with sharur is that he only realized this a few weeks ago. I was sure that he always knew that and that he was using IEMs because he was simply enjoying the hobby. I was wrong. He legit thought that IEMs are a good high fidelity sound reproduction devices. What a fucking retard.
Talk me out of it bros
>>101463852holy shit that's uglyalso, why even have the brand name, are they retarded or something
Budget DACs that can output into RCA and headphones?Was thinking of getting the SMSL DS100 but it only outputs into 4.4mm or 6.35mm. I could get a 4.4mm cable with the DAC but most of them looks ugly.
>>101463852Out of it? Just go for it fren! Looks dope af.
I kneel, Tyvan...
I've been exclusively using my Tiandirenhe for 2 weeks now, I love it so much it's ridiculous.
>>101463407he claims to be a lawyer now.anyway, took your long enough.there's a reason why everyone dislikes him on here.there are really no good reviewers on YT. all of them are either shills or just retarded.
>>101465036do you know what does Tiandirenhe mean?i want to get that rainbow TFZ clone but want to know meaning before buy it
>Budget30>Intended use (media, source, environment)320kbps mp3s from a pmp >Frequency response preference (basshead, female vocal, treble sensitive, etc.)prefer bassy. high frequency hurts my ears>Past gear and your thoughts on themi like apple earpods and airpods gen 2.also, the shape of apple earpods stays in my ear better than anything else. any iem with similar shape?
>>101461602I heard it was stealth revised.
>>101465342CCA Trio
Should get my Aful Performer 5 today. Really looking forward to it. It sounds like it's going to be an all around great IEM.
>>101465372Sure, it's a decent package. Just make sure you get them at a discount.
>>101465378Oh I did. I got them for 160ish on Prime day.
>>101465394Nice, you'll most likely enjoy them. Comfy, and good sound quality overall.I'm not a huge fan of their looks, but they did look nicer in person compared to their images.
>>101454042Why are acting like cra is the most tinnitus inducing budget pos. They're more pleasant than ew200, chu2 for my ears.
>>101465372i redeemed the aful magicone, cant wait ^w^
>>101442889Looking to replace/upgrade my Blessing 2 Dusk (it broke). Looking at Thieaudio Hype 4, Oracle Mk2, 7hz Timeless, DITA Project M. Any recs?
>not getting Explorer of the Galaxies, Starchild of the Cosmosbwos...
>>101465496timeless a shitoracle mk2 a shit, one of thighaudio's worst premium iems, worse than mk1 or mk3project m fine for boutique pos, bright without much basshype4 gud
>>101465508>different font sizes and proportionsstarchild of autism
>>101463605>I doubt there is anyone here that would prefer IEMs over speakers. Speakers are better. That's obvious. The reason why we use IEMs is for privacy, portability, isolation and good price to performance ratio.It's not that simple. You need a good room for a speaker setup to sound good. IEMs will sound better than ANY speaker setup in a bad room.
Remember, my fellow transxisters folx, the best driver in IEMs was in the original CRA which is the same as in the wankers.
>>101466059Wan'er is using edx line-up driver else cra shouldn't get a driver change if they got enough to outsource to other company.
>>101461602it was massively hyped and even crowdfunded by a bunch of cucks willing to pay a chink corporation instead of letting it get the funds for itself like other corporations do in the R&D stage, the promised FR graph was the fuel for those idiots to fund the product and you know what? only a small initial bunch had that FR showing that the company was indeed able to develop that exact product, but it was very quickly revised to have another run-of-the-mill planar FR, which was a painful smack in crowdfunders' faces and outright swindle, at this point one could as well buy something like S12 Pro, Klanar or T10tl;dr yes it is a meme
another few months passed, still no good cheap basshead IEMshow come no chinks copied fatfreq yet?
>>101461317Sound demos are worse than worthless.
>>101467130Kayzed has a couple of them
>>101467130>>101468120The new ed9 pro supposed to be similar tuning to linglong.
Shut up, tyvan, bullets don't have nearly as much bass as on the graph.
>>101465496The Dita's are my favourite POS. Maybe you can try them, there's a 3k hump so it might not be for everyone.
tangzu is going down the moondrop path just because the OG wankers were kinda good
>>101442889Hello I got some cheap Chinese iems that were shilled around a few years ago but forgot about them because the cables broke quit quick.I got them some new cables recently but since I stored them in the garage they caught mold and some weird green goo(the kind you see in some electric devices). I cleaned the outside but i wanna know what should I do about the inside? Throw them in some alcoholic solution/ water and detergent and simply dry them after? Take them apart and clean the "guts"?Ty.
>>101459345Didn't get the ones with mics but for noise levels i don't notice anything when using my dac/amp with them>>101459573Thanks ill look at some reviews for them.
best bullet style iem under $100?
why is every IEM review channel a gook
>>101470856Right now er2se we’ll see how moondrop does with quarks 2.Personally I liked my tin c0 elf but I agree with the general complaints of the fit and shell shape not being great
Tea2 is on sale on Ali rn for 179 Eur
>>101471380pics of the quarks 2
>>101468699Ling Long doesn't sound like it graphs at all. At least mine doesn't, maybe it's another silent revision. >>101468120nothing really interesting, I think there's like one that looked decent I was meaning to get on sale but I already forgot what the model name was most of them are vshaped or have otherwise fucked treble
>>101471648cute little buggers.
>>101442889>Buy Wan'er SG>See on the internet that cable is uncomfortable>Can barely feel the cables above my earsWhat kind of sissy faggot ears do these people have?
>>101472774>usb cInto the trash
>>101473780Oh shit I didn’t notice. Ya if they don’t have a 3.5mm version it’s freaking OVER.
>>101473767tangled cable will curse you for the next 3 months
joyce is very smart and beautiful>tfw no audiophile gf
>>101476707too bad she's asian
suggest me an all black earphone below $200, it's for stealth reasons
>>101476935Special order from EPZ Official Store on Aliexpress. Message the seller about an all-black EPZ Q1 Pro or EPZ K5, it costs a little extra.Truthear Hexa, Letshuoer S08, Simgot EM6L, Simgot Supermix4, Shozy P20 are mostly black.
>>101476935Sony MDR-EX15LPfinal A3000Sennheiser IE200
>>101478374based didn't know you could do that
>>101479032You didn't know about fox IEM?
>>101473767I don't know why the texture of the cable irritated my ears. I haven't had this issue with any other cable.
>P1 Max II>Wu Heyday> Dudu>S08>T10>MP145What the fuck do I buy? Which of them use actually updated drivers?
>>101479125is that the EPZ Q1 Pro
>>101479237Yes.
>>101479224who cares planar is meme anyways.dudu and s08 use newest 13mm. whether it's better or not who tf knows, they are tuned differently tho.mp145 has dumbest big shell.
>>101479247how do they fit good sir
>>101470155>>101465514thanks, guess I'll get the Hype4 then
>>101479224Why does it matter if they use new drivers?
>>101479606New good. Old bad.
I'm looking for a very specific set of earbuds that can be used either via bluetooth or auxiliary depending on what I need in the moment, does anyone know of anything like this? I have a few devices that don't support Bluetooth audio and I also need very low latency sometimes but I don't want to give up Bluetooth for situations where it's supported & latency doesn't matter. But I also don't want to carry separate sets of headphones around.I've been thinking of AirPods Max but there are a couple gripes I have with them. They're huge, they're bulky, they only use Lightning and only work with one specific cable Apple could stop selling at any given moment, they only have an 8-hour battery life and can only sleep when placed in a specific case that doesn't have a built-in battery so you're going to be charging them more often, and they're $500 fucking dollars holy hell.I'm willing to put up with something a little bulkier but the rest of that is a dealbreaker and I prefer IEMs, are there any IEMs with detachable cables or something like that?
>>101480575retard-kun, please look at the OP and search for an "IEM Bluetooth adapter"
>>101480575bt adapters. several from kz, trn, moondrop, fiio, ifi, etc. you plug an earhook / neckband adapter to typical replaceable cable iem. cheaper adapters are typically noisier (background hiss).
when will a $300 variations release?
>>101480950Variations are obsolete.
>>101480950it was for $150
>>101442889is EQ'ing the sibilance out of kbear stellars possible? where should I start?been tinkering for hours but no luck, either my ears bleed or the rest of the treble goes completely to shitthere's gotta be a way to filter out those specific frequencies without messing up the rest of the sound... right?
>>101481147Sibilance is usually around 5kHz. But your entire mids and bass move by +/-10dB from fit so this may not be helpful.
>>101470966IEMs have been taken over by China and are now an element of Chinese culture
>>101481147Stupid retard why did you get the kbears>>101481082Variations for $150????
>>101481659Yes
>>101481690lmao retard these ain't variations tuned at allthey're better
>>101481659>Stupid retard why did you get the kbearswhat was I supposed to get instead>>101481180>Sibilance is usually around 5kHz.I tried every frequency, just doesn't workisn't there a way to show a spectrogram or something while playing music so you can tell where exactly the sibilance is happening or anything like that?
Reminder that looking for good graphs is the same thing as looking for something that "just sounds good". A classic noob trap.
new bread >>101482069
